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Small error at 3:09, Kinkade was born in '58, must've got that switched around. Just a heads-up
Oh my god I've watched this video 10 times over and I've never caught that until now, well whoops yes I guess I switched the numbers.
@@SolarSands Hahaha happens to the best of mate, still a solid video so far.
@@SolarSands hi
@@SolarSands are you a mayonnaise musketeer
@@Used_Towel It made me pretty confused but ok
The George W Bush of art is such an oddly specific insult
It's the trump of insults
I know why now. And uh, yikes. We went down a rabbit hole real fast. Real heccing fast
@@AxxLAfriku Jesus Christ that channel still exists. Would be a shame if the report button would actually fucking work.
The "Barack Obama of art" would be much more fitting. As in boring, typical, hollow and uninteresting to look at.
dammit @@AxxLAfriku just go away already
"Thomas kinkade is the most hated artist!" Hitler: 👁️👄👁️
👁👄👁
KCNCHDJD LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
If I'm not wrong Hitler wanted to get into the University of fine arts but he wasn't accepted... twice
@@borednatsu300 pog x2
That's what I thought of as well
Pablo Picasso: "The purpose of art is not for decorating apartments." Thomas Kinkade: "Yes it is."
Kinkade really should've left it at that, instead of pushing this "Painter of Light" BS.
@@Inkan1969true. He doesn't live up to his own hype. That makes him a bad artist. Like a wise man once said "tryies to be x but fails miserably"
Yet his art looks great in living rooms!
That was in reference to Picasso comment!
Picasso shoulda shut his yap, because his art sucked outside of his Cubist period. That's right, I said it.
When I was a child, my mother had a book with pages filled with his work. I loved to sit for hours flipping through the pages, lost in the details of his pretty, cozy worlds. His paintings influenced my taste in art, and now that I'm older, his art is nostalgic for me.
It’s great art! The people calling people ignorant and stupid for liking it are themselves the ignorant stupid ones.
@@excellenceinanimation960yeah they are political worms
I once helped my dad complete a 3000 jigsaw puzzle of one of his pieces when I was 3 years old. I’m not an autistic savant but I am in fact autistic and I just happened to be really good at puzzles.
It's all in the eye of the beholder. I'm the kind of person that likes what I like despite what so called "experts" say about something or even more so what the general public thinks, I've never gone for fads and at the end of the day it's the walls in my home that something will hang on so why should I be concerned what anyone else thinks. And as far as all this nonsense where he dives into this guy's personal life and talks about his religious views and his drinking, I could care less, if I only allowed things like paintings and music into my life that were made by someone who could pass through some unrealistic filter of perfectness then my walls would be bare and I wouldn't own a device that plays music, there is no such thing as a person who can meet those standards, so what if someone likes to drink, it's supposed to be a free country, if that's what they wanna do in life that's their business, it's not like they're Charles Manson or something, I'm so sick and tired of everyone constantly looking to demonize everyone anymore these days, except of course for the people whose music or whatever they're into then they'll make every excuse for that persons behavior while demonizing everyone whose music or art they don't like, John Lennon is a perfect example of that, he was one of the worst people to ever come down the pike yet the same people that'll demonize this guy for drinking will quickly overlook John Lennon beating every woman he was involved with and completely deserting his first wife and kid because it looked like they'd get in the way of him becoming a star. Anything short of being someone like Charles Manson I don't care about what someone who made a painting was like, if I like the painting I'm gonna hang it on my wall, if I like their music I'm gonna listen to it without caring how many groupies he screwed 50 years ago.
@@Noperison Nah lol. For a "Painter of Light" his light in his paintings are always super messed up. It's easy to tell that he has a super basic understanding and just blew out anything near a possible light source. He doesn't have most of the bounced lighting or reflective colors etc. People can dislike the art for valid reasons.
Imagine being one of the most controversial artists that only paint cottages.
All comments are so seriously trying to explain how they feel about art. Yours made me laugh, thank you.
cottages go brrrrr
But he wasn't hated only bc he painted cottages
@@Evan-od7em wtf does that even mean? All I know is it's been repeated as nauseum throughout this entire comment section, but yet it isn't even making any real point about anything.
@@ninja_tony It's the "money printer goes brrr" meme. It means that those cottages make a lot of money.
"Thomas Kinkade is the most hated artist" Kinkade: **wipes tears with hundred dollar bills**
@Grant Worman THE HEAVY IS DEAD?
Accurate.
*wipes tears with the eternal fire of hell*
@Grant Worman nooo??? Really!!!!
Hated and rich vs. Loved and poor
I’m an art student. A week ago, my contemporary drawing professor had us research and discuss Kinkade. The discussion turned out to be a heated argument that split the class in two. By the end of the discussion (which was four hours), everyone who previously decided they hated Kinkade had conceded their argument in one way or another. Regardless if his art speaks to YOU, his art speaks to millions of Americans who find comfort in nostalgia and idealized landscapes. Kinkade might be painting for the masses, but god damn it, he is an artist who found his niche in a society that rarely values artists. He is an artist whose work speaks to HIM and there is nothing wrong with that. It doesn’t make him any less of an artist and neither do his “sell out” collaborations. Everyone admitted that if they had the opportunity to collaborate with major brands that they would do it in a heartbeat. Every artist wants that kind of attention regardless if they flat out deny it. Millions of artists already try to get their art out to as many people as possible by printing it on marketable merchandise. Kinkade’s presence in the art world is not one of laziness or corporatism, but pure necessity. Kinkade’s paintings don’t speak to me as an artist, and I can be fine with that while at the same time coming to terms with my envy and respect of his ability to make a living off making the art true to his heart. If anybody is still reading this, I’d encourage you to check our Kinkade’s urban landscapes, which don’t have nearly as much attention as his cottages. It’s fascinating to see him apply his signature idealized style with soft colors and bright values to the urban scene. Thanks for reading!
I appreciate your insight in this comment. I grew up seeing his art on calendars and puzzles or whatever and remember researching the artist as an adult out of curiosity. Sometimes his art illicits an eyeroll from me just because of attached associations. His story is a bit sad seeing as he had a lot of personal struggles, so I think that softened my outlook of cynicism I initially had. I looked up the cityscapes you mentioned and I actually find them pleasantly nostalgic and quite pretty! Haha I didn't expect that reaction and am pleased to have seen something new.
I appreciate your book about your class discussion
I’ve always quite liked Kinkade’s work, I remember my grandmother had a painting of his in her house and I always thought it was beautiful. Until this video I knew nothing about the man, however I don’t believe he is all that wrong about his view of the highbrow art world. Idk that’s just my take. Thanks for sharing your take!
I disagree about every artist wanting attention. Some people make art purely for themselves.
@@TomatoKing1817 yeah the idea of my art getting attention before I'm dead fills me with dread
i love kitsch stuff so much. it’s part of the reason i love flee markets, thrift and vintage stores. it reminds me of a gentle old lady. it’s comforting and familiar. there’s nothing wrong with indulging in that once in a while.
I am a rocker hitting the old lady cottage core stage. It is part just loving nature and colors, part because you can do it yourself. Part as a reaction to the two toned Kubrick designed modular furniture that I find too sterile. A rebel is a rebel. XD.
As a matter of fact yes there is. By liking and indulging in kitsch you dull the mind and close yourself off to the real world. Kinkade was the epitome of this. He work fills people’s heads with delusions of fantasy and distracts you from the bitter ugliness of the world. Happiness is a drug that numbs you to reality, and people seeking happiness in any way are just like hard drug addicts, clawing for any way to escape the cruelty and misery we bring unto ourselves as individuals and as a society. At least that’s how critics of kitsch sound.
@@thelouster5815 you must be fun at parties :)
@@-chloe-8728 Parties are kitsch and a distraction from the pain of life.
His paintings remind me of my grandmas house in the middle of rural Maryland. It reminds me of the smell of their little house in the woods. It reminds me of walking on their property and going to the creamery for ice cream. It reminds me of doing similar puzzles with my grandpa in the musty living room.
As someone who attended college for art, my classmates and teachers almost always hate things that the average person thinks is nice or wholesome. I don't get it, it seems pretentious to hate a man's art just cause it has a charm and coziness to it. I like just liking something without having to demand it be nihilistic.
I think a lot of artsy people try to find meaning and expression in art and that’s how they justify it being such a big deal to them. There’s not much more meaning to kinkade’s art other than “it’s cute and is meant to look nice on a living room wall” and because it’s so prolific it’s become representative of art that serves as a practical boring wall filler. So its existence is basically an insult to those who think very highly of art, and they clearly take it personally lol
@@Hanapetals They feel corporate to me. Like this painting sold to old people at ludicrous prices just because it looks "Pretty".
@@lucas1309 Still better than a splash of paint on a canvas, at least Kinkade didn't pretend his art had a greater meaning.
World War I set a hell of a trend...
@@lucas1309 I don't understand how its bad to like his art and wanting to have it up on a wall? If someone likes it and wants to buy it, its their taste and their money. Its purpose is to be decorative lol
Bob Ross didn't even sell his paintings. He wanted people to paint their own instead.
Yeah, he made all his money from his paints. He was literally selling the tools to create more art.
@@EzioAuditoreDaFirenze99 teach a man to fish...
@@720MotorWorks ...and he can paint with fish oils!
@@terrypussypower 🤣
of course it is about great art! and technically marvellous. so sad they both died so young.
His paintings represent a wish, a yearning, an aspiration to serenity and tranquility. There’s room for that, along with everything else.
Call it illustration. Art is something else.
@@jmsjms296 you forget that art is subjective, half a urinal nailed to a piece of wood was once considered "art" hell blank canvases covered in white paint are apparently art nowadays, so saying these are not art simply because they dont fit your ideals of what art should be, is like complaining about horror films being to creepy, or romance novels being to lovey dovey, its subjective, one mans junk is another mans treasure
@@jmsjms296 According to a quick Google search, art is, "the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power". So yes, it is art. It was created to be appreciated for its beauty, and does involve creativity, as he had to use at least an atom of creativity to create those paintings.
@@jmsjms296would something in a comic not constitute art for you since it's meant to illustrate a story? What about the cover of a book?
@@DiceRobo What is art? Quality? Intent? Content? Market value? Something else? Much has been written about this philosophical question. Instead of giving a (subjective) answer I'd rather call this an "illustration" even if some would pass it as "art"... After all no one needs to feel ashamed for creating an illustration that is enjoyed by many. (btw: I was jmsjms296 before YT started to mess with aliases).
Love to see the art community hasn't changed or grown at all in half a millennium
Pretty vague statement on your end, what exactly are you trying to say?
@@thehylianloach9473 For centuries, the art world has had a bad habit of blanketly labeling anything outside of it as "not real art." If it's popular, different, not understood by them, or has the "wrong" messaging, the art world tends to just write it off without second thought, which distracts from what art is (or it looks at art in a far too narrow, limited way): the world as the artist sees it or wants to see it. It's what made Van Gogh great but hated and Kinkade mediocre and hated; point is they both had it. Kinkade's paintings were how he saw the world or wanted to see it, and I think there's merit to that that the art world constantly misses when they write of populist art by default. That's what hasn't changed: the writing off of things they don't understand. Everyone does it; we all tend to write-off movies we don't get.
There's a bit more too it than that obv but that's the general gist
@@JonahTV kinda thought you might have meant that, thanks for expanding your point. I have another point to make: people cannot hate unless hate is inside them in the first place. The object of hate is not the cause of hate, yet, the target of it… this simple fact says more about the haters than the hated. Hate is hate, whether it’s directed at Thomas Kinkade or Martin Luther King. The problem is the hate, always, never the hated.
@@reloda It's called projection.
Looking at the paintings, thinking to myself: I did all those puzzles.
Same. My parents also glued them to a board and put them on the wall
@@daskampffredchen9242 i just bought one at Disneyland LMAO
I'm just sitting here like "I just think they're neat."
@@dermathze700 me too
Well, that was win...
“Take it easy, it’s just a drawing” - Patrick Star
"i call it bold and brash" "more like belongs in the trash"
Kinda random, but I really like your pfp! Who's the artist?
@@magnificloud Jamie Hewlett. It’s from a band called Gorillaz.
Yo Patrick didn't say that, it was Squidward
@@mesotolioma5089 no? He said it in Frankendoodle
The concept of kitsch is interesting. The idea being that all art needs to have some sort of hidden theme or underlying message that requires the scrutiny of an intelligent person to understand. I think there are 2 main problems with this. First these paintings are meant to be wall art, they are like elevator music. They are supposed to hang on the wall and look pleasent, basicly visual background noise. They are ment to convey a cozy wholesome vibe to the room, not be the centerpiece themselves. The second issue is that modern art is often the opposite of "kitsch" to the extreme. Alot of modern art is so covoluded and requires so many leaps of logic and context to understand the theme or message that the message and theme loose all meaning and impact in the process of trying to undertand it. Most of the time people just disregard it as pretentious bullshit that makes no sense.
Because that's what it is.
you can't be serious...
Art should not require all kinds mental gymnastics to appreciate.
Kinkade’s paintings evoke a sense of nostalgia and comfort by combining aspects of both realism and Impressionism, strongly rooted in the rich landscape painting traditions of the past. They represent a lost time that most of us never experienced, and probably never existed. There. I just assigned academic meaning to his paintings.
exactly, art is subjective, way i put it is "at the end of the day, cheese is just a loaf of milk"
absolutely ate, well done
I want to go visit the cottages in the paintings.
Say it again for the pretentious douche bags in the back! Haha.
Yeah the biggest reason academics have thus-far refused to is that they simply dislike Kincaid as a person, without regard to the stylistic or even technical merit of his work. High art has long been the domain of pretentious hipsters eager to lambaste anyone who isn't a part of their tiny club. This is often why painters who we now look back on as being masterful were rejected outright by the greater art community during their lifetimes.
They aren't even bad paintings. They just feel... generic? At this point we've seen so many reproductions so often they're no longer unique. Honestly what's most impressive is the fact this guy managed to make such detailed paintings feel so basic and bare bones(?) at the same time
@@dvstrr yeah that makes sense. Plus the lack of any movement or interesting strokes/techniques makes the paintings feel really lifeless. Like sure, you can somewhat feel the cozy mood he was going for but its diluted by the lack of anything to really cement and attach that feeling to, like as you said, a person
At first they were probably original and cool, but then all the copy cats came in, so you can’t really blame him. And they’re still pretty nice paintings
I guess the paintings aren't interesting they are pretty but there are tons of paintings I've seen before of landscapes similar to his I guess, but I don't hate them. That being said those people who do hate his art partially due to it being generic kinda reminds me of my hate for the MCU for the same reason of being generic.
Yeah, I agree. They all feel kinda same-y to me; like an "if you've seen one, you've seen them all" kind of thing. Although, my mom has tons of his paintings hanging around the house, so maybe that's why they all kinda look the same to me :/
Edit: I replace the reply to extend it and talk more about it. I see them as “background Disney 2D animated movies” which isn’t bad but it means for me that in the first seconds (even minutes) it looks very pretty, you feel happiness with a bit of sadness because you know you will stop liking it as much as you did five seconds ago, then that joy ends and you just have the vague memory of those feelings. They look very optimistic, I wouldn’t say too much because i don’t get what is something too optimistic (I get it means to “everything is rainbows and unicorns” but for me that is something else which is innocence in a child, but that’s a different thing). It’s like a candy, you like the taste it gives when it’s in your mouth, once it’s gone you can’t simply recreate that taste that easily, when you see another candy you want to buy it but too much candy isn’t very healthy. The taste is complex yet very simple to notice, there are a lot of them but you don’t want to not eat them, at least one per day. And of course there always are old and tasteless candy that you don’t want to see them again. I should call it “candy art” or something like that but I like the first nickname a gave. However I’m not going to say anything about the artist because I really don’t care about him.
Imagine just minding your business and then you see a drunken artist with a goatee urinating on a Winne The Pooh statue and yelling, "THIS ONE'S FOR YOU WALT!"
I would film it
Love the man or hate him, that was absolutely based.
"Winnie the Pooh implies the existence of Losie the Pee"
You join him and then take him inside and buy him another round.
That´s real art, would buy it.
nothing wrong with his art, lighting is good and the subject matter is magical looking, very eye catching.
@@detroitfunk313 often that overuse is pretty deliberate. Some artists want it bright and colorful, others want earthly tones, and they may intentionally limit the number of colors to pretty few. Its still okay to not like it. I dont have any really strong opinions on color palettes, but its not a "flaw" it is a style
@@detroitfunk313 The moment you start talking about "rules" of art, it isn't art anymore.
@@ForTheOmnissiah Interesting thought
I think people are more jealous of him since most artists unfortunately go unnoticed. He was a businessman that found a way to properly market his art and found a place for it in everyday homes. That's why he was special.
@@ForTheOmnissiah I think there’s merit in assessing the piece on the basis of aesthetics. Personally I’d argue that there’s nothing wrong with his art in and of itself, it just isn’t served well by presentation as a framed piece on the wall. You wouldn’t use a background from a ghibli film as wall art, but it’s breathtaking in context. His pieces are simply in the wrong context and are better served as illustrations or backgrounds
My mom loved Kinkade's paintings. The way the light coming out from the homes stood out to me the most. It's like the artist was trying to tell the world that a simple home should be warm, bright and inviting. It speaks to the simple desires I have for my life, to sit by a fire and tell stories to children.
If Thomas was an artist on deviantART, his work would be beloved.
Imagine. A conservative christian alcoholic with the name KINKade on a site like deviantart. But yeah you're completely correct
I like the way you kept true to the stylization of that websites name
Thing is, his work _was_ beloved. One thing DA and your grandma's house have in common is that neither are affiliated with the avant-garde art scene. I'm all for popular art, but you need to keep enough separation between your head and your ass to know that your extreme skill at drawing cozy cottages or anime OCs isn't going to count for much in the MoMA.
@@whataboutthis8423 speech to text
@@andrew_cunningham I don't value the opinions of the avant-garde art World myself, and I don't think Thomas Kinkade should have either.
They hate him because he’s not a starving artist.
Exactly. He pointed out how a lot of artists keep sniffing their own farts and they despised him for it.
I will never understand that snob logic of "to be a good *artist* you need to be dying in a dark alley"
No overcomplicated narrative to back an ugly mix of paint and you can still pay your bills without relying on the small circle of elite art speculators? Most hated artist ever.
That can happen, but in this case, I think not. There are plenty of non-starving and accessible artists who are not hated like this. I think it has more to do with claiming to be really unique, just because you know how to market and are very successful. As someone who would like to see even greeting cards have a little more creativity than this, I get it, even if I see that it has a place and would like less mudslinging to go on. It's worth remembering that Maud Lewis is also accused of making kitch, but there's considerably more tolerance and respect for her and folks are often willing to talk about any special artistic qualities they CAN see on her work. Artists who work hard to make the visual world interesting resent those who don't, but try to sell themselves as though they do, lashing out at the art community, critics and the public for not buying the act. It's true that they aren't the only artists hiding behind pretense, but the cynicism about that art like that pushed in that way has some good roots in the wish of artists to see art and the world progress ,change and stay, to some degree, current and fresh.
Wasn’t....But yes I agree
Being a background painter for animation explains why he’s so prolific! He had to get really good at painting fast
upon watching this again, the juxtaposition between Kinkades personal life and his idealist paintings is an artistic expression and meaning in itself. His inner turmoil manifested into something simple and comforting, almost as though it brough himself some comfort. You can hate the guy who painted these things, but the artwork is competent and pretty.
This made me respect Bob Ross's humility even more. He said openly he'd never be in a museum. His paintings are now in the Smithsonian.
I feel like Bob Ross wouldn't hate Thomas Kinkade though.
Bob's Ross got so big that I did a one eighty flip and landed smack *Dab* in a bag of Fucking Chips
@@carlrygwelski586 like you took a fat dab of some wax??
@@TadRaunch Maybe only because Bob Ross seemed like he wouldn't hate anyone. I haven't watched this video yet, but Kinkade was a notoriously shameless self-promoter, among other things that make him drastically different from Bob Ross. That said, I like Kinkade paintings, even if he is the Phil Collins of art. Actually, I like them _because_ he's the Phil Collins of art.
@@VanguardSupreme That's why I said it. I wholly agree that Kinkade is drastically different to Bob Ross, but that doesn't make them enemies. Bob Ross really didn't hate anyone or anything; the guy was just pure love. To think of a guy making money from painting? OK, I'm not Bob Ross, and I shouldn't presume to know what he would think. But he loved painting & encouraged it. I really think he would be happy that someone could make a living from painting, even if they were a cutthroat. I could even see Bob Ross praising Kinkade's paintings-I'm not saying whether he would, just that I could see it. And by the way, Phil Collins is cool.
I honestly just find this whole thing to be very sad. It's as you said towards the end, it seems like he has always been a very troubled person, and with how he struggled with addiction etc, I'm betting he didn't have much self confidence. These paintings were most likely his escape, a world without anything bad, that comforted him and other people, a world where he didn't need addiction. A safe space for him, maybe even a mask because when initially looked at, you would think that a very kind person painted them. I don't think marketing this feeling was a bad thing, in fact it was probably his only source of self confidence, and he capitalized on the feeling of being wanted, of his art being wanted, and thus got dragged into that toxic spiral of attaching his worth to only one thing, and took to lashing out when that was threatened. I'm not trying to say he was a good person or anything, just that it's kinda heartbreaking to see his paintings vs his own life, and how much he held himself back from happiness.
It almost seems like the paintings literally sucked the happiness out of him and replaced it with envy, greed, and sorrow while it made others comfortable and happy.
it’s funny that all these art critics called his art kitch when you just made a full paragraph talking about it.
Agreed
@@caroline6218 kitch is the worst term ive ever heard as an artist, art is communication, every single piece of art has meaning because meaning can be prescribed by the viewer and the artist, and its just so fucking weird to me, these are the same people who would be upset when people go why is a line a piece of art, so why is it okay to say it for simple art, pick a lane, art is art, all art is art, we can argue about techinical objective mastery and stuff , wich is valid but the concept of art is fucked up to try to gatekeep, specially since despite how vain and arrogant the quote might have sounded there IS relevance to 10 million people being moved.
@@caroline6218 The paragraph isn't about the art. It's about the person.
Art doesn’t always have to be challenging. I see Kinkade’s work as like a mental palate cleanser, something serene and peaceful that can help bring you back down to earth if you look at it for long enough. The man had real talent for sure, and it’s hard to ignore thoughts that people hated him because of copium - that he had such a skill but he chose to paint simple beauty instead of something more complex and heavy.
What about AI or Modern arts?
Kinkade was more of what might be called a 'commercial illustrator' - it suits a particular purpose, it has some artistic merit, and enough people like it to keep the artist fed.
Funny that people despise this guy and say he is not a artist, but then exactly describe what he did as what AI will replace first.
Well, most of the modern so-called paintings are literally what "commercial illustration" is all about. The ideas behind most of it is hollow and uninteresting, almost like and idea junk for you brain to understand. It makes you feel smart. Smarter than you actually are. But in the end, it's just a commercial thing, that has nothing behind it, except art snobs and artist who wants to earn some money.
People who were brought joy from a mans death that they didn’t even know and understand is borderline pathetic.
Yeah, both parties in this were being immature and horrible
True
I feel the same way.
Yeah, it's one thing to not his art and what its popularity might reflect about modern culture but hating the man is just on another level
Yeah they're horrible people, even worse than him
“Thomas Kinkade is the most hated artist” Hitler: don't mind me just watching
Underrated lmao
@Wilhelm Strasse if you didn't notice, abstract art costs like a few hundred dollars if not thousands, hell, a banana duct taped to a wall costed like 200k. But Hitler didn't even get into art school? He could've had a completely different reason as to why he was well known.
imagine reposting someone else's comment -_-
Hey! Ive seen this one before!
@@valvplaysstufflol
I mainly became familiar with Kincaid's work because of jigsaw puzzles. Sort of understand the criticism. But they really do work well for puzzles, which are a kind of escape but also put you in the position of having to study the little details in nature on each puzzle piece.
My parents were photographers, and after the industry shifted to digital they used "Kinkading" as a verb to talk about photoshopping lights into windows
Imagine selling so many paintings that your art becomes generic and common. When actually you are the only one making them
I'll take it. Lol
@@missl849 I'll take 5
It's not *just* that he sold so many that they became generic, it's that the artistic concepts he plays with weren't necessarily his to begin with.
@@jadesded So... are you a satanist for drawing(or painting) fruit and bowls?
@Crimdoesstuff Outside of the classroom, with no actual artistic input & only the passé right-brained exercise, _Yes._ It's not wrong to study in that manner, and is encouraged to hone technique of in this case, 2D medium, but it's an exercise none the less that can be used to be applied later in actual art.. Like how musicians practice scales/chords/rhythms.
I was watching this in my grandparents guest room and when you said “it’s probably somewhere in your grandmothers house” I looked around and there was literally a Thomas Kinkade puzzle in the room lol
Lmao same
He have a gods art, why they hate his art?
Lol I recognised a painting in the video from a puzzle in my granny's house
🤣🤣🤣🤣
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A friend of mine told me her son bought an original Kinkade. He was told this at the gallery. According to my research, Kinkade kept all the originals. He had prints made and had artists paint over them. He was a total con man.
I love the peaceful, homey, nostalgic feeling his art invokes. Better than staring at a red dot on a canvas and pretending there’s so much depth and feeling in it! To each his own
"Thomas Kinkade is the most hated artist" Hitler: Haha Poland goes boom
Lmao you beat me to it
Artists either drop out or graduate, im not sure much who get denied
Could you even call Hitler an artist, weren't his paintings utter trash?
except Hitler is so abhorrent he loops around the hateability horseshoe and gets fans, ironic or not.
@@utzius8003 Did you actually see his paintings ?
Honestly, hating this guy's art is like hating a slice of life show for "lacking emotional complexity". Like yeah, no sh*t, it's not supposed to be emotionally complex, and not everything needs to be emotionally complex. Fun things are allowed to be fun.
Or hating bob Ross for not drawing people
Not to these arrogant high handed snobs
I don’t think people actually hate on his art all that much, it’s more common that art snobs and critics tease fans of Thomas Kinkade for treating his paintings as though they’re fine art. I agree that Kinkade’s work is enjoyable in a kitschy way
here's a fun little word for that: puristism. art has to be both extremely complex in meaning and technique, otherwise it's not art. it has to have reinassance-like features in light and composition while having deep grim meanings. if its simple it's not art (cough cough modern art snobs)if it's happy it's not art(aka what you said). I'm not defending puristism just defying it
There mad because he said he wanted to have his paintings in a museum.
These paintings are cute and harmless. Kitch is cute and harmless. Seriously, some people must be living lives of extreme ease to work themselves into such a snit over literal nothings 🤷🏻♀️
It's funny. They will call a painting of a cottage "kitsch", while trying to claim there is some deep philosophical meaning behind someone gluing a toilet paper tube to a wall. I think id rather stare at a kincade, than some pretentious low effort "art exhibit" at a modern art gallery.
Like it's hard to know what's art before realised it's kitsch or money laundering
15:24 Lmao that is the funniest thing ever. Imagine getting a sick card in the hospital and it’s one of Picassos paintings on the front cover LMAO
This is giving me the vibes of “you won’t understand Rick and Morty because you aren’t smart enough. Only people with high IQs can find Rick and Morty funny” lol.
Exactly. Bruh, I understand the jokes, I just think they're dumb
Redditors man...
Yeah I gotta agree, I enjoyed the first two seasons and fell off after that, it's not because I'm not intelligent but because it's just not as funny as I found it before.
Ah well you see, the beauty of rick and morty is the levels of humour in them, you can enjoy the absurdity of a man turning himself into a pickle, you can laugh at a man turning himself into a pickle to evade therapy, you can laugh at the entire episode as a parody of john wick and you can laugh at the at the fact that after all of that, he still ends up in the therapy and seems to learn something. However, it still contains a truth about human nature to hide in what we do best and disregard out flaws. In that way, its a work of art, cleverly hidden away in an absurd and low level humour series
@@paradoxicalcitizen1139 I would not say dumb, but they're ignorant
They are cookie cutter but shouldn’t be hated like that.
@Iridescent Silhouette I think the comments are from pompous art lovers and art critics. I don’t think anyone else would care so much about paintings or even the politics behind it to write something that toxic. And usually when it’s something political there are people who come to their defence which I didn’t see here. Their hate is out of a sense of superiority not politics imo.
lmfao white people
I hearing from a artist that Kinkade asking hundreds of people what artwork they like to hang in their house. So he designed his artwork that people would like to buy.
The reason they're cookie cutter is because he got so famous
@Iridescent Silhouette sounds like you got some personal problems ngl
Part of it, I think, is the Ivory Tower mentality. You see it in a lot of intellectual spaces, not just art. It's the idea that you are better educated and not directly involved, therefore you are able to see the big picture and "know better." Kinkaid found the lowest common denominator on the optimism side, added a truly weird light trick (the paintings look subtly different in different light; in high light, it looks like a sunrise, in low light, it looks like a sunset), and it worked.
In defense of Kinkade I have to personally say, that the art movement's measure is to "how abstract can we take something, as to make people puzzle to where we mean". All art is communication, thus though some wish to convey the meaning in terms of simplicity, or complexity is the design of the author. Art like all forms it can come in, spoken, music, literature, cinema, television, and even interactive forms. They all communicate meaning, though some find themselves more "educated" by how obscure they can make their meaning or message. However, often is forgotten the value of clarity, and on that Kinkade is king. Kinkade is a master of soliciting an emotion of happiness, in the same way a genuine compliment would. Everyone looking at his paintings, unless they've some form of lens which they look through, will come to the conclusion that Kinkade is a good painter, and that his paintings convey the exact meaning which he was trying to convey. There's no shortage of skill when he conveys the happiness, the warmth, the joy, or the other emotions which he often does. I don't care for the man's personal life, but even so, it adds a layer unto the depth of his paintings. Instead of being repulsed by this, those critics should ask: "How could a fraudulently man, without any joy in his own life, capture a concept which he never had himself?" I need say no more on Kinkade's talent, but I'll say a few things. Yes, he uses simple and "unoriginal" techniques, but in all the reviews, you used words, with fonts, and other measures of unoriginality. Such things aren't always as important, and technicalities add, but the lack thereof should never subtract. it's foolish to subtract to the value of something which is good, just because it doesn't have any fancy letters like this: ♫ or that a book didn't have enough emojis. Or it doesn't make up enough words. Not everyone needs to be original, to effectively use art for the purpose of communication. The simple, and almost straightforward causality to everyone who sees the art, makes him a good artist in the sense that no one can't not feel the way he intends you to feel, unless you volitionally force yourself to go against the natural tide of what his communication pushes you to.
I often think many modern artists have only one message they want to communicate: that they consider themselves smarter than their audience. It's not a very worthwhile message.
haters be like: I'm not kink shaming *I'm kinkade shaming*
bruh
or kitsch shaming
Lol
*kink shaming is my kink*
To be fair, Kinkade had no shame, but certainly fuckin should have...
Person: "I like this thing. It looks nice and makes me feel happy." Critic: "You can't like this thing. It's not nice and your feelings aren't real. Only stupid people like the thing, are you a stupid people? I'm not a stupid I went to a school that told me which things are good things and which are for stupid people." This shit goes for movies and music too.
This. Thank you. A reason why I find critics to be some of the most pretentious people on the face of the earth. I'll listen to your "opinion" Mr. Critic, and then I'll form my own. And Mr. Critic, I happen to LOVE the 2004 Robert Zemeckis movie, The Polar Express!
I should go to art school. Having the ability to tell telepathically which of another person's emotions are "fake" or "real" sounds like an amazing superpower.
This type of shit is why i never want video games to be considered art. There is the odd Journey or Shadow of The Colossus, but the moment fun stops being a metric used to classify games,or even entertainment in general is the moment i stop caring about anyone's opinions
yeah critics aren’t all like that dude but good try to demonize people for having opinions about stuff. Negative opinions about things are just as important as positive opinions.
@@loruhlai i think the whole point is when some critics have those negative opinions, they take the opportunity to attack those who do not fall in line with those opinions. Hence the critics talking about Kincade works and specifically attacking midwest Americans because they’re seen as less intelligent in their eyes. It comes off as “I’m not like other kids, I’m so much cooler than that sheep over there.” Putting others down for the sake of making yourself feel superior just makes you a bully. Obviously not all critics are like this, but the need to attack others to make your critique more relavent seems very prevalent in the critic world, art included.
for me his paintings always given me the sense of being in the story of hansel and grettle and im seeing the gingerbread and the icing and the jubjubes and it should look nice and appealing and it does,, but everything just feels off and i cant place why edit: oh but he absolutely gains a few points back for the winnie the pooh thing. thats literally the funniest thing ever
Over the years I've ended up casually collecting Kinkade's puzzles. They're not only some of the best made puzzles (you can pretty much pick them up without them falling apart) but I prefer the artwork as well in terms of my process for putting together puzzles. I had no idea people hated his art so much, I've always looked at his art and wished I had that kind of skill since I find it difficult to translate what's in my mind into art. I'm studying arts & humanities and A&H is supposed to be about observing and describing, without judging whether we think something is right or wrong. It just IS. People seem to want art to be something very specific nowadays, forgetting art is simply a person taking some supplies and translating what is in their imagination (or being seen physically and being filtered through their brain) into something others can observe. Kind of like how people use language to describe things only they are experiencing (thoughts, feelings, and sensations). Art is merely a testament to the artist's psyche and personality, and nothing else. Kinkade's art is repetitive, in fact I own three puzzles of his that are different paintings of lighthouses on cliffs with the sun setting (or rising). In my own opinion, it seems the repeating motifs in his art (if the comment below mentioning his difficult childhood is correct) coupled with his addiction and devout Christian beliefs could indicate his art is a product of unresolved trauma, which causes people to play out the same patterns over and over as the brain attempts to process the old memories. His overly optimistic and simplistic settings could indicate unconscious attempts at escaping negative emotions of the past or patterns of interpersonal dysfunction that he couldn't resolve, so he escaped through art and substance abuse. Personally, the juxtaposition between his problematic personal life and kitsch artwork makes it more interesting as a topic of study; more interesting, I feel, because he seemed unaware of himself and so it is more authentic to Kinkade than an artist who is intentionally trying to portray themselves in a certain light through their art (like trying to seem deep or intellectual, etc.) because they have enough self-awareness to modify their behaviour--which means it no longer has genuine authenticity. Kinkade's art is also a part of history, like it or not--it just is what it is. It's too bad people dismiss him on a superficial level instead of pursuing his life and legacy from an academic perspective. His art is representative of his own personal history, but also the time, place, and culture in which his art gained widespread popularity.
Me sitting at home with 5 jigsaw puzzles by Thomas Kinkade without having known any on this: 👁👄👁
Same
I have a painting from him I think and I just noticed that ;-;
Me too
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YEAH
these "professional art critics" souns like a bunch of 13 years old internet trolls on twitter
literally out of DeviantArt or FurAffinity : «MY OC IS STONGER THAN YOU IN POWER! IM GONNA HEX YOU SO IM A BETTER ARTIST»
Exactly what they are
Most cases they are.
Im afraid art critics are critical as the name suggests and really do like to exaggerate
Instead of actualy searching for real reasons to critique, they repeat words from karens like Kenku's
I'm a fan of Beksinski and Dali, I quite like surreal art especially the creepy, unnerving kind that evokes nightmare-like imagery. I also love Kincaid's works, which might seem a bit contradictory but his technique is good and his "high-dynamic realism" (the best way I could describe it) style is very immersive while still conveying a dream-like quality (maybe I just love all things dreamy, lol). Some consider them to have excessive complexity but I think it's just right. You can really imagine yourself in these scenes, walking along babbling brooks surrounded by lush vegetation as you get closer and closer to home, the warm light inviting you in to find peace. I take no issue with art that exists to make you feel; frankly that's the kind I like the most. Whether I'm experiencing hellish visions of terror as the souls of the damned clamor through the pits of the underworld, deep unease as a mile-tall elephant with seven-jointed legs towers over the horizon, or the joyous beauty of a pastoral country valley beckoning me in a way that is both refreshing and intimately familiar, art to me is at its best when it's making me feel. The evocation of profound emotions from simply looking at paint on canvas is what I consider the pinnacle of artistic expression and accomplishment. Of course not everyone will get this experience from Kincaid's work, and that's perfectly fine. But people who go out of their way to disparage his work seem to universally have ulterior motives totally disjointed from the merits of the art itself.
Bob Ross' real art wasn't the paintings; it was his show. (Theoretically) anyone could create similar paintings just by following his directions, but his videos are timeless.
i feel like people hate his art because they hate kinkade himself, they aren't seperating the artist and the art
i could understand disliking it because its overly generic, but hating the art is kinda weird
Personally I don't hate the art itself and to be fair the execution of his pieces was always very good but I will say all of them do feel rather uninspired
Just as they should!
Kind of like they do with wagner
I kinda do hate the art. It makes me really uncomfortable, a sort of viceral feeling. I don’t think that there is anything wrong if someone likes it. Nor do I think it is necessarily bad, there are some paintings of landscapes of his that I find enjoyable. The feeling I get is similar to the one I get when I see propaganda, the overwhelming happiness of it triggers an inherent suspicion in my brain, I can’t engage meaningfully with it. Kinda reminds me of socialist realism, like the really happy and peppy stuff. Maybe it is because I already knew the political dimensions of the work, I have always looked at then with that context. And once I saw it that way, it became difficult to unsee it. I also think my hate of it comes from a personal place, I am Brazilian, and the paintings themselves harken back to a sort of an idyllic, bucolic americana that, honestly, became widespread all throughout the world. It reminds me of American cultural hegemony more than it reminds me a of mythologized, comfy past, the composition itself is peaceful but that very peacefulness to me is disturbing. There are also a lot of things about Brazilian middle class bovarism that I could spend the whole day talking about, but long story short, this sort of Americana is beloved by the rich, and it’s adoption by the Brazilian upper middle class sort of works like a distinction of cultural superiority from us, the (mostly black and poor) peasants who like samba, and you know, our culture. So that’s why I genuinely not only dislike, but have this passive sort of hatred for it.
All in all, the criticism seems a little dramatic.
Nothing like politics to get people going way too hard in a direction! I think mild criticism is understandable given the context of the man's life, but the rabid hatred is just scary.
Yea. But like solar sands said, this is the internet
Always a reason for someone somewhere to complain about something. It's the plight of human ignorance.
people have never really changed much tbh, there will always be that one person who just so happens to enjoy finding something to criticize even in this current day :/
@@Homerow1 Some people have a fundamental derangement and hatred for Christians/Conservatives that borders on a mental condition. These people seem to hate his work purely for that reason alone and tacked on whatever other complaints to fuel that single root of hatred.
Gotta be--yep, Kinkade, lol. Kinkade is bad for the same reason drinking an entire bottle of cheap maple syrup is bad.
lmfao I love this analogy
I unironically like Thomas Kincaid’s work. It is talented. It is comforting. Comfort is a legitimate emotion. For people like me who spend every day of my life thinking about the “challenging”, these paintings challenge me to relax a bit. Enjoying the breeze in your hair on a cool day and the beauty of a cool spring day is no trite thing. It is the one thing no monument has ever been built to, and is maybe the thing realistically most deserving of a monument being built to it. It’s human. Human is messy, but it is not only messy. These haters are snobs, and frankly, most of their challenging art is actually ugly and less worthy of a wall than Obama burning the constitution. Classical artists call modern art trash because it is ugly. Modern artist call this guy’s art trash because it is too beautiful. How upside down.
Offensively inoffensive is what I feel when I look at those paintings.
i agree it is... very annoying how perfect it is.
Maybe I’m in the minority here, but I don’t really feel anything 😂
@@DanielCastilloOfZeUSA Yeah, sounds about right.
@@DanielCastilloOfZeUSA that's the point. You see art and expect to feel... Something? But you're left with absolutely nothing. Even simple, unchallenging works often give off a feeling of aesthetic, some "vibe", but these paintings are impressively hollow. Tbh I don't even find them cozy, I just find them *nothing* .
GUYS I JUST FOUND OUT WHAT IT FEELS LIKE-IT FEELS LIKE COMMERCIAL PLASTICS.
I grew up in a broken home and was abused as a child. Pretty bad childhood with little love. I remember seeing these paintings in a local shop and felt an instant warmth I couldn’t understand. I was so in love with these paintings and bought a miniature print for my desk. It always brought me so much joy - imagining myself living there with a family who loved me and having a different reality. I’m forever thankful for having found these paintings and I’m glad to finally know the name of the artist. I don’t care what other artists say - his art has helped me and Im sure many others to escape their reality. And that’s something we all need sometimes. And that’s art in action.
Thats rough. But if you find the light in something during conflict, then thats something to believe in, regardless of who or what it is.
I actually have a similar story! I might not have agreed with the dude on much but, in my opinion, what makes art worth seeing is an extremely fluid and subjective thing. In that way, it doesn't make much sense to me to call any artwork "bad". The worth of a piece of art lies not within the art itself but within the mind of the viewer. And to me, the glowing cottage in a snow-covered countryside could be the starting point for a daydream with a better Christmas. One where you or I felt warm and safe.
😭 sending you my love from Houston ❤⚘🌹 Praying that you have happiness in your life now or in the near future
@@superdupersketchy4524 That’s crazy but you could’ve unliked my comment or kept your trashy, negative, attention seeking and venomous comments to yourself. No one needs to know. You just want gratification from internet points. So please keep it to yourself next time.
@@superdupersketchy4524 The fact that you have to make strangers talking about their lives and perspectives sound like a negative and toxic thing is a sign that you, in fact, are negative and toxic. And apparently so starved for attention that someone sharing their perspective on their abusive childhood makes you insecure somehow.
HIs drunken wills were obviously the nearest he got to making art
Would I hang his art on my wall? No. Do I enjoy looking at his art? Yes. I can't imagine saying something so rude about someone just making a painting.
Ironically, the controversy around his art has increased the art's artistic value, added meaning to the mostly meaningless
That’s ironic.
I mean, wasn't that the entire point of Kinkade's shenanigans? By provoking critics who already didn't like him and making frequent vocal appeals to evangelicals, he was creating the exact motivations he needed to sell his prints at high prices
As soon as someone says they don't like something, its value increases to those who wish to spite them. Let's say liberals openly hate the art, which encourages conservatives to buy more and display it to spite them; this drives the price up, even if the majority opinion is negative.
@Moku Joker definitely sold better because of all the media crying out how the movie will cause fall of Western Society into incel fascism or something On the other side lots of modern woke commercials are being produced so right wingers will become outraged and make the product popular by crying about how multimilion corporations want to spread communism Outrage culture is pretty profitable
Bad attention is about as useful as good attention
They're decent paintings. Nothing original or special, but if someone finds it soothing, what even is the issue? "Stupid paintings for stupid people" and "fake art." Imagine actually saying that. These art critics need to stop smelling their own farts so much. Makes artists as a whole look like assholes, far more than Kinkade might have done.
Yeah like calm down
Kinda like "Real hiphop"
Yep the people who usually critics average art as dogshit want a sense of superiority its really dumb nice pfp of lenessia hime lmao cant wait for season 4 lmao
@@fefega And “real music” in general
Makes me embarrassed to be an artist
Every artist comes with his or her own controversy and this guy is clearly no exception. I wasn’t surprised to find out he struggled with addiction as most creative minds/ artists usually do. I very much enjoyed his warm and comforting art pieces.
If art is supposed to illicit an emotional response, then I suppose he was very successful.. All those art snobs have a bug up their butts.
It seems like he was the Christian Rock of the art world
Nah, some christian rock bands are good (flyleaf, skillet, thousand foot krutch) He was straight up gospel music. Gaudy and obnoxiously uplifting.
“you’re not making christianity better, you’re just making the art world worse!”
@@Kmn483 Skillet is a christian rock band?? Damn!
@@MednaTheFox good quote, matches the video.
@@Kmn483 Bro... those bands have some okay songs but there's legitametly good gospel out there. Some of it is overkill but gospel is worth investigating, even praise and worship is alright sometimes. It's CCM that's unbearable. When Christians try to replicate top 40 pop.
Art community: hates everyone Animation community: hey babes what cursed thing have you made today
For real
True
So true.
toda la razon
Furry community: I paid 10k for a video of sonic shoving a bus in his urethra
Ngl I dig his art, it's simple and sweet, light and warm, it doesn't reflect our real world at all and I guess that's what upsets people
This is one of the best short documentaries I've ever seen. I learned so much about this person I never heard of and it was really well put together.
“What are these? Pictures of babies eating each other? The scatological scribblings of a madman?” Me: Probably not, Francisco Goya actually seems to be well respected.
**laughs in art**
underrated comment lmao
I don't like his personality, but his art isn't that bad.
yeah, he's definitely talented as an artist but not great as a person. I guessing his art wouldn't get as much hate if he didn't act the way he did.
Yeah tbh he’s very skilled in his art, it just lacks originality. However whatever floats his boat :)
@@carrot7911 I will argue that originality doesn't neccessarily make good art though.
Yeah. His Art ain’t bad, but hooo Boy! Using Faith in bad stuff? Yeesh!
Yup
My grandparents bought a copy of the “Garden of Prayer” Painting with details done by kincade himself. It is in the home office and is just a nice painting to look at when having a mental breakdown. Though the man highly conceded and very greedy,honestly it’s a pleasant painting
The fact that people can HATE this type of art shows the deep problem with the art in XX cent. All that "not deep enough", "not chalanging enough" - is just a modernist bullsht that somehow considered the ultimate truth. I don't care what person he is, I don't care about religion, but I like his art - it's warm and calming. And I totally agree with his statements about the modern "art". It's better to create something unoriginally beautiful, then originally ugly.
That's not art, that's design.
Art isn’t about deep meaning, it’s about form. the new contemporary art snobs came from the literature world. Where they overanalyse everything.
"worm and calming" made me laugh, thanks
I can’t agree more! The sad truth is the people making the vile comments are leftists who hate the man! They can’t see past there anger that someone believe different than them so they will do all in there power to destroy it! It’s a mental sickness. Oh and on the point of his character and decisions he has made, those who like in glass houses should not throw stones!
@@trustytrest Oops! LOL! I'm not the native speaker, so mistakes happen.
"These unremarkable paintings of cottages that would normally be on jigsaw puzzles" Oh boy you better take that back about jigsaw puzzles
Literally have one of those Jigsaw puzzles on my wall I didnt even know it was from this guy before this video I got one of a forest, a steampunk city and northern lights too though probably by different people
bruh what, it’s true 🤡
The vast majority of jigsaw puzzles my parents own are Thomas Kinkade paintings.
At first I thought it was all about people who hate jigsaws because that one guy always steals a couple pieces at the family gatherings.
Heh I own a jigsaw puzzle with one of his cottages, a calm snowy scene. Perfect for lonely covid puzzling
The fact that a banana duct taped to a wall gets more respect than this guys art is insane to me
that was exactly what i was gonna write lol
The fact that an egg on Instagram has more respect than this dude id crazy
This my friends is why art critics are overrated
I don't think anyone actually praises that, everyone's constantly insulting it, but soooo many people like it that literally everyone hates it
I personally love the banana on a wall but I get why you wouldn't like it
His paintings are the art equivalent of "Live, Laugh, Love"
And there's nothing wrong about that
His paintings took more skill to create than 85% of his detractors are capable of.
@@trustytrest so?
@@trustytrestit's all about "I could do this" or "you couldn't do this" but at the end of the day, art is about how stuff makes you feel. To me, this just represents the repression and denial of conservative Americans, and how afraid they are of facing ugly reality. At the end of the day, that is all it will ever be to me.
This is a great video, I'm impressed with your fair critique and analysis.
People hate him because he did something so few living artists actually achieve...make a living from their art while they're alive.
There it is
Hot take right there!
i hate being human knowing people are degrading someone because they were successful when they were alive
The more successful you are, the more people will usually hate you, along side with more people liking you as well.
thats stupid
one could say that his art is the equivalent of a store bought vanilla cupcake (with yeast-made vanillin), excessively sweet and artificial to some extent, very much made for the masses and made to be well received. There are no complex flavours, but there’s nothing wrong with liking a store bought, sugar filled vanilla cupcake
There is if that’s all you consume.
I like your analogy. And yeah, there’s nothing terrible about that cupcake, but don’t try and tell me it’s a master crafted artisanal dessert. And sometimes I’m in the mood for a shitty, cheap cupcake rather than something more complicated, but I understand that they are not the same
Very well said
Yes and the cupcakes are mass produced just like the paintings
@@maelstromBoon Diamond Dogs by Beck is a frequently mentioned example. Beck in general, I think.
My grandma LOVES Thomas kinkade, and it is everywhere in her home, and always have been, so most of his paintings are very nostalgic to me. So really don’t know how to feel right now 😭
I love these painting particularly the ones with lots of nature and a cottage or two. They make me feel calm and I would love to live in a cottage like one in the paintings.
I find this whole "kitsch" argument kind of dumb. I personally have a soft spot for a lot of the old grandma junk you can find in thrift stores. Especially if you touch it up yourself, updating the paint and so on. "Commercial art" is something unique to the capitalist society we like in, it's not any more or less valid than anything else. Besides, once that style of art stops being produced / goes out of style and it starts becoming scarce, in a few decades time they'll be in museums to commemorate the "style of the day." I don't know,.maybe I'm just too optimistic a person.
But Kitsch is not always seen in a negative light, lots of artist are passionate about it, either ironically, defiantlly or even genuinelly deffensive aboit it. In fact the whole pop art movement is partially based on the re-valorization of kitsch.
I feel the same way. In fact I find some of these paintings quite charming. Art is subjective anyway so the whole concept of judging something for being kitsch sounds kind of elitist to me
Honestly, I think the reason his work is hated is pretty simple: it's not that it's bad, it's that it's successful. Successful without merit. Like, there are people with original styles who pour their heart and soul into their work, try to portray real, honest truth, and no one ever notices. Meanwhile, who gets popular? This guy who profits off of cheap sentimentality. Oh my God, I just realized: Rupi Kaur is the Thomas Kinkade of the poetry world. If you're unfamiliar with who she is, she's a poet who got popular on Instagram, has published a couple of books which, while.... Some of her poems stand above the rest, but overall, they're not great. They are, however, accessible and popular with the general public. Personally, I guess I'm a little annoyed by her success, but not half as annoyed as I am by people complaining about her success.
The entire point of the painting is to look nice, if you he is art as a way to invoke an experience then his work isn't really doing that, its just hitting the pleasure buttons in your brain and expecting you to fill in the gaps, its like a jump scare in horror movies, like of course it makes me feel that way but like what did you expect. Its kinda cheap and I don't want to use the words easy or repeatable (cuz that's elitist) but it kinda is, I mean why did you think bob Ross taught people how to paint those types of paintings its because nature is pleasing to the eye.
And also just because a pantin might be kitsch doesnt mean you owning one is, because then the meaning would change with context, for example if you had one above your bed it would be a symbol for you when you are calm and resting, or to have one in your bathroom as a bit of pleasant irony to have a sweet joyess painting in a place that isnt alwyas so sweet or joyess.
Minor note on the title: The most hated artist I recognize is probably Adolf Hitler.
Hitler is hated but not for his paintings (besides the most of his victims never haad seen one if his canvas), he wasn't an artist, his watercolours are ok, not bad, for craft, but lacks of emotion, lacks of 'art'.
@@pablosantander5739 He was definitely an artist, and I’m not a Nazi but I actually like his art. Art doesn’t have to have emotion, it just has to look nice. Making it deep and emotional shouldn’t get in the way of aesthetics or be in every single artwork, that’s what the people who use the word kitsch a lot don’t realise
He was not an artist, he was a racist dictator and mass murderer.
@@frlolz he was an artist, but didn’t get accepted to art school (probably because it literally sucks)
@@frlolz he painted art, therefore he was an artist. In addition to being the worst person alive. I could draw stick figure dicks and it would be art. Or a green square like picasso
I like his art, makes me feel cozy :)
I don't hate his work, i don't exactly like it either. Its tacky, and superficial. I enjoy contemplating the art and spending time looking at it. His stuff would keep my attention for a moment at best.
At least in my opinion, his art is more eye catching than a taped banana on a wall
Agreed!
How could you compare it to something as *magnificent* as a banana taped to a wall?!
Or a pack of ramen spray painted gold
The fact that you remembered the banana means it worked. The point of (some, not all) art is to make you think, and thinking about what is and isn't art is included in that.
@@HollowRoll "i was only pretending to be stupid"
I'm German, so this is a perspective on the German word "kitsch", and I don't know if the english word has different spin to it. I'd describe kitsch as something tacky or cheesy in an attempt to be beautiful. This is subjective to the viewer, but some examples I can think of, that are just a little "too much": Two swans on a lake in front of a sunset, forming a heart with their necks. Garden gnomes Statuettes of putti, specifically if not in a church. A white wolf with blue eyes howling to a huge bluish-white full moon in a sparkling sky. In this video, the painting of Santa putting presents under the tree is what I would consider the most kitschy. Kitsch is widely subjective, if it weren't, kitschy things wouldn't sell as well as they do. Kitsch for me feels generic, with an overuse of stylistic devices and, as Solar Sands said, not intellectually challenging. Feel free to disagree though, it's hard to put my finger on it :D Merry Christmas and happy holidays to everyone
I'm American and I think you described it very well! That's the impression I've always had of kitsch.
I guess a kisched art is more valorized as a practice concept than as a seeling piece of art, everyone has already seen a drawing of batman standing as a ninja with a full moon behind him, but if you're able to create a decent drawing of that you can secure that you can challenge yourself with some more original concepts and hard techniques And thanks for the explanation and happy christimas!
You know what. Santa probably IS the most kitschy one because it's not borderline accidental satire. It's too much but not all the way. Like the bambi n friends n deer in background and rainbow mountains American eagle thunder waterfalls one
I agree but I love garden gnomes :(((
So kitsch is like... Generic normie cringe?
18:48 That picture is not a Thomas Kinkade painting. It's Pierre Auguste Renoir's Luncheon Of The Boating Party which was exhibited for the first time in 1882.
The difference between Bob Ross and Kincade is the motivation behind the art. Bob Ross did it all for the love of art. Kincade did it all for the love of money.
Artists shouldn't have to starve 🙄
"my art is irrelevant to this microcosm of modern art, I'm relevant to 10 million people, I'm relevant to real people" No no he's got a point
The part about him getting all 10 million people to picket any museum made him sound like a dick. That quote, however, was just the truth. The problem was that he used this bragging as a defense mechanism against critics, whose opinions he cared about on some level. Bragging in general just makes you look bad, but he also failed to seem above his haters. That was his downfall as a public figure.
Im just gonna drop this here and maybe you guys will reassess after understanding how much of a nazi move that was. kzhead.info/sun/qZl9odGMq3WGnIk/bejne.html
The difference is he's not particularly relevant as an artist, he's relevant as a product. He's as relevant as a brand of wallpaper is. I'm not defending modern art snobs, sure, they are pretentious, much like jazz snobs or whatever. But at least among the millions of uninteresting pretentious modern artists, a couple of them stand out as profound experiences which are capable of saying something, and there are almost always real attempts at originality, even if it sucks. I don't hate Kinkade's paintings, I think if anything they are pretty to look at, but I think "relevance" in this context doesn't mean much.
So from a filmmakers perspective myself, University loves showing "real" films and having students produce film that is "serious". Usually at 19 someones is going to absolutely bungle a think-piece movie on race relations which is a symptom of the film world's obsession with really serious post-modern pieces. Similar to the fine art world. If 2020 has shown me anything. Sometimes you need a break. Yeah I am fine watching a tragedy of the commons type of movie but I turn off the tv and see the same shit. I need a break, Kitsch art or movies, like a lifetime movie or hell even a Marvel movie can be that. comforting pieces to enjoy. I really had a nice chuckle at the Bush comment because I had a professor call the marvel movies fascist garbage or something. It's hilarious. The art world has like this weird fetish with being miserable myself included but it's nice to not be buried in that all the time because it takes a toll. I could never hate those paintings, they just aren't offensive most don't know who the guy is and don't notice anything about them. They remind me of going to cracker barrel with the family which is literally a place built on the idea of feel-good kitsch. I think it's really just awful to call people who like the paintings dumb. McNaughton like I could disagree with his art but there is something really just interesting about it. Just the concept of it. It feels not of this earth in a way like it stepped out of an alternate history show. Or Bioshock Infinite.
I personally enjoy combining both. While some may say it is idealization, I have always loved being able to bring beauty to the worst situations. Why write a poem about how much I want my aunt to leave this world, If I am not gonna use a colorful vocabulary and metaphors.
Some people see art as an escape from reality, and when you bring reality back into art (depending on how exactly you do it) it is met with its criticism. When I say "(depending on how exactly you do it)" I mean in the sense that realism of idealised worlds, such as Kinkaide's, are condemned, while abstract works representing the artist's mentality at the time is heralded as the next Picasso (basically, realism of something that doesn't exist = bad, non-realism of something that exists = good)
Yeah, I don't get why the critics, the people that are supposedly the ones who know what's good, what's "real art" have such a fucking hate boner for things that make you feel nice. I mean obviously not everyone has the same definition for art, mine just so happens to be something that can ewoke some sort of feeling or thought in me, and if that feeling happens to be hapiness then so fucking be it! Is hapiness considered less valuable than other feelings? Hapiness can teach us, just like misery, it can inspire is, it can do so much good shit, so excuse me but some fucking stuck-up "art critic" says we're not allowed to express hapiness in our artworks doesn't quite matter to me, as I often dismiss the opinions of people so high up in their own ass that you are shocked they can see the artworks they're critiquing from the shadows of their fat dirty asscheeks. Now of course, many pieces of art are completely artificial, or just way overdone and they provoke fake feelings, but this is not exclusive to pieces expressing positive feelings. And believe it or fucking not, simple artworks of some nice beautiful landscapes can come from a genuine fucking place. You know what, I don't need your fucking belief anyways so you can fuck off right back to some completely non-artificial contemporary gallery where you can find all the "real meaning" in an assymetric blue square to help the billionares behind the backs of some talentless hack artificially inflate their price by giving it some "deep" fake message you complete fucking troglodytes, you absolute fucking disgraces to the art world as a whole.
"I had a professor call the marvel movies fascist garbage or something" This is the perfect example of academic political zealotry. "If you are not with us, you are against us, and there is nothing between".
I get you, it's nice to just unwind now and then and be entertained by something fun that doesn't ask much of you. But these people weren't taking a break from fine art, they were buying nothing but cheap, unfulfilling crap. If you're chugging wine from a box all day it's no longer about slumming it now and then, it's a lifestyle choice. :P
I love the video, just wanted to say I love the Tobacco groove at the end of the video!
15:54 That sounds accurate. If he had any sense of empathy at all, he wouldn't have done his unethical business dealings. And why drink? With countless millions in your bank account, why drink? I think he probably realized he had swindled a lot of people and he did finally have a conscience. I think he probably was plagued and I bet he felt kind of trapped with all that fame and pressure. I don't hate him so much but he did harm a lot of people, no matter how many people found comfort in a painting of a cottage with a 3 alarm fire blazing inside it.
Completely disregarding the artist himself and just looking at the paintings, I honestly don’t see how horrible they are. Sure, they don’t have a meaning. Sure, they’re made almost entirely as superficial money makers. But they’re pretty and skillful. Those things would get lots of praise anywhere on the internet if a digital artist did them nowadays. I think they’re pretty, relaxing, and really skillful. Y’know?
yea i totally agree. the paintings are nice but generic
@John Emmanuel or in some elderly persons home the you vaguely remember so they all look familiar lol
I want a house that looks like one of his cottages. I look at the characterless brickpiles I drive past in town, all copying half a dozen patterns, all square and boxy... and I want to live in something like he painted. And I don't give a poop if people think poorly of me for it.
You can say this about any modern art masterpiece, and most modern art looks like absolute shit yet sells for millions. I like this art because it doeant look like trash just made for a rich man's tax write off.
It's better than the splattered blobs of mixed paint thay make it to the galleries today
Sometimes people just want to look at pretty pictures. It is that simple.
True, the reason this guy seceded as he did is because his work appealed to the masses
I agree with you. Those scenes he painted did exist, somewhere on earth, but they were unfortunately few & far between. Buying the Kincaid scene was the next best thing the "dreamer" could get. But me? Once I watched one particular interview with Kincaid, I could no longer stomach his pictures. But others feel differently, I know.
Yeah, and it seems there are legit reasons to hate this guy, why default to art elitism?
@@DirtyDoge You raise a valid point.
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Excellent narration, excellent video about a subject I knew nothing about.
I bought a painting by Thomas Kinkade’s teacher, Glenn Wessels. The painting was an abstract expressionist painting, the polar opposite of Kinkade. But Wessels early work was WPA social realism. And Wessels teacher was Hans Hoffman, also an abstractionist. It was a bit surprising to see this lineage of influences.
The paintings are really aesthetically pleasing. Kinda boring but still.
some of them look aesthetically good, but the lighting doesn't make sense in some of them
@@deepstariaenigmatica2601 Lighting doesn't have to make sense.
@@jUQMtDmf I would say it usually doesn't, but the fact that he paints with realism makes it very jarring
they’re like puzzle pictures
@Stix N' Stones . . . are you using effeminate as an insult? Or am I misunderstanding you?
Art is art There is no "fake art" If you spent time making it. It's art Just because the artist is a bad person doesn't mean their art isn't real art
The only way I could disagree with this is when the whole banana taped to the wall thing was in the news. That's not art. That's a guy trying to pay an artist so he have it donated to a museum to write it off on his taxes
@@brelonwy oh yeah I forgot about that That doesn't count as art
Brelonwy I think art can be seen as something you actually cared for and worked on. Taping a banana to a wall took no thought whatsoever, therefore isn’t considered art Edit: Ok lol the people who replied to me are right just ignore what I said
@@anxiousghost4939 Agreed, but it was a good snack for the guy who took it off the wall and ate it
@¿¿¿ • 12 years ago rich people usually have poor taste in art, so the people you described barely have to try
Amazing history. Thank you for the effort!