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As long as I can use the very historically accurate term 'rusty owl-hoot', I'm good...😂
OK!
1:40 This is the one lesson I have learned about history is that I should be very careful when using terms like "always" or "never" Because there will be somebody somewhere who is just chomping at the bit to enlighten me about the one time that it happened lol
That's a lesson hard learned by many of us!
There is a reason the old adage "There is nothing new under the sun" exists.
Exceptions to the rule as well. A couple of outliers don't make a majority. History is full of nuances.
People abuse the terms "always" or "never" because they are children of a post-industrial era that makes standardization its mainstay. And so people think that was the case in the past as well.
Very well done Mr. Santee. In my 33yrs of reenacting everything from the 16th through the 19th centuries I've encountered MANY reenactorisms from available clothing to common everyday activities...Great subject to help new folks getting in to the hobby to do their own research and not only listen to what others say without doing their own searching.
Wow, thank you
@@ArizonaGhostriders Anytime Sir.
A three-legged dog limps into a saloon in the old west... He growls, "I'm looking for the man who shot my paw!"
LOL!
I love your videos santee they make my Saturdays so much better because of you
Happy to hear that!
It’s hard not reenacting the past when the future is so bleek.
I’ve long held the opinion that we should all learn skills that don’t require electricity.
@@dr.froghopper6711 You're so right. When and wherever I go, just about all I can see is people with their eyes focused on a Cellphone or a Tablet, never in a book. They have no imagination. This makes me very sad.
@@harrisonmantooth7363 I’m trying to rebuild my grandfather’s blacksmithing tools. I inherited his old anvil and a small forge that needs serious work. My sons are enamored with computers, though one is thinking about making knives. They’re both working in high tech. One never knows.
Just make cowboy coffee and the world gets better.
@@ArizonaGhostriders or cooking meat on a real campfire or in any case not on a gas-fire or induction electric stove. Things tastes better, cooked on a wood fire 🤤
Amazing Santee. Great episode! Watched it with my now 10-month-old son. I never knew there was such a thing as reenactorisms!
Yep!
This is very interesting how this sort thing has a butterfly effect in spreading information. Thanks for always bringing neat little tidbits to our attention.
You're welcome
Truly a blessing to see another upload from you grace my feed, it's always enlightening and insightful stuff. Thanks!
Glad to hear it!
Santee got to say his line, I'm so happy.
Thank You!
There is a distinct irony that "Houston we have a problem" is also a reenactorism. The line said by Jim lovell on the mission is "Houston we've had a problem" it was changed for the movie to add a sense of peril and urgency and so people wouldn't think the danger had passed, and has now become the accepted quote
There we go! reenactorisms all around!
Like the famous Star Wars quote... "Luke, I am your father" is actually a quote from the movie Tommy Boy. The real line is, "No, I am your father!"
Was part of a Confederate reenactment unit back in the 70's. Also had a complete US Cav. outfit circa 1880, including saddle and all equipment. And a fine horse to boot. But there were no others around with said interest. Now back to the Confederate infantry reenactment unit... When we'd go out to perform in public, there was always a shortage of Yankee troops. Our captain asked me if I'd wear my indian war cav outfit to help fill the Yankee ranks. I advised it was from the wrong time period, and wouldn't work. So I ended up modifying some things, and obtained period correct articles to be properly equipped. And I spent nearly all my time as a yankee cavalry trooper in a Confederate infantry unit. Made me feel "sorta icky" as my little niece used to say.😲
Thanks for sharing.
I never expected to see myself in a video let alone be the thumbnail! Thanks so much it was amazing meeting you!!!
You're welcome, JM.
Another good one. I am a Reenactor but for the 18th century or 1700’s. We are all learning every day and the internet has proven must helpful for deep research. Keep up the good work.😊
Well said!
A big one I hear all the time doing 18th century military reenactment is “triangle bayonets were made that shape so they gave wounds that couldn’t be sewn up and were almost always fatal” but the triangular profile bayonets were made so they wouldn’t bend as easily when stabbing and hitting bone and often people survived even puncture of the lungs with bayonets.
So I read about them.
Additionally, the length of the triangle bayonet combined with length of long arm (musket or rifle) allowed a reach to penetrate rib cage of a horse. Additionally, the relatively small surface area of tip of triangle allows the start of entry port much easier, and the taper of triangle allows more rapid entry, and use of existing energy. (Think of a punch or a wedge). Blade bayonets not quite as efficient. Descendant from the pike to repel charges, the bayonet in this aspect became obsolete mostly with invention of cartridge (easier to shoot horse at distance and quickly reload). By early 1900's, bayonets accounted for 0.02% of all fatalities.
You Sir , Are Not Wrong ! Thank you Santee for keeping the Old West Alive 😊
Thanks for listening
I'm a great-grandfather myself, and *my* grandfather called them galluses. He was a very young man in the late 1890s.
Some called them braces as well. As shown they are also suspenders.
I believe the British still call them braces.
Fascinating, Santee. Regarding language: I’ve always said a civilized free man’s home includes a library and an armory. My library has many stories and even some books considerably more than a century old. Reading those is enlightening in regards to common speech of the time.
Yes! Good resources are a must.
Reenactorism! I never hear the term! Always learning...thanks to you amigo!
My pleasure, amigo!
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If you could find an old Sears and Robucks catalog along with a Farmer's Almanac or other period catalog, you'd be far ahead of the others. I quit reenacting in Florida because the Cavalry Unit changed the uniform because they didn't like what was issued. Very sad. They admitted to it. But still refuse to correct the situation. Be aware of 'Good Old Boys' clubs and clicks when getting into reenactments.
Yup! I've watched folks lose costume competitions because of not just ignorance, but refusal to believe the truth. One fellow presented historical evidence of his wardrobe and they still said, "No."
@@ArizonaGhostriders I did the same and offered to pay the fuel to visit the Flordida State Museum of History in Tallahassee. Let's just say that fell on deaf ears.
@@robertcole9391 It's a shame folks are so prideful that they won't learn.
In any form of re-enactment. . The Clique and reality.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Sorry, didn't mean to get on a tangent here. But being a retired NCO from the Army... Uniformity, check yourself historically is a major issue. Yeah there is leeway in some things. But common man! Guess we'll never resolve the 'Self made Hero' in all things.
Hey you rapscallion!! So glad I could catch this. It’s been awhile Santee!!
It has been! Thanks!
Thanks for the video, Santee. I always find the historical side of everyday life so interesting and enjoyable. In the UK they are usually called braces as suspenders are what women use to hold up their stockings. Most men no longer wear braces unless you are going for a period look such as that worn by the Peaky Blinders. Last time men wore braces in a big way was back in the 80s when they were usually bright red. As for not exposing yourself I remember when I was young seeing working men wearing both belt and braces to make sure that if one failed you still had the other holding up your trousers. These men themselves were from a much older period. Interestingly the wearing of both items became part of the language in the UK, so that adding extra security to something was and still is called the belt and braces approach.
Interesting info!
It seems as if the "braces" look is kinda coming back with some people, at least here in America. I didn't know that across the pond, "suspenders" refers to what we call garters. Thanks for that!
"The cat is out of the bag" is a saying from the 18th and 19th century British Navy and refers to the "cat-o'-nine-tails," the implement used to flog errant sailors, which was kept in a bag until needed. Roughly, it means, "There's no stopping the impending unpleasantness now, the Captain knows the unfortunate details and punishment is coming." It has nothing to do with actual felines.
Yes...but I got my cat in, didn't I!
So true Santee! I've been doing this for almost 40 years. Seen a lot of reenactorisms. Easy to look at period information to see what was. I like what she said and many reenactors forget, we'll never be like them.
Right.
Thank you Santee, another super video. Have a great weekend. :)
Thanks, you too!
Hi. I am a reenactor too and despite the different era (From ancient roman republic to first roman empire) and nation (Italy) I felt your video soooo relatable 😂 There are reenactors groups that simply use only wikipedia as source as I read archaeology articles, museum catalogs, and university books to do my research and forge or remake my replicas. And... okay, I can't expect visitors to the events to which I show daily life at the time to be authorities on History or speaking fluently in Latin, but I must admit that dispelling myths and clichés about history (mostly born during neo-humanism... thank you very much, 19th century...) is a very hard work. And there are a ton of them. But I have to admit that some of these events of pure ignorancy are tremendously exhilarating. Like that time when a colleague of mine was asked by a tourist from the U.S., "But...do any ancient Romans still exist on any reservations?" and he was like "whaaaat? O.o" Or an italian lady who asked me, with an astonished expression on her face: "but... did the ancient Romans know how to read and write? 😲". and I, screaming within my soul, explaining to her that yes: Ancient ROMAN literature, written in LATIN came from - Who would have guessed? - ancient ROMAN culture and authors. But we don't get too angry for that. These are nice stories to tell among reenactors and haveing some healthy laughs between us, the night, around the campfire or when we're at the table, dining after the event😂😅 Indeed: if you have any crazy reenactment stories of your own, I'd love to hear about it. Againg all my compliments for the channel and all your work
Thank you. I get strange questions from the public too. Guest: "Hey, where are your spurs?" Me: "I'm playing a banker. They didn't wear spurs while working in a bank." However, we must look at it as an opportunity to educate them on the period of history.
@@ArizonaGhostriders oh, yeah. When a good reenactor manages to teach something it's amazing. For me, the best pleasure is when someone who actually love history is never satiated with historical notions. And so you talk and talk, bringing up historical curiosities and passions that you can't always expose to the public, because it's a little more complicated stuff. 😍
@@TitusGalliusMontanus Yes, that "Oh!" moment when something rings true to them.
The question about ancient Romans on reservations made me die a little inside, I'm not gonna lie. It's more so the fact it was probably asked completely seriously. It's appalling how ignorant we Americans are sometimes. 😬
As an Actor who prides himself on his wardrobe, I have akways turned myself out in a get-up that looks like what the audience "expects" my type of character to look like with as much aurhenticity as I can get away with. This gets past a lot of questions about authenticity and such. Another question asked fequently, is, "Are you a Cowbuy?". I always tell the person that I am far too old and lazy to ever consider doing anything with Cattle!
In or out of character, I hope you can still rustle up a bowl of beef stew or a steak.
That's great!! LOL!
Good video Santee. The last mistake I made was thinking that I had made one. But I’m in New Mexico. It’s probably the heat!
HA!
Santee, This is Great. Thank you very much for keeping The Old West alive. You and your family have a beautiful and blessed weekend.
Thank You!
I always thought braces and galluses were more slang terms.
Braces were more UK, and galluses were just another term.
@@ArizonaGhostridersI looked it up on the online dictionary, and it's descended from gallowses, or gallows. I guess that works, seeing as how the pants were hung from the shoulders, so to speak. Interesting.
The Apple weather app says it’s only around 100°. In the mid 70’s I set out a thermometer in the direct sun. It was a 135° marked thermometer, but it blew up.
Wow!
Growing up in the ranching industry, I'm 68, we called the Bandana a Bandana or Wild Rag . They were usually a square yard or larger preferably silk. It was usually long enough to make a full wrap around your neck (if it's cold) and knotted in the front with a square knot or some other knot if you wanted to be fancy. We also let it loose like you show in the pictures. If you are riding drag or working in a high dust environment you pulled it up in a "holdup" fashion. Or you just folded it up and put it in your pocket.
Excellent info. Yes. Riding drag is a perfect reason for triangle in front!
I just joined up with a Civil War Re-enactment Group (Federal/Union) and the fellow I've stuck to like glue, who portrays a First Sergeant and has been doing it for almost 30 years has helped me put together all of the items I need and ensured that they're up to par with the standards of our company. However, there are certain exceptions to that rule. For example: sometimes we use earplugs. Our hearing is more important than accuracy when it comes to operating Springfield Muskets, so some of our guys opt to wear them regardless of the bright neon colors they often come in. Another example are rubber inserts for our brogans (shoes) or comfortable modern day socks. Most people never see these and they're simply for our comfort while marching and drilling. The last one I can think of is some of the food we eat. Your average enlisted man didn't have access to canned rations (they existed, but they were often spoiled or the lead was an issue by the time they got to the front lines), but we've cooked up eggs, corned beef hash and coffee on our morning campfire before. The hash often comes in tins with one of those little twist keys; which is not historically accurate, but as my First Sergeant says: "if they had access to it, they would have made use of it." While we do our very best to hide these things from the public (most of the time, our modern gear is hiding in our foot lockers or under blankets, etc.) and do our best to educate others on our gear, way of the life of a soldier, the battles and mindsets, the music, and so much more; we often do tell the public up front that we take our comforts as we can get them and soldiers of that time certainly did the same. : ) Thanks for another great video, Santee and best of luck to all of you re-enactors out there. Maybe I'll see you on the field sometime!
Awesome, and congrats. Enjoy it!
We’ll said. We’ve been reenacting for over 3 decades and are still learning and revising as we do!
Yes!
Thanks again Santee & Co.
Any time!
A grandfather was a child in the 1890s and we never saw him in anything that wasn't covering the whole body. Even when it was 90° out he never wore anything short.
Smart man
Love this, Santee! Learned a lot about my 19th century attire from your Dressing The Part series, Kim Williams, Chuck Williams, and The Tombstone Vigilantes. ~ The Wheelchair Preacher
Thank You!
Another excellent video, Santee! This topic is one of my pet peeves, "Incorrect reimacting." My ancestor wrote "We tired our scarfs around our faces to avoid been drowned by the rain while washing ourselves" and "Scarfs were tied to avoid dirt getting in your mouth and nose" Although I think life wasn't standardise back in the day. He wrote also, "My uncle crouched down beside and open fire, warming up in the morning before getting dress." I think what can happen with retrospective looks is that people start to generalise with their ancestors' history happening with everyone else. It's a bit like the saying you use, Sir, "Letting the cat out of the bag", the original version of the phrase is lost and replaced by various other versions over time, it's human nature to do this. Regardless, another wonderful insight into the time.
The writings we have from those that were there are important to understand how things were done.
Thank you for this video. This was always a pet peeve of mine, too. When I was active in the hobby, we would invariably have troopers that would give their "absolute" statements or would try to bend the guidelines to have an exception that may have been technically historically accurate but realistically, would never have been seen in the theater of the war that you are working in. An example was a new trooper thought a LeMat revolver would be cool to have in a western theater cavalryman's kit. No freakin' way. So, the philosophy that we adopted was strive for "the typical, not the exception." The key is to blend in with what would have normally been seen and not try to draw attention to oneself by having or acting in the exception.
It's a tough thing and can cause a lot of problems within groups...and when teaching the public.
Good point. I'm sure there's always an exception that can probably be found in some picture or document somewhere, but it is better to show what would be the usual or typical.
GREAT video! THANKS!
Glad you liked it!
The reenacting world is fascinating, especially for an era where someone may have an ancestor who's experience they might be able to draw on
Yes
I can't imagine back then people having disputes over clothing like suspenders and trousers, i think nowadays regardless if people wanna dress like someone from back then its important to do a little research before people call you out on it, thanks for info santee 🤠
Right. Maybe the Rev. War reenactors were picky then.
This was a really interesting video. And in just 5 minutes I learned so much! 🤠
Thank You!
Well, I'm one of the worst for reenactorisms, but at least I know it😃 It's amazing how many experts content creators run into on KZhead.
Right?? HAH! Well, you are representing the golden age of silver screen fast draw, so that is it's own category. Keep on truckin' pard!
@@ArizonaGhostriders Thanks Santee. I respect the authenticity. I've never done the research and am just familiar with western movies and what looks cool. (I grew up in the 1970s, Elvis, Evel Knievel, Clint Eastwood the coolest decade to figure out what's "cool"😃)
Hey Arizona Ghost Riders. Your friend Ted here. Have you ever thought about doing episode on the Union and Confederate soldiers in the old west after the Civil War? I understand it was a tough time for all the men involved. Thanks for the good show man. Me being a civil war re-enactor appreciates it
Thanks, yes I will look into that topic.
@@ArizonaGhostriders. Cool. Thanks. I hope to get to Arizona this fall.
Very informational today, thanks for the work. Stay safe out there, and take it easy man.
Much appreciated.
You have the best title sequence on KZhead.
Thank You!
Great video Santee. Very informative. Thanks for sharing it. JT
Any time!
Loved it!
Thank You!
thanks sir for the update
ok!
another awesome video, thanks again always enjoy them
Glad you like them!
I ain't learn't near 'nuf yet, I got lots more to go! I've heard "they didn't do that back then" several times before, probably why I like "B Western", I can see it in the movie or TV show. Ohio Hot ain't no fun either! I should have built the greenhouse in the spring, or wait until fall! Excellent video Santee!
Thank You!
Thank you, Santee, for another great show. I agree with you, the historical accuracy is needed. Because I've worked in museums that were having problems with people with fake facts. So I'm glad you guys are clamping down on that. And making sure that you're right, have a great day.
Thank You!
Once again Santee great video. Santee you are a Daisy! Thank you Sir for all your hard work and time.🤠
Very welcome
As you know, I like wearing what I believe to be the popular conception of Old West attire portrayed in TV & film. Of course, I'm in Missouri where we don't "stitch count" what the volunteers are wearing. We really don't reflect the actual manner of dress for the time period for this part of the country either; it's all the Southwest look.
Well said, Mitch!
Very interesting! Thanks, Santee!
Thank You!
"Braces" vs. "Suspenders" conversation is alive and well in the current environment of men's apparel. I order all my suits with the _Braces buttons._ Sometimes I get stupid looks. However, I do not rule out the possibility that that look may be the natural facial expression for people of the younger generation.
Well, since there is strong evidence to prove that both words were used, that should end any controversy. I actually find them to be very comfortable. The younger generation wears skinny jeans...which don't require suspenders! LOL!
"Yeah, but it's a dry heat" 😁 My question about anachronism is the use of the word "guy" to refer to a male human being. In my reading, I don't recall seeing it in contemporary writings until around the post-WWI era. But I hear it in a lot of westerns. So I wonder how far back it really goes in this meaning.
It goes back to the era, referring to Guy Fawkes. Not sure how mainstream it was until later...
Great video Santee
Glad you enjoyed it
Santee got a question, In the movie Death Wish, Charles Bronson's character goes to Arizona and watches an old west show. I was wondering if that was a Arizona Ghost Riders show?
HA! No, but it was at Old Tucson, where I work. Right at the Hotel Del Toro in the center of town. The gunfighters were or another generation...
You really have a very cool job. Glad to be a supporter
Thank You!
You've nailed some of why i don't reenact anymore
That's why I just perform and teach history. I've won costume competitions, and seen people lose who shouldn't have. It's sometimes tough.
Thanks for another great episode Santee! ( I know what you mean about hot...just got back to Florida from a work trip to Africa...whew! Need to try AZ heat to compare...) It's always great to see more about the differences between what's become the legend instead of what the reality was. It gets even better when Set Dressers do their research and we can spot it in the movies - nothing like watching a movie and being able to point out the little things like Sears and Roebuck coat hangers, or proper rolled rawhide buttons instead of turned wood. On the other hand there are those that are authenticity....na...ahem. When I was messing around in the Society for Creative Anachronism...there were some that would call people out on material or mixing of time periods, garnering the term "Society for Compulsive Authenticity". Unless you're doing something that absolutely requires you to be as authentic as possible (living history interpreter or in a historical documentary) then if you're in the ballpark, that's doing really good as not everyone can afford the correct trappings. Then again, that's part of what made Rustlers Rhapsody, Buster Scruggs, or even Back to the Future 3 such fun movies. Thanks again for a great Saturday pick-me-up! Bless!
Yes, I hear ya. It's important to nurture new members and teach them. If one is wrong, then learn from it and move on.
I costume a bit, and I have drawn from historical outfits for some of my costumes (two I'm specifically thinking of are a "Victorian" lady and a steampunk gunslinger law person). Neither one of those costumes were completely period correct, and I honestly never meant for them to be. I made the steampunk one kinda my own with tons of gears and I made a couple beaded hatbands and made it more Western than the first time I wore it; the "Victorian" lady was a jacket I found in a thrift store that was from the '80s or '90s, a skirt I had, and a bustle thing I put together. One of these days, I'll make those two costumes a bit more authentic, but they were just costumes. I love to delve into the research and see what they actually wore back then and did back then and try to incorporate what I learned into the costumes I wear. ❤
Another great video Santee!! Btw need some Arizona Ghostriders hats in the shop to go with my tshirt!
Cool! Glad you got some!
This was really interesting👍
Glad you enjoyed it
A great start to my saturday
Thank You!
Great one just like always Santee!
Thanks again!
Regarding bandana knots....remember that there really weren't candid photographs and if one was a working man, to have one's photograph was either a great and rare honor, or it was very expensive. Either way, one would 'gussy up' as much as possible, and the knot in front would look better, which explains why knots in the front is much more common in the photography record.
That's definitely a possibility with some situations, but without a source we can't definitively say, "They always wore the triangle in the front...unless it was for a photograph." Since there are two schools of thought on this I think we can agree that they were worn both ways. Also, folks rarely mention the triangle on one shoulder and the knot on the other shoulder, which was also done.
@@ArizonaGhostriders as you mentioned, bandanas had utility. If you're working all day or riding a horse, those things could end up anywhere....
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I belong to a couple of Civil War groups on Facebook, and a term I’ve heard used there to describe cheap or incorrect reenactment clothing is Farb.
Yep. We don't really use the term in Old West reenactment.
Here In England what you call “suspenders” would always only be called “braces” so could be named by a “Brit” if recently arrived from across the pond, suspenders would always only refer to a women’s item of holding up hoes or stockings
Interesting!
Great bit of history.
Thank You!
Thanks for another video.
Our pleasure!
Nice to know I’m not the only person that gets confused easily! Super cool (or hot…)!
HAAH! Thanks. Hot is right.
You just can't hit the like button more than once!! Missouri is hot, humid, rainy, and hodt outside!!
Thanks! LOL
I like old west anachronisms - clean shaven men everywhere, women wearing pants, blue jeans, pants with belt loops, collared shirts on everyone, modern Stetsons, post 1896 style Colt 1873 SAA revolvers, 1892 Winchester lever action rifles, Arvo Ojala Hollywood fast draw rigs, and everybody riding horses despite the visible lack of horse poop. In this regard perhaps the worst offender was the John Wayne movie THE COMANCHEROS, which was set in 1843!
Oh yeah...a lot of 'em. 🤠
Thankyou always like learning new words I'll never use lol.
Well, you might find use for them in a Benzinery. Now, there's another word you will not use!
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hey santee id love to see a half hour ghost riders presentation on what lonesome dove got right and what they got wrong
Interesting....
One day Santee, I'll get some clothes, and I'll wear a Sombrero to look the part. By the way, we're burning up too. It got up into the 90's this week here in Idaho Falls. Too much Heat!!!!!
Yowza!
I used to belong to a group that was very professional, a lot of the time if the public hadn't been let in they would start the fires with a lighter. I did it as fast with flint and steel, the steel was made from an old file.
Hmmm interesting.
Good one, Santee! Having been a reenactor for 30+ years, F&I War to 1880s Gunfighters, this is something I like to hear. Too much political correctness in reenacting. Another saying I heard, " If they didn't do it then, you don't do it now!"
It's all something to be mindful of!
"It appears that it only takes one or two people to convince many other folks that something is right or wrong when it isn't." How currently... appropriate. Today.
Kinda timeless, eh?
If I had money to spend I'd be a civil war, old west, world War 2 reenactor and Imperial stormtrooper cosplayer. Maybe someday.
One day
Research is an ongoing process compadre😊
It is, amigo
Crazy how this is the same problem we are having in the antique firearms world. There is so many things that people do and believe was done in the old west. But didnt become a common Practice until decades into the 1900s. For a example carry 5 vs 6 in single action revolvers.
I guess that's true in firearms, too!
We are farb here in Missouri. Same meaning
Glad we don't use "Farb" in the Old West arena out here. I'd hit someone. LOL!
How is the heat there Santee
Not bad right now. Under 100.
Never or always - the trap of re-enacting any period "All generalizations are false, including this one." Mark Twain
Well said.
Anoher good one, and something i hadn't reealy considered before.
Good
Grand job. Another very interesting video. I'm wondering how long it will take for "reenactorisms" to jump ship and start getting applied to everything outside of reenactments. It's a phenomenon badly in need of a word. Of course, the Germans probably have a word for it. they seem to have a word for everything. It reminds me of when I was in my second last year of school and I was talking with a classmate about Tombstone, the movie, and we were both agreeing that was the best Doc Holliday ever, and a girl at the next desk got annoyed and said - "You idiots! It's Doc Hollywood! Doc Hollywood! Will you at least get his name right." Now that's what I call a reenactorism.
HA! Yes, I guess it would be. I left out the whole "Huckle-bearer" ridiculousness that was going on a couple years ago.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Huckle-bearer definitely sounds like something Doc Hollywood would say. That would be a very interesting video, btw.
@@sam2cents Yeah, it was this whole thing where people were telling folks that Doc said, "I'm your hucklebearer" which referred to palbearers and the handle on a coffin was called a "huckle." There is no reference in history saying that it was ever called that. Not to mention the script actually says, "huckleberry!"
@@ArizonaGhostriders Thank you very much for that info. Being Irish in Ireland, all I knew about huckleberries was Huckleberry Hound. I saw the movie in the cinema and then received it as a gift on tape the following Christmas, and did play and rewind a few times to make sure he said "huckleberry". And I knew huckleberries existed, although had little idea what they looked like. However, he did also say "peach of a hand" and "you're a daisy if you do" and I thought huckleberry must be something along those lines. Thank you very much for going above and beyond to explain about that argument - I have come across that hucklebearer thing in videos and even in the occasional book.
I’m not sure if this terminology is correct but I remember hearing about men’s pants being called breeches which later changed to britches. I suppose it could be possible but it sounded weird to me for some reason.
Yep, a slang term for sure.
Hey Santee, can you do a video on ponchos in the old west! Love the channel man
Did one! Coats & Jackets video. Thanks for watching.
I’ve always loved the idea of reenacting especially westerns but there isn’t anything nearby me which sucks
Start a group!
@@ArizonaGhostriders that’s an idea! But I don’t know the first thing about starting a group or finding a location and getting permission.
I've definitely seen some disagreements on attire at some SASS matches
It happens. SASS doesn't stress period correct attire enough to make it like the reenacting thing. One shooter can just fall back on "It's not the Single Action and Costume Society."
@ArizonaGhostriders true but some guys take it very seriously
@@gunfighterzero Yes, and those folks look terrific.
@@ArizonaGhostriders yes !
I ran into the same thing with eastern historians. Yes you dressed up for battle, but heat injuries were a big problem like they are today. Just like you can get cold injuries, like frostbite.
Yes
I try to stick to loop holsters and such but do prefer jeans to California pants.😅
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@@ArizonaGhostriders no straw hats!!!!!!!
very good vid his week Santee, try and stay cool in Az,
Thanks, will do!
I'd like to know what leather care looked like in the old west
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@@ArizonaGhostriders wow I wasn't expecting to get a reply from the big guy 🙂 thank you
No problem. In short, they understood oil kept the leather supple and prevented it from cracking. Things like Neatsfoot oil was originally a skin care regimen, but was later used on leather (which is skin).@@HarryBirch-dj9zp
@@ArizonaGhostriders thank you for taking the time to reply. I've been a fan of the channel for a while 🙂
I’m trying to find a reenactment group in the Las Vegas, NV area. Already have period clothing, gun belt, etc 😂 Also can you make a video about those swinging saloon doors depicted in Western movies. How did the saloon lock its doors unless the had another door. How common was the small swing doors?
Most saloons with swinging doors has another set of doors that locked. Not sure about Vegas reenactors, but surely someone in NV has a group.