THE $50,000 PREVOST PROBLEM NOBODY TALKS ABOUT

Maybe Prevost needs to go back to riveting their panels on. I always thought the rivets looked cool.

Shattered Prevost’s quality image for me! Wow. I’ll never lust after one again!

Interesting to know. Beautiful being so smooth but a few polished rivets would seem to be a more intelligent long term solution.

50 thousand for glueing panels I’m in the wrong business

Wow that’s crazy, I would be very upset if that happened to a high dollar coach like that ! That’s pretty sad ! Great Video Andrew Thanks for keeping it real !

If you stay on top of any Prevost delam issue, you can have these re-glued by any qualified Prevost repair shop for around $800 - $1,000. The re-glue is required about every 3 years or so. Anyone spending $35k or more to fix a fairly common problem like this is wasting money. I've had my XL2 for 8 years and had to have this done twice only in that time period. It's a shame that videos like this don't tell the whole story.

So delamination was thought to be a mass produced fiberglass RV problem! Yikes. Great information Andrew.

Crazy to have these problems on such an expensive coach

Reminds us poor people to stay away from shiny things ..... LOL

The best video you have done Andrew - valuable information !

Invaluable knowledge for those in the market for a Prevost! Take Care

That is great information on the XL and XL-II's. Will you ever do any videos on the H3-45's? I am looking to purchase one and your channel has provided good insight on designs, flaws, options, and so much more...keep it up! I love the stainless steel look but the maintenance and cost with this new information on pre-owned units is eye-opening!

I would never have suspected a manufacturer would glue on stainless steel panels.

I got mine to use. I got it last June and it has over 12,000. Miles so far. Going again when the quarantine is over.

Expect the current owner to fix by Prevost, as part of your purchase, head over to Prevost forums to understand why you should still strongly consider a used prevost over other later model Class A's....

Wow Andrew you don’t mess around lol! Thanks so much for the video, you have such great connections to find all this information for us! Where I live you rarely see a Prevost on the road (especially in the winter) let alone get a chance to talk to owners about them, I’ll have to check out some forums in the future too. Really appreciate your honesty in all your videos I’m guessing that’s why your subscribers keep increasing. I’ll know who to call when I get my bus and am parked in Phoenix for the winter in a couple years!

We enjoy our older non-slide XL45, was seriously looking for a XL2. Think we will continue to enjoy our coach and not upgrade. Thank you for this video. Looking foreword to hitting the road after the Quarantine, cancelled all reservations up through August so far.

Man, that is such great info. Bravo man ✌️

$100 self tapping screws and a case of beer.

Thanks for sharing this video, it is very good to have this information when considering a purchase. I wish there were more honest sharing like this. Of course it still dont mean someone shouldn't buy one of these.. some fixes are worth paying for, depending on the coach!

Pretty good video Andrew and thanks for the tips to look out. Funny thing what’s up with the tire rolling along? Lol!!!👍

Great video again Andrew, good useful information like you said kinda depends on how much heat the coach has been in over the years and cold but l look at it this way it’s just like buying a used home it’s always going to need maintenance to keep in top notch shape every thing breaks down in time

You just save us a ton of money thank you .ps I touch and pull on all part see if they lose then Questioning it and get 2nd input on that part etc .

Wow I thought these were state of the art and this type thing was not happening. Shocking really an eye opener. Thank You My little tiny Sunseeker has Asdel siding and the exterior they say can’t have that Problem. It’s a under a hundred thousand dollars for a brand new little ride. 25 feet long wow I had no idea, thank You again.

Andrew - Another great and informative video! Thank you! I'm like you...a "wannabe" Prevost owner who currently owns an 07 DutchStar. I have had my eye on both the older XL and less older XLII models. I may now decide to pull the trigger on a nice old XL or maybe an H3 and stay away from the XLII models. Or, my wife wins out and we keep the DutchStar! 🤣

Good to know that Andrew, I’m in the market for a XLII, Prevost should’ve engineered that major problem out years ago, or at least life time warranties for any person that owns it.

That's one more reason i prefer the entertainer x3. I like the look of that smooth metal above the bays.

Thank you Andrew for your videos. I really appreciate it. IMHO...get an XL and call it a day. I got a Wanderlodge and called it a day. No delam on a welded all steel bus.

Thank you for covering this. I'm looking for a new coach and this is something to consider for the future.

Excellent info thanks for sharing. Izzy

just one more reason i prefer the H3, no metal side panels. another great video Andrew, and as always, stay safe and give Sadie some love for me.

Clearly none of these guys ever heard of a gorilla tape.

What a unique concept to video audio capture. Two types audio is quite effective Andrew.

Mine would just be inclosed when it was in for service and fixing what fails on the previous trip. Well thank You for the heads up.

The real idiots are the ones who would agree to that price!! DIY

Dude I dig your channel because your just about the only one to tell people the price of most RV's you go over.

Thanks you do a GREAT SHOW

Andrew - this is a great video. About 2 years ago we met a guy named Kyle Bennett at Tradewinds RV in FL. They maintain, service and broker preowned RVs and namely know their Prevosts. He was the first to explain this to my wife and I and show is the difference and what to look for and it became a regular question thereafter in our hunt for a XLII conversion. What we soon learned is that if a XL is less expensive by about $30K to $50K then the owner or seller knows about the delam and will say nothing usually unless asked directly. Or they’ll say they don’t know. Kyle was incredibly good about showing us what to look for. Then we met Austin Hicks at Olympia and he did the same. Basically - it’s a $30K to $50K fix. And may be right and may not be. They can’t just glue them back and if they tell you they can then they are wrong. They usually use a vertical strip between the panels. If water gets behind them then it will he even worse. Nobody knows that answer until they get into the coach. The problem was supposedly fixed in the X3. So, we switched gears to the preowned X3 hunt (want to stay under $1M) and/or the H3. We have now taken a liking to Emerald after watching the quad slide H on your channel. Mr Walker has it down. Our tastes to a T and right up the road from us. Thanks Andrew.

I’m glad you’re talking about this issue, which has been around for over a decade. For a company like Prevost, which prides itself on quality and excellence in engineering, this ongoing issue is inexcusable. Obviously there is a problem with glue selection, production process, or both (I question Prevost decision to use glue in the first place, when this seems like an ideal application for double sided tape). As a mechanical engineer, I know that manufacturing problems like this are solvable. And, while finding the solution is not easy (it takes resources and a pragmatic approach to problem solving), I wonder which is more costly; fixing the issue, or the hit to Prevost reputation? It’s one of the reasons I’m hesitant to buy a used XL11.

I like the looks of the riveted ones better anyway and I'll bet they are much stronger structurally.

Excellent info Andrew thanks

Invaluable information for prospective buyers------or at least $50k worth! Saved to my "Prevost" playlist....for future reference. 🤙

Excellent vid Andrew!

Prevost should've stayed with riveted panels. As for coaches, I prefer VanHool's for the smoother ride quality Prevost don't have.

Rivet them up and be done with it.

Thanks for letting us know

Thank you for point this out. What a shame.

My first comments disappeared?I will repeat.i worked at motor coach when the fiberglass coaches first started.the problem was no spacers between metal frame and fiberglass panels so the Sika flex had no flexibility so the expansion and contraction from -20 to +100 degrees would break the seal and come loose.solutikn was to cut the seal loose clean it off put spacers and re seal.this was close to 20 years ago so IAM very alarmed all coach builders don't know or pretending not to know?

Million dollar motorhome and your still dealing with delamination like an old bounder or Fleetwood. Please bring back good old American quality. Rivets never hurt nobody and they look good

Recently subscribe to your channel great videos and knowledge thank you anyways what's your absolute favorite coach

Andrew very good!been in the rv industry a long time.most laminated bodies sooner or later will delaminate.been looking for decade for a xl45 Finally got a 95 the body and chassis age is like it was 5 years old.it is built like it could last 50 years.be safe thank you for the great and informative video s.

The hat, shirt, and sunglasses screem Walmart blue light special.. Thanks for the info...

Thank you! VERY interesting!!!!!!

Great vid great insight and what a fantastic vehicle.

Thank you, we are getting 2 buses so we can travel... good information to look for...

Awesome information Andrew. This information really makes the Newell's the ones to buy for my hard earned money.

Delamm is a problem with ALL large motorhomes, not just Prevost! I had to pop rivets the sides over the tires on my Monaco, cost me about $15.00 and did it my self

This video is definitely informative!!! Thanks!!!

well that would do it for me, what I had heard is that PREVOST always took care and stood behind their coaches. Yep drive it until the sides fall off. or water gets inside the skins and grows mold in there.

Nice nice vlog mate did videoBob buy his PREVOST from that place 😂😂😂💕

holy smokes all of the units u looked were clean as new wow,ya anyway great vid man

The problem is heat and cold expansion and contraction.i worked at motor coach in Winnipeg almost twenty years ago when they started making the new fiberglass coaches.they had same problem because there was no spacers between the metal frame and the fiberglass panels.The expansion would cause the seal to break so we basically cut the seal and cleaned it off then put spacers in and put the cicka flex sealant back and clamp it until dry.

Great information, thank you!

Who's your ideal employee you keep an eye out for when looking for a driver?

With problems existing on older coaches, has the company done anything to remedy this issue(s) on the new models?

Thank you for your video. Are you able to provide the Bus Converter Company? Was this a Prevost or Bus Converter issue? Was the delamination covered under warranty?

Good information thank you.

Very good video!!! However I'm wondering about the H3-45 models? Any input? Thanks!

With know experience of driving a 40' RV is there some type of school or driving orientation for that? Love to know! Ty. God Bless!🙏🙏🙏

Are there others as well that are not on a normal check list?

I use to drive Marathon xl working girl. My dad was in to rvs and we had friends that had conversions so seeing all those coaches gave me a big case of i wants !!!They are so pretty !!! I saw a Senator coach up in Montreal ( in the 90s )and the driver was trying to get to drive for them . I have been the the factory for Prevost as well.

Two questions: do the exterior panels seal out the weather, or just cosmetic? Secondly , are there any reports of panels actually flying off if not reattached?

Great job with this video!

great job what are some of the other big problems ?

Oops, not on a Prevost !?!? Thanks for the info Andrew, be well !

There's what we call Entertainer Coach and the Motorhome coach. The entertainers are basically tour buses which are mostly leased. The motorhome are the private coaches and those have two rows on chromed stainless panels. The entertainers just have the bottom row. I started working at Prévost last January and I like seeing this kind of videos... rest assured they changed there glue quite a while ago though so if you buy one that needs that kind of fix...they'll put the new glue that they now use to hold these panels

Great Job, thank you for your video

Great Info... Thanx for Sharing

What a buzzkill for any would be Prevost owner. Thanks Andrew for bringing this up to our attention, this is why I like watching your YT channel. Every RV brand has its own problem, Prevost is not excluded. It is valuable information, might be used when negotiating the sale price of a 10+ yr old Prevost.

Your best trip RV/Plane/Yacht is someone else's that you lease/rent - if you're not using it nearly full-time. You notice most bands lease their buses for their tours, because they don't need to pay to have them sit between outings, and they can lease newer buses for each tour.

Enjoy your videos very much, hate to change subject but what your opinion on Class A Thor motor coach, looking at a 2015 asking price 163,000 50k miles, if you get a chance to reply

Andrew, when are you getting a PREVOST!?? That's the real question! I love all the PREVOST videos, from old to new ones, more bay videos and exterior stuff keep it coming!

As one who is considering RVing full time, I appreciate this. A suggestion for the future is to go over some of the safety features by year or modifier. When I look at descriptions of motorhomes, I an drawn to items like collision avoidance, blind spot warnings, ect. Doubt that I am the only one. Another thing is do Prevost units have a sliding tray that covers the entry steps? If not, what prevents the passenger from falling down the stairs?

High class problems.... Considering the cost of a Prevost, this isn’t that dreadful. Hence a thorough prebuy inspection is critical. Anyone that owns an aircraft can share similar experiences and learning lessons.

Old school method with some rivets resolve the problem!

They should have rivets at the factory like a airstreams

Why wouldn't you just rivet them? Couldn't cost more than a couple hundred dollars at most. You could even color match the rivets.

Good job amigo 👍👍

Slap some FLEX SEAL/FLEX GLUE in those joints your good to go!

One guy said it best. My idea of the prevost base has been shattered. I too will never list after them again either.

Hi Andrew, my name is Luis Urbieta and I have a question. How can you prevent Delamination from happening? Is there a spray that can seal the desalination completely and make it "DELAM-FREE? Plz reply.

Great video Andrew .... I was always under the impression that any prevost conversion is overpriced and everyone was telling me but prevosts are supposed to last a life time!!! Well, surprise, surprise aint that a fun killer!! Even with proper storage, they are prone to delaminate due to the construction of these panels and sticking those tins on them with a glue ....I have seen even the old revitted ones delaminate here in the heat and sun of the middle east ... It is time for these grayhound buses to come down to a more realistic price!!

You could use panel bond from an auto body supply store.

In my couple decades of piloting both Rock & Roll and private owned Prevost’s, from mid-90’s XL models, the early to late model XLII’s, to the newest X3’s, I’ve seen maybe a couple that had delamination issues, and they were 1st Gen XLII’s with a gazillion miles on them. Considering how much body flex these coaches endure, especially the older non-slide ones that had been rode hard in the leasing industry, I’m surprised I didn’t notice more of it, and I was a pretty OCD driver to NOT notice, if it was an issue with such a high occurrence.

So in your honest opinion, if someone is looking for. Prevost, and doesn’t really care about slides, what are the best years to look for?

Thank god, I just bought the 1988 Prevost XL

Andrew, is there an option of rivets or screws to fasten loose panels rather than a full tear down?

thanks for showing us

what I would do is teck-screw it so you have only a head of a nut showing the right one for length etc stainless

How about the x3? Same problem?