Tesla Model Y - RWD or AWD, how good is it on ice?
2023 ж. 27 Қаң.
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Let's test the Model Y Performance on a icy slope!
How does it behave in different drive modes and which one is the best?
RWD, FWD of AWD? Can it beat the slope?
- Is all-wheel-drive the best choice?
- Can it climb the slope with rear wheel drive only?
- I'm using Tesla track mode to test it.
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The car is running on Nokian Hakkapelitta R5, Nordic studless friction winter tires.
On ice you should have ”studs” always. Friction wheels only perform well on snow.
Yes, but I live in Stockholm and It's very rare with ice here during winter compared to wet roads.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Waiting for delivery of a 23 MYLR, thinking of getting M3 18 wheels and mounting Hankook I Pike studded snows with a taller sidewall for our winters. As slick as that ice was glad you did not fall. Slipped on the ice and broke my Femur 3 weeks ago. It is No fun. Be safe out there. Really enjoyed the Video Very informative.
Nice with a new MYLR, it's a great car! Yes, I was lucky not to slip and fall this time! 😂
Winter tires for Stockholmers, not for people in Norrbotten
Great idea for the video. Looks 100% FWD doesn't work, or at least rear wheels are trying to engage all the time when the front don't have any traction.
Yes, that's correct so no "real" FWD. Thanks for watching! 🙏
Fwd/rwd bias only applies when the steering wheel is turned, in a straight line it is always 4wd
@@Elwon20exactly
Thank you for testing MYP on ice! Just something to add. Track mode FWD vs RWD settings apply when the car is turning, not so much when the wheel is pointing straight. It would be interesting to see if "Off Road Assist" helps on ice. Many people are using this mode in icy conditions.
Good point!
If you check the small (i) (information) on the RWD - FWD setting I think it says that it’s actually in the curves that this setting applies fully : in straight line both engines can still be used.
Great video! And as a reminder, getting to the top of the hill is only the first part of the battle - making sure you have the tires and conditions to safely descend down is an important decision before going up.
Very good point!
This is very useful, I don’t see other KZheadr do this kind of test.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
I have a about 15 degree sloop or more , I struggle to climb with my model3SR, with this unusual raining in winter made the road extremely slippery, had to use chain. But now that I ordered the MYLR and tested drove it on my hill AWD tok it’s like nothing. In Nordic country I guess awd is a good thing to have if the price difference isn’t as it was in model 3.
Yes, FWD FTW! Congratulations to your new car!
Very straightforward video - I agree!!
a very helpful video. Thanks!
Excellent comparison video!
Thank you for the video! This is really helpful.
Thank you for watching
How has the tires performed on the sometimes icy roads and hills? Looking to buy r5 but i dont know how safe they are down hills and when we have icy roads when you are in a corner for example?😄
I have been running on stufless R3 and R5 the last 6 years and I'm really happy with them. But I live in Stockholm so the winter conditions are limited and not that harsh. On clean ice studded tires will perform better though.
Thanks for this video. Maybe bying a RWD, and this was something I wanted to know more about
Glad it was helpful!
Useful video. What tyres and size ?
Hi! The car is running on Nokian Hakkapelitta R5, Nordic studless winter tires. 255/45 R19
Great video and test. I really enjoyed it. Thanks a lot. Cedric France
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video! What tyres did you have? Was it Nordic friction tyres?
Forgot to mention that. It's running on Nokian hakkapelitta R5, studless winter tires!
The reason power is sent to both axles regardless of your settings, is because you’re going in a straight line. In that scenario the car can ignore your setting. But in a turn, it’ll limit the torque spread to what you specify
Thanks I was wondering why it was doing that
excellent review very well done thank you. I live in chicago we get a lot of cold weather and snow. this is my first winter driving my Model Y
Thanks for watching. 🙏
I live in Chicago too and considering getting a Model Y. Anything you can share to help make my decision?
Nice video! Glad to discover your channel
Thanks! Glad you liked it. 🙂👍
Du skulle passat på att testa off road assist samt även slirstart. Jag själv kör alltid med off road assist (terrängassistans på svenska) när det är halt ute för att slippa bakvagnssläppet som blir när man släpper acc-pedalen och regenererar.
Yes, missade det tyvärr! O isen hann smälta innan jag var helt klar. Men helt rätt. Får jag tid och vädergudarna tillåter så uppstår fler tillfällen. 🙂
I live in Norway and my RWD Model 3 is working just as well as my model Y AWD. But here the roads are cleaned vary well.
The RWD is very sophisticated too. You probably only see the difference driving directly on snow/ice/mud.
Hi, i live norway too. What is best Dual motor vs Standard of tesla y !
@@philipnguyen0802 The 2013 model y sr with lfp batteries is vary good. Yes it is RWD but its a tesla and its safer than most cars on the road. If you want faster car go with dual motor or performance, but the smartest choice is Model y RWD with gemini wheels. Don't think about range its not US and there are a lot of super chargers not a problem at all. Just my opinion is the smartest choice is to go basic and you still have the same car for a lot less money. And LFP batteries give you same ore more usable range in every day use because You can charge it to 100% and Long range or performance it is best up to 80% and the batteries are stronger.
RWD will work just fine if you don't tow alot or often go on skiing.
Great idea and great video subscribed!
Thank you
Hello. Great video. What type of wheel du you have? Thx
Hi! The car is running on Nokian Hakkapelitta R5, Nordic studless winter tires.
Track Mode doesn't work the way you think. It's actually like AWD always, even if you set distribution to full FWD or full RWD. If this wasn't the case you would not get full power for tracking! So putting the car into FWD of RWD only affects distribution when turning, not in a straight line like you're doing here. It should also be mentioned that this car is normally RWD, only when you step on it or when the back wheels slip the front motor is also used.
Thanks! Discovered that while trying. 🙂
@@ItsOnlyElectric Yup, In FWD with stability at the lowest, I'm still seeing the rear wheels getting power. For example, at 2:39 in the video
Thanks! One important thing to note, when PARKING, on icy sloped driveways: the EPB electronic parking brake, is ONLY on the REAR wheels, even for AWD. Look for videos of Teslas, especially plugged in charging,... suddenly losing grip overnight and sliding down the drive... ! (damaging the charger and charge port at same time..)
Good point! Thank you
Can you put it into all the different modes voice activated? Or voice commands?
No.
Track mode does not durn off the 4WD. Track mode only deselects the 4WD when driving around bends.
Rwd standard model y, skulle du påstå att det är en säkerbil på en normal Svensson vinter?
Upp tom Stockholm skulle jag säga att det är lugnt. Åker du inte på skidresor superofta så lär du inte märka så stor skillnad.
Cool experiment! What tyres and rims do you use btw?
Nokian Hakkapellita R5 studless winter tires 255/45 r19
What year is your Model Y? I can see you have the indicators when your driving in reverse. Do you have USS?
June 2022 build. So it has the sensors.
😊very good idea. Thanks a lot
Thank you for watching
Just get a Tesla channel did a tyre sock video and might be interesting to add a tyre sock to the options you tested.
What rims are you using?
Ocean everblue gp6. 9,5x19 ET45 5/114,3
should there be a fresh road of ice for all tests? seems like the AWD worked best after numerous attempts?
Yes, that's a factor. Hets warnred down.
I would at least expect the front wheels slip BEFORE the rear wheels engage and spin in FWD only mode😅
How do you even change between that and see that blue and green overview of your drive line?
Sorry didn't really get your question?
Hej mice review, I have a quistion does Tesla Y have V2H support
Hej. The hardware supports it but not active as I understand it.
"RWD is fine as long as winter tires are used" is what I have been hearing/seeing.
Yes, agree!
Dostum merhaba size iki sorum olacak. Ben de Model y kullanicisiyim. Track modunu ozellistirme yapamiyorum. Modu acinca ozellestirme gelmiyor. Ikincisi seyir halindeyken yolun rengini soldaki degistirebiliyormuyuz. Tsk eder videolarinizin devamini dilerim
Merhaba! 🙂 Seninki performance değil mi? Yolun rengi değişmiyor maalesef.
Benimki LR. Sadece Performanceda mi var @@ItsOnlyElectric
cok tesekkur ederim cevabiniz icin . Ben dort cekerlerde var san mistim
@fatihkazanci9942 evet.
Is the awd mode available on the standard model y rwd? thanks
Are you referring to the track mode? Track mode is only available on the performance models.
So with the stock P Zeros you need to avoid ice completely or put chains on.
Yes!
Great video … thanks for doing it in English ❤
I do everything in English always! Everyone is invited. 🙂 Thanks for watching!
Great content!
Thank you
You can see the lack of a limited-slip differential or a TorSen..
Could you please try it with Slip Start turned on?
Next time :)
Nice. What rims are Thise?
Everblue GP6 Matte
Would different winter tyres help here?
Yes, better grip with studded tires.
@@ItsOnlyElectric I don't know much about it so excuse the dumb question. Where I am in Australia we never have the need to change from all season tyres. Thanks for the reply!
NP 🙂
Be interesting AWD at start - when ICE is the slickest. The loose dirt on pavement is being transferred
I wonder why the rear wheels spin in FWD mode??
Seems like the track mode doesn't really engage fully in conditions like this. It's made for track driving at higher speeds.
Great video.
Thanks 🙏
"only front wheels" proceeds to do awd burnout lol
Nice test
Thank you! Cheers!
I thought Tesla's could only be put in Track Mode when you're actually at a track. T or F? ty
You can activate it whenever you want. But only purpose is for the track.
@@ItsOnlyElectric oh. ok. thanks
Offroad mode?
Did not try. Brain fart from my side. 🙂 But probably even better than AWD in chill mode.
Is that minus 3 or 4 C or F?
Celsius
I can see real wheel is spinning clearly, why are you saying front wheel drive only? What am I missing?
That's what I'm setting the drive mode to. But clearly it puts power to the rear wheels anyway. So that's the conclusion, it uses all wheels anyway. This was hard to tell whilst driving. But I talk about it at the end of the video.
How on Earth are you switching from FWD only to RWD only and to AWD. I thought with the model Y all wheels are active with the dual l motors. To me it looked like the Rear wheels were powered no matter what mode you put them in. I didn't see the front wheels slipping at all. So I am not sure what your tests proved to me. I would say not much.
Yes, and thats part of the conclusion. It never deactivate the real axel fully.
to compare the y standard with the allwheel variants this test is not so helpful. because you never know if the front wheels come in or not.
how come when you are in full FWD the rear wheels are spinning? That means that RWD was engaged!
I talk about why later in the video. :)
@@ItsOnlyElectric ok. thanks a lot for that demo. really valuable to see how the car behaves depending on the driving mode! Best wishes
GREAT TEST BUT WILL TRULY WORK IF TYRE PRESSURE LESS THAN 30
Yes, that would be easier
"Only driving on the front wheel" While I'm watching that the rears are spinning :D
Haha...yes. Discovered that later when looking at the recordings.. 😂😂
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What tires?
Nokian Hakkapellita R5
@@ItsOnlyElectric hmmm, only one test to find with good ice grip results…, though pure ice is for each car a tricky and dangerous situation at too high speed… In the video it is good to see how less grip have big problems to move 2 tons up a small hill😂 Thanks for the hint, all basic settings will manage the car performance for it best!
@MrSschrotti as you say, clean ice is tricky and maybe not the most common situation.
@@ItsOnlyElectric we had today extreme clean icing with frozen rain. Sitting on a hill with 9% climbing at the the end of the road the MY had no problems to reach the cosy warm garage 👍🎯
@MrSschrotti great! 🙏
You say "only driving on the front wheels" but your rear wheels are spinning ... something doesn't add up
You are totally rigth. Taling about that at the end
It is probably a safety feature of the car to enable the other axis
@napobg6842 yes probably
Stock tesla tires are designed more for low resistance which means that they suck in snow. Real winter tires make dual motor teslas amazing in snow.
Then there is the question of whether a Tesla that only has rear-wheel drive behaves differently than a four-wheel-drive Tesla on which you have chosen rear-wheel drive
Yes, it does.
Glad I don't have to fluff around with all those silly settings. I know you are showing us the different modes, but just proves electronics are no substitute for mechanical drives. My LC 150 is full-time 4wd. If I need more traction, I simply select 4L with a knob and if I need even more traction, push 1 button to engage the mechanical lockers. Job done. It's a nice video and demonstration, but would hate a car that has all those menus to go through just to engage something.
This is the track mode and only available in the performance version. Normally you dont care the var handles all for you. No need for 4L etc.
I love Chill mode. I can just floor it and the car does the rest. I still embarrass regular performance cars too.
Yes, especially during winter
I miss standard mode, something in the middle between chill and sport. Sport mode makes me dizzy, so i dont use it, but in chill sometimes its not enough power ;)
@iManiac7 yes, I also want normal back.
What about slip mode?
Did not try.
@@ItsOnlyElectric thought the slip mode was for ice and snow, so was wondering why you never tried it on the ice, it might if made a difference to the results, perhaps next time .. thanks for the time and effort you put in to it, very informative 👍
@asdandy148 slip mode allows the wheel to spin a bit more if you are stuck. So in this case on ice when losing traction it will probably only gonna make it worse.
@@ItsOnlyElectric ok thanks for clearing that up for me. Keep up the good work and mind the bush,,
@asdandy148 no problem. 🙂
What tires on it?
Nokia hakkallipta r5 studless winter tires
I don't think you can use track mode for this test. Seems nothing like the experience I've had with Model 3 SR+/RWD. Turn off track mode and simply drive.
It's just a test to see how the track mode behaves. Normal AWD is of course the way to go. Thanks for watching
@@ItsOnlyElectric I get that, but the title say's "...RWD or AWD, how good is it on ive?", and I don't think this test represents this test. Tesla has pure RWD and AWD vehicles, and that's what I thought was going to be tested. But yesm thanks for the video non-the-less, just pointing out the "flaw" in the title, since I was looking for footage of a RWD Model Y in snow or ice ;)
sub'd !
Thanks!
-3-5 freezing cold? Come to Canada with -20-30 😂
Haha...it's not all about temperature. -20 with dry air doesn't feel as cold as -2 with high degree of moist. We get -20 - -30 here too but further north of Sweden.
it seems ridiculous that there's not a "track mode/snow-ice mode" (one that also limits regen braking) for all tesla cars, not just the MYP. We have a MYLR and we need a snow/ice mode like this. crazy.
There is a snow mode it just auto enables itself in the background based upon traction conditions and will limit regen and become more AWD bias rather than rear bias
you mixed fwd and rwd
I did? The car seems always to be AWD so even I make it FWD it puts power to the rear wheels.
Nice ice but, dude knows so little about vehicle dynamics that he doesn't feel the rear of the car step out and hear the sound of thet rear tires gripping and slipping in "Full FWD" mode? I don't have aTesla and I don't know wht the other modes will do yet but Full FWD is instantly engaging the rear wheels when the Left front slips while the RF has traction.
The track mode was releases just a week before the test, so it was the first time testing. And discovered a lot after watching the video. Try driving a car in a slope on clean ice and see if you will feel the rear wheel slip..😉 The strange thing is the dynamics of the track mode. You really don't know when it engages traction to the rear or front wheels in a case like this.
I wasn't done with the video. I see you caught on to what the car was doing later. It was cool to see and nice Ice pad.
@ondago2 thanks! 🙏
Hmm….so it’s never really a full front wheel drive only despite the selection.
Yes, that's correct. Probably due to that the car is more RWD bias since it has the bigger permanent motor in the back.
-3C its just cold 😂
Haha...yes!
One wonders why a normal person would need track mode only to make it easier to crash their car.
😂😂
For a guy who grew up on a street in San Francisco, that slope is almost nothing.
😂 there are steeper slopes In Stockholm too, but hard to freeze non private ones. 😂
So many touch for riding, not comfortable. It would be better if there was a button for traction control...
This is just used for track driving. Normally you don't need to adjust anything. The handles it for you.
Not at all FWD as rear wheel always spin
Yes 😂😂
So it doesn’t need all those gimmicks.
It's more fun than necessary. 🙂
Why would anyone drive on rear or front wheel only on an all wheel drive car. And who will ever disable stability control. Without stability control, even on a dry road, most cars will just spin around. Stability control is only turned off on racing track, where it is faster to drive around the track with precise throttle control.
Probably no one. It's just a test. 🙂
It’s heavy.
Could have been done in 2 min
Not much of a slope😂
Difficult to listen.
Neden abi? Alt yazı yapayım mı?
Why is the rear wheels spinning when FWD is enabled?
It's meant for track driving and enables the front wheels when losing grip. So not really FWD..