Charles III: the last King of England? | The New Statesman podcast
The Kate Middleton conspiracies prove Britain's addiction to the monarchy is in crisis.
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The British royal family was in crisis even before Queen Elizabeth II died, and King Charles III and the Princess of Wales both became ill with cancer. The public reaction to Kate Middleton's cancer news and the conspiracies surrounding her absence demonstrate our perverse relationship to royalty.
"We are torturing them with our attention," says Tanya Gold, author of the New Statesman cover story "The Fragile Crown". She joins Chris Stone on the New Statesman podcast.
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Was Queen Elizabeth II really perfect?? Or did she turn a blind eye all too often, I wonder?
As monarch, she could have ended all of the rivalries, but instead chose to turn a blind eye and allow the foolishness to exacerbate. She was a passive leader in name only.
The country and the world weren't in a good place when she passed away - the former wasn't entirely her fault and the latter was beyond her control - but it's become increasingly clear over the past 19 months that she didn't prepare her beloved 'Firm' very well at all for coping after her demise. So no, of course she wasn't perfect.
@@oliverraven The state of the world has absolutely nothing to do with her ability to parent/lead/put her foot down on the individuals within her own family. Your explanation is trying to absolve her of accountability. Real leaders/monarchs do not have that luxury. They are accountable for EVERYTHING that happens during their reign. Heavy is the head that wears the crown (in theory).
@@seanjones5682agree. She really made HUGE error on creating Andrew problem. Because, he is her creation, she allowed him too much, and she covered even reword him for his actions. So, the most dangerous thing for monarchy now is her doing.
NO she was not perfect...she lived in a sham marriage and expected the british people to look up to her and Philip as a perfgect married couple where behind the scenes he had multiple mistresses, illegitimate children, was a drunk going to brothels! she psychologically damaged Charles, Andrew and Edward (Anne survived) by her cold ways where she put HERSELF and the COUNTRY first...she should never have had children because as a mother she failed with showing love! even Charles himself wrote this in the Dimbleby book in the mid 90''s that his mother was cold, distant and his father was nothing but a bully!
Keep in mind that the Royal family is a business and the king is the CEO
End public funding for super-wealthy people - they can keep the titles, but fund your own lifestyle.
And get rid of their constitutional power too… let’s elect our Head of State. You only have to look around Europe and see that even countries who elect loonies as the Head of Government are quite happy to elect dignified and inspiring Heads of State, perhaps to compensate!
So you think they should keep the Crown estate income but receive no royal grant? You realise that would cost the taxpayer?
@@danielwebb8402 Make the royals pay tax.
Agree , but also don’t use any of their own money to help others, simply really.
@@danielwebb8402 please explain
11:12 Time to process grief ? How many millions of his subjects live in poverty and get up to go to work at 6am and can't afford any time off work to " process their grief " because their mum died because they have rent to pay and kids to feed ? How many thousands of their subjects won't have cancer diagnosed after super prompt medical attention but die of cancer undiagnosed while they were on two year NHS waiting lists for surgery. Why should subjects put up with that inequality simply because of an accident of birth ?
Spot on
She's Out Of Her Mind, she hasn't a clue.
Your absolutely spot on …
WELL SAID!
Rubbish, what have you done for your country apart from moan
Two words which terrify the royal family. "Inheritance tax".
Add Corporation and business taxes to Charles´s terror.
It terrifies me too just quietly, and I don’t have anything near as much as they do.
@anapantelic517 yes but you have to pay it, he doesn't
@@jonathangratus233 Yes, I’m aware of that.
When the Royal family stop getting so rich on taxpayer’s money and start paying taxes that the rest of us have to pay, then maybe I will feel warmer towards them.
"Treat people the way you want to be treated", yes? 24/7 news, smartphones, and social media are contributing to the decline of our collective humanity.
It's weird how the happiness of a few people is put above the stability of the country.
If happiness were depicted by wealth and power, the rich and powerful would be dancing in the streets, but it is the poor who are more likely to do this. I also believe that stability is more likely from an experienced monarchy than from one president or another which would cost just as much and not help British businesses and charities half as much.
@@wendyturney8914 - Americans vote in a President - yes we have had trump - and the good news is that they can be voted OUT by the voters after four years and can only run for two terms.
One reason offered for Kathrine's announcement was that her health records were breached at the hospital.
If you don't want them, at least a dozen Commonwealth countries can and will take them, then Britain can be part of their Commonwealth because who else is going to bother with Britain without it's Monarchy?
Don’t know of any that want this entitled evil
Take a poll and you’ll find they still have a lot of appeal. Get rid of them and Britain is nothing. Brexit would be a doddle compared to extricating from the monarchy and whoever disputes it better start really looking into the realities of how we would be with a political head changing every four years, trump is a good example of sometimes the devil you know is better than one you don’t.
Good idea ... they must also pay for their support and all provide the level of security and lavish lifestyle!!
@@Daisy-tl2lh of course they can afford it, Britain is by no means the most prosperous part of the Commonwealth. Britain is broke
@@carollandosky9991 I don't know any that don't. We could vote in a president like putin, Trump, Kim Jong Un or Xi Jinping if that's what people want who would end up with massive wealth (like those above) and we would be wrong in thinking they would cost us any less (Carrie Johnson spent thousands on redecorating No 10). British business and charities would lose so much money.
Is it the same in other countries? It seems as if the other European royals don’t have to go through as much as the British, but I could be wrong. Another way to look at it though is..they get a hounded, if they choose to read the garage, but they also get to live in palaces, drip in jewels, fly in helicopters and wear clothes that are worth a normal persons car or house. I wouldn’t cry too much for them.
They’ve been put into place. The Dutch royals bike their kids to school. It’s only the Brits who GROVEL.
The other royal houses cost "only" 50 million sterling to maintain. The British Royals cost 500 million.
I found this interesting. This institution cannot continue. As a country we have to grow up.
Better Windsors than Trumps, Johnsons etc as "royals" 😅
@@deadandburied7626that is a very odd comparison. The UK should not be compared with the USA 😂
@@risingphoenix8072 Who do you want to be compared to?
Well said point blank on the facts.
Why did Andrew retain his security despite costing them £12 million under very shameful disgraceful situation BUT THE SUSSEXES FOR SINGLED OUT FOR AN OPPRESDIVE DISCRIMINATORY TREATMENT. THINK RACE
The older generation was taught to sing and praise the Queen and to grieve for members of the royal family when they passed away... The younger generation questions more, and see the indifference.
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Agreed. We are no longer brainwashed to worship a dysfunctional royal family.
or maybe mind to their own bloody business and behave like human beings for any other human being (even if they're royalty) not too emotional and not too cold. instead of rambling cringe cliches
@@user-qd8md4tq1q Thankfully the younger generation isn't being brainwashed into loving the royals.
Expecting others to present themselves immaculately, and tearing them apart when they don't - is this not getting to the core of the British psyche?
Exactly!!The British people will support the underdog until they become successful, then they turn round and tear them down. It’s been demonstrated many many times. 😢
@@gwendolinelindsay4647 I think our uniquely malevolent tabloid media has done a lot to shape British public attitudes, mostly for the worst.
Too many like sheep still look that way, the Media for guidance, without looking at the source of the influence. Puppets.
@@gwendolinelindsay4647 I wonder if ‘Tall Poppy’ syndrome has something to do with it. We in Australia, are not unfamiliar with it either.
The woman said: 14:21 that Harry should hand in his title. Does she not know that Harry offered to give back his title? ***That said... giving back the title of Duke is nothing - Harry will always be a Prince and a Prince will always outrank the title of a Duke***
Does it MATTER? To the Royals, the crowns, titles, who wore what piece of jewelry is EVERYTHING. I doubt if it all is to Harry anymore - no Royal who was greedy (like Andrew) would EVER have risked losing it and leaving. Most do whatever they must to even GET IN the family, they would never leave it. Harry and children are Royal heirs and that shall never change.
No he never liar😂
DNA tests are required.
Old Megsy would leave h without the Duchess title.
@@sandyno1089 you know her, do you?
I have never dreamt of any member of the royal family, the treatment of their wives has been appalling and cruel and probably set the tone of how many men treat their wives in this country.
She was speaking about how PUBLIC treats women in that family.
@@MaliKamicak but even so, if the men really cared about their wives they would stand up for them publicly, not allow them to be abused by the British media then the public
Me either. They really are more like celebrities, albeit preeminent ones in our modern day. Nobody wants to admit it but only the very elder monarchists and elites look on the RF as people nearly Godlike.
@@roseanncampbell3168 Well I think I treated my wife well. At this moment I miss her so much, I cannot say!
@@captaintorch983 sorry for your loss. I'm sure you treated your wife well, but the men in the royal family don't treat their wives well except to pose in public
Inherited political power and wealth should not be granted by a democratic country.
Is Mr Bliar included?
@@stephenholmes1036 Blair had an annual salary of £147,819. Charles has an annual payment from the Duchy of Cornwall of approximately £20 million.
Firstly constitutional monarchs have no political power. Secondly the Duchy of Cornwall refers to his estates in that county and the money referred to is revenue from those estates. He inherited those estates, he owns them. So there is no inherited political power, and we all, including you, have the right to inherit property from our parents, or would you rather you were the only one, and everyone else was denied?
@@anapantelic517 what you said just proves my point. If I inherited that volume of property from my parents I would have to pay vast sums of inheritance tax. Charles legally pays none.
@@RR-sp3ey It doesn’t actually prove your point. You were saying he shouldn’t inherit, while you had no problem with your right to inherit. Your problem seems to be with his not paying inheritance taxes, while you are obliged to, like it or not. Though luck, I’m in the same boat as you. In this world there is something we have to get used to, which is, we were all created equal, but that some are more equal than others. They are “some” and we are “others”. I have found that if you don’t think about what you can’t change, the less it hurts.
Poor Royal billionaires boo hoo. 😢
The poor royal murderes😂😂😂😂
Well said. Princess Margaret's children do have titles but not royal ones.
Investigations into Russian money continues into the aristocratic levels in Britain.
I don't support a particular political system, I support good honest honourable men and women wherever they are to be found. All systems would work if given support and the country is put first.
Zero sympathy from this Irishman. Hunger, poverty, internment, racism and opression are far worse.
Russia and China didn't have any of those bad things once they got rid of their monarchs.
@@georgesdelatour non-Russian countries that were once part of Soviet union, will laugh at you and curse you upon reading this
@@georgesdelatour delusional
I have never, in my life, dreamt about any member of the Royal Family. How ridiculous. I do object to being labelled a 'subject'. I emigrated 40+ years ago, not so much because of the monarchy, but because of the repressive tax system (1 for you 19 for me) at the time followed on by the ever creeping and Orwellian intrusions from camera to legal limitations being put upon fundamental freedoms. The country can be summed up by the results from the introduction of the 1989 Water Privatization Act: A Sh!thöle.
Where did you emigrate to?
Nor have I ever had a dream in which any member of that family has featured.
Oui cette Monarchie est maudite depuis le mariage de Charles avec sa maitresse après la mort de Diana épouse bafouée S il est vrai que charles et camilla etaient fous amoureux pourquoi ne pas divorcer au lieu d un mariage à trois Pourquoi charles etant amoureux d une autre a accepté de se marier et apres faire souffrir sa femme Je disais donc il y a une malédiction car charles et camilla vivent dans le péché car ils ont commis l adultère se sont mariés et charles est pourtant chef de l Eglise chose qui est totalement à l'encontre du règlement Depuis la mort de la Reine Elizabeth les langues se delient les britanniques sensés disent ce qu ils pensent et sont scandalisés par ce qui se passe C est la Reine qui gerait tous ses sujets Il y a des lois feodales complètement désuètes et qui ne correspondent plus au 21eme siecle Mais bon c est aux britanniques de decidet de leur sort Si ils veulent envore payer pour des gens qui ne servent rien pour le peuple C est mon avis
Too many people are suffering because of austerity and other political measures-a situation ripe for revolution. We are well beyond the divine right of kings and social deference. Land of Hope and Glory does not compensate for “heat or eat” when the Royal family bask in unearned luxury.
UK is a constitutional monarchy - the king has no real power inmaking laws!
Get together and vote in much better representatives from your districts! What's wrong with you all? The Royal Family does NOT make laws!
The United Kingdom has a Constitutional Monarchy, it is centuries beyond any "Divine Right of Kings"....the UK is not "ripe for revolution" though some Marxists may well dream, for lack of any constructive project at hand...the greed and corruption of private companies controlling power and fuel are the public enemies you need to wake up to ! THEY are the ones pushing some to choose between "heat or eat".....the oil barons of BP for example....not little Princess Charlotte or her some would say "sadly destined" older brother.
@@theonlymeaningunofficially I would say the RF has influence…money and power talk
Well said
(To coin a phrase)Crisis, what crisis?. Nobody talks about the monarchy except journalists. I challenge anyone to tell me the last time someone raised this subject without prompting. Most people are indifferent to the Monarchy. Admittedly, I live just outside Liverpool, which has been called the outermost suburb of Dublin.
The Duke of Edinburgh's Award Scheme and The Prince's Trust are only two examples of organisations/trusts which have helped literally thousands of young people into careers, decent lives or interests. The participants probably don't talk about the monarchy, as you rightly say, but their influence is important and I doubt if a Head of State would do these things. I don't think a HofS would be able to generate so much income for charity or British business either as hopefully they would be too busy with government duties.
Pretty sure it's the monarchy's relationship with the people of the UK that's in crisis not the other way around
"They all left" talking about the crowns of Europe after the First World War. Of the top of my head I can think of some European royal houses that were then and still are supplying the heads of state of Norway, Denmark, Sweden, The Netherlands, Belgium, Spain. There may be some that survived WWI but disappeared during the following 100 years. Italy and Greece come to mind.
Very accurate description of the RF and the relationship they have with the media.
Fairly sure I never dreamt about Elizabeth or any other member of the royal family
You probably will now 🤣🤣
She repreented an old institution with a rotten history.
Like our left wing middle class then?
very true , who aren't Anglo Saxon .
@@stephenholmes1036😂😂😂 is this all you have? It’s over.
I imagine that almost all of us have ancestors who have done things we would not be proud of.
It was queen Elizabeth choice: for Harry and his wife to either serve full-time or not at all.y thought it was a bully technique. Then the nasty press (including Peirce Morgan) treating Harry as he hurt the queen, Harry could do no right. Thanks for being fair.
According to Spare, the PC and PW made that decision, along with the bee, the wasp and the fly.
The Queen made that decision Her word was it. The Queen asked Harry to Balmoral before she died ,and he said he was too busy. We all knew she wouldn't last long. But he couldn't make the time. Then all the fuss when she died because Megan wanted to go. So he misses the plane.
@@carolamsterdam9558is the monarchy not supposed to be the head??? Or is it the bees, the wasps along with the flies?
@@user-xk3hk4xt5iwhat is “…the Queen asked Harry to Balmoral before she died, and he said he was too busy???”
@user-xk3hk4xt5i: That is a lie. The queen invited Harry and Meghan to Balmoral while they were still living in England. Harry & Meghan were all set to go when they received a call from the queen's assistant telling them NOT to come because the queen's schedule would not permit it. The assistant canceled the invitation. Get your story straight.
We need the lands and properties to be returned to the People from the duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster on their way out.
Since Meghans ancestors on her dad's side are British and descended from the very ruler that created the Dutchy of Wales. So by rights Meghan should be their princess and the income. The lot of it. Hrh Meghan princess of Wales and Nigeria. Looks like she may be princess of all of Africa.
Who ARE these bloody people ? WHAT are these bloody people ? ? WHY are these bloody people ? ? ?
The monarchy went with the passing of Queen Elizabeth.
Ought to have ended it on a high note
We have entered Jumped the Shark territory of the monarchy...
And very few people noticed it...
The monarchy will last for generations yet, long into the future. There's no way we are anywhere close to the political reality of becoming a republic.
"Her Majesty" if you don't mind!
Its Talk TV show and GB news bullying Meghan the worst just my opinion
Some people just hate the truth 🤐
The only one doing the bullying is Megan. Her behavior was appauling,rude abrassive and bossy Harry 's behavior got worse after he married Mehan
@@user-bv6rn5hp7pReally. Piers bullied her every single day on national TV. As well as well tabloids. The hate campaign started way before they left. She got death threats before & after the wedding. Her baby depicted as a chimp on the front page of a national newspaper. You have to feel it to know it. Leaking from the palace. Who made who cry. Tiaragate.
@user-bv6rn5hp7p The trolling ‘ bullying of Megan is pathetic and the world is disgusted by it! To treat Andrew better than Megan shows the racism. Harry & Megan cost the taxpayers nothing and they are living their best life but when you only read the Daily Fail you wouldn’t know that. Why would Harry want to be around his Dad’s mistress who made his mother’s life a misery? Why are you not bothered about where Kate is?
@@user-bv6rn5hp7pTotally agree. A lot of people choose not to pay attention to her toxic behaviour which I find extremely worrying.
What annoys many people is that they don't have to wait in the NHS queue for treatment like everyone else.
So neither does Jane Mc Donald or Angela RIppon and millions of other people - Thats how it is for all people with a bit of cash - Guess we would all do the same - So i dont get your point really
I’m a royal fan…of King Harold. This lot came over in 1066 and stole the lot.
Exactly ❤that are thieves…research the Russian cousins and their jewels…who got them and how
Not implanted by foreign bankers?
I think one of the things the made Queen Elizabeth good at her job was that she was a a young woman during WW II. I recently had the thought that Harry, probably subconsciously, chose Megan to provide an out! You’re the only person I’ve heard say this.
NO it was because all anyone had were the news! media under queens rule
queen gave the go ahead for dines unalived! shewas after all dating a muslim
Yes the UK media did bully Meghan.😢😢😢
@lakiva1000 NO they did not I am from the UK the Media were more than welcoming to MM so stop spreading Fake information people that spread melicous lies destroy the world wide web.
NO they didnt
The fact that UK media treated her and Harry as more problematic than Prince Andrew who was close to Jeffrey Epstein and was allegedly part of his sex trafficking ring. And they wonder why the younger generation don't respect the Royal family.
@@kirstenandreasen908Yes they did.
Britain absolutely did! SHAME ‼️
One law for them, one law for us. Sorry pay them off, they've all got to go.
Whoever replaced them, whoever and/or whatever, nothing but the amount of money they brought into the country would change. It was worse under Oliver Cromwell, and people soon welcomed the return of the monarchy. Read up on it. Look as well at today’s government. It’s not doing too well, and chances are that the monarchy would be replaced by some corrupt politician. Do you want that, because it’s what you would get. As for paying them off as you suggest….. come in out of the sun.
in my opinion belief in the monarchy is one of the things holding britain back...
Strange, that monarchy doesn't seem to hold Norway or Denmark back.
lets have johnson instead.
@@jmolofsson - i wasn't talking about norway or denmark, strange that...
@@user-fg8it6kp3e - the troll is back in town...
@@23merlino stating the obvious hun.
I think William will be the last king. Once he becomes king more and more people will simply realise that a monarchy is basically undemocratic and pointless. The point of the British monarchy is to preserve the status-quo for the establishment, to ensure that the rich stay rich and get richer, while the rest of us have fewer and fewer rights.
Exactly
What are your views based on?
How popular is he in uk? I live in germany.
@@talentvarvara8515Very popular
I hope he doesn't make it - he will be a useless King.
Kates shoulders grew despite her cancer diagnosis which is hopeful, I suppose.
In that video in the striped sweater her hair grew about 5 inches in less than 3 months
@@margarettaft2944 That video was an IA - not real ...
@@snezc6845 correct. pretty incompetent job too, as if someone either wanted us to know there was more to the story...OR...they were contemptuous of the general public to do a proper job.
the queen is dead! now end the monarchy
They could have ended it on a high.
Exactly none of the others are needed now, should let the era end already.
Well said.
@@Purple_flower09 Yes, old Charley is a wet fish.
But we still live in a democracy and most of us don't want to. Everyone has a right to their views so if you don't like them, you don't have to follow their news.
Harry is definitely happy NOW. He is always smiling, and laughing while hanging with his FAMILY! Then again he LEFT THE RF!
They spend so much time with their children lol lol lol lol Couple of grifters.
@@veronicanicholls7132 - working parents are smart when they can choose their own professional path and spend time with their children. It is called being an adult!
He almost always looks moody, and angry, when I've seen him. I think someone had serious words with him, before the Nigerian Fake Royal Tour, because it's the first time I've seen him smile, for a long time. They are constantly, and aggressively competing with the Royal Family, at every turn, and do their very best to try and ruin all the big Royal Events of the year. That doesn't smack of being happy, to me. Quite the reverse. Angry, bitter, and deluded, is what I see.
@diane4488 lyer!!! Or you talking about Willie?
I'm happy Harry is living finally out of the miserable clutches of the so called RF! He is the smart one, and happiest Wills is the one who looks so dreadfully miserable and becoming a drunkard!
You really need to re-read "Spare". Harry did NOT say he "loved" being shot at. He was told by WIlliam and the two other kids that if he didn't get in the car and go now, they would start shooting at him right there. That's how twisted it was. You also need to go back regarding the timeline for Diana and read/hear Diana's comments LONG before the Bashir interview. She felt she was being "watched" -- which was correct as we now know from the phone-hacking, tracking, blagging--not to mention the "men in gray suits" that has come to light. However, at the time, she was labeled as "paranoid" to discredit her valid-- and eventually lethal-- concerns.
There is much more to that story then the public could possibly imagine. Please do not believe all from especially Meghan and Harry. They are far from innocent in their methods and intentions. Many around Diana understood other secrets that ought to have not been covered up to such extremes and for history to repeat - not for Meghan but for another whom Meghan had serious stalking, bullying, and harassing patterns since childhood. They remained sticking to old patterns of dark methods to maintain their gains and fraud whilst rebranding and hoping to win interest through machine that they have both always abused. Most of what does resonate with public is actually being sourced from supply that has been trauma bonded and manipulated in the highest ways imaginable.
Well articulated analysis of what I've thought for years... I once met the Duke of Edinburgh (Philip), on our school playing field. (We were doing a "Duke of Edinburgh Awards thingamajig") He only showed interest in the prettiest female of our particular group. (I guess he was 50 plus, as it was around 1978, whilst our particular group were around 15 at the time). I assume the "alleged" misdeeds of his second son were inherited from his own "alleged" partiality for young "nymphs", learnt from his uncle, Louis Mountbatten. The list goes on... I've always been skeptical of an institution that requires that we are referred to as "subjects". These people are just as human as the rest of us [and] often are no better, living off wealth and privilege. It's about time the monarchy was "put out to pasture". Unfortunately, like Tanya Gold suggests, it's going to take a real crisis before the British public wakes up to the reality. As for Harry, I think she's right in saying he showed courage in publicly holding their collective feet to the fire! I haven't read "Spare", however. I don't think there's anyone I could hate more than Piers Morgan who is apparently on a sycophantic "royalist" crusade to bash the "Sussexes", so I'll always be on Harry's side, even if that doesn't make me popular with the majority of "Union Jack" wavers. It may explain that I've chosen to live in Kenya (and don't really relish the thought of moving back to the UK right now).
Love Kenya and Kenyans.
Well said. And what about the fact that Mountbatten advised a young Prince Charles to play the field but to marry a virgin! Hence Diana comes in and you know the rest. Tampaxgate etc. What a shower. Once a monarch is crowned he/she is divine. They should go.
@@susanallison5101 No one thinks that King Charles is divine, nor are they required to think so. You’re thinking of Communist North Korea, where the Kim family have become deities.
I don’t believe Prince Phillip stepped out on the Queen, tell me when and which who me??🇦🇺
@@susanallison5101That’s how it was then very old fashioned,, it’s certainly not like that now even the royals have paved their own paths as far as marriage is concerned?🇦🇺
Absolutely outstanding even by the NS's KZhead Standards. Tanya expresses so well what a lot of educated and progressive Britons feel. I suspect the time has come to do something about it.
Try looking at real problems and not just attacking the monarchy. obviously you will be happier when there are more muslim. leaders like the one shouting alluah akabad in Leeds. . There are enough warnings that this is the way we are heading.
Jane - This is supposed to be an opportunity to comment on the item discussed which I did. Frankly, if you do not think it is a relevant issue take that up with NS not me. Inferring that I hold the views you impute to me on another issue is simply wrong and it is rude.
Harry was tortured when he had to walk behind his dead mother.
Both boys were used to prevent an enraged public from booing Charlres. It was a shameful thing to do to them.
Very selective. Oh poor King Edward ! Never mind the fact him and his awful wife were facist sympathisers ! Thak God he was put under pressure to pack it in.
The essayist appears not to know how the title thing works. Under the British system, titles are passed down through the male line, not the female (exception being a Queen). Therefore, it's not the case that Margaret's children have no title because of her intervention. Upon their marriage, her husband was offered an earldom, and he took it, so her children are titled. Her son is the Earl of Snowdon, and her daughter is Lady Sarah. In the case of Princess Anne, her husband was offered a title upon their marriage, but he declined it. So, because he is untitled, there were no titles to convey to his children. This is the reason why Anne's children are untitled.
Titles!!! What nonsense titles are !!! Your Majesty!!! Seriously??? Your Highness???? No human is higher than another human. We are all trying to cope with life on our overcrowded, lonely planet - the only inhabited planet we know of. We are in an utterly weird situation. We're more self-aware than all the other living things on this planet but we have to create meanings for ourselves to help motivate ourselves. The idea of a monarchy served the rich and powerful very well but is outdated now.
They missed a trick by not acquiescing to Harry and Meghan wishes. For good or for ill, they would have ensured interest in the royal family for another generation. Meghan represented a new era - modernity - and would have happily played the role of the celebrity royal. The other family members seem stilted and old fashioned in comparison and no one under the age of 30-ish has any reason - or desire - to invest in them. Without Meghan, the royal family is facing (barely) managed decline and the point of obsolescence could materialise far sooner than many imagine.
Exactly. Being a person of color, Meghan would appeal to the Commonwealth, the majority of which are people of color. Meghan and Harry are charismatic and reportedly are both down to earth and mix well with a variety of people. Frankly, Meghan was an outsider who came in and did the job better than the dusty, must dull, and duller royals save Harry, so why have a royal family?The jealous royals couldn’t tolerate Meghan’s popularity and success, that, so they attacked her through the press.
Absolutely true. So self destructive and perverse
Amen. Diana could have held the interest of Millenials, Meghan could have held the interest of Millenials and Gen Z. Pure celebrity worship, of course, but it's true Chumbawumba is going to be right after all: goodbye to the Crown!
After Charles, all bets are off. And in two year time, president boris johnson. Sounds like a joke until it isn’t
The hostile British tabloid press just didn't like Meghan and looked for dirt on her at every given opportunity. The RF didn't support her or contradict the lies printed because they were afraid the press would eventually turn on them - risking the entire institution.
Thank you for saying that; that Harry's book is really a whistleblower's report. Spot on.
The Royal Family PR has done an amazing job of painting him as the villain
Harry forever! ❤
@deadandburied7626 I agree 👍 💯. He's the most normal,relatable, and down to earth out of the clan.
He's a real whistle-blower. Wonderful description.
@@nc8939truth teller, he is. 👍🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Seems like someone has cancelled me, because I had the temerity to object to the Monarchy?
There's certainly been a huge change in dynamic since the queen's death, although Elizabeth had no choice about becoming queen she embraced it to the hilt. The 1950's was a time when most women's ambitions were quashed and they had to return to the kitchen and go back to being housewives after the relative freedoms and opportunities during WW2. Elizabeth jumped at the chance to have a career and travel the world, becoming queen gave her an enormous amount of freedom for the time. For prince Charles the opposite was true, he's spent most of his adult life in the queen's shadow. By all accounts he had a miserable childhood spent mostly in boarding schools, he was then forced into military service which he hated and while his contemporaries went off and forged their own careers he knew he had no choice in the matter. So for Charles royalty has been a straight jacket and we had glimpses of his frustration with the whole palaver during the coronation. Whether the royal family survives beyond William and Kate is hard to say, it does feel increasingly irrelevant especially to younger people. The whole situation with "photoshop gate" also gave Wills and Kate a taste of how quickly the media can turn nasty, it'll definitely leave a bad taste in the mouth and like Harry, they could well decide one day, it isn't worth the hassle..
Harry hasn't been "worth the hassle". He's an empty suit.
Harry courageously left the royals nonsense behind and claimed his right to freedom. I hope that William and Catherine will do the same. The facial expressions of their children show how they hate being on display like shop mannequins, just as we all would.
@@theonlymeaning - an “empty suit” (your words) does not deserve the brit gutter press, the brit gossip salivating public, the grey suited firm and family leaks, the royal sources, etc. throwing out slurs and lies about H. It is a national pastime of hate which we hope our children do not emulate. Thankfully the “suit” has chosen a better place!
I was quite ambivalent about the monarchy, however what's changed that is the vile treatment & daily bullying of Meghan by the British media & online trolls. I now would like to see the monarchy abolished!
It never will be, so get used to it. Even on this loony left site, there are comparatively few pro republican comments. Except from the author who is not British anyway, and is therefore irrelevant.
@@captaintorch983 I sense a note of desperation from you and your ilk. As Tanya said, the support for the monarchy from young people is minimal. It is only a matter of time...
@@captaintorch983 out of touch commenter, the monarchy will be gone in my lifetime!
@captaintorch983 lol...long before abolishment of the monarchy, comes indifference. That is what really scares the Royal Family. They know the state is on their side, however demographics mean they are becoming far less important & relevant to the British public as time goes by. The media know this too, hence the manic obsession with Harry & Meghan (fear) & their need to destroy them.
@SkeletonDrums1 maybe so, but they will become totally irrelevant to the British public. The BIGGEST thing that scares the Royals is indifference and this is the direction of travel.
Agree about Middleton family. He's a pilot - his mother was a code-breaker at Bletchley Park!
Michael Middleton wasn’t a pilot, he was a flight dispatcher.
He was not a pilot. Pls stop.
Does he not have a pilot 's license? HIS father not only was a pilot in the Royal Navy, he frequently piloted flights with the Duke of Edinburgh (Prince Philip).
Those sound like 2 useful jobs. Good on them! The idea that "important" people should just live off their investments and not do anything except wave at crowds of admirers - what a silly idea!
Hereditary monarchy stretched to the limits? The Scottish Stuarts, the Hanoverians, SaxeCoburgs .....
Isn’t it about time we called time on this outdated family. We’re not GREAT Britain anymore.
"Great Britain" always = a geographical expression. Nothing to do with power, might or exceptional qualties
😂
Would you rather have Sunack as a head of state! 🥹
@@HelenBain-th9nm no, there both useless.
cringe
Oh boo boo their lives are so hard. Give me a fvçking break
You’re in violent agreement then? 😂
Such a crock. Look at history for goodness sake! It’s no different to the things the royal family has been through for centuries!
Much overwrought handwringing here! This is the monarchy that George V built. A public, ribbon-cutting family on display. Maybe this is all one can expect in a modern, democratic age. But the function of monarchy was to protect and guide the nation - this is a political role with political functions. Britain doesn't want that, so George V's alternative is what you've got, and what that family has been performing for more than 100 years. So, you can't cry "torture" now. No, no.
Excellent point.
That was as wise and sober a description I have heard about England and the Royal Family I have heard.
Cancer? I thought the Palast now claims Crohn’s disease!!!
If only this interview got more attention. Tanya is 100% on the money
I believe the country dodged a large bullet with the Windsor character who was rather fond of the Nazis. I believe they were relieved to be able to get rid of him using Wallace's status.
Who knows - Maybe just maybe there would have been no World War 2
monarchy = Nazi. check their history closely. not british. they only threw Wallace and husband under the bus to keep people from getting at them. why was their name changed to WINDSOR?
William said within recent time that his mother was paranoid. Adult William said that. 🤔
William is the biggest liability in the royal family right now, assuming they keep Andrew out of sight.
Wow, obviously indoctrinated. Very disappointing
AND NOW HE WILL BE SAYING HIS WIFE IS
William is obviously an indoctrinated non believer. How disappointing.
For every victim there is at least one perpetrator, she was a victim, William should make some effort to recognize this, then point his finger at at the perpetrators and make sure he doesn’t become one himself.
I’m an American and I always commented on the Royals and that they are people just like us. They have marital arguments, they sit on the toilet the same way we did.They aren’t Angels from heaven. I believe that a lot happens in their lives and that they are more worried about presenting the Royals as perfect rather than real. I have seen Princess Catherine appearing so tired sometimes and I have commented On that and said she’s got 3 children as well. Family first and Royal first both are impossible. Sell the diamonds and solve hunger, homelessness, drug rehabs , aftercare, day care and take care of the poverty in Africa, Jamaica etc… I’m happy that King Charles is trying to modernize the Royals and have less waste. But history repeats itself and it has.
We could sell all these things to oligarchs and such people but it would solve hunger, homelessness, etc. very temporarily. It is unlikely, human nature being what it is, that we will ever have enough homes, drug therapy or money to solve poverty either here or abroad. Obviously we should try but the solutions have to be more than a quick fix. I could stand near a motorway and view hundreds of expensive vehicles and pass many huge expensive homes and know that British money is not evenly distributed but it will take all of us, not just the royal family, to solve it. Every major company has bosses that take millions in bonuses.
The price the royal people pay to hold on to their wealth and security.
What did the Queen (autocorrect always changes that to a capital Q) ever do for her 'subjects'. Women's position in society, child poverty, inequality etc, etc
O for God's sake, another loony! The monarch does not have to do anything for his or her subjects. In fact they are actively expected not to involve themselves in matters of state or governance.
@captaintorch983 thank you for the insult. I do understand constitutional monarchy but she could have shown some interest otherwise WHAT ARE THEY FOR? Will charles ride out at the head of his army in time of war? They are parasites
@captaintorch983 resort to insults and you've already lost the argument. I understand constitutional monarchy but they could show empathy occasionally. Come the day Charles rides out in front of his army, they might seem relevant otherwise just a load of parasites.
@@captaintorch983so what is their purpose then? They are not supposed to be actively involved… so they are a very expensive statue?? Even the President of Ireland who is a largely ceremonial Head of State makes (non partisan) commentary on important issues close to his heart without meddling in party politics and he costs the Irish about €5 million per year as opposed to Britains £80 million if you take the official figure though it is estimated to cost more… and what is even better about the Irish president, the people chose him and he can be impeached from office for offences as well!!
@@captaintorch983 - they have a privileged platform - not earned but handed to them on a tawdry silver platter - and will ‘speak up’ (!) during choreographed photo ops in order to be seen (as the queen would say) in the hope for some relevancy. There are other issues than “state or governance” which can be addressed.
No its not the same as Diana at all.Diana was bullied and hounded Katie was an object of worry and concern for her welfare.People are still worried and do not think the weird bench video was genuine.
Diana was murdered toooooo
When all is said and done this claptrap is the opinion and ramblings of one person. It’s not necessarily accurate or factual, and carries all the biases of that particular individual. Take it for what it’s worth… not a lot.
Time for the Royal Family to go.
President Farage or Rees-Mogg or worse is the problem though
@@davidalderson7761 whoever Murdock picks to promote in his rags
@@davidalderson7761 if that’s who the country want, currently we could get another Nazi sympathiser without any say in it. It was only the fact Edward married a divorcee that prevented it. Also, who says we need a presidential system? Why not have a head of state like Ireland, mainly ceremonial with a couple of constitutional safeguards. Take the proroguing of Parliament, an elected head of state could have told them no, it’s unconstitutional.
Way over time.
@@SkeletonDrums1 and that’s the problem of changing the way it is now. I would rather be stuck with what we have unfortunately.
Charles waits all his life to get a job and as soon as does, he puts his sick note in.😧
Robert... 😊😊😊😊.
He still greets presidents. Commonwealth reps Red boxes and much more. Hope you never get Cancer.
Rubbish I went to Balmoral it was nothing like that after the Queen died. There were even cute Corgis in the windows. The scenery was beautiful.
@@user-vl1tw4by3r Camilla you are a little bit biased. I hope that no one gets cancer, as well.
He'd be retired ....what would he continue working for? He'd be entitled to a jolly good pension, and he has his fine gardens and his water colouring to occupy his time. What a lovely man he is ...to stay as a King for his loyal subjects instead.😊
Surely there are more important things to focus our attention on than this.
Not until they’re gone
@@Kate-lk6twExactly! Let’s elect our Head of State and throw this backwards and elitist image into the history books!!
obviously and surely
The “focus” on some and not all members of the RF is important. The “focus” on the rabid brit press is important. The “focus” on the hypocrisy and lies and gossip is important. The “focus” on where that gossip comes from is important. The “focus” on the cozy complicit Firm/gutter press is important. After all the monarchy is a somewhat past due brit identity.
The RF has never regained their luster since Diana. As much as there has been an aggressive all out PR campaign really night and day to make William and Kate as big as she was, it’s not the same. They are popular but they are nothing like her. Bless them, nobody can be.
I agree. Certain members of the RF have revered status in the public mind, certainly the late Queen. However, the difference is that Diana was universally loved. I can think of no other member of the RF - now or long gone - who truly qualifies in that way. The bar has been set too high since the death of Diana. Therefore there is only one way for the royals to go: down. The end of deference.
@@barbarabarbour6833 Dianna was a big problem. she wasn't everyone,s favourtie
As the uk slips into deeper and deeper poverty, as the "bread" of vread and circuses shrinks, the need for the circus part, the Royalty, increases
I believe a ‘let them eat cake’ moment is n it’s way…
The Queen went on for too long. I never dreamt of any of them
Nor I. Why on earth would anyone?
didn't know they needed your kind dreaming about them to survive and live🤣🤣🤣
@@altinaykor364 of course they didn't but someone suggested thet we revered them so much that we dreamt about them. That's what my comment was referring to.
Wiliam has major issues
Which may be the reason why Kate vanished.
His major issue is that he is LAZY and has achieved nothing to date.
Yes I consider that the ghost of feudalism is producing a glass ceiling in education, politics, banking and other areas that hold themselves apart from The Great Unwashed. I consider this a drag on the energy and dynamism of the country.
I am Australian...a lady in middle age...most people around my age went through school in the seventies...We stopped singing God save the queen around that time. As a young child at school, I would see the queen's coronation portrait hanging in the classroom and had no idea who she was or why we had to sing to her...I thought that maybe she controlled the weather and made it rain... (long to reign over us) ...we were often in drought. Nothing was explained. I think that in Australia these days we don't give the royals a thought unless they are up to something interesting and scandalous, but we won't become a republic anytime soon. No one trusts politicians to get it right.
Nobody likes to be lied to- repeatedly lied to. The Monarchy just can't get away with it now. Why obscure the issue with allegations of "cruel comments".The truth is obviously too much to ask for and you uphold that in this diatribe.
Good thing that Harry escaped
yes however he beleives in constriction of free speech in case pps gets piissed of with his meagain !wife he,s no better than epstein whom his wife worked for he just wants the glory
Superb analysis. Made me reflect on my own reaction to the news of Catherine's diagnosis. I too, am a Republican who feels that a Monarchy is inconsistent with a Christian country. In addition, William's, by his own admission, lack of true Christian belief, is inconsistent with his future role as the Head of the Church of England. Yes, a monarchy is incompatible with true Christianity as well as inconsistent with true modern democracy.
Nice to know there are so any republicans maybe they should some spanish history. After. a civil war they lived under Franco,s dictatorship for 40 years and on his death they chose to have their monarchy back remarkably fast,
Charles and Camilla are certainly inconsistent with true Christianity.
Harry and Meghan made good their escape in time to rear their family in peace.
What family and what peace? The family they are never seen with? Don’t spend time with, in the peace they don’t allow themselves?
@@anapantelic517You must be the fly on the wall they complained about that will not go away. Or a Bot since we cannot see you everyday. And since we have not seen Kate, people can have a conspiracy theory that she is not alive since all we have been given are fake photo's, fake imposters & AI not a live Kate. According to your logic.
@anapantelic517 The Sussexes have two adorable children, and they must safeguard that they don't expose them to toxicity from hatemongers and conspiracy theorists. So they are living 5600miles away in Montecito where there are no leaks from hatemongers and royal rota.
Except they haven't escaped. I very much doubt if Prince Harry really wants to, after all he wont let go. Sometimes children want attention and they do not care if they get it by far means or foul. I think it's really a sad situation with him. One day he might really find hisvoice and use it for the right reason.
@@anapantelic517Similar to William's family who seem to have disappeared from the face of the earth.
What rubbish. If the BRF are tortured they can give up their crown. KC went to NI and Wales in order to keep the two nations in the UK. He did not have to go. And this woman feeling sorry for Harry who at 40 years old still can't get grow up.
In a televised 1970s interview, Prince Philip said that it would be the strident monarchist and media that would eventually end the British monarchy. He was prescient. He said that those 2 elements refusal to allow the royal family to change will be its undoing. All things change, hopefully for the better. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with tradition. However, when it stalls progress because people want to definitively look backward and live in an age that no longer benefits society or its people, then some things has to change. The tabloid media controls the royal family and what people think of them and thats dangerous. For the society and more so for the royals themselves. It benefits the sadistic elements of the media. They relish their control over them.
And now u tubers they have become the new Paparazzi when it suits them they cry that Mainstream M lie yet they themselves engage Inthe same behaviour
Love it it’s fair report, not slathering Megan and Harry to the bone
Crisis? Oh dear, what a shame!!
This lady, in fact, is talking and reasoning about her own ideas It seems true that members of the royal family did unreflected things Nevertheless all of this is mere bashing, nothing else
The RF is not at all in crisis, have you even looked at the polls on the topic? Do you realise that for the last couple of years the total cost of the monarchy to the taxpayer is £1.29 per head (despite a huge jubilee celebration and a state funeral)… excellent value for the diplomatic roles they fill, the cohesion they provide by being non political; and one comment here says ‘we should elect our head of state’ - does that person not realise that the voters elect the government which makes all the decisions on governance? The monarchy nonetheless has much to offer the current Prime Minister because the interactions between the monarch and the PM have existed for so long that they have much wisdom to impart.
100,000,000mill for a coronation 3times more than any tourist brings in, oh and 50 million for KC to decorate a palace he wasn,t even living in WHILE KIDS STARVED
Most of the cost - which has NOT been established- was security for crowds as much as visiting dignitaries. The meal later was paid for by Charles. The tourist revenue was a conservative direct £337million and much more in knock-on extended beyond one day inward tourism to the U.K. This extra revenue helps the government coffers including to eradicate child poverty & the government is voted in by the public. PS GB was better off as part of EU and shot themselves in the foot.
Are you counting all the money they make off estates? How much did William just get by becoming Prince of Wales? You need to do ALL the math.
@@jennysimons2865yes I am doing all the maths. Plenty of people are landowners of large estates.. do you want your private property to be taken from you? They volountarily pay tax on the income from those private estates and they manage them well, to the benefit of their tenants. The income from the estates eg Cornwall for the Prince of Wales and Lancaster for the Monarch reduce the amount of the civil list grant. Charles’s donation of the profits from his privately owned and established windfarm off N Wales will probably mean there is a net gain to the nation from the monarchy.
😂😂😂😂😂
This woman is daft. Princess Catherine was thanking the public for the manifold messages of good will and good wishes for her recovery. Thousands. She very wisely chose to ignore all the other noise from other people - many of whom had a financial interest in perpetuating the multiplying doom-laden rumours and speculations which served only to increase readership. and viewing figures. She is part of that rabble herself. And presumably, like her interlocutor, she is getting paid for her article and this present 'performance'.
The video was AI. It wasn't real.
Noone saw Catherine in public since Dec 25th 2023...
Noone saw C in public after 25th dec
The last king of England was William III who reigned from 1689 to 1702. He was succeeded by his sister-in-law, Anne, who reigned from 1702 to 1707 (and then continued as queen of Great Britain until 1714). She was the last Queen of England.
Good, get rid of it, it’s time has passed. No one has to go up against a wall, we can do it all nicely if that swings the deal. I think lots of people, myself included had a latent affection for the Queen, who did seem to put public service to the fore. It’s just a really expensive soap opera now.
Yes, they are sort of like the Khardashians, but on welfare.
just to look back: the Queen stayed too long, she should have moved aside when she was 80 giving Charles time to get into the job. But she didnt want to be known as the Queen Mother. What a mess!
Princess Catherine thanked all of us who are supportive, and there are so many of us. What's wrong with that?
The video was AI.
Yes it was AI. Catherine's voice was altered to the point where she spoke in a very clear voice, unlike her known natural mumbles.
@@300booksOh is that why I thought it so strange. As soon as I saw it I thought there was something weird about it. I don’t know how they do AI so it didn’t occur to me.
It wasn't her - AI.
The king is treating his cancer with herbal remedies, the princess was missing then turned out to be seriously ill, the second prince is living in exile.... has anyone checked to make sure the Norman's or vikings aren't preparing to invade? It's the dark ages all over again.
You have a good point. 😂
The King is also receiving medical treatment, either chemotherapy or or radiotherapy.
I don’t believe for one minute the king or Kate are sick. Think of chess pieces, two important pieces have been protected from harm secluded within the castle. Two expendable pawns are exposed.😊
I lived in London, the brits live in very old drafty cold apts, food is very expensive, the yards are extremely small, your neighbors are too close and people absolutely can never get ahead. They talk about free medical, I guess if you wait months for a procedure, I heard their health scheme is going bankrupt due to millions of immigrants, seriously I thought my plane landed in pakistan.
I never understood why schadenfreude doesn't exist in English. It is exactly what those who obsess about the royal family do. The morbidity, the obsessive and bullying of it all.
Very much. It's quite awful.
While I agree with your analysis that the press rip them apart I don’t agree with your solution. We need better laws to prevent this type of media bullying. My worry is that Boris or Cameron would inevitably become a President and we can see countless countries where Presidents end up turning the country into a dictatorship.
I couldn't agree more. I wish Miss Gold would try the Republican experiment in countries that are Republics. Or indeed, why not in Russia? Or Italy for that matter? Try the tax system there?! Try and register a car or , worse, try and buy a property, renew the passport...?! Simple things...She'll realise the way a receptionist can treat you when demanding your ID card. God forbid to have forgotten it at home..!.You could end up spending the night at the old 'nick'.
Do you see Parliamentary Republics in which it is the head of state turning the nation into a dictatorship? This is something we tend to only see in a Presidential system like the USA (think of South America) or Semi Presidential like France (think of African countries). In fact right now think of how much power the PM has (and quite a lot of that is provided by the monarchy)… a majority in the lower house of parliament, an upper house they can overrule after waiting just a year, and a King who rubber stamps all of his decisions, the Queen had no queries about prorogation and the King didn’t stop the anti-protesting legislation so what evidence do we have that our Monarchy really protects democracy? What we need is a largely ceremonial Presidency that plays a similar role to the King today but democratically elected, cheaper, more accountable, and able to call the Prime Minister and Government out on the most undemocratic moves and even veto them if they are deemed to be undemocratic or unconstitutional.
GROW UP, both cameron and russias junkieson have already been pm,s take responsibility,
Does everyone forget it's also a draw for tourists...which means money for alot of business .....
WHICH PAY BACK MORE IN TAXES THAN THEY PROFIT
@@hopegreen9027 Then why are they even in business????
France has more tourism and no monarchy.
That's incorrect. A republic (France) has the most tourists visiting their country. Most Brits will never see the royals - let alone foreign visitors.
One of the best interviews explaining the inner working of the British royal family. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@NewStatesman absolute. pifffle