The Expanse - Planetary Railgun Strike (Inc All Build Up Scenes)
All scenes from Season 3 Episode 3 "Assured Destruction" in relation to the Earth planetary railgun attack against the Martian stealth ballistic missile platforms.
The last scene of the actual railgun strike itself is heavily copyright protected and I was forced to edit this final part substantially to avoid the whole video being blocked. I hope this doesn't detract too much from one of the highlights of the first half of Season 3.
I think the build up scenes are compulsory viewing to see the skilful manipulation of 'Bobblehead' Sorrento-Gillis by Errinwright to commit to fire, as well as edifying the posture of Sorrento-Gillis in the last scene and the sequence in it's entirety. Absolutely fantastic stuff.
Taken from: Season 3 Episode 3 "Assured Destruction"
Retrieved from Amazon Prime U.K. May 2020
www.amazon.co.uk/gp/video/det...
As KZhead terminated my last channel due to copyright strikes, I'm having to start from scratch. However, I will be uploading a mixture of content, from new original work, new show clips as well as previous uploads from my last channel. I hope it is of interest to you all.
For material from The Expanse in addition to this KZhead channel, please visit my Vimeo channel for content which due to copyright restrictions, didn't make it to this KZhead channel. All Season 4 content particularly suffered from this and I am now unable to upload Season 4 material. So all Season 4 clips have now moved to my Vimeo Channel.
Current Vimeo content as of 13th Feb 2021
==================================
My Vimeo Channel link
vimeo.com/speculativefuture
----------------------------------------
The Expanse - The Shockwave
vimeo.com/476214555
The Expanse - Miller & Julie: "You Belong With Me"
vimeo.com/476081028
The Expanse - Marco Inaros S4 Compilation
vimeo.com/474130670
The Expanse - 'CQB' Donnager v Stealth Ships
vimeo.com/468787470
The Expanse - Destruction of The Sinon (Sojourner)
vimeo.com/471772647
The Expanse - Season 4 Opening Scene: Ring Gate Blockade
vimeo.com/474376901
The Expanse - The Fall of Adolphus Murtry
vimeo.com/472025306
The Expanse - Ashford & The Tynan: Purging Piracy in The Sol System
vimeo.com/471768420
The Expanse - UNN Tripoli Rendezvous with The OPAS Behemoth
vimeo.com/471906436
The Expanse - The Wave
vimeo.com/471917932
The Expanse - Amos and Peaches (Melba/Clarissa Mao)
vimeo.com/471903834
The Expanse - Mars Docks & Filip Inaros Attack
vimeo.com/471777817
The Expanse - Holden Destroys the Ilus Protomolecule 'Machine'
vimeo.com/471786003
The Expanse - Edward Israel Shuttle Attack & Lucia Rescue
vimeo.com/476160327/
The Expanse - Crossing The Ring Space (S4)
vimeo.com/481459377/
The Expanse - Mars and the Issue of Generational Building
vimeo.com/487166484/
The Expanse Season 4: "Send In Your Marines General"
vimeo.com/487171189/
The Expanse - The Roci Pulls the Barb to Orbital Safety
vimeo.com/487192174/
The Expanse - 1st Night on Ilus, Finding the Bar & 'Company'
vimeo.com/487200989/
The Expanse - Bobbie Busts David's Drugs Cook Up
vimeo.com/487496257/
The Expanse - "..My Friend Had a Boyfriend With An Imaginary Friend.."
vimeo.com/487499357/
The Expanse - Murtry Dishes Out His Own Form of Justice
vimeo.com/487501857/
The Expanse - Holden Puts Murtry in His Place
vimeo.com/491195336/
The Expanse - Protomolecule Alters The Laws of Physics at Ilus
vimeo.com/491188034/
The Expanse - Death of Miller & Protomolecule Intelligence on Ilus
vimeo.com/491174725/
The Expanse - Pizzouza Aftermath & Gen McCourt's Resignation
vimeo.com/491182414/
The Expanse - "Hahaa! Big Surprise for Landing Eh?!"
vimeo.com/491212259/
The Expanse - 2 Of The Very Best & Emotional Scenes
vimeo.com/492753564/
"82% is not good enough" Clearly this man has played X-Com
If we’re going by XCOM terms, then sometimes even 100% isn’t good enough 😢
@@botbit1557 But 70% somehow is
The game where 95% hit probability leads to three fucking misses in a row. Multiple times.
@@Muschelschubs3r sorry to burst your bubble but that's how percentages and statistic probability works. Given an infinite number of shoots you would hit 95% of the shoots taken. But those 5% misses can happen at any point in that time, even in the early part, even one after the other. And if you don't do an infinite number of shoots, or very many of them, you could actually end up with 100% misses on a 95% chance simply because you didn't take enough shoots. The "modern" (it's been a while) Xcom games are actually cheating in favor of the player, increasing the chance to hit on high to hit odds. Tho depending on the setting the outcome is decided before you take the shoot. (I think there was an option to reset the seeding on loading a saved game). Add to that human perception where all the "Stupid misses" get remembered and all the "lucky hits" are forgotten and you end up with "The game where I always miss".
@@Palora01 Yea we know that. That does not help the moment when you really need that 95% to hit and it misses though. =) It is a long running inside XCom joke. Like decades. We have all become bitter and jaded and when we read your comment all we can do is giggle manically and repeat "10% to hit on rapid fire and the f*** sectoid hits all 3... I take 5 shots at 95% and miss them all..."
82% was exactly accurate after all. 4 railguns out of 5 functioned as _expected_
It was not expected in the show. The 5th only malfunctioned briefly BECAUSE the first strike was put off.
@chinguunerdenebadrakh7022 always my least favorite plot point. What kind of shitty machine fails after one warm up. Felt like they added that just for drama, especially cause this plot point goes nowhere
@@jacobshaffer7700 I can think of many machines that if they do _not_ go through the normal cycle have an increased risk of failure.
@@jacobshaffer7700 a lot of machines can fail if you do not go by protocols. Some - catastrophically. Tchernobyl was an example of not following protocol. Railguns especially are very precise machinery that have to be cycled and replaced frequently
@@jacobshaffer7700sounds like someone doesn't know how sensitive advanced electronics & mechanics can be. 🤔
A single warhead was able to kill 2 million people in an instant and create an explosion large enough to be seen from orbit. There are 20 warheads in each planet buster, 10 planet busters in each platform and 5 platforms around the sun, so about 1000 warheads in total. I think Mars may be going a bit overkill here
Given the fact that they only managed to get 1 off and out of the 20 heads only one got through only hitting 1 city and only killing 2 million people, I'd say it was underkill.
They know that even with a first strike, Earth's protection system is going to destroy most of the warheads.
@@rendedspace5606 Absolutely underkill. However, given the fact that that warhead was programmed to hit that target, the Martians must have been planning to glass the entire planet. You'd expect each warhead to be programmed to hit military targets or big population centers. The fact that this one "backwater" place in Brazil was the only place hit means that they must have spread those nukes out over every inch of every continent.
They don't state it a much in the show as in the books, but both Mars and Earth know that in case of an all out war, Earth wins every possible scenario. Not only because their navy has the numbers, but simply because Mars is not self sufficient, so while Earth could turn the entire surface of Mars into radioactive glass, if Mars did the same it would starve.
@@kukuc96 fair point
The build up and execution of these events is so well done. You feel gutted when one slips through and nails 2 million people and you can almost sympathize with both Sadovir and Gillis.
though , considering the blast radius of the impact compared to the continent size , the 'gaia' faction still got incredibly lucky if it struck any of the over urbanized continents/continent sections the casualties likely would been in billions specially with the collateral shookwave. i doubt it be only 2 million casualties though , since i bet with a outer planets & asteroid war going on while earth climate and nature stability be a precious asset to reduce the resources needed to sustain a large manpower pool compared to some of the other factions , i bet there still be plenty of mines not to mention indigenous groups or wildlife density 'nearby' that the collateral from the impact wipe out if nothing else outside of that though , surprisingly 'clean' weapons of the martians considering the speed though i have to think the show calling those shoots 'warheads' just was to trigger the audience 'oh serious' reflexes ...since at those speeds just a solid tungsten rod could be made large enough to outright start crack a tectonic plate upon impact. still its scenes like this ''even if the general? doing the whole 'appeal to commander in chief ego'' appeal was a bit mhe.. that keeps me tempted to get a complete set of the expansion show ,so much of scifi that gotten 'lost' in the concept every moment must either be action or 'romance' :/ i miss when fantasy or scifi stuff could take half an houer just to give you some ambiance and context for the world/universe itself ...rather then hyper focusing on personal drama or action etc the whole time. sometimes i wonder if those 80's action movies is to blame for this XD as in setting a faulty precedent of ''action = success''
How did they fuck up RoP so rOYaLlY...
lmao 2 million got owned
@@hazardgoose2352 How didn't they learn from acquiring and fucking up The Expanse...
Agreeing to a nearly 1 in 5 chance of failure is ludicrous.
The thing I love most about this episode was how the military personnel operating the railguns spoke like people in the military operating a machine of war: No emotion, just doing their duty. It added so much to the scene to make it feel “real”.
Just like Homeworld, I will always appreciate the "Professionals under Pressure" style of acting and voice acting. Though I wouldn't say there's no emotion, there was a frank tinge of regret in the pause before he read off the statistic of 2 million, but he kept it professional and reeled in his emotions in acceptance that it's a war. The faded line separating a machine of war and a human doing their duty was shown here and I appreciate it.
This right here is what makes it possible to kill millions. When humans are reduced into the mere cogs of a machine designed to kill. When doing your duty and being professional means taking lives.
@@ElodieFiorella "Recieving no comunications from anywhere in the system...Not even beacons" "The subject did not survive interrogation"
Chomping at the bit to test their toys
@@gamegoof😂😂😂 ... Like in the real world. Alot of the wars we see today are because weapons companies want to test their toys on real people ...
You know, a little redundancy would have helped. Overconfidence like this has definitely happened in military history before though.
I assumed they could only get these platforms In to place and did not want to risk a larger assembly lest they give the martians any suspicion. Hoping to eek it out with the minimum amount. The entire operation was a horrible risk from the word go; so no bonus points for pulling it off. Just got lucky really. No on who's played X-COM or D&D would have fucked with that 85%.
@@Chopstewie 85% that you destabilize MAD, 15% chance that your entire planet fucking dies Not a good move i'd say
It kinda fits the theme. Earth being the big dog, but slowly going stagnant. Things aren't kept up as well as they used to anymore etc. Not too dissimilar to France before WW2. Being a great military power on paper, but in practice the troops are unmotivated, officers lazy and corrupt, and the assets poorly maintained.
@@Chopstewie this is spot on, the US literally halted the development and deployment of weapon systems that would have made a nuclear war unwinnable for the USSR because they knew that continuing to do so would force the USSR into launching a pre-emptive strike while they stood a chance and had the US actually had the capability to wipe out the USSR with a high enough level of confidence that survival and remaining in power would be the result, they would have nuked the USSR. Aka Earth is the USSR, Mars is the US.
@@iraholden3606 I'm still a bit confused as to why Earth, having removed Mars' first strike (and presumably counter-strike) capability. Would not proceed to launch their attack immediately, and demand unconditional surrender from Mars within the operational window for second line attacks. I.E. "Mars, missiles are is in route and will terminate all life on Mars in 8 minutes, you are unable to mount a responses and you have 2 minutes to respond with your unconditional surrender." The books must have explained it more.
I love how the expanse nails the vulnarability of a planet towards almost everything coming from space. We simply cannot afford even a single thing hitting earth .
Well, a single thing larger than a football field. Small things hit earth a couple hundred times a day
Well, no. Nothing hides in space. The real problem is dumping heat - and a planet has ample amounts of thermal mass to take that. Detecting things happening on or under the surface of a planet is really, really hard while hiding in space is almost impossible unless your machinery can operate just above absolute zero. Operating at relativistic speeds does give the advantage of things arriving unannounced, but any civilisation that can accelerate things to an appreciable percent of the speed of light requires enormous energy input way beyond our technology level. Space is not an ocean. See Project Rho / Atomic Rockets for some hard science discussion on planetary offense and defense.
See, guys? This is a good use of hologram. To visualize a tactical map in 3d,as in actual space combat. Not like what YOU did, Star Trek Picard. Thank you.
Yeah. And they're not flickering to remind you that they are holograms.
The holograms of the aliens in live die repeat were good uses too IMO
ya take that 30 year old concept of Holograms
Predicted to be available in real life in 2300 :(
Seriously, Star Trek did holograms better in the 80's
That reveal at the end where the railgun failure was caused by the Presidents inaction directly took me totally off guard when I first saw this. Not only is totally believable and not just "oops gun jammed for drama lol" but it slams home the fact that every choice in war will cost lives.
'Never start a preemtive strike on your enemy with a single railgun. Have 2, better 3 just in case' Sun Tzu (probably)
@@P1x3lMagic That's a good point against an otherwise great scene, unless by bizarre coincidence they only had exactly 5 orbital railguns to fire at the 5 first strike platforms, they really should have (and any real military force would have) used every railgun they had available to fire simultaneously at the plaftorms, for such an important strike.
Tbf, if just powering up & down once is enough to really risk a misfire that’s more a failure of the platform. If not, then it’s just bad luck. Original strike opportunity was 82.5% success so could have had some freak malfunction then too.
*82%
@@777LGF Only 82%?? Then you MUST to have at least 3 operational units at hand, just not to f*ck up your home planet!
Of all of the “space opera” tv shows. The expanse really hits the spot. Very realistic(?!) and believable. Lots of great characters. Sometimes the acting lacks behind, but the writers have a real winner on their hands
Not to ‘as an engineer’ in KZhead comments but being an aerospace engineer it’s really interesting seeing the research in this show, most of the ship stuff at least is incredibly accurate
The only thing not realistic in the engines is the engines and lack of radiators, but it’s an understandable exclusion because space is just so big, and radiators would make too big of a target for any battles, take out the radiators and the whole ship is doomed
It’s based on the video game called eve online which the book write himself credited in an interview for inspiring him to write the books!!
@@ViperXSS2 really? Quite interesting.
except when they shoot these missile platforms with their railguns... and the railgun shells move at 50times the speed of light ;)
One of the best scenes in the _entire_ series.
I have not watched more than 15 minutes total of The Expanse, but god damn my heart was beating like I was running for my life
@@xanthos9641 you should watch. It's a masterpiece
except that is destroys all that the series tried to build with realistic travel times....
@@tiagodagostini wait could you explain more
@@beomie1039 The railguns time to target are shorter than the speed of LIGHT would. Mars closest opoint to earth is 3 light MINUTES and further is 22 light minutes.
Going to have to watch this show. I love that even thought the one guy was pushing for the strike he still felt horrified that a single warhead got through and killed so many people. He wasn't gloating, or saying that is the price to pay, or anything else. Just horrified like everyone else.
Because the show wasn't trying to impose one view over the other as superior. Both sides had intelligent and valid arguments, with each side diverging at the point where the risk was tolerable.
I hope you went and watch this show my friend, one of the best out there nowadays!
Indeed, because the show did not portray any of its characters as cardboard-cutout villain or good guy, they had understandable and believable motivations. And Errinwright was actually right about the trials that await the divided humanity.
War *SUCKS.* Hope you saw this show. 👍
@@petrowegynyolc7108 Errinwright is definitely a villain, much more in the tv show than in the books. It's more clear in the books, but Earth-Mars have an alliance and while the military on both sides are constantly worried about war, the politician themselves do not want that war. The issues only start after destruction of Cantebury and the blaming of Mars by Holden. This is actually the workings of Errinwright and Mao, where the first intends Earth to rule over the entire solar system and the latter intending to control the protomolecule. Greed and desire for power is what sets everything in motion. You can argue that there is no such thing as a permanent alliance but we don't know about that.
Always a fan of Errinwright's scenes
Oh absolutely! Always been in my top 3 fav characters. A couple of Errinwright vids due shortly, I'll make sure to upload in the next batch of my back catalogue.
There is not one single miscast in this series.
@@speculativefuture9568 can you upload the scene from season 2 when they launch icbm against Eros🔥, nice cut btw🔥👌
@@lucasl678 If there's no copyright restrictions then yeah sure. Give me a week or 2? thanks.
@@speculativefuture9568 Thanks :) i see it on your last upload 👌
I keep coming back to this scene because the nuclear missile caught me off guard. I was not expecting it to part into multiple different warheads at the end there and it just makes perfect sense why its designed that way. I also love the defense system shooting down a majority of the warheads.
It’s similar to an ICBM we have on Earth today. The large amount of warheads allows for more target saturation and a much higher likelihood of something getting through.
We have this technology already, it's called a MIRV - Multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle (which they actually mention in the video). Most ICBMs (Intercontinental Ballistic Missile) from the UK, US, France, China, and Russia have MIRVs in their tips, particularly submarine-launched as the missile capacity is limited. This means each missile has several re-entry vehicles that detach in space and can target different targets- so a single missile could wipe out a dozen cities. It is practically impossible to intercept a MIRV tip once it has been separated, as these are black cones the size of a person going Mach 22 coming down from space. In the show Expanse technology has advanced enough to be able to intercept it, but as we can see it is not 100% guaranteed.
Actually I just now got the visualisation of the missiles, it's showing them by delivery vehicle and then vertically of separate warheads.
fun fact: A nuclear misile can be used to destroy another nuclear missile. So is more likely to destroy all the warheads than trying to destroy each one
U mean that's what todays nuclear missiles do
This exact cut of this event in the show was what got me to finally give the expanse a chance, and i have never regretted it. This show is the best sci-fi show ever made imo
The new Battlestar Galactica was superior in every way. The Expnase is awesome but let's not get carried away
It was more the fact that where possible it was sci-fact rather than sci-fi, within limits.
HAHAHAH you gotta be a bot @@johanstinson
@@johanstinson Disagree, and this is coming from someone who loves the new BSG. It was my favorite sci-fi series until the Expanse. My favorite parts of most sci-fi series are the well-done battle scenes, and BSG just didn't have enough of them for me. The Expanse didn't either, but it absolutely nailed the quality of them. Andor's the only sci-fi series I loved where the battles weren't really relevant to me.
Damn, Samaritan !
Love the push focus on Errinwright at 5:40 and his shocked face. Much more sympathetic as a patriot who is deeply horrified at harm to Earth than his portrayal in the book
I haven’t gotten to the books yet, but I love Errinwright’s character. I hated him a lot of the time but they did a great job with him, how genuine he was in his motivations. It was interesting to have villains like him and at the same time have Admiral Nguyen who was just a straight up racist psychopath
LOL In real life it'd be like "Oh it hit South America? Whew! Ok, everybody back to work..."
Right, and we know this because this exact scenario happened in real life too.
@@penningtonknickernacker921because humans don’t care when 2 million of their kind is evaporated. Then again, politicians aren’t *really* human are they?
@@anatoldenevers237 I love Errinwright. He was a villain you could sympathize with as he was portrayed as a real man with real emotions and connections with people. Not some evil dude just indulging in evilness for the sake of being evil. You also get to see why he was a necessary evil in a way as if it wasn't for him its very possible Mars would have been the sole owner of the protomolecule, so even if his methods were evil, he did save earth in his own way.
This scene is a good example of how the long-range destructive capabilities of Earth and Mars are being depleted before Inaros enacts his plan. The UN launched almost all of its long-range nuclear arsenal at Eros, leading to those missiles being co-opted by the OPA. The Loss of the strategic weapons platforms of Mars (probably a prohibitively expensive and long construction process) to the rail gun strikes eliminates the first-strike capabilities of Mars. The fact that a missile got through, despite all the satellite and rail gun coverage of Earth, probably gave Inaros the idea that Earth could be vulnerable to high-velocity asteroid strikes. The depletion of ships during the mars-earth war left the UN unable to supplement Earth's network of defenses with a sufficient number of ships. We saw in 6.1 that even the whole fleet and watchtower satellites couldn't completely prevent additional impacts. With the first strike capabilities that were exhausted in the show, Inaros would have never been able to set up in any large station like Ceres, for fear that Mars or the UN would use those weapons to destroy him and his fleet without warning.
But the UN literally still does that, when the new Secretary general bombs Pallas
@@Eat_shit--die_mad Well, sending a ship or two wouldn't cost much as this is a retaliation of UN for the asteroids attack.
The asteroid strike had been planned long before this. In fact, it's set up in the very first scene of the very first episode. Inaros already had had this idea and set it into motion.
@@anarylyep, where a belter had been caught with Martian stealth tech. Also in a later scene Chrisjen Avasarala said that she “worried about people who threw rocks” foreshadowing the events of season 6
to be fair about the rocks, when reading the books it's basically mentioned as soon as the topic of threats to Earth or Mars come up in the very first book, it's kind of treated as this well known vulnerability that could be exploited at any time, but especially by the OPA because that's their only trump card over the planets. Marcos was just crazy enough to actually try it
82% was a bad number to gamble on anyways, even knowing the results of standing down
Every XCOM player knows this!
*_BABY COME BACK!!_* I simply can't get over how the best sci-fi show of at least the past 10 years, with so much material left... was cancelled. I've watched this series like 7 times. It is a travesty. And where it was left off, such a big cliff hanger. Genuinely breaks my heart.
It is understandable, unfortunately. The next seasons would require a ton more CGI, which would get expensive fast, and the know characters would always be off... a time jump with the same cast of actors is extremely hard to do. I would have liked to see it, even though the focus on space magic was a turn-off.
@@wellendowedplatypus9024 if Dark managed to nail 3 time jumps with different cast just from Germany .. Expanse could have done just fine with bit effort .. but they were more focused on what hoes which cast member is banging on their free time and canceling people to please sjw
Because it's fucking horrible. Season 1 was good. Season 2 also good. Season 3 was already what the fuck.
It wasn't cancelled, it was agreed to end it when they did, at a logical point. You should be happy we saw so much of the story in such quality - and that it was revived after it had really been cancelled after season 3.
you know if you want to see what happens you can read the books right? :P all of them are out now, the story is finished.
That single, red beam of light, as the scene slowly fades out. That sends shivers down my spine, every time.
Erringwright was truly a compelling character.
I like how the "villain" actually speaks good tactical logic and is clearly only looking out for their planet.
He’s only the villain because it failed and his superior was indecisive.
He represents the "hawks" of many cabinets that are very good at war. Role of the president is to see them as a tool, not as the guiding voice. True role of the president is to balance all the tools in his/her disposal, and even the ones who crave war have their uses, as they usually are the ones that are the best at war. Here the president allowed the hawk advisor get too deep into his head. Point of being a president is being to able to balance the peaceful doves with the hawks.
Well, if you look closely you can see his logic being contradicting itself, hinting to him having ulterior motives. Within just a minute he both insists that Mars is close to first strike because they are losing the war, but also saying that the UNs numerical advantage is melting away. Well, which is it Mr. Errinwright?
@@olenickel6013 He refuses to go into a total war stage, which is the only way that the UN wins without taking unnecessarily large casualties. What a bozo and definitely did the right thing by firing, but what an idiot for being indecisive with a weapon classed as a "planetbuster".
@@olenickel6013 I don't think he said that Mars is losing the war. From my understanding and recollection, he is saying that Mars is technologically superior and Earth only has strength in numbers. I believe it was also said that a drawn-out war with Mars could be disadvantageous as Mars can hold the resources from the belt hostage. He insists on Earth striking Mars first because that would deter Mars from unleashing its full nuclear arsenal should it deem it necessary.
I tried to watch The Expanse once. I kind of just... didn't continue after the first episode. Then I saw this video, the reason I gave it a second try. And now it's changed my life. I always find myself asking how one show can be this good. And now, the final season starts this week. I can't believe it's ending. I'll miss this show so much. What a journey. Bless you, Daniel and Ty.
I've put off watching s6 till all the episodes are out so I can binge watch it. I hate waiting a week to watch an episode, what are we animals
It was said to be ending, but after watching the last episode and how much effort and detail is put into a show like this, im standing firm with how some platforms agree that this show will have another part to it in the future
@@enrique88005 Milowda na anyimals!
@@Drunk0nCustard Hey, books 7 - 9 are out there waiting for you to finish the story with them.
@@BigMikeMcBastard Yeah but i was told the show was different from the books and changed a few things, so dunno if i wanna just pick up a book and expect to be left off where the show was.
WTH...Read the books and watched the series an embarrassing number of times and regularly look for any scrap of anything new and I'm just seeing this channel for the first time?!! Omg thank you so much for this, can't tell you how often I've fast-forwarded through episodes trying to piece together sequences and this is perfect. Sadavir's cunning and the SG's bobble headed bobbling on full display! About to binge your entire channel lol
Thanks Alicia. I've had a forced absence from uploading anything for a couple of months or so. But should hopefully be back at it from next week sometime. Enjoy!
i havent watched anything of Expanse yet at all!
Careful how you say his name dude amen 🙏
Have you red anything Cristopher G. Nuttall? He had quite a number of refreshing ideas. Expanse in a way is made in spirit of his "early space era" pieces
you always know that the villain is good when you can sympathize with him
yes
All we lost was some town in Brazil. Take the win.
I do not sympathize with Errin Wright in the slightest, he's a self centered politician who indirectly killed millions (and I'm not just talking about the nuke)
@@nightmare_productions4346 in comparison to avasarala who did what she did for shits and giggles, and god knows what the marsians did
This is what will the real space battle gonna be, sniping each other from great distance with their high tech sensor and targeting, not some medieval naval broadside action.
Agreed, although, if a ship could utterly negate it's IR emissions and thus become undetectable they could believably drift into extremely close range of a number of ships and then use railguns to absolutely annihilate several ships at close range. A hit and run tactic if you will.
Actually early space warfare will resemble ancient naval battles by alot . You would not want to venture to far out in distant space due to logistics and boarding and claiming will be the goal . Look at Isaac Arthur and Spookston
@@patricofritz4094 logistics? Ships will not be able to see each other visually in combat, and only ever would if neither can achieve advantage by overwhelming the others point defense systems with long range weaponry, they will then attempt strafing. Boarding will not be possible simply too easy to scuttle a space craft it's not worth the risk of sending soldiers or AI drones in to capture a vessel
@@will2brown50 I suggest you research more before talking bs okay . I would not say it will be the case for the time period this is in but definitely this century 22nd and maybe even 23rd century . You do realise most naval battles in Antiquity and middle ages had to stay close to the coast right ? There weren't any deep sea or ocean battles they had to hug the shoreline for logistics and because their design couldn't allow deep sea and ocean travel . The equivalent in the future will be orbital battles and not too far out especially since alone they could be destroyed and space infrastructure will still just be coming about . Boarding and disabling will be the primary objective to avoid debris and a Kessler Syndrome blocking space travel No one wants that . End of discussion
I do agree that range will be key in future space warfare as it always has been , is now and in the near to mid future . Like precision missiles , lasers and other 'sniper ' and smart and guided and long range and precision weaponry to get first strike capability more range and the safety as opposed to other , yet likely even certain , close clashes . It is just one of the best options and another '#rule 1'
5:42 I nearly gasped when I first saw this moment.
And you see the lights go out...
Errinwright: “I see this as an absolute win”
this plan was needlessly risky
literally
Idk about "needlessly". Had things gone according to plan, Mars' first strike against Earth would be completely down and it would be smooth-sailing for Earth to win the war.
@@KenLinx yeah earth almost got off lucky but one warhead hit earth
Dude if you don't take out the platforms, they can strike earth at anytime, and you'd be relying on Earth's planetary defense to handle the incoming missiles. As you saw the success rate isn't that high, 1 in 20 went through. There are in total 1000 warheads.... That'd be 50 nuclear detonations on Earth, assuming the planetary defense system won't be overwhelmed
@@minervali631 It was 1/20 with only 20 warheads incoming. There is no reason to believe this rate of success would continue. For all we know, the interception capacity of Earth could be 40 warheads, so it just expended half of its defenses on that one missile. Launch 3 missiles and the last missile gets all 20 warheads through.
Hands down the best sci-fi series I've ever watched. Think I'm going to rewatch it again soon.
It’s difficult to imagine just how devastating something like this would be.
well at least they nailed mars first strike capability
We have things exactly like this, no nukes in space, but MIRV warheads on ICBMs, one missile capable of destroying multiple cities
They already exist. To make it worse, our technology to intercept ballistic missiles once they're launched has a lower success rate. And with many of these ICBMs launched from submarines, it is much harder to locate them.
@@jonathantan2469hell, the submarine could blow up a nuke of off the coast of a city and cause a mega tsunami without it ever flying in the sky
Oh, it gets a lot worse later in the series. And you don't need a nuclear explosion. Just some decent size mass and a lot of kinetic energy. Don't go throwing rocks.
It just goes to show that you just need to follow the actual science. No need to invent fantasy McGuffins to add drama. The Expanse is actual science fiction, not fantasy in space.
Well the epstine drive , the physics-busting builders race and the unseen aggressors are a little far out , you cant make a decent sci-fi by strictly following current science , as then it would just be drama !
@@sminkycorp To be fair, the last two are kind of intended to break science, so I wouldn't really include them. The drive design, though, I'll give you that.
@@sminkycorp There’s already too much drama. Marco shouldn’t have been able to tie up ALL the allied forces by throwing rocks, Earth shouldn’t have been so vulnerable, Marco shouldn’t have been able to just sit at Ceres station safe from all attack for 6 months. The UN shouldn’t have walked into so obvious a trap, or failed to check for boobytraps. LOTS of manufactured drama.
@@Matt-yg8ub You are missing the point , I'm just saying that sci-fi as a genre - without any wonder tech or ideas = the genre known as drama.
@@sminkycorp OK, if you’re arguing for drama in general.. fair enough. I was simply pointing out that a lot of people tend to sing the praises of the expanse claiming that it’s ultra realistic… when in reality virtually all of it is dependent upon the magic of the Epstein drive for everything from missiles that never run out of fuel, to Inexplicably maneuverable vessels made of tin foil armed with physics defying guided rail guns …..All of this powered by hyper efficient fusion reactors that appear to generate no heat.
This is by far the best sci-fi series/show/movie/anything ive ever seen. The Expanse truly is a remarkable work of art
When i was watching this back in the day it had a kind of different impact on me, because i live in Manaus, by the blast radius i would be one of the 2 million that was hit by the explosion. Man i love this serie, i really miss it.
"And if they do manage a launch, what would the casualties be then?" "We estimate it would be-" "That's very unlikely." Bruh shoulda told him to shut the hell up and let her finish lol
There was a reason Chrisjen Avasarala called him "The Bobblehead" in the books. He was a figurehead, a symbol, not really a true leader with any spine.
Season 3 was the best. The build up to the episode Triple Point with the mutiny of some UNN ships marks the halfway point in the season, which was done so well. The second part of the season is the three factions working together at the ring gate.
Yes. I saw the last half of the last episode of season 3. Then it disappeared and there were no reruns. I didn’t realize it was cancelled. So I waited until season 5 was coming out on Prime and watched seasons 1-4 B2B
Man the intricate details you guys go Into. You're true sci fi nerds and I love you
Love how they panned through the red holo trace towards the end with the ominous soundtrack, powerful.
Really cool scene with a great mix of the advanced technology used in the conflict between Earth & Mars, and the personal stakes for the Secretary General and Erinwright. A couple of thoughts - the UN's interception of 19 out of the 20 warheads in the missile that got through is very impressive percentage-wise, but I still would've thought if they knew they were facing an imminent nuclear strike if anything went wrong with the railgun strike (as it indeed did), they sky would be lit up with interceptors - as in hundreds of interceptor missiles and railgun rounds. The bigger UNN & MCRN battleships clearly carry over 100 missiles/topedos and with the state of tech 300 years in the future you would expect that a missile could be pretty damn versatile and instantly be set to attack, interception, variable warhead yield, detonation on the target or in vicinity of the target etc. The UN would be able to track the Martian planet-buster missile when it engages its Epstein drive so they should have sent a load of ships to fire interceptors in addition to ground based defence. In the scene it only looked like 1 or 2 interceptors were fired per warhead. Interesting that warhead didn't hit such a strategic target. I saw another commenter that said Mars could've targeted all of their warheads to cover as much of the Earth as possible so whilst they may have a number of warheads targeting New York say, they would still have all the other continents targeted overall. But I'd suggest that Brazil could've been hit as a result of the warhead trying to evade the UN interceptors and that could've been the only significant target it could've hit without being taken out. That logic could be programmed into all the warheads - a priority target but if necessary to avoid interceptors it will go for somewhere else. The one missile getting away after the platforms are destroyed might not be due fifth railgun firing late due to the power cycling failure. Of course this part of the scene has a lot of emotional impact, showing how the Secretary General is now regretting standing down at the first opportunity to launch and feels responsible for the death of everyone killed by the nuclear explosion. But if the railgun rounds were all timed to hit at the same time and the first four did, and the fifth round was only delayed by a short amount of time it may not have been enough of a window for the fifth platform to receive a distress signal from the ones that were destroyed when they detected incoming. The one missile getting away could've just been bad luck from that platform responding slightly quicker to its passive sensors picking up the railgun round. I suppose it would depend on the distance between the platforms, and how long the delay was before the fifth railgun fired - The Expanse does have to compress the time in some of its scenes to make them viable for a TV show. It is great at getting across the overall feel of a near-future space conflict. Also, the legal consideration of the platforms being able to launch a nuclear strike with autonomy if it detects it is under attack is interesting. Of course Mars would have their policies and legal framework for doing this and it would most likely need authorisation from their Prime Minister before deploying the platforms - the legal basis would be considering an attack on their first strike platforms to be an act of war. However that still makes possible a situation where the platforms can launch a nuclear strike automatically before Mars has chance to formally declare war on Earth in response to what they consider to be an act of war from Earth. Interesting compared to today, where nuclear launch platforms will be manned and there will need to be some high level authorisation before a nuclear weapon can be launched. If such a deadly decision can be left to a computer there is the concern that something could go wrong and the system decides to launch a missile even if the platform isn't under attack - and if a machine has made that decision, who is ultimately responsible for the consequences...? Similar to the thought experiment I have heard about autonomous driving cars - if the car is faced with two options that both result in injury or loss of life i.e. it stays on its current path and will kill three people or swerves and kills one, how can a machine make that decision and who is legally and morally responsible for the consequences - the manufacturer, or the programmer, or the car owner, or people that got in the way of the initial path of the car? And with the complexity of modern AI and machine learning/neural networks it can be hard to even understand why an automated system came to a certain decision.
The scene makes no logical sense. First of all, locating all five of those vessels would basically be impossible, after that firing on all of them simultaneously would also basically be impossible. Firing the giant very very obvious rail guns in orbit of Earth would most likely trip every early warning system in the MCRN…Which would in turn alert those ships to potential attack. Travel times is virtually nonexistent (hugely unrealistic) But the biggest flaw in this entire scene Is as you said, the automated release of Planet destroying nuclear ordinance. Marco didn’t need to throw Asteroids at Earth to accomplish his plans, All he had to do is shoot at one of these ships and the ship would automatically launch all of its missiles at Earth. This gets into even murkier territory, does the UNN also have automated interplanetary ICBM systems Rigged to annihilate Mars if anybody shoots at them? This is a belter terrorist’s dream….Both sides pointed automated annihilation machines at each other on a hair trigger waiting for somebody to toss the rock into the pond And start the ripple effect.
@@Matt-yg8ub love how you say everything is impossible in this scene but still you don’t manage to explain why 🤣🤣🤡
@@paulog.5788 Correction, I explained why… you just don’t understand the explanation. I’ll break it down very simply. Earth has to search for the Martian missile platforms…. But Mars always knows where the UNN railguns are and it goes without saying that they would know when they power up … and respond accordingly. Earth’s pre-fire test would have alerted the Martians that the UNN was powering up to fire their heavy guns… And the Martian missiles should have automatically repositioned themselves. Furthermore the science and technology of expanse missiles doesn’t require them to be fired from the carrier platform. In operation those ships could arrive on scene and then deploy their missiles… Spreading them out to basically make a Decapitating Railgun strike impossible. For purposes of the story, tactics are kept very simple, But in real life every potential offensive move the UNN makes has a corresponding defensive counter on the part of the MCRN. Marco’s astroid attack on earth is unprecedented, Mars doesn’t need to resort to those kind of tactics and so I can understand why earth did not invest what is supposed to be a tremendous amount of money into upgrading the sentinel satellites to spot stealth material…. What Earth has the technology inherent in the watchtower system to detect Martian stealth vessels and so the MCRN should have altered their tactics accordingly, but didn’t because it would’ve complicated the story. Either way, what we see in the show is a very very overly simplified version of what would’ve needed to actually take place for earth to be able to make that shot with rail guns without the Martians reacting and spoiling they’re targeting solution.
With the wait time for the 5th railgun to fire, I assumed that Mars has an emergency button where they slap it and the platforms fire off all their ordinance. Command saw that all their platforms were being destroyed and pulled the trigger. Also, the UN likely has some sort of stealth technology that makes it hard to tell whether or not the railguns are charged up.
@@g.williams2047 Also important to remember that railguns are the fastest conventional (non proto molecule) objects in The Expanse. Even battleship size ones are listed as firing at a "measurable fraction of the speed of light" Comparing alarge size capital railgun to C and not like, kilometres per second (the Roci's is 5km/s for example) is interesting and I can only imagine how fast the planetary ones are
I can’t imagine what the Mars side was like, there was probably only 10 seconds of difference in strike times yet the fifth platform already started to launch. Imagine being the commander on Mars, hearing that four platforms had been destroyed, and only getting a few seconds to give the order to glass Earth.
Risky plan. Should have positioned more railguns. Two per target. I think you'll be fine leaving half the planet temporarily unprotected, I don't think anyone's going to rush your defenses.
That's very true. Two is one and one is none. Right now we strive for a 3:1 advantage before making a move.
@@aegisghost They were asking for trouble. When dealing with missiles in a class literally called planetbuster, don't take chances.
I disagree, they need a layered planetary defense grid. All the war heads were intercepted in near earth orbit. Interceptors should have been placed on the poles of the moon. Also need like 6 deep space satellites to form a detection grid for missile.
@@aegisghost There's the chance that if they pointed 10 railguns at all five stealth ships it might tip of the Martians that the UN was preparing for a strike. But yes, they should have had at least a few backups in case something went totally wrong like the misfire we see.
Were they using dews/lasers for defense of the planet ?
This was so so good
nice edits, thanks for continuing to upload
Imagine if the final railgun shot was even a second or two later From a guess (with each light being a missile) there would have been like 10 of them launched at earth And with how one of them managed to just barely overwhelm the defenses 10 would have lead to so many deaths I’m a dumbass and just skipped to the missiles 10 missiles for the final one with 20 warheads per missile 200 warheads 20 were enough to overwhelm the defenses much less 200
Not much of a loss, really. Most of earth's population are not contributing to any of the war effort. I believe Avasarala said that over half don't work at all, so they're leeches on society. The loss of non-contributing components should make Earth more competitive since they aren't spending money with no returns.
W
@@aegisghost psychopath
@BLACKVSILVER yes, but plot
Realisticaly even if the stations instantly sent out a distress siginal when they were destroyed it would have taken several minutes for the other stations to receive that siginal. I imaigne earth would have a window siginfigantly larger than a few seconds to destroy all five stations.
The Expanse need to come back !!!!
That laser based planetary defense system is the coolest thing I've ever seen in a Sci Fi show.
No it is just railgun rounds
It's smaller railguns
guys those are interceptor missile
those are not lasers
seriously dude, those were projectiles and most certainly were not traveling the speed of light
Refreshing! That series was sooooo good!
And for the briefest of moments you think Arranwright saw what he'd done and felt remorse, but he shook it off and kept right on.
Imagine if the rail guns failed and hypothetically they only took out 1-2 platforms then mars just let loose on earth
theres LOADS of points in the series where just one little difference would mean earth ends.
I love this show, everytime a clip shows up in my recommended, i have to watch it
Also, anyone know if there’s a name for the music during the missile launch and detonation scene?
For the majority of this sequence I don't believe there is any one specific title which covers the soundtrack, however I stand to be corrected on that. The scene does end though on "What are you waiting for" Link here: kzhead.info/sun/n7yvgs9orJSfnY0/bejne.html
Interesting. Thank you.
@@speculativefuture9568 thank you so much, I was looking for this!
Amazing intense scenes.
The pain and regret on those faces near the end, that's some really good acting.
Im so sad this show is ending but i think they did a good job wrapping it up, especially in 6 instead of 10 episodes
5:30 Well, wonder if Mars have a planetary defense system like the UNN. And in this scene, PDCs would usually be the go-to anti missile system. But here it seems the UNN have quite a sophisticated railgun defense system that it has the ability to hit relatively small objects.
The problem is the effective range, which is mostly a feature of muzzle velocity. If you want to protect against missiles converging on ship a few hundred metres across, PDCs are fine, but if you need to interdict hundreds of kilometres of orbit you need a railgun. Besides which, if you're a stationary platform in orbit, mass and power aren't a consideration so why not?
It's pretty wild looking, I wouldn't be surprised if it was some sort of energy weapon
They don't. If the UNN wanted they could turn Mars into glass.
@@mac_attack_zach railguns are solid shot buy accelerated to huge speeds. The 'trail' is often added because the electrical arcing inside the rails often turns the outer layer of the slug to plasma.
it also shows how the UNN railguns were optimized for short range rapid fire, not long range max power shots. The railguns had a power cycling issue due to ramping up their capacitors to max power and sitting there for hours, not actively charging and and rapidly discharging like they are designed to do!
The scary thing about this scene that I don't see people mention is that, aside from the advanced capability and the number of bombs, that kind of missile is a very real thing the nuclear powers have developed. Most ICBMs aren't 1 bomb for 1 missile but more like 10 to 15 for 1 missile. Contained inside the warheads are MIRVs: Multiple Independently Targetable Reentry Vehicles, each containing a nuclear weapon and essentially allowing nuclear powers to shotgun blast an area with hydrogen bombs using only 1 missile. This makes it incredibly costly to try to intercept a nuclear missile as you suddenly need 10 to 15 interceptors for each ICBM. Occasionally, a few of the MIRVs will be dummies without any nuclear payload to try to waste enemy interceptors on empty MIRVs but as a defending country, you can't take that risk. Currently, as far as is known publicly, the ability to intercept these things is still extremely limited meaning that if a nuclear war were to break out, it's still highly likely pretty much everyone on Earth would be dead or wish they were. Of course, there's always the possibility countries have developed in secret the capabilities to hit these things but given how expensive and difficult Israel's Iron Dome system was to develop and it still at best only has a 97 percent interception rate against comparably easier to hit targets, I wouldn't be so sure. Given how fast ICBMs and their warheads travel, intercepting one is almost like trying to shoot every pellet from a shotgun out of the air using a gun of your own. And even if something like Iron Dome does exist for nuclear weapons, 97 percent is still an unacceptably low number.
Most of the larger MIRVs have been decommissioned via different de-nuclearisation treaties. The US only mounts 3 warheads per missile now and retired the Peacekeeper which was the largest MIRV in its arsenal.
@@RobertStrong124 and those three warheads to a missile are all on the Ohio's. Most of which are still armed with their 24 Trident SLBMs.... 72 warheads for each sub... And unless they're in port, you don't know where any one of them are at any given time.... A fact that most certainly keeps many a dictator awake at night.
@@Tank50us Trident II missiles are spec'd for up to 14 MIRVs each, but at the moment are limited to 4 MIRVs, not 3. Minuteman III silo-based missiles are spec'd for a max of 3, but due to START have been limited to only 1 warhead each. A compliment of 24 Trident II SLBMs will carry 96 MIRVs, not 72.
also goes to show how insanely advanced Expanse tech is, shipboard PDCs regularly deal with missiles closing at velocities that would make ICBMs blush
@@RobertStrong124 And the war race is on again... Did you look at the Satan-2 Russian missile?
I fucking love this show. I really wish they would have made way more seasons.
I miss this show ... one of the best space/sci-fi shows ever!!!
until amazon took it over that is... syfy made seasons were among my favorite scifi content ever. sadly amazon has polluted a lot of very promising franchises...
One thing I really appreciate about this scene and in the series in general, is that it displays travel in space as following a curve. They’re are no straight lines in space travel, only orbits and changing orbits. Everything follows an orbit, be it of a planet, a sun or the galaxy. Too often in science fiction, space travel is depicted as a straight line, because it’s a vacuum, neglecting the fact that gravity pulls on everything. If you should fire a bullet or a missile, no matter how fast, it will follow an orbit.
No, if you shoot a projectile in space it's trajectory will be warped by gravity. Different words but it's makes its role clearer.
@@midweekcentaur1050 you’re right
Although in this specific scene it's plainly wrong. If you fire something at "a measurable fraction of c", nothing in the Solar system can curve its trajectory to be visually different from a straight line. You need at least a white dwarf, if not a neutron star, to generate a strong enough gravity field.
@@AldorEricsson Anything with mass is affected by gravity, which means it's direction of travel is warped by gravity.
@@stephjsinclair if the rounds were moving close to the speed of light then the MCRN wouldn’t see them being fired until they’d hit the platforms, which is what happened. Yes they had to lead their targets. That is also the case if you want to move from one orbit to another in order to intercept a planet. Your trajectory would still be curved however in this case the curvature is small because of the low-mass and speed of the projectiles.
That's why there are two snipers per target, at least.
This was a great series. They need to bring it back.
There were 3 more books written but they take place 30 years after the first 6 ended (which the TV series followed).
@@riogrande5761 I'd like them to pick this up and keep going.
what a show. I really miss these. Would have been great if they kept it going longer. Like how the command audio from the lauch sounds like audio from Homeworld.
I watched the shows read the books and god damn I want more. This show is still a better universe than the simulation I'm currently in.
Expanse - это не тщедушные игры престолов - это больше, шире и реальнее (в рамках текущей цивилизации)
this show is such a gift to humanity
Every time I watch this I get goosebumps. It really hits hard
This is the type of Sci-Fi I like. Feels way more realistic (with the exception of the protomolecule) than anything in Star Wars or Star Trek.
I like to differentiate: Science Fiction is based on predictions from reality. Sci-Fi is astro-fantasy.
@@hoilst265 This is basically the Hard Sci-Fi vs Soft Sci-Fi
And the superluminal communications! Completely impossible and often overlooked
The simple fact of the matter is, humans didnt evolve from throwing rocks. We just got really good at it. - Sun Tzu probably
I guess bullets are technically rocks.
And then threw rocks that made explosions by splitting the very atoms they're made of
In the big scheme of things, pointy stick and big effin' rock still hold the lead, body-count wise.
Not Sun Tzu, Marco Inaros lmao
very well done show , even better book series
That wasn't the president's fault. The authority to even turn the things on should be with the president. The turning it on and asking for permission is just a waste of resources.
Coordinates should also be entered by the president.
Really enjoyed this show. Sad that it came to an end.
Budgets always gets In the way 🥲🥲
Too bad Earth only had 5 railguns
They should have at least six so they could point one to the capital City of Mars.
@@SX41799 wouldn’t that be impossible, (or at least very inaccurate, considering Mars also orbits the sun lol. By the time the rail gun blast gets to its initial target, the planet is either not there anymore or you hit some random part of Mars. Remember that railgun blasts only travel straight lol
@@mrfister1234 not quite true. It would be fairly eZy go launch a railgun round to hit mars. Unfortunately a direct strike on Mars would lead to earth being glassed by mars.
@@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269 a loving God would not eternally judge people for sinning when they could never be certain of his existence. A loving God could also never let mankind be absolutely certain of his existence as doing so would make any love between man and God meaningless. Therefore, we can conclude that a loving God could not eternally judge people for sin, therefore Hell and judgement and all the other threats of violence that religious fundamentalists use to scare people theologically cannot exist. God wants people to act kindly. He will not torture you if you don't.
@@mrfister1234 You can calculate where it will be and fire at that. They would have had to do that for the missile carriers as well.
Miss this show!!! True SciFi epic!
I would say the first and second season of expanse was the best sci-fi series I have ever watched hands down.
This scene is very simplified, this scene would have taken hours or days in the book to do because missiles are essentially small automated ships giving them unlimited range with a good navigation system. Some of these platforms, like how the holograms in the scene show, are located on the other side of the solar system. Light from the sun takes 43 minutes to reach Jupiter and around 5 hours to Pluto. A railgun slug traveling at a percentage of light speed will take much longer. However, the ability to hit a railgun shot at a distance of many AU is insane engineering. The slug itself must be a small kinetic kill vehicle with a steering system and the ability to explode.
I don't think so, because it's stated that launch platforms are close to earth, to decrease the chance of an interception.
There are a lot of cuts and time that is implied between events, they would have timed the railgun shots to hit simultaneously with each other so unless you want hours of random UN shit in-between the action I don't really understand your point
The launch platforms are less then One AU from Earth
@@Eat_shit--die_mad That's why the hologram has one of the platforms on the other side of the Sun right?
@@Eat_shit--die_mad But the missile the 5th platform launches, would have a fusion drive like a spaceship. Even not limited to human body g-limits, the missile closed in to Earth in just seconds... Not too realistic. But hey, yes, in the shows you always have to give some room for the sake of the rythm and the action. It happens always
And this is why Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest sonofabitch in space, and one does not 'eyeball' a railgun.
It’s the Mass Effect deep cuts that make my day 😅
Still pretty crazy that Earth's anti-ICBM interceptors are able to hit 9 out of the 10 MIRV warheads.
god damn. I'm currently listening to A Remembrance of Earth's Past in preparation for the 3 Body Problem series on Netflix and it's got me thinking so much about this series as well. I never read these books but my plan is to go back and get the 9 audiobooks for the entire series. So interesting imagining a future humanity who has colonized the solar system.
Those are very good book, might be hard to get into at first, as there is a lot of characters and subplots. It's not unlike A Song of Ice and Fire, as The Expanse authors were assistants of GRR Martin.
One of the best sequences in scifi history.
how to make the president a scapegoat at a cost of few million lives.
Anyway, they should have anticipated the possibility of failure and had a redundant system ready just in case.
Without question, The Expanse is 1 of the very best sci-fi TV shows ever created!
Serious stretch. The writing gets really atrocious, especially in later seasons, IMO, and the 'cool' scenes are really rare and far between and feel like an absolute slog to get to between all the corny romance arcs and soap opera non-sense. The politics and the 'power scaling' of factions is also all over the place and I think that's what hurts the story the most. Mars is supposed to be this united, advanced faction, and they end up totally irrelevant pushovers from season 1 onwards, meanwhile the OPA, which isn't even supposed to be a real military power, completely rolls everyone in ludicrous ways.
@shadow7988 You can't please eveybody...there's a cynic in every lot...
My favorite detail is how they show equipment can fail. Often at the worst possible moment.
"It was a power cycle function caused by standing down earlier" Jesus Christ.
Fantastic scene, but something I don't understand is wouldn't going after the Martian stealth platforms have elicited an all-out nuclear war? That would be like if we suddenly tried to sink all of Russia's nuclear ballistic missile subs. The Russians would logically assume a nuclear first strike was underway and fire everything. Why didn't the Martians do the same?
As they said at the end they eliminated all first strike capabilities of mars. It's like russia had to drop the nukes from planes and without the us even having attacked russian soil.
Also if Earth died so would Mars. Remember Mars wasn't completely self sufficient.
@@devintariel3769 really? Then how can the two have any war at all. That's like if the US went to war with China but was still dependant on supplies from China. (Which is not the case in reality) but isn't that strategically unwise to have war at all?
@@rms1034 Earth need Mars resources and Mars need Earth's agriculture because Earth still the only place to get alive soil and complex biological
@@wow664112 Yes, but do you think they already cut off their trades with eachother since they at war?
breaks my heart they cancelled this
Oh... How I miss this Program... Please come back...
5:38 the size of that explosion is truly ungodly... and they don't even really defeat mars, it just kind of rots away after the gate opens
There's also Luna, which is where most of the UN's higher ups would probably flee to if Earth was leveled.
Indecision got the best of him. He’ll be feeling that one for the rest of his life
"Mars is losing this war" Then- "We had a 5 to one advantage, now it's 3 to 1" Sorento-Gillis is not a bad man, but he's not a very attentive man.
So they're basically the Earth Federation and Mars Zeon, but without any mobile suits?
I don't think mobile suits could work, not by the technology the suits have, but on how the Expanse's militaries work. They can hit targets beyond vision range.
@@WolfeSaber9933 even in close ranfe mobile suits would not work because ships in the expanse have a really accurate full 360 degree coverage when it comes to turrets, and as we see even the most armored ships get their hull pierced easily from whatever the fuck those turrets fire
@@Breadlootgoblin The MACs are powerful and the PDCs shoot 40mm.
@@WolfeSaber9933 also the torpedoes in this series are SUPER fucking powerful, i feel like they would be able to oneshot a covenant cruiser from HALO with ease, not only that but their tracking is super accurate, they're extremely fast, ships carry a LOT of them and it appears that they can also be programmed to detonate when they're close to the target, which means that a single ship could make quick work of mobile suits
@@Breadlootgoblin Tha may be true, but it takes 21 gigatons of tnt equivalent of a MAC projectile. And they have been know to shrug off 30 megaton bombs to the hull without shields. However they still have potential.
Beautiful show. It got a bit slow and silly but I still love it.
Best Sci-Fi TV this century.
I do really love expanse everything has been design with such detail
My fucking god, this whole sequence is brilliant.
The faint radio chatter in the background as they fire the railguns and have the malfunction really makes the scene for me.
If you want to nitpick on the scene there is no way the last platform could have being warned in time with just the 20-30sec delay of the last railgun, for what I understand those platforms where all around the solar system, communications among them would have take several minutes or hours, the only way they could have launched in time is if they detected the railgun fire on their own and in that case the railgun delay was irrelevant.
We can imagine that they "cut" most of the action. As the shell would takes several minutes to travel to their target and not seconds as show here. Thus, we can imagine that the last railgun actually took several minutes to fix itself and not just 30sec as in the show.
@@mrsupremegascon Yea they have to cut a lot of it because the shells travel time is an even bigger problem, communications travel at light speed but the shells are much slower, those would probably take days to reach the farthest target, they would have to shoot the railguns with hours in between to hit all the targets at approximately the same time.
This is an example of why you attack your enemies main weapons when an opportunity presents itself the longer one waits the worse things can get and more people will die as a result. Great episode though loved it
You could feel the tention in the room as the missile hit south america. Amazing show.
"It's Jaburo in this timeline too"