Did Five Nights At Freddy's Ever Have A Good Story?

2024 ж. 17 Мам.
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For ten years now, Freddy Fazbear and friends have become terrors the world over...but with so much material surrounding them, it can be easy to forget how the story comes across to someone only familiar with their original video game outings. Today, I'd like to explore the merits of FNAF's narrative through this very particular lens, and see if it stacks up to all the hype it's generated.
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CHAPTER LIST:
00:00 - INTRO
05:27 - CHAPTER 1: FIVE CRAZY NIGHTS
14:08 - CHAPTER 2: YOU CAN'T SAVE THEM
26:34 - CHAPTER 3: WILD WILLY'S HOUSE OF HORRORS
36:19 - CHAPTER 4: HOME IS WHERE THE LORE IS
45:04 - CHAPTER 5: TRIAL UNDERGROUND
1:08:02 - CHAPTER 6: LAWSUIT TYCOON
1:29:53 - CHAPTER 7: WILTED WILLY'S HELL OF HORRORS
1:35:26 - CHAPTER 8: SCOOPING OUT THE GUTS
1:47:49 - CHAPTER 9: THEY ALWAYS COME BACK
1:58:14 - OUTRO
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  • Pinned comment question: What's your favorite narrative (in any medium) with *excessive amounts of lore?*

    @NezumiVA@NezumiVA3 ай бұрын
    • NieR/Drakengard, it's both amazing and terrifying how much lore there is here. And that lore too is really, really bizarre at times.

      @togerumisu@togerumisu3 ай бұрын
    • zero escape >:)

      @ika6372@ika63723 ай бұрын
    • The Archie Sonic comics. While I don't really get anything out of the first 160 issues, and I admittedly like the post Super Genesis Wave stories more, the fact that any sort of satisfying narrative could be made from what came before is ridiculously impressive. Lowart has a really good series of videos going through the Archie Sonic comics, for those who don't want to wade through all of that.

      @J.R.Unbound@J.R.Unbound3 ай бұрын
    • Fire Emblem Three Houses my beloved.

      @Arcanist_The@Arcanist_The3 ай бұрын
    • ❤Kingdom Hearts❤

      @IronTrickster@IronTrickster3 ай бұрын
  • Nothing in this franchise is quite as funny as the concept that Elizabeth was there, in the pizza sim building, going on and on about how this must be a gift from her dad, and how she's going to make him proud, and Afton is literally there, in the same ventilation system, listening to it all with no comment on anything. They never ran into each other? They never discussed this or anything?

    @erikm8373@erikm83733 ай бұрын
    • I'm not sure the guy is in a state capable of coherent speech. Aside from his catchphrase, naturally.

      @garr_inc@garr_inc3 ай бұрын
    • Classic deadbeat behaviour

      @eabhaishere4558@eabhaishere45583 ай бұрын
    • I assume that he was silently observing his 'creations.' He does say how fascinated he was by what they've become.

      @absolutechadd8895@absolutechadd88953 ай бұрын
    • Baby daddy issues

      @Wizardjones69@Wizardjones693 ай бұрын
    • Elizabeth died too soon to recognise him, William is too high to care

      @CrabbChips@CrabbChips3 ай бұрын
  • I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Remnant is the Midi-chlorians of fnaf

    @Bizabizow@Bizabizow3 ай бұрын
    • It really is tho

      @Rey_Palpatine@Rey_Palpatine3 ай бұрын
    • You make it sound as if midi-chlorians are a bad thing

      @rodimusmagnus5586@rodimusmagnus55863 ай бұрын
    • @@rodimusmagnus5586I mean it’s not that it’s bad it’s that it removes the mystique. For some the idea of the force being trained telekinesis is cool, but to some the explanation of them being small little micro-organisms being influenced removes a lot of the coolness. Same applies to fnaf, yeah remnant explains a lot on the origins of the animatronics but it also removes the cool mystery and eeriness.

      @browserjunior4707@browserjunior47073 ай бұрын
    • @@browserjunior4707 except that midi-chlorians don't explain the force, midi-chlorians simply allow communication with the force, and someone's midi-chlorian count indicates how easily they can communicate with the force, which is why Anakin having the highest count Qui-Gon has seen is important

      @rodimusmagnus5586@rodimusmagnus55863 ай бұрын
    • ​@@browserjunior4707 nothing about the midichlorians ruins the Force cuz it's not even the force to begin with

      @evanmil0minefly@evanmil0minefly3 ай бұрын
  • i got so far into this video and went "wait didnt henry get into a car accident and kill his family" before realizing that i somehow managed to merge fnaf lore and the little bit of the walten files story i remembered in my mind

    @gobsmacked2412@gobsmacked24123 ай бұрын
    • i am now realizing ive merged a non-insignificant amount of fnaf lore with walten files lore in my head lol

      @gobsmacked2412@gobsmacked24123 ай бұрын
    • @@gobsmacked2412 I don't know what's worse me not understanding a half of the story in the franchise or not being able to tell the difference between actual fnaf lore and fan projects inspired by it.

      @prometheus9732@prometheus97323 ай бұрын
    • LMFAOOO💀💀💀😭😭😭

      @B-zk9bt@B-zk9bt3 ай бұрын
    • Felix Kranken 🤝 William Afton -Killing children, causing them to possess mascot character(s) which would go on to torment them -Driving drunk

      @epicwaba6424@epicwaba64242 ай бұрын
  • Fucking loved Micheal and William roasting each other

    @inquisitor9207@inquisitor92073 ай бұрын
    • @1:13:23

      @RaysofLight98@RaysofLight983 ай бұрын
    • I'm not gonna lie, that was so damn good I had to listen to it again because I was dying from laughing so hard. They had the chance to VA this shit and they didn't go that route, opportunity missed!

      @darkvizardking69@darkvizardking693 ай бұрын
    • 1:17:24 for the second one

      @lividlife213@lividlife2133 ай бұрын
    • "He's like Bart Simpson"

      @ffffffffROTHY@ffffffffROTHY3 ай бұрын
    • Is it from something or was it made for this video?

      @adhdemon8325@adhdemon83252 ай бұрын
  • I wish we never got “remnant” as an explanation for Michael getting up after ennard leaves. The idea of a corpse still moving for reasons neither the audience nor it understand is so much cooler than “magic goop”. Idk, maybe I just don’t like how it was handled, undertale had a similar concept and I kinda enjoyed it there

    @calzadomestica@calzadomestica3 ай бұрын
    • Flying microtonal banana mentioned

      @croupacabra@croupacabraАй бұрын
    • If remnant was just their name for paranormal, spirit activities like haunting and stuff, it wouldnt be that bad But remnant is treated like a substance and its so uncool

      @Garden0flowr@Garden0flowrАй бұрын
    • Fazbear Frights also dont help with agony and ZPF lmao

      @HassenOsnel@HassenOsnelАй бұрын
    • 'cause UNDERTALE starts by telling you that *magic* was used to seal monsters underground, and monsters use magic to attack or heal you, and eventually you see a flower absorbing some souls and *manipulating time* to mess with you, so something like Determination really isn't far-fetched. while FNaF started off pretty grounded with just the animatronics being possessed by vengeful spirits, but then a few installations later, the guy who used to be just an evil child murderer who burns to death is apparently a mad scientist experimenting with magic goop that lets you say no to dying.

      @ediblepencil494@ediblepencil494Ай бұрын
    • You are so right!! I was hooked on the concept of a guy with so much unfinished business that he haunts his own corpse just so he can finish mopping up his father's mess. Remnant just feels like a strange and unnecessary complication

      @jincorgi8253@jincorgi825318 күн бұрын
  • Okay but "lore-or" is actually such a good genre name to lump all of the fnaf inspired horror games that have come out with an emphasis on hidden stories and lore instead of actual horror elements (bendy, poppy playtime, hello neighbor just to name a few)

    @benlarson6031@benlarson60313 ай бұрын
    • that was the moment i subscribed tbh

      @bur_n_t@bur_n_t3 ай бұрын
    • The true horror is reading

      @Chillipeffer@Chillipeffer3 ай бұрын
    • ​@bur_n_t if you're a new viewer then you should totally watch her other stuff too!!! They make a ton of awesome essay type videos on a ton of awesome games! ^^

      @ding-dong_bing-bong@ding-dong_bing-bong3 ай бұрын
    • "I call him Lorelor!"

      @daelen.cclark@daelen.cclark3 ай бұрын
    • isn't that just what mascot horror is

      @spad_overolls@spad_overolls3 ай бұрын
  • bonnie staring at the camera in cam 5 is still, to this very day, one of the most horrifying realizations that hits you. these things know you aren't an endoskeleton, as bonnie ignores the endo in that room and chooses to stare at YOU. that was the most solid fucking story telling yet in fnaf 1 had you not known about the MCI prior to seeing that.

    @delirious8819@delirious88193 ай бұрын
    • In fact where the endo is exactly where they stuff you and sit the suit you were stuffed into

      @jmurray1110@jmurray111025 күн бұрын
  • Nezumi please I already feel bad enough for being british I don't need it to be lore relevant

    @Ren-zg7nu@Ren-zg7nu3 ай бұрын
    • 😟

      @doodooradio@doodooradio3 ай бұрын
    • Haha British person 🤡 nice clown shoes 🥵

      @myralyra2404@myralyra24042 ай бұрын
  • I never knew how much I wanted a scene of Michael and William yelling at each other when they have reach way past their breaking point and are just two extremely broken and tired people, but I loved it and I need more.

    @TriToneTiefling@TriToneTiefling3 ай бұрын
  • I will defend Fnaf 3 until the day I die, so my answer to this question is yes, but only until the Afton Saga started (4- SL- FFPS). After you look at the first few games retroactively it becomes really clear Scott just made it up as he went along. It's a miracle it managed to stay good for that long to begin with

    @emirturkmen4524@emirturkmen45243 ай бұрын
    • He said as much in Dawko's interview. There was and most likely still is no plan for this franchise.

      @Chillipeffer@Chillipeffer3 ай бұрын
    • Good luck telling that to any of the lore people lol. They're coping so so so hard that there has never been a single retcon and everything has always been meticulously planned and every detail is important.

      @kain1799@kain17993 ай бұрын
    • @@kain1799 I can't blame them tbh. The "there was only one retcon in the series" line comes directly from Scott and it's gotta be hard calling someone who's stories you're passionate about a liar

      @emirturkmen4524@emirturkmen45243 ай бұрын
    • ​@@emirturkmen4524 I don't think he's straight up lying though, there really was only one true retcon, but that doesn't mean he didn't change things from past games that weren't completely fleshed out yet which means it technically doesn't count as a retcon lol.

      @ItsSupercat94@ItsSupercat943 ай бұрын
    • ​@@ItsSupercat94the "dci" from fnaf 2 still a mess that scott made and it was never brought up again, no wonder the dci was most likely retconned

      @Wizardjones69@Wizardjones693 ай бұрын
  • i remember when the first fnaf came out, it was right when i moved out for the very first time. watching markiplier's lets play of that game, by myself and in the dark, more by myself than i ever had been before, it really scared me! "sleep with all the lights on in my tiny and lonely new apartment" kind of scared me! jumping at every little creak and thump in my decrepit old apartment building, for seven whole months,right up to the day i moved out of there. and honestly, remembering that year and remembering fnaf fondly go hand in hand for me. and i mean, you know. five nights freddy waiting for me in front of my fridge

    @frandolled@frandolled3 ай бұрын
    • Ahhh.... The good old days where an apartment was more or less affordable for one person.....

      @Cheezmonka@Cheezmonka3 ай бұрын
    • Markiplier was my introduction to FNAF too. Good times.

      @user-xh8df9oz4y@user-xh8df9oz4yАй бұрын
  • My thoughts is that the first 3 games told a story that you could fill with headcanons because names were kept blank, we knew no motives. He just did the things and the place is haunted. It wasn't supposed to be in depth But now... it's just super convoluted with having to remember names and specific events

    @EliasMorals@EliasMorals3 ай бұрын
    • FNAF has always had a perplexing and convoluted story.

      @applesaretasty2731@applesaretasty27313 ай бұрын
    • @@applesaretasty2731I mean, _always_ is a bit of an exaggeration. Fnaf 1 could be summarized as “dead kids inhabiting pizzeria robots, said pizzeria is shutting down soon because of the dead kids being literally inside of the robots, don’t get killed by the haunted robots” and I could probably trim it down more.

      @dumpingstirs1143@dumpingstirs11433 ай бұрын
    • it was never meant to be deep, but scott was riding such a high of the game's boom in popularity that he just kept adding and adding to keep the theories running and people talking and in turn fucked everything up

      @faeb.9618@faeb.96183 ай бұрын
    • ​@@dumpingstirs1143using that logic you could generilze every fnaf game

      @Raddish-IS-Radd@Raddish-IS-Radd3 ай бұрын
    • ​@@Raddish-IS-Radd Yeah but.. Not really...? The first 3 games encapsulate a (somewhat) smaller and easily digestible story with clear themes. A man, for reasons not fully understood, became a serial killer known for posing as an animatronic character to lure kids and kill them. To the public he's eventually rumored to have hidden the bodies in the animatronic suits hence their possession. Time passes and this man tries to destroy what's left of his actions. Unknowingly allowing the souls of his victims to roam more freely and bring terror to the man who was once a monster to them. As a last ditch effort he runs to the suit he killed them in as if it was a suit of armor. Only to accidentally volunteer himself for the same fate he had provided his victims. As the souls move on, the monster is left to realize it was nothing more than a weak man, capable of being left to the same animatronic prison he sent his victims into. Left to rot, left to obscurity, even in death there was no escape for him. Everything beyond that point increasingly makes that story more convoluted. Gives names and motives to entities that were fine without it. Shifting the focus of a paranormal story about the victims, trauma, and tragedy to a sci-fi story about a near-mad scientist that's killing kids at an attempt to achieve immortality from an ever-shifting motive wherein the properties of actual possession as well as "remnant" are completely inconsistent. And, despite another character's extreme hatred towards the actions of this near-mad scientist/business partner, the company he runs has comical policies that'd seemingly do everything it can to protect that near-mad scientist's actions + maximize risk of employee death. There's hardly a consistent detail or concept, the general theme's are ever shifting, and no matter how well you try to describe the plot, details, and concepts of one game, they'd immediately have to be re-evaluated and explained once you try to describe the plot, details, and concepts of the next game. Hell, at this point the summarization of "man killed kids and they possess robots now" is itself a long lost concept that's rarely been touched on in 7-8 years (or like 4 games and countless books)

      @CobRaM4tRIX@CobRaM4tRIX3 ай бұрын
  • I swear at this point you deserve WAY more recognition. These are genuinely some of the most fun video essays ive ever listened to

    @shockdoggo6889@shockdoggo68893 ай бұрын
    • Agreed

      @Jann75@Jann753 ай бұрын
    • nezumi’s video essays go by quick it’s always surprisingly to me! they stay pretty down to earth and self aware about the material they’re covering it’s quite refreshing honestly

      @esteboi3858@esteboi38583 ай бұрын
    • @@esteboi3858 “go by quick” is definitely a good way to describe it This is my first vid on this channel (can’t wait to check out more lol) and even though it’s a familiar topic the video is just so well put together it never drags on. An absolute delight to watch.

      @zerareota1560@zerareota15603 ай бұрын
    • plus her essays have such amazing rewatchability!!

      @starlitcentaur@starlitcentaur3 ай бұрын
  • Fnaf being a decade old is the real horror of this series 😔. I was at my coworker's house a while ago and her 9 year old son kept playing the 1st fnaf living tombstone song and I had the chilling realization that this child was not yet born when fnaf came out.

    @roserocksrapidly@roserocksrapidly3 ай бұрын
  • I honestly just assumed that Micheal Afton was kind of...possessing / haunting his own corpse. He was killed in a pretty brutal manner and piloted around like a reverse mech suit. Given his unfinished buissness, and the precident of haunted things in the series (animatronics) I don't see why Michael possessing / hauning his own corpse is out of the question, or rather would have been.

    @VakovoSheggorri@VakovoSheggorri3 ай бұрын
    • OR he could possess the endo of enard that was still in his body...cause at fnaf 6 we see that enard lost it's endo and only wires so he could possess the endo inside of his body because if he could possess his corpse than it's kinda just more stranger than remnant

      @Ryoba__chan@Ryoba__chanАй бұрын
    • @@Ryoba__chan i had assumed the wires WERE ennerds endo skeleton. As in the instead of an endo skeleton those animatronic's had the wires inside of them, which could be configured and worked with easier or some such, lead to diffrent forms of movement or whatever, I dunno. But its always been my assumption that the endo skeleton for the sister location animatronics *is* the wires.

      @VakovoSheggorri@VakovoSheggorriАй бұрын
    • @@VakovoSheggorriand enard had his endo I think like do you saw how he's looks was ? I think if they get rid of most of rogans they could use michaels body and enter it like how endo's enter into another costumes Bassicly it would help them get full control of body how they would control the body of man if they all just wires inside him with the fact most of his organs or bones in arms more likely broken??? it would be just more simplier to use their own endo but I guess elizebeth being litteral child didn't knew bodys can rot...ahhaha :> it's kinda cool detail.. and more likely they could not leave body of michael after they notice something was wrong because endo completely was stuck (they just couldn't exist because because endo kind of was skelleton structure for michael's body!)

      @Ryoba__chan@Ryoba__chanАй бұрын
    • @@Ryoba__chan my assumption is that the wires act like muscles. Muscle fibres and such, moving around in groups to form what amounts to a metal muscle structure, each wire can move independently so moving them together would provide the structure needed for such a thing, does that make sense? And Michele body completely crumpled after they left, so I'd assume no endo was left over inside of him. Because he collapsed like a dry bones.

      @VakovoSheggorri@VakovoSheggorriАй бұрын
    • @@VakovoSheggorri hmm it makes sense but still aren't it would make some parts of him notstanding ? I mean the fact wires couldn't control his whole body if michel is 2m long and plus why did check size of michael if they just gonna enter with wires hmm... and I though they entered with endo because they used michael body easily and walked not humanly but how they would with endo

      @Ryoba__chan@Ryoba__chanАй бұрын
  • This video was boss. It's rare to look at the plot straightforwardly without the wild speculation, this really brought us back to what we know. It's a shame we didn't get some more mechanical analysis but what you've covered is still very comprehensive. It's also nice to see you address the more obvious financial issues with the series with nuance and tact. Oh and the bit with Scraptrap and Michael made me laugh my head off.

    @SpanielTower@SpanielTower3 ай бұрын
  • 1:19:12-1:20:01 Peter dropping the hardest monologue to a random person in the bathroom has to be the funniest thing I’ve seen all week and 1:13:28-1:14:33 just pure gold here

    @thetortoise5980@thetortoise59803 ай бұрын
    • His name is Henry.

      @christophermetcalf7540@christophermetcalf75403 ай бұрын
    • @@christophermetcalf7540 ik but the Peter griffin in the background is funny asf to me

      @thetortoise5980@thetortoise59803 ай бұрын
    • @@thetortoise5980 Also, as far as 1:13:28 goes, I am sad we did not get that in the actual game. Would've been great to have father and son argue and insult each other during the whole salvage process, with Micheal giving a good shock to old Willie when it looks like he's about to pounce.

      @christophermetcalf7540@christophermetcalf75403 ай бұрын
    • @@christophermetcalf7540 agreed

      @thetortoise5980@thetortoise59803 ай бұрын
    • That meme is where I originally heard the monologue and it legit got me reinterested in the series

      @beesinpyjamas9617@beesinpyjamas96173 ай бұрын
  • “the gangly purple man who was unfortunately british” i already know i’m gonna love this video

    @dreamerkitten6683@dreamerkitten66833 ай бұрын
  • The use of Prushka Sequence when talking about a little girl killed by her father’s creation is so terribly, tragically perfect and one of the smartest subtle choices I have ever seen in a video essay. I don’t know what the venn diagram of People Who Know is but it did not go unnoticed. The effort you put into these videos is astounding.

    @noradora5713@noradora57133 ай бұрын
    • When I heard the MIA soundtrack I lost it Hello friend in the venn diagram

      @TheDigitalWeeb@TheDigitalWeeb3 ай бұрын
    • Oh no.. the tears, the pain, dammit the flashbacks are coming back

      @Datsyoashley@Datsyoashley2 ай бұрын
    • Glad I’m not the only one who noticed

      @envviro@envviro2 ай бұрын
  • something that never fails to impress me is your ability to write conclusions that hit right in the feels. there's just something so effortless about the way you string cathartic imagery into something emotional and maybe even a bit melancholic, yet still endlessly forward-driving and unerring it really does capture the experience of something important to you coming to an end and all the bittersweetness that entails, but also the follow-up excitement towards whatever wonders still await you on the path you've claimed as your own

    @hi-i-am-atan@hi-i-am-atan3 ай бұрын
    • I agree!

      @SpecialInterestShow@SpecialInterestShow3 ай бұрын
    • Also the part whenever Marcy starts playing Dir. God I love the conclusions

      @bippythechippy882@bippythechippy8823 ай бұрын
  • I was laughing way to hard at that Father and son reunion at the pizzeria simulator bit

    @CoralPallet@CoralPallet3 ай бұрын
  • I think my biggest gripe with where the series is going is that they just refuse to let william die, in more ways than one. The Aftons shouldve died and stayed dead in pizzaria simulator in my opinion, handing off the torch to another villain (which preferably for me shouldve been vanessa, but i do like how theyre seemingly trying to give her a redemption arc...just a redemption arc off screen. Yikes). Plus, with all respect to matpat and what hes done for fnaf, he also seems to refuse to let the afton storyline go, which is making a hefty portion of the community do the same thing. But maybe scotts love for rewriting the lore after matpat gets something right will work in my personal favor lol. Luckily though, i think theyre slowly wading away from the aftons, but who knows 😮‍💨 I really do like the new age stuff, even though i do think its gotten much to child friendly and frankly, boring. Its got some amazing potential (potential that ive decided to start writing my own version of the story lol), and i really hope it works out in the end.

    @axthxrn@axthxrn3 ай бұрын
    • In my opinion the aftons should already be dead after Fnaf 3 lol

      @Wizardjones69@Wizardjones693 ай бұрын
    • The Mimic: 😎

      @elijahbarber111@elijahbarber1113 ай бұрын
    • @@elijahbarber111 yeah I'm actually kind of glad for the mimic. I hate that it came out of nowhere but it does take the focus off of the aftons

      @axthxrn@axthxrn3 ай бұрын
    • I agree with you; Vanessa should have taken over as an antagonist. She should’ve been like a copycat killer. (Maybe have her be a survivor of one of William’s many murders, “The One That Got Away” became a mirror image of the monster she encountered so many years ago.) And Glitchtrap should’ve been a tool that *she* made, to spy on and infect the company’s animatronics and electronic equipment; sort of like what it did in the AR Emails.

      @B-zk9bt@B-zk9bt3 ай бұрын
    • The Fazbear Frights epilogues: 🥺

      @HassenOsnel@HassenOsnelАй бұрын
  • "There's no holes in the plot, just holes in your understanding" - Scott Cawthon

    @DelphiBellatrixRiddle@DelphiBellatrixRiddle2 ай бұрын
    • "There's no holes in my pants, just holes in your vision." - Scott Cawthon

      @bitshox1215@bitshox12152 ай бұрын
    • @@bitshox1215 "theres no holes in my story"-scott cawton

      @Wizardjones69@Wizardjones692 ай бұрын
    • W scott

      @user-lq7nq1dg8u@user-lq7nq1dg8uАй бұрын
    • "No u" -Scoot Caw-Caw

      @Rad-Dude63andathird@Rad-Dude63andathirdАй бұрын
  • the bit with william and michael was so good. thats exactly how i imagine their dynamic at that point lmao theyre both so dead at this point and the only ones left out of the family so its just really funny

    @Claus-fh8cu@Claus-fh8cu3 ай бұрын
  • If you know Scott’s previous works, you’ll know fnaf world is the kinda thing he always makes with every franchise

    @ButterFromDiscord@ButterFromDiscord2 ай бұрын
  • I'm usually a little hesitant to watch FNAF lore videos because of how easy it is for people to mess things up or miss details, but I really agree with everything you said here (which is especially impressive considering my take on the timeline isn't necessarily standard these days). I'll always prefer the idea of the crying child dying first in the timeline because giving William any sort of identifiable motivation is more important than making sure whatever random puzzle pieces we have fit perfectly in the matter of creating a semi-cohesive story.

    @raxzity@raxzity3 ай бұрын
    • I totally agree about having CC be the first victim. FNaF 4's minigames just feel pointless if we're just watching some kid get tormented and die when William's already at full tilt.

      @speedslider3913@speedslider39133 ай бұрын
  • I wish we got some actual recognition from William during FNAF Pizzeria. Would've been so cool to have ONE scene, ONE line, one ANYTHING, where William goes "Son?" Something, anything. Maybe he even goes, "Oh god, Michael" during one of the jumpscares, since we know he cared about his children... at least to some degree. There'd be a sick tragedy in him offing the last of his children, since the last two were also offed by his twisted nature, if indirectly. Michael would've gone the same way as his father and siblings while trying to save them--by his father's bloodthirst. I mean, the fanbase almost immediately knew we were playing as Michael, because of the last game. It would not have been a surprise.

    @gem9535@gem95352 ай бұрын
    • Agreed, massive missed opportunity. Especially considering that Michael's goal was to find his father. I guess since they were both horribly rotten corpses for a couple years, they didn't recognize each other? Even then, still pretty lame lol.

      @user-xh8df9oz4y@user-xh8df9oz4yАй бұрын
  • Solving FNAFs lore especially during Fnaf 1 and 2 was soooo fun for me as a teen.

    @matteaelric9436@matteaelric94363 ай бұрын
  • Let’s talk about the biggest myth in FNAF 1: having to look at Foxy on the cameras. You don’t. Looking at any camera at all stalls Foxy, regardless of if it is the camera pointed at him or at the main stage or supply closet or even the busted camera in the kitchen. Opposite of that is Freddy, who is stalled by looking at whatever camera he is currently on. You should only be looking at Freddy when he starts moving in later nights, and not worrying about Foxy’s camera at all except occasionally checking up on him to see his progress. Just use the cameras frequently to check the movements of Bonnie and Chica and to stall Freddy, and Foxy will be stalled as well.

    @guts60@guts602 ай бұрын
  • I can see the argument that the story concluded best in FNAF3, but I just can't put aside my love for Henry's monologue, and for properly learning the backstory of my favourite animatronic, the Puppet.

    @Warclam@Warclam3 ай бұрын
    • It sounds cool in game but is kinda bad the more you think about it

      @Ben-zg8xk@Ben-zg8xk3 ай бұрын
  • I'd say Fnaf had a good story, but only until about the 3rd or 4th game. Up to UCN is interesting but if I need external media to understand what's going on, something is wrong. And something is definitely wrong with everything after UCN.

    @spritvio639@spritvio6393 ай бұрын
    • The 3rd game the 4 game story is really bad especially if it was all trying hint to dream theory.

      @Sonicmid@Sonicmid3 ай бұрын
    • what's wrong with the new games' lore? Yeah I understand some of it having to be understood through books, but isn't that like literally it?

      @anorak3334@anorak33343 ай бұрын
    • ​@@anorak3334 28 books. Its not the fact that you have to read a book, its the fact you have to read 28 books.

      @x-verse1751@x-verse17513 ай бұрын
    • @@x-verse1751 So would you say that Warhammer 40k lore is bad too

      @omega9216@omega92163 ай бұрын
    • @@omega9216 I never said that the lore is bad, its just the fact that you pretty much have to read 28 books to get a good idea whats going on at this point (this is specifically referring to the Mimic, although he doesnt appear in all 28 books, all of them are important in some way even if its minor)

      @x-verse1751@x-verse17513 ай бұрын
  • definetly not the right video to comment this but GOD i forgot how good scott was as the phone guy holy shit. his call in fnaf 2 recounting the what they found out is so incredibly well done and just, just like all of the other calls characterize phone guy so well. i have mixed opinions on scott himself (or what we've seen of him) but goddamn was this well done, he could be a proper voice actor

    @tyraoqvist350@tyraoqvist3503 ай бұрын
    • Fr, if there's one thing that's always been consistent in the franchise, I'd say it has to be the voice acting. Even aside from Scott, the people voicing other characters like Henry, Michael and Baby do such a phenomenal job.

      @user-xh8df9oz4y@user-xh8df9oz4yАй бұрын
  • Henry's speech speaks on the power of really nailing the ending being capable of redeeming an otherwise subpar story. It was fine before Pizza Sim, solidly mid; more interesting in the puzzle than the solution. But fking two minutes of monologue manages to tie up loose ends we weren't even completely sure existed beforehand, and tie them up in a giftwrap bow besides. Make note kids: do NOT botch your ending.

    @jessielefey@jessielefey3 ай бұрын
    • (And nailing the ending means emotionally. As noted, it's not logically consistent -- dead god, the timeline issues -- but it IS emotionally resonate and cathartic, and in the end that's more important than making logical sense, else people would've been satisfied with FNAF4.)

      @jessielefey@jessielefey3 ай бұрын
    • I love ffps for that, it's definitely my favorite one. henry absolutely COOKED

      @eggi4443@eggi444318 күн бұрын
  • I broke out laughing at the exchange you had with Michael and William bloody brilliant work Nezumi. I love hearing your perspective on the story!

    @icypika@icypika3 ай бұрын
  • As a self proclaimed "Lore-er" since the ripe age of 12 (when the games first came out, I'm 21 now-), I must say I absolutely ADORE this video! I would give it a thousand likes if I could!! I know the ins-and-outs of FNaF lore like the back of my hand (well, up until the Steel Wool Era at least). Every theory, every interpretation, every bit of fandom reception, I've seen it all throughout the years and have it all cataloged in the core parts of my brain! I think it's safe to say the series is a special interest of mine LMAO (I can even infodump to you about the history of the fan songs, but that's a conversation for another day-)... But most of all, the story-telling aspect of FNaF has always been the most intriguing to me-- since middle school I've been cycling through several of my own interpretations/AUs-- so it was very nice to see someone I look up to delve into those aspects as well! I'm tired of the theories and fandom in-fighting, can't we just enjoy what's been given to us for what it is as it is? And speaking of- I've been in the depths of the fandom from time to time, and it felt SO refreshing to see someone actually agree with me on most of my opinions and theories! The amount of people who act as if Midnight Motorist is 100% canonically about the Aftons... You're honestly the first person I've come across who believes it's actually about a victim instead. And BOY did I feel vindicated over that 😭 The first 3 games I hold near and dear to my heart, as well as the 3 that follow (albeit in different ways). And admittedly, I do have a soft spot for Help Wanted and some aspects of Security Breach. However, I... can't really get into the new games. Everything I've known and loved-- everything I've accumulated in an attempt to understand the series that quite literally made me-- is different now... It's changed so much and it honestly feels like someone tore up a quilt I was making before I could even finish it. It's... disheartening at best, to think about it. Or at least it used to be. I think this video helped me realized that, hell, it's been nearly 10 years! Special interest or not, it's okay if the series gives way to a new era. I'll still have what was given to me. And if push comes to shove, I can always just pretend the new games don't exist LMAO In any case! Sorry, that's a lot of words, but I wanted to express how special this video was to me. And even still I feel like I didn't say enough... I'll spare you to blabbering though, I'm sure you get the point. ALSO KAGEPRO RETROSPECTIVE WHEN?? Speaking of special interests, don't even get me started!

    @MoonlightWhite@MoonlightWhite3 ай бұрын
  • Dude the Michael and Peanut Afton argument had me on the floor, this video was hilarious

    @ariariari7138@ariariari71383 ай бұрын
    • Cute pfp :3

      @bonthebunnycat667@bonthebunnycat6672 ай бұрын
  • i'm blown away by the realization that orange guy and purple guy are not the same person. it seems so obvious in hindsight, but i think at that point in the fandom, most of my exposure to fnaf theorizing was what i saw on game theory, so i never considered alternatives much until more recently. at the time, i remember people complaining "why would they make him orange if he's supposed to be purple guy?? that just makes it more confusing!!" when like. this was ONE time in fnaf where i think they were actually trying to give us a straight answer lol: it's NOT purple guy, which is why he's not purple. JR's isn't some freddy's location, it's just a bar this guy is banned from to demonstrate he's an alcoholic. they're trying to show us what kind of children might be most vulnerable to william afton's manipulation: kids with rough home lives. plus, i always thought it was strange that the crying child would sneak out to go to freddy's when we know he's terrified of the place, and it didn't make sense to me that his father would be mad at him for going there when he owns the joint & presumably forced the kid into having a party there. however, i will say i don't agree with the reasoning given in this video for why orange guy and purple guy are not the same person. i certainly don't think this was the intended way to read it, but in my experience, sometimes the people who carry the most intense grief over someone's death are the people who treated them the worst in life. like, imagine if the last interaction orange guy had with his son (or i guess his son's empty room) was the one we saw in the midnight motorist cutscene. he's angry, he's violent, he's assured that he'll make his son sorry when he comes back. and then his son doesn't come back. imagine if they had many interactions like that. imagine the GUILT the father would feel. i know a couple people in my life who still haven't gotten over the death of a relative from years ago, like bring-it-up-every-chance-they-get levels of haven't gotten over it, and they treated this person like a nuisance when she was alive. the only one in that family who's managed to grieve and move on is the one who had helped and respected her the most. so, no, i don't think orange guy is the purple guy, but honestly i would've loved if we'd had a storyline something like that. william afton treats his youngest son terribly, doesn't listen when his son says he doesn't want to go to freddy's for his birthday, that he's scared, and then the child is KILLED *by* one of the animatronics at the very restaurant he didn't want to go to. william is riddled with guilt, most of which he projects onto his eldest son for being the one to put the crying child too close to the animatronics in the first place, but deep down, william knows it's his fault, too. he just wants to start over, wants a second chance to raise his son better, to be forgiven. so, he kills countless other children to try and create ghosts, all experiments in resurrection so he can try to bring his son back. as much as william is starting to recognize his faults, he still can't help but try to justify them to himself. as he kills more and more children, he convinces himself that their suffering doesn't really matter, since it's for a good cause, and, surely, the same was true of his son, yes? his son will understand all the hurt he was put through and forgive his father. maybe there's not even anything to forgive him for. maybe he WAS right. afton goes from a horribly guilty father trying to fix his mistakes, to a madman convinced he was right all along and that his son was unfairly ripped from him by micheal, and that HE'S the real problem with the family. william jumps through so many hoops to justify his actions and avoid his guilt, that eventually he barely even remembers why he's doing all this. he just wants blood. that's all he knows anymore. ((again, i don't think that's what the story is going for, but like, god, could you imagine?))

    @plushdragonteddy@plushdragonteddy3 ай бұрын
    • Yellow guy is William. They changed his colour because Mike was also now a purple guy and you can't have 2 of them

      @novustalks7525@novustalks75252 ай бұрын
    • Why does this sound much better than the story we got?

      @Ugubgugb@Ugubgugb2 ай бұрын
    • @@Ugubgugb LOL thank u !!

      @plushdragonteddy@plushdragonteddy2 ай бұрын
    • @@novustalks7525 I mean...Michael and William ARE both Purple Guys in-universe. Once you nail down the timeline of this minigame, if the guy was purple, you could pretty easily deduce this is William and not Michael (which is why it probably isn't meant to be either of them, hence the different color)

      @violetlavi2207@violetlavi220711 күн бұрын
    • YESSS this is exactly what I was thinking! Just because William felt desperate to save his child, that doesn't mean he was a good dad. On the contrary, it would've added a layer of guilt if he WAS a terrible dad, and if that colored his last interaction with his youngest son, the crying child. But this probably wasn't William for the reasons you said (especially because the broken window makes it very plausible that the child of yellow guy was lured away by Springtrap William)

      @violetlavi2207@violetlavi220711 күн бұрын
  • I love that we're keeping lore character "that guy who has no name and is always in a biker helmet" from the Silent Hill 1 video 1:23:13 Love that guy

    @crpalstuck2966@crpalstuck29663 ай бұрын
  • I honestly wish you were a bigger fan of Remnant, because I think the stuff makes a significant contribution to a thematic read of the FNaF narrative when you look at it like this: Remnant isn’t just metal imbued with memory, it’s metal imbued with *pain,* with the trauma and agony and rage of the murdered children. The very *metal inside* the animatronics is warped by the murder victims’ lingering emotions into a supernatural substance with strange properties. The most important of these properties is that Remnant seems to be *infectious*, given you can melt it down to inject it into a new machine and pass the haunting on, and its effects could even be passed to the mostly-human Michael. The most important metaphor a ghost story can have, for me, is a metaphor about lingering consequences, and the way our actions and feelings affect other people after we die. Remnant, silly plot device though it is, makes that metaphor manifest, as a sci-fi-tinged medium through which *even inanimate objects* can be traumatized by the obscenities William Afton committed, their metallic hearts filled with the leftover agony of previous victims. I think the Steel Wool games, for all their flaws, accidentally take this metaphor to its most cutting extreme by refusing to allow some of the old animatronics to die. William is still around, there are lingering remnants of Molten Freddy, there might even be echoes of the puppet… and this implies that Remnant can *never* be purified. Even if the memories can be burnt out of it, the agony and hatred psychically scarred into the metal will always remain, acting as an animating force that drives animatronics to enact more suffering on the world. In that sense, Remnant is more than just a sci-fi replacement for haunting, it’s a *burning condemnation* of the entire *concept* of a ghost, metaphorically suggesting that when we die, we are only survived by the worst parts of ourselves, by our fury and our suffering, and that once those parts of us escape into the world they will continue to be passed on to other people, and they can never truly be put to rest. To me, that is *bone-chilling* horror, and it makes this stupid soul goop into an unexpectedly meaningful narrative device.

    @a.dykeman1980@a.dykeman19803 ай бұрын
    • This is an incredibly well-written take

      @gekigami1791@gekigami17913 ай бұрын
    • it ruins the paranormal element

      @grathem9789@grathem97893 ай бұрын
    • I highly enjoyed the way it was discussed in the 8-hour analysis by the channel GiBi's Good idea, Bad idea. Really gave me an appreciation for the little details, in a story that's admittedly convoluted. I personally love the parts of FNAF that are dark and chilling.

      @cranberryrosebud@cranberryrosebud3 ай бұрын
    • remnant is really overhated imo im glad the remnant fanbase is rising up

      @ThiagoBits-lz7yo@ThiagoBits-lz7yo3 ай бұрын
    • Okay but that definition is literally just what "haunting" is. We already can infer that the ghost children are in pain, that some ghosts just refuse to die out of spite, etc etc. The only thing that changes by adding "Remnant" as an explanation, is that now these ghost aren't here for themselves. It's now not enough that their own spirit is driving them forward. Now the implication is that there's this unseen force binding them there. A force that can be studied and manipulated. It somehow gives the children/victims even less agency

      @JHayes-lh7uv@JHayes-lh7uv3 ай бұрын
  • I'm thinking "Remnant" is just Scott Cawthon's convoluted way of reconciling his Christian faith with the seemingly occult nature of his works, by reassuring a specific group of people that these aren't *really* the spirits of dead children; just cheap fabrications. It's kinda like how the ghosts in Danny Phantom aren't *really* ghosts.

    @LeafRazorStorm@LeafRazorStorm3 ай бұрын
    • Yeahhhh Scott being a fundie informs his writing in weird ways.

      @Noname72105@Noname721053 ай бұрын
    • Wouldn’t be surprised honestly, the whole donation drama kind of exposed Scott Cawthon as someone who is as fake as Butch Hartman,but people still will defend him like their lives depend on it.

      @Cr102y@Cr102y3 ай бұрын
    • UGH!Don't remind this cringe retcon :( (about danny phantom) Problem with that the fact most of ghosts has backstorys of being human not being just cheap fabrications... as example nerd bullied ghost or the first ghost cooking lady who says "someone changed my recipt at school kinda stuff" and confirms that she was cafeterian at school 50 years ago or ember.... (Who knews they knew what wrong with her)....

      @Ryoba__chan@Ryoba__chanАй бұрын
  • No it didnt. Thats why it was and still is so fun to make your own interpretation of its story narrative and characters. There are so many ways to interpret and theorize and talk about the story, and through it i have personally met tons of people and have created plenty of things. Fnaf isnt a good well written or even understandable story. It is a mess, if im being honest.

    @I-lost-my-account-rip@I-lost-my-account-rip3 ай бұрын
    • You just not that smart

      @themonoworth96@themonoworth963 ай бұрын
    • @@themonoworth96 what. Do you have reading comprehension skills?

      @I-lost-my-account-rip@I-lost-my-account-rip3 ай бұрын
    • I think the first three games had a great story. They were actually trying to tell one without doing stuff to just to make matpat mad. The happiest day really felt sincere like they’re truly was a story being told. The only real problem with the original story was the dci. It also it was kind of sad that the MCI weren’t in the gameplay of 3 Although I will admit the way to get to get the true ending of Fnaf 3 is stupid like punching codes in walls is crazy.

      @Sonicmid@Sonicmid3 ай бұрын
    • @@themonoworth96come man it there opinion

      @Sonicmid@Sonicmid3 ай бұрын
    • Calm down dawg the video hasn't even released yet 😂

      @TES_735@TES_7353 ай бұрын
  • Your rendition of William Afton arguing with his son and wanting to war a rain poncho is SENDING ME

    @xstarrycity3627@xstarrycity36273 ай бұрын
  • the fact that william afton gasses his children is now canon is the funniest thing ever

    @Cyynapse@Cyynapse3 ай бұрын
  • MatPat's been real quiet since this video essay came out.

    @passedthevibe-check141@passedthevibe-check1413 ай бұрын
    • He's about to be quieter after March

      @WebbedManiac@WebbedManiac3 ай бұрын
    • @@WebbedManiac Pls dont kill MatPat

      @bubblesbomb8949@bubblesbomb89493 ай бұрын
    • @@bubblesbomb8949His demise is inevitable. He will be consumed by the lord of darkness.

      @Cr102y@Cr102y3 ай бұрын
  • The bit at 1:13:27 had no right being so well made. Hats off to the script writer and voice actors you guys outdid yourselves with the Bart Simpson improv-❤

    @dulldood@dulldood3 ай бұрын
    • Thanks! Haha, it was just me and my co-writer voicing ‘em but we had a lot of fun with it.

      @NezumiVA@NezumiVA3 ай бұрын
    • @@NezumiVA you two did amazingg, but ya also made me choke on my coffee so.. Try to be less funny next time 👁️ P.S. Freddy Freaker shirt guy gets points just for having that shirt.

      @dulldood@dulldood3 ай бұрын
  • what annoys me is how much open things the lore has, to the point people were denying stuff already established just because the Mimic is now canon

    @oyashirosamabrasileiro@oyashirosamabrasileiro3 ай бұрын
  • Fnaf isn’t so much an exercise in storytelling, really it’s more of a collective improv experience.

    @toyotatacoma1616@toyotatacoma16163 ай бұрын
  • "you might notice by the way that despite the game having four main animatronics five missing children are mentioned" My first thought watching this video alone in the dark at 5AM: "yeah one for each night at Freddy's" edit: 1:22:42 psyhce

    @DWN037@DWN0373 ай бұрын
  • I think 1-3 tell a simple and well told story. I think 4 and SL make it a bit weird. It becomes less simple and WAY more messy. I wouldnt consider it "bad" by any means, but its significantly more sloppy. Some prime examples include having two "Bites of 198X", and having "Purple guy" being different from "the guy who is purple". A huge shift starting in 4 is making it more character focused rather than idea focused, which is a take it or leave it concept. Me personally i like 4 and SL and i still think theres FAR more good than bad, but there is still a dip in consistent quality. 6 is peak and works as a perfect ending to the story, and i feel that UCN works as an neat little epilogue. I feel that everything in the Steel Wool era makes it go WAY more off the walls, and i feel like glitchtrap is where the series kind of jumped the shark. Starting with Help Wanted, it feels sorta like "Fnaf: The next generation" and leans FAR more into sci fi than horror. Theres still enjoyment to be had, but many story elements are downright sloppy or feel tacked on, like the existence of glitchtrap, the retconning of the original games as being games in universe, the mess that was security breach's canon ending, the insane things that happen in the anthology books, and so much more. So id say overall there was a good narrative at one point, and as time went on it kind of went off the walls. Tl; Dr; 1-3: Simple but very good 4-5: A little messy, but still good overall 6: Peak FNaF 7: A decent epilogue HW: Kinda stupid SB: Stupid HW2: (honestly i dont know, i dont know enough to judge it yet)

    @SoupyLenny@SoupyLenny3 ай бұрын
    • I'm gonna be honest... My opinion on 6 gets worse each time tbh. Especially when I think more and more about how it actually ends it. I honestly would say from 4 onwards we went with the stupid thing. Just stretching the story became even more obvious with HW and Security Breach

      @ghosty2548@ghosty25483 ай бұрын
    • @@ghosty2548 What problems do you have with 6? I admit I am a little biased in it's favor and that it's not actually like peak fiction or anything, but I think it wrapped up the story very nicely. It concluded the story of everyone that was still alive and I *believe* it wrapped up all of the loose ends of the lore (correct me if I'm wrong), setting the remaining souls free and finally killing Afton for good after escaping the fire in 3s ending. Although granted, the foundations that it's built off (4+5) are a bit shakier than the foundations that 3 were (1+2), I felt that 6 had a great ending given what it was working with.

      @SoupyLenny@SoupyLenny3 ай бұрын
    • I completely agree with this.

      @Sonicmid@Sonicmid3 ай бұрын
    • FNAF 6 is 100% PEAK. I do have the problem of the new FNAF games somewhat undermining the ending, but it's still so GOOD.

      @TheRealLifeKillerMoth@TheRealLifeKillerMoth3 ай бұрын
    • no way you called shitzzeria simulator "peak"

      @t-eehee7057@t-eehee70573 ай бұрын
  • The exchange you did with William and Michael was the best part you are honestly one of the funniest creators.i follow these days.

    @wineoneone@wineoneone3 ай бұрын
  • The most thing this lore ever had is the first game is the commentary where low minimum wage worker return to death trap because there were no other choice

    @cyncynshop@cyncynshop3 ай бұрын
  • 1:13:20 This was beyond perfect and made my night. Thank you.

    @ceres090@ceres0903 ай бұрын
  • To be honest, the FNaF narrative does have some interesting themes, but it is a goddamn mess. To me at least, the game's narrative is very much like a sandbox. No one really knows what some things are cannon or not or if this thing right here is actually significant or just A Thing, so we as the community can just... Do whatever with it. For example, I like making up things about Jeremy Fitzgerald's personality and using him in AUs to the point where he's kinda like a shared oc, lol. And really, that's where I find the fun in this franchise, which is playing around with the story using the knowledge that I have. It's also why I actually kinda like this new era of FNaF, because more characters to play around with (I also just really like Gregory and Cassie). Though I do understand from a lore/narrative perspective why people would hate this era

    @Mx.muffin@Mx.muffin2 ай бұрын
  • Nezumi I need an entire video that's just the "Michael and William reunion"

    @wanderingalfir3563@wanderingalfir35633 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for the british people trigger warning, I really appreciate it

    @tadesubaru1383@tadesubaru13833 ай бұрын
  • I'm so glad you agree about the FNAF 4 animatronics not being scary!! They're so over the top that they lose any kind of uncanny creepiness of something that's trying to be cute and fun but misses the mark. The first games animatronics will forever, to me, be some of the creepiest character designs ever. Love them.

    @mikibaumgart9553@mikibaumgart95533 ай бұрын
    • The toys are worse *coughs* toy chica *coughs*

      @Wizardjones69@Wizardjones693 ай бұрын
    • @@Wizardjones69 scott wasn't even trying to make her look scary man her design fails at being a horror character (even without the beak and eyes)

      @areeba7045@areeba70453 ай бұрын
    • @@Wizardjones69 There is something so unsettling to me about the toy animatronics

      @Sirensscales@Sirensscales3 ай бұрын
    • Maybe the normal nightmares but Nightmare was genuinely terrifying

      @jojobod@jojobod3 ай бұрын
    • ​@@Wizardjones69of course they won't be scary when they don't move like the stillframe robots they're supposed to be.

      @lukebytes5366@lukebytes53663 ай бұрын
  • I found your channel through Sagan Hawkes' OFF video, and I found his channel through his FNAF content. We've finally come full circle!

    @smallkidneyjoe4046@smallkidneyjoe40463 ай бұрын
    • Same!

      @misteryA555@misteryA5553 ай бұрын
  • I never really liked MatPat or his channel, and the best reaction I gave was "And he did never improve it. Meh, I hope the next person does a better job than he does, but if they are anything like him, they probably won't. I'll still miss and appreciate all the good work he did put in, I just don't like the abundance of bad he has haphazardly done." 30:39 Is ThAt ThE StIg Of '87? I honestly just want to redo everything that Scott failed to accomplish in the games and properly light up everything he did not pursue, mostly because I am The StoryTeller, along with the fact that I think there was a lot that Scott missed in his narrative that he could have done. Since he is not going to swing back at those opportunities anymore, I guess I will have to myself, and that is fine, as Scott did say he wanted to leave his story in the hands of the fans and even funded a fanverse initiative to accomplish just that.

    @emperorbooglitch8540@emperorbooglitch8540Ай бұрын
  • I don't even like this franchise in the slightest and I stuck around the entire time just because your editing is so consistently funny. The "MARK SAYS THE LINE" countdown followed by its eventual payoff was just Golden.

    @afineegg1040@afineegg10403 ай бұрын
    • THE BART SIMPSON CALLBACK MADE ME LAUGH SO HARD I COUGHED

      @afineegg1040@afineegg10403 ай бұрын
  • I feel like the lore got weird partially because Scott didn't have the mentality of seeing fnaf as it's own entity once it got beyond a certain level of popularity (not surprising since it happened so fast) and felt a little insecure when people guessed how the endings before he could release the games, so in response kinda just... Quickly scrambled to make up a different twist and add a lot more loose ends to avoid giving anyone the satisfaction Considering the crappy reception of his previous games I wouldn't be surprised if he still resented audiences a bit and wanted to spite people for thinking he was "predictable"

    @RaspberryPastry@RaspberryPastry3 ай бұрын
  • OMG HOW ARE YOUR BITS SO GOOD LMAO I'M DYING ^ in reference to the william and michael convo in the middle also might be cool to turn bits like that into shorts (it'd help to make them easier to share too)

    @zold5424@zold54243 ай бұрын
  • The WIlliam-Michael beef was histerical.

    @Seremy@Seremy3 ай бұрын
  • Five Nights at Freddy's is what I consider 'the narrative equivalent of junk food.' There's no fulfilling moral, no unifying theme, and arguably no character arcs. It's not a "nutritious" story that benefits you - instead, It's enticing because mysteries, and putting new pieces to an ever-growing puzzle, are pleasurable. There's nothing wrong with that, there's a place for that kind of storytelling. I consider CoD Zombies' story, and maybe even LOST's story, to be in a similar vain - and I love both of those, too.

    @Mega-Brick@Mega-Brick2 ай бұрын
  • This video really alines with many of my own thoughts on the series over the last ten years. I was pretty much with FNAF since day 1, and its been weird to recontextualize my thoughts on. it, especially following the movie. It's interesting to find how much my tastes have changed, seeing as I was at one point in my life someone who watched every FNAF game theory with each release. FNAF is sort of the poster child for my personal frustration with gaming fandom's fascination with lore. I personally think lore in place of storytelling is areal issue with modern game design and modern games fandom. That being said, I think the story is mostly coherent, even if in hindsight, you can really see the man behind the curtain so to speak. Like, I think Phone Guy really was meant to be the purple guy in the original version of the story, but when Scott went to write the book, he had to actually name and describe the killer, and once he had Afton drawn up, he decided to go a different direction. I also think Scott really was kinds letting MatPat write the story indirectly after a certain point. the bit with Mangle and the dog, feels especially too convenient for MatPat to have just guessed right. I think he'd wait for game theories and then pick and choice the ideas he liked and didn't like. I have mixed feelings on the new games. As games, they're kinda terrible, from a design perspective. They really are just repetitive walking simulators, with no actual mechanical identity or gameplay loop. And from a story perspective, they feel strange, because the first FNAF VR game, seemed pretty clear in its story that A digital copy of Afton's consciousness had been incorporated into the game, from salvaged pieces of Springtrap and that who ever played the game had their minds overwritten by it. So my assumption was Security Breach would be about some kind of effect from that. Like that vanny was the person playing the game and she was being mind controlled. But instead I have no real idea what was going on there. Afton somehow came back in a real body, and then died again? And also most of its plot is in a completely different series of over a dozen books? I'd stopped watch game theory years ago and stopped really paying attention so seeing how Security breach played out, just didn't make any sense to me. Much like you, I found myself uncomfortable supporting FNAF financially given Scott's political donations. While I don't think he's demonstrated that he's at all hateful person, it does frustrate me that with FNAF having such a large queer fanbase that Scott would continue to support people who act to erase those very fans from existence, as well as the seeming lack of awareness of the fact that the politicians he supports would happily demonize the media he produces. I was actually much angrier when I first heard about it, and sold a piece of FNAF merch I had, which I sort of regret in hindsight. Now I'm more indifferent. I sort of just passively observe FNAF from afar now. I saw the movie and quite enjoyed it. Matthew Lillard is excellently cast and all the suits look great. But I don't know If I'm interested enough to watch a sequel.

    @MaxM210@MaxM2103 ай бұрын
    • phone guy for never meant to be the killer, even in fnaf 2 it never made sense logically and for what was shown.

      @ItsSupercat94@ItsSupercat943 ай бұрын
  • WAS THAT THE FNAF RETROSPECTIVE OF '87?!

    @demitrischoenwald1436@demitrischoenwald14363 ай бұрын
  • So THAT's the Scott controversy. I see now, that explains the manchild I saw once trying to downplay it while not bothering to go in deep into it, he aimed others to share his same view on the manner or a more generous one while not properly talking about it. As if just telling his audience to do that was good enough, in such a serious topic no less. I saw the red flags but missed the full context and care to look into it to evaluate the situation properly myself, I'm glad you took a second to talk about it.

    @Eficiente_VSB@Eficiente_VSB2 ай бұрын
    • I might know who you're talking about, but could you tell me anyways?

      @endergeek236@endergeek23617 күн бұрын
    • @@endergeek236 I un-sub a long time ago, I don't remember the name. Sorry. He used to make top 10 videos.

      @Eficiente_VSB@Eficiente_VSB17 күн бұрын
  • ive seen other comments share this same thought but i love the term "lore-or" much more than "mascot horror". you can make any game a mascot horror game, but there's this weird specific niche that fnaf made that matches the term "lore-or" much better than "mascot horror".

    @bigfrog4231@bigfrog42313 ай бұрын
  • This was a great watch! Very fresh perspective on the series. As someone who's similarly been around since the beginning, it is very rare to see such a concise, unique, and satisfying analysis of these games and their stories. It also gave me a newfound appreciation for Sister Location.

    @rang2111@rang21113 ай бұрын
    • Same, I always thought that SL had the best story-telling in the franchise, and this video made me appreciate that game's story even more than I already did.

      @user-xh8df9oz4y@user-xh8df9oz4yАй бұрын
  • FNAF lore is great! But only the one in my head

    @perryisthehat@perryisthehat3 ай бұрын
    • word

      @tw0tr1ckp0nyficated@tw0tr1ckp0nyficated2 ай бұрын
  • Tiny note, but I adore your scraptrap / william afton voice. Murdoc Niccals with a bit more rot ^_^

    @moogandacasio@moogandacasio2 ай бұрын
    • Thank you! That was actually the exact inspiration for it, haha. Dgmw, love the original voice, just thought a decaying undead serial killer should sound a lot more slimy, lol.

      @NezumiVA@NezumiVA2 ай бұрын
  • Personally, the story had a lot of potential to be a good horror story of murders, conspiracies, and paranormal elements about children whose souls are inside animatronics, the problem is that after the first two installments of the series I think Scott got very carried away by the fandom and the theories that the community created and he thought: “Huh, what if I put that and this in the story?" Thus creating inconsistencies and convenient moments in the plot, proving that there wasn't a long-term plan that this would last as long as this franchise did.

    @maxojavierrojasurzua5746@maxojavierrojasurzua57462 ай бұрын
  • love the intepretation of aftons evil scientist phase being fueled by wanting to ressurect his dead son as opposed to him just wanting immortality like the steel wool era pushes, grounds the character at a point where the story was going from the tradgedy of the missing childrens incident and the protagonists just being caught in a bad situation with the humans not even being important to the story, only there to witness events like the bite or phone guys death, to being a scifi romp of the afton familys deadly escapades. it probably isn't canon due to all the way back in the silver eyes afton was happy to be springtrapped. but yaknow the character worked best when he was a mystery, the realism of just some seriel killer using their place of employment to get away with the unthinkable is scary in itself and realisng the animatronics are actually alive and knowing why murders them a second time. much better than he owns the company and runs it into the ground because he wanted to become immortal after seeing the puppet come to life. on that note, the fandoms theorys have gotten really out of wack, for some reason the main timeline theory is that aftons child is actually using different aliases to work at these resturants to find his father and the sacking over oder is cause he's a decaying corpse but like... all 5 original animatronics are there and the funtimes were constructed from the parts after the fnaf 3 minigame destructions. that has genuinely always baffled me and leans into the whole afton family story stuff which undercuts the focus on the missing kids incident stuff. other than that, yeah fnaf was a series i was intending to buy and play myself one day but after the political donations, yeah i don't want my money going to the republican party so i'm likely just never gonna touch the series itself unfortunately.

    @sonicmeerkat@sonicmeerkat3 ай бұрын
    • But that is what the story is though.

      @novustalks7525@novustalks75252 ай бұрын
  • FNAF's story made little sense until it was revealed that Afton was British. This explains everything

    @revolutionarylass5298@revolutionarylass52982 ай бұрын
  • Hearing you summarize FNAF while fucking Monochrome Clock plays in the background is making me lose my mind slowly. But now that I think about it, if the family conference happened today, Maria and Beato would be slobbering up Game Theory videos like mystery novels.

    @JanneSala@JanneSala3 ай бұрын
  • okay honest to god that father-son beefing segment was absolutely pristine

    @davidthecommenter@davidthecommenter3 ай бұрын
  • 3:34 "So yes, the book is canon, just as the games are. That doesn't mean that they are intended to fit together like two puzzle pieces." The Novel Trilogy is canon to the FNaF Universe, exactly how the games are canon to the FNaF Universe, same goes for Fazbear Frights: "There is a new line of books on the way from Scholastic! (Fazbear Frights) This will be very different from the original book series, as it will be a collection of short horror stories that takes place in the FNaF universe." The books are all canon to the FNaF Universe, however, that doesn’t necessarily mean they're all set in the same timeline, canonicity and continuity are two completely separate subject matters. 47:13 The name William Afton is mentioned in full in the credits of the games.

    @ender01o66@ender01o663 ай бұрын
  • 30:40 the fact I audibly cheered when The Guy showed up goes to show how quality your videos are. This was a really good analysis of these games' narrative!!

    @shiromatsunoki@shiromatsunoki3 ай бұрын
    • seeing them & Austin make cameos made me smile harder than I'd like to admit, ngl

      @Number1JettDawsonShrimp@Number1JettDawsonShrimp3 ай бұрын
  • I think that the one thing you missed is the glitch bear ending in fnaf world, and the other lore that goes with it (more happiest day stuff, the yellow sqaure eyes glitch bear it self etc)

    @1izZy_aft0n@1izZy_aft0n2 ай бұрын
  • i think running with the interpretation you presented is a pretty compelling and unique story that serves to just be a fun story. my ‘remenant replacement theory is the strong emotional desire can motivate you to live past death/injury. like michael came back after being scooped because of his strong desire to cary out his plan.

    @thetummytickler34@thetummytickler343 ай бұрын
  • As a fellow trans woman, navigating the often disheartening waters of disappointing creators who I'd been obsessed with in my teen years only to feel a sense of cold emptiness when I try to engage with those properties I'd enjoyed, it's refreshing to see you talk about the series sans the baggage before acknowledging the elephant in the room. I can't reconcile how empty I feel looking back at this series, but watching this video put me back in touch briefly with a part of me I thought died years ago that felt ignorant wonder about all of it. Thanks for that. I think it's nice to acknowledge and bid farewell to feelings I've lost touch with over controversies like this in an otherwise positive environment. You have my thanks for your hard work putting this and every video of yours together that I binge on release almost religioudly these days. XD You're inspiring to me since I'm an aspiring VA and opinion-haver about all sorts of media like what you cover that has long avoided putting myself out there for one reason or another.

    @caprat7357@caprat73573 ай бұрын
  • Amazing video, great job, keep it up. I spent the last decade and change having absolutely zero knowledge of about anything to do with FNaF outside of certain friends mentioning stuff. I did not know that I had been waiting for a video just like this, something that went through and actually explained things as they were without a bunch of extra theories and whatnot. But now I have at least a bit of understanding of what made these games so popular and why all that theory stuff exists in the first place, and I think it also helps me understand my friends better as well. So really, thank you, and great job.

    @pyrerite@pyrerite3 ай бұрын
  • In my opinion and after watching the whole video: Yes, it kinda did. In narrative terms i feel there is some nuance behind it, something interesting that just makes you wanna know more and by the end of it, the satisfaction is more than enough. Is it a narrative masterpice? For me, no, but i learned to appreciate especially with how it ended and i will preferably let myself believe as so. When you were telling the story in which you found it during the gaming experience i have respect for it, because for as kinda bullshit as it became on the ways to obtain it (the FNAF3 one being the undefeated on how stupid it was), it proved that you can get narrative from a game and it can work, i appreciate that a lot, even tho at one point you were forced to cheat on getting it on other way. This was a fun video and i will be hyped up for when the Apollo Justice video comes out!

    @kamikaze4311@kamikaze43113 ай бұрын
  • The fact that the new games didn't just let FNAF 6 be the actual for real end of the Aftons and all prior animatronics is infuriating. A perfectly good ending that wrapped up every last loose end besides Phone Dude and the box. And they threw it all away.

    @dracorex426@dracorex4263 ай бұрын
    • It is the end of the afton story. That's why we have the mimic and glitchtrap

      @novustalks7525@novustalks75252 ай бұрын
    • @@novustalks7525 Glitchtrap *is* Afton.

      @dracorex426@dracorex42629 күн бұрын
  • this was an amazing watch! five nights at freddy's has been my special interest for nearly a decade at this point and its refreshing seeing someone take a step back and acknowledge that a lot of the story is based on your interpretation. I've seen my fair share of videos trying to objectively tell the story but they never really hit what I like about the series, which is completely alright. A lot of fnaf is vague and a lot of enjoyment is derived from your personal experience and thoughts. looking forward to everything that's to come this year, retrospective or otherwise!

    @lavendori@lavendori3 ай бұрын
  • THE MIKE AND WILLIAM SCENE WAS TOO GOOD 😭

    @everlvrk6975@everlvrk69753 ай бұрын
  • 1:56:19 the most important sentence in this video. our society favours giving privilege to those who have "earned it", yet human interactions aren't transactional. someone isn't impervious to criticism or is incapable of harming others simply because they made something people like and have "earned it". empathy, esp. for the marginalized and those affected, is so important.

    @birchwwolf@birchwwolf3 ай бұрын
    • There’s a line between criticism and harassment people crossed with it though. As a gay guy i don’t like the politicians Scott supported, but no one in a democratic country should be threatened and harassed for who they support, if not you end up with suppression of people , which should never be ok even if you disagree with them. People boycotting him for it is fine, people threatening, doxxing, stalking and slandering Scott for it, hell no. It’s also surprises me that people didn’t put together that he would be supportive of republicans? Texan, Christian, wife and six kids… it’s just really not that surprising, it’s not like it’s a very unusual thing, just going off the last election nearly half of all Americans support the republican party 💀 i know voting isn’t compulsory there but it’s probably the closest estimation you could get unless there’s a voter turnout of 100%

      @Slider-du9rx@Slider-du9rx3 ай бұрын
    • ⁠@@Slider-du9rx And how exactly was that crossed? Doxxing was never a thing since all the info was literally public and all the supposed death threats were extremely exaggerated and treated like they were the average reaction when in reality everyone was performing damage control for a guy that quite literally donated the max amount possible to politicians that refer to gay people as abominations. If you think that’s how a civilized democracy should work then you’re highlighting the point that they are making,LGBTQ+ people are still being treated as subhumans who still don’t have proper human right that republicans keep trying to take away. You can live in Texas and not be Republican,that should be common sense. And that wasn’t even the thing that people weren’t expecting,most people expected that,what people weren’t expecting was him donating the max amount of money to a lot of infamous politicians like Trump and McConnell even around post-Covid so it was more than clear that Cawthon wasn’t just the average Republican. That,combined with the fact that the Fnaf community saved him from bankruptcy and yet still decided to support the politicians that want the worst for them,felt like a slap in the face in many ways. You can criticize the people that actually sent him death threats and also acknowledge why a lot of people felt betrayed by his actions.

      @Cr102y@Cr102y3 ай бұрын
  • Great vid! I've watched a ton of FNAF lore videos, but this is the first I've seen that tackled it from a narrative and character writing angle, and you did a good job giving a nuanced and thoughtful analysis of what makes the franchise great as well as its downfalls. Also, as a huge Dangan fan, I loved the Dangan music used throughout the video

    @olivia8243@olivia82433 ай бұрын
  • I adore your energy and your narration voice is just perfect. Your enthusiasm is great, your organization and structure is great, and you're so fun to watch. Thank you so much for this wonderful video!

    @Hyliara@Hyliara3 ай бұрын
  • I hope your cat gets to go to the vet and you feel better and thank you for this video it was really nice to listen to

    @JoelMcCary@JoelMcCary3 ай бұрын
  • This was a great video, man! I didn't expected, but I had a great time watching!! I'm here for more

    @weirdoss7@weirdoss73 ай бұрын
  • I've watched through this video more times than I can remember mostly because the 8 crazy nights cover edit to be fnaf is hilarious to me

    @bigboi8028@bigboi80282 ай бұрын
  • I kept playing your videos in the background when friends were over and they kept being like "what's that" and I just kept shrugging and watching intently as if in a trance and apparently that was a successful tactic bc we're actually having a watch party for this video now and they recently sat through the bomberguy pathologic video THE INDOCTRINATION IS WORKING

    @semeras@semeras3 ай бұрын
  • I mean no. Obviously not. Scott was just making it up as it goes. He just wanted to make a simple game with simple lore and then when it exploded people wanted more lore and games. At least that’s just my perspective on it.

    @Youwillseesomething@Youwillseesomething3 ай бұрын
  • Your takeaways at the end of these retrospectives never fail to make me reflect on myself, to stop and think and most times cry. I don't know what you'll do next, but god am I looking forward to it.

    @TorchiEmber@TorchiEmber3 ай бұрын
  • Fun fact about Golden Freddy in the first game and the Custom Night: If I remember right, it was a direct response from Scott towards the theorists that "something would happen if you set the animatronics to 1987" [since, that was and still is the funny number]. At first, it was just like any other setting (where you'd go through the night before promptly getting fired), but shortly after, a patch would unleash Golden Freddy to give some satisfaction.

    @mastermewtwo5503@mastermewtwo55032 ай бұрын
  • Oh my, you're going for the big bois Cant wait to see this one

    @kuroser353@kuroser3533 ай бұрын
  • As a former fnaf fan, I can confidently assure you that the answer is no.

    @jovindsouza3407@jovindsouza34073 ай бұрын
  • what i absolutely hate about fnaf is that, as a british person living in australia, william afton is so obviously not british (pj heywood is an australian living in nz and you can absolutely tell through his accent) ...his voice is hot af tho

    @nialeo@nialeo18 күн бұрын
  • Incredible video!!! I admire the way how you communicate your topics in such a straightforward, honest and funny way!! Made me laugh! Thank you for addressing the controversy as well in such a nuanced way. ❤

    @elzzebells@elzzebells3 ай бұрын
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