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That fence post had alot of play in it. That guy probably could've rocked the fence post around and pulled the fucking thing out by hand.
Exactly what I was thinking
Yeah. Thought the same thing when he drilled the top hole and the post was waving back and forth. Just put on some gloves and pull up...done.
He had to demonstrate it somewhere. Plus, you wanna save your energy especially if you're a DIYer and working on your own. I hope we can see it would work on a more solid post which was the whole point.
If you want to use the same post holes you won't want the soil all torn about. This method lets you get the old ones out with minimal ground damage. Then you can open the holes as little as possible for the new posts.
Got a few street signs that way, and a few of them had more concrete than that post.
If that post had the correct amount of concrete then that method wouldn’t work. He would be putting his jack on top of the concrete.
you can bridge over that with some 4 by 4 pieces .
I *think* he meant a bridge for the base of the jack and the jack would still be proximate to the post while the pressure is bifurcated to either side of where the footing will be breaking up through the ground.
Thats exactly what i was gunna say!!
True but don't put your wood posts in concrete in the first place!
What about putting 2 jigs on and using 2 jacks on opposite sides?
Crickey that post has a tickle of concrete around it , no wonder the fences are always falling down 😂😂😂
Lol. That post almost pushed over when he drilled it. Come on guy.
Thanks for the entertaining video! I had no intention of making that fence post video but last second decided to hand the camera to my daughter. Which I guess explains the awesome production quality. The method helped me but I agree there are way more professional ways to remove a fence post. Thanks for the laugh!
You did awesome
Yeah, a lot hatred toward a method that clearly works and even the pro gave the nod. What I don't understand is everyone pointing out that the post is wobbly. Isn't that when it is time to replace it? I certainly do not replace my 4x4 posts that are not wobbly.
@@jerryshoescuffer2133 a worn out fence is a worn out fence. if one section falls or one post breaks, the rest is pretty much ready to go bye bye too.
I've also used a long power washer wand to remove the soil around the cement of the post and lift them out easily. Works great for when the post is rotted and you are left removing the cement. Plus it cools me off in the heat. You can also use something similar attached to a water hose. Float the cement out nearly.
I don't have a fence, why am I still watching this? 😢
Build one. Feel accomplished.
I know the feeling and was it just me or was the post already loose
I'm watching because KZhead has been suggesting it for months, and I gave in.
Build one and then tear it out.
Because you secretly want a fence. 😉
Only reason that worked out, is because he has good soil. Try doing that in texas clay.. You'll snap those post quick at that angle.
How yall doing down there? From your neighbors to the north.
In az the issue isn't removing the post. The problem is digging the hole to put up the first fence.
@@austinldail we have the same issue in certain parts of TX, but can definitely see that being more of an issue in AZ.
@@Gabebar85 just depends bro. I'm near the border so we have silt, loam, rock or clay. My house was clay and loam. One side took 2x the holes and concrete, the other side took 50% of recommended.
As a fellow Texan I can confirm. Buddy tried that and snapped every one. Customer was pissed
Those aren't deep at all lol. You could have rocked them and pulled them quicker
I agree. The concrete was brittle too. Just chunks off immediately when he drops it at the end.
I’m in North-Eastern Canada. Too shallow, too little cement, and practically no footing. These posts would have not lasted one winter; frost would’ve popped them out. With any proper footing, this method would be tougher to do.
Same thing I commented.. not only work in certain situations if you had a post 4 ft down in the ground man with a bag of concrete around it you ain't going to pull it out with that..
@@RhumRunner41 lol riiighhht!
Agreed. This wasnt a true challenge.
Did anyone notice how much movement was in the post when he was drilling the pilot holes!!!! Its amazing his fence ever stayed up.
Not to mentions that the edges of the post we're sticking out of the concrete. There wasn't even enough concrete around the post to completely cover the post itself lol.
Prolly why he's removing it
Yeah, but he's just making an example video. I'm sure this will work just fine with larger posts and more concrete. I would use chain as was mentioned, setting up the jig just burns time.
I don’t this it’s his fence
Very informative as I've got a fence that has to be replaced bout 15 MTRS and this sort of stuff is great for ideas on how to get it done right. Thank you.
6:14 I believe the chain videos he was referring to about having to dig down, are those where you dig down past the concrete lip usually present where the concrete has spread out a bit on the original ground surface (or below any concrete tapering if the top of the hole was flared out any), and run the chain around the smaller diameter below that. It provides enough 'grab' for the chain to pull against, without the need for a concrete anchor.
I’ve used this method with great success in northern Illinois with a fair amount of clay and approx 75 lbs of concrete attached to each post.
Please show a video.
... in a dream
It's great to hear an honest review like this from a pro thank you
a pro hole digger
he could save time by wrapping chain around post 3 times, hooking it in a t-post puller or on hi-lift...and get it out.
That’s like maybe 1/4th of a 80 pound bag of concrete 😂 taking out fence posts is definitely the most challenging part of building fences
forreal one time i ran into this one place where they used at least 5 80lb bags of concrete and i spent days using a digging bar busting all the concrete out
Leave them in
The weeds in my yard are harder to pull out than that post looked! My kids power wheel could have pulled those out!
That post looks like you could just pull it out by hand.
I've actually used something like this method when doing a chain link fence.. worked awesome..
Nice video. Very professional and respectful to the video producer. No bashing of any sort. I can see why your family has been in business for so long.
Couple things. I've never had a post this loose before I began to attempt removal. I'd agree that these posts don't have a lot of concrete. I typically use a 50lb bag or post, this looks more like half a bag. I've used the jack and 2x4 method and jack and chain method in Florida. The 2x4 method causes significant lean on my experience. The chain method provides a more straight pull and feels more safe to me.
Sorry, I hook a chain to a bobcat bucket. Someone on the ground wraps it around, and holds the loose end. This method I can pull a post a minute or faster. Might mention I use a very long chain, so the bucket is 4 feet above the ground, and the guy on the ground never bends over. Properly wrapped, no need to hook the post end. If it slips, ground guy just let’s go. Since the chain is long enough to keep him 6’ away from the work, no danger. Might add, no need to leave the hook on his end. No bobcat? Rent one. Makes boring new holes that much easier too. My helper and I removed and reset posts for over 250’ in under 4 hours. Just my two cents.
alot of times you cant use a bobcat when it comes to residential fences no one wants tracks in their back yard either that or its to tight of an area to even get one in
占い当てる , you may be right, I’ve never encountered such, myself, though. I’d leave those jobs to someone else.
@@thundervalley9766 somehow I always end up with those jobs, no Bobcats on the lawn.
@@kelkev85 lol been there too.
Not everyone can use a bobcat or have the room to get in there to use one.
I use this method sometimes, if the post is rotten just a bit at the base it snaps, if way to much concrete has been used which I find sometimes, maybe from a previous repair you cant place the jack in the correct position, and removing posts on a slope can be challenging, other than that it works just fine.
Thank you for the tip of using anchors into the concrete. I pulled my posts using a chain and a bottle jack or two... just wrap around and lift. I had a lot more concrete. A few broke off, so we used a wrecking bar and a couple pry bars to loosen then lift the concrete... a lot harder work. His posts look like they still had years of life, had they used a proper amount of cement.
Depending on what the soil is like there is a ridiculously simple way to remove a fence post. It does involve digging. You dig a shallow trench around the fence post, and fill it with water. Then you come back and refill it a number of times as it soaks in. Finally you just go out and rock the post back and forth, and pull it out.
Simple ain't always better. That sounds like a lot of time involved to be practical in a professional setting.
That sounds likes a genius idea.
Wow!!! This is a great idea. At 61 I can still remember using car bumper Jack's to do the very same thing. Probably not many people remember those widow maker Jacks. They were notorious for jumping out from under bumper letting car fall and you were real lucky if the jack didn't fly out and hit you in the gut or pinch your hand when it started leaning towards the side. Anybody remember that? Also, Joe I'm not trying to be a jerk and I like your vidios, they're very informative, but without your logo your shirts look like inmate coveralls. Sorry
Son in Ohio clay put post in pee stone when you need to replace suck the pee stone out with shop vac put new in and put stone back in real easy got idea from fencing company no concrete did 120 ft in 4 hours skid steer with 2 ft drill
@@philipmarsland6265 And this is why you shouldn't drop out of school.
I use to use bumper Jack's to break tires off beed when changing tires by hand I could break two tires down and put one back on in under 10 minutes yeah I went through a lot of tires when I was 16.
Used this method w/piston jack and it worked perfectly, entire concrete base came right out of the ground with the post, took 15 min and saved so much hard labor!
Nice! Appreciate you sharing your experience!
For posts that snap at the concrete, I use a long 1/2" bit and drill into the concrete in several places. Sometimes the concrete busts but most of the time I drive a 5/8" bar in the holes. A couple of licks with a breaker bar works too. The concrete breaks away from the post, I pull the wood then the chuncks of concrete. This works great for posts with a ton of concrete.
I love how he said “there’s a lot of concrete” and after he drops it, the concrete breaks off very easily!
Concrete must be a rare commodity in North Carolina. They seem to us it sparingly.
I've never seen so little concrete. It looked like a dollar store qtip 😅
A lot of concrete? 😂 He took his sweet time. I use chain and high lift jack too
I pulled a metal clothesline pole with a handyman jack and a chain with more concrete than the pile of posts he has. I did have to dig down but hey it was over 2feet deep and a hundred pounds of crete.. I can pull snow fence posts (metal U shaped with ridges) using a chain and no digging without much fuss.
Great vid! Now I'll know how to get this done.. hopefully I'll get to use this someday
Hey Joe I'm a self fence builder and what I use is the same o same o farm Jack but at the top of the jack put a 8in bolt through 2x4s on each side to make a tri pod and also use steel ring as a choke collar with the chain so no slippage and also works perfect when have rotted post , just use the steel ring to choke top of the cement block and it will stay firm and pull right up
Theres a few issues with this. 1. A hi-lift jack like many things from harbor freight is an injury waiting to happen. 2. those posts were so loose they could have been pulled out by hand. 3, there wasnt enough concrete on the post to be of any use. 4, If there had been the right amount of concrete used, the jack would have been on top of the concrete and caused issues with it
I just finished installing a farm fence here at my homestead. We used 2 bags of quick drying, high strength Quikrete per pole with the posts 2 ft down. I don’t see this method working so easy.
Why don't you try it before knocking it?
On the farm you just use your front loader or skid steer and a chain, because you have a quarter mile of fence posts to pull out ya don't got all day for a jack.
@@aantonides this is a fact!
Wowsers! I've never seen this method or the chain method. I wish I had known this a long time ago! Thanks ☺️
With that method I've always found a Chain to be more advantagous because you can use it on Steel Pipe fence posts & Steel "T" Posts .
Yeah I’d just wrap the chain a couple times.. no way that’s a quicker method and you need to carry the drill as well 🤷♂️ keep the vids coming mate ! brilliant content !
I could have pulled that post by hand, just alittle wiggle and lifting, barely any concrete and only about 1' in the ground.
Yeah, was thinking the whole time that the chain is all you need.. Double wrap so it is a choker, and tightens onto the post as you apply force.
Another issue I see is if the concrete base around the post is too large you can bind the jack between post and concrete. I've used my motorcycle jack that has a forked base along with rigging straps. The jack can be moved by one person but it works better with two and the straps save from having to drill each post, you can leave some of the bottom stringer to help keep the strap from slipping. This method especially saves time when you run into a fence that was installed by a DIYer who digs the post hole around 3 to 4 foot deep, yes that would be me but only once I moved to Florida (sandy soil and hurricanes) deep holes weren't a issue when digging in clay or hardpan.
We have hydraulic post pullers in the UK, the feet are set about 18 inches apart to allow the bowlder of concrete to be pull up straight. Looking at this I could of dug it out quicker.
No more than 15 inches in the ground and a little blob of concrete, you could have just pushed and pulled on the post to loosen it some more and pulled it out by hand
If anyone didn't realize that this fence post was about to fall over anyways, I suggest they put the key to their toolbox back in their purse and go inside and bake some cookies.
Last old fence we took out was all rotten just above the large concrete block because the concrete was 6 inches below grade allowing dirt surrounding the base of all the wood post . Plus we had several large tree roots , river rock and sprinkler lines engulfing just about all thirty posts ground support. We used a small back hole to dig out these over sized concrete post foundations .
The guys that replaced my fence in 2019 did jack the old posts out so that they could reuse the holes. The issue was the buried electric and cable lines. The Utility locator marked the Cox and ATT cables right under the fence. It was more work for them but lessened the change of cutting a line while digging a new hole.
Chain is much quicker than the drilling the post and what not. Chain method could pull 2 or 3 posts in the time he pulled 1 in my opinion. Time is money.
What if the ground is muddy or ground is soft? The jack will sink in the mud.lol
@@alans6110 throw down a small square sheet of plywood, 2x6 or something under the jack. Increase your surface area
Couldn’t we all have ether pulled this post out by hand or just dug it up in 1/4 of the time it took to do all this 😂
No...its bound in the ground with about a foot deep concrete foundation. The chain methods quicker tho
Ha! When he was drilling that first hole I thought, "Hmm, seems a bit low to me..." I would definitely put a "shoe" (wood or metal ) under the jack to increase the surface area under pressure just to keep it from sinking into the ground.
Wow I can actually just go to one KZhead channel . To figure out how to put this fence up actually I’m just closing in my neighbors fences on each side of my house so it’s a really easy compared to putting up a fence. Thanks for your channel lots of awesome help. 🙏
Why didn’t he just lift it out with his hands he almost pushed it over drilling into it.
Exactly what I thought lol
Up north here, we call that a handyman jack.
That's what we call it in Arkansas, also.
That's cute. I just had to use my 65 HP New Holland tractor with a chain on my loader and it still took an hour. Granted I was pulling a 6 inch steel post 3ft deep from a 12 inch diameter hole.
Thanks for the heads up on the pins for the jack
To pull it straight out, you can have 2 jacks, one on an opposing side to the other. I like the chain method better because you can reset more quickly and lower the grip point as you’re pulling out. You can also relocate around the perimeter as required.
That seems like a lot of extra time just to pull one post out.
step 1, dig around the concrete. step 2, remove the post and concrete.
I use 3 bags of concrete mix when I set my posts in 4 feet deep. With a 7 foot high fence the posts are anchored well. To get them out the bag concrete mix is easy ti break up with anelectric jackhammer. Wiggle the post back and forth and it comes out OR use the jack with chain and block method to save your back.
We built one on a “dolly” with a heavy duty tractor jack mounted to it. We can roll it up to it and pull the posts out. It works pretty awesome. I wish I could share a picture of it
Joe Everest have you ever installed a Trex fence?
Nice video, gotta say though thats not a lot of concrete on those posts.
Problem is of theres like a 5 gal of concrete as usual you're putting pressure down against the top of the concrete to push it up. It works without alot of concrete
That post was moving super easy when he was drilling Probably could have pried back and forth a few times and lifted it out by hand
I used this style around 20 years ago in Australia, would use a sledge hammer and loosen the post off the concrete, post would slide out. Then would break the concrete in the ground and pull it out.
I can't believe I never thought of a trail jack before. Definitely gunna add one to our tool trailer this season.
As loose as that post already was he probably could have just picked in up out of the hole
The post was about to fall over from drilling 🤣🤣🤣👍
So in the uk, we don’t often remove the old concrete unless it’s protruding above ground level, or unless the fence has the same post hole centres. Usually the posts are rotted enough to break them off by hand at ground level, then use the flat round “cap” of a steel 3” bladed bar, to smack the remaining rotted post further into the ground. As I said, most concrete is rarely at or above ground level, so we just cover over the top of them. This seems like a huge amount of effort and time to remove old posts. But as you’re aware, it very much depends on the customer, the type of fence that it’s being replaced with, and of course the landscape that you have to work with.
I have used this method many times in the past. Instead of attaching the wood I drill the holes and run a chain through the holes. Put the chain over the jack and jack it up. If the post comes out of the concrete I dig around the concrete so I can get the chain wrapped, and jack it up while leaning back with the jack.
look on U tube and see how the farmer guy does it with a tire and a cable or rope ..pulls them straight up and out works well with medium size tree roots tie one end of the cable end to your p/u truck..
If only a vehicle would go where it needs to all the time for posts.
We did this a bit differently. Since we did not have all day to play with the post. We took the Bobcat and drop the bucket and pick up the tree puller jaws. Drive up, clamp, lift, next!
Joe .... like the video in Australia a lot of the pailing fences the post have checkouts for the rails and we just put the jack in the bottom checkout Tip: when your using the jack you use your opposite hand to hang on to the post (pulling it towards you) as you are lifting the post so the post will come up straight
I use the chain method, I have a 3/8 hammerlock with a grab hook on the jack foot to make hooking up easier. Good tip with the lag bolt through the chain.
In most cases, I cut the post at grade and move the layout of the new posts, leaving the old crete in the ground.
I thought I was being lazy and innovative because I didn't want to dig two 6x6 posts out (like I did to 5 of them 2 years ago) so I used my low-profile hydraulic floor jack and some janky rigging (a 2x8 screwed to the post with deck screws) and started jacking, moved the rigging at least once and then I found out the posts were 6 feet in the ground without concrete.... our frost line is only 30 inches in Maryland.. who took the time to bury 2 6x6 posts 6 feet into the ground!?!?!?
Jacob Sorensen , maybe somebody that moved south from northern Ontario. Endless granite, swamps and tough winters.
I dug a lot of posts out in my day, and found the easiest way was to dig down on one side deep enough to lean the post over, maybe 45 degrees, then pull it up by hand. I'm thinking that looks like more trouble than it's worth. Especially that post. It had so much wiggle, it was almost ready to go already.
I just run an auger down the side of the post and pull em right out works every time.
The true life hack, if it is wobbling like that just pull it straight up using your hands. =}
I have no idea why i am here.. But i watched the whole thing. Noice
Caught that soon as it happened when he pushed into that post you could see considerable movement they didn’t look like they were very solid
I used a car jack to pry up the post using 2 2x6 attached to each other with the post in between. I screwed in 2 short 2x4 studs on each side of the post for the 2x6 to push up on. Worked great. Some of my posts had so much concrete I had to break up the concrete after pulling it out in order to carry it.
The drill the guy pulls out is the giveaway that man's hands are softer than warm butter and should go inside and make the men some ice tea. Metabo starter kit drill, lol.
hahaha
I feel like he could have wiggled it loose with how it was set
i had a post a few yrs back that i had to dig out..no biggie, one post, dig around it and pry it out...well an hour later and 2 more people to help and still stuck...i ended up digging a 3 foot hole wide and 2 feet deep to find out the builders emptied their last load of concrete and filled the hole with all of the leftover mix...it must have weighed 150 pounds.....great video review as always
you're not in a exclusive club . i've forgot how many times i started a job thinking this shouldn't take too long ...... hours later .... think again .
Kudos to you as the professional in not bashing the guy in the video. Thank you.
Well it was only 20” deep and 1” of concrete around it.
They used a butter knife to spread the mud
They actually looked like they were only about 12"down
@@godman5043 Yeah, I was thinking that baby post was barely 1 foot deep and a child spread a thin coat of concrete on it like they were icing a cake or something...
That post was so loose I could pull up by hand 😂
Watching this just reminds me why I gave up fencing for a living. Its nothing but flint and chalk where I live. It was hard work digging those holes.
I use a farm/tractor jack and a tow strap. Wrap the tow strap around the post several times, then attach to the jack and it'll lift the post right out. Be sure your final couple wraps are near the bottom as they'll make it easier to get it out fast.
Good video but man that’s barely in the ground. The post here below the frost at 4 feet. Have mercy on our souls.
or when the post is rotten and the post breaks off above the cement.
There are people putting fence posts 4' down in your area? Really? Like people who make money at it?
Kirstin Morrell yeah man. 4’ that’s the deal unless you want your fence to heave all over the place in the winter.
@@RidgelineJames I do 4', but I don't often do fences, and when I do I literally can't even get a skid steer guy to dig post holes to 4' without a lot of arguing, And I can't rent anything to dig that deep without a lot of arguing from the rental guys.Two to 3 feet is all that gets dug around here.
Kirstin Morrell that’s actually pretty interesting. I get a guy to dig my post holes no one even flinches when you say 4’. Where are you located?
That was bearly any concrete, ive seen old fences with a foot of concrete around them
haha thats my fence posts as we get alot of heavy winds here.
This is a good method where you have soft soil, but not out here in the SW Desert. First, it is usually the fence post that gets attacked with termites and or dry rot. So the post would come apart at the cement. Second, we have a lot of clay called Caliche and can be about as hard as concrete. If the fence post has been in the ground for a few years, it's been through a few rains, the desert heat of 110 to 115 F and dirt has settled in around it, it will be near impossible to get the post and cement out without digging it out. That dirt will pack in around that post cement and harden to a point where they have had to use jackhammers to dig out the concrete. Sometimes they have been able to do something like pulling them out by removing the wood and using a set of expandable wedges that expand and grip the concrete as it is pulled up by a truck with a hydraulic lift ram or arm. We don't get a lot of rain here, but during the summer Monsoon it can come in heavy downpours. But there is so much of that Caliche and Calcium in the dirt making it hard, that it takes 100 years for that water to peculate or seep down to the water table that is from 100 to 500 feet down in most cases. (Some wells go down as far as 700 feet to hit water.) I had to replace my fence a few years ago. It was just easier to move the posts over and dig another hole. But this time, I used "J" or anchor bolts in the concrete and had thick wall squair metal posts, welded to metal plates that I could bolt them down to. Much like the way they mount metal street lamp poles or the way the mount the fram to a house on a concrete slab. That was if some kid on his quad runs into it and damages a section, I only have to unbolt that post or section to replace it. So much easier to fix.
Holy shit nobody cares.
I will be doing this in a week. Got a link to the concrete anchor you mentioned. My posts are rotten and I do not expect them to be able to lift out like that.
God he made me want to go grab a shovel and dig one up in less time with just a shovel
Dude for real, that thing had so little depth and concrete you could have it out of the ground in less than a minute using just an E-tool let alone a real shovel
Even without that guy explaining everything, I’m would of had it out of the ground already !! Everyone so afraid of hard work any more!
Are we afraid or do we just want to optimize? I mean I'm sure you drive a car right? Are you scared of the hard work of running miles to the store and carrying all the stuff back ?
I like the repeatability and resetting ease of a chain w jack. Less hardware to add/ bend and remove w lags. But, he’s got some quick impact skills.
This method works fine ,,ive used it probably over 70 times ...though i do put 2 2 by 4's together and not 2 by 2's as to get over the circumference of the concrete around the post ..yes once in awhile a post will slip out without the concrete and other problems might come up but this has been a fantastic way to get posts out ...im glad i saw the youtube videos about it..best to use method in spring when wet ...or just hose down the area first
Let me see the technique without all the yapping
Joe Everest 😂 still a great reaction video lol
Why don't you look up the original video you yuppy
I do something similar. I just screw a 2x4 to the side of the post. Then put a longer 2x6 or 2x4 under the 'jig' and jack one end of the 2x6. Using the 2x6 allows you to locate the jack away from the post so you don't end up interfering with the cement on the post. I don't have a tractor jack, I use my 21 inch floor jack.
We used to use a shore jack on slip shores or ellis clamp shores in concrete deck work. If you type in how to use a shore jack with ellis shores you will see how it works. With some modification I think it would work just dandy.
I've used a piece of 4x6 timber notched with a length of chain then run the winch on my 4x4 to the chain, the chain going through the timber will bite into the ground causing it to try to stand while winching that adds lift to the pull similar to the farm jack to a chain, also a little less hard on your back and pulls the post out of hard Oklahoma clay, still a good method and I've done the jack method before as well
I've used this with great results even with lots of concrete. Multiple bags worth. Chain to 2x4s. Jack on 4x4 base, offset to clear concrete. No pin breakage for me.
I'm not a fence builder at all, but I've done it with just a couple 2x4s, i just cant remember if i dug it out a little or not, but very similar method, my boss at the time taught me, and my mind was blown 😂😂
Done this at least dozen times with a 4x4 jack never failed it takes a little longer but it takes all the digging out of it