The Mystery Behind Grotto_P Is Finally SOLVED - Borderlands Unseen
On this episode of Borderlands Unseen, we're cracking wide open the case of Grotto_P, and the Second Stars.
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I think this might have been a lectra city type map, an optional map with a big side quest and a couple of smaller ones like lectra city or like the wonderlands extra maps
Exactly my thought!
it would have made lectra city fit in with the game more thats for sure. i dont remember there being any other huge areas with their own entire questline like lectra city did, but this area 100% fits the ticket. The map looks massive, theres a detailed story thats entirely contained within it, etc.
These kind of borderlands videos have quickly become my favorite. The play throughs get really stale after a while. This is like a breath of fresh air to me.
It would be awesome if they released this in 2024 as a headhunter
Sounds like a headhunter pack
this is poggers. did you see the cut echo icons of Troy and Tyreen yet with Troy's cut line you could proc by skipping his fight's final cutscene fast enough? my super cool and hot and swag-filled friend found those and they're pretty neat. hope you cover them in a future episode.
To be honest after seeing some of the images that you pullef from the cut content from The director's cut And the actual map mesh It looks like it could be a prototype for a Wonderlands map like Wargtooth Shallows.
Love the videos, man. Although, I wonder how one can access cut audio logs? I've tried to look into finding cut dialogue for BL2, but all I could find were the ones I've already heard of: Respawn station voicelines, tina after she found out roland died, etc. I want to dig deeper and find more
if you run the console command 'open grotto_p' you get the error "Travel Failed: You cannot travel to the map the host is currently in. You do not have the necessary add-ons installed." not sure if that's just a generic error they show for any map the game doesn't recognize but was worth a try lol. start/map commands don't seem to work but i did try them.
Yeah, it will typically occur for DLC levels you don’t own, but will also happen if you try to travel to a map that does not exist. As it stands, Grotto_P isn’t actually present in the files, which would explain that error
@@EpicNNGdang, was hoping i could see it lol
Your logic doesnt quite add up: Id like to reason this was all protypes for the DLC 2; Guns, Love, and Tentacles -With the inclusion of the audio, its mentioned how the vault hunter has to go into the "Dahl factory", which is similar to a moment near the end of DLC 2, where you have to enter a Dahl factory with Gaige -On the theme of Dlc 2, Grotto might be of been a prototype design for the Cankerwood map, within DLC 2. -The Tavern mentioned can easily be a beta design for the The Lodge in DLC 2. -The origins of Threshers: Threshers actually got to Pandora from a side mission in the Pre Sequel where you send thresher Eggs to Pandora, and populated sense then? whos to say they were never sent elsewhere, we know terramorphous exists, with no backstory to that big guy, its reasoned that Threshers can naturally grow to that size. And seeing as elpis was destroyed or something, thresher eggs could of been sent out into orbit..could of. -Who actually gives this mission in the Pre Sequel? Sir Hammerlock -Who stole Hammerlock's arm in bl2? A thresher -What was DLC 2's focus about? Wainright and Hammerlock Threshers have always been connected to Hammerlock, which initially could of been a name remnet to the "Tentacles" of threshers instead of the tentacles connected to the heart at the end of dlc 2, inspiring the name sake. ===== With the protype voice lines being of Irish accents, it might be reckoned that the cut Dlc could be dedicated to Zane, however this is false if we assume the voice lines were only temporary from the dev team. . Also, your logic of "the map feels like its apart of Pandora" doesn't automatically mean its NOT dlc. Dlc 6, Director's Cut has the vault hunter go through parts of the base game to get to the dlc side areas like Eschaton Row, connected to Promethea for example. Im aware dlc 6 chronically happens after the base game, so it was developed after the base game, since Ava has Maya's powers, but the concept of a "Director's Cut", is to include things throught a development of a game, ergo a repurposed Grotto idea somewhere. . Speaking of such, DLC 6 might be a clear idea to think about aswell, seeing as all the side locations are in the zone maps. Eschaton Row-zoneConvoy? Enoch's Grove-zoneGrotto? (could also be zoneCrypt) Karass Canyon- I got nothing Scryer's Crypt-zoneCrypt? (could also be PlanetVulcan) . This all in all could of been a stand-in for Eden 6 as well, seeing as from the Zones shown, there is no Eden 6, only "CityVault" (prometha) and "Desert Vault" (possibly Nekrotafeyo) which eludes to big moments in the game.
I can't see it being cut content or concepts for DLC 2 at all, since we already have cut content and behind the scenes stuff for that out our disposal, and it does not at all align with the findings for Grotto. The name "Grotto" could very well have been re-used for the location in DLC 2, but there is no doubt that the area pertaining to grotto is in no way comparable in size to that of DLC 2. In regards to the DLC 6 areas, it's also important to note that their file structure in the files all end with _Mystery, and take place within the PatchDLC directory. As for the map taking place on Pandora, one piece of info I forgot to include is a travel station for the map, which states it is on Pandora. That's a rough error on my part for leaving out, but I figured it was clear as day this map took place on Pandora as is. There are also references to travelling to Grotto from Pandora - but there's some extra confirmation regardless :P The accents of the prototype voices do not at all pertain to the setting of the DLC, as numerous other prototype dialogue files in the game are from all stretches of accents, and some even have numerous VAs for different lines within the same entry As for the theory of it being a stand in for Eden-6, this is also not true. Not shown in the list of zones I threw up on screen are the rest of the base game locations. I did not show those in the video, as they are irrelevant for getting the point across - which was that this zone resided in the base game. Hope this clears up any confusion :D
I see! thank you! I didnt know of the _Mystery stuff, seeing as this is roughly my first bl3 "cut content" video, so I haddent a clue of much else other then this video. The mention of the travel station sells it for me; it was fun theory crafting tho, I respect you reaching out and telling me about everything! Im glad to be apart of this community, very informed you are. I retract my initial harsh claim of "your logic not adding up" since that was spiteful, my apologies.
No worries! I know when making these videos people will possibly ask questions, which is why I'm trying my absolute best to make sure beforehand I have as much info as possible. I will say after replying to you I only further became upset that I left out the fast travel. I REALLY wish I had put that in. It leaves no room for doubt, but here's hoping it's not a huuge deal. Thanks for watching :D
it was a dahl ship you go into in DLC 2 not a factory but I guess it probably doesn't matter.
always good to relearn a new fact! I had just finished DLC 2 a few days ago, so I cant pull the "I forgot card", but thank you for retellin me, I actually do appreciate it Greenhawk!
Did you remove your discord by chance? I am having a hard time installing the Redux mod.
here ya go: discord.gg/yp74FT2ueT
Thanks EpicNNG!
No problem :D
Hope to see many more of these videos!
Love these videos! Great work, research and editing dude
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Interesting, sure, but how are you double jumping? Please don’t say it’s a mod for pc…