Before FNAF: The Strange Beauty of Scott Cawthon's Other Games
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Music in Order of Appearance:
Mega Man (NES) Music - Bomb Man Stage
Bjorn Lynne - Mystery Forest
Density and Time - Venetian
Kevin MacLeod - Newer Wave
Weatherscan Music - Track 10
Green yuo
Super Mario 64 - Water Theme - Dire Dire Docks
Monkey Shot Expert Stage Super Monkey Ball 2 Extended
bl00dwave - simulations
Monkey Shot Expert Stage Super Monkey Ball 2 Extended
Flying Hands - Falling Star
Caustic Window - Squidge in the Fridge
Kevin MacLeod - Canon in D for Two Harps
White Out - 1080 Degree Snowboarding
Sable Soundtrack - Exploration (Ruins)
Familiarize Loop - Forever Quester
Flying Hands - Domination
Iffermoon Soundtrack - Battle Theme
Joey Pecoraro - Jazz Apricot
Metroid Prime - Record of Samus
Kevin MacLeod - Canon in D for Two Harps
Cut the Rope Theme
Bjorn Lynne - Mystery Forest
Flying Hands - Falling Star
Desolate hope Night theme !!!
Silent Hill 2 OST - Heaven’s Night
Audionautix - Night Rave
There is No Pause Button Music Extended
Dmitriy Lukyanov - Aqua
Kevin MacLeod - Townie Loop
Gavin Courtie Liz Radford - Pad Warm
Yume 2kki OST - Cog Maze
Chris Zabriskie - Is That You or Are You You
Haircuts for Men - Nothing Special Nothing Wonderful
Flying Hands - Falling Star
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i'll make sure to do that buddy
I'm having a gay awakening
why is ur name solar sans
i don't think even Markiplier could beat the piper.
It's very flattering, humbling, and a little embarrassing too, to have everything laid out like this; the good, the not-so-good, the kinda bad, the bad, and the desperate too. Sometimes I wish I could go back and tweak this history a little, but it is what it is, and you're very correct in saying that I'm no genius. I appreciate the care you took in presenting all of this. It's very well done!
Nothing to be embarrassed about, going through your games and animations was a fascinating adventure. I’m kind of shocked you commented. I’m really glad you like the video! It means a lot! If there is anything else you want to shed light on, feel free to, a lot of people in the Scott Games community are curious.
OMG HI MR CAWTHON!!!!!
I WAS WATCHING THIS HOPING SCOTT SAW IT Im glad we get to see scotts past, whether bad or not I love seeing the build up of style and quirks that shine though in every game
thats crazy, 15 minutes ago. other than that. your robot designs are sick as hell!!
Truly an inspiration for not giving up. It's the reason I study video game design (and the reason it's kind of scary too)!
Time traveler: Kicks rock. The timeline: Scott Cawthon, creator of the well known video game franchise, Fart Hotel.
*Silence* Whoever said “sticks and stones may breaks my bones but words may never hurt me” has never taken psychic damage
Fart Hotel: The Movie got Oscar and all the artsy fartsy movie awards around the world.
John Michael VSauce, Creator of the cherished Fart Mario series, counting 200+ episodes
Fart Hotel: The Movie would be a blast.
@@poweroffriendship2.0The MattPat cameo, owner of the famous Fart Theory channel is an especially nice touch
Making a game called "Bible Story Slots" is absolutely insane.
You will gamble in the name of the Holy Spirit
@@DatRandomInternetDudeNo gambling in heaven!
its so raw
@@cal_nitrogamer9648 AMEN!
I heard it and, WHAT THE-
"All library graphics. Except for the blob. I drew the blob." That makes it sound like he's so proud, yet also like something serious, something bad.
Screw Michael Afton the blob is the protagonist now
For me it sounds like he's saying "hey if you find the game, the blob is my fault. I know it's not well drawn, put the guilt on me"
TBH the blob had the best animation of all those sprites.
"...if I were forced to sing those stupid songs for 20 years and never got a bow? I'd probably be a bit irritable at night too. So remember, these characters hold a special place in the hearts of children, so treat them with respect." - Phone Guy (Scott) in Night 1 of FNAF 1. Seeing as most of his early games were made for his children, this seems a little more than just a quirky introduction.
Probably a coincidence but damn
Dang, makes me love fnaf even more.
It's "never got a bath"
shhhhhhhh don't ruin the moment okay@@OleksiyAntonkin
@@SolarSandsmy friend, there are no coincidences in FNAF
I love how simple the design of his short films are until the incredibly detailed robot eventually joins the plot
That's botheads 101
With those robot designs that are extremely detailed, Scott Cawthon could make a good _Transformers_ movie.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 they're good simplified representations of what the _movies_ looked like, minus any of the _transformer_
@@quantumblauthor7300Undisguised Robots
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The depression Scott Cawthon had that caused him to make fnaf makes so much more sense now It wasnt just because a single app got bad reviews, it was literal decades of pent up frustration from a tortured artist giving it his all. also it is INSANE how the human characters look like ass but the robot with a human face looks accurate, how the hell does that happen
Like how he can make a decent human corpse in Springtrap and in Pizza Sim, it's fucking Jimmy Neutron.
@@cha0trix493Fnaf 6 springtrap is actually intimidating..when you can't see his eyes
@@Stephanie-mv9iy Big lesson I took away from the Fnaf movie though the scene where Freddy stares directly at the camera when Mike's sneaking around was genuinely unsettling, it gets me every time no matter how prepared I am but the rest of it feels silly with 'teh evil red eyes!!'
@@Xenomorthian exactly
@@cha0trix493 The skull looks good, then you notice the ankle intestines and wonder just what happened in that safe room…
Idk if it’s just me but I love the aesthetic of desolate hope. Just so ominous yet beautiful. Mechanical yet organic. You can tell just by looking at it that there’s a story behind that world. A story we may never discover due to its apparent depth and detail. The run down machinery and overgrown foliage just draws my attention in such an inexplicable way. And I love it.
Have you ever played some old Capcom Arcade games like "Nemo" or "3 Wonders"?
@@MicheleDelGiudice-mykys no, but I’ll look ‘em up
it was a very interesting game, I would say it has the strongest subtext and discourse of all of scott's games yet I see next to no discussion. It was kind of a let down how FNAF gets all the attention to story and lore when it looks like a jumbled mess that obviously was not planned out very good. I kinda wish to see more games like desolate hope but i'll let the man cook
Agreed! I'd never heard of Desolate Hope before this video but I fell in love with the atmosphere, and the environment and character designs of the game instantly, I'm genuinely amazed. I love this kind of aesthetic and the execution seems great too, the setting/concept and the visuals are all so captivating. What a gem.
@@may___021 The game's free on Steam so... 👀 Fair warning: The game has flashing lights
After seeing Scotts earlier games, I've realized that fnaf world Isn't a fnaf game, It's a Scott Cawthon game.
its the most scott cawthon game there is 😂
It was genuinely a better game than every other Fnaf game except the first one
@@FloofMother now that a Take I haven't heard before. It's interesting
@@AldinRamic I think that Fnaf one is genuinely artful in how it told a subtle story, and was creepy, not by the character’s designs, but rather the context they were placed in, which was something that I feel was lost as early as Fnaf 2
@@FloofMother still better than Fnaf World
The “say hello to the trap door” bit was genuinely hilarious in my opinion
That scene is hilarious because it is unexpected, coming from a Christian show.
25:36 for anyone wanting to know exactly where it is
It really was, that line killed me
The “knock them out and drop them in the ocean” killed me
I audibly laughed
47:16 quick side note: those type of doors are a real thing, it’s a safety precaution so guards and employees don’t get trapped inside during a power outage
So weird how he chose to point that out as if it's not plausible for a door like that to exist.
It makes sense why they open when the power goes out, but not sure why they eat up power
Yep. I've seen fire escape doors with electromagnetic locks (you can force them open but it'll trigger a nasty alarm). As long as there's a current, that door stays locked. If the power goes out, you can just open it like normal and leave. Obviously that fact doesn't justify the FNAF doors _drawing down_ power. Maybe Freddy's runs on a generator? lol
Perhaps because I, like many others, acrually didn't know that 😅 makes sense though
The way he views machinery in general is almost fantastical. It’s so..unique. Genuinely, no other style matches it. He looks at a machine in a way I cannot process, like it is something incomprehensible and ancient.
i kinda love how scott went from making hyper-detailed robots, to getting criticized to making things that look too much like robots, then turning back to making robots
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as a homeschooled Christian I'm surprised how much scott cawthon media I consumed as a kid before FNAF even came out lol
Isn't it a sin to lie?
i'm curious if it does a good job sending the message on those media? Like as a kid do you learn a lot from it?
bro i my family watched pilgrim's progress before fnaf and found out way later they were both made by him lol
how popular were his creations in the Christian spheres?
you consumed a what?
I cannot overstate enough jow grateful I am to hear someone acknowledging that Fnaf's "oversaturation" or "rushed output" wasn't just Scott milking a cow for all it was worth, but rather that was just how he's made games. Man's got speed.
Is a critic that implies the games took no effort, despite the fact one man was putting in most of the work. That critic went around just cause people were tired of Fnaf fan work online, it had nothing to do with the real quality of the games.
25:30 and the jokes like this throughout are genuinely hilarious. I love how its also clean and kid friendly, without being 'childish' or condescending towards children.
You can tell how after The Desolate Hope, Scott was close to giving up. After his magmum opus flopped he resigned himself to cheap mobile games--a few okay, many terrible. It was clear he was very sensitive to criticism at the time, probably frustrated with his lack of success. He finally decided to give it one last try and the rest is history.
It's just like that image where that guy with a pickaxe was so close to discovering treasure, and Scott took one final chance, finding the treasure.
Yeah great summary of what happened @@_V.Va_
yknow what they say, 99%of gamblers quit before they win big
@@schippai3308 Quit or go broke?
@@_V.Va_ Either of those two I'd say.
Scott actually made those Metroid clones for his kids! Quote: "I actually made this for my kids when they were too little to play the real Metroid games. ;) That's why it's super simple and uses the biggest buttons on the keyboard!"
That’s incredibly sweet :,) I know Scott also loves replaying Mega Man 3, I wonder if his kids just like playing games where you have an arm cannon?
@@Glory2Snowstar Megaman too? My theory was kinda right them.
When new weapon in SL lmk
Never have I ever seen a Russell PFP on YT. Now that I think of it, that's weird as hell Hats off to you, fellow Russell fan
scott is an angel and everyone against him is evil and less than human and diserves nothing from this life!
Wait, wait, wait, you mean to tell me that those weird Magic School Bus knock-off videos that my science teacher forced us to watch in 5th grade were animated by SCOTT CAWTHON?!?!
I swear we've all seen something from Scott Cawthon once in our lifetime without realizing it
53:02 this one comment breaks my heart, it's from a guy who works tirelessly every day and somehow is still so humble
If you're wondering It's in a video of Jim Sterling (Scott's biggest critic) reacting to the fnaf trailer
@@tunasandwich8049Jesus Christ! just by see the creature I can see why and that this thing is evil and definally wrong! this is the same thing thant make that horrible critics of the duke nukem franchise, how I dispise this kind of thing!
@@elderjose9662 well Scott doesn't take it too badly There really is no bad blood between them and in fact it's thanks to Jim Sterling that Scott had the drive to make the fnaf series In fact Jim found the fnaf trailer really promising
@@tunasandwich8049dude that thing call scott a horrible people and say that he is evil and that fnaf fans just love to hate just because of the donations polemic, this thing is evil and less than human and diserves punishment!
Glad that people are finally appreciating Cawthon's robot designs because they're absolutely sick.
Mangle and end02 been my favs since FNaF2. Real ones been here since the start ✊🏽
They’re really interesting since it’s rare to see robots and mechas inspired by old toys and 60s era style of robots with tons of wires and tubings in this day and age of being either inspired by Anime or military equipment
@@user-pj1ec5om5g i think the enthusiasm just has to catch the next cultural wave
I never knew about any of the non-fnaf things and they're amazing! Those robots of his are top tier.
@@quantumblauthor7300same here
After seeing Desolate Hope’s art direction, I want Scott to do a similar game with a full team of programmers and animators
*ahem* That apparently caused some trouble with Security Breach, but he got out a couple of full-on VR titles and they're pretty cool. Good sci-fi going on in them.
Omg, yesss. Even something point and click'ish, lowkey like Darkseed and Garage : Bad dream adventure :D That would be so sick!
While that would be amazing, it’s clear that Scott relishes in being a one man team. Even in the movie almost everything was his ideas and plans alone.
Have you guys ever played the Capcom Arcade games "3 Wonders" and "Nemo"?
He would have been perfect for '90s point-and-click adventures, especially on the surreal side.
i have said it and i repeat it: scott was made to make robots. they are so unique and amazing, full of deteails and just incredible looking. i would love to see a new gwme of scott starring all of his robots designes, it would be amazing.
I’m speechless how Scott was able to create so many games and animations within 20 years and have never given up. I’ll give this man a massive applause for making such talented games!
It's oddly encouraging that it took Scott 17 years to figure out how to export with transparency.
give him a break he tried
@@lrkeribergaard6110most literate scotthon cawthon fan
@@ace-smith huh?
@@lrkeribergaard6110 do you know what the word encouraging means
@@ace-smith oh....damn i must be tired
The Desolate Hope in particular is an odd one because fnaf tubers DID try it out, at least a couple did, but pretty much none actually played more than one episode. To them it was just "wow look at this other thing he made, now back to fnaf."
Better late than never; Sands might've just sparked a Renaissance, and unless more FNaF property happens soon, an uninterrupted one
I think the reason why is that Desolate Hope was dropped by so many players is that alot of people at the time weren't ready for the Desolate Room/Hope style of RPG. Its such an overwhelming game that you need to be patient and learn its system. It helps if you played Desolate Room before it.
It doesn’t help that Scott ray bradburyed it into a pro life metaphor like a decade after it came out (I’ve played the game, the only way it is remotely pro life is that it has a baby in it) so it’s become controversial to talk about in some spaces.
@@FloofMother sadly that happens a lot, the creator puts a message in their work after it's been released when in the original there was nothing to suggest it. It's annoying independently of if you believe what they say is true or not
@@FloofMother Originally it had a message at the end that could be interpreted as pro-life, but he later removed that message due to controversy.
I ain't gonna lie, Scott robot design is hands down one of the coolest and uncanny design ever. I want to see a remastered or a new game of Desolate Hope
I boggles my mind that FNAF 1 was so unique in terms of gameplay, super balanced, had an interesting and well-hidden story, AND graphics that backup the creepy factor. Like, Scott really went ALL out on FNAF 1 and made basically the perfect launch title for the franchise Seems like those years and years of just cranking, optimizing his workflow, failing, and trying differnt things gave him a TON of experience. I'm glad he never gave up!
Scott really, really, REALLY likes detailed 3D Inorganic Models.
Greebling is fun!
@@quantumblauthor7300 that's a word i haven't heard in a long time.
@@momiji_number1daughterwifegood Greebling is fast food of visual design
@@Slouworker skin is the fast food of your body
@@SlouworkerPeel off your skin. Go ahead! Do it! Take it off.
I feel like Scott Cawthon may be the only human being with the ability of making the creatures and environments from I Have no Mouth, and I Must Scream as I imagine them.
I'd love to see his take on AM
@@schippai3308My favourite I have ever seen is the bird-like one, and I feel like it would be close to that.
scott cawthon totally played fallout 1 back in the day lol
I would play a Scott Cawthon adaptation of I Have No Mouth after watching this video.
I was looking for a comment about this!
the fact that even deep into the FNAF games, Scot never got the hang of modeling humans is hilarious. Like. How do you not notice the jarring disparity between how detailed your environments/ villains and human characters look? Its also apparent that his portrayal of robotics in Sister Location (all the tubes) has precedence, like, he was letting older concept ideas leak into FNAF, but really held it back, probably for the sake of staying on-brand. I’d be super excited if Scott ever made a modern Game that adapted the artistic style of Desolate Hope. It was clearly a work of love.
I remember how my dad found the game on Steam called "Desolate Hope". This is the first Scott's game i found about. It still have place in my heart to this day.
It’s interesting how even his old horror book involves child murd er. I bet it’s because he’s a father. When you have kids, them getting hurt so brutally is your worst fear.
Seeing the game where you battle images of his kids makes me think more games were made for them than what Solar Sands mentioned. Even if some are scary, some are still goofy and fun. I think he really was trying to prioritize his family in some way (other than financial)
@@mynameisambertoo7379true! especially considering he’s said that he let his kids play-test some of the fnaf games and even gave them money as a prize for beating ultimate custom night challenges
Scott has always been a tech sci-fi boy, explains how much he sucks with human models yet is a f*cking wizard when it comes to technology and wires and stuff with the animatronics in fnaf, guy's a robotics dude at heart Edit: comment section's quite um....chaotic, guys😅
Because it isn’t difficult. It’s geometric shapes primarily, and there’s nothing really to compare it to so you don’t have to worry about proportions or uncanny valley because that’s the entire point
@@FloofMotheroh my God, why are you shitting on Scott in like every single comment you make? Did he personally hurt you or something?? Jesus
@@FloofMother Ok, go model a robot from The Desolate Hope and see how that turns out bro
@@spookz26 in my comments I have: explained a thing he did, absent of editorialization Praised Fnaf one as a genuine piece of art Given reasons for why I don’t particularly like Scott That is hardly “shitting on Scott in every comment” but I guess blind uncritical worship of every creator of something you like is part of for the course on the internet
@@bossman-jk9tl “let’s see YOU do better” is kind of stereotypical as the go-to argument for someone who is defensive because they realize they don’t actually have any rebuttal for what was just said to them. Very funny
Okay I was like "Huh, maybe I should check The Desolate Hope out" AND ITS FREEEEE?! WHAT?!
i love how all of his old games obviously gave some inspiration to each fnaf game. The Desolate Hope shows all of the design inspirations for Sister Location, Forever Quester looks like all of the minigames from Fnaf 2, Fnaf Pizza Simulator, and Security Breach, i mean the list goes on!
that last part got me emotional. An artist with unpublished, obscure works is infinitely more succesful than the artist who gave up.
He also had God and Family on his side, so give that a try :)
@@user-ll3kc4kq2d Please stop trying to push your belief on to others :)
@@user-ll3kc4kq2d wom womp
It's pretty motivational, honestly
@user-ll3kc4kq2d but did he have anime on his side? Well ig he did by UCN
i love how obvious it is early on that scott definitely has a thing for robot designs. i remember in a review of the earlier fnaf games it was suggested that if scott just left fnaf as a one-time thing he could have built a legacy as "the creepy robot guy" and sometimes i want to see what that alternate timeline would look like
I desperately want to see the "desolate hope gains massive success" timeline. those designs are genuinely insanely fuckin cool. ive never seen anything quite like them
Technically he HAS gained a legacy as “the creepy robot guy.” Sister Location’s whole character roster was The Desolate Hope’s aesthetic revival. Not enough caution tape and rust in that one though. Desolate Hope still has it beat on that front.
Was it a review by Jordan Underneath, by chance?
@@eugeniabukhman8533 yeah i think it was his
@@eugeniabukhman8533 God I miss Jordan Underneath, he was one of my favorite channels years ago. I still come back and watch his silent hill reviews from time to time for nostalgia. Im glad he branched into his own style of content. Though I do miss his review content.
his phone games make me feel genuinely interested in the lives of the developers of shovel wear
Im genuinely sitting here crying. As an artist who has all but given up, i was very inspired by Scotts art journey. Even at the point of giving up he gave it one last go and changes his WHOLE life. I hope maybe one day i can find that spark i had for almost 20 years.
Scott Cawthon is a rare example of the American Dream in motion in the modern era.
The state of the franchise today: a more common example
This happens all the time on KZhead.. Mr. Beast ECT.
Id say a more important lesson is to enjoy the journey and not just expect the destination,
@quantumblauthor7300 can you elaborate?
@@OkPe-ww5rs most last-stage success stories don't reflect the original dreams
The desolate hope is honestly so visually incredible, wild how it’s just forgotten.
Fun fact, The Desolate Hope has a fan song (and as far as I know, is the only non-FNAF fan song made for a Scott game) It's fittingly called: The Desolate Hope by MiatriSs.
Yeah, Scott was wonderful for his surreal landscapes and sci-fi designs. The desolate hope is very near to me for that reason.
@@squedlly I would like to play a game with that same art style, but different mechanics because I'm not into RPG games.
@@LagrangePoint0 madman.. how can you not like rpgs
@@osycotic I don't really know, I have really tried, I the only one I completed (at least the main story) was Fallout 3.
The Desolate Hope kind of reminds me of Garage: A Bad Dream Adventure mixed with I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream, but with a more whimsical and fantastical vibe. I really like that 90s vibe to it.
You're not wrong
bro got roasted so hard he single handedly created a whole new horror genre "mascot horror"
Too bad everyone else beat it to death in just a few years.
@@spugintrntl to be expected anything that gets remotely popular will be milked to the point of exhaustion
25:30 lost my mind at “say hello to the trapdoor”
me too bro
What if you… Broke your mind?
Unironically a animal crossing MMO where your house and decor modifies your character and abilities is kind of a genius idea.
Cult of the lamb?
With online! It'd probably be lit but hard to pull off. @@nullybully
Not an MMO but close! I do like Cult of the Lamb a lot, and I think it does the best of that concept in the context of a Roguelite @@nullybully
It makes sense, in a way. The environment you live in affects you in ways that you might not even realise.
That's kinda like Amazing Cultivation Simulator, but it has a bunch of esoteric rules because its magic system is Chinese feng shui.
I've seen some people criticize Scott for being loosey-goosey with FNAF's storytelling. It's valid, but I think it misses a much bigger issue. Scott tried making intelligent art to the best of his ability. He was stuck in a dead-end job, and none of his most passionate works made him a dime. FNAF was a big "screw it" moment for him. You have to wonder, was Scott mad? If I spent years pouring all my effort into some projects, only for a random side thing to wind up being my legacy... I'd be furious. All that time, all that effort... and I only get rewarded for something I don't even care about that much? Why the hell should anyone care about effort when faced with such absurdity?
25:02 Maximalist is such a good term, bro was detailmaxxing before it was cool
I kinda wish Scott would consider taking another look at some of his older, niche games like the Desolate series and either taking another stab at them or making a new thing from their bones. The Desolate Hope is, legitimately, a beautiful, tragic, macabre game with a fantastic aesthetic. I adore the "sci-fi apocalypse" concept, with broken-down machinery, failing AIs, and the struggle to find meaning in a dying, mechanical world. I imagine, after his years making FNAF, he's built up his skills in storytelling and character design, so I can only imagine the raw, horrific beauty of another Desolate-style game that, in my opinion, could rival macabre artistic greats like H.R. Giger and Zdzisław Beksiński in his own way. He may still not be all that great at making human beings, but his machines and landscapes and his mastery of subtle, horrific and strangely philosophical narratives are top-tier. I'd adore another game in that style.
Kinda oddworld with it
He hinted at a sequel called The Desolate Abandon on a Steam comment. And on his letter regarding an assault on his house following the donations situation, he noted that he'd like to slow down and come back to making RPGs, so I remain hopeful.
@@LudiusQuassasi hope so too, he doesnt seem to directly work on making fnaf so now he can make other things, anything he likes :]!!!
@@SkullZie He seems to be directly working on the franchise still. Considering the movie was written (mainly) by him, and the games seem to be written by him still. So maybe some things changed from whenever he said what ludius is saying. Regardless, it'd be pretty neat to see a sequel for the desolate series. :)
He started mentioning suicidal thoughts to his doctor? He was working in retail? Yeah, that'll do it...
To be fair, it's a very good sign that he got his doctor involved; that's normally the weak link, is not asking for help. Really relatable guy, I hope he's doing better now.
@@oogalook it's fucking sad that his doctor told the assurance guys tough, imagine trying to get help only for the person you tough would help you to fucking make things way worse.
@@gustavoaraujopenha8463defo, he said that when his life insurance policy got cancelled he felt even his own death had no value. Must have been a absolutely terrible moment in his life.
@@gustavoaraujopenha8463 this is so fucked up, how is this even legal
The detailed and creepy robots trying to recreate humanity is something really cool and really creepy. I hope he takes that somewhere next. Drawing from the uncanny valley of these and making a beautiful backrooms like open world your trying to escape but all the creepy robots are helping you in some way. I feel like there could be some heavy lore to create and manifest and countless theories and some really fun/stimulating game play
19:48 This refrence to canned creamcorn is obviously based on the iconic gwimbley games.
Honestly, after recently starting my game dev journey, I fear that if I manage to make something trendy and I follow up on it, people will forget my previous works. I hope they don't.
I reassure you that your works will survive by their own merit. -My nose grows a millimeter.- I rescind past skepticism and say this instead with newfound sincerity
It’s not that they will be forgotten, but that most will never know they existed. That’s scarier to me
Newgrounds is proof that that is unlikely ❤ If you're willing to share your art is some capacity
As a CG artist that works in the game industry, I can guarantee someone out there will enjoy it, whether now or in the future, and in some way your legacy and memory will live on long past your death. It will not be forgotten. Maybe you'll never know who these people are, but art is immortal. Think of all the art history that has preserved since the very beginning of human evolution. I still discover decade old games long abandoned by their devs all the time lol
@@tomewifecollector9608 oh yeah, I guess the noblest legacies are those maintained by niche groups of underground nerds on a specific topic. Huh. You've fundamentally changed a worldview for the better, friend.
Oh boy, can’t wait for Solar Sands to talk about fart hotel
Ice Spice's favorite game!
@@Hadeto_AngelRustwhat
The robot designs in the desolate hope truly are fantastic.
That part from "scott cawthon isnt a genius" and the moral of this stort was truly inspiring. Something i needed to hear. So thank you for that.
honestly I love seeing the passion for sci fi and robots. Like it comes out in FNAF a lot more than people think, but like you said his maximalist robot designs are so neat and truly beautiful in their own right.
He managed to keep it fairly subdued until 5
it's there far back as fnaf2 if you know where to look
Scott's fear of not getting recognition for non-FNaF work is fair. He took 20 years to even get his name out there with stuff he did make, and most of it is known now because of the one thing that caught people's attention.Doing something new after making something successful can be scary, but I think you're right in that people will try to support him if he makes something he really puts effort into.
I grew up on FNaF, I experienced the beginning and as an adult now I respect and appreciate Scott’s older work. He’s absolutely talented.
11:42 "Knock them out and drop them in the ocean." I was not expecting that 💀
Desolate Hope feels like the story of Scott’s creative passion. It’s difficult to elaborate but it’s so wonderful how his efforts weren’t in vain. How, even as his other games got lost in the dark, even though he felt he was dying to himself, there was a purpose to it. That message of giving FNAF a chance and that he worked really hard on it made me burst into tears. I hope he’s willing to branch put once more.
I honestly wish people talked more about this part of Scott. Single-handedly making so many games, expressing yourself and values through a medium to the best of your ability, completing a vision. Its honestly inspiring and makes the success of FNAF well earned
It makes the success of FNAF mean so much more.
tbh I thought scott was some kid in his late teens/early 20s. Not some dad in, presumably, his 40s. A lot of viral indie games tend to be made by young kids who just got lucky, so I expected the same. But the fact that he honed his craft for decades before finally finding success really brings hope up for a lot of artists, myself included, that its never really "too late" to continue your passion.
@@jojo11254 Yeah its so far gone from the usual success story because it came with a lot of prior failure. Its honestly awe inspiring he did so much despite not getting the best results.
As an artist and animator who has made art my entire life, but with no success so far, I really needed to see this. I knew that Cawthon had dabbled in a few games before FNAF, but never knew just how much he had actually produced - and how much work he's put into projects that received no real recognition at all. It's comforting to know, that just because you haven't been appreciated for current and previous work, doesn't mean you'll never see success in the future. As long as you never lose your passion.
dang ur insanely skilled (checked your channel)
@@aahhhhhhhhhhhhh Aww thank you so much!
danm scott WAS BORN for eviroment and creature design! specially robots! there's actually a specializatuin in japan for this is called "mecha designers" designers who spend years studing how to create robot and machines design and scott just nailed it!
With his enviromental skills i bet scott could make a killing making and selling those animated desktop backgrounds.
47:16 i've always rationalized this as being a safety feature: if the power goes out you don't want your night guard trapped in their office so the doors require power to stay closed rather than to stay open.
Don't they say that ingame too?
@@Stephanie-mv9iyif i recall correctly, it does say it in the first game.
Now, yeah, it doesnt make sense that they USE power, but them staying open when the power goes out does make sense
I mean, how about them needing power only to switch or even being just mechanical fully?
Man, as a kid who grew up with Fnaf, this really put into perspective the craft of the games. To my mind in the past he seemed like a super genius, a man who had a definite idea of what the world wanted as a game. A masterpiece of atmosphere and sound design from free assets, and an art style of uncanniness for the game. A new form of gameplay. But he never was definite in a lot of these. I now see how his old games all together, make up aspects of fnaf. And it really shows how much what makes something special is all in our own minds, as we truly define the world we experience. Anything can become legendary, if people see it that way, like i did. Thank you for not giving up Scott. And thank you Solar Sands for this video.
The way you described it is incredible. Totally agreed!
I grew up with it too man.
As a kid that grew up with Rock N' Learn, this has really shocked me
Scotts aesthetics, especially with robot designs are absolutely amazing to me. I love how overly grotesquely detailed they are. They look both old fashioned, yet new and futuristic. I just cant stop looking at them, its like having morbid curiosity, you probably shouldnt look but you cant help it.
17:54 i was legit sleeping on the desk with my headphones on and that woke me up
damm
This video made me REALLY want someone to hire Scott Cawthon as a designer for a steampunk soulslike. I feels Scott's art style really lends itself to a soulslike with big scary robots.
Oooohhh, hell yeah, PLEASE
Why must everything be dark souls?
@@MALICEM12 because it's a fantastic template to build off of
@@sethd.8381 the homogenization of everything isn't a good thing. And yes DarkSouls is nice, but it's not the only correct answer and needs to stop being treated as such. It's the new assassin's creed model and I'm tired of it
screw dark souls, i want someone to hire Cawthon to make a Darkseed installement
I came across the Desolate Hope in a video by Lute a couple years back and by god that art style is so interesting. While I do find the success of Frederick to be impressive, one cannot help but feel as though something has been lost in the transition.
Ohh fk yeah, free games on computer
This is why I respect this man so much as much flack the FNAF games get for the story, this man worked so hard for so long and he finally got what he wanted (and yes he isn’t perfect but we are too)
His robot designs are genuinely great. He should've gone full sci-fi horror with FNAF instead of adding the child ghost cliche nonsense. Actual haywire animatronics are much scarier and more original than possession.
5:50 Actually if i'm not mistaken he mentioned he made foxy on a car ride... so sometimes he's setup doesn't even include a table.
We've finally entered a post-FNAF era, where we're allowed to say Scott made awesome games without someone hauling in a locker to our homes, in order to shove us in it.
That has never not been the case. The internet has collectively worshipped Scott Cawthon for one reason or another ever since 2014, and even before that due to other projects he worked on
@@FloofMother “collectively always worshipped” is a ridiculous claim. Like yes FNaF was very popular and overhyped at a time but I wouldn’t say he was always worshipped. Before FNaF no one even knew who he was and he got shit on pretty consistently. During FNaF a lot of people hated it because it was very overplayed and popular and some people thought it wasn’t scary so as the games went on that sentiment only grew (until pizzeria simulator where everyone decided FNaF was fun again) but even after that he got canceled by a lot of his own fans. He’s definitely got his fair share of flak over the years from both KZheadrs and just average people. Compared to another indie dev like Toby Fox, I would say “always collectively worshipped” is far from the truth
@@NopeNothingD9 “he got cancelled by his own fans” except the vast majority of people supported him during that incident, and even beforehand. Like do you realize that the amount of people who thought Fnaf was bad or cringe was a small minority, right? Like you understand that logically for something to be popular for a decade it has to be… popular for that decade?
@@FloofMother just who pissed in your cereal? You have had it out for Scott across this entire comments section, seemingly for no reason. Can you please explain just what your problem is?
@@jonahulichny9874 first of all, I have not “had it for Scott across this entire comment section” I said maybe two things that were negative, the rest were either praising the games he made that I liked, or without editorialization stating a thing he did. I also think funding blatantly genocidal politicians towards the lgbtq and other communities is pretty heinous and indirectly ruined a lot of lives because those politicians went on to pass a wave of anti trans legislation late last year, that combined with the fact that he didn’t do anything about ladyfizsi despite knowing about what she was doing for two years and then only taking action when it came out she wrote something that directly related to him (it was a fanfiction in which he and William Afton touched kids) that he actually took action, as opposed to her pretty open bigotry and doxxing of members of the community that had been going on in those two years. Also the way that he did the devs of aftonbuilt dirty was just kind of an asshole thing to do, not really morally evil compared to the other stuff. Like, just because he made a game I liked 10 years ago doesn’t mean im gonna excuse behavior that I would condemn in literally any other person
I think I feel comfortable saying that Scott Cawthon is the H.R Giger of robot exoskeletons.
Fr. All his works had this Alien vibes, maybe he would do great with another science fiction title. Man is a great artist.
Springtrap's FNAF 3 design alone already shows anyone that he's incredibly talented (its literally peak design), but the Desolate Hope shows he's a true master of his craft. Something was definitely lost in translation when he stopped making the games by himself
@@mz.projiekt I would love to see Scott work on another project like Desolate Hope where he can do that kinda art again because it's so uniquely insane and beautiful. The Desolate Hope has this deeply complex and psychedelic vibe where the surrounding environment mixes with the designs of the robots as if they're physically conjoined to it, which REALLY reminds me of Giger's art. Like an incomprehensible horror you'd see on a psychedelic drug trip. It's so good.
real
God, that "green beans and creamed corn" exchange hit me in a way I wasn't expecting, I actually barked with laughter
Solar coming in clutch with the references, actually been doing research about scott's creation for a big research proposal of mine. I didn't realise you made this so it was hard to find his older games and animations he made but seeing this and linking and mentioning his older creations is a life saver. thanks so much!
I remember using the desolate hope HD wallpapers from his site back in the day. That game has the coolest enemy designs Ive ever seen in my life I LOVE those robots
I still have the Malenz one!
39:45 “Bible story slots” That seems like very mixed messaging.
It is, I laughed so, so hard, bible story slots is probably the most heretical game out there, I love it lmfao
I mean, as long as it's not real money, right...?
One of my biggest random takeaways after watching this whole thing was that Scott would make the most banger Transformers game of all time if he ever got the chance. His robot designs are sick as hell and his background work, especially those involving mechanical parts, are friggin INCREDIBLE. Could you imagine how he would render a war-torn Cybertron? Or how his versions of the giant more messed up transformers like Devastator or Unicron would look?
I want to draw attention to the end of the video. Seeing Solar Sands talk about Scott's work and everything lead up to Scott's first success. After miss, after finnacial flop, after obscure project, seeing Solar praise the first FNaF is such a satisfying moment. And seeing that montage of all the fanwork and Lets Plays honestly got me a little choked up. Fantastic editing and build up on his part, and also for going through such a monumental task of playing nearly every game and watching every film from one man's catalog.
I think in the long run, Scott's robot designs will stand the test of time. There's not really anything like them.
I think so too. Especially now that AI art is spreading it's roots.
Shoutouts to people who played FNAF World and discovered the Coffee character from "The Desolate Hope" before this video was uploaded.
There are dozens of us!
@@RedSpade37 Epic.
I was so damn excited when Coffee was announced for update 2
@@Wombattlr I didn't know who he was but I loved him the second I saw his design and found out what game he came from.
and Chipper! Can't forget good old chipper (man that guy's boss fight had me going.)
My brain still can't wrap around the differences of Scott's human design vs Robotic/Animatronic design, like my god, that's a HUGE shift. Makes me want to play Desolate Hope just because of the environment (well I like landscape art sooo)
There’s no fucking way Scott made fart hotel, the fucking lost memory I have of that game…. I WAS OBSESSED WITH THAT GAME I DIDNT KNOW SCOTT MADE IT
As someone who wants to be a game developer this video just hit me like brick about how much work is still ahead of me. And the fact that my work can just be all for nothing is scary.
It will be for nothing if you give up. Keep your dream alive. Sure, have something else on the side but don't give it up!
Keep in mind this video is a success story. Scotts tenacity led him to success, scott would be nowhere if he had given up.
To me it's an inspiring one. Knowing that I can try and fail as many times as I need to. As long as I never give up, learn from my mistakes, and build upon what I've learned. Eventually I will find success.
Remember that game development has changed a lot over time.
Or you’ll die. The fact you’re here talking about success makes you come off as just a talker who’s wasting time. You kids act like you have forever. It’s sad.
47:17 its because it would be a fire hazard and probably illegal if a person were to be locked inside a room in case of power going out! :) so its a failsafe of some sort, however convoluted
That makes sense. There's no way Henry and William thought there would be murderous ghosts involved.
This makes so much sense, I hope everyone who has ever even glanced in FNAF’s direction knows this new fact I’ve learned 2 seconds ago from reading this comment.
Spare generators? Also they could just not put those antitank doors in the first place lol
@@dotdot5906 antitank?
@@dotdot5906 this is the Fazbear Pizzeria chain we’re talking about here, no one said common sense or normal decision making was an option. Could be interesting lore if the antitank doors were made as a shoddy response to constantly disappearing night guards, but of course I’d have to say that’s a Headcanon. Not sure how much Scott himself thought about the whole door debacle.
I just have to say that I love "The Desolate Hope" as a title. I haven't played the game, but I definitely will now. Just thinking about the title almost gives me shivers. I wonder if I will have a bigger reaction to The Desolate Hope than I did while playing Freddy Fazbear’s Pizzeria Simulator, which was my first ever Five Nights at Freddy's experience. Players became so desensitized to the Five Nights at Freddy's formula that the most stressful part for me was the first salvage segment (not the introductory one). When I died, I had a hunch it was going to happen, and my only response was "ah, crap." I didn't even really care. Hopefully The Desolate Hope is more engaging.
The Desolate Hope is great! Just be sure to check out the Steam guide for the game, since not much is explained. The combat is fast paced and overwhelming at first, but once you get the hang of it, it works surprisingly well and is incredibly unique (healing is "stored", you can set up minigames for bonuses, some of the most dangerous attacks are not always the most damaging ones, and more). The premise is also really cool and I'd say the story does a solid job exploring it. I heavily recommend giving it a shot!
I remember I was 16 when I first played The Desolate Hope, It was a bit before FNaF World was released, so my itch was still strong.I remember being dumbfounded by the robot designs and gameplay. At around 2019 I slowly became more and more distant from the FNaF fanbase purely because I found other interests at the time. But still that inner fanboy was still alive even after leaving. I'm now 24, and after hearing my friends talking about Security Breach and after seeing the movie in theaters, suddenly that little fanboy inside me is starting to wake up again. Back then finding Scott's earlier games was way trickier...but now I might sit and give some of them a shot once more. Hope one day Scott makes another original game that isn't tied to FNaF. And thank you Solar for the video. I didn't expect you'd cover such a topic, but I was pleasantly surprised.❤
It makes sense now how Scott managed to make all the FNAF games so high quality in such a short amount of time, dude had YEARS of experience pumping out game after game after game. All that was training for what was to come lol.
Makes me wonder how many similarly unsuccessful developers made the last cry before quitting the industry for good
Makes me wonder how many of those artists were more deserving of the fame than Scott (probably a lot of them)
This is what I was thinking, in another world he would’ve quit after his 30th mediocre title but he just kept going until something stuck to the wall
@@FloofMother He earned it
@@Zamntron no one earns anything in this world, we get what we get, all we can do is try to make the odds a little more even
Wertpol, the creator of Presetable Liberty and the rest of the Menagerie series, in my opinion, did not deserve his work to be ignored. It's about as tragic as his suicide, as his works within the Menagerie series have always been some of my favorite stories and games ever, and have been a huge source of inspiration for my work.
There's always something so special and unique about the art that falls on deaf ears and blind eyes. The moment before something blows up and even more so respected when artists keep doing that after a success on top of the most received projects. FNaF for me opened a lot of amazing ideas when it comes to my art in terms of music so i am very grateful to see the community be so active and agile about fan content. So seeing Scott's earlier works before the five nights franchise kicked off is quite amazing treat. Very artistic, to a point of wonder.
I actually downloaded and beat Chipper & Sons awhile back. The endgame involves creating three buildings without a preview on empty lots. One of which is a freaky tree with a face. It starts throwing seeds at other empty lots to make more of itself. The only way to deal with it is to create another bulding without a preview: A hive of technologically advanced termites who utterly destroy the tree. I am not even kidding. After this the dad finally sets the son up with what seems to be a beaver girl. You can keep playing after that, but without a goal anymore. Anyway, I am very interested in trying out the other games mentioned here especially the rpgs.
Scott's 3D models and renders for The Desolate Hope are genuinely gorgeous, I really wish he would put out a sequel to that game someday
God the art design of the desolate hope is so awesome. Scott went HARD with that game
I actually remember playing 8-bit RPG creator when i was younger, at the time i didnt know scott made it but i did recognize that the artstyle seemed familiar Its also amazing to finally find someone who has the sense to praise Scott's design choices in fnaf, ive never understood why so many people veer so far into the creepy aspect with the original characters when the whole reason they were scary is because they didnt look like they were meant to be Scott's horror is always either uncanny like 1-3 or extreme horror like 4
Notch, Scott Cawthon, and Toby Fox are responsible for creating the most iconic games of the 2010s.
His older games are actually so strangely beautiful I really hope he makes more of it Because Fart Hotel is a genuine masterpiece
Thanks for having me on for this!
By looking at the designs and artstyles of some of his games, I find it insanely impressive how he managed to make them in such a short amount of time. The grinding must've been insane