Opel Mokka 1.6CDTI 2016 Timing chain replacement + tensioner upgrade + gasket .
2021 ж. 5 Мау.
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By adding special gasket under timing chain tensioner you will get rid of timing chain rattle when starting the engine :)
By adding special gasket under timing chain tensioner you will get rid of timing chain rattle when starting the engine :)
I have a 23 year old mk4 Astra estate that I bought for scrap money in 2010 with a severely overheated engine . I fitted a cavalier 1.7td engine in the Astra and 13 years later that engine has 600,000 miles on it with original injectors , fuel pump and head gasket and is totally reliable . I cannot believe how bad modern cars have become .
It’s a absolute joke mate. Vauxhall have lost the plot with them terribly engineered engines.
In the old days, they made chains that actually worked.
Excellent in-depth video good job thanks
Gran trabajo, enhorabuena.
hello did you use a new modernized tensioner?
bravo...buon lavoro👍
Really good work
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my trax is this engine and I want to know where is the coolant drain plug is on at cylinder side. Pls let me know.
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Had this job done on my 1.6 cdti insignia
Why??? The chain is rated for life! 😮
@@AndreiTacu yes but it turned out that my tensioner was faulty causing my chain to rattle,so better be safe that sorry I had it all changed
Interesting video. Our Astra K oil pump chain snapped this weekend. We have the car from brand new and that awful rattle at start up hopefully will now be gone when we do the timing chain with the oil pump chain. But its a massive bill to foot but we outside warranty so no other option.
I’m sure it will work fine for you. Good luck 👍
How many km?
Only about 60k. Recently sold it and bought a new Astra L model@@z.a.2177
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Opel dealer ensure me the tensioner I got from them is the newest upgraded version (3rd version). However, without putting extra gasket timing chain will still make rattle when engine starting. After adding gasket under timing chain tensioner that problem completely disappeared .
thanks a lot.
Mogłem po Polsku zapytać :D
@@inngvarjonsson5547 😂😂😂👍
Where did you get the parts from do you have a phone number ?
@@sergiomonteiro218 Got my parts from local opel dealership
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Did the sprockets need changing ? Some kits don't have them, so was it necessary to do the whole kit or would the chain + guides and tensioner not have been enough?
In my case sprockets were fine, however, customer dictated to replace everything. All the pieces used for this job came from opel dealer as a individual parts.
a great starting point for not buying a car with that powertrain
HI we have had the chain replaced on ours now it starts and runs then cuts out. then struggles to start and will only run if foot is on the accelerator. Error Crankshaft position wrong rotation. changed sensor and pick up ring. Any ideas? thanks
Hello, By your description it look like timing might be slightly out. I suggest remove the rocker cover and put your timing locking tools to double check just to be on the safe side.
Hi With how much Nm did u screw in the screws from the tensioner?
It'll be real low, like 8-10Nm max
Buen diseño de motor, osea que para cambiar la cadena hay que quitar la caja de embrague,🎉.
Es fiable la cadena de distribucion del mokka 1600
А що це за пластмасовий штир, і на нього одягається масляний фільтр? Ця деталь обов'язкова?
Hello do you have any noise with that bearing in the dsg gearbox
Yes, before was changed, not after. 5th and 6th gear
Does the oil circuit of the variable distribution system have a filter, such as the fiat multiair?
I have question for yout another video with DSG dq250 - The coments are turn off :( . Please, the noice that gearbox did, was only on 5th gear, or on the 5th and 6th?
Hello, How far as I remember yes, 5th and 6th gear
@@kackac8277 thank you very much!
Hi, in Greece, where I live, they charge 1.700 euros in order to replace the chain. How does this sound ?
Hello. I believe this is price from opel main dealer and includes all chains, guides, tensioners, upgraded gaskets and labor.
I have an astra k 2016 1.6 110HP diesel, does this gasket fit this motor? I belive those are the same motors
Hello, More likely this is the same set up.
How many kilometers is this car? At how many kilometers is it recommended to change the chain on this engine? My Astra has 130k kilometers and I don't have this tensioner gasket, can I just put the gasket on without changing the chain?
Hello, Mokka was only 65k. Since new only short drives, and start/stop always on. This more likely cause chain to stretch quicker. you can put the gasket on the tensioner without removing the engine.
@@kackac8277 Thanks for the reply. I was told by Opel that the noise when starting was normal for this engine and not to worry. I was also told that there is no timing chain change interval (it changes when it rattles when the engine is warm). They also said that the tensioner gasket was recommended for the 110 horsepower engine and had no recommendation for my 136 engine
If you ad this gasket noise should disappear
J'ai le même moteur en 2014, comment savoir si la chaîne est usé ? Et sur une version 2014 faut il mettre le joint supplémentaires sur le tendeur hydraulique ? Merci
Hello. When you start your engine you will hear rattle noise for first few seconds and then disappears. You can add the gasket and modified tensioner and see will that help.
Does this gasket chain lubricate? it seems like it's giving oil to the opposite side of the chain. Or does it splash and grease the chain? Isn't the small hole on the gasket the lubrication channel?
Hello, I believe this gasket supposed to keep the oil in tensioner chamber. I also believe that little cut on the top of the gasket it is air release when oil pressure is filing oil channel .
@@kackac8277 Thanks a lot for the reply. I read that the small cut was to lubricate the chain. but I didn't understand how he lubricated the chain from there. if oil comes out of there at high pressure, will it reach the chain?
@@TheBluessoul I don’t think this is made to lubricates timing chain. That cut isn’t going in one line with timing chain so I can see how oil could reach timing chain coming out from there
@@kackac8277 if there's oil coming out of here, it's not just the timing chain, I understand that other parts of it are getting oil. Do you think if there is oil coming out of here, will it reach the chain? (my English is a little weak, sorry)
@@TheBluessoul I believe some part of oil coming out from there it will reach the chain but not directly. Upgrade on tensioner and also extra gasket it’s clearing the problem with chain rates .( of course if chain isn’t worn)
Hi.why need that black gasket? If I did not faund old.... 6.00 min.thanks
Hello, Gasket behind timing chain tensioner it is upgrade.
Czy jest możliwość montażu samej uszczelki napinacza bez wyciągania wtrysków itd a jedynie demontując EGR i górną pokrywę rozrzadu? ? Pacjent to Astra K z tym samym silnikiem.
Wydaje mi się , że to się nie uda. Demontaż : wtryski i pokrywa zaworów niestety raczej będą koniecznością , dodatkowo egr i górna , zazwyczaj mocno przyklejona pokrywa rozrządu .No i raczej przy tej samej okazji zmodyfikowany napinacz łańcucha rozrządu był by dobrą opcją. Jeśli autko ma większy przebieg to warto sprawdzić również klapę kierunkową spalin w chłodnicy egr. Niestety mają tendencje do urywania się. Pozdrawiam
Why not change the bottom chain as you are in that area,is the bottom chain less likely to fail?
Bottom Chain is a oil pump drive .
@@kackac8277 is that as likely to fail due to the tensioner like the to chain
Hello. What's the number of the new tensioner? Can you list al the numbers of the parts replaced please? Thank you
Hello, Sorry, it was over a year ago and I didn’t save part numbers. I know for sure tensioner I’ve used it was 3rd upgraded version.
@@kackac8277 no problem I understand. Does this also helps if chain rattles during driving. But not actually on start-up? Our car does it most of the time during driving when heating up. Stone cold nothing. En on temperature much less. But During warming up al The time. Its also rpm related approx around 2000rpm. Thanks
@@leminako I couldn’t hear any excessive noise from the timing chain while driving or even revving up no matter cold or warm engine. Only first start rattle it was my issue.
@@kackac8277 ok. Thank you for your reply's
Thanks Pro only 64.000 and this big problem what a mess
Bonjour , j'aimerais bien voir des vidéos sur les emplacements des pièces tel le turbo thermostat vanne egr et le fab sur l'Opel mokka merci .
C'est un vrai moteur de merde parle de mécano. Mmmh achete la rta
I need to do that to my 2016 Opel Insignia Sport CDTI, 1.6, 136hp, 100kw. How much is your cost. I really like it and do not want to get rid of it.
Way we’ve done it last time using OEM parts (3 years ago) total around €1800. I suggest replace tensioner and add the gasket before you decide to go to spend crazy money as my customer decided at the time.
Do you have a video on disassembly? Detailed? I’ve seen some. But I like your style and how you do it. Seems very clean and a pro!
@@Paulie3051 Unfortunately I don’t have full video,some shots only.
I’m pretty handy on these things. I’ll buy the tensioner and gasket. I’m sure with a knowledgeable friend we can figure it out. My other question to you is, when I disconnect the injectors and connectors, will I have to clear the codes again and set up I hectors with AUTEL OBD II reader?
Hej, czy możesz napisać jaki jest katalogowy nr.uszczelki pod napinacz o której piszesz że ważna czy trzeba kupić z napinaczem ? Pozdrawiam
Hej, 55515025 uszczelka pod napinacz.Nie występuje jako oficjalna część do tego silnika. Jest w katalogu części opla , ale „ NIEOFICJALNIE” . Pozdrawiam
@@kackac8277 Dzięki Twojemu filmikowi dziaiaj nabyłem taką uszczelke , 115 zł. w aso Dziękuję i Pozdrawiam
Cześć. Możesz podać namiary na Aso w którym ją dostałeś?
@@dominikbielawski9044 Ja stacjonuje w Irlandii i nabyłem uszczelkę u lokalnego dealer a opla
Hello my friend a question where is your garage?
Hello, Ireland Co Kerry
@@kackac8277 Very good your work, I live in mayo ireland, I'm looking for a mechanic to do this maintenance on my mokka
Come mai dopo il cambio della distribuzione si è presentato un forte sibilio? Qualcuno po' aiutarmi?
Which brand is the best for mokka?
Hard to say. I used OEM part’s at the time
Which serial number is on new tensioner?
Sorry, but I don’t remember. At the time when I were doing that job it supposed to be 3th upgraded version of tensioner released by opel
@@kackac8277 Thank you for your answer.
Just put GM - 555 15 025 And you'll never have a problem again, the engine doesn't have to be taken out to get to the chain tensioner.
@@nenad8649 to je kod samo za tu šajbicu / gasket? Jel dovoljno samo to staviti, ili bi valjalo i redizajnirani zatezač? Planiram kupiti takvu astru polovnjaču pa želim preventivno to riješiti pošto svi kažu da lanac ode s vremenom u racku, a posao je boli glava uzme ti bubreg mehaničar za lanac promjenit (sa pravom, 3 dana posla)
@@skyliner4610 Samo taj komad plastike
Moja zafira ma 260 tys. Przejechane na łańcuchu, jaki jest koszt wymiany rozrządu czesci plus robocizna ,plus całe sprzęgło
To zależy jak kompleksowa będzie ta wymiana. Niestety jest to dość kosztowna operacja . Jeśli doliczymy do tego sprzęgło i koło zamachowe to wyjdzie pokaźna kwota .
Mam insignie 1.6 cdti na zimnym silniku trochę słychać ten rozrząd , i po 2 min zupełnie nic samochód cichutko pracuje , czy to kwalifikuje się już do wymiany łańcucha? czy może poczekać aż zacznie hałasować na ciepłym? przebieg 140k
Przy rozrządzie na łańcuchu , jeśli już coś słychać to raczej bym nie czekał . Lepiej zapobiegać ewentualnym usterką . Pozdrawiam
@@kackac8277 dzięki za odpowiedz , czy przy wymianie rozrządu opłaca sie od razu wymienić sprzęgło + dwumase i zajrzeć do skrzyni biegów czy nic się tam nie dzieje?
@@yamillo7150 koło dwumasowe i sprzęgło zwykle wytrzymuje około 200k km. Wiadomo że jak wszystko jest rozebrane to można by to było zrobić przy okazji. Niestety , to jest spory dodatkowy koszt. Jeśli chodzi o skrzynie, to jak nie ma opiłków w spuszczanym z niej oleju , a biegi pracują ładnie to raczej bym tam nie zaglądał. Pozdrawiam
@@kackac8277 heh miałem dylemat czy wymieniać sprzęgło z rozrządem i wczoraj mi walnęło..:D nie dało się wbić w ogóle biegu.. auto na lawetę i do mechanika za 1 zamachem zrobię wszystko rozrząd + sprzęgło, mechanik powiedział , że za robotę weźmie około 2k PLN reszta kosztów to części które będę chciał sobie wymienić, aż przykro patrzeć jak nowe samochody się szybko psują..
how much of a job would that cost to do?
I done one same like this
@@dhruvrana1087 how much did it cost?
A me sembra che faccia rumore ancora il tendicatena
WOW, great job you're very skilled and must have a memory like an Elephant, how much would a job like this cost...
In Bulgaria around 1800 EUR and more
A quanti km va cambiata ?
Non è specificato. Dipende dalle condizioni di utilizzo. In questo esemplare il problema si presentava già a 60k km
Looks like it was really bad choice by Opel to put the camchain on the gearbox side.
i dont have a startup rattle, and i dont even have this new gasket ... the key is to put the right oil to the engine, 0w20, and dont use it on short trips. And avoid those fuel additives and cheap diesel ...
Why 0w20 when the 5w30 is recommended for this engine? Is it thinner?
@@FlyingNitro1990 ask your local dealer, for months Opel has changed the recommended oil to 0w20. And yes, its thinner, oil moves faster and the pressure builds up faster. And since you have an oil-cooler the hot summers are no problem with this oil, and in winter it performs much better than 5w30
@@johnnyhun1 Which brand of 0w20 do you use? Can you specify oil brand name or send me a picture of a bottle that you use?
@@FlyingNitro1990 total quartz ineo x ec5 0w20
johnnyhun1 Opel recommend 5W30 for 1.6 CDTI engines up to 2018
Whats the music?
Not sure. Something I got from iMovie app on my iPhone
Jaki do Was adres? Bo w przyszłości będę miał pacjenta do wymiany rozrządu
Irlandia , Co Kerry
Quanto costa un lavoro fatto così?
3000 euros
Hi what the price for this job
Hello, Sorry, can’t answer that question. Depending on where are you situated. Different regions, different prices…
@Arkadiusz Trybus Am from Longford Town I have the little noisy in the morning from timing chain I don't know how much cost the laber
@@florinamicula7359 I am from Co Kerry . Labor alone on this job was €870+vat
@Arkadiusz Trybus Ah that's great thanks
64тыс проехал и замена цепи? Это точно цепь?
Сама цепь была не очень растянута, но я был обеспокоен тем, что направляющие цепи могут быть повреждены. Самой важной деталью была эта дополнительная прокладка для натяжителя ГРМ.
@@kackac8277 Натяжитель цепи можно поменять без демонтажа мотора, коробки и форсунок. Для этого снимаем охладитель EGR и отдавливаем боковую крышку. Если натяжитель вышел не сильно, то очевидно, что успокоители не посрывало. Цепь там крепкая, рвёт успокоители из-за конструктивного просчета с натяжителем.
@@user-xu9zr1jz4i и на каком пробеге стоит переживать по вашему ? Лично у меня 115000 пробег
@@dmytrostanitsky637 Знаю случаи, когда порвало цепь маслонасоса обломками успокоителя на 120000. Машина приехала с Европы уже с поломкой и там была судя по салону городская эксплуатация. Важен больше не пробег, а моточасы и режим эксплуатации. У любителей крутить мотор цепь более нагружена.
@@user-xu9zr1jz4i Ну у нас 90% езды это Тараса. А подскажите плс какие симптомы могут быть что бы лишний нас не лесть туда. У меня есть шум цепи только при старте с утра до 5 секунд…. Спасибо
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Let’s use oil flushing! If this liquid can remove the ash on the check valve of tensioner. It will fix the problem I hope.
Unfortunately I don’t think flushing will help it. It looks like this is down to the design of the oil chamber behind the tensioner. It takes a good bit of time to fill up with oil after engine starting.
@@kackac8277 Do you agree with all the problem starts from tensioner’s malfuction?(I think so). Then what do you think that break the tensioner? If this happen by the ash or carbon then I will try to eliminate that.
@@fiberkim4443 Opel already upgrade this tensioner design and how far as I know they did it more than once. This will suggest they knew about the problem. I have to say, the engine I’ve been working on, there was no sign of any carbon building up. At the same time I have to highlight this particular vehicle was only 60k km and one owner from new + always service in time. Behind timing chain tensioner there is a big chamber. I believe after switching engine off , oil is running back to oil channel. During next engine start , all air need to be pushed out from the chamber before tensioner get some oil feed. Gasket I use it’s really helping with that. First of all is not letting all oil to return back to the oil channel and second thing is ,small cut in upper part of the gasket helps removing air from the oil chamber.
@@kackac8277 thank you for the detailed explain. But I still want to find out why it break at some point. Specific reason. Whether it’s spring or the ash on the check valve’s move. kzhead.info/sun/it2So8uSbHmCi3A/bejne.html
@@kackac8277 Thank you now I got understand what you are saying
Podrían haber escondido más la cadenita de los cojones, eso le va a salir barato al cliente.
Gasket is the same febi 181945
Выровнять надо музыку на фоне то тихо то орет
Mecanica tipica alemanaen costa rica por este trabajo te cobran 800 dolares
The engine designer had lost all his mind !!!! ???
Many manufacturers is doing this that way now :(
Not a job for the faint hearted
😂
Vauxhall 1.6 ecoflex the worst engine ever made..it's recommended to replace the timing chain 6 year or 100000 miles wteva come first..and it's quite costly..
Great video but the music is just so annoying. Please, just don't add any next time. It's infuriating.
Nice video but crapy music
Next time I will try pick better music 👍
First BMW i think, put the timing chain at the wrong side of engine,now opel make's the same mistake!! Bullshits made in Germany.
Mercedes also is doing this. Now Toyota cars are run by BMW engines , so it means this same procedure.
Nasi tu byli
😂😂😂
What idiot thought that would be a great design? “Shall we put the timing chain in an easily accessible spot?” “Nah, let’s bury it next to the gearbox!”
Vauxhall is just a joke . to replace a timing chain u have to remove the engine. I wish atleast it was mercedes some other high end cars
Opel cheats and scams original tensioner failure, mine Mokka 1.3 cdti 1600 automatic 2016 87000 km. €2600 all distribution, Nadir should buy Opel, everyone to complain to Opel
Its not a good motor
LH7 diesel is a great “engine” actually.
Can the stupid music.
such an ugly small car xD Why even bother fixing it, not worth it
Still not uglier then you xD
man, this music is annoying as hell
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