BUILD YOUR OWN FORGING PRESS! What Did I Learn?

2019 ж. 2 Шіл.
42 131 Рет қаралды

I built an H Frame style forging press from scratch! The press provides 24.5 tons of pressing power, running at 2500 psi.
This video covers some key things I learned along the way:
- Frame construction
- Hydraulic system
- Design thoughts
- More!
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  • Wicked video. This has answered most, if not all the questions I had for my own upcoming build.

    @shayanthis@shayanthis3 жыл бұрын
  • This is a great video with tons of helpful information. Making video content is very time consuming, so I appreciate you creating this one. Huge help!!!

    @martinholloway7694@martinholloway76943 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for sharing our lessons learned - Great info!!! A press is on my wish list.

    @davidscadlock5569@davidscadlock5569 Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for sharing your lessons learned!

    @dwayneburbridge3283@dwayneburbridge32832 жыл бұрын
  • Very interesting. You are living proof of the adage, "learn what you need to know when you need to know it." Very impressive.

    @DavidEricWilliams@DavidEricWilliams4 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge4 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for the advice and help, I’m in the process of building one now

    @tonywinton7949@tonywinton7949 Жыл бұрын
  • Another great video with great information!

    @stephenjohnson6841@stephenjohnson6841 Жыл бұрын
  • Awesome video, thanks. I have that book but I found it quite hard to understand the design without having seen one in real life so this helped.

    @Joe_Bandit@Joe_Bandit3 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for the informative video!

    @SrBossCheese@SrBossCheese3 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks for watching!

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge3 жыл бұрын
  • So Good! Thanks!

    @sagorjag2690@sagorjag26903 жыл бұрын
  • Hey Thank you ! Im getting ready to build one now. I was on fif but handle failed second round. Appreciate the help my friend. CONGRATULATIONS on the win

    @trvscarpenter1@trvscarpenter13 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you! Bummer on the handle!

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge3 жыл бұрын
  • Great information. Thanks. I’m planning on my own press build

    @mollettforge5373@mollettforge53734 жыл бұрын
    • You bet, thanks for watching!

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge4 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you sensie 🙏🏻

    @outdoorfan12@outdoorfan12 Жыл бұрын
  • I can't wait to build my own. Thank you !!

    @offcenterforge1098@offcenterforge10982 жыл бұрын
  • It absolutely sucks as a hobbyist that these costs as much as they do. Thanks for the walk through. That's entirely too much force/power for me to DIY it. Welds on think metal should be done a little at a time so as to not distort the metal.

    @opa_plays_mw5318@opa_plays_mw53184 ай бұрын
  • Hey what season an episode where you on? Also glad I found ur channel! Excited for ur next pre order on hammers!

    @ReloadingQuest@ReloadingQuest2 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks! S6E8

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge2 жыл бұрын
    • @@FireCreekForge awesome 😎 will watch it now!

      @ReloadingQuest@ReloadingQuest2 жыл бұрын
  • Good video! On your pipe threads you really need to use a thread sealant that is made for hydraulic systems. I used Loctite 545 on mine, and it has been leak free for 3 years now. It's expensive, but it works. Hope this helps

    @matthewlynne6570@matthewlynne65704 жыл бұрын
    • That's a great idea.

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge4 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for the video. I've been wanting to build one as well but I know nothing about hydraulics.

    @eddss123@eddss1233 жыл бұрын
    • you bet!

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge3 жыл бұрын
  • similar to the press that Tommy McNabb was building and selling for about 4500. He later sold the design to Big Blue.

    @johnhege6502@johnhege650210 ай бұрын
  • Great video with lots of detail so I thank you for that, as I'm looking at building something similar. I am interested to know why you chose to have the ram on the bottom and moving up rather than on the top moving down? Doesn't that mean you have to move your stock up with the ram to the upper die instead of holding your stock still and letting the ram move the upper die down to your stock? It also look like you would have to hold the stock up around armpit high to get any forging done which must be very awkward and tiring or am I missing something 😕 Cheers

    @andywright2606@andywright26064 жыл бұрын
    • The main reason i chose an H frame design with the lower cylinder was for work height. Being taller and with a bad back i despise bending or leaning over for repeated tasks, so this was a good height design for me personally. As far as the lower die moving up, you get used to it and literally don't notice it at all. Thanks for watching!

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge4 жыл бұрын
    • @@FireCreekForge Oh ok well if it's easier on you're bad back then that makes sense mate. Thanks for taking the time to reply.Cheers

      @andywright2606@andywright26064 жыл бұрын
  • Just to share, those fittings have an interference fit, the angle of the male and female parts are at I believe a 3 degree difference from one to the other so when they are screwed together they kind of wedge together which forms the seal.

    @BenjerminWk@BenjerminWk4 жыл бұрын
    • Very cool, thanks for the info!

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge4 жыл бұрын
  • You could also bolt on UHMW or a bearing type metal

    @smaqdaddy@smaqdaddy4 жыл бұрын
    • That's a possibility too.

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge4 жыл бұрын
  • First great video have been looking to build a press and watching videos but like you don't or didn't understand the system. The one thing you didn't cover is what is your investment into the press? I have been looking at just getting the Coal Ironworks 12 ton mini press. Just wondering how much I would save by making a press like you have. Thank you.

    @chilipepperjackcowboyactio9947@chilipepperjackcowboyactio99474 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks! I think i spent about 3500 all together. But, the one i built is twice the tonnage as the coal iron mini. It just depends on what you want and can afford. You could build this press for a lot less, i chose to go with brand new components.

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge4 жыл бұрын
  • Question: does the .020" play of the ram head show up in the billets? My log splitter/press wants to taper everything, horizontal press, top squooshes quite a bit more than the bottom, maybe to much for blade tapers even. 😮 Am thinking about building an H-frame, with a shorter ram, and quick disconnects so I could use the engine and pump from the log splitter.

    @billwoehl3051@billwoehl30516 ай бұрын
    • I went back and fixed it, so it's been fine

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge6 ай бұрын
  • Very nice job. Can I ask why you have such a long travel distance on the piston? Would a shorter stroke not save a bit on material and overall size of press? I only ask because I have been wanting to make a press myself and I really like your setup.

    @tomstegner1294@tomstegner12944 жыл бұрын
    • I wanted to have plenty of clearance for all kinds of projects... But i did over estimate that a little. Something like 10" of travel would be plenty.

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge4 жыл бұрын
    • @@FireCreekForge thx for the reply and thx for that video, I don't know anything about hydraulics so I paid attention to what you were saying and I will use that info. i don't suppose you put all the construction details on the press build on paper? Care to sell a copy? I watch forged in fire and I saw the episode you were on, congrats on the win.

      @tomstegner1294@tomstegner12944 жыл бұрын
    • @@tomstegner1294 Thanks! I sort of just sketched it out, but i did use Dr. Jim Batsons' book as a basis of what would and wouldn't work, i would get a copy. Let me know if you have a question and i can try to answer it. Thanks for watching!

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge4 жыл бұрын
  • Nice job on the press, but have you fitted the replacement filter housing the wrong way round ? At 19:43 you can see a "flow direction" arrow on the casting that looks to be pointing at your valve block instead of towards your tank for the return circuit ?

    @graemewhite5029@graemewhite50294 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks! There's actually no arrow, "In" and "Out" are on the other side.

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge4 жыл бұрын
  • I know this is an older video, but i noticed a few builds that use 3x5x1/4 angle as the frame.....do you think 3x3x3/8 would work for a frame? Im about to start my build but now I'm second guessing my build structure integrity. I don't want to use H/I beam because it's hard to come by where I live and when you do, it's really expensive.

    @akairmen82@akairmen823 жыл бұрын
    • I'm not an engineer so I can't give you a real answer, haha.. but it would likely hold fine.. the other issue to watch out for is torquing or twisting of the frame during operation.

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge3 жыл бұрын
  • What type of pump and power did you use?

    @sbk8039@sbk80392 жыл бұрын
  • Have you noticed any deformation (in the holes) where your clevis pins bear against your steel plates? My design uses 1 inch A36 plate, but my pin loads are 39,000 psi--3000 psi over yield.

    @bwhip@bwhip3 жыл бұрын
    • I haven't, so far

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge3 жыл бұрын
  • I bought Bastons and the parts list (page 31) talks about wide flange I-Beam for the frame, but yet I see angle iron not i-beam is this a error? I also find the drawings a little confusing. Is there a better set of plans done like with Fusion 360 or something?

    @ozzyfranf@ozzyfranf2 жыл бұрын
    • There are a couple different ways to do it. This way is pretty standard for the H frame design. I think other guys have detailed plans, probably can find them on google

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge2 жыл бұрын
  • Kewl press and build, I'm late to the party I know :)

    @MrSoloun@MrSoloun3 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks!

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge3 жыл бұрын
  • I have no idea why anyone would make the moving carriage on the bottom. It's so easy to make the moving carriage on the top and keep the hydraulic cylinder on the bottom to keep the overall height down.

    @repalmore@repalmore Жыл бұрын
  • What size motor did you decide to go with?

    @rebelyell1970@rebelyell19704 жыл бұрын
    • 5hp @ 1725rpm

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge4 жыл бұрын
  • What gpm is your pump n control velve also what is the size of your cylinder

    @hughlink7341@hughlink73413 жыл бұрын
    • 22gpm pump running half speed, 5"cylinder

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge3 жыл бұрын
    • What about the control velve n hp on motor n rpm, thank you

      @hughlink7341@hughlink73413 жыл бұрын
    • @@hughlink7341 5hp, 1712rpm or something close to that, I don't know on the control valve they have a flow rate higher than whatever you'll be running, it does have an adjustment that controls the pressure

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge3 жыл бұрын
  • What was the total cost roughly? Planning on building a press

    @candjwatt@candjwatt4 жыл бұрын
    • I want to say 3k all said and done. I purchased new components however, I know you can do it for less if you find second hand or used.

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge4 жыл бұрын
  • What size is the angle iron that u used?

    @mollettforge5373@mollettforge53732 жыл бұрын
    • 3/8" x 3"/ 5" I believe

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge2 жыл бұрын
    • @@FireCreekForge thanks, I bought 3/8 3x3 it’s what they had in stock

      @mollettforge5373@mollettforge53732 жыл бұрын
  • Isn't that oil tank a little bit overkill? I mean I know how much oil that cylinder holds lol you could run a front end loader off of that size tank

    @ClownWhisper@ClownWhisper Жыл бұрын
  • Why’d you put the ram at bottom??👍

    @doughenning4899@doughenning4899 Жыл бұрын
    • It provides a more compact design

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge Жыл бұрын
  • It works but you built it upside down. The ram should be on the top.

    @robertdubuque3868@robertdubuque38682 жыл бұрын
    • You can build them either way

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge2 жыл бұрын
  • Add shems

    @johnrisher3007@johnrisher3007 Жыл бұрын
  • Where did you get the hydraulic unit?

    @wrongfullyaccused7139@wrongfullyaccused71393 жыл бұрын
    • What part?

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge3 жыл бұрын
    • @@FireCreekForge ; Thank you for responding. All of the hydraulic parts, especially the motor, pump and tank.

      @wrongfullyaccused7139@wrongfullyaccused71393 жыл бұрын
    • @@wrongfullyaccused7139 motor and pump from Amazon; hydraulic parts, tank etc. From Northern Tool and Supply, MSC, Grainger, and McMaster-Carr all have a lot of the same

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge3 жыл бұрын
  • Overall, you usually end up better with buying an old commercial one for cheap.

    @hinz1@hinz13 ай бұрын
  • Shim kit

    @johngregerson5984@johngregerson5984 Жыл бұрын
  • Please tell me price in Indian rupees

    @ashishmatlane7681@ashishmatlane76813 жыл бұрын
    • Sorry I don't sell these

      @FireCreekForge@FireCreekForge3 жыл бұрын
  • Price in Indian rupees

    @ashishmatlane7681@ashishmatlane76813 жыл бұрын
  • Buyers Beware of ICAN.... Many other makers of carbon bikes that will not waste your time and money. Do your homework before you buy from them

    @danwerkman@danwerkman11 ай бұрын
  • If you got between 5 and 10 thousands with a hand grinder I'm going to throw out my mill in my lathe and never use them again but I'm not throwing out my mail and my legs cause there's no way in hell you got between 5 and 10th using a hand grinder come on LOL I'm not trying to be mean I love your videos but stop now LOL

    @ClownWhisper@ClownWhisper Жыл бұрын
  • Too much rambling sorry

    @acowboyinalaska4651@acowboyinalaska46512 жыл бұрын
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