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TIME STAMPS:
0:00 - intro to Watertok
2:00 - "that's not water" semantics
3:46 - "just drink plain water"
4:49 - "these drinks are just gross"
5:38 - MAKING A WATER for myself...
7:07 - diet culture
9:56 - bariatric / WLS patients on Watertok
12:15 - thanks to Milanote!
13:28 - hydration obsession
14:49 - consumerism & water bottle / cup collections
17:33 - the beverage girlies
19:43 - food politics & class signifiers
20:22 - bright colors and poverty
21:54 - neutral colors and wealth
22:33 - is classism part of the Watertok hate?
25:47 - final thoughts
VIDEOS AND ARTICLES REFERENCED:
Why is Watertok So Divisive? (Annamarie Forcino) - • Why Is WaterTok So Div...
Fat Bodies and the Unsolicited Advice Weighing Us Down (Jasica Gill) - womensoundoff.com/blog/2019/7...
8 tips to drink enough water after bariatric surgery (Dr. Donald Waldrep) - drwaldrep.com/blog/8-tips-to-...
Tips for Drinking all That Water After Bariatric Surgery - totalwellnessandbariatrics.co...
Water Nausea after Bariatric Surgery - baileybariatrics.com/blog/wat...
Why "unproblematic people don't age" is a terrible message (Bryony Claire) - • Why "unproblematic peo...
Not Sorry Art (tiktok about colors in poverty) - www.tiktok.com/@not_sorry_art...
"Looking Expensive" & the class implications of how we dress | Internet Analysis
- • "Looking Expensive" & ...
Tiktok is roasting the sad beige baby parenting aesthetic - www.intheknow.com/post/sad-be...
sadbeige (tiktok) - www.tiktok.com/@sadbeige?lang=en
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could you make a video about the sad beige aesthetic?
let's hear it for food politics video!
Thank you for shouting out other creators when they have similar videos! I love Annamarie!!
i mean, water is BARELY a beverage XD
didnt mention how sweet drinks even though they dont have sugar can trigger insulin levels
i think that the “trendy water bottles” thing is wild, bc the concept of reusable bottles is so you dont generate waste, but if youre buying a whole new collection because someone decided that your old water bottle is just SO 2020, that kind of defeats the purpose. idk i will be using my hydroflask from the 8th grade for as long as possible
My hydroflask got dented because I dropped it and I had to get rid of it because it wouldn't stand up anymore 😭 Then, I rediscovered my old Yeti cup... are those far back enough in the cup-fashion cycle to be considered retro?
same, I thought we were still on the whole „emotional support water bottle thing“ tba Like at this point, I’m so attached to my hydro flask from 2019, I couldn’t imagine replacing it or alternating it with another bottle. It would low-key feel like cheating to me haha
Not to mention in de US they usually get bottled water anyway. So you’re emptying a plastic bottle into your zero waste one 😅
@@MayaTheBeeeeeeunless you drink tap🤢
@@wherethequietbeingsgo ✨I’m not from the USA, our tap water is as clean as SPA bottled water ✨
As someone who grew up broke, drinking concentrated juice tubes & has tried a variety of powders/"drops", seeing it now being labeled as a trend feels surreal.
Well I remember when shopping at thrift stores was trendy so it's getting harder to shock me 😅
Gentrification sucks so much
dude try pure kick black cherry pomegranate sometime shit SLAPS
Exactly. I buy them because I am poor and they are cheap. I don't mix them or drink insane amounts per day. It is essentially Kool Aid. You can get cold infusion herbal teas that are far healthier to put in your water if you want flavor. Even adding cucumber or lemon would be better.
@@pysq8 We had to get clothes at the Salvation Army. That was back when thrifting as they like to call it now, was dirt cheap because the people who were buying those clothes had no money. I think it's great that people want to buy old clothes instead of new, fast fashion that won't last a wash cycle. But if you have enough money to easily buy a new wardrobe without worrying financially, then please do not empty out thrift stores because lol trendy.
This feels like such a uniquely american conversation to me. Like even apart from the syrups and stuff - these massive bottles and the focus on the exact amount of water people drink is so weird to me. All my life the main messaging about hydration I‘ve gotten is „just drink when you‘re thirsty“ so the choreification of hydration is a trip 😅 (obv the surgery thing is different)
It's even weirder as an American myself 😅
It feels that way because it is that way.
Bro it’s only more weird as an American
i suppose this is connected with walkability in usa, i'm from europe and carrying around big stanley jug feels tiring when you walk
@@katarzynao.1372 as someone who got buff carrying around a 4 liter water jug around all day for a year and a half, its ridiculously tiring esp when you walk everywhere. i dont think a lot of these women would be doing this if they didnt have a car (which makes sense that its mostly southern american women)
I just wanted to say that as a diabetic the sugar free syrups or sugars etc are genuinely helpful. I can actually have something sweet without worrying about the sugar content. My personal favourite is Monk Fruit Erythritol "sugar" :)
yes! I'm not diabetic but if I'm not paying attention to what I'm consuming, I definitely tend to consume a lot of added sugar and I'm working to cut back a bit and eat a more balanced diet! I have some of those Skinny Syrups and the packaging is so full of diet culture buzzwords like "guilt free" and stuff like that and I hate it. Even for people who are wanting to balance their diet more, we aren't doing this for diet culture and negativity towards food and drink. We simply just like having options that allow us to enjoy certain things that fit into our health goals (and, to many people's surprise, those health goals don't include weight loss, feeling guilty about our consumption, being restrictive because we think nutrition is about removing, instead of adding, etc). These are the gripes I have with products like these; I can't imagine the experience of living with a health condition and being blasted with diet culture messaging when you're just trying to enjoy life!
The best is true cane
@@stephaniethesoprano Yeah it's an added level of strangeness when buying low carb or low sugar items to constantly see stuff about not feeling guilty lol! I also have thyroid disease so my weight has fluctuated so much over my lifetime! My main priority is watching my health lol! Love your video :)
@@neko_nixxy I follow a lot of those new research posts closely so i'll definitely try to keep up to date and see what's best at any given time! :D
@@neko_nixxy aspartame is the worst. It's worse than sugar. That stuff is addictive and it causes cancer. The only reason it even got approved for human consumption is because the company that made it bribed the FDA and Ronald Regan to get it approved and to avoid going to court where they were about to be charged for straight lying about it not causing cancer when it killed most of the animals it was tested on. Sucralose is also addictive and can cause sugar cravings. That's the stuff you should be avoiding, especially aspartame. Do the research on the history of that.
I like the term “wateraide” it honors the tradition of the water, while also acknowledging all the extra powders and syrups they add.
This is an awesome term for people who use hydration powder.
Meh, it makes me think of the charity, Water Aid. (Wonder what people without access to regular water would make of this?)
Ooo I like it. Might spell it like Waterade like lemonade or Gatorade because putting aide or aid makes it sound like someone needs help… I mean we all need help but that’s a different topic.
@@maddiemcnugget1076 i thought of it like the powders are helping the water 😂
@@sentienttapioca5409 yeah, for sure my first thought is Water Aide
This is just the opposite of “I don’t want chemicals in my food.”
I feel like that’s also kind of playing into the class dynamics too. I feel like most of the “all natural chemical free” people are usually more wealthy and can afford to pay extra for the “natural and organic” versions of food. The “artificial” foods tend to be less expensive and more associated with a less wealthy class.
@@jasminelambert3753 Eating natural foods dosent have to be expensive. I know it’s not as easy in the US as everything seems to have synthetic ingredients tho, my parents grew up in a small village in Iraq which was by no means wealthy but everyone in the village produced their own food in some way and sold it to others within the village. I wish the US would have more of a local community mindset, working together would be a way to achieve healthier eating much easier
@@madday9589in the us it is expensive
@@xorayne_ Ya ik it’s a problem that could be fixed with a mindset shift. If people start relying more on their local community to get their resources and people start producing what they can for themselves and those around them it would be much better
@@madday9589 A lot of people live in cities where that wouldn't really be possible
I'm a bariatric patient- 18 months out. I LOVED plain water before surgery, now I genuinely can't drink it plain. It doesn't sit well, causes nausea, and tastes metallic now. It also helps me feel more normal since I can't have carbonation and can only have one cup of coffee a day. Its a "treat" that helps me meet my liquid goal every day.
Yes! Plain Water, especially on an empty stomach, has always felt really hard on my stomach.
not bariatric but I've been this way my whole life and it sucks
If you aren’t a fan of artificial sweeteners fruit water is a great alternative. I struggle to get enough water but a splash of pineapple or cranberry juice in a glass if water really helps me to stay hydrated.
@@kurtkunkle3956 i feel this. i've always hated drinking plain water
@@elenas3571Yeah one way I stay hydrated is I make some really concentrated homemade lemonade and drink a splash of that with mostly water or carbonated water, sometimes I also slice up a knob of ginger in there too. It's really refreshing and great when I feel like having a soda-like thing even though I don't like soda anymore
In France, you can order some "grenadine" (water with grenad syrup) or a "menthe à l'eau" (water with minth syrup) in a cafe and no one will bat an eye. We often give these to kids as an "healthier" alternative to soda or juice. You can find syrups from the brand "Teisseire" in all supermarkets in different flavors. This is common among every social classes. Sure, we don't put as much sweeteners and the flavors are basic fruits but the concept of water+syrup is not weird at all for us. I can see where these ladies are coming from.
Watertok takes that to an extreme, though.
Also Italian soda is a similar thing
We have the same in the Netherlands. Water + syrup is a very common drink, but we don't call it water. We call it limonade
Same in romania, usually strawberry/raspberry syrups with sparkling water. Super classic drink especially in the countryside
What are the proportions of syrup to water?
i never realized so many people don’t like water because i go CRAZY for water. like there’s simply no better beverage than water it hits harder than anything humans have ever synthesized
For me it's kinda context dependent. On a hot day, water is the best thing in the world! On a cold day...? I'd rather have something warm, and just warm water tastes kinda off-putting.
I have that super-taster gene, so water has always tasted gross no matter the source. Plain water also makes me feel sick, so I mostly drink tea with milk, but even then I struggle to have more than a couple of cups of liquid a day.
THIS! Whenever I hear someone saying they only drink a couple glasses of water a day I’m like “HOW”, I drink my whole water cup (400ml) first thing upon waking up in the morning 😅 but I have to say, I tried flavored water when I was breastfeeding and now I very much enjoy it and suggest the brand I used to all of my struggling friends! It’s a nice change during the day 💗 whatever helps someone being their happiest, healthiest self is a yes to me!
I love plain water but it has to taste nice, my tap water has so much chlorine in it it's undrinkable. As in, it actually makes me really nauseous. Some places have delicious tap water though, no need to filter 😍
@@vacafuega so true. I travel all over Europe and the differences in quality of the water per region is staggering!
For a deeper look at how color functions as a (racialized) class marker, I highly, HIGHLY recommend Chromophobia by David Batchelor. He traces the European/Anglophone social constructions of color via art and lit history, and it's a really useful book for understanding why modern poverty is colorful and modern wealth white, gray, and beige.
Thanks for this recommendation, I’ve been trying to understand this myself and couldn’t find much beyond a few articles here and there
I just added this to my to-read list, thank you! :)
Thank you so much, im in a field where I interact with alot of rich people and I'm confusion about their taste
Reminds me of the Dolly song "Coat of Many Colors" ❤
Can you tell the reason behind those 3 colors??
Thank you for bringing up the southern aspect!! As someone from the Deep South/Appalachia I’ve struggled with the perception that I’m stupid or ditzy from my accent. I’ve traveled everywhere, and inside the US the preconceived notions about me make me feel so small sometimes. As a kid I trained myself to code switch so heavily that I can go basically undetected lol but I shouldn’t have to. I love my accent now, and hate that so many people either subconsciously or otherwise associate it with ignorance and yes!! Poverty!!! Not caring to realize that is because of the REAL issues of access to quality education and and class inequity that plague the south more than anywhere else in the US that I’ve lived. This is absolutely a factor in why people are so turned off and disgusted by these women just trying to drink their crystal lite lmao
To be fair the south does everything in its power to stay uneducated. No one should be judged for their accent though.
@@katherinedelacruz9876 that is completely ignoring the institutional aspects at play that keep the poor uneducated and in poverty. It’s not a coincidence that the reputation of stupidity and ignorance is reserved for southerners who simultaneously receive abysmally low education funds. What’s your point? I promise you that the children affected by those in power are not trying to “stay uneducated.”
YESS I'm so happy to hear that wasn't just a me thing
I feel the hiding accent thing I can't say some words without slipping tho especially with my family saying truck or y'all without an accent just feels wrong!
oh my god I feel you so much! I'm from the south of Spain and the same thing happens here with the accents and classism. People from the south are seen as less educated and cultured, our accent is mimicked as a sign of unrefinement and stupidity all the time. It is seen as incorrect Spanish - like we're using a distorted and impoverished version of the language and we simply need to learn how to speak properly. That's why most are ashamed of their accent and will say it sounds ugly and unrefined. Imagine my surprise when I started my philology degree and I learned that *all* accents are equally correct. And not in a "aw let's be nice and say everyone is valid" way, but in a "literally they're all considered proper iterations of a language's phonemic system, and there's no hierarchy they are all equal" way. And the demonization of certain accents is 100% correlated to classism in almost all cases. And that's what happened in the US too. The South could've developed any other accent, and it would've been seen with the same negative connotation. Because it has nothing to do with actual linguistics and phonetics, it's just classism and elitism and snobbishness. So yes, be proud and reclaim your accent, it's beautiful and correct and also part of your culture and it doesn't need fixing or changing !!!
I think the label "water" gets me. And that's probably just my own hostility coming out because I force myself to drink plain water every damn day. But also, if you can add all of these syrups and powders and still call it "water", at what point does it morph into diet soda?
It is diet soda with out CO2 added, that's it. And the comparison to adding a slice or two of citrus to water is the same as everything they were adding with artigicial dyes, flavorings, and artificial sweeteners is either insanely bad faith or ignorant I'd love to see how well it actually hydrates you when you start adding so much extra shit. It's like saying I got my veggies from my corn syrup
Same here. Don’t get me wrong, if someone needs to add flavorings in order to hydrate, esp for medical reasons, more power to them! But the stubborn insistence that it’s “still just water” seems almost purposefully obtuse. I do think there’s this idea that as a long as you call it “water” you’re allowed to act like it’s healthy, when that may not always be the case with some sweeteners and additives.
Just call it cordial. Cause that's what it is. And that's fine.
I’m genuinely curious about this line of thinking as someone who could care less what people drink and cares even less what people call their drinks.
I think the thing that weirds me out about it is that some seem to treat it as healthier for you than store bought drinks just because they're calling it water. It is what it is but you're still consuming whatever you put in it along with the water.
I reached for my water cup while watching and subsequently spilled it alllll on the floor. My carpet is SOOOO hypdrated, we LOVE an unproblematic queen. She is aging. Not backwards.
I love this comment
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this is so fucking funny
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This comment made so much less sense when I saw it at the beginning of the video omfg
The trend of making a drink station and spending hundreds on water accessories and collecting dozens of different flavourings reminds me of the super toxic beauty trends of the mid 2010’s when it became so normalized to have thousands of dollars of makeup in your collection. This normalization of overconsumption is directly benefitting these big brands and keeping (mostly) women in debt and constantly spending more to stay up to date on trends. I’m so glad that de-influencing is beginning to trend and I hope we can move towards a more realistic and less consumeristic enjoyment of our hobbies!
Facts
I'm afraid I can't share your optimism about de-influencing. I've never seen a popular trend which did NOT lead to overconsumption and large profits for certain brands. Especially ironic in the minimalist community, where "buy less stuff" generally led to "buy very expensive bleak-colored stuff"
How do we go about not being influenced like this in the first place? It feels like the neverending cycle of "keeping up with the Joneses". Spending money we don't have to impress people we don't care about and getting burnt out over it. I'm so glad I've rarely been influenced by society in this way and just done enough to keep myself clean and comfortable to society standards.
2010s that’s still going on lol
The “De-Influencing” I’ve seen has been “don’t buy this but buy this instead” which is absolutely no different.
This is very interesting, as a Mexican I have lived all my lived surrounded by AGUAS FRESCAS, which stand for "Fresh Waters". which means if your mom see that, for instance, strawberries are about to go bad, she would blend them and make a puree and add that to 2 gallons of plain water, add a few tablespoons of sugar, and you would have that with your lunch. And you can have any fruit flavor that is available, or you will have the more elaborated versions: Hibiscus (which is like a flower tea), or Horchata (which is rice based). These are wildly popular in Mexico, and you can also find them fresh (meaning made with fresh fruit on the same day) at Mexican ice cream shops. So to me having this watertok being a new thing I really find it odd. The surgical procedure explains a lot for the people who follow this trend. But still I've had flavored water my whole live, and I think it is just easier to blend some fresh fruit, dilute it in water and have a healthier drink with out all the chemicals.
+1
My favorite drink is watermelon aguas frescas. I also love horchata.
Hibiscus 🌺 sounds so lovely
I had bariatric surgery 9 years ago. I have to drink 96 oz water per day. I've gotten used to drinking exclusively plain water, but having flavored water is a great alternative, especially when you're craving a soda or juice or anything else that is sugary.
I feel like these drinks, being that they are a water based, feel like a modern day equivalent to depression era recipes in the sense of “things have gotten expensive so how can I have the same thing but cheaper” mentality while also having all of these 21 century ideals placed along side it. I love this video and my drag name is crystal lite so truly this video spoke to me
CRYSTAL LITE OMFG THATS SO ICONIC. GIRL. WHERE CAN I FIND YOUR WORK PLEASE??
Crystal lite is so funny i love it
This made me think of those "salads" from the 50s😂
Child me loved crystal lite so bad 😭
Omg- I LOVE your drag name. SUBSCRIBED!!! 🫶
This is such a strange phenomenon that I had no idea about, but I’ve realized that my family has been partaking in it for a while now. Long story short, we have a 7 year old that doesn’t get nearly enough hydration and we realized that the little flavor drops are a LIFESAVER. She could go a day with drinking only 8oz of liquid if we didn’t remind her. But adding some variety like water enhancers, watered down juice, and electrolyte powders have really been a game changer. 90% of the time I’m adding coconut water, liquid vitamins, or electrolytes in some other way to boost the beverage, but it really does help immensely. She calls it her “drinky drink” 🤣
Careful with that my exs neice got a kidney infection from not drinking enough plain water or really any. Theyd give her waterd down juice and stuff like this.
Synthetic vitamins are not healthy, especially for kids. At least stick w electrolytes or the coconut water.
oh no. you’ve given your child a bad habit at “best” and an eating disorder at worst. your child would be fine eating hydrating foods: raw fruits and veg, etc. keeping their sodium/processed food low and their watery foods high. but instead you’re giving them a juice addiction so they will turn out just like the freaks on watertok. you’re not hydrating your kid, you’re pumping them with dyes and additives. yikes!!
@@zoommiesbayDepending on the situation Doctors do advise some people to drink Kool Aid, Tea and other mostly water drinks to hydrate and prevent kidney infections. Some people just don't like plain water. I hate plain water and fake sugar. So Kool Aid with sugar and lemonade are what I mainly drink to stay hydrated.
@@marycanary3871A juice addiction? That child will be fine. Obviously she wasn't getting enough hydration just by eating, you have to drink fluids as well. She's not a toddler. If she's no longer dehydrated all the time they are doing what they have to for her health, especially her kidneys. Sometimes your doctor will recommend you take these measures to get enough fluid in your body.
It blew my mind when you showed the images of the expensive "classy" drink drops and powders because I immediately went "same idea, same product, but different perception" all thanks to the clean, natural aesthetic on the packaging.
“Ultimately everyone has very different bodies, health factors, needs and access and eating is extremely personal” - THAT 👏🏽 PART 👏🏽
The consumerism doesn't just come from the bottles/cups, but is also present in the purchasing of all these extra powders, tablets, and syrups. Having the right brands and flavors is just as much a symbol of belonging as the bottles are.
Maybe, but the syrups and powders are often from the Dollar Tree or Marshall's. I don't see anyone saying "buy this specific brand", just buy a lot of flavours. Consumerism but without spending a lot 😅
@H Macklemore idk man it adds up super fast. I buy syrups for coffee and the bottles add up quick lol
@@hmacklemore2226 Consumerism isn't related to cost though. It's the ever-increasing value placed on acquiring goods and services. You can over-consume at any price point
It’s amazing to watch the never ending cycle of niche internet communities being driven to collect whatever product is most prized by that community, just for the sake of collection. When I was younger, for me it was makeup and books. I bought things that in hindsight I didn’t want that much, but at the time just felt that I needed because I wanted all of the shades of a new launch, or for reasons as ridiculous as three of something fitting in an organiser better than the two I really wanted. Because the girls that I watched on KZhead had beautifully organised and curated collections that looked like a perfectly designed product display. Then when I kind of intentionally removed myself from these online communities, the need to buy, collect, hoard, basically vanished. I honestly don’t see this kind of behaviour going away. Over-consuming at any price point is exactly right. A lot of the lipsticks I bought as a teenager were only $5 or $6, but did I need 15 of them? No. Same with these powders and stuff, I would imagine people will feel the need to fill a drawer with crystal lite until they can’t see the bottom.
@@sarahmcdonough7713 I'm convinced that collecting things is just a human instinct. Probably useful for survival, but not very good when we're destroying our planet
Watertok has always been a huge sign of recession, going from charcuterie boards as a food trend to this is wild
Oh damn 😮
??? tiktok was around in 2008???
@@a.h.i267 Charcuterie board madness was literally 2019/2020 and it died during pandemic
@@a.h.i267 recession is an economic term. not just one specific time of economic downturn. believe it or not we’ve had multiple recessions
"has always been" huh
It's so interesting for me to watch your videos for cultural understanding! I'm a broke woman who grew up in a low income family in eastern Europe, and for me seeing so much additives for water, mixed with special tools in special cups on the large counters just screamed "wealthy"😅 It was a surprise to hear in the end of the video, that under classism as a point of your analysis you meant that those women are perceived poor and "cheap" instead of wealthy and arrogant😅 That's why I mostly watch foreign creators, to enlarge my perspective and cultural context understanding:D
Broke Canadian here. I don't know if that's true. They looked pretty wealthy to me with their fancy water bars, pouring of expensive branded water bottles into expensive branded cups, and boarding airplanes. The water additives themselves are a little more understandable (besides the branding) because it's a good alternative for buying expensive juice containers and may cover the taste of hard-water-which retains an odd aftertaste even after being distilled through a brita-filter. It was definitely an odd take in my opinion.
i think the classism aspect could apply to some of their accents. in the u.s., southern state accents are associated with being poor and uneducated. there is a certain kind of dislike that southern women specifically get, since everyone has a strong stereotype associated with them- stupid, bigoted, and “white trash”. think the infamous american region appalachia.
As an American who's grown up.. not poor, but not high class either, it's both. Yes, these women specifically are obviously wealthy enough to have these giant water bars. But, water flavoring is often more cheap than actual punches and sodas! I grew up on flavoring powders, because we could stretch gallons and gallons of flavored water, out of one $10 container. Whereas some flavored drinks you could barely get 3 gallons out of $10. And, as the reply right above mine mentioned, the accents come largely into play. The American South has for a long time been stereotyped as being poor.
@@StoneBasilisk that's understandable, thoough, in my area, one just doesn't drink flavoured water/soda or anything like that if one is poor. Just cheap tea bags with sugar. Soda and juices are considered quite expensive despite the quality
@@Mirrima Hey, different cultural happenings. No harm meant, just thought I'd share from the perspective of somebody who has been profiled as poor for these reasons.
I'm glad you talked about the fact that this started as a solution for a common problem bariatric patients face. It seems like people went straight to judgement and mocking, which is annoying and really sad.
It's not that I have friends that can't drink plain water and it's nothing like Watertok. It made me laugh because some of these drinks would literally be soda if they had carbonation. Just makes 0 sense 😂
The way she said, “lavender latte with oat milk. You KNOW who you are.” was personal. ☕️
As someone who grew up with lavender as a flavour (north England), and drinking cordial/squash, I'm slightly apprehensive about the day TikTok discovers Parma Violet.
I’m still going to enjoy my lavender flavored bubble milk tea.
@@anoelcollection7215 Nothing can stop us from drinking our flower water! 🌹 (there’s no lavender emoji…)
I do love a lavender lemonade 😅
i love it but i’m allergic 🥲🥲
"I'm an aspartame girlie." As a T1 diabetic since I was 10, I appreciate this statement 🤣🤣💜
I'm T1 too and yall can pry my aspartame out of my cold dead hands
I'm Mexican-American and whenever we visited the motherland, we'd either grab a Mexican Coke in the bottle or an "Agua Fresca" which is literally translated as "fresh water". It's water with real fruit juice and chunks of fruit 😁🥭🍍🍊🍉🍋🥝
Mexican-American here as well, AND I 100% AGREE WITH YOU!! HORCHATA IS MY FAVORITE!! ❤️❤️❤️
i think one thing people have to accept is that some people dont like and wont drink plain water. my mom is one of them for example, and once she discovered the little drops she could put in her water to give it a bit of flavor, she was suddenly significantly more hydrated all the time! flavored water is better than no water
My boyfriend won’t drink plain water either!
I forced myself to drink plain water and it started tasting better. But I have to consistently drink it or it tastes awful again
Honestly when I first heard of Watertock I immediately assumed it was a bunch of people talking about how much they love water and making stuff water-themed which was something I could get behind, but it was way more diet-culturey then I expected. I just hoped we created a place where we can all talk about how cool water was.
omg I would love some water appreciation!!
there is a subreddit, /hydrohomies tho I personally find the community to be a bit ~intense~ on their takes, but yknow in the way that most reddit communities are
@@abrilcrusvar4528 The hydrohomies subreddit is hilarious. I actually remember seeing a few posts on there about this exact trend
Water beds are required
I too thought that people would be talking about how different water tastes and comparing it: tap water, this brand bottled water, that brand bottled water, boiled water, iced water, room temp water, brita filter, etc......
The classism part was interesting because my first thought was that this looks really expensive
same
Legit I grew up in a 3rd world country and I just boiled my water to make it taste better I can't imagine buying all this stuff just to drink water which is legit the only cheap thing in my life 😰😰
its actually very cheap -- the powders come from the Dollar Tree and the syrups from Marshalls. Thankfully folks aren't pouring hundreds of dollars into this trend!
@@seekittycatmost flavor packets are very cheap here.
I bought these pomegranate lemonade flavor packets with a bunch of caffeine and it has 10 packets and it was like..$1.30
I really appreciated that you talked about bariatric weight loss surgery and how that played into why these ladies drink so many flavored waters, because I hadn't heard that perspective up until this point. I've seen a lot of people make fun of these ladies but not many try to understand them.
In my country any water with those "beverage drink mix" powders or syrups added is called cordial. And those Stanley cup things would just be called a travel mug or a camping mug. It seems like a lot of this trend's naming issues is driven by a lack of knowledge around existing terminology for objects and existing products, and therefore they just invent new names that also creates an illusion of "newness" and urgency to get in on the trend. Those mugs have poverty vibes to me, because of the way I'm familiar with them and because they are such common objects among lower tech activities like hunting and camping. Same with the cordial, it is popular with families who can't afford to buy fruit juice. It's just taking cheap and reusable common products and inventing new language around them to rebrand them. I have no problem with "whether this is water or not" or them enjoying these things at all, I really don't care like drink your cordial girlie, but they terminology and language and consumerism around it is absolutely unhinged to me.
My first impression of this is how reminiscent it is of ED drink hacks from back in the day 😍
Yes! And I remember back on my Tumblr days of it actually being a recommended ED hack.
I was also thinking this!
I thought everyone had forgotten. I feel like a lot of tiktok food/drink trends are old tumblr ed content
fancy 0 cal drinks frozen to make slushes was the best
YES! I was waiting for the "water based foods" hack next 🫠🫠🫠 ugh what terrible times.
When I was at the worst if my eating disorder, I would have a water flavor stick in a bottle of water as a "meal". Just to taste something without calories. It concerns me that some of these people might be making these "waters" because they're afraid to eat.
Agreed. It's a little concerning.
Yeah the whole trend screams ED enabling to me and I'm surprised that hasn't come up in the discourse really
As someone with/ and a past ED, I didn’t get that vibe from this at all. Just seems like the Starbucks trend from 2016 when people were getting elaborate drinks
I just like the taste, it helps me get my fluids in
Yep, I did the same thing
I’m just happy people are finding harmless ways to partake in self care in an accessible way , as someone who struggles to do those random seemingly indulgent things for myself , I think this is a trend for people who probably forget to take care of themselves which makes it really relatable
It also seems kind of fun and creative. The water's themselves are not that appealing to me but it does seem fun to go wild mixing up different flavors to see what you can come up with.
Seeing people just repeatedly saying "lets make a water" is just so fuckin funny to me and i can't get over it 😂😭😂
I guess my only critique of watertok personally would be the consumerism, but I feel that happens in pretty much every online community at this point so it's really not specifically a watertok problem. As gross as these drinks seem to me, I actually find it really cute and fun to see people getting so excited about their fun drinks. I get so excited for my daily coffee and I don't really see this as being much different. When will we learn our lesson about just letting people enjoy things? Your assessment of all of the critiques was spot on, I think people are just having these immediate reactions because of a perception of "trashiness" because if you think about it for more than a second you realize that random women flavoring their water and posting about it online is really not that big of a deal lol
It just makes me happy to see some of these people getting so excited about their waterbar set up and hyping each other's waterbars
My main problem is just the diet aspect. This is not filling your stomach. Its not a replacement for protein etc. its sugar water, nothing more nothing less
@@bok9596 well it seems that these people like “healthy” (couldn’t find a better word) so hopefully their diet outside of the drink would be healthy
@@bok9596 Who said anything about a protein replacement? Regular water doesn't do that.
@@bok9596 It fills your stomach, it just empties faster because it's just sugar water.
also worth noting: In the southern US, a lot of tap water is well water or comes from pipes that are old or not very well maintained. it's not like we have a lead issue down here but when taking a sip of tap water tastes like licking a street pole you'll also wanna drink literally anything else. A lot of us have to buy bottled water in order to have water that doesn't taste like metal. For a lot of people down here, storebought bottled is the only "plain" water that's good to drink. For those using flavors in their tap water, it makes total sense to do, since if you need to get X amount of water in your body in Y amount of time but drinking the water as it is, feels like a chore, because it tastes terrible, then yeah flavors are gonna be the go-to. I think it's worth criticizing "buys bottled then adds stuff to it" however again, it's worth remembering that some people lack options. Like I know Nestle is evil but if their water is the only drinkable water i can get then yes im going to throw a few dollars at nestle. Crucify me. Like who would have thunk it: Poverty fucking sucks.
Why don't you guys just boil the water?
Thank you for bringing this up! As a southern woman who also has an intense aversion to tap water because the pipes are gross everywhere I’ve lived and I’m just thankful to be drinking enough water that I’m not having migraines 3x a week anymore. Does it have a little bit of powder or a squirt of flavor in it? Sure 🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
“Most of us,” though?
@@alexandram4742 that’s a stupid suggestion. Why don’t you boil your water and then cool it down before drinking it? Because that’s horribly inconvenient for a glass of water which you need many of each day.
@@BoringTroublemaker... Just boil a bunch ? How do you think people get their water in underdeveloped countries?
The more i hear about these ladies the more i like them. It honestly looks like fun to share recipes. Im sure all the fake sugar is not great for you, but if youre trying not to drink full sugar soda its a huge improvement.
I see it a little like vaping. Better than the original habit (smoking/soda) but something you probably should avoid if you don’t smoke or drink soda. Fake sugar is addicting too.
🌟 The way she shouts out 5 other video essay channels in each video is kinda wholesome but at the same time inflates my Watch Later list by 2x 😅
Thank you for bringing up that southern people, especially with accents, get treated differently. As a southerner, accents on the whole absolutely change how people percieve you, I no longer use my southern accent outside if my family... its of course worse for black, latino and poc southerners but accents are something I see glossed over constantly,
Something really irritating is that often, people who wouldn't dare be openly racist towards bipoc are still totally fine with mocking southerners. Southerners are seen as acceptable targets, which is gross because no one should be mistreated for where they come from. (Not the same issue as racism but definitely hypocrisy.)
The stigma against southern accents make me so mad. One of my teachers called southern accents dumb, as if were not all southern people who live in a small town. Like babe… you just insulted your boss, many of your colleagues, and students.
It’s classism. They think southerners are stupid and that they’re superior, but they usually are just as biased towards the other groups you mentioned. It’s irony and hypocrisy all rolled together. Source: I’m a Mexican southerner🫠
It's so weird seeing so many people who would've mocked Southern accents in the past now adopting "y'all" these days.
This! And also other non southern accents that can often be clas indicators. My mind immediately goes to NY/Boston/RI accents wich are super distinct and noticeable and often hated on or mocked.
Halfway through BUT THANK YOU. I’m not even on TikTok/“waterTok” but as someone who’s had a gastric surgery, hydration is ABSOLUTELY a challenge for a a lot. I have to have ice cold drinks often (unless intentionally hot like tea) but room temperature water literally makes me feel crappy. I’m over 10 years since my surgery and I drink plain water a ton, but I need it cold still. It’s frustrating and I really sympathize with folks who don’t feel well just drinking plain water.
I had VSG and have nausea when drinking plain water that is room temperature! It makes me feel ill if I do more than take a few sips.
Wait I thought ice cold water was how you were supposed to drink water!?!?! It’s so much tastier that room temp water
@@weirdhousewivesclub okay im glad im not the only one that this happens to. I thought i was crazy!
OK, I'm the same. I find that room temperature water makes me sick sometimes. That's why I always like to drink ice water, and sometimes it needs to have lemon or it triggers my gag reflex.
@@canyounot4814 Cold water is how water is typically enjoyed. Ice cold is also a popular choice (though my sensitive teeth would disagree nowadays). I think a lot of people would rather not drink lukewarm water, though if you don't mind it, it can be practical, if you're carrying a water bottle around all day or have a bottle next to your bed.
I love the idea of flavoring my water just to make things interesting, but this seems more like making your water into a treat or a luxury. I don't really care, drink whatever you want, but it is kind of interesting. I wonder if there is any crossover with inflation, where something like extravagant flavored water makes people feel a little bit like they still get to enjoy *something* even though they have cut back in other areas to save money.
This ties into someone’s video recently about how hats got more creative in the 1930s versus 1920s, because during the great depression if you couldn’t afford a new outfit, maybe you can still afford a new hat instead.
as someone who gets strange reactions (shaking, nausea, dizziness, panic attacks) when i don't get enough electrolytes/"healthy sugars" in my body, i appreciate you pointing out the purity of water thing! that belief in my head was causing me more issues
I mean, I want to make a mocktail bar for me and have had (and still do sort of) tea making station. And have only gotten encouragement from people. I feel like the therapeutic element of taking the time to make your own fancy drink, a part of your day just for you, beneficial as hell and underrated
it really can be luxurious and relaxing!
so true. i dont really do mocktails but i enjoy an intricate iced coffee (ice in fun shapes, caramel or vanilla syrup, maybe some pink food coloring) from time to time when it's not too cold out. it feels nice to take that time to make a nice drink and enjoy it without a rush
This sounds fabulous!
It's strange that no matter how much I learn and comprehend why movements like "clean girl" & "wellness girl" can be problematic, I still somehow find myself aspiring to something in that direction anyway. Making the "healthy" choice, opting for something that's "clean" etc. It's so hard to unlearn the diet culture of the 90's :(
In my opinion and in fact, everyone has a different “healthy” lifestyle.
Why would that be a problem though? There's nothing inherently wrong with those ideas, just some of the communities centered around them. You can choose to be inspired by wellness culture without the unsustainable consumerism, fatphobia, classism, and other problematic aspects.
the out take shouldn't be that "being healthy is bad", not at all!!! the out take is that you can be healthy without obsessing about it, or making other people feel bad for not being healthy. being healthy is good!! it's great!! it does make you feel better, but when you turn it into a competition of who's healthier, or who's better looking, or whatever, then it turns bad. but being healthy and wanting to be healthy isn't inherently a bad thing and it should never be seen as such imo
there is a difference between diet culture and leading a healthy life. the latter one should not be seen as a negative thing. everyone is allowed to lead their life however they want but let's not pretend it's good to be unhealthy and bad to be healthy
Healthy is vegetables and portion control, not fake sugars in water.
The issue i have is whenever these trends take off and escalate to ridiculous levels of excess, it suddenly becomes unavailable to those that really need it- either from the cost increasing as companies take advantage of the hype or from just literally not being able to find it in stock. Because scalpers jump on trends as well, like when Squishmallows were being resold for hundreds of dollars.
Also the point of buying those reusable water bottles was to avoid plastic waste. And the point is that you just need one of those bottles. If we start collecting them by the dozen it completely looses its purpose. It's just overconsumption all over again.
honestly im always really sad and a silly little colorful drink just makes my day a bit better
sending you love and many colorful little drinks!!
yess. sometimes i add food coloring to whatever i'm drinking as a little treat. its just fun. i like to make my pancakes pink too
This is why I like Tiffany's video essays. Deep empathic dives into parts of culture I have no idea about. I don't know anything about what people with bariatrics surgery go through, so now I can understand why adding things to water is a thing. As someone who loves water, I'll never do something like this but am glad these people can get their hydration in when it's difficult to have plain water.
Agree with every word you said! I know we're mostly just getting our fixes of the good hormones on KZhead, but still, learning something new along the way and understanding just a bit more of the kinds of lives that other people lead - that's valuable💙 And Tiffany seems nice and cool!)
I'm an odd one in that I've never been able to comfortably drink plain water. No surgery. It irritates my throat. But add a few mio drops? I'm fine. I don't understand it, but I'd rather use the drops, drink more, and be hydrated than not drink enough becoming dehydrated. 🤷
@@lizza4250 Oh! Finally I find someone who knows! When I tell people that plain water irritates my throat I get weird looks but it just does! It makes my throat itchy! Although, through trial and error, I’ve found that I have no problems with the more mineralized water brand (like the ones that have magnesium and such) and leaving the water to rest overnight (or about 8 hours) does help too, especially if it’s cold. But that last one is really dépendant on where you live since water types and treatments are different everywhere. And I still don’t know why some water makes my throat itchy! I would say it’s because of the treatment but it has happened with different brand of bottled water so… idk. Also, what are mio drops?
@@NatLaS I think they were shown briefly in the video, but they're just water "enhancers", just flavoring really. It's just enough to change the water so my body doesn't reject it. 😅
@AthaliePlaysMinecraft oh the amount of looks I've gotten and total disbelief when I say I can't drink plain water comfortably! It's so frustrating.
It honestly reminds me of me making "potions" in the shower. Thats literally the appeal here. To be able to mix things up and make your own little thing.
Thank you for reminding us that the beverage ‘punch’ used to be a thing that seems to have been pushed out of the vernacular
i was introduced to the existence of water tok yesterday and all i have to say is the water girlies are just living their fun water life, the overconsumption is the most problematic part
i definitely understand the joy of having a special beverage. i often have water, coffee, and a tea on my desk while i work. this specific trend was a little perplexing to me though. as a diabetic im constantly thirsty so i never have to try too hard to meet a water goal and i love the taste of plain water so i never choose to flavor it myself. after learning more about the trend the only thing that still irks me is the emphasis on collecting a million stanley cups as a status symbol or how much single use plastic is being thrown away. but over consumption will be an issue with basically any tiktok trend and it's not like i don';t produce any plastic waste myself, so maybe we can all just leave the watertok ppl alone
I'd argue that the overconsumption of stanley cups and water bottles is different from watertok. The two definitely intersect, but they're not the same group.
the single use bottles are usually pretty affordable to a large range of the general population and there are literally dozens of reasons people use/ overuse them, that includes access to fresh water, convenience, maybe a tendency to lose things easily, wanting to measure and potion- just off the top of my head. people over consuming stanley cups are able to drop at least a solid $35-$40 for a cup they're going to use a handful of times before probably moving onto the next In Collectable Water Bottle (remember HydroFlasks? Starbucks Cups?).
I'm glad the bariatric patients are able to hydrate themselves! I never knew that about watertok/bariatric patients in general! I'm pregnant and usually I don't like plain water (I like soda... c: ) so I was concerned about staying hydrated until my biggest craving has turned out to be plain ice water. So lucky me? I can't do flavored water because it just reminds me of colonoscopy prep :P
as a southerner who grew up w ladies in my family only drinking diet dr pepper, honestly i'm proud of these ladies for cutting out soda and a little defensive of them. like they're my aunties and i can make fun of them for their silly water additives but it bothers me to see anyone else do it. also idk the "consumerist" part of it just seems to me like anyone else who invests in a hobby. we don't get mad at runners for having multiple pairs of trainers (and reviewing all of them on socials) or painters for having lots of paint; let people enjoy something in their lives and make it cute
As an Australian, I can certify y’all are having cordial - and at some point you can’t be calling this water.
I live in a place where mixed sodas are really popular and it’s because they replace a persons “daily coffee”, it is absolutely a sugar hit at a certain point but it’s not as excessive as it seems
Yeah, it's definately cordial, not plain water. haha.
It's like Americans just discovered cordial and are acting like it's something new.
Wait till the water tok girlies discover those make your own flavour ice block things 🤣
omg yes
I'm only about 7 minutes in but adding my thoughts - Usually they are using 40+oz of water with a packet and syrups so your versions are more concentrated. I can understand the discourse due to semantics but I personally struggle with any water intake. Since making it a fun little drink process with packets and syrups, I drink easily 40oz a day so I see progress!
I struggle with water intake as well. If I don't have gum or sum'n to flavor my water I can't drink it. Although in my case, it's due to sensory reasons. I also forget to drink water sometimes.
Same it just ugh I just use cordial tho definitely recommend as you can change the amount so you have less or more sugar with wastage so
Same, if my water is plain I struggle to get 16-20 oz, but I add a Mio to it and I can get 100 oz easy. I also get caffeine in the morning in my water because I don't like coffee.
The thing is, at that point it's not water anymore. Even if that is the base. You might as well drink diet soda, since that is exactly what you make. And those should also be used in moderation. Not 40 oz of it.
@@plumdutchess EXACTLY. Adding lemon or fruit to your water is not the same as what these people are doing. It’s important to clarify that it’s not water…because it’s not. And this bare minimum nutrition education is why people struggle to understand their health issues whether they be relevant to weight or not. If you like flavored tasty drinks…that’s fine. But it’s not water and it’s not good for you. That’s not hate. It’s the truth. Zero calories/zero sugar is not synonymous to health. And the anomalies do not refute this, because they are just that..an anomaly. Generally speaking, which is the VAST majority, plain water is optimal when it comes to actual water intake.
Tbh Tiffany, you touched this topic really well. I appreciate it! Especially how people are still unconsciously “southern hating” which has always bothered me. I’m not even southern, but stereotypes are like top 5 in terms of things I hate. Just let people enjoy things my guy. People really hate seeing other people happy.
Truthfully, I am a soda addict and Watertok has kind of helped me cut back on pop. I used to go through 3 12pks a week sometimes, and with Watertok's inspiration, I've been nursing the same 12pk for 2 weeks. So yes-- if you don't get it, it's not for you-- I guess.
For me, it’s the American sugar addiction in denial. Everything looks so insanely sweet (I mean we’re talking about having Skittles as one of the key flavors and then adding more to that). And then diet culture on top of that. Always love your videos!!
Yeah it like "zero sugar", but many sugar replacements are not better in terms of addicting effect. And many people have same body reactions to them like to real sugar (insulin)
I wanna reply and say yeah the addiction is real, i’ve worked so hard to get it down. plain water makes my stomach squeamish cuz I was REALLY sick as a child, and drink water after emptying my stomach was a constant. but HELL everything is SO sweet, I use 3/4 of a cup of sugar for a gallon of koolaid, it’s about as low as I can get it.
I just think it’s fascinating how people take the very American crazy consumerism/capitalism and make a 30 min video skewing it to be about oppression.
@@lavacaqueri5454 I agree. A lot of water-tok criticism is just bullying over semantics, but there's a real disgust for the consumerist commodification of sustainability movements by corporations/wealthy people (and from what I've seen from the backgrounds of the tiktoks, watertok definitely is a bougie movement, regardless of accent) which people just gloss over (which makes sense because a lot of the biggest critics of the movement are also pretty wealthy). The branding is the most ridiculous part for me. I guess oppression/discrimination is just an easier topic to digest.
THIS! any horrible idea and trend can be defended by reaching to classism, racism....but the truth is that these water girlies are killing themselves.
I had no idea people who have had bariatric surgery can’t drink plain water. More power to them! They’re making it work for them. Also, some people just don’t like water. I say we let people live and have fun.
In Germany its recommended to drink more water after the surgery. Where does this info come from? Water nausea is something that happens days to weeks after surgery due to the dehydration and adaption of your body. But once you’re healing, it’s not a thing anymore.
She mentioned in the video that doctors in the US tell patients they can use additives to their water to help with the water nausea. Some people she featured talked about the long term water nausea they dealt with and their inability to drink plain water. She only focused on Americans. I can’t speak to how that surgery is handled in other countries.
@@franziskaschlott3081 They're told that in the US too. Just that if they struggle with it (either because of water nausea or because it's so much plain water that they'd like something else too), flavorings like that can help.
They just shouldn't call it water, though. Since it isn't anymore after adding all that. That's like calling tea or coffee water, since that's where you start.
@@plumdutchess I feel like part of it is to make clear within that community that that's what it is replacing basically? Like you still call vegan chicken "chicken" even if it's not actually chicken at all, it's just that (unlike tea, coffee, or soda), this helps you reach your water goals after bariatric surgery? I guess "flavored water" would be better than just calling it water, but still, I definitely see a point to it.
Bariatric surgery and diet culture in general is a whole other 2 hour long video you could talk about. People are SO hateful and fatphobic on the internet under the guise of health! Your perspective is refreshing to hear, especially coming from someone who is not in a larger body! Thank you for advocating.
The discussion about what poverty actually looks like is so important. Thank you, as always.
As a non-american that got onto watertok it was kind of fascinating. We don't really differentiate American accents much beyond 'being obviously American" I also kind of had the opposite reaction to the poverty thing, These things obviously cost a ton of money, they're dressed really nicely, they look like they're enjoying their time and not in any kind of stress or rush, all things I associate with being comfortable with money - I kind of assumed it was unlabeled advertising, given how they prominently show the labels (and I've seen the "what syrup is that/where can I get those" comments with links to the skinny syrup webpage - usually planted advertising) and usually use a hashtag (but I guess this could just be a community thing?) - But yeah as someone that was actually in poverty, spending unnecessary money on something that comes out of the tap for (almost) free would be high class/excess to me. Think going to your friends house and they have name-brand products - why? The value ones taste the same (enough). My instant coffee costs 10x less than a cafe, or the satchets/pods and tastes exactly the same (enough). Didn't realise about the bariatric surgery thing, makes total sense. I acknowledge the weird classist rhetoric behind ingredients deemed 'unhealthy' or 'unnatural' or 'just buy this healthy thing instead (it costs 6x more, just buy it with your spare money, its worth using the spare money you clearly have because its clearly much better)' Especially when the cheap alternatives are almost always as healthy, or more healthy, or the same. Artificial colours/flavours being generally safer than natural unless you have an extremely rare allergy...etc.. I saw a Tiktok about a mum making dinner for a family of 8 and all the comments were horrifically mean, but all saying that it just looked bad? But the ingredients were fine. Good nutritious options, it basically was just an affordable custom cottage pie recipe. And it looked like a cottage pie. But because the ingredients were budget ingredients, and she used time-saving cooking methods, it was an 'awful terrible poor person recipe'. But like how? Is it possible that so many people who never had to eat cheap meals exist and feel they can bully some poor mother posting a video of her feeding her family?
As someone from the US you have a lot of great points. They aren't necessarily rich, but they are definitely well off with those Stanley tumblers. It can be hard depending on your income level in the US to find affordable things that are also healthy. On a budget you can definitely find ways to hit your major nutrition points and stretch your dollar, but a lot of people live in food deserts and there's really so much income inequality here, cheaper food is often less healthy.
The only thing i object is the cheaper thing being healthier. The USA has tons of preservatives and additives, specially present in cheaper food, that are illegal in most other countries because theyre toxic and unhealthy...
@@verybarebones the 'illegal in other countries' thing is super misleading. It's always dosage. There's a bunch of doctors and scientists on Tiktok who have accounts entirely dedicated to dispelling these myths. The people selling the "x is toxic/banned in other countries" are ALWAYS selling some detoxification vitamin/superfood blend/fad diet (for 10x the cost of whatever useless ingredients it has) Edit: also preservatives are fine. the most common preservatives are acidity regulators - e.g they just add acids to make the food less palatable to microbial life. Additives are fine too. Most countries have a food safety authority that relentlessly tests everything that is added into food for safety.
@@verybarebones The assumption that healthy food is cheaper/cheaper food is healthy might come from the assumption that basic food items are available and cheap enough. Like eggs, bread, flour, sugar in big bag, salt, oil, basic vegetables for the season etc., then of course more expensive but necessary for protein basic meat like chicken or turkey or pork. And then they are used to be cooked into actual meals. Since they are basic items, the assumption is that they won't have many additives, and are not so processed to be unhealthy by default (you can make them unhealthy later) (oh, except for sugar, but homemade baked goods are usually healthier and less sweet than psckaged sweets). I know those assumptions are not necessarily correct in USA - you hardly have bread available, iirc. And you have plenty of microwave or partly-made meals or foods, in wchich case I would expect cheaper = worse quality and more additives relation.
It’s hard to know who those commenters are, but something tells me when a video has 32,000 views and 400 comments, those commenters are not the most trustworthy opinions. People judging are not fair and usually just projecting their own issues when they said that a meal looks terrible or like food for poor people. Like who says that out loud to someone? A person with problems of their own, that’s who.
It's wild to me that all this is happening bc I've been drinking "Italian sodas" for years (syrup plus seltzer) like it's wild how this is all branded differently
Tbf bright colors are my main turnoff SPECIFICALLY because of how many of those dyes are banned for consumer safety in other countries. I'm with the crunchies on this one- bright colors are a reminder that corporations are commodifying our attention at the expense of our health That and it has a taste. As someone who grew up around cake dyes, just the thought of the red taste makes me want to mix toothpaste and pineapple and throw it on an anchovy pizza and wash it down with aioli, just to get the red taste out
The difference between the high and low end sugar content, I think also feeds into the food politic question "why is there so much sugar in every American food", that is already a whole thing on its own BEFORE you start talking about the race to the bottom of each company vying to make the lowest-cost lowest-quality product, banking on peoples' sugar addiction to keep them buying
@@PrincessNinja007 Not to mention the American government just ignoring the amount of people who refuse to drink water due to the awful flavor of LEAD. Our pipes have needed updating for decades now, but instead of fixing it, they just put even more chemicals in the water that made it taste even worse. I can't blame the watertok girlies for hating water. But I do blame them for solving that problem by feeding into corporations that wanna sell them carcinogens in cute packaging instead of just getting a water filter.
This is honestly... really interesting. I rely now on outside sources to tell me about what's going on on tiktok since I can't handle having it on my phone. It's also a discussion I've had with my husband a few times. He grew up lower middle class while I grew up upper middle class, and one thing we noticed was different was that I always had juice that came as a liquid from the store; the only time we bought other mixes was for hot chocolate or frozen lemonades in the summer. He insisted that frozen juice was just as good and cheaper and I was getting ripped off since that's what he drank growing up. On a totally different note, those high-sugar powdered beverages are valued very highly in the niche world of outdoor sports, particularly things like backpacking and mountain expeditions. Two nights ago I was weighing out tang powder and packaging it into bags with calorie labels for my husband's expedition to Denali, where he has to bring enough food for 4-5 weeks. Tang was a good one because it has vitamin C (so no scurvy) and is pure sugar, which is just converted into carbon dioxide and exhaled by the body so it doesn't turn into waste... which you have to carry off the mountain (and is also a source of energy when you are burning massive amounts of calories daily). Fascinating stuff!
I grew up poor and I love flavored water. My partner and I discussed how classist the complaints seem to feel. I feel so validated seeing someone else discussing this too.
Same! My family couldn't afford things like juice growing up, and this is all we had to make well water taste less like...well water
Isn’t flavoured water just lemonade? In Dutch we would call the stuff they make oh watertok lemonade. Which in Dutch has nothing to do with lemons.
@@TsukiNoInu93We wouldn’t call it lemonade as that’s a specific drink over here in the US. Water with lemon juice isn’t considered lemonade, but my grandpa would squeeze a lemon slice and sugar into a glass of water and call it a “poor man’s lemonade.”
I had no idea the criticism was going to be considered classist. Reading your comment toward the end of this video, it makes sense. But I was a single-parent-household transplant to the southern U.S., treated horribly by the wealthy southern women. So that accent + the expensive bottle collections + the giant flavor hauls = financially comfortable at the very least. But that's my bias. Though, I must admit I barely knew this existed until watching this vid. I don't think there's anything wrong with this trend. But I do think there's some healthy criticism for the people hoarding packets they'll probably throw away after getting bored. Or because they bought so much they expired. Overall though, I love water, but have huge aversions to other things. I get how sometimes you have to make adjustments to get your nutrients in. I know this was kind of all over the place. I appreciated your comment for making me think about this from a new angle. And I wanted to put my thoughts out there. Thank you
@@toastyfoxs in the netherlands we call all sugery drinks even 0kcal water drinks lemonade. When its frizzy its pop/soda, juice is only used for fruit drinks that are not frizzy and contain actual fruit, otherwise they become pop or lemonade again, hope that helps with my understanding. ^^
It was briefly touched on in the video but I think I’ll always be fascinated by the water thermoses themselves, especially Hydroflasks. I go to a college that has a majority upper class student body and Hydros have effectively become a status symbol. I’ll get weird looks sometimes as one of the few people in my classes to not be drinking out of a thermos, and I’ll often see photos people take of just their Hydro against a background as an “aesthetic.” If it’s an aesthetic that’s encouraging people to stay hydrated, then that’s great, but the effect that a Hydro in front of a sunset vs. just a clear hard plastic water bottle (like yours in the video) in front of a sunset is somehow *vastly* different in terms of “aspiration”? It’s so specific and so strange, but it’s also ultimately harmless so I’ve never known quite how to feel about it
When I was in college at a bougie private university Nalgene bottles were the hot thing that everyone took to class with water and to frat parties with alcohol. I got a Nalgene for cheap on clearance to fit in. It’s so interesting to see the exact same phenomenon repeat itself with younger people.
@@rikkicrowder7134it was also Nalgenes (with stickers) back in my day. The true hipsters drank from Mason jars, and this was before the became pinterest wedding bait.
When I was is high school about 5 years ago my classmates started to shame me for using plastic water bottles once. I refill it multiple times until it starts to stink. Handwashing a reusable water bottle is a commitment I don't have energy for. And those same girlies that criticized me had been buying salads or soups in plastic containers that aren't reusable every day for lunch. Like bruh, I'm probably using less plastic than you. I didn't say that out loud for some reason.
i’m surprised it’s hydroflasks and not stanley’s 😆 at my school it’s stanley cups
It's weird, I've never seen hydros as anything other than a good reusable water bottle. I take mine everywhere and I use it all day, everyday. Even if I'm at home, I use my hydro. So mine is clearly used, dented, marked up etc. It's funny how you say it's "aesthetic" (it's just a water bottle people) because my friend will only use it for work because she doesn't want it to "get ugly". On top of that, when she posts aesthetic looking date night photos, she includes her hydro lmao. I thought it was random but now that you mention people think it's a look, it makes more sense.
I love love love how you mentioned Not Sorry Art’s take on poverty and color. I did a project on analyzing her work last year for an illustration course and adore whenever she gets attention for her beautiful paintings x
Maybe interesting to note for those “just drink plain water” people, in the distant past / olden days when workers in the fields would drink cold well water or w/e it would actually make them sick as the cold water hit their stomachs and they’d get cramps. They added things like vinegar and honey to the water to make “switchel” and it would hydrate without the side effects
I feel like adding powdered sugars and sweeteners isn’t the same as vinegar and honey
@@BabyGirlTiny isnt honey sugar tho???
@@BabyGirlTiny honey is sugar, it's the same thing.
@@notebeans3134 honey (a natural sugar) is NOT the same thing as the processed Skittle crack powder people are dumping on everything.
@@BabyGirlTiny Who's adding powdered sugar? In the video they're all sugar-free flavourings
Just wanted to say one of my fondest childhood memories is eating crushed ice out of a plastic cup while watching Kim possible every day after school because it’s the only “snack” my best friend’s mom would allow.
😧 oh my god
Doesn't eating regular ice hurt your teeth?? 😭😭 I'm not sure about crushed ice but are you good?
Why do we have the same childhood memory
Omgsh this seems like it needs to be a whole other conversation 😵💫😳
@@seraphim108 I love eating ice (history of anemia), but I’d never chomp down on regular sized ice cubes lol. Maybe it’s also my history of dental issues and tooth sensitivity, but it’s mostly just sucking on pieces of ice for me.
Also the color perception not just with the drinks but with the cups. Every time I see those like pink, teal, unicorn gradient Stanley or Hydroflask bottles/cups I think in my head that they look "cheap" or "tacky", while the neutral colors are preferable because they're not loud and they're classy/classic. While part of that may be due to color preference, I prefer earth tones and natural colors for everything, I didn't even realize that maybe deep down part of that is because our perception of those colors might be associated with cheap goods and even poverty or being poor because of how color is perceived in society nowadays. I also think a lot of those colors and designs were also copied as dupes by other companies and saturated the market. Back when rainbow everything and unicorn and pastel was super trendy and cute, but now we see it as tacky because the trends cycle so quickly, also due to over-consumerism.
I think there's an element of sexism as well. Pastel is 'girly'. Also, pastel colours / unicorns etc. are associated with being a young girl so there's probably an element of wanting to look 'mature'. And then there's the element of social-conscientiousness, wanting to not draw attention to yourself by using neutral inoffensive colours, or conversely a lack of personal identity so you pick the colour that goes with everything so you don't have to make a decision. Having said this I actually love teal 'cause my eyes are blue so maybe I'm over-thinking it haha.
As someone who's never had Tiktok, I'm always amazed at the new levels of absurdity it reaches. There's a "watertok" now? And it's political? This isn't at all a critique on you Tiffany, I love your channel - I'm just endlessly in awe at how people online nowadays manage to find the most random, niche, insignificant things to latch onto and be problematic about. Edit: I know everything is inherently political and I’m completely okay with people being enthusiastic and engaging with things that aren’t harmful - my comment simply means to denounce how people manage to show their ignorance and socio-political illiteracy through the most trivial of matters (something which has obviously always been a thing on social media - trust me, I know, I had Tumblr -, but not to the gargantuan extent found on Tiktok). Had to specify this because some people apparently need to have everything exhaustively explained to them or else they will misconstrue your words at the first chance they get to try reaching some sort of moral high-ground lol
I feel the same!!! TikTok is so weird?
I’m so with you. Dint have tick-tock but an glad she fills me in with the new crazy obsessions.
same! I'm always wondering what people will come up with next
As someone who has TikTok, I never have these things on my fyp. There's an algorithm. You get on your fyp what you previously liked repeatedly or watched repeatedly. Therefore, my fyp is funny cats, international news, cooking videos, travel vlogs.
BreathingTok or ExistingTok next, or dunno what. Just as shooketh as you are.
People should know that habits get inherited. We need to learn that not everyone gets taught good habits and as adults we try to do what's best for us, but habits that stuck with us for many years are difficult to get rid of. I'm not a watertok person, but I do struggle to get my "ideal" water intake
+1
THANK YOU. CAN YOU TELL MY MOTHER THIS PLEASE??? She's convinced cleaning is just something everyone learns but I was never taught how to or how a healthy cleaning habit. From age 5 onwards my homes always fell into hoarder esque states, bc my parents did nothing. But now it's my fault when it's hard for me to clean especially having to clean after another person (my mom) and suspected untreated ADHD doesnt help
I'm not a watertok person but my family has had those powdered drink mixes for years and some of them are SUCH a good way for me to keep hydrated during summer. I don't even dislike plain water I just usually can't drink multiple cups of it throughout the day.
I am southern, I don’t mind people drinking crazy colors, do what you want, but I do feel like calling it water feeds into diet culture. Let yourself have fun without having to feel like you need to lie to yourself and call it water to be able to have it. Also, because this ladies are also southern, I’m disappointed that they are missing the most obvious thing to call it which is just “drink”, sometimes preceded by the color or flavor. Even at the height of diet culture in the 80s, I don’t remember people calling Crystal Light water. But that being said whatever you need to do to stay hydrated, I guess.
I love how you formatted this video. It felt like I was by the counter trying the drinks with you haha. Love the personal touches and honest opinions while also being respectful of those who do enjoy the different drinks you tried. More of this please!
same!! i like her kitchen background, its nice and feels ✨clean✨ somehow
My ex-boyfriend literally told me that long-term being with someone who drank anything other than water was a deal breaker. He definitely wouldn't have approved of flavor packets or stuff like that either but there are a lot of people who shame people for wanting to drink something sweet that tastes good. It was ridiculous because while I do drink soda and energy drinks (currently cutting back and moving towards flavored waters to help curb my cravings for soda) He would eat so many baked goods regularly and didn't see any issue with that. Obviously the things he would eat would have so much sugar and I told him that I could easily give up sweets like that but not sweets that I drink and he still looked down on me for it. I'm way more invested in this video that I should be 😅
Right?! Everyone has SOMETHING. Like I knew a woman who was so anal about people eating candy and she smoked like a chimney. How tf she could judge anyone for candy is beyond me.
My mom is like that lmfao “soda is disgusting and will rot your teeth” 30 minutes before she whips up a batch of cookies and eats half the dough in the process
@@balluney I am also like this honestly
I mean, baked goods and soda/candy are different, though. They tend to have different impacts on your blood sugar. Baked goods have more nutritional value, like proteins and fats from eggs and butter, and carbs from flour/grains which fill you up. Soda and candy are almost entirely sugar or corn syrup which has very little nutritional value and won't even make you feel full. Soda/candy are also digested much faster(basically because they've got less "stuff" in them) which can cause sharp spikes and drops in your blood sugar, causing fatigue and headaches. Overconsumption of any sugar can cause negative health effects, but you'll hit those limits faster with higher sugar foods like soda/candy as opposed to baked goods. This is all coming from someone who loves sugar, but had to stop eating candy and switch to diet soda because sudden blood sugar spikes are a migraine trigger for me.
@@HeyLeFay Yeah okay, but is a deal breaker in a relationship for you if they ate "too much" candy? I think making decisions for yourself is fine and well, but judging others for not making the same decision is very different
My work carries Jordan's Skinny Syrup. I swear to GOD we just got them back in stock after Christmas. I'm honestly 90% sure that watertok made them unavaliable online for purchase. We'd had so many people ask about them. I don't use them because I'm just... not a fan. But the most popular syrup here is peach, followed by coconut, mermaid, unicorn, and cotton candy. I swear to god, if we run out again in the near future, I don't think I can handle the stampede of people asking me when we'll get them back. Side note, I was restocking those syrups months ago and the entire shelf just collapsed on me. I wasn't hurt. My boss came in the next day and screwed the shelves into place. I will give them this - absolutely none of those bottles broke. Those things are sturdy as hell.
I accidentally dropped one of my Torani syrup bottles and I swear that thing bounced, and didn't break. Glad you're okay after being attacked by syrup bottles!
what do mermaids and unicorns taste like???
@@solarmoth4628 i think it's just sweet? or like a specific fruit maybe
@@solarmoth4628 Not sure if it was the same brand but my cousin had a "unicorn" syrup a while ago (used for cocktails, not water, lol) and it was raspberry and cotton candy iirc
We sold these at my old job and people went NUTS for them. Like, straight up insane. Our most popular was toasted marshmallow, people would buy all of it whenever they saw it.
I saw something about how watertok is recessioncore because making “recipes” with water and ice is more affordable than the days of stimulus checks and charcuterie
honestly dude I was not ready to give this concept a chance but the way you approached it helped me not only understand but empathize. super well done, I hope you're extra proud of this video
I feel for people who get nauseated from plain water. I haven't had bariatric surgery but before I got my GERD under control, water made me feel horribly nauseated. Sometimes it would come straight back up. People would constantly tell me "that's not a real thing" or "that's impossible" but I was thin in those days, so I didn't get the same amount of judgment for drinking, say, a Gatorade as I would now that I'm much heavier.
As someone who has always had issues around water, you’re not alone. I haven’t had bariatric surgery but drinking water always feels like lead on my stomach or nauseating. The people who are overly concerned with calling others out for not drinking enough water will never understand. We know it’s not healthy, we want to drink more water. But how do you force yourself to guzzle so much in a day when SIPS make you feel sick.
Out of curiosity, how did you get your GERD under control? 😥 asking for a friend
As someone with gastroparesis just plain water doesn’t sit well with my stomach no matter how much I try 😭 always comes back up
I'm a new dietitian and this is a tip I never heard in classes so I'm curious too! 😅
@phjudgement666 I'm not sure what it was exactly but stopping booze helped. Being more careful with what I ate helped (certain raw veggies are/were a huge trigger for me). Treating my anxiety seemed to help some, too.
The moment you said "ingredient household" at the end, I had to look it up and laughed. My kids always jokingly complained that we had tons of ingredients in the house and no food. It's not like I never bought snacks, but when I had them, the kids would ONLY want to eat the processed high sugar/sodium/preservative foods and not want to eat the fresh foods so snack foods became something we got for special occasions. I had cake and cookie mixes available, and my kids were always allowed to use the kitchen once they were upper elementary age, but if they wanted that kind of food instead of the fruit on the counter, they were going to have to work for it and make it themselves! They are going to love hearing that there's a term for our kitchen.
My adult daughter told me she recently realized ours was an ingredient kitchen.
this is the most ridiculous thing ever. why would you even have a kitchen in your house if you won't, you know, cook ???? what the hell this is so absurd, this feels so out-of-touch (not judging your kids at all btw, you're doing great by teaching them this lesson)
@@FileCode1459 I'm really wondering if this is like an American phenomenon. Not wanting to play the "America is weird" card, but where I live it's so normal that most of the food you have at home is ingredients to cook? Like even for lower-class people: I grew up on state benefits and 90% of the food we had at home was ingredients. Rest would be stuff like candy, rice cakes, fruits and bread (if you dont count this as an ingredient, idk if it would classify) and - if you were lucky - a frozen pizza for the weekend and Bifi. But when I was a kid, frozen/ready-to-eat meals used to be more expensive than just buying veggies and cook them up, so
@@Lee-ss8yj same!!! well i'm not against playin the "America is weird" card lol but yeah, in my country it's so common for any social class, for us it's just a normal kitchen. some houses have a specific room where you keep the ingredients, but some have plenty of cabinets to keep them, it's also not an indicator of class. and ingredients are in fact cheaper than buying the thing, except if you decide to eat only snacks, crackers and pasta, which is no good but may happend
My fridge feels so empty because all I have is ingredients in there
I think the classism angle that you took here is interesting, because it's almost exactly the opposite reaction that I had to some of this content. Yes, these mixes and such are cheap, and have been a pretty average fixture at the dollar tree etc. I have never really found anything tacky about them, I've used them before. What I think caused an instant reaction from me when it came to seeing watertok videos is the way that these people (who to me, read as upper class) were acting as if they'd discovered something brand new that was a health-hack of some sort. Calling it "water" too came off as irritating, because it felt like trying to add that health/wellness label to pretty up the common powders. This just reminded me of how thrifting became fashionable for a bit. Maybe its because I live in the South, but a lot of these videos never read as lower class to me, many of the women in them align with my idea of the rich women around my area.
I remember when my mom got me a hydroflask years before it became trendy. It was life-changing because it was one of the first double walled vacuum insulated bottles that at least we personally knew of and it blew our minds how cold it could keep drinks. After I kept ice in my bottle for hours in the hot sun I remember my mom going out and getting one for herself and my dad as well 😂. It's really fascinating hearing this water discussion for me because it was such a HUGE thing for me growing up with a semidiagnosed kidney issue. My mom would send me to school with a full 18ish ounce water bottle and the goal to drink the full thing at least once through starting in the second grade.
As someone who has had bariatric surgery twice, the water girls have been a source of entertainment and frustration because unfortunately most of them are in the US and it’s really really hard to get hold of any of the syrups and powders here in the UK , water is incredibly difficult for me to get down cold drinks are incredibly difficult to get down at the moment, but for some reason easier with the flavourings that’s why I appreciate the ideas. I just wish everything was easier to get hold of LOL skinny syrups are like gold dust so hard to get the fruity flavours.
The syrup had to be sugar free right? I was initially writing how in Polish shops in the UK sell many syrups of various flavours, but we never bought a sugar free one, so I'm not sure if they sell some If you're allowed syrup with sugar I highly recommend it, it not I hope you can get some shipped at a reasonable price
@@karolinahanna797 to add to this, if you can have sugar and want something fruity then why not have squash? genuine question, because it seems like squash is what they're describing in this video
@@lydia_cott thank you yeah I thought it was just Cordial but powdered but I’m a curious George as I’d like to try their flavours. I’ve got some Kool-Aid packets and I’ve noticed you’ve got to either put sweetener or a ton of sugar in LOL. I opened yesterday. A flavour called sharkleberry Finn , I’m trying to decide what it is it’s not bad though. I have a really hard time with solid. All I do is drink, soup, puddings, yoghurts, coffee proffee so anything to make it more interesting , I’ve just ordered some cotton candy, flavour, birthday, cake, flavour and candy, apple flavoured, skinny syrups so will see what they are like LOL on a sidenote. I bought some Jell-O puddings and they are really nice. I’m a particular fan of the chocolate fudge, and pistachio flavour 😂
@@catleesie1235 i've been making korean syrups called cheong, it's basically a cordial but you don't heat it, you leave the fruit in sugar until the sugar dissolves and then you drain it, it's very easy and the result is a fantastic syrup that can sweeten anything. And you can use any fruit you want!
I have no clue what you've tried, but my go to is frozen fruit smashed up in water.
The concept of a ‘Comfort Water Bottle’ is something I had no idea existed, but speaks to me. I have this lime green, 40oz metal water bottle I’ve had since high school and has been with me for like at least 7 years and has the dents to prove it. It has seen me graduate high school and college, been with me to other countries, and has really been a help in keeping me hydrated. I know this was not the main point of this video, which is also fascinating and informative, but something about comfort water bottles got me feeling sentimental
I agree! I have a thermos I've had since middle school...next week I have my first job interview as a doctor! It's been my friend through so many winters now. And last year I did a working holiday and got myself a cheap and cute little water bottle in my first day....I took it to work, on every hike, all sightseeing tours, all 12 places I had to move to, through three countries and after 11 months I dropped it and it broke. I almost cried then.
i clicked on this video for entertainment and didn't expect more. you provided so much more than that. this is the most insightful and thoughtful commentary video i have seen in a long time.
In Norway we have something called «saft» which is a liquid that have a special flavour that you put a little bit of and than put water in it. I like the “bringebær saft» best❤
I really appreciate how you humanize weird little internet things like this. Looking past the immediate surface to consider some of the potential motivations/circumstances/other variables gives a really interesting depth to an otherwise sort of throwaway topic, and it's just generally a good reminder to practice empathy
I think the scary thing about just calling it “water” would be in the lens of consumerism and actual health. It’d be pretty harmful if some younger people saw arguments about “flavored water is still water” and proceed to never drink plain water despite being physically able to, which might even snowball to just a general addiction to sweet things.
I'm still confused who these people that can't drink water are... Humans are designed to drink water, we don't need extra calories to consume it.
this was literally me growing up. even now as an adult i've managed to drink plain water regularly but i still look forward to having a glass of squash dilute at the end of the day. sugar/sweetness addiction is no joke.
thats what i was thinking, was surprised tiffany didn't see the issue with calling it "just water"
This. I struggle with this so much, even “sugar free” is dangerous and I wish people would not be dismissive about that 😒
@@sarahjeannexd Yeah, it’s extremely irresponsible not to point out semantics in this case. Like, yes, some people can’t drink plain water so they have to resort to flavoring to get hydration, but that’s not the case for most people in the world, and probably not the case for most people in Watertok, too. I usually agree with Tiffany, but I was surprised that she didn’t see an issue with it.
This is such an interesting and complex topic. Glad I stumbled over your account
Here in The Netherlands its very common to have " siroop " it is a very concentrated fruity sweet liquid that you buy in a bottle and then you pour a little of it to mix it with water to make "siroop". There is also a spectrum of it being healthy, we have the brand: "Roosvicee" that contains a lot of vitamins and also has one for if you have iron deficiency. I think it is mostly marketed to and made for kids because they do not like to drink bare water but adults drink it too.Yeah idk thats very common ! Havent watched the video yet only until 3:10 but my first impression as someone from the Netherlands (Europe) is that it suprises me every time when food in the USA is being discussed. I got the impression that you guys eat so so so much sugar and also other added shit. I bet so many people from the USA are secretely sugar addicts. I had a convsersation recently about food in the USA vs Europe and there are so many more rules concerning food in The Netherlands , even other countries in Europe. We even have a show called " Keuringsdienst van Waarde" that are a bunch of journalists who investigate certain products. I would recommend to watch it !! I believe there are English subtitles. Just a little throwback, I remember ' kale ' being called a super food and super healthy by vloggers from the USA whilst I was like ..... what do you mean? We have been eating kale here for decades. It always made me wonder how food is being viewed in the USA , how the relationship with food is over there. Well this was what I wanted to add and say! I am going to watch the video now.
the point you made towards the end about what you choose to put in your water really clicked with me like it feels weird for these people to put all this stuff in their water but then if i see a health and wellness influencer peddling Athletic Greens, Water Drops, LMNT, I'm probably not going to think much else of that!!
if its sweetened (artificial or not) i think its not water anymore but a fun drink no matter if its watertok or wellness girlies
Tysm for the captions!!
I feel like Tiffany always puts into words so well the subconscious impressions and interpretations we can't quite put our fingers on. Another great video essay, thank you so much for this deep dive!🥺
The moralization of hydration is really interesting, and it makes me think of the class implications of it too. Like, someone who’s working a minimum wage job like a cashier probably 1) isn’t allowed to keep a water bottle with them (depending on the job), and 2) only gets so many bathroom breaks. And being hydrated means you need to pee!
yes! I've been in so many jobs where if it's busy, you aren't allowed to even step off for a second to drink some water or go to the washroom because the floor will just fall apart without you. In my current job, no matter how busy we are, we are always allowed to step off the floor and take care of ourselves. Because, you know, we can't function efficiently if our basic needs aren't met.
It starts before your first job, for me it was middle school. There's like 5 fountains (counting the broken one) for 400 kids, that everyone lines up at during their passing period. So assuming that you're at the head of the line and it's not out of your way and you don't need to stop by your locker and you don't need to pee, you got a few seconds of drinking 4 times a day at most. In reality all those things rarely aligned, and even if they did you're just setting yourself up to need the bathroom instead of another water break on your next trip I went from leaving for school at 7am to returning from activities at 7pm on a single half pint of milk and maybe one trip to the bathroom if your teacher was cool about it
@@stephaniethesopranoI've had jobs where water was okay, anything else was "unprofessional". So a bottle of Dasani with a crystal lite packet is allowed, a bottle of gatorade was not
I actually did the "water" challenge after you said "drink a sip every time I say water". I'm truly hydrated now
Yesss My new favorite drinking game. Every time someone says "water", drink water