Jonathan Ferguson, a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries, breaks down the weaponry of Team Fortress 2, including the four-barrelled Shortstop, ‘The Original’ rocket launcher, and the ridiculous ‘Panic Attack’ shotgun.
In the latest video in the Firearm Expert Reacts series, Jonathan Ferguson--a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries--breaks down the guns of Team Fortress 2 and compares them to their real-life counterparts.
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Jonathan when he sees sandvich: seems like this one is based on a sandwich, pretty accurately depicted within the game
"If you've handled a sandwich of that style of design before you know it's impossible to just throw it on the ground like that without it falling apart, but aside from that there are surprisingly few issues here"
“I think the real life equivalent to the sandvich was used by gangsters like Whitey Bulger in the 1940s.”
"Probably based on the ham and swiss model, which we actually have on the table behind me"
@@HolbrookStark also a plate appears under the sandvich
Looks like Lincolnshire cheese and oh my god they are really trying to break my mind aren’t they, like ...I can’t
"Molesting the weapon repeatedly" is how I'm gonna refer to the stickybomb launcher reloading from now on
I cackled at that remark
Molest the cocking handle
Pls dont
Y'know... Now that I think about it, reloading is basically molesting a dangerous block of well cut steel and wood. You keep shoving cylindrical semi-explosive objects into the holes of the gun.
im gonna re-name my stickybomb launcher to this quote.
11:18 “That looks an awful lot like a jar of piss.” -firearms expert
Yes it is
he wasnt wrong.
@@sollew7434 really???! thx Sherlock
@@sollew7434 no shit sherlock
@@sollew7434 you cant sense sarcasm Three question marks (???) is sarcasm in the internet
Sentry Gun: We are ALMOST there Jarate: This is unachievable technological level of modern weaponry
"The weapon to suppas metal gear"
XD
Amusingly enough, indev military tech is at least 20 years ahead of what they let us know about. You can bet your ass they have autonomous turrets already. They're just not perfected enough to use them reliably on the battlefield or they'd be using them. After all, how long did the military have the internet before it was made known?
@@angelus_solus They just didn't have the Internet before it was made known, on account of it not being invented for military purposes
@@edwardking9359Sure. Whatever lets you sleep at night.
“That looks an awful lot like a jar of piss…” The surprise bluntness of that observation xD
Kinda wanna see him watch that "Meet The Jarate" video SFM... Just to review Sniper since Jarate is indeed an weapon
Or read the comic telling him of how to do jar base karate "JARATE" -sniper
Show him the Mad Milk. He must know.
I hoping for him to go into details of this weapon used in wars. I maybe have a replica laying around somewhere.
Just wait until he has to do the "non-milk substance"
“It is reloaded by repeatedly molesting the gun until it reloads” I love this channel
8:01 to hear it.
I came down to the comment section to find someone else who noticed this
@@voltbolt2316 same
I'm going to make this my description for my stickybomb launcher
@@voltbolt2316 same lol
"...that cannot possibly function, because there's a whole load of *gun* in the way of it". Beautifully spoken.
Weapon designer should've used more gun.
@@cewla3348 haha yesss
What I like about Jonathan is that he fully appreciates that this is a video game with zero connection to reality, and doesn't feel the need to point out all the inaccuracies, but rather he just kinda finds a similar gun or something close enough, and talks about some of the differences.
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I just discovered this Channel and I completely agree with you. It's great that he can see Team Fortress 2 not as an affront to everything that is firearms. But more so as a cartoon video game that doesn't need nor want to be realistic
And then there's the guns that start to break his sanity, so he just straight passes on them to forget about them.
HP
@@irpsicologiayeducaciongrup8251Dell
I love how betrayed he seemed when he realised the Crossbow wasnt actually a crossbow
In game it's a projectile type weapon that has travel time and curve and even a model for the arrow
It has infinite syringes but its compressed air is finite, the reload animation is the medic replacing its compressed air canister.
@@badideagenerator2315 good to know. If it uses compressed air then it ain't a crossbow
@@simonwu7250 so a BB gun is a crossbow now aswell?
@@simonwu7250 Yeah we know but the actual mechanism doesn't use tension in the arms, by the sound and look it's some kind of pneumatic mechanism, so an airgun.
In all fairness, these weapons being ridiculous, poorly made, and full of parts that don't really work or do anything but exist solely to look more like guns sounds very in character for Mann Co.
Like the twin forces of nature!
They Sell Weapons And Get In Fights!™
Mann Co. has loads of money because of hats, change my mind
random crits are the lore implementation for what happens when Mann Co. guns accidentally start working.
And the characters being able to operate them regardless, is exactly in character for them. Soldier can win a fight against an army of steel robots completely naked and covered in honey, and Demoman can turn his bone marrow into alcohol. No reason why they can't make horrifying affronts to gun manufacturing work like they're the real deal.
my theory in rocket launcher recoil in tf2, soldier is insane and potentially untrained, he just swings the launcher up everyshot for little to no reason.
"In character for x" remarkably solves almost every logic problem in TF2, really makes you think if the lore is just a cover-up operation
There's a lot going on with the TF2 rocket launcher First and foremost, I don't think Johnathan has ever fired a recoilless weapon, because if he did he would stop calling them "recoilless" very quickly Secondly, Soldier stores his rockets in sequence. This means there is no backblast, which in turn means big recoil
@@TARINunit9They are recoilless by classification, not really practically. But compare the recoil of a rocket launcher and the recoil of a cannon and the difference is obvious
@@TARINunit9 so, it's more like recoil less than recoilless?
@@netnooker The way I've heard it told, there are three things the military keeps a very close eye on that don't really exist: Friendly Fire, Military Intelligence, and Recoilless Rifles
The last one- The Panic Attack- was solely made to give a firearms expert a panic attack. I think it did quite well.
Thing is, I can think of several ways to make it work. He isn't a very smart "expert"
@@vyor8837🤓
@vyor8837 or maybe the expert knows something you don't, and none of the ways you think of would actually work in practice.
“That looks an awful lot like a jar of” Please say piss “Piss” YES!
My only issue with that moment in the video is he name drops Postal 3. No, that game needs to be forgotten. Say Postal 2, it’s the actually good one. Well, “good”. As good as Postal gets.
@@witchBoi_Connor Postal 4 gang
@@jacobwingers5206 banned
@@witchBoi_Connor I don't know the game, but I think he's calling the game piss.
It's not piss, it's Jar-based Karate (i.e. piss).
"That looks an awful lot like a jar of piss." That is a jar of piss, Jon
I love how incredulous he is about it. I half expected him to just go 'Are you lot taking the piss?'
Surprisingly, it's one of the most versatile items in the game.
@@normang3668 What does it do?
@@CallanElliott the jarate is thrown onto enemies, costing them in the urine. Any damage then done whilst the enemy is soaked in piss become mini crits so more damage is done
@@Mooshake069420 It also can be used to put yourself out if you get set on fire, or if a teammate gets set on fire. And it can make cloaked spies visible.
I'd like to point out that at 7:22 he mistakes "unremarkable" as part of the stickybomb launcher's name. The "unremarkable" part is a prefix that indicates that it is a "strange" weapon. A strange weapon is a special variant of an already existing weapon that tracks the amount of kills you get with it, and the weapon's name gains a prefix that changes as you reach certain milestones in the amount of kills you get with it. "Unremarkable" is simply the prefix a weapon gains for reaching the first milestone, for ten kills.
Yeah, I think whoever got the clips should’ve shown off a normal one instead not to confuse him
facts
Would be a funny name though
there's a lot of mistakes he makes its like they knew the game and the basic's but did't bother giving him an expert in tf2 like how he talk's about demo's weapons mention something that source does with physic's objects like default pipes when firing out of the weapon
@@alexanderscout Grenade tumble is intentionally coded to have variation in the angle pipes come out so that when they roll on the ground there's variety. That has _nothing_ to do with any quirks of the Source Engine. That's just the game designers favoring gameplay over logistics.
"reloading is done by molesting the weapon" - Sun Tzu
he was wearing a steel panther shirt, they know all about molesting big cannons
And I’d say he knows a little more about guns than you do pal because he invented it
I kinda like the idea that the medic's crossbow is really just a gun that was disguised as a crossbow in order to qualify for medieval mode.
Consider medic's "gun" fires actual bolts it's prob more like an air cannon
@@destarker1340 The crossbow used to fire arrows (im aware that crossbows use bolts, but in tf2 it used the same arrow model as the snipers bow) but they changed it to shoot big syringes, which is not as cool :/
I think its a lethal version of a nurf gun shaped like a crossbow, it makes a sound like a line or spring being released when fired.
Well, according to the tf2 wiki, the publicity blurb for the crossbow does say that it is actually a syringe gun disguised as a crossbow.
@@gamesux420 I can confirm, I remember back when this was a thing, I was surprised when they changed these into syringes!
"...because TF2" is a reasonable reaction to anything related to the game.
he starts to understand
"It looks like a funko pop version" is one of the biggest insults I've ever heard.
Everyone’s talking about how the stickybomb launcher is reloaded by molesting it, but nearly as funny as that is the panic attack being reloaded by wafting underneath it
“That looks an awful lot like a jar of piss” just wait till he sees the mad milk
Mad milk is just irradiated cow's milk, people keep thinking it's c*m when it very much is not. This is even alluded to in the comics.
@@Delfite if it's milk, then how come in tf2 when you look at it's description thing it says "non-milk substance"?
@@robinzegerman its actually like a radioactive chemical or something. Idk i forgot now
At least from my views of it.
@@robinzegerman it's called irony
Show him the comicaly large spoon from payday 2. He'll get an aneurism
"this weapon seems to be modeled after a spoon"
Only a spoonful
Fool
Aneurism? Likely. Jeditobiwan's reloads? Definitely.
@@mkmasterthreesixfive * loud thud *
I'm honestly surprised that the shortstop was one of the most accurate weapons in this. I was under the impression that it was made up for the game
Funny, i knew this had to be very close. But i think i know a little gun history
I think that it was actually modeled after a real gun and then cartoonified for the tf2 feel
I'd say the jarate is the most accurate to any real world equivalents but that's just my opinion
@@cherrybee95 also its DIY
@@cherrybee95 in real life it'd deal emotional damage as extra
In addition to the fact that "The Classic" is so named because it's a visual and mechanical copy of the Team Fortress Classic sniper rifle, there's actually an explanation for why it functions "like a bolt action" despite not being one. It actually wasn't in its home game (just a very slow-firing semiauto, with the ability to switch to an alternate variant to fire full-auto) but in this game there is only one set of sniper rifle animations (bolt action ones- or rather ones pretending to be bolt action, since the sniper doesn't move the bolt *back* or actually insert ammo into his explicitly one-shot weapons) so it became bolt action sort of via neglect.
10:19 the model is even turned to show that side of the gun, and there's nadda! XD
“That looks an awful lot like a jar of piss.” -Father Ferguson, the Epitome of Eligance
Welp, guess I'm buying a description tag now
PISS
Sounds like Dark Soul boss
Piss
Finally, a great description for my jar of piss
Understandably, it was a MASSIVE headache for the Hot Dogs, Horseshoes & Hand Grenades dev when he brought the TF2 guns into the game, since they had to be radically overhauled and redesigned to make them mechanically possible.
Hot Dogs? That one Scout's hat?
Indeed and he is still working on balancing meat fortress guns too. Not a huge fan of getting them in the Take and Hold game mode tbh.
He did not like the spy revolver when porting over
@@humha7613 Hot dog's, Horseshoes, and Handgrenades is a VR game in which you can explore various themed missions and gunranges and shoot hundreds of firearms. They have a specific mission type sponsored by VALVE called "Meat Fortress" It's tf2 but in VR. You can rocket and sticky jump and everything. Pretty fun."
Someone actually successfully implemented TF2's guns in a realistic way?! A massive headache indeed. I'm impressed that anyone would actually try, much less *actually* pull it off. That is rather impressive. I don't have a VR headset, but I'd be willing to buy the game just to see that.
The grenade launcher actually used to be loaded how you would expect, but I assume due to Valve changing the clip size from 6 to 4, the additional 2 cylinders resulted in them removing the animation, although I could be incorrect as to the reason.
It used to be 6 but for balancing reasons they made it 4
@@Crasherbasher Correct
It actually had a full reload animation at launch despite only having 4 in the clip, they removed it as a part of several optimizations in order to help with all the new rendering requirements due to cosmetics
I always thought it would be cool if they put a couple bottles into the unused chamber to explain why they aren't firing
@@diddles976 The reason being was due to the amount of entities allowed by the source engine at a given time, which is 2048, this led to animations, certain small details and objects to be removed in a way to optimize the game properly for cosmetics.
I like how the “realism” of the guns in TF2 parallels the “sanity” of the characters that wield them
Sweet Jesus, with a few exceptions you’re right…
Hahahahahaha thats hilarious, i never thought of it that way
i mean we could go into comic lore but that would disrupt this new headcanon you just made so let us not
I love how that implies the Pyro is one of the most same characters on average
@@GremlinSciences Well, Pyro in the comics is a financial genius.
I'm disappointed he didn't even touch on the fact that engineer repairs the sentry by slamming his wrench on it. It'd be funny seeing his mind boggle over it
Percussive maintenance...
Tip from engineer: If you hit your kids they will be more powerful
"it's team fortress, who cares" Jonathan
@@user-oq5ev1xh8o Your children are like your sentry guns. Hit them to make them work harder.
Or the fact that all that came from a small toolbox
4:47 This actually makes a ton of sense, because TF2 was, at one point in development, going to be a futuristic sci-fi shooter with soldiers and aliens rather than two teams of mercenaries. “Invasion”, as it’s known, is also believed to be the final major concept for the game before the cartoony 1960’s retro futuristic style we got, so that being a carryover makes sense.
“We are almost there” has never sounded more terrifying
The Panic Attack: a design so baffling, it'll give you a panic attack.
Basically Ork weapon level design.
@@EungsuLee Waaaaaagh yah git
Fun fact of liberty launcher the crack on the right is as reference to the big ben bell
@@mariogodbout6178 I'm pretty sure it's a reference to the Liberty Bell which has a crack in it.
@@minejumper6662 that one has well
This should be an entire series just called "a gun experts descent into madness while breaking down TF2 guns"
Maybe next the tide turner and rescue ranger the ability to teleport buildings is going to puss him off
@@jspark8990 He needs to look at the medigun
TF2 guns break down gun experts.
"Breaking down mentaly over TF2 guns" don't you mean?
Zach from Mikeburnfire should react to Team Fortress 2 weapons.
the pretty boy’s pocket pistol was added as part of an item set called “the public enemy” so yeah it was probably based on a gangster of some kind
it actually reminded me of resident evil for some reason
FYI: The "killstreak" or "unremarkable" are not part of the name of the actual weapon, but just add other statistics to the weapons.
The More You Know
@@maotisjan I do not remember making that comment, but I vaguely remember the video
This guy’s back must hurt Iike hell. Single handedly carrying this channel.
I can't disagree, the only reason I am subscribed is because of this man
"Hey medic I like GameSpot" Some TF2 class "GameSpot more like gayspit" Medic TF2
I won't lie, it's my first time here but I really felt that way after I looked below the video.
You guys gonna copy the same comment under every video with him?
@@Sheogorath- yes
I’m still waiting for the day he looks at the Beggar’s Bazooka.
Physical recovery: six weeks. Full psychological recovery: six months.
It's the only launcher that fires all the shots loaded into it like he says! Was hoping for it since the last vid.
@@justmerc1642 Goddamn, I haven't laughed this hard in a while.
OB
OB oB
9:46 the meet the heavy video actually gives some hard stats on heavies stock minigun 150kg 10000 rpm $200 per round also he holds up what looks to be a shortened 20mm round
Yeah kinda.
Another thing is ingame it shoots 4 pellets at once,yes 4 at once,its kinda a minigun shotgun
15:08 There is a item in the game called The Wrangler, which you can use to manually control the sentry gun
"Sentry guns, are real" Engineer gaming irl
Engineer gaming
There is a sentry gun that obviously does not fire but aims at anyone that goes near it at Valve Headquarters.
@@mcg.youtube engineer gaming
@@mcg.youtube engineer gaming
@@mcg.youtube engineer gaming
Asking a Royal Armouries curator to analyze the guns of TF2 is like having a curator of the Louvre analyze the art of kindergarten classes. I love it.
Totally not a thinly vailed mild mental torture to subject him to, for the rest of us to enjoy and giggle at.... LOL
He's a gamer too lol
They got him to react to Splatoon for April Fools...
I’d watch that too
I'd honestly love to see the curator of the louvre analyze the art of kindergarteners
I love how the last gun is literally called "the panic attack" which is what you would get from looking at it for too long
I could build one pretty easily
When he said the whole"use a controller to tell the gun what to do", I'd wish he knew about the Wrangler
"The closest thing we've got to the Crusader's Crossbow is Big Joe" _TF2 community collectively chuckles_
I don't get it
Smack nuts?
@@mercenarygundam1487 One relatively well known TF2 KZheadr has an almost identical nickname.
@@mercenarygundam1487 Big Joey
more like _tf2 community collectively has war flashbacks from cursed intros and every Bearded Expense appearance_
"There's no physical way that this thing could work." Literally all TF2 players: Physics? We don't do that here.
Gravity? Who gives a crap about gravity? AKA Physics
The source engine doesn't calculate in physics
hey there's those two barrels on dustbowl that move when you shoot em indeed, the source engine is being pushed to it's very limit in this game
Yeah, physics objects in the game don't even interact with players; only weapons
Except in rocket jumping, but we only do that as an insulting parody to actual physics.
You cannot pull up on this guy, he already knows what gun you have and he’ll have always have the better gun.
The Panic Attack (shotgun at the end of video) could actually be a tube magazine with a fixed rotary drum magazine on it. It could work, loading shells into it would have to rotate the drum. And when cocked the drum would rotate and feed the tube.
Not sure how someone could manage that in such a small package but maybe! Might look like a clock on the inside afterwards lol
Fun fact: Heavy's minigun shoot 4 bullets in 1 unit of ammo, so he's carrying 800 rounds.
are you a calculator?
And he fire his weapon for 12 seconds
@@juanpablo8230 At 10,000 RPM. It costs 400,000 dollars.
@@Bancomnin some people think they can outsmart me..
@@taozi7204 maybe... **sniff** maybe...
"This Minigun is not real in any way" And that is why Heavy loves Sasha who weighs 150 kilograms and fires 200$ custom tooled cartridges at 10,000 rounds per minute.
It costs 400,000 dollars to fire this weapon, for 12 seconds
PHHHHHAAHHHAHHAHHAHAHAH, ahhahhaah *snorts*
Oh my god, who touched Sasha? Alright... WHO TOUCHED MY GUN?!
Some people they can outsmart me, maybe, *sniff, maybe... I have yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
@@RadLoki *Eager gunfire* WEEEEEEEEEEH WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! AAAAH HAHAHAHAHAHA! CRY SOME MOOOOOOORE!!! hehehe.... cry some more.
I like how the panic attack also looks like the person was *having* a panic attacck while making it, and is also likely to give firearms experts a panic attack while observing it. It's almost like an SCP.
7:00 actually he did load the pills into seperate barrels before, back in the early days of tf2.
The fact that you put an apostrophe in between the y and the s of days...
@@Character_Selection_Screen fixed it didn't realize, thanks!
@@loganstewart7105 no problemo
"This is Jonathan Ferguson, the only lad whose back is strong enough to carry this channel for the past 8 months"
Wonder if he needs medical aid for those shoulders
And strong enough to carry those guns to putting them on that table behind him
@@mercenarygundam1487 that's what the NHS is for
@@funkygreen80 NHS?
@@mercenarygundam1487 National Health Service. It's what provides healthcare in the UK. May God forever preserve it.
“That looks an awful lot like a jar of piss” your assumption is quite correct Johnny
Jarate lol
the "unremarkable" tag on the stickybomb launcher comes for it having a special effect in game. 'strange' weapons as they're called track the number of kills with that specific instance of the gun, with the prefix changing based on different thresholds.
The funny bit about the sentry gun is that theres a secondary engineer weapon called "The Wrangler" which turns the sentry into a shielded remote control gun.
"the closest thing we've got is Big Joe." And then we get no context for what on earth Big Joe was built for.
Big Joe wasn't built, he is a gift from god
It’s lovely.
Its BIG JOEY
we'll have to go to royal armouries in person and find out
@@pnutz_2 field trip!
Fun fact: The Liberty Launcher has that crack down the middle represents the Liberty Bell, hence the name
Very sad that wasnt pointed out to him. Such a detail
I wanted to tell him, that there is indeed a sword called the claymore in the game.
> hints you mean "hence?"
@@mfaizsyahmi bone apple tea moment
@@fredwilson1448 And it's not that one, that one was the eyellander
It's funny because with "The Original" the way he holds it in the first person view it would blow a hole through his stomach/chest because of the blast from the back of the rocket launcher.
The pocket gun looking so big could also be a reference to Scout being mocked for having small hands. At some point in the "Meet the Team" series that happened, so I always saw it as a reference to that
Cant get over this. When hes talking about the Heavy's minigun, in the clip he interrupts a melee fight between two snipers and the one on his team just stares daggers into him.
You would too if your melee 1v1 got thrown like that
It’s at 8:46 for anyone wondering
and with a crit no less
@@funnynin5140 not like those snipers would've crit each other anyway
And the Heavy even yells "CRY SOME MORE!" as the red sniper glares at him
Applying logic to the world of TF2 is an exercise in futility and madness.
Indubitably
and the suffering it creates is entertainment for us
Lorewise, Australia is already futuristic in the 19th century
Ikr
It never occurred to me until now that the actual crossbow parts of the Crusaders Crossbow are entirely superfluous.
Fun fact, it makes sense that Spy would have a Nagant revolver as the revolver presses the shell up to the barrel when firing, eliminating the Cylinder barrel gap, which allows you the ability to suppress the weapon
"Unremarkable" isn't actually part of the weapon name. It's a special variant of the Stickybomb Launcher which changes the weapon's title based on how many eliminations this weapon performed as a form of kill counter.
That was my first thought (based on experience with RPG-style variant weapon/equipment names), but when I asked the GS guys, they thought it was part of the name...
@@jonathanferguson1211 yeah in team fortress 2 we call them a "Strange" weapon They start as strange and as you gain kills it will slowly change names like op mentioned I'm pretty sure team fortress 2 has literally over a dozen weapon qualities Like my strange festivized specialized killstreak sticky bomb launcher Or one of my favorite items; the Unusual Horseless Headless Horseman's Headtaker Abbreviated as the Uhhhh
@@jonathanferguson1211 Well, accurate or not, your snide-AF riff on that name was one of the best parts of the video. Fiddly little things like 'truth' should be secondary concerns when you've got a verbal murder to commit.
@@pvt.hudson6088 Haha, the wife and I use that one quite a bit. Also 'you can't even DRIVE!!!'
TF2 physics are easily summarised as "it shouldn't work like that but it does".
scattergun be like "what's a magazine"
"I refuse to believe it's that easy." "I know, ja? Why do people even go to medical school?"
@@thesun5275 in the side of the scatergun really have the hole to put ammo.
MINECRAFT physics I dont even exist
@@piglin469 Well yeah, kinda.
I love how he also said the strange quality for the stickybomb launcher
Hearing that the weapon concept behind Sentry Guns is not only plausible, but on the way, is frankly terrifying. And yes, good catch on the Crossbow. It's _supposed_ to be a gun disguised as a bow to slip through the magic of Medieval Mode.
"That looks like a jar of piss" If he reviewed the Sydney sleeper oh boy...
Gaming
@@ghavienxdz3989 gaming
@@ghavienxdz3989 engineer gaming
Gaming
Or the overdose.
"Postal 3" *Running with Scissors felt the disturbance in the earth's magnetic field*
Ha. In my own opinion your cho... Brrrr! I mean in my own opinion Postal 2 is the best.
Ahhh Postal 2 was such a wild destructive yet calming dream of a game
can we just take a moment to respect that jonathan pretends postal 3 didnt happen
Ah...Postal 3...the one thing I'm comfortable saying anyone who likes it is objectively wrong
You'll get executed if you speak such words...
Imo the closest weapon that seems real to me would be the Family Business, Heavy's personal shotgun that holds 8 shots instead of 6, a personal fav of mine as more bullets to fire makes for more damage (yes im aware it has reduced power to balance it but still i love the thing to death)
Shells are the ammunition.
i'm amazed the gameplay footage showed the classic being used effectively EDIT: i take that back, they tried tapping a sentry gun with it instead of charging
Note: The Unremarkable title is for a specific type of weapon, a rare one that will change titles depending on how many kills you get with it - it can be applied to literally any gun in the game, as a random drop. The Classic is the TF2 rendering of the sniper rifle from Team Fortress Classic :)
Nope it cant be applied on every weapon like the dragons fury the postal postal pummeler maul and so on you need specific strangefieres that can only be applied on just one weapon in the game which the weapons i mentioned dont have
@@wenndannnicht7428 The point is, that the name of the gun isn't "unremarkable" but that it's a specific type of thst weapon
There is a universal strangefier but its extremely rare as far as i know @wenn dann nicht
I wouldn't call strange weapons rare
@@ayato4899 just like a universal specialized kill streak kits or unused Halloween spells
10:10 It's called the classic because it's taken straight out of Team fortress classic. It's based off of the sniper rifle the sniper had.
thank you Red Medic! very cool!
Hey Medic... STOP TYPING SHIT IN CHAT AND FUCKING HEAL YOUR TEAM PLEASE
@@gorga8618 Vell if zhey actually looked behind themselfs after I scream in pain from ze backstab that I got from zat french DUMMKOPF zhen I vould actually help!
The medic a spy
That's why it's so amusing when people get mad when it's used. It's right out of the previous game, deal with it.
Heavy: “Some people think they can outsmart me. Maybe, [sniff] maybe. I’ve yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.”
Seeing him get all mind boggled by the ridiculous guns of this game made me die of laughter.
Show him the spy reloading his revolver while holding the dead ringer
@@drawter3592 "confusing" is apparently the english word for "PAINis"
@@tekayo63 painis cupcake
@@drawter3592 okay what the fuck does painis mean
@@jacobheaton5135 "(pain is) weakness leaving the body" Similar to robotnick's "snoo(ping as) usual I see"
@@drawter3592 wrestling cupcake
The Jarate was a nice touch now we just need the Sandvich.
"Here we have a ham sandwich. In fact I too have a ham sandwich here that I made this morning before shooting this video. Tastes good but for some reason my sandwich doesn't bring me back from the brink of death for some reason."
Standard configuration, diagonally sliced, looks like ham, lettuce, cheese and tomato stacked horizontally, with a toothpick/olive optical sight mounted on top. Obviously a real sandwich can't save you from multiple gunshot wounds, but hey, it's Team Fortress.
We have the jarate now everything else (mad milk, sandvich, bonk atomic punch etc.)
Yes.
They need to show him the weapon description for the mad milk
Obviously it is not entirely realistic, but for those of you who were curious as to why the Panic Attack is supposed to work, it used to have a gimmick that had the drum mag make sense. Essentially, it used to be a kind of "Bullet Sneeze", where it would ready shots and then fire them all out one after another at rapid speed. I imagine the drum mag was put there not for storage, but for readying rounds one by one, as the Panic Attack used to be completely different as to what it is now, with a gimmick that made it quite unique from other guns.
i think the size of the pocket pistol is more because of the size of the character models' hands and fingers, they would have had to scale it up so it made sense how someone could fit a finger into the trigger area
"The Classic" is named that because it's based off of the sniper rifle from Team Fortress Classic. That game had some wild gun designs, but the in-game funcitonality was unique enough that they decided to add it into the second game again.
It would be cool if they made it to have a toggle fire to go semi auto and full auto for self defense so the sniper can run any of his secondaries that isn't an SMG but the downside is that he won't be able to do normal sniper rifle stuff and just do minicrits on headshots if he does semi auto fire and can't charge the gun. That's how it works on TFC.
@@Gencrossbones Had that idea before.
jesus i forgot that tf2 wasn’t the first one
They however changed it so it couldn’t deal critical headshot damage unless it’s fully charged (which is done by holding the mouse before firing for the classic, huntsman, and fortified compound, or automatically when scoped with any other primary weapon)
@@birds1062 Funny thing is it deals its full base damage if you hit a headshot on a partial charge.
"absolutely devastating" -shortstop enjoyers
lmao, true very fun weapon ngl
me after i shove someone off the 2fort bridge
Funnily, the cylinders of the Grenade Launcher used to spin when reloading but that was only earlier in TF2's life.
RIP to the 2 snipers at 8:50 who just wanted to have a melee fight but the heavy ended up ruining that
Jonathan saying "jar of piss" is my new favorite thing.
"That looks an awful lot like a jar of piss" Well, you aren't wrong
It is quite literally piss
It's jar based karate.
It's piss in every concieveable way except that the game has not explicitly 100% said that it's piss. That being said, it's quite clearly (or semi-opaguely given Sniper's clearly poor hydration) piss.
@@MrEvan312 in the comics it's pretty much clearly stated
"Boy! Those Saxton Hale Jarate Pills *tripled* the size of my kidneys! And thanks to my Saxton Hale Pain Tonic, I can barely even *feel* my organs shutting down! That spy won't know what hit him!" - Jarate release comic strip
12:10 pretty sure that doesn't heal anyone
I think the drum mag on the shotgun simply feeds additional rounds into the mag tube just to extend mag capacity. I can actually see that working after heavily modding a shotgun.
I love how Jon slowly goes insane, so here's some weapons that will completely break your brain: BackScatter - Scout's Primary Dragon's Fury - Pyro's Primary Loose Cannon - Demoman's Primary Rescue Ranger - Engineer Primary
And what about the Rescue Ranger?
@@limonero8757 Oh yeah, how could i forgot about a gun that requires regular shotgun slugs to fire healing bolts
Oh yeah, i forgot how ridiculous the loose cannon is
the sidney sleeper? i mean is a syringe gun that soak people in piss
Don't forget the cow mangler
3:07 Team Fortress originally started as a Mod for Quake 1's Multiplayer, in fact the mod was so popular that some people were buying quake just to play Team Fortress. Apparently there were also more servers running the TF mod than the original game.
Oh so sort of like how CS started as a mod for half life?
@@comradesam3382 To be fair, aren’t a majority of Valve games technically Half Life mods?
@@GogiRegion Mostly yeah, DOD, CS, Deathmatch, TFC [not the Quake Original]
the only question is wtf is the Quake 1 Rocket Launcher modeled after?
@@GogiRegion was going to say was there anything that was not a mode first?
I honestly think Soldier just welded the drum mag on that shotgun because he thought it would somehow make it work better
11:29 That’s because it is a jar of piss
Postal 3 never happened
alternate title: grey mann has a mental breakdown at tf2 weapons
I absolutely love how he's reaction to the Panic Attack's drum mag was like mine years ago Simply a "WHAT IN THE-"
It doesn't make sense yet its quite fun and annoying to use most of the time
The drum in the front made a lot more sense when the weapon worked like a beggers bazooka shotgun
Reminds me of the combat shotgun from Fallout 3.
I guess you can say it gave him a panic attack.
@@benwitt3320 Probably is a reference to that.
0:17 that is actually a functional firearm, you have your projectile out front (cylindrical) and out back you have a "blind" that when fired lets out imense pressure witch launches the projectile with decent force wherafter the holster is ejected out back
The assault cannon in Quake Team Fortress (precursor to the Heavy's minigun) was directly inspired by Predator, so you're probably right to assume influence from movies elsewhere, such as the shotgun being from Aliens.
I think I speak for many of us when I say you can just go ahead and keep doing these until you retire.
@@spiderham5514 preach
@@spiderham5514 preach
@@spiderham5514 preach
@@spiderham5514 preach
Totally missed the cracked "bell" on the liberty launcher
Ohh, it was a bell. I looked at this and thought "Huh. There's a crack in the wood. Nice detail!" - I guess you have to be an US-American or closely connected to get that detail.^^
@@kalamir93 yeah, you gotta know obscure US History pretty well to know the cracked bell on the liberty launcher is a nod to the cracked liberty bell in Pennsylvania (hence the name Liberty Launcher)
I would have loved his reaction to the original gameplay design of the shotgun shown at the end! Before the developers changed the design, that last shotgun worked like this: you held down the fire button which would cause your character to start loading up to 6 shells total, which would then fire all six of them rapidly one after the other once you let go of the trigger. You could never actually have any ammo inside the weapon on standby at any time. So yes, the shotgun with a gigantic drum magazine on it would always be completely empty until you were ready to fire it. It would have driven him even more insane lol!
16:01 Well, it _is_ called the Panic Attack
Next time: A marine biologist reacts to the Holy Mackerel.
Jotaro?
"That's a fish, i quess..."
Yeah as a marine biologist that's kinda accurate