F1 Greatest Rivalries: Michael Schumacher v Mika Häkkinen
2015 ж. 8 Мам.
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Such a great rivalry with so many great races and championships. Probably the best rivalry ever along with Senna and Prost!
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Today F1 is not the same as before...I do not watch F1 more. R.I.P F1
+GR27george1 ofcourse its not. Do you think people drive f1 till their 60? and do you think technology doesn't advance? I'd find it weird if it stayed the same and if someone in their 60's was driving
+quachimba the problem is today's f1 regulations stiffles the exciting rivalries and creativity in car designs compared the previous years, and compared to innovativity we've seen in lemans and many touring cars championshis today f1 is lagging behind.......
+Bradley D 2017 is a big rule change again and they are reverting back to old school style, I think it will be better
Guy Mann you are right my friend no doubt.
+GR27george1 F1 died with the ridiculous anti-Schumacher rules around 2005. I stopped watching soon as Schumi retired in 2006. Lawn mower race today are a total joke. It is dead and nothing will bring it back in this new politically correct insane society we live in.
Michael Schumacher: “Mika Hakkinen was the best opponent (I’ve had) in terms of his quality, but the biggest admiration I had for him was we had 100% fight on track but a totally disciplined life off track. We respected each other highly and let each other live quietly.”
I wasn't lucky to live at the 80's and watch Senna, Prost, Mansell and Picquet ... but I was lucky to see watch Schumacher vs Hakkinen
NO! Lucky you, I didn't get to witness none of that. All I got witness live is the V6T, so be greatful you were born when you were born. I'm the unlucky one!
Too bad you weren't alive in the 60s and 70s with sir Jackie Stewart before he started commenting with Chris economacki on wide world of sports
My favorite rivality, 2 guys with respect for each other :)
Yeah it was too great drivers who pushed each other to their limits but ultimately when it came down to it, they respected each other and that added to an already very special rivalry
What I liked about Hakkinen is that he never complained when he got beaten by Schumacher. And of course Schumacher never complained when it was the other way around. That's why their rivalry was so good and enjoyable to watch. All other drivers cried a lot, especially Coulthard. To me that's the most annoying aspect of today's F1. Today, almost all the drivers whine about everything.
+MySubtleMind Coulthard crying and whining? Oh please, David was a gentleman and still is. And we all remember how Ferrari forced all Schumacher's teammates to let him pass in front a few of his championships were won that way. How many times Irvine or Barichello were forced to do that? Remember Austria 2001? Or when Baricello cried when Schumi has mugged him the victory in US? That is not a sport, that is some fucking comedia del'arte. Coulthard and Hakkinen were competing each other to be the numero 1 in the team, while at Ferrari Schumacher and his team-mates didn't.
In all fairness in 2000 Mclaren's unreliability cost Mika the championship...but still great rivals and great times
That was 2001 not 2000 but still a valid point.
SanFranFanAD actually it was in 2000 (the engine failure in Austria and Oil leak in Brazil caused DNF for Mika and Schumi won both of those first 2 races, so it already put Mika quite far and that engine failure in USA was the nail in the coffin)....2001 Mclaren wasnt even fast enough to compete with Ferrari.
+Balnazzardi Actually.. it was the previous year that Schumacher broke his leg that let Mika conquer another championship, if you remember the car was so good that Irvine almost conquer the championship against Mika! Next year with Schumi in his usual form and Ferrari with the upper hand on the previous year they started writing their era and legend. That being said, if McLaren Mercedes hadn't been forced to redesign and forbidden to innovate with their engine as they did the previous couple years in favour of the Reds that era may have taken quite a bit longer to establish for the Reds and may not even had been one either..
+Balnazzardi whilst that is true Schumacher actually had more retirements in 2000
+SanFranFanAD The string of DNF's allowed Mika to gain in the championship after falling back by 26 points. MSC had two start crashes (much like Alonso in 2012 which ultimately caused the Spaniard to concede WDC to Vettel) and mechanical failures at Monaco and France. Mika's first half of the season was far from impressive as he was often outperformed by DC, however Mika took the upper hand towards the end.
Jesus...just AMAZING how much better F1 was then.
Mika was a great driver, hell of a nice guy too!!!
This was one of the greatest rivalries in F1 history and it went largely unnoticed. But these two were very equally matched, very skilled and had great respect for each other. I think the respect is why it went unnoticed since other rivalries have been very bitter.
they enjoyed racing against each other and you could see it in their level of competition they were always trying to best the other and didn't have any issues with each other other rivalries tend to get very bitter and thus the drivers don't respect each other
+Yoda on DMT In many of the races Häkkinen and Schumacher were so much quicker than their team mates that it was almost embarrassing to watch. Both had the unique ability to push at 100% through an entire race. Or like MSC commented after one of the Suzuka races, "we (he and Häkkinen) crammed out 40+ qualifying laps. The other guys just cruised around."
Mechant Loup They were both amazing drivers. Sadly, Häkkinen seems to be a forgotten legend of F1.
+Yoda on DMT He isn´t forgotten. Here in Germany he is still really famous and popular
This, in my opinion, was the greatest motorsports rivalry of all time. It was during a special time for formula 1, involving special drivers and special manufacturers. Pure talent, pure chaos, pure racing. Nothing more, nothing less. Yes I am biased because this all happened when I was a child and I understand many will say "Prost vs. Senna" or "Lauda vs Hunt" etc. All of those were wonderful, but again, that's the point of MY opinion. And get well Michael!
I'm not a Michael Schumacher fan but that move especially on Mika at Monza and hear the Italian crowd roar and cheering. Amazing! Get well Michael !
7:30 listen to those engines roaring .. man i miss those times
Those were the days👌👌
+TheDerDumme Man I miss those 3.0L v10s. :(
+TheDerDumme sick
Schumacher-Hakkinen was more interesting than Schumacher-Hill. It does help of course that F1 still sounded like F1.
both great masters of f1. I salute them
Best rivalry ever. So much respect between them.
This is the F1 I grew up with...
Look at the amount of water on that track, who was complaining about racing on those conditions? NO ONE!
+Sergio Melendez oh they sure did
+Sergio Melendez they did complain. But i don't see the difference they complain even now and race in the rain too.... so i'm unsure what you mean
Mighty mighty battles between 2 of the best F1 warriors ever seen and through which I was privileged to have the chance to live in their times and see in action. 2000 season will be the one I will never forget, saw EVERY race and EVERY victory and the Japanese race when Schumi lifted the title for Ferrari was one of the happiest and joyful days of my life :) It was a shame that their battle didn't go full length in '99 when he had that crash at Silverstone and then didn't go on for years more after 2001 when Mika called it a day. But I savoured the moments we had them together on track and what fun and adventure it was. What we badly need to see now in F1 is Red Bull or Ferrari (or even McLaren come back to winning ways again) improve their packages and take the fight to Mercedes, we've seen the Merc inter-team battle between Hammy and Rosberg now for 3 years now. Apart from Nico having the upper hand this season, it's getting rather same-ish and 1-sided and another team challenging for the title is what we need to see to spice things up and cause a bit more of a stir.
F1 best years was 80's to 2000's
GoisBR agree before drs
This is how Formula 1 cars should sound!
listen to WW2 Tanks they sound even louder
#FormulaTank #makeithappenFIA
The master of Rain! the memories...Michael come back soon!!
The Rainmaster is Lewis Hamilton! He wins 16 of the last 17 Rainraces!
my greatest memory from F1 was watching Mika over the Michael & the backmarker in I maneuver.
Hakkinen vs Schumacher was the reason why I started watching Formula 1. Mika retired from Formula-1 way too early... WAAAAY TOO EARLY!
Good memories, so nostalgia.......Hakkinen was very well but Schumacher is the best of all the times in F1 History.
RainMaster #keepfighting
THIS is my childhood. Don't know if it was better or worse than today. I just know that those was the exciting days for me.
Better than today's F1, Now they get a 5 place grid penalty if they fix their fcking gearbox, ridiculous rules now.
me too
Those were the golden years in F1 history. Two great drivers amazing rivalry. pity we don't have anybody left. Infighting is destroying F1.
Great great memories, my late childhood and early youth was all about F1 and Michael. Unfortunately we never had a commentator like Murray Walker, undoubtedly the greatest F1 commentator of all time across a countries. He always was so pro Michael, such a nice contrast to every other commentator. Great times, back when F1 used to move people.
Buddy this Video Made my day, Thanks for making it.. Schumi and Mika were really amazing to watch
I'm really glad you enjoyed it! They were two of the best
@4:57 "The" overtake when Mika "Overtook the Michael"...
this is from back when I watched f1d. loved these two. thanks for posting
Back in the days when the cars sounded like the God of Thunder spitting nails. Mika and Micheal where in a class of their own.
wow, I still remember the time I saw these races live, and I enjoy it every time I see them.
what a time those years were. Probably the greatest age in motorsport history. With F1 and WRC legends at their greatest. We haven't seen anything like this since.
Correction, 1999 Häkkinen did not race against Schumacher for the championship. It was against Eddie Irvine. Schumacher was injured at the 1999 British grand prix and was away most of the season so the battle was between Irvine and Häkkinen
I'm aware of this but only had so much space to write. And the did start the season with some interesting battles.
Yep, true, they had good thing going on in the early parts of the season until the accident.
4:23 is how Max Verstrappen is defending these days too
Back when F1 was truly great and fun to watch.
currently watching this in 2016, i miss these moment so much.
I would say that short time Schumacher and Senna drove against eachother with Prost and Mansel all there... that was Formula 1 at its absolute peak imo. 1991-1994, never did I see so many teams up in the top because of excellent drivers taking the cars beyond their limits.
I so miss these times, great cars, great drivers and great races .... All seems so tame now and no reall competition going on in the front ... F1 needs some excitement again.
Just amazing
6:18 this is how you have to take that corner entry
Oh those days.... Back in time when racing was racing. Those days are long gone, and i think that kind of racing will never return. There have been same kind of battles between Kimi, Fernando and Michael, but nothing like Mika and Michael. So sad.
f1 looked so real then. don't feal the buzz anymore.
such good looking cars and they sound unreal
murray dat little schumi-fanboy :)
For myself being Brazilian think this was the biggest caught between two drivers in F1 history.
Listen to that sound!!
Those V10 sounds incredible in comparison to today's V6+ turbo....thanks to God that I have seen that era of F1.
the cars looked and sounded so much better back than
観てる間鳥肌立ちっぱなし この頃のF1は本当に面白かった
these are the best times of F1!! if hakkinen didn't retire, he could have surpassed MS's 7 titles!!
The sound of those cars was simply fantastic. The races often were boring though, agreed.
God, I miss that sound... Right now F1 engines have no passion in them at all.. Listening too much to the hippies and environmental psychopaths. Bring back the V10's and and refueling!
+Sergey Pupko Jr its called technology. Not sonic satisfaction to your ear drums. This sport is also a lot about technology. thats half the battle to say that it doesn't sound good to your ears means what? i don't understand?
+Sergey Pupko Jr I agree I miss that sound. I don't care what people say about technology. Would these same people be just as excited and passionate if the cars were completely silent? Screw that.
yes i would just as people are interested in space when no sound exists there. It means nothing i'm here for the racing... not for sounds
quachimba its sad though when you read 2016 regulations and they will add a special echaust piece that will amplify the sound because they got too much crap from fans for it... I guess its just me because Im old fashiomed and am unwilling to let go of the eargasms I used to get from proper F1 engine sound.
+quachimba Omg.. every comment you make is dumber than the last. Eat shit, smile and ask for more. College audiences are wonderfull.
these were hard times to be a huge David Coulthard fan, you are a champion in my eye's DC. :(
This was real racing no bullshit drs or kers just a monster v10 and a skilled driver the shit boxes of the v6 era man what happend to f1 i know when i was a kid i used to get up in the night to watch races when it was outside europe now these days nahhhhh just glad to see young max bring a bit action and excitement back in the race
Thanks for the post SanFran! I once once watched these two drivers vying with one another trying to set the fastest lap in qualifying for a GP (sorry, I forget which one it was or when !). I am not a huge GP fan, but i was rivetted. First Haki went out set the fastest lap, came back in and chilled. Schui then went out and incredibly beat Haks time by a 1000th of a second! Hak then went out again and unbelievably went faster again by another couple of thousandth's!! This carried on for several more laps, each driver eeking out their lead by the most ridiculously miniscule time intervals. I watched in total awe and realised that these two drivers were at the top of their game, at the time, and were pushing at the very limit of what was humanly possible. Astonishing!
I'm glad I could bring back such great memories. These are truly to of the greatest ever to race!
Toda la emoción que vivimos con la rivalidad de estos dos enormes pilotos no sería nada si hubiese existido el DRS en esas épocas. Antes, se pilotaba con paciencia y el acoso inducía al error, ahí se veía a los grandes y los diferenciaba de los demás por su talento. All the excitement that we live with the rivalry of these two great drivers would be nothing if the DRS had existed in those times. Before, they piloted with patience and harassment induced error, the greats differed from the others by his talent.
V10 is music to my ears
Michaels best race barca 1996 in the rain laped the field
I miss these years ... even the commentary was better back then
Arlind Sadikaj Murray Walker just makes everything better.
The best three things of that era were: Schumacher, Häkkinen and V10 engines. I'll miss you all equally!
To my knowledge Häkkinen participated in the F1-championships Schumacher won in 1994 and 1995. Obviously not as a rival, but still "against each other"
As a Schumacher fan: 4:55 was one of the best moves in F1 history! And remember...that was without those stupid DRS!
+Juggernaut30 whats stupid about DRS? it adds to the challenge..... it is just adjusting their rear wing in a ways to get less drag for that straight period.... they aren't allowede to just use it anytime and it was discovered by mistake... it actually adds to the excitement. Nothing wrong with technology. since thats what f1 is about
+quachimba its means they just wait for tthe straight before they overtake... boring
so what? they all have drs... so it's like accelerating the earliest coming out of a turn. it's not like they allow DRS only for one car on the track then yes i would agree but not in this case. they are adding another variable to the mix that could never make the formula simpler
that's F1 sound!
These guys were made for each other, like Ali and Frazier
Would love to see another Senna Vs Prost rivalry in F1.
7:08 Man, that engine sounds.
Formula 1 at its level best...
So true!
Oh, I don`t think that McLaren had in 1999 the upper hand. If you rewatch the season, you will see, that they had technique issues and other stuff. Michael would become champion, but he had a issue in Silverstone too. The fact that even Eddie fought for the championship is a proof for that argument.
Austria 98, Argentina 98, luxembourg 98 also ding dong battles
the best exhaust sounds of engines were the old ones, today has no sense
+Ezequiel Comercio today has technology that moves forward. Never stays still if it did stay still F1 would be boring and pointless.
maybe it is to some people for me its racing. and that doesn't get boring nor pointless. I mean if its pointless it generates a lot of money and new technology. So maybe it is boring to some but i would find it hard to say it is pointless
+quachimba pushing a drs button and tires which don't let the drivers show who is the best on the most limit for the longest time (because the tires would be cooked after half a lap) .. has become more a show then racing for me... and I want see racing not show...
i guess you just don't understand... If it was one driver getting it... I can understand your point and i would agree with you it takes away from the sportsmanship of the race. The whole point here is everyone gets it. In that sense it is just another added thing they have to consider and think about. Everything is equal so pushing a drs button or not isn't the point.. They push buttons for brake bias too .. that's not the point. the playing field hasn't become uneven. So it's not how you described it.. They have certain zones they can only use them in and in those zones they are usually straights... So just like a driver can get on the gas a bit earlier in the last turn before a straight and gain the advantage it's the same here.. they wait to get out of the last turn and into the drs zone and hit it at the right time. Pls it's not a boost of any sort like the Audi TT cup has. IT's an adjustment just like brake bias or the anti roll bars or camber etc. You are just changing one flap at the rear there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. and takes away from none of the racing. I find your opinion of it being a show shows that you don't understand F1 and racing at all if you seriously think drs is a show.
+quachimba adjusting brake bias or antiroll bars and such things.. are allowed always at all places.. the thing with drs is .. it is only allowed at a specific place and the bigger impact is... it is only allowed for the guy who is following a car withing a second... if the guy in front would be also allowed to use it.. I wouldn't have any problem with it... but since it is only allowed for the guy behind... it doesn't matter for example if the guy in front can get out of the turn a bit better because the guy behind just drives by with his flaps opened... in the past planing an overtake took laps.. you had to analize and try .. you needed to put the guy in front into a compromising situation.. and took advantage.. you need an instinct for the gap that is opening into a turn... yes that might be booring for casual viewers who just want to see anything happen.. but it was amazing in terms of racecraft.. also an overtake was a spectacular thing.. like it should be... the guy behind was working hard for it.. and the guy in front was working hard to not let it happen... now the guy behind just need to be close.. push the button and drives by.. another big problem are the tires... if the tires could hold driving on the limit.. then the guy in front might still have a chance.. if he just can handle driving on the limit better for a longer time... but now that would kill the tires and he wouldn't have any chance in a race then... I would be fine with drs allowed for overtaking lapped cars.. but not allowed in a battle for position you said the playing field hasn't become uneven.. that is the problem... it has to be uneven for racing.. that is what determines racing... the thing that there are people that can race better at the limit then others.. also that there are cars that are able to be driven faster then others is a big point of f1.. for example in the past you had 2 fast guys in 2 fast cars.. it was clear that the championship should be between those 2 drivers and cars... now you can't even say who is fast.. you can only say who can save tires better and which car is able to save tires better... you don't need a good overtaking driver for that because.. it doesn't matter anylonger because if the guy is not a good overtaker he still can overtake because of drs... tires you can drive on the limit and no overtaking aids like drs.. and f1 would be great again... yes it would be booring for casual viewers.. but it would be great for seeing real racecraft again.. I also wouldn't mind something like a push to pass button or boost or so...(like the kers in the past) ... if the drivers can use it how they want.. so also the guy in front can use it to make the gap bigger.. or what ever... or lets say.. something like you have 8 boosts available in a race.. how you use them is up to you... totally fine for me... but something like only people who are a second behind a car are allowed to use it is just trying to artificial bring the field closer together.. which is just wrong for racing... it is ok for gaming like mariokart or so.. where the drivers at the back get better items... so you have a fun time together.. but for real racing it's just wrong.. for example in 2004 or so.. yes you often saw them driving behind each other for lap after lap after lap after lap... but that ment both were driving on the edge without making mistakes.. and that is a skill... and if someone then even managed to overtake the other guy.. wooow what a spectacular thing.. it was amazing... it ment either he got the guy infront to make a mistake.. or he planned it for laps and waited to the moment were it was the right time and situation to make it happen... that is racing
I miss the old times in F1, when I was just a little guy watching those incredible battles on the track. This was the real F1, oh how I miss that...The last amazing F1 season was 2008 in my opinion...After that, I keep watching in a hope that maybe one day it will become the same as it used to be 10 years ago, but it is getting worse every year. To begin, the V6 turbo engine does not make a real F1 sound (it is not even close to the 80's V6 turbo) , and it is an indispensable detail in a show like F1.
+Eduardo Peres how man? i thought F1 was about the driver and the engineer and technology... i really fail to see how sound of an engine affects this?
What were the years where McLaren had that really distinctive sounding Mercedes engine?
Hakkinen was the only one that Schumacher have respected. Not even Senna had that... He was great both inside or outside the car.
+fitty77 thats because senna was better than both of them
Rewatching this rivalry after watching Schumacher at Netflix.
Desde Adelaida `95 que Schumi a Mika son muy buenos amigos; rivales deportivos, pero personas amigas!!! :)
why at 08:40 mikka didnt stay inside the corner for defending? btw 2 legends remember those days when I was only 7 yrs old :s
Good old days
Dat Mercedes engine sound .
A great rivalry and nice to see their respect off the track. I always hoped that Alonso vs Kimi would turn into something similar. Maybe there's hope for Hamilton vs Vettel.
that ferrari looks gorgeous in rain.....
Holy Shit...just listen to that!!
The only thing you can say about Michael's career is, that he had no really big rival. Sure, Mika was great. But think about Senna and Schumacher in the same team. Whow!
+DaveMcIroy Yes but Senna would not have let this happen unless Michael had a better car. To me, it wouldn't have made that much difference in their respective careers as by the time that this scenario was a possibility, Senna's career had peaked and Michael's was headed for the stratosphere....
oh you God you!!! schumi Monza epic
notting like a bit of rain
The 2nd clip in this video is actually against Irvine. That's the start of the 99 Japanese GP.
I knew Hakkinen was know for good starts but I struggled to find footage against a Ferrari but when I did I must of just assumed it was Schumacher. I should of checked my bad.
Lauda vs Hunt must have been pretty epic..
Would you like me to do Lauda Hunt and Senna Prost?
SanFranFanAD Sure! And while youre at it do Ali vs Smokin Joe Frazier! :)
I´d prefer Lauda vs Prost instead! ;-)
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I miss this F1! I miss love Mika and hate Schumacher ^^
mein gott ich bekomm fast nen ste.... das waren noch zeiten,... das war f1 und ich hab sie alle gesehn, wirklich jedes rennen von 1993-2006... jedes wochenende. nicht mit heute zu vergleichen. ich schau zwar immer noch jedes rennen an, weil ich die formel 1 einfach liebe. aber an diese zeiten, kommt die heutige f1 einfach nicht mehr ran. alles zu glatt, zu hochglanz, zu perfekt. schade eigentlich :-(
I fucking miss this.
posting this a few weeks after the Belgium gp 2016. just to make this clear I am against what verstappen did to raikonnen! but look at that first defense of Michael in spa.. same move and everybody cheers for him. but verstappen is being told he is crazy after his move. I don't understand the people
The time F1 were cool...
I miss the sound of Murry and the cars
GP bikes More exciting than F1 now. The bikes are more exciting than the boring sounding F1 cars.
agree
If the car pulls away then it deserves to be in front
Mclaren had a beast of a car that season.. too fast
McLaren was better car in the beginning of the seasons -98 and -99, but later Ferrari took the lead. Häkkinen was just a brillint and maybe the fastest driver ever at his best. In 2001 he has lost his motivation which is understanable. You could say "if Häkkinen had been a Ferrari driver since -97, he would have won every year's titel til end of season 2004. But formula 1 is not driver against driver but the whole teams including teammates against each other. Everything has to work together and Michael wasn't as fast as Mika at his best, but Schumi had a awesome team and temamates who were 100 per cent behind him. In track&field you can talk about who is the fastest runner, but in F1 you have to sum together all parts of the team. Schumi succeeded to do that and that's the reason why he has 7 titel and is maybe the best driver ever (still not the fastest one).
lol
Totally agree with you regarding Hakkinen being perhaps the most naturally gifted Formula 1 driver of them all. When he was motivated, none was faster. His technique was simply sublime. If you can, go back and watch the old A1 Ring races from the late 90s, where nobody could live with Hakkinen through the final two corners. Also, you're right to point out the advantages that Schumacher had over him with his Ferrari setup. Having a team mate that is not allowed to compete with you always gave him a massive advantage. Just think if Coulthard always had to defer to Hakkinen. I think Hakkinen would have won 2000 as well, no problem, making it 3 titles in a row. That being said, Schumacher's performance at the new Malaysian circuit in 1999, upon his return after his leg break, was one of the best performances I have ever seen from a racing driver. The track unfamiliarity, as well as him having to effectively race 2 races - one for himself and the other to ensure that Eddie Irvine got maximum points - and him driving rings around everyone, including Hakkinen, was perhaps his best ever performance.
beginning of the video is somewhat misleading. Schumacher won the 94 and 95 championships against hakkinen