Miniart and Tamiya 1/48 P-47D Model Comparison

2024 ж. 22 Мам.
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  • Tamiya's separate fin and fillet section is done for modularity: P-47D-25 has no fillet, P-47D-27/D-30 and P-47M have it, P-47N has enlarged fillet comparable to the latter ones.

    @gadeeshi@gadeeshi6 ай бұрын
    • yes, you are right. :)

      @dsv@dsv6 ай бұрын
  • I just find it interesting (for lack of a better term) how Trumpeter was criticized and lambasted for the fuselage and wings of their kits being full of rivets and now it's "modern technology"? As for panel lines, the MiniArt looks a little deeper than Tamiya. Not sure it'll be that noticeable once painted and weathered. Kind of reminds me of the Academy P-47N versus the old Pro Modeler P-47N. The Pro Modeler panel lines and rivets aren't as "refined" looking as the Academy kit but I can attest that after building both of them, they're also both very acceptable. I also think the price should be taken into consideration but lets face it, neither kit is cheap by any means. I'm just glad I already have more than enough P-47's (20+ and mostly Hasegawa actually) that I won't have to worry about buying another $50-60 USD kit. ;-)

    @jrgreiner@jrgreiner6 ай бұрын
    • I am not sure who criticized such stuff :D And also another question is the actual precision of riveting. Nevertheless, I would be for having rivets instead of applying them manually. Did this procedure with Zero model from Tamiya, and it was enough for me XD

      @dsv@dsv6 ай бұрын
    • @@dsv lol......try doing it on a 1/48 B-24J. Ask me how I know. ;-)

      @jrgreiner@jrgreiner6 ай бұрын
    • @@jrgreiner exactly xD so I would rather have them premolded

      @dsv@dsv6 ай бұрын
  • Even though, I am not interested in P-47's , Miniart's kit totally out does Tamiya's kit hands down! Thank you for the comparison.

    @Yardbird68@Yardbird686 ай бұрын
    • Thanks for watching! I think Miniart did a great job with this one :)

      @dsv@dsv6 ай бұрын
  • @8:58 The Sprue attachments on the engine wiring(?) right between those fine "spokes" I can guarantee I would break them off just by looking at them! 🤣🤣

    @pencilpauli9442@pencilpauli94426 ай бұрын
    • yeah, it might be tricky a bit :D

      @dsv@dsv6 ай бұрын
  • Le travail de MiniArt est très beau, quoique les rivets me paraissent un peu trop accentués. Mais le kit Tamiya se défend encore très bien, notamment dans la comparaisons des détail du cockpit. Il faudrait regarder plus en profondeur les autres détails (supports des réservoirs ou bombes, baies des trains, types de roues...), mais MiniArt prend clairement l'avantage sur le moteur, les baies des mitrailleuses... Reste à voir la qualité des assemblages, le kit Tamiya étant très propre à monter (pour ma part je n'ai eu de vrais difficultés pour le joint sur la partie basse arrière du fuselage).

    @sergecolin3856@sergecolin38566 ай бұрын
    • Le capot du Tamiya retrecit de 7.5 degres au lieu de 1... Et sa verriere est trop haute de 50mm a l'echelle, ce qui fausse l'angle du pare brise. Mini Art gagne sur tout les plans, sauf le choix d'helice...

      @wrathofatlantis2316@wrathofatlantis23165 ай бұрын
  • If you have compared the Miniart kit of P-47D-25 and the cockpit floor is smooth (as in the video), this is an issue, because it should be corrugated, like the Tamiya's one. The smooth cockpit floor started with P-47D-30 sub-version (continuing with P-47D-40, P-47M, P-47N).

    @giovannimusacchi2949@giovannimusacchi29494 ай бұрын
    • hmmm, maybe it was the wrong part then :/

      @dsv@dsv4 ай бұрын
  • I have the miniart kit, its really nice, the slightly rough surface is really perfect to be a good key for paint, the paint always needs micro meshing anyway. One noticable omission of the Basic kit is the two circular oil radiators found inside the cowling that are on either side of the central intake for some strange reason.

    @richw0123@richw01236 ай бұрын
    • Good to know! :)

      @dsv@dsv6 ай бұрын
    • The 2 missing circular oil radiators are included in the advanced version of three kit. 😉

      @quangske@quangske5 ай бұрын
  • Good vid. I'd expect the new kit to be better than one molded in 1996. Not seeing it for the cost. But, I'm a P-47 tramp, so I'll buy at least one. Thanks!

    @johnmoran8805@johnmoran88056 ай бұрын
    • this one will be cool to build for sure :)

      @dsv@dsv6 ай бұрын
    • Tamiya 1/48 is 2003, and the Hamilton prop is better on that kit (though the blades need thinning) as the Mini Art is too large by 5-6mm.

      @wrathofatlantis2316@wrathofatlantis23164 ай бұрын
  • One thing I noticed was the Gun Barrels of the Miniart kit look as if they are in-line with the Wing, where the Tamiya kit is correct.

    @2-Hands@2-Hands6 ай бұрын
    • I think this will be more visible on the finished model :)

      @dsv@dsv6 ай бұрын
    • They are parallel to the ground on the Mini Art, not the leading edge, as they should be. I will note the Tamiya plastic guns were a touch too fat, almost requiring metal guns. The Tamiya leading edge inserts were well done, as this looks distinct on the real aircraft: I might borrow them for my Mini Art, just for that reason...

      @wrathofatlantis2316@wrathofatlantis23166 ай бұрын
  • Some people have commented that the rivets are a bit overdone in the Miniart kit, they would not be that visible in real life. I am no expert so have no idea! However, under a coat of primer they might blend in and also under the camouflage. Still a very nice kit.

    @Mike-mm4mx@Mike-mm4mx6 ай бұрын
    • exactly! I think this is not a problem with layer of primer and paint over it :D

      @dsv@dsv6 ай бұрын
    • another important detail I have noticed, the Miniart canopy pieces also have rivet details inscribed, which is quite correct judging from photo references on the net, while the Tamiya kit doesn't appear to have any. @@dsv

      @Mike-mm4mx@Mike-mm4mx6 ай бұрын
    • @@Mike-mm4mx oh, that is a nice catch actually :)

      @dsv@dsv6 ай бұрын
  • 🤝👍

    @user-zw7gp8xb8f@user-zw7gp8xb8f6 ай бұрын
  • BELLE RÉUSSITE DE MINIART POUR UN PREMIER MODÈLE. Reste que sa découpe et la réalisation des grappes en font un modèle pour des maquettistes plus experts tandis que la découpe TAMIYA a but de permettre a de nombreux maquettiste d’accéder au P 47 D . RESTE DONC A RETROUVER CETTE BOITE DANS UNE EDITION EDUARD AVEC LES PIÈCES MINIART & LA RÉSINE ET PHOTODECOUPE EDUARD .

    @pierrepaj2367@pierrepaj23676 ай бұрын
    • I guess Eduard will release some stuff soon :)

      @dsv@dsv6 ай бұрын
  • Miniart is for masochist. Miniart models are a chore to build. Tamiya models are a pleasure to build, and when built by competent modelers will compare favorably.

    @deathpallie@deathpallieАй бұрын
    • ugh, why everyone is pushing this stereotype? :(

      @dsv@dsvАй бұрын
    • @@dsv Because it's true? Tamiya models are popular for a reason- they're reasonably priced for what you get and they're actually FUN to build. And they don't have you pulling your hair out like kits from other companies. I've made Miniart models just because they make subject matter no one else does. But if given a choice between an aggravating, over engineered kit that's a slog or something that's a joy to build I'm picking a joy to build every time. But you rivet counters need some love too, so Miniart has you covered.

      @deathpallie@deathpallieАй бұрын
    • @@deathpallie I think it is also about experience, so not like one is good and another one is bad

      @dsv@dsvАй бұрын
  • The Mini art clear parts are far more accurate than the inaccurate Tamiya parts, which were far too tall and uncorrectable (I tried)... The Tamiya fuselage is also swollen into an unfixable tear drop shape, causing the cowling to widen at the rear, in plan view, and I have despised this kit for 20 years because of this. I am sure a dip in Gunze clear will improve the Mini Art clear parts... I consider the P-47 important, and the Tamiya kit was well overdue for replacement, especially when it is by a kit of this level.

    @wrathofatlantis2316@wrathofatlantis23166 ай бұрын
    • yeah, Miniart has all the chances to become the new Thunderbolt king :)

      @dsv@dsv6 ай бұрын
    • I have the Tamiya P47D kit on my workbench and I am entirely disappointed with the fit of the major sections/parts. It also seems deficient in the parts count and over simplified for a 1:48 scale aircraft (it is an old kit now). I'll probably use it as a test bed for painting then bin it and order the Mini Art kit.

      @Territory.Beyond@Territory.Beyond6 ай бұрын
    • Just received my Mini-Art kit and have found the canopy issues were corrected..

      @alantoon5708@alantoon57086 ай бұрын
    • LMAO, the Tamiya kit is excellent!!!!! It's hard to beat and the parts fit extremely well!!!! You must have goofed up an excellent kit!!!

      @freemanreed5228@freemanreed52285 ай бұрын
    • @@freemanreed5228 It's inaccurate and the fuselage is also tear drop shaped from above (see "Wings of Pegasus" for the corrective steps). Nothing whatsoever to do with fit: It's a cartoon representation, that's all.

      @wrathofatlantis2316@wrathofatlantis23165 ай бұрын
  • The miniart surface looks rough. I’d rather have the Tamiya and rivet it myself.

    @PeteCourtier@PeteCourtier6 ай бұрын
    • rough in what sense? :D Don't forget that those features will be softened with primer and paint layers

      @dsv@dsv6 ай бұрын
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