What is a Red Bag Delivery and the sad loss of our Arabian colt, Pegasus
The story of the birth and death of our Arabian colt due to a Red bag delivery and bad milk from the mare.
DISCLAIMER: We are not Veterinarians or trained professionals, we only wish to share with you our experience, so when others find themselves in the same situations with their beloved horses, they will have to act more quickly, and the chances for the foal's survival heightened. *The information about Red bag delivery is sourced from websites, and all links will be shared below.
Please consult with your Veterinarians first.
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At the beginning of the foaling, we noticed that it was all red, we had never seen this before, nor had any experience with what they call a
Red Bag Delivery and this resulted in that we had to learn about it the hard way...
Know we know that reason why we saw the red bag first, was due to that a portion of the placenta had detached from the uterine wall prematurely, in this situation,
the red bag appears as a red bag hanging from the vulva, wherein normal births, this red bag will come to follow after the foal about 1-3 hours after birth.
There are 2 bags during the foaling process, the red bag called chorioallantois, and the white bag called the amnion.
The red bag is the one attached to the uterine wall and allows the exchange of nutrients and waste back and forth to the fetus through the umbilical cord.
The white bag surrounds the fetus and has many functions, including lubrication and protection.
*The information about Red bag delivery is sourced from websites, and all links will be shared below. Please consult with your Veterinarians first.
The foal should be watched carefully for signs of hypoxia (oxygen deprivation) or infection. Reasons for that a Red bag delivery is that the mare has either contracted an infection such as virus, bacterial, etc and therefore the detachment of the placenta. Please read more about it on these websites:
www.intechopen.com/chapters/5...
www.horseillustrated.com/hors...
And sadly in our case, it seemed like this was a stroke of double bad luck, the foal was already infected through his mother, where Joe later in the evening noticed that the milk coming out of Venus was brownish and see-through, meaning that the foal never received the very important first milk, called colostrum. Again, this
was something we had not seen before and thought that perhaps this was due to Venus being a young foal, and decided to let her continue feeding to stimulate her to start producing milk. At that moment the foal seemed fine, and was active and behaved normally.
The day after, Joe noticed some concerning signs, in the morning when he saw the foal, the foal had pus under his eyes, also something we had not seen before.
The foal at this moment was still active and sucking off Venus´s teats.
But Joe´s intuition told him to find out more about the milk,
Joe consulted his friend who´s also a horse farm owner and veterinarian about the milk being brownish yellowish, and his friend could confirm that this milk had no nutrients, using the term, bad milk.
And was suggested to use formulas for the foal,
or try to milk the other mare who is already feeding her foal.
So in the late afternoon of the 11th of September, we went to milk Valencia, using our daughter's milk bottle, not the ultimate bottle, but at least better than nothing.
Valencia was easy to milk, but when we were feeding Venus´s foal, we noticed that he seemed very weak, even though he drank all the milk, it seemed like at this
point it was already too late. The morning after when Joe went down the stable, he found Venus´s foal barely breathing at the same spot he had laid down the night before and was about to take his lasts breaths. It was a very sad moment for all of us, not only was this Venus´s first foal, but it was also the first chestnut colt of the stud.
We hope that sharing with you our story of the loss of little Pegasus,
and the signs of abnormal Placenta, Pus and Milk, could help others to act more quickly. We know that the next time seeing these signs is to prepare Formulas, bottles, medicine for the foal to increase some percentage of survival, though in cases with Red Bag Deliveries they often are very small chances for survival...
Sincerely Catarina and Joe
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Links about Red bag delivery:
www.intechopen.com/chapters/5...
www.horseillustrated.com/hors...
I had a red bag delivery years ago. As soon as I saw it we pulled the colt out fast. They lose oxygen supply and can get brain damage. Thankfully for us it had a happy ending. Sorry for your loss.
Thank you for sharing you experience, we are happy that your foal survived ✨🤩
Dead comes with a price that is painfully hurts. Although sometimes it also brings new life to this world too. So sorry for the loss of a gorgeous foal.
I'm so sorry for the loss of Pegasus. I owned an Arabian for over 25 yrs. He was the best horse ever and I've not been able to be around any horses since cause it broke my heart too bad losing him. I've been donating my board money I used to spend to horse rescues in his honor to help those in need. I'm slowly wanting to get back into the horse world, though. Thank you for sharing the story of your lil Pegasus, as hurtful as it was. Give momma some extra pats from this Arabian loving KY girl!
So sorry for your loss as well Amanda, horses are like family, losing them is like losing a part of you ❤️ we hope that your will get the horse you want back in your life ✨ we will give some extra pats from you, all the best ❤️
Estoy en casa de mi madre bien gracias a Dios todo salga muy bien
Esta bien que ya van dos veces al año anterior y te guarde siempre
I'm a KY girl as well. I wish I was able to have been raised and know all about horses. They are my favorite animal amd I hope to one day be able to buy at least 10 acres and get my own horses some day. That and chickens. I'm 47, raised 2 kids to Dulthood. My youngest is 10. She is on the spectrum and she gets to start horse therapy in weeks. We are both so excited that she gets to do equestrian therapy. I wish insurance paid for her to go. I scraped the money together for her to take a 10-week session ($450). I can't wait to see how it helps her! ❤ 🐎 🐴 ❤️ 😍
So sorry to see you and your mare lost a foal, prayers and hugs. 😢
I am so sorry that you lost Pegasus. 😓 He was such a beautiful foal and should of lived. It must have been such heart - breaking news to Venus. Rest In Peace Pegasus. 🕊 I hope he has a nice life in heaven, watching his mother down below. Stay strong. 🙏
Thank you for your compassion, appreciate it. Venus is pregnant again, So hopefully this time it will go well 🐴💕
@@arabianhorsefamily Thank you for replying. Your welcome :). That's lucky Venus is pregnant again. Yes, hopefully this time it goes well and she will be able to have a loving adorable foal. :) :D
im so sorry for the loss.. i hope all goes well with the next foal if she breeds again 🙏😣
Thank you, it happened again, but now we are bottle-feeding the foal. You can see in our latest videos. All the best 🐴✨
My Sincere Condolences For the loss of Pegasus 😢 I 🙏 Venus will get well. May her precious baby Pegasus RIP 💐 💐 🙏 🙏 ❤ ❤
Thank you so much Yolanda for you kind compassion 🐴🙏🏻💙 we really appreciate it. Venus is doing great and she’s pregnant again, hopefully better luck this time 💕
I’m so sorry, he was beautiful.
Thank you 🙏🏻 yes indeed ❤️
so sorry about your loss
Pegasus a beautiful name.
Thank you so much ❤️ yes indeed is a very beautiful name for a beautiful horse 🐴✨
So sorry for your loss.
My gosh, I'm so sorry. I'm crying right now. This was so sad.
Thank you for your compassion 🙏🏼🐴❤️
I’m so very sorry for your loss.
Thank you so much for your compassion Sherry ✨❤️🐴
Poor Pegasus…he is in horse heaven now galloping around in green grass and playing with other foals and mares…he is now looking down to his mom.
Thanks Tori 💙🐴
That had me in tears, the look on her face. That's so fucking sad my face is watering. It's just not fair
Yes, so unnecessary and sad to lose him 😔
Thank you for sharing this video as well as the follow-up with the 2nd red bag delivery where you bottle fed the foal. Love your honesty rather than filming for "likes. Also like the vids about passing the placenta etc. Overall, like your channel and subscribed. The only video to date that I have questions was the "retraining" an Arabian stallion. I guess I did not understand the context.
Thank you, appreciate your comment and that you find our channel honest and real. Rocky the stallion had not been ridden properly for a long time, so the right word to use would be Re-riding an Arabian stallion after a long break 🥰
@@arabianhorsefamily good to know! Will keep watching your videos to learn more!
Awwww :( ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️Little angel❤️❤️❤️
Yes 🐴✨🥺
Poor Pegasus belonged to inept horse owners who didn't know about complications of any horse pregnancies, didn't read up on the causes and effects, preventive measures, etc
Yes, it was a hard and unnecessary way to learn about Red bag deliveries.
What a moronic comment
I have never watched any of my mares give birth. I have one premature foal. I don't think he was a red bag case never found his birth sack. But he was bottle raised and after 5 days of getting his mom to take him I had to take over full care. I know there are dangers with birthing and pregnancy
@@DragonWolfAngel372 Your foal is lucky to have you taking care of him 🐴✨
I am so sorry for your loss. As you say, once you have see it once you can always recognise it. I was wondering if I could have your permission to use a short part of the video for training veterinary student in this condition. Your photography is better than mine
Of course, we are happy to be able to share with your students. All the best
Thank you
We take for granted that everything will be alright. But in the end the Mare needs as much love and attention though her horrible pain of losing her baby....
Yes you’re right, it is something we wish that Venus did not have to go through 🐴
So sad 😔 poor mama and poor baby 😔😔😔 I have never heard about red bag delivery either..
Thank you Katarina 🙏🏻❤️ yes it was a sad and unnecessary way for us to learn about red bag delivery. Luckily Venus is pregnant again, and hopefully this time it will go all well 🐴💕
Rest in peace little one
Thank you Angie 🐴🙏🏻✨❤️
ลูกม้าแพงไหมครับ
ขึ้นอยู่กับสายพันธุ์และสายเลือดค่ะ ลูกม้าArabianแท้จะอยู่ที่หลักแสนค่ะขึ้นอยู่กับสายเลือดด้วยค่ะ
Poor horse and her goal and if it’s taking long to give birth help out so the horse so the foal won’t loss air.
she's a pretty horse
Thank you, yes she is 🐴✨💕