Replacing the FORGOTTEN CHARM once removed from the chateau?
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Do not remove beams! Instead create a dropped ceiling around the center "raised" ceiling. You keep you house supported properly and the ceilings are plenty high anyway and your chandelier will be properly supported as well as everything on the floors above.
Thanks for the tips!
I agree, no point damaging structural integrity by removing beams, a dropped central section will create a similar effect, but in reverse to raising it.
Just three beams...how fantastic it is to have the Chateau to get all your design ideas to life ❤
Plus if you remove those beams you won’t have anything to attach a chandelier to! Lol
If I were you, I wish, I would use a thin strip to join everything together on the panel. Another thought would be a thin strip of flowers, different kinds to join the corners. Make a few and see what you like. After staring at it, what if you took the large mold made another one and put it upside down, like a mirror image then come up with something in the middle but nothing touching. I think that would look so pretty.
Terry you cannot remove 3 beams, they are structural. Your upper floor will sag and eventually fall. You can add pieces to the outer ones to created the depth you want ( false ceiling) and the existing ceiling will be your centre . I’m sure I can have something drawn out if you need it.
A structural engineer 's opinion will be needed to even estimate if taking beams out would affect the stability of the chateau.
I agree with dropping the ceiling center instead of removing beams. Keep all the stability you can in the old girl!!! 😂😂😂
A very thin elegant line would look fabulous. The moldings are ornate enough in their own right to not need anything more:))
I agree with you, Terry: the more delicate and thin the connecting wood trim pieces the better they’ll look, I think.
Thanks Wendy 🥰
Agree. I think a very thin half round trim would be nice.
Agree - can the thinner piece still have the "x"es?
A thinner moulding would be nice with a string of pearls as part of the design. Using resin.
I wonder if BBQ sticks are too delicate?
The mouldings are beautiful. I would do every other panel - less is more 😉 The thin beading is better. Don't compromise the structural integrity taking beams out! Build a false ceiling, its tall enough!
i agree …It can be a bit overwhelming with so much molding on each panel
I agree too…alternate panels would emphasise the intracacy.
No Terry, do not remove beams, the chateau needs them. Extravagant already exists, do mot overdo it.
I agree…create around them❤
I agree, less is more. Simple is more sophisticated.
You have to think about the integrity of the building. Removing beams can create more damage.
Thanks Claudette 🥰🥰
I wouldn't be removing any beams. And I also know you'll design around them beautufully without doing so. 😊
Thank you 🙏😊
I always like seeing the opening, and the cottage chimney has smoke curling up. I really did like how that got renovated.
Thanks zach 🥰
Molding is beautiful. Do every other panel, that way you only need 11. The plain panels would work to rest the eyes.
Terry, in most cases, “Less is more” The intricate detail on the trim you are adding to each of the four corners of the panels does not need any strips no matter how thin or narrow. Normally I would never tell you what to do but in this case I say “Stop fiddling!” 🥰 When you have finished doing the entire room you will see that’s a lot of detail which won’t need any more. I love you to bits Terry because you are brilliant at what you do but listen to a 71 year old who has decorated many homes “A la Francaise” xxxx 💕🥰💕🥰💕 big hug from Alex in Florida
Try leaving 25mm or so between the straight trim and the corner molding. It should look like a frame but keep the visual lightness to keep the detail of each element
I learn sooo much from your hard work! Your team can take the worst state of this Chateau and turn it around when most would cringe at the prospect! You all have similar expectations and work ethics… show us viewers a meal with you all. Sharing past experiences and finds on the property and a relaxing time together in the 🌞 sunshine. Thank you lovely people from Spokane, Washington ❤
Terry as talented as you are, paint a trompe l’oeil tre ceiling or source it out. It will be stunning as are the other ceilings in other rooms. I don’t like to think of those beautiful beams leaving the room.
When you started on this room, didn't your Mom jokingly say, it would be finished in June! At the rate your going June could be a reality. ❤
I would not take the beams out they give the room character and are beautiful ❤
I think that you would be better to drop the ceiling a little on the edge which will create the coffrered "tray" ceiling you envisage. I would strongly recommend against removing beams. The mouldings are fabulous.
Thanks John 🥰
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Terry you are the visionair lol but if you put the deco in every panel i think.less is more no overload try it like that you can always add 😊❤😊❤
The moulding is beautiful, the thinner the better, dainty is best with the design. Don't remove the beams, keep the integrity of the Chateau. Dream big, be sense able.
Ditto. Do NOT remove the beams. Structural integrity is most valuable thing you can save in the chateau.
Moldings look great , the second option with a thinner thinner wooden sounds great. About the bedroom ceiling...at home oir dinner room has that kind of volume you are trying to create, instead of removing beams how about lowering the sides, living the center as is. It creates the same feeling, and it would be very cozy...
Thank you Paula 🙏 ☺️
What about a finer beaded - string of pearl - molding? If would pick up the beading in the large molding 😉 I like tour vision for the ceiling but rather than take structural beams out, could you not achieve a faux look by dropping the ceiling with a recessed insert?
Can you use half of the cross hatch molding, cutting lengthwise.
Agree with most comments about thin lining on moldings, do every other panel and don't remove beems :D
Silicone molds are great 👍
The beams are vital to the stability of the chateau. They must remain in place. I cancelled purchase of a beautiful place because a structural engineer warned me the beams were compromised when plumbing was installed. I have owned a home where steel I beams had to be installed for stability. I was a very expensive thing to do.
I think if I were Tracy and Ash I would lock Terry away until the chateau was completed. LOL
I agree Jerry 😂😂😂😂
Terry does have a great creative mind though!
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Flipping the wall panels was the perfect solution to complement the moldings! I love these features. I agree to use a small, tiny, tiny size wood frame to tie the moldings together.
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They look amazing. I think the tinier the better, something simple so that the feature pieces stand out. I believe you will make the right choice regardless.
I think a fine open type of scroll work connecting the other pieces of scrollwork would look better than something solid. A solid piece distracts from the delicate scroll work because it looks too “heavy” with the finer pieces.
terry if you want to take out the beams you will need to get a structural engineer to calculate steel replacements to make sure you dont mess with the structural integrity of the building. you dont want to ruin all your hard work
Marie Antoinette was my ancestors cousin, her mother was my ancestor too
Don't remove beams without talking to an engineer first. People's idea's of a dropped ceiling sound good. ❤❤❤❤❤
So amazed as to how tough those designs are when you remove them from the mold
The resin is brilliant! 🥰
Playing with resin is my happy place, this must be a blast. 😅
How genius to make your own molds! Love the design on the panels, really adds elegance to the space. Do you really need to add trim? Once the gilding is done, they will pop all in thier glory on there own. If you have to, perhaps a very thin line of gold just enough to accentuate rather than take away from. I am sure, whatever you choose, it will look absolutely amazing when it is done! ❤
Beautiful designs always!!! What a living piece of art the chateaux will be for ages to come !!!❤
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I think, plain simple beading would work well and not take away from the beautiful mouldings.
Yes Terry it needs a thin half round beading something plain to complement the mouldings. But please get a structural engineer in first before removing any beams. X
What are the chances Terry is messing us about removing beams? As get back for all the lamp post comments ?😂
I love the trompe d’oeil idea that Adrian considered….it would be a great idea for a fake window with a picture of the landscape from other side of chateau. I think to put all that molding on every panel is heavy. A “window “ would lighten it up.
The trim joining the mouldings does need to be like a pin stripe to keep the look of the mouldings delicate.
Terry you’re a one-man moldings factory! What a genius idea.
Hi all how about something that’s delicate scrolling leafy flowers between the molding. Something that would show the wall color through the scrolling. Love all the resin work very inspiring 😊
That would be truly beautiful. ❤
You pay attention to detail so well! It warms my heart that you care so much! Keep up the good work!!! ❤
You can use soutache braid - starch it - put it on the wall and paint over it. An interior designer friend of mine does that on ceiling moldings and it looks great.
I’m in agreement with NOT removing beams . Not unless you get a structural engineer opinion. You got great vision and beautiful Ideas . But even a designer needs a reality check from an structure engineer. You may find it can be done but the expense may not be cost effective or it all may be easier than you thought. If the engineer says yes then by all means do it. I’m excited to see the mouldings and I know you will figure out the border. Beautiful job ! I’m so proud of you all and Jonathan is just growing into a wonderful young man !
I would suggest picking up powder pigments for resin, I found that mixing paint in resin can stop it from curing properly. The appliqués are stunning btw! ❤
I would also advise against interfering with the building structure. It is fundamentally impossible to estimate how the building will “behave”. If you don't reject the idea, I would definitely call in a structural engineer.
I agree Terry, the cross pattern is too much. You will figure it out, you always do. I still think flipping the panels was the most ingenious idea ever, its stunning with that moulding! 😍
Thanks Jo 🥰
Terry do not take those beams out. Just create false ceiling below. To me the ceiling looks high enough. Mouldings looks stunning but I think every second one will be enough. Do not overdo.
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Agree I have a bad feeling about this...
The moldings are so pretty that anything in between ( trim pieces) should be simple and elegant so as not to distract the eye from the elegance of the moldings. Even just a simple half round could be pretty. I understand that the style of the period can be quite ornate, yet the moldings themselves are just so grand. What a great idea to use the red so it's a perfect base for the gold. You are all amazing.
I think the small beading I wouldn't remove the beams very dicey ❤❤😮
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LOOKS GREAT W/OUT CONNECTING THEM
Moulding suggestion: in between the raised mouldings use gilding paint alone on the paneling. In fact, if you opt to paint the recessed frames within the paneling itself you solve two issues. 1. No need to make 100 straight pieces 2. You don't have to add more raised molding to the bottom panels, or at least not as many.
Removing the beams to create a tray ceiling might also create a sound funnel effect to your apartment upstairs, with little space for sound insulation.
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I am with Tracy and Ash in the panic-nervous-scared group on "removing 3 beams" from the ceiling. I didn't quite understand what your reason was for that, Terry. I like the same bars you used in before with the "x's that you gold leafed. Might as well carry the style on. It turned out beautifully. 24 panels full of molding is a lot, I must say. What will you do about hanging paintings with all that molding? Whatever you decide, I'm sure it will turn out magnificently .
I like how one project teaches you things to use on the next one!
I think you are right about the thinner wood beading the moulding are lovely. It sounds abit scary removing beams 😂❤
If you were to cut three beams and use the wood to make a square void, with thinner steel or iron above the void, I think you would get the recess you need for the chandelier well, provided it is not more than a meter square. It would be best to have an architect or engineer OK it.
Your natural instincts are spot on Terry.
Terry you are the Master of all that you design. Stick with your instinct. Can you do a reversed coffered type ceiling. Like an upside down pyramid effect ? Soldier on.🧡🧡🧡⚜⚜⚜
Gotta love the details. Moldings really do make a difference. Awesome.
Thanks Ed 🥰🥰
Terry, the moldings on the bottom corners stand alone quite nicely, they do not have to have that bar added - they do not have to visually 'weight' the same as the top, I hope you will keep it just the way it stands (with guilding of course)
The mouldings are beautiful. I'm surprised at the amount of the intricate detail it retained. Well done you. Take care and keep well until the next video. X❤😊
The braided rope in the pattern would be lovely as the completed molding
Hi Terry, my first instinct in this room is to just paint the walls without additional mouldings but an elegantly designed ceiling which you’re good at! If you’re determined to do those mouldings, I’m sure it will look extremely nice and I agree the joining bits of straight edging to be as fine as possible! John in Monmouth 🏴
I think simple trim in between the moldings. They’re gorgeous. 💖
Remember, removing three ceiling beams is also removing three joists that support the floor of your apartment!
With the mo!ding question. Do the red on but cut it thinner. Looks like if you cut off the bottom part you'd have what you need.
I don’t think I would dare to disagree with your design choices. Everything you have done has been amazing, I’m all in with whatever you want!😂❤❤❤❤
Keep it simple with connecting the moldings. Will make them POP. Going to be Amazing. ❤❤❤
For the trim molding, can you use just the top half of the "x' molding instead of the entire piece? That would be more in alignment with the size of the corner moldings.
Definitely the wood pieces for the mouldings, half the size the sample you have would look great, the other one is just too much. The mouldings you are making are just lovely and look very authentic.
Sorry someone stole the panel. That.mold is awesome. You have so much patience
The thinner the better with the trim, not so proud of the height of the scroll work- The scroll work is delicate, the frame should also be delicate as well... Beautiful job!
I don't think it even needs the extra long trim pieces...looks beautiful just with the corners and the center piece.❤❤❤❤
I would like to see just the four corners with the moldings then the large piece that you have near the top of the panel moved down so the bigger part sits just above the center of the panel with the tapered part just below the center. In the States we call the ceiling you are describing a tray ceiling. I think it is a great idea! You should definitely do it in at least one bedroom. Or Maybe it would look better in a room with just panels, no molding on the panels competing with the tray ceiling. Love your channel.
Our structural engineer, Dominick said you absolutely cannot take out the beams. You are compromising your entire structure. You’re very talented. Just dress it up. Also, the thinner frame definitely would be the best.
Lovely looking moulding,should look brilliant when you have painted them,keep up the great work your doing,the place is looking beautiful,I’m impressed by your dedication to bringing the château back to its former glory
Go with your instinct Johnathan regarding trim. You've not been wrong yet.🏴
More Moldings .... great additions to the chateau. Can't wait to see where these moldings are going to end up.
Thanks John 🥰🥰
Cut the beading in half and make a molding from that? A thinner one would look amazing…a bit fiddly😱! The ‘Amazing casting resin’ can be coloured red for base beneath the gilding, much quicker and would make your work easier and quicker😂❤. Love your creativity and hard work!
Very thin Plain strip to compliment the ornate design
The molding to tie the other pieces together,with the knots, if you can take the plain section of so split it in half, I think just the knots part on its own would look good, and as others have said, no Terry don't remove any beams lol create the depth you want with a drop ceiling, heck you could even put in a stained glass panel backlit in the center ;)
My 2 cents....Check with a structural engineer first then if all is good, move forward. Go thin on the connecting trim pieces. Keep them plain so as not to take away from the main pieces. Terry might be slightly insane but its his beautiful insanity that creates his gorgeously decorated rooms. 😅
Wow! ❤ You have an amazing design aesthetic. Ambitious and elegant. Well done!
Thank you! 😊
I agree, the connecting piece between the beautiful mouldings needs to be smaller:)
Terry the mouldings are beautiful. Is there no end to your talents. Only 22 to go is that all 😂. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
😂😂 thanks Pauline 🥰🥰🥰
Master Craftsman Terry strikes again. The moldings are beautiful. I agree with your idea of a thinner trim. Maybe 1/2 the width of the red one. I wouldn't touch the structural beams. I'd work around them. I'm sure Terry has an amazing idea tucked away in his head that would work perfectly with those beams. Terry surprise us!!!
I think people use master craftsman to easy ????
Have no idea how you learnt how to make the things you do but you are all so talented amazing
Could you do a rhin, unconnected but centered piece on bottom, sides etc - or an unconnected set of raised dots? The eye would connect them even if not solid but would look less boxy n heavy?
You have done an amazing job with the mouldings! The thinner the connector pieces the better❤
The molding looks great. I think the thinner wood pieces to complete the panels would be best. They wouldn’t detract from the elegance of the molding. Can’t wait to see what you come with in the Marie Antoinette room. It sounds spectacular!
Thanks Pam 🥰
The moldings are lovely and the connecting pieces should be delicate.
Love the moulding! Perhaps a small "rope" type moulding to connect the others. I've seen small one's for doll house models. Instead of compromising the structure of the beams maybe create a "tray" ceiling? Or use false beams? I've seen them in the states made of actual paintable styrofoam type of material. I've seen them used even on the outside of a house! So they must be pretty sturdy. All of you do incredible work I'm mesmerized watching you!
Take the first band, cut the bottom off and use only the band that has the cross in it. That is so beautiful, especially when you enhanced the crosses. As always, whatever you do it will be magnificent!
You need a pencil line moulding to connect the corners
Love the corners piece, the large piece I think should go in the middle. Build a frame around the edge. But then who am I.😮
The smaller molding would be better I think. It’s looking so fantastic! Keep up the fabulous work!😊❤
Please use the smallest possible wood piece to connect the moldings . Not to get too heavy. Looking beautiful!
I love watching Terry work with the ytrim wood and any other fine details. He has such a good eye for what makes the room design work.
Maybe you can try lowering the medalion to just above center and outlining the panel with gold without using the bars. Could do a mock-up on one panel to see if you like it. 😊