Super Capacitor Dragster

2020 ж. 25 Нау.
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  • Truck making love to the dragster “Who is...?” Sees William Osman “Ahh yeah that makes sense”

    @Rabbit_Hill@Rabbit_Hill4 жыл бұрын
    • of course uis William Osman!

      @wertyjax@wertyjax4 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah that’s William for ya😂😂😂

      @GeeSedan@GeeSedan4 жыл бұрын
    • i wish the backyard scientist was in it for more than a few seconds, he would have attached rockets.

      @findlaymckay7516@findlaymckay75163 жыл бұрын
    • Colinfurze would have added a jet micheal reeves would attach a taser and the hack smith would add a plasma cutter 😂

      @elimcewen1607@elimcewen16073 жыл бұрын
    • badman scott 👍

      @elimcewen1607@elimcewen16073 жыл бұрын
  • Peter: "I think I have better skill" *Immediately breaks it*

    @markog1999@markog19994 жыл бұрын
    • He didn't specify what skill he's better at, it just happens to be the skill of breaking dragsters

      @bagged_milk67@bagged_milk673 жыл бұрын
    • @@bagged_milk67 ok Canada

      @jacobpugpoirier3350@jacobpugpoirier33502 жыл бұрын
    • @@jacobpugpoirier3350 you see, if you search up malk it's almond milk so your insult doesn't count

      @bagged_milk67@bagged_milk672 жыл бұрын
  • What I learned from this video: Peter Stripol casually carries and spins a Karambit

    @SlimTony@SlimTony3 жыл бұрын
    • Duh he plays csgo lol

      @Sandux930@Sandux9302 жыл бұрын
  • Next time I'm with my girlfriend, I'll tell her I am a supercapacitor lover.

    @ezequieltcd@ezequieltcd4 жыл бұрын
    • Over in a matter of minutes? :D

      @jnevercast@jnevercast3 жыл бұрын
    • Seconds 😂

      @slayerpianoman@slayerpianoman3 жыл бұрын
    • Milliseconds

      @piyushnagawat24@piyushnagawat243 жыл бұрын
    • Nanoseconds

      @marlonarancibia3247@marlonarancibia32473 жыл бұрын
    • Micro seconds

      @mahaelluri6825@mahaelluri68253 жыл бұрын
  • I laughed soo hard when u stole that guys plug lol

    @meltedgyrofpv8477@meltedgyrofpv84774 жыл бұрын
    • Sorry! Sorry!

      @christoph6055@christoph60554 жыл бұрын
    • The most unexpected hilarious thing I've seen all week.

      @mistercohaagen@mistercohaagen4 жыл бұрын
    • Brilliant 👍🏼

      @timhuerzeler9994@timhuerzeler99944 жыл бұрын
    • I hate to say it but it looked scripted, that guy had a go before tom did anything.

      @junatah5903@junatah59034 жыл бұрын
    • Still is funny

      @meltedgyrofpv8477@meltedgyrofpv84774 жыл бұрын
  • We ALSO learned that there's a reason EVs have their batteries in the floor and not on the roof, and there's a reason dragsters only use minimal steering at speed.

    @feynthefallen@feynthefallen4 жыл бұрын
    • Is the minimal steering cause of weight or is there another reason?

      @edwardokeyoobala380@edwardokeyoobala3804 жыл бұрын
    • Edward Okeyo Obala because they are always on the edge of traction at the rear wheels.

      @m200mw@m200mw4 жыл бұрын
    • Oh snap now I get you I thought you were talking about why the front steering mechanism and input system is usually small... But yeah if you make a slight turn you are going to flip

      @edwardokeyoobala380@edwardokeyoobala3804 жыл бұрын
    • @@edwardokeyoobala380 Exactly. Good old Newton. That steering force has to go somewhere and it's much easier to flip it on its side than to overcome the inertia of it's forward travel.

      @feynthefallen@feynthefallen4 жыл бұрын
    • Also, real drag cars will spin their wheels at 100 mph, and take throttle control to ride the line of max power without wheel spin.

      @caleb7631@caleb76314 жыл бұрын
  • The joke at 0:03 caught me off guard. Bro I died laughing at that.

    @InvalidUser18@InvalidUser182 жыл бұрын
  • The moment I saw Peter Sripol I was surprised lol. Didn't expect him to appear

    @justin.g25@justin.g253 жыл бұрын
  • Will Osman has like the shakiest camera skills i've ever seen.

    @CH1CK3NNU66375@CH1CK3NNU663754 жыл бұрын
    • This is why he has Cameraman John

      @hirshkabaria8329@hirshkabaria83294 жыл бұрын
    • that's probably why he needs cameraman John

      @maruftim@maruftim4 жыл бұрын
    • He needs a phone with OIS

      @SirDragonClaw@SirDragonClaw4 жыл бұрын
    • @@SirDragonClaw Not even that can save him filming solo lol

      @Free_Krazy@Free_Krazy4 жыл бұрын
    • Almost puke watching the shaky video!

      @firsl9467@firsl94674 жыл бұрын
  • “Good job noob”-Peter Sripol 2020

    @groverbundy899@groverbundy8994 жыл бұрын
    • why is that guy just so dislikable

      @ti3685@ti36854 жыл бұрын
    • *Peter Strip Pole

      @lookatel3658@lookatel36584 жыл бұрын
    • @@ti3685 because his character is too different from yours, its impossible to like everyone. We are all different despite the fake mantra of political correctness.

      @hyperhektor7733@hyperhektor77334 жыл бұрын
    • @@ti3685 Peter Sripol flew an airplane he build from scratch. What have you done lately?

      @BlkRider@BlkRider3 жыл бұрын
  • Dang the weights to horsepower ratio is very good

    @Nathan15038@Nathan150383 жыл бұрын
    • It’s nuts

      @thethinkingbyte@thethinkingbyte2 жыл бұрын
  • I'm an engineer (electrical, focus = robotics) too and participate in many STEM events at my work place. You content is absolutely amazing; I feel it should be required content for any STEM based school or academy. Keep up the good work! I may try my own version of your helicopter with no swash plate...seems like a cool project.

    @eco8gator@eco8gator3 жыл бұрын
    • Electric engineer? Hi! ...I'd like to ask...why are there no hybrid tech in cars using supercaps instead of batteries? There's gotta be a better reason than just 'sizes', right? It would be cool to have an 'electric nitrous' system

      @xXZ31t6esTXx@xXZ31t6esTXx9 ай бұрын
  • Using your numbers on the car: You could charge the super-capacitor 180 times during that same 45 min lithium charge window and have a much larger overall operating time with sc's

    @hippie-io7225@hippie-io72254 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks for doing the calculation. Now if only there was a way to transmit power through Earth like Tesla wanted to do, we wouldn't need caps eaither

      @manipulativer@manipulativer4 жыл бұрын
    • yes, i was thinking the same thing. and then how do you charge it. but then thinking about light rail or maybe even city buses. this would actually work pretty good vs having to run wires over the road or track. anyw, they are quite amazing used in the right situation.

      @jmac1099@jmac10994 жыл бұрын
    • @@jmac1099 Perhaps one could use inductive charging at stoplights and such for city busses.

      @GL0BETREKKER@GL0BETREKKER4 жыл бұрын
    • You'd also have to screw around with charging the thing 180 times.

      @jasonpatterson8091@jasonpatterson80914 жыл бұрын
    • @@manipulativer we know how Tesla wanted to transmit power. With induction. It's literally how we wirelessly charge phones. And the efficiency is trash(30%) and it barely works at all over longer ranges, and that won't change. If you want to go fast with electricity take a train.

      @kevinrdunnphs@kevinrdunnphs4 жыл бұрын
  • 2:17 And that kids, is how cars are made

    @chrisray4748@chrisray47484 жыл бұрын
    • I don't get it.

      @n3gi_@n3gi_4 жыл бұрын
    • That’s how mopeds are made

      @lordtoast2743@lordtoast27434 жыл бұрын
    • 😂😂

      @S_K_J@S_K_J4 жыл бұрын
    • @@n3gi_ You are too young

      @nicoh332@nicoh3324 жыл бұрын
    • ベジータ because u are too young

      @nelsonchien7496@nelsonchien74964 жыл бұрын
  • "its really hard to steer at high speed" well no shit, its made to go in a straight line.

    @carlwheezerofsouls3273@carlwheezerofsouls32734 жыл бұрын
  • I love how William osman just has a presence everywhere on the internet

    @Knightly_Artworks@Knightly_Artworks3 жыл бұрын
  • 2:15 and that's how Tom got demonetized

    @kastro4460@kastro44604 жыл бұрын
    • 😂

      @yourcreed104@yourcreed1043 жыл бұрын
    • 😂🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😂😂

      @tahyabazim696@tahyabazim6963 жыл бұрын
  • Would there be any advantage in using super caps as an "energy cache", eg. for take-off power or for reducing wear on batteries?

    @irridiastarfire@irridiastarfire4 жыл бұрын
    • My thoughts exactly, besides I've seen somewhere here in KZhead an experiment in China where they installed capacitors in a bus and charge it in each bus stop

      @kontde@kontde4 жыл бұрын
    • Capacitors maybe great, But let us consider the price compare to batteries. The more capacitance it has the more expensive it is compare to li-ion batteries. Plus its bulky size, you can’t just compress a high capacitance capacitor cuz it requires wider area of plate for a high capacitance or for more energy it can store.

      @joenewton2085@joenewton20853 жыл бұрын
    • @@kontde Modern busses, including petrol-powered ones, use flywheels to store kinetic energy. Simply put the energy from the brakes is used to power a wheel inside a vacuum chamber that can spin over 30,000 RPM. When the power is needed, the generator is reversed, and the power from the wheel is transformed into electrical energy that is sent to the wheels. It's also employed in race cars. Formula E uses flywheel energy storage, as well as some hybrid Le-mans prototypes (919 Porsche for example). F1 uses a battery system (possibly Li-ion) since its still more efficient in terms of space to energy stored, however.

      @tld5380@tld53803 жыл бұрын
    • The channel "Real engineering" has a great video about that. Search for "Real engineering Tesla" and you should find it. The title says something with Batteries. Tesla bought a super cap Company to use These caps for the exact same reasons you mentioned in Your comment.

      @fritzwalter1112@fritzwalter11123 жыл бұрын
    • ive seen a capacitor bank for race drones to use on launches

      @thenerdling1@thenerdling13 жыл бұрын
  • He brought two of the most famous engineers in youtube to his place to make a toy dragster

    @atr32@atr323 жыл бұрын
    • If its a toy or a big scale model it doesn't matter in engineering...in some practicals it is made in small models and the same ideas is used in big ones

      @b-beluga4510@b-beluga45102 жыл бұрын
  • Great to see the legendary Peter Sripol over here & making a contribution!

    @mrsmith4662@mrsmith46623 жыл бұрын
  • "What have we learned today?" 1. I'm not very good at building cars. 2. Super capacitors are pretty cool. We already knew both of those things! Thanks for helping to keep us entertained!

    @MisterItchy@MisterItchy4 жыл бұрын
    • Super Capacitors are really Cool ( :

      @VINATech@VINATech4 жыл бұрын
  • What’s the relative energy density is these super capacitors vs lithium ion: - by weight - by volume

    @flyonbyya@flyonbyya4 жыл бұрын
    • Very, very, very poor. Supercap energy density (volumetric and mass) is terrible, sadly.

      @Guysm1l3y@Guysm1l3y4 жыл бұрын
    • The Supercaps advantage is in Power density instead of energy density

      @TheZio69@TheZio694 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheZio69 Do you need super caps for lasers or normal caps?

      @manipulativer@manipulativer4 жыл бұрын
    • Don't forget about price!

      @coolelectronics7343@coolelectronics73434 жыл бұрын
    • @@thealienrobotanthropologist bad answer

      @bismuth7730@bismuth77304 жыл бұрын
  • I don’t do longer foreplay. I finish like this capacitors in just 1 minute.

    @DIVANGSHAH@DIVANGSHAH4 жыл бұрын
  • Ever since I found this channel a few days ago, I've been all over it lol I'm guessing within a week I'll have watched every video. His detailed explanations of everything are what makes it gold

    @jonslg240@jonslg240 Жыл бұрын
  • Lmao that intro. Nailed it!

    @AbhishekThakur-wl1pl@AbhishekThakur-wl1pl4 жыл бұрын
  • 5:40 Dude, that sponsor segue was so smooth I was ten seconds into the ad before I knew.

    @SocksWithSandals@SocksWithSandals4 жыл бұрын
  • Build a elevated road bed like a slot-car track, but without the slot. Make it short in length and one-way approach, keeping the positive and negative correct. Make it fit between the wheels. Just drive over this on your track and charge the car quickly. Add more than one, and you got a race on. Battery free.

    @starchaser2489@starchaser24894 жыл бұрын
  • “Trying to wreck it” - figuratively in the manner that my friends dog tries to wreck my leg at the summer picnic.

    @eland1981@eland19814 жыл бұрын
    • 😉

      @Sandux930@Sandux9302 жыл бұрын
  • used to have a matchbox size toy car in the 1980s that was a quick charge capacitor dragster. This brought back memories.

    4 жыл бұрын
  • Real rail dragsters had the same steering issue in the early days of drag racing. The fix was a very low ratio steering box. Lower your steering sensitivity by a huge margin.

    @Battlefresh@Battlefresh4 жыл бұрын
  • One problem with using super caps instead of batteries as a power source is the discharge curve. A battery has a nearly flat discharge curve until near the end where it drops off fairly suddenly. A capacitor starts to lose charge immediately and drops rapidly to virtually nothing. The two curves are nearly exact opposite to each other. While supercaps can store a lot of energy, I can't see them being used as a serious energy source due to that discharge curve. Despite the above, I do like the demo you've done here and all the others. 3D printing makes building stuff so easy.

    @olsmokey@olsmokey2 жыл бұрын
    • They definitely need a dc dc converter to be useful, and generally seem to have the most usefulness when used in combination with batteries. They can take the brunt of surges, in say acceleration in an EV or for regenerative braking, while keeping the output of the battery cells within a range that promotes longer lifespan. The main problem is that they're quite expensive and heavy, from both the cells and the added need of an extra power converter.

      @punkdigerati@punkdigerati2 жыл бұрын
  • Haven't done the math for this setup but usually one should be careful with charging caps directly from a battery. The current peaks can decrease the life of a li-po. Which also leads us to the problem of all fast charging, it's cool but requires complicated infrastructure that can handle the power needed. Cool video btw :D

    @tomaszproczkowski7810@tomaszproczkowski78104 жыл бұрын
  • Tom Stanton? More like Tom Edison. Trying to steal from Tesla like that. Great video mate!

    @integza@integza4 жыл бұрын
  • 2:38 .The smoke from those tyres... so satisfying

    @asifsalmannazar485@asifsalmannazar4853 жыл бұрын
  • Super capacitors are used in some cars, but only as a complement when quick charge/discharge is needed (energy recovery), not as a main traction battery. I worked on some application for airliners too (never put in production).

    @corentinoger@corentinoger4 жыл бұрын
  • I found your channel because Cody's Lab replied to one of your tweets. I am so happy! Amazing stuff!

    @StingrayOfficial@StingrayOfficial3 жыл бұрын
  • Feedback: I miss the longer, more detailed vids

    @bilalhabeeb4684@bilalhabeeb46844 жыл бұрын
    • Bilal Habeeb same

      @grachtschrap@grachtschrap4 жыл бұрын
    • Bilal Habeeb boooo I liked this style more entertaining

      @charmctrain4574@charmctrain45744 жыл бұрын
    • But hes got to get them views and making an informative video tends to not perform as well, even if we nerds love it.

      @jayspice4987@jayspice49874 жыл бұрын
    • I don’t know who this is but I’m blocking recommendations based on this video.

      @habirton@habirton4 жыл бұрын
    • habirton thanks for telling us, but literally no one cares.

      @coyotedomino@coyotedomino4 жыл бұрын
  • Deadly virus: exists Tom Stanton: I'm gonna travel the world!

    @thecommenter578@thecommenter5784 жыл бұрын
    • I think he filmed this a while back but yeah

      @laytonpratt@laytonpratt4 жыл бұрын
    • He filmed this last year

      @OliverKrystal@OliverKrystal4 жыл бұрын
    • he's not 80 yo, so, no problem.

      @emanuelgoncalvessantos4499@emanuelgoncalvessantos44994 жыл бұрын
    • @@emanuelgoncalvessantos4499 - there are 16 year olds who have died from this virus (without having any known preexisting conditions) - a large percentage of people who get hospitalized and need intensive care are below 40 years old. They are very likely to get through as long as they get the neccessary treatment, but with more and more cases the healthcare system gets overloaded and not everybody who needs treatment can actually get it. - even if you don't show any sympthoms you can still spread the virus and kill other people with it So if you think this is no big deal just because you are under 80: think again. People who share this mentality are one of the reasons why this pandemic has gotten so bad out of control.

      @hannesgroesslinger@hannesgroesslinger4 жыл бұрын
    • @@emanuelgoncalvessantos4499 You are part of the issue.

      @NGNetwork1@NGNetwork14 жыл бұрын
  • The little green car humping the dragster made me laugh so hard.

    @mugglepower@mugglepower3 жыл бұрын
  • What an opportunity, two legends in one screen.

    @ketankotalwar6471@ketankotalwar64713 жыл бұрын
  • peter and william appearing in other videos always result in significant quality drop xD

    @TheInfernox7@TheInfernox74 жыл бұрын
  • Nice video. I think there is a role for super caps in ev applications, the instantaneous power is useful for overcoming initial inertia, but from an efficiency point of view, not much gained. Good for overcoming any restrictive internal resistance in a battery system where that brings down efficiency where huge current surge's are demanded.

    @melodysouljahrootsdubpress5539@melodysouljahrootsdubpress55394 жыл бұрын
    • What do you think about supercaps in hybrid cars?

      @xXZ31t6esTXx@xXZ31t6esTXx9 ай бұрын
    • @@xXZ31t6esTXx anything that captures the energy that would normally be lost to heat via the conventional braking system has to be a good thing. So super capacitors used in a hybrid design can only increase efficiency. Its not so much the amount of energy that can be stored in caps for this application, rather the time to charge and discharge. Once a mass is moving, its much easier to keep it moving. Getting it to move from standstill is energy intensive.

      @melodysouljahrootsdubpress5539@melodysouljahrootsdubpress55399 ай бұрын
  • I love that even though you prefer experimentation over calculation you still show us the equations.

    @aleksandersabak@aleksandersabak2 жыл бұрын
  • For a Rev 2 of this project, I think you should program a closed loop control into the steering to keep it straight. So, if you enter a steering command remotely, the steering control limits the desired set point in proportion to the speed.

    @felipeyoshino6951@felipeyoshino69512 ай бұрын
  • So now combine super capacitors with batteries where the caps take care of high draw and the batts running time.

    @Angelum_Band@Angelum_Band4 жыл бұрын
    • CSIRO here in Australia developed that tech for deep cycle lead-acid batteries, intending to use it for electric cars. They were overtaken by the supremacy of Lithium batteries, AFAIK the idea never went past prototypes.

      @nerd1000ify@nerd1000ify4 жыл бұрын
    • Or just use a transformer

      @rcstuff7718@rcstuff77184 жыл бұрын
  • 2:16 This is how baby Ford F150 Raptors are made.

    @Kj16V@Kj16V4 жыл бұрын
  • Since the caps get charged fast. Use both battery and capacitors. For normal low speed operation use the battery. Switch caps on for burst short high speed then recharge the caps with separate motor connected to the wheels shaft or small retractable turbine tube. Auto shut off is required when caps are fully charged to eliminate drag or power leakage.

    @AbdiPianoChannel@AbdiPianoChannel3 жыл бұрын
  • Tom, the toy RC car reminds me of another toy RC car called the Tomy Bit Char-G. I had one growing up and it took about 45 seconds to charge a very small NiCaD cell which then ran for about 2-4 minutes, depending on how rambunctious you were with it. Great video!

    @n00byscrazycorner43@n00byscrazycorner434 жыл бұрын
  • a few years ago i used a helicopter tail gyro for steering on a car! it worked flawless!

    @WickedTRX@WickedTRX4 жыл бұрын
  • The super capacitor rocket was an awesome idea. I would buy one. I'd love to see more experiments....greater heights.

    @ukulelefatman@ukulelefatman4 жыл бұрын
  • Super Caps can be used with regular battary as compensator for short time high loads. F.e. if you have a havy car and you need to accelerate it fast then super caps are used but when you need to keep some speed battary is used.

    @PavelPirogov@PavelPirogov3 жыл бұрын
  • The moment I watch one of his videos, my recommendations is almost entirely Tom Stanton.

    @comicsansgreenkirby@comicsansgreenkirby3 жыл бұрын
  • 1:00 - aren't the tires backwards? E: Yup, but you fixed it later. E2: Also - why you didn't compare the relative costs of both the capacitors and batteries?

    @nikovbn839@nikovbn8394 жыл бұрын
  • Real life electric drag racing is one of the few things I look forward to in the future

    @ryanm.191@ryanm.1914 жыл бұрын
    • There is something similar, where robots are programed to push other robots off the platform where speed is welcomed.

      @manipulativer@manipulativer4 жыл бұрын
    • Ryan M. Imagine standing next to a top fuel with electrons and silence thumping your body and making your eyes burn and cry? Yeah nah

      @mmazz30@mmazz304 жыл бұрын
    • @@mmazz30 I'll believe "electric dragster" when I see it. That's nearly 7.5 MEGAWatts of equivalent power lol. I'd like to see them make that power at dragster weight.

      @amorag59@amorag594 жыл бұрын
    • @@amorag59 Yeah. Normal car, normal fuel... Electric (or hybrid) will win. But drag cars aren't exactly normal, and petrol has a much better energy density than any battery for the moment.

      @tin2001@tin20014 жыл бұрын
    • @@amorag59 You DO realise that the while it's not purpose-built dragsters, that Teslas have been beating petrol cars in drag races for ages, right? It's the one form of racing they unambiguously have an advantage in. The performance package equipped model S can do 0 to 60 mph (~0-100 km/h) in 2.28 seconds, which very few internal combustion vehicles can match even if they're purpose built racers. Then there's this monster, which has been with us for a LONG time already: www.geek.com/geek-cetera/worlds-fastest-electric-car-is-a-1972-datsun-can-do-0-60-in-1-8-seconds-1416865/ Yes, that's a Datsun. Doing 0-60 in 1.8 seconds. Electric cars have a HUGE advantage in acceleration from a standing start. And I'd like to point out that an electric motor that can hit that kind of power output isn't very heavy, relatively speaking. The traction motors powering something like the german ICE-1, produce a combined total of 9,600 kw SUSTAINED output. (peak output for short periods can easily hit at least double that, if not more.) That's used to get an 800 tonne train up to 250-280 km/h And it does that using 8 traction motors... Thus each motor is built for sustained output if 1.25 megawatts. Given these motors are mounted between the wheels, which means they have to be compact and fairly light (unsprung weight is a major problem for high speed trains. The train as a whole can be heavy, but the bogies cannot.). Getting an electric motor into the multi-megawatt power output at relatively small sizes and weights isn't much of an accomplishment. Powering it off a battery however is quite a problem. Though a drag race only lasts a few seconds... The main issue is the current draw. The reason Teslas can win drag races but not longer races is because the battery management system can cope with extremely high current draws for a few minutes, but cannot sustain that output over a long period. In terms of acceleration from a standing start, an electric powertrain built for that purpose will easily leave all but the most carefully designed petrol vehicles in the dust. It's not even remotely a fair fight IF you can sort out the power supply issues... (battery current draw limitations. One of the reasons why supercapacitors hold an appeal in this context even though they'd suck for a road-going electric car.) The motors can handle it. Easily. The battery systems are where you hit a design limitation.

      @KuraIthys@KuraIthys4 жыл бұрын
  • Hi Tom, how do you think capacitors and batteries could be combined to achieve rapid charging and decent run time?

    @michaelfink64@michaelfink644 жыл бұрын
  • 1:44 This was a great video, but when you going ALL OUT on the sound effects made it into an AWESOME video!

    @joshacollins84@joshacollins849 ай бұрын
  • Wait tom stanton and wiliam osman doing a collab. What a strange timeline.

    @darius156@darius1564 жыл бұрын
    • they've done them before.

      @nesyboi9421@nesyboi94214 жыл бұрын
    • Not new.

      @lawnmowerdude@lawnmowerdude4 жыл бұрын
    • Have you been under a rock? They've done ones with the backyard scientist, Allen Penn, Tom Stanton, Ian (forgot his user), Nielred

      @Deelan1990@Deelan19904 жыл бұрын
    • @@Deelan1990 your well over the rock

      @fabriziodini5005@fabriziodini50054 жыл бұрын
    • Deelan1990 go learn spelling

      @thecaptainnoodles@thecaptainnoodles4 жыл бұрын
  • it's like a real dragster as it wheelies like a dragster

    @DenzCasuela@DenzCasuela4 жыл бұрын
  • I really love the fact that Tom makes so much by hand.

    @justintyler4814@justintyler48142 жыл бұрын
  • Two tungsten weights at the front and the middle may have helped stability at the cost of some speed. You can find them where Pinewood Derby parts are sold.

    @Onio_Saiyan@Onio_Saiyan Жыл бұрын
  • i once put some supercaps in my tv remote, and it ran for several days without any sign of loosing charge if you just did that at the factory, and had a charging port on the TV, you could eliminate one source of waste batteries from the world

    @cleverca22@cleverca224 жыл бұрын
    • Or wireless pc mice

      @spankmygimp@spankmygimp4 жыл бұрын
    • Just make it chargesble via usb c

      @timhuerzeler9994@timhuerzeler99944 жыл бұрын
    • Do supercaps age? A small rechargeable battery might work just as well.

      @Mike-oz4cv@Mike-oz4cv4 жыл бұрын
    • @@spankmygimp now i want to learn how to wire super capacitors on my mouse just for that, a 1 minute drop on a charging port giving you a few days of usage sounds great!

      @coolsebz@coolsebz4 жыл бұрын
    • @@Mike-oz4cv Yes. I think they get more charge/discharge cycles than a lithium cell, but you get less capacity so it sort of cancels out.

      @tin2001@tin20014 жыл бұрын
  • Been trying to do this for years, super caps totalling enough capacity to be practical are still way too expensive to replace batteries at the moment (and much to big vs storage capacity). Need another 10 years fro the price to drop and tech to advance...

    @Ra-zor@Ra-zor4 жыл бұрын
    • How about a combo?

      @scorpio6587@scorpio65874 жыл бұрын
    • Scorpio then even more extremely bulky with even lower energy.

      @jakegarrett8109@jakegarrett81094 жыл бұрын
    • If you need capacity supercapacitors are not what you are looking for. Super capacitors are good at very high discharge rates and extremely fast recharge capability over thousands and thousands of cycles.

      @otm646@otm6464 жыл бұрын
    • Isn't it just 27 times as many shown for the rc car?

      @TheRainHarvester@TheRainHarvester4 жыл бұрын
    • Same goes with batteries. If you still need more than 10 minutes to fully charged your car and you can't bring spare batteries just like we could with gas, the tech is not mature enough, but here we are.

      @kaikart123@kaikart1234 жыл бұрын
  • Making the chassis more close to the ground and adding a working suspension would help it keep more straight. If you added more powerful and heavier motors you could also add a wheelie bar(only if it was able to do wheelies).

    @rummysingh6486@rummysingh64862 жыл бұрын
  • Loved the bit at the beginning 👌 so funny. Reminded me of some kind of old top gear skit

    @MistoChristoful@MistoChristoful2 жыл бұрын
  • were camber, castor, and toe angle considerations made when designing the drag racer? if not, this might be the cause of instability

    @drumbum7999@drumbum79994 жыл бұрын
    • Other factors: Was that wing designed correctly? (and would it matter at the kinds of speeds of an RC car?)

      @KuraIthys@KuraIthys4 жыл бұрын
    • @@KuraIthys At that speed, I'd guess it's just weight.

      @tin2001@tin20014 жыл бұрын
    • It seemed okayish until they tried to turn it. Have you ever seen a dragstrip with a turn?

      @michaelaguilar9751@michaelaguilar97514 жыл бұрын
    • Seemed to crash when you let go of the accelerator.

      @marcusosterback3355@marcusosterback33554 жыл бұрын
    • Maybe gear down the steering for a much larger turning circle?

      @chriswilliams1096@chriswilliams10964 жыл бұрын
  • "It's really hard to steer at high speed... ", man it has a dragster design anyway....

    @anantar6684@anantar66844 жыл бұрын
  • I really like and approve your enthusiasm for capacitors.

    @pnda13@pnda134 жыл бұрын
  • Dragsters have friction clutches that clamp at certain hours power ranges. It similar to regulating current over distance to keep them at max power, torque. The clutches literally friction weld at different power ranges over the power curve of the 10000 BHP engines.

    @rascalwind@rascalwind4 жыл бұрын
  • batteries: 27min on, 1hour51min charge. ~%20 uptime caps: 1min40sec on, 15sec charge. ~%87 uptime seems like a good increase. also does peter have a folding karambit as an every day carry?

    @munitiondragon69@munitiondragon694 жыл бұрын
    • So you could maybe do small charging strip's on highways to charge your caps while driving. And to extend range you have a regular batteries or even charge your batteries over time from the caps. But I don't know how efficient that would be

      @Codiac300@Codiac3004 жыл бұрын
    • Codiac Using capacitors to charge a battery would be just buffering. Optimal efficiency would be to charge the battery directly. Capacitors are nice but their size to power makes them less practical and their cost is even more expensive than lithium batteries as they are now for less power.

      @drivejapan6293@drivejapan62934 жыл бұрын
    • DriveJapan I don’t understand the hype for supercapacitors as if they were invented yesterday or something.

      @amorag59@amorag594 жыл бұрын
    • amorag59 most people are not truly tech savvy, never herd of them, and it sounds like magic. Perfect recipe for flash popularity. Most people can’t tell you the difference between the various types of capacitors. Let alone the benefits of each of them. Tell someone they block dc and pass ac any watch them try to process that. Or to add fuel to their confusion tell them that electrons don’t actually flow through a capacitor. I have had people who know a bit about electronics/electricity call me a liar because they couldn’t wrap their head around that. Magic I tell you... magic!

      @drivejapan6293@drivejapan62934 жыл бұрын
    • @@drivejapan6293 Good point. As an EE I have the privledge of people smarter than me laying down the facts. But then again I see people with comments like "We could line our roads with charging coils to charge the caps as cars/buses go by" Lol yeah the same people so *eager* to fix your potholes is going to spend millions on that, suuuure. Lol doesn't take a tech sav to see that is ridiculous 😂.

      @amorag59@amorag594 жыл бұрын
  • WTF the intro xD

    @LokirProduction@LokirProduction4 жыл бұрын
  • Btw about the dragsters lack of grip 1:02 The tires are mounted backwards, the thread should be facing forward instead of backwards

    @assko11@assko112 жыл бұрын
  • Ohhh.. Clicks random intresting video - a wild Peter Sripol appers! Smaller capacitator packs are allready used in RC racing, to cover for the BEC when you draw high amps from the ESC. Sometimes the voltage drops below 6 volts and that would shut down the reciver. This is pretty cool!

    @skagerstrom@skagerstrom4 жыл бұрын
  • I'm actually more interested in how to make dragster more stable than in the super capacitors. I really like slow motion footage and more detail on what is mechanically going on when it starts to go wrong. Also anything on control theory is maybe a nice topic for you to give your videos even more depth which is hard to find in other YT videos of maker projects.

    @richardbloemenkamp8532@richardbloemenkamp85324 жыл бұрын
    • My guess is lower CoG would be the fix they'd need. Maybe some more weight in general.

      @LawrenceOakheart@LawrenceOakheart2 жыл бұрын
    • @@LawrenceOakheart a bit late to answer that... But my guess is that it needs a diferential in order to give similar power inputs to the wheels even if one loses traction Then the added weight and lower CoG would make it even more stable having two motors, one for each wheel is always a challenge

      @victorwilsonrizzo@victorwilsonrizzo7 ай бұрын
  • You, William, and Peter? Man, sounds like a bad ass time!

    @jesseaigler8934@jesseaigler89343 жыл бұрын
    • Wait until electroBOOM joins the party

      @innovationtalk3734@innovationtalk37342 жыл бұрын
  • I think capacitors would be best with brake regen. Those caps can then be used as the first initial acceleration. Over time more power can be pulled from the battery as the caps drain. This will stop the huge spike in power being taken from the battery. Not only will this prolong the battery life, acceleration after regen could also be faster.

    @DanielMosey@DanielMosey4 жыл бұрын
  • Toyota’s LMP1 TS040 race car used super capacitors instead of the conventional lithium ion batteries. At the time they felt it served better for the hundreds perhaps thousands of cycles of recharging and discharging over the course of a 24 hour race. Though when they went to the TS050 they did go to the traditional lithium ion rought.

    @shantygaming694@shantygaming6942 жыл бұрын
  • 3:56 -- Question for clarification! Your explanation of the wonderful question Peter asked you is great; I like maths. But hey, why the 7200 as a divisor? 2 x 1 hour (ie. 3600 seconds)?

    @jamespfp@jamespfp4 жыл бұрын
    • OH wait, I think I get it! 2 x Time (1 hour) because the (V^2 x Farads) is divided by 2? SEE ALSO: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farad F = Watts x Seconds (and that's a dot product) divided by Voltage^2 ...

      @jamespfp@jamespfp4 жыл бұрын
    • The equation for the capacitor energy in J is (capacitance x voltage^2)/2. So to convert it to Wh, it must be divided by 3600. So yes, the 7200 is just 3600x2

      @TomStantonEngineering@TomStantonEngineering4 жыл бұрын
    • @@TomStantonEngineering This is correct, but only if you discharge them completely to 0 V. With most electronics that is not possible, so strictly speaking you would need to do the integration with the charge voltage as upper limit and cutoff voltage as lower limit. Because of that the usable energy is even lower with the caps. With batteries these simple calculations work way better, because the voltage is almost constant and the result will be pretty close without taking the discharge curve into account.

      @1Hippo@1Hippo4 жыл бұрын
    • @@TomStantonEngineering Power equals energy consumption over time, P=E/t, i.e. the power is the rate of energy consumption in a given amount of time. Energy in a capacitor equals (C*U^2)/2. So how dividing the energy in a capacitor with time gives you the Wh, when the formula from the first row of my comment and in general says that P=E/t? Dividing the energy accumulated in the cap with time gives you the power that your capacitor can reach. It gives you the power that you are able to sustain/reach/develop using that particular capacitor. So, ((C*U^2)/2)/3600 gives you the power you are able to reach for every given second using that particular capacitor. Wh and J are equivalent, interchangeable. In fact, Wh are Joules and Joules are Wh. You can't divide Joules with time and say you've got Wh, because you don't have Wh, you have W. Deducing from P=E/t using measurement units, we get that 1W=1J/1s, meaning that 1 Watt equals to using one Joule of energy in one second. So, 1 Ws equals 1 Joule, one Ws is 1 Joule, 1 Joule is 1 Ws. You can't divide the Joule with time and say that it's a Wh or Ws. It's not Wh, not Ws, but it's W. So (3^2*50)/2 gives 225 Joules of energy. If you use 225 Joules of energy for the following hour you are getting power of max 0.0625 W every single second.

      @zrnjan@zrnjan4 жыл бұрын
    • @@zrnjan You are so close to understanding why/how the 3600 is used, that I thought I can help you the last bit. In short, it is simply a conversion. A factor without a unit. Tom Stanton says in his reply that the initial formula is for energy of a capacitor puts out an answer in Joules. And the 3600 is used to convert the result from Joules to Wh. As you state yourself 1 J = 1 W * s. And there is 3600 s per hour. Therefore the answer in W * s needs to be divided by 3600 to have the answer in Wh. Another take on it. If you have 1 J, you have 1 W * s. But not 1 Wh. You have 1/3600 Wh = 0,00027778 Wh. The factor converts the number by a factor that fits to the conversion of units. Lastly way I can formulate it. If you have a light bulb using 60 W of power, and you let it run for 1 hour. It has used 60 Wh of energy. You end off your answer by saying that the Capacitor will output 0,0625 W every second for 1 hour. Then we can conclude that it have delivered 0,0625 Wh. Hope my (long) answer makes sense and helps you :)

      @noer0205@noer02054 жыл бұрын
  • Front and rear wing required for more grip. That will do the job!

    @tforever5700@tforever57004 жыл бұрын
    • F1 cars

      @BLAZER_44@BLAZER_443 жыл бұрын
  • I'm a 2x National RC Car Champ. There are several things we can do to drastically improve the performance of this car. We can drastically reduce the turning radius and center the steering with the radio. Also, we always CA glue our tires to the wheels. Please reach out to me on here if you'd like to follow up on this topic!

    @JohnBarronII@JohnBarronII2 жыл бұрын
  • cool cool but next time, don't steal my charger!!

    @Gamen4Bros@Gamen4Bros4 жыл бұрын
  • 2:58 "It's really hard to steer at high speeds." Well no shit Sherlock. How many times have you seen a drag racer drive corners?

    @I_THE_ME@I_THE_ME4 жыл бұрын
    • As a car enthusiast, there’s no drag racer that tries to turn a dragster at high speeds. That’s just stupid. Especially on a drag car.

      @randomamericansoldier8586@randomamericansoldier85863 жыл бұрын
    • oh yeah? hold my beer and watch this

      @Blox117@Blox1173 жыл бұрын
  • To improve grip, do a "burn out" to warm up the tires which improves it. Running thicker tires also helps with stability and grip.

    @isedknow@isedknow4 жыл бұрын
    • You could also heat the tires with heat blankets like in f1 or with other way

      @paklekj4429@paklekj4429 Жыл бұрын
  • Super capacitator + little dragster = fun A whole lot of super capcitators + big dragster = Uh oh

    @campbellgentle7418@campbellgentle74183 жыл бұрын
  • "What are capacitors rated with?" ~Peter Sripol, the guy who built an electric plane and flew in it. 🤣

    @b5a5m5@b5a5m52 жыл бұрын
  • Hey Tom, Your projects are amazing and you are a creative guy. As this video points out some advantages and disadvantages of batteries. Maybe you could come up with a optimal combination of both types of batteries? 🧐 As capasitors could power an engine with high consumption and maybe then be charged with lithium batteries? Just a thought. 😊

    @miilumatti@miilumatti3 жыл бұрын
    • this supercap dragster can match the 1/4 scale dragster racing

      @daineramosquitco5816@daineramosquitco5816 Жыл бұрын
  • From my knowledge of racing wooden cars in boy scouts you have to have a weight in the back of the front axle to keep the front down, keep the car balanced, and also to make the car go faster downhill leading to the less cunsumption of power letting it last longer

    @qzlu@qzlu3 жыл бұрын
  • You should add a mosfet, and then supercharge the capacitors with a 40v batter while in series, then transfer to parallel, then take a brushless motor with high input on the car

    @Floatergang707@Floatergang7074 жыл бұрын
  • I mean, I've never played with such RC toys for more than 2-3 minutes at once. Fast charging with supercapacitor could actually be better for users like me.

    @mikoajp.5890@mikoajp.58904 жыл бұрын
  • You could get more stability and grip from adding a little weight out in front of your front wheels. This will greatly increase the moment of inertia about your power train and will give better control from your front wheels. Also, increasing your wheel base will increase turn stability as well

    @peterlockwood5754@peterlockwood57544 жыл бұрын
  • Were did you buy those super capacitors I want some for a project

    @jojodirk7710@jojodirk77102 жыл бұрын
  • I had an idea. Use 3 stages of batteries. Stage one has high capacity, but low charge/discharge rates, stage two mid-line in capacity and charge/discharge rates, and stage three is low capacity but high charge/discharge rates. Stage one trickle-charges the other two stages and is intended for endurance, long range, and cruise driving. Stage two is a charge buffer (like for regenerative braking) for stage one but also powers low acceleration, and also contributes to charging stage three. Stage three is also a regenerative braking buffer, but is primarily used for powering rapid acceleration.

    @vedritmathias9193@vedritmathias91934 жыл бұрын
  • Capacitors have a higher power density, lithium batteries have a higher energy density.

    @slap_my_hand@slap_my_hand4 жыл бұрын
  • That was a little disappointing. I was expecting to see the supercaps dump their energy into the motor quickly for some ridiculous dragster action. Larger supercaps can easily discharge at 1000A. Of course you'll need an ESC, motor and wire to handle the current.

    @franktkalcevic5342@franktkalcevic53424 жыл бұрын
  • Glue tyres on and use inserts! Use solid rear axel and one motor!

    @rikulaukkanen3273@rikulaukkanen32734 жыл бұрын
  • 2:16 little truck being sus

    @bloodyfox1394@bloodyfox13942 жыл бұрын
  • 2:15 The green car is in love with the red one.

    @Conservator.@Conservator.4 жыл бұрын
    • Oh no

      @tangy.mp4300@tangy.mp43004 жыл бұрын
    • It's the conception of anarcho-communism

      @kaikart123@kaikart1234 жыл бұрын
  • Could u have the stls for that? If i can what capacitors did u use i would like to make one the same

    @Lil_blueskies@Lil_blueskies3 жыл бұрын
  • Super capacitors can be very useful as a buffer - batteries would charge them whenever used at less than certain percentage, for example less than 90% and SC's would power the motor whenever the battery usage would be above a certain percentage, like 99%.

    @dingdingdingdiiiiing@dingdingdingdiiiiing4 жыл бұрын
  • caps should be used in regenerative braking and starting up everything and everything else on battery. so a hybrid solution could be interesting here.

    @Tailslol@Tailslol4 жыл бұрын
    • I'm going to start a car company and steal your idea

      @doctorpurple5173@doctorpurple51734 жыл бұрын
    • Elon musk wants to know your location

      @Dragonstorm1557GAMING@Dragonstorm1557GAMING4 жыл бұрын
    • Tailslol they already are in multiple applications. Like the dodge eTorque

      @Another_Random_Dave@Another_Random_Dave4 жыл бұрын
    • hybrids are the only way electric cars are truly feasible as sports/heavy load vehicles

      @THESLlCK@THESLlCK4 жыл бұрын
    • Why do we need to use caps for regen and not just the Li battery? There are considerable drawbacks with supercaps: The energy density spec tells us a Li battery will usually be smaller in size, you won't find too many with high Farad rating AND high voltage tolerance, we don't want more complication with parallel/series orientations requiring balancing electronics. Caps also leak so "starting up everything", most likely won't be an option after sitting for a while.

      @amorag59@amorag594 жыл бұрын
  • 1:19 RIP lithium battery

    @olfmombach260@olfmombach2604 жыл бұрын
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