We are up against a queen but still winning!!

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White is down in material where the opponent has a queen against our rook + knight. Still, white can win this if he plays it right.
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  • Forgot to explore the QxN scenario, where the rook can then skewer the Queen

    @davidgriffith3938@davidgriffith3938Ай бұрын
    • That is what I was about to comment.

      @daboffey@daboffeyАй бұрын
    • I was wondering about that, but realized white can pull a rook skewer. It's very similar to what happens in 3:15

      @pierrecurie@pierrecurieАй бұрын
  • No human could see the whole line in a real game

    @lukasaudir8@lukasaudir86 күн бұрын
  • Basically the queen gets checkmated

    @Infarlock@InfarlockАй бұрын
  • After kg5, you didn’t cover the most likely black move: qxb5. It doesn’t work because rc5 is a skewer I guess but still worth covering.

    @Manish3177@Manish3177Ай бұрын
    • Sorry I meant rf5.

      @Manish3177@Manish3177Ай бұрын
    • Yeah, it doesn’t work but it’s probably still the best (or the least bad) move for black, since they at least take a knight in the fall 😂

      @mncdssctn9110@mncdssctn9110Ай бұрын
  • Stockfish is funny Start position (mate in 20) Rf1 (mate in 21) Ke5 (mate in 28) Kg5 (mate in 18) Kd5 (mate in 19) Nc7+ (mate in 19) Kd4 (mate in 40, next mate in 23) Nxa6 (mate in 37, next mate in 19)

    @mythbusters866@mythbusters866Ай бұрын
  • In the end position there Stockfish says it’s best to take the knight right away in order to at least take something with you in the fall 😂

    @mncdssctn9110@mncdssctn9110Ай бұрын
  • The first move was obvious. But the follow up with the king was risky as many people would think they could fall into a perpetual check.

    @AbouTaim-Lille@AbouTaim-LilleАй бұрын
  • Whole drawerful of forks.

    @jamesmeehan8008@jamesmeehan8008Ай бұрын
  • Impressive !!! as at first sight, one can not see all those moves. I like that.

    @denisrho1019@denisrho1019Ай бұрын
  • I didn't see the entire idea behind trapping the queen, but I did see both Rf1+ and Kg5. Very beautiful

    @alliyahtruesilver7052@alliyahtruesilver7052Ай бұрын
  • Why can’t the Queen take the knight

    @johnclark5859@johnclark5859Ай бұрын
    • Rook will take queen with skewer check

      @mtzmechengr5781@mtzmechengr5781Ай бұрын
  • Thanks for your great content!

    @avshiloh2438@avshiloh2438Ай бұрын
  • Beautiful!

    @marco1908interfc@marco1908interfcАй бұрын
  • Awesome 👌

    @mmehul1@mmehul1Ай бұрын
  • Excellent... thank you very much, God bless you

    @RamKumar-gy9nb@RamKumar-gy9nbАй бұрын
  • This will (I hope) teach me to follow the analysis further! I found the rook check and Kg5, and realised Black had to move the queen, but I didn't analyse all the available moves in the way you showed (sigh).

    @ceejay0137@ceejay0137Ай бұрын
  • I do not understand why the black queen does not take the knight on b5 after white king to g5?

    @user-pq2ed6yj4s@user-pq2ed6yj4sАй бұрын
    • The rook would go to f5 and at the next step would take the queen.

      @Jamess984@Jamess984Ай бұрын
    • Yes I see now how that works, thank you.@@Jamess984

      @user-pq2ed6yj4s@user-pq2ed6yj4sАй бұрын
  • Poor Queen, dominated by the terrible Knight's forks😊

    @giovannicorno1247@giovannicorno1247Ай бұрын
  • The final position is not a zugzwang.

    @labalius8867@labalius8867Ай бұрын
  • Мне не кажется, что это цунгцванг у чёрный - они и до хода ферзем имеют проигранную позицию, своим ходом они никак её не ухудшают

    @user-gw2dc5hi5l@user-gw2dc5hi5lАй бұрын
  • I've started to watch these hoping to learn a little and I'm enjoying the vids. On this one I'm confused though. What's happening @2:50 on Black' move? There is a circle on the White Knight. Would anyone be willing to explain why and is this stopping the queen taking the knight (I'm not saying that's a good move, just clarifying what I'm seeing on screen)?

    @igavinwood@igavinwoodАй бұрын
    • The circle indicates that the queen can capture the knight. He just forgot to go over that move as a possibility (but it's a skewer: rook to F5, forcing the king to move, leaving the queen to be taken by the rook)

      @jasonsmith1950@jasonsmith1950Ай бұрын
    • @@jasonsmith1950Thank you for explaining. I appreciate you taking the time to answer.

      @igavinwood@igavinwoodАй бұрын
  • 😮 Amazing what a knight can do …

    @DonJC49@DonJC49Ай бұрын
  • 😅😅

    @AidarbekKasymov@AidarbekKasymovАй бұрын
  • Hb5-d4 . Kf5-f4 . Te1-e4 +++

    @RobertoGuidori@RobertoGuidoriАй бұрын
  • Practise forkgiveness

    @peterjuhl-yh3ne@peterjuhl-yh3neАй бұрын
  • Rf1 +. Ke5. Kg5. Qxb5. Rf5+. Kd4. Rxb5

    @paulmalone8170@paulmalone8170Ай бұрын
  • Maaagic

    @handlesucks509@handlesucks509Ай бұрын
  • Black is NOT in Zugzwang after 2.Kg5 ! Don't teach people wrong by depriving words and concepts of their meaning.

    @NikolaPredrag@NikolaPredragАй бұрын
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