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PLOT: Paul Atreides unites with Chani and the Fremen while seeking revenge against the conspirators who destroyed his family.
RELEASE DATE: March 1, 2024
GENRE: Action, Sci-Fi, Adventure
STARS: Timothée Chalamet, Zendaya
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....Meanwhile on Harkonnen HQ: Unit Lost Harvester Under Attack Unit Lost Unit Lost
Nostalgic memories from Dune 2000 game
WORMSIGN
... Harverster Lost
rabban was a noob :p
I 'member!
Let's give it up for the Ornithopter Pilot. He is the only one who killed any Fremen in this movie. Even in the final battle we didn't see a single Fremen die.
What about the one killed in Rabbans Ornithopter, or the ones burned by Feyd
Air is the fremen weakness
At 1:56 you can see a fremen killed. I think its the only instance which a Harkonnen kills a fremen in hand to hand combat
Sietch Tabr got melted
IIRC, in the book, there’s a scene in which the Fremen steal a small scouting ‘thopter, and then use it to take out a Sardaukar troop transport in a Kamakazi attack.
The sound of the mini gun from Omnithopter makes my neck tingle
It's less of a machine-gun and more an automatic flechette shotgun. such a specific choice for close-air-support.
@@pob_42 probably the rounds are light and small enough to not damage the machinery, and the fremen don't have heavy vehicles or shields, so it works well.
@@pob_42 Might be because constantly firing like a minigun would leave the shields vulnerable?
@@bigtabbyxdsmart guy
@@pob_42 I'd say more like a Metal Storm that they made work. You don't want the shield aperture open more then microseconds. Those are set bursts, not spray and pray.
The chuckle from Chani as she’s running is just peak cinema
My favourite clip of the whole film, living her best life.
@@nickhtk6285 love it because it’s a chuckle of relief and also a “haha gottem” which I imagine would be like how it feels. If your life were a near constant struggle, you’d find moments like that and chuckle
"Harkonnen, what color suit would you most prefer to wear in the parched, scorched dunes of Arrakis where your very own sweat, saliva, urine & even blood are regarded as nectar?" "I only take black as do all my brothers, please."
also put those big ass A/C on our head too
also, considering that black is the color that can absorb most heat... makes an interesting choice to say the least. power over drip is power over everything.
@@shapeshiftingpenhe who controls the Drip controls the universe!
Black is actually one of the better colors to wear in a desert environment when it’s layered over a lighter color. A lot of Bedouin wear black garbs over a layer of white so that the black can absorb the direct heat while a cooler tone of white is what touches the skin. Maybe the Harkonnen had layers? Regardless, it was quite obvious they weren’t cut out for Arrakis.
@@shapeshiftingpen Black also radiates the most heat, so it's quicker to cool down.
This movie made Lasguns seem pretty cool and terrifying. The rifles aren’t so much “pew-pew” but hard thuds as they punch holes thru people, meanwhile the Lasturret makes those creepy spine-tingling clicks while it flattens entire units of enemies like a giant shotgun.
I think the ornathopter mounted gun was a kinetic, no?
Yeah it seemed like it shot darts in a 3 square vertical stack (per shot) where each square has like 12 darts @henryc7548
@@henryc7548 I think it is a Mauler weapon so yeah, not a turret like Chasemcnab meant.
At least they are keeping the lasgun shield interaction true for the most part
Lasturret??
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="300">5:00</a> That shot with Channi running in exhilaration with the ornithopter crashing in the background was such a great shot.
It's ornithopter, not ornicopter
@@furycat28 Fixed 👍
On IMAX it was mindblowing
I really don't understand why people think these dune remakes are actually good movies :-s Apart from the CGI, they are just lame and dumb compared to the original low-budget theatre-like mini-series(they obviously try to copy lots of the settings and atmospheres directly from either the old movie or the old mini-series, rather than go back to the book and really re-envision it=> turning it into a good CGI + bad script knockoff of the material already available instead of something that would add something of value for people that liked the dune lore)... The last 5 seconds of this clip make the entire fight before it useless, stupid and only for dramatic 'look how cool we are' effect :-( The dudes that took out the harvester from a huge distannce with their lazer-gun-thingies could've just taken out the ornithoper too from the first shot it ever fired... And there was 0 need for the 'tough guys emerging from the sand close quarters combat' if they didn't have to place demolition charges manualy because their friends were just going to lazer-weapon-swipe the harvester anyway from hundreds of yards away... Any1 who thinks all of this brainless 'look how cool and tough we are' and 'look, pretty CGI, now shut up and don't think about it' movie is actually a quality adaptation of the Dune lore, should just go back to disney channel and netflix-originals stupid movies with some HBO softcore p*rn sprinkled on top 😕 Clearly, people keep getting dumber every year, just like the movies they watch, the jokes they make and anything else they do to entertain themselves with 😕
@@shatteredcore Why did she need his help to load the launcher if the ammunition was so small? She could easily do it herself and the launcher itself should have had room for at least a few rounds.
the sound design here is just amazing
I love how the Harkonnen trooper just casually walks over to Chani who is about to launch a missle at the ornithopter.
Probably because she was aiming at nothing and was waiting for the ornithopter to come around.
Or he didn't wanted to make noise
Right? Like it’s clear she is about to fire and he just casually heads towards her. Is running not possible with those suits lol
Slow walk is more menacing and dramatic.
its because he knows fremen = death
I love how even the designs of the spice harvesters reflect both houses. Harkonnen spice harvesters seem to prioritise volume of spice they can harvest reflecting their house greed whereas the atreidies harvesters seem to have more room for their pilots and people and have more drone tech for worm detection showing how the atreidies prioritise their people.
There shouldn‘t be a difference between them as the harkonnens left their harvesters for the atreides when they left arrakis. Duke Leto complains about this in the first part (and in the book) because they left mostly old and broken/sabotaged equipment.
@@Mahtriel the harvesters shown at the beginning of dune part one were different tho because of Harkonnen rule. We know that the Harkonens did sabotage the carriers however which remain the same. Atreides most likely brought their own harvesters, but the carriers and spice silos were practically ruined.
@@Mahtrielso you think the atreides, one of the great houses of the known universe, will just use that old shit the harkonnen left them and not already have some better tech on the way? and not have expected that? dude....there is no hint that any of the atreides harvesters couldn't be their own.
@@hazardeur You're forgetting about transport "costs" in this universe.
@@Einwetokdude..one of the major houses....brings their whole fleet there...to harvest spice for huge returns.....dont you think they can afford to transport or build some harvesters?
You know he's a keeper when your flirt helps you load your bazooka on the second date
The way that machine gun spreads, its projectiles shoots like a shot gun, it should be good against grouped up enemies but I think it also causes lots of freindly fire as well...I bet it also shot many Harkonnen ground troops as well...
At 2.16 you can see a dying Harkonen getting nailed with a Fremen. Although to be fair to the gunner, when those guys were within melee range of the Fremen, they are going to die either way.
In the opening scene of the first movie when the spice harvester shoots those explosive cluster munitions you definitely see Harkonnen soldiers die with the Fremen. They just don't seem to give a damn how many of their own guys get killed as long as more Fremen die with them.
@@hang_kentang6709 Harkonnens have the +4 Fratricide faction bonus.
They fire cluster tac missles at them in the opening of the first
The high five after shooting the aircraft + the pair reload really felt like a Helldivers moment
"I need a team reload!"
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<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="292">4:52</a> is the bit you’re looking for; the sound design in this film is phenomenal.
Beat I've ever heard. The ornithopters, the turret, the thumper, the voice. So many to mentioned
Even the Harkonnen spice harvester looks evil, like a tick. I hate those twitchy leg-miner-whatever things on the front at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="65">1:05</a>, they look like a dying spider. Note how it doesn't stop harvesting even as a battle breaks out around it - the spice is just that valuable. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="222">3:42</a> Same vibes as Mujahideen fighting an Mi-24 HIND with Stinger missiles
Probably where they got the inspiration. I'm more impressed with their handheld laser cannons though. Sure, that little MANPADS with rounds timed to penetrate shields is cool, but goddamn being able to carry what is effectively a massive lightsaber that extends hundreds of meters? AWESOME. And they said the Fremen had no industrial capacity or technical knowhow...
My Kung Fu SiFu did. He's American of afghan decent. Went for 3 years, then China for 5, then back at the end. In less than 6 months they turned on each other. He said screw ya'll, came back to Seattle and married his high school sweetheart. She waited for him.
My father said they looked alot like the Gathrim crabs from Dark Crystal an I now I can't unsee it lol
@@jakeg3733 they confiscated laguns an other weapons from the Harkonnens in the past and also from trading spice with smugglers for weapons but they also built their own with left over weapons of the harkonnens an others
the ornithopter crashing in the background of Chani running is majestic af
oh shit -Paul Atreides
I believe it's the only scene where I heard someone swearing in this movie.
@@asllen3310And I believe the only time you hear it in the first is also during a harvester scene, where Duke Leto says: Damn the Spice!
Profound. Really, what else is there to say
@@asllen3310Gurney yells "fuck!" At the scene where his harvester gets attacked by Fremen. It's hard to hear because of all the other stuff going on. I didn't notice it until my 3rd viewing.
@@asllen3310Paul said shit. Leto said damn. Gurney said fuck. The Atreides family are really rude apparently lol
One of the greatest movies ever made. A modern MASTERPIECE
Your comment really made me happy, because i have the same opinion as you
I watched it and preferred the 1st movie to this one. Flo and Zen did absolutely nothing of note. Zen just whined the entire movie, Flo was hyped up and felt like a letdown.
@realwordsoftruth I felt the same as you at the beginning, but somehow i didn't think about it anymore because dune part one and two are like one movie anyway, they are literally one book.
I saw this shit at Lincoln Square IMAX 11 times. Its going away tomorrow for good. 😢
I saw I in cinema. Don't get what's great about it.
her victory laugh at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="298">4:58</a> (corrected) was such a great touch. Man this movie was such a masterpiece on every level
bro the video is only 5:54 seconds long
@@danielhardman234no it’s 5:45 seconds long
Maybe he meant 4:56
I liked the movie but the fighting sucked, as is pointed out else where, only one fremen is seen being killed or injured in hand to hand combat with the Harkonens. I recall the sardokaur doing similarly poorly where chani killed several elite warriors will little effort or personal danger. Its like a new star wars movie where the faceless bad guys are just props for the protagonist to be shown off as a great fighter by stunting on them.
@@henryc7548 honestly it makes sense, it was alluded in the first movie by Duncan Idaho that the fremens fought like demons and could’ve killed Duncan plenty of times, and Duncan is considered one of the greatest fighters out there. I mean he took down a couple of saudaukers by himself before dying. So if even Duncan said the fremen were a force to be reckoned with then I believe him.
Me seeing the rat: "A Muad'Dib!" lol
I like that the 2 lasgun units wisely waited for the shielded thopter to be gone before cutting the harvester....no chance to hit a shield
Also won't reveal themselves and get shredded by the minigun
That might have been the scariest gun rifle fire I've ever seen in movies. The D-Day scene in Saving Private Ryan when people were getting off the U Boats was also extremely intimidating.
U boats are German submarines. The US troops came off landing craft, Higgins boats or LCA, LCVP.
@craigbenn8671 oops. Thank you for the correction. For some reason, I thought those were called U boats because when the landing pad came down, it was shaped in a U.
@@michaeljmobley U-boat is an english translation of U-Boot (german), a short form of "Unterseeboot", literally translates as "below the sea boat" from german.
@@baer0083 Learning is great! Thank you!
@@michaeljmobley glad you liked it. I enjoy learning and teaching also very much.
Cool scene. That Harkonnen Mauler autocannon was absolutely savage!
Watching this is theaters was otherworldly
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A desert planet, not a cloud in the sky. Constant, blinding sun reflecting off sand and rock. And not a pair of sunglasses to be seen on the whole planet.
What’s the point of paying big name actors if you can’t see them nerd
Yep, that matters if you are watching because of actors and not because of story@@ericwalker690
You think Fremen are turists? Ever seen a bedouin desert nomad wearing sunglasses?
The Harkonnens have them, actually
The hilarious irony of the Fremen. As with Jedi, bullet weapons are the solution to their antics. They don't have shields. And there's risk when using a laser that one or two might have a shield.
"God made arrakis to train the faithful" The deserts of Arrakis is one of the few places in the known universe where the typical fighting style of shields and hand-to-hand combat is not the law. With shields being impossible to use due to driving worms into a killing frenzy, the ability to do battle upon the rocks and sands of the planet allows a return to a more chaotic and free flowing time--where projectile weapons, lasguns, explosives, and all manners of killing methods may apply. In a way, this makes Arrakis the ultimate training ground--a place that breeds a people that exceeds the fighting capability of the ferocious Sardaukar
I wish they show what happens when a lasgun meets a shield in the next movie. A nuclear explosion would be cool to see, other than the stoneburner
@@johnernest5843 I think that wasn't so uncommon elsewhere in the Dune universe due to the Holtz shields being volitile against lasers.
@@LandersWorkshop It is definitely uncommon as the Holtzman shields volatility against lasers just led to lasguns going unused or only being used under very careful circumstances. That is because the benefits of shields outweighed the downsides as even if you are hit with a laser while using a shield, you'll at least take down your attacker with you in the resulting nuclear chain reaction but without the shield, you're completely vulnerable to lasguns and every other weapon as well.
??? I don't understand that. You said they dont have shields but then you said there's a risk using a laser because one or two may have shields??
Denis Villeneuve truly knows how to bring weight to Sci-Fi action that most likely otherwise would have seemed borderline fantastical. Yes, in concept, it is fantasy. But the way he utilizes sandscreens for breathtaking moments such as <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="143">2:23</a>, as well as cinematography and sound design just MADE for the spectacle of the Fremen's rebellion like <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="294">4:54</a>, all of this made the action of Dune: Part 2 feel as genuine a journey for them and us as the movie as a whole.
Best Space Sequel Film Ever
Bold comment seeing as Aliens and Empire Strikes Back exist
Aliens buddy Aliens
@@Umega101 Star wars isnt as good as dune but go off
Dune is the one and only film to properly capture how terrifying offensive laser weapons would be. They just keep cutting
The fremen should really paint their little breathing tubes a sand color lol
Damn everyone's suddenly an expert on year 10,192 dune fight tactics wow. Did it cross your minds that you should look it up if you're confused, seeing as its a complex equipment system fitted into a movie? Or would you rather David Attenborough in the background saying 'Here is a wild harkonnen not wearing a shield because XYZ....'
I love the detail of the sand snorkel being designed to be sleek and yet able to filter out sand from the air
Can we talk about the legend Harkonnen trooper at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="114">1:54</a> , one of the only Harkonnen in the both films to actually kill a Fedaykin in hand-to-hand. I mean he dies right after, but still.
Sooo much eye and ear candy, I’m going to get celluloid diabetes.
He fights like the mouse that gave him his name, quick and sharp.
The Harkonnen trooper should've exploded on the spot when Chani shot him. But heck it's a movie and wouldn't have looked that cool.
tbh after the last shot you see the missile slows down due to shield pushing it away, but it only explodes after hitting the metal frame, so my headcannon is that it's made to explode only after meeting some specific degree of resistance.
Arming distance
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="57">0:57</a> Using the harvester as part of the score is such a great touch. They did it with Gurney’s harvester too
man those handheld energy beam cannons are dope af
The sound design in Dune 2 did it again. That machine gun (is it really one?) sounded very specific (and very terrifying).
It's some kind of laser or plasma shotgun by the look of it.
@luker2693 I think it was kinetic, shoots a pattern of flechettes, maybe.
@@connorgventer6489 Yeah, you’re right about that. Thought it was another type of lasgun at first, but the projectiles move way too slow. My guess is that it’s plasma.
laser gunners: let us wait to steal the biggest kill
Their choice to shoot <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="132">2:12</a> from FPV of the gunner made it especially terrifying, like watching "Collateral Murder" footage. And the spread of the gun is so deadly. It felt so dehumanizing showing the violence from a distance, which I think is what made it feel more sinister. Seeing this in theaters gave me anxiety. Brilliant directing.
Two questions: 1. Why does everyone use swords and knives? Both sides have long range lasers and mini-guns. Are both peoples not technologically advanced enough to make shorter range versions of these weapons for use in close combat? 2. Since the Fremens had the means to destroy the Harkkonen spice harvester with those long-range lasers, why didn't they do that instead of first hiding ground troops under the sands and then mounting a ground assault? The Fremens' priority is to destroy the spice harvester, not to kill as many Harkkonen ground troops as possible (sacrificing their own troops in the process), and THEN destroying the spice harvester? Just seems weird to me.
1. Harkonnen also use laser guns, as seen throughout the whole movie, even in this scene. 2. Idk if you watched the first movie or this movie at all, but look up the opening scene of the first movie, where they try what you said. They shoot, expose themselves and die. I know watching and understanding stuff is hard, but please think about what you say, just for like 10 seconds.
This is why reading the books is so important to films like this.
@@HahsJeje Thank you. It's amazing how people lack even the simplest concepts of consequences for actions.
Give the book a read bro, all your answers about the lack of computers and the consequences of using lasers against shields or sending worms on a killing frenzy, use of projectile weapons by firemen and others in certain situations etc is all there for you.
from what i've heard, soldiers are often equipped with similar shields to the one the ornithopter uses, which are capable of protecting against fast projectiles (such as bullets) but which don't defend against slower moving weapons (like throwing knives, swords). The reason for why these soldiers are fighting with melee weapons might just be a matter of training (why train soldiers in weapons that they can't use), cost (why spend money on advanced weapons for a convoy that probably wont be attacked anyway?), etc. the reason for why they didn't use the ranged laser is because they then would've been exposed to the ornithopter in the middle of the desert with 0 cover. Furthermore, the laser can't attack the ornithopter due to its shield, as the shield, when combined with a laser, causes a massive detonation, which is not ideal
I love how Part Two feels paced by Chani and Paul's relationship. It subtly grows as Part Two moves along. By this point Chani has accepted Paul as a person but not yet as a Fremen. When Paul asks if she's okay and she says Yeah, it's such a simple indication of their relationship. Prologue-Chani would have probably been annoyed by Paul asking if she's okay like "I'm fine I can take care of myself." But the fact she's giving him the assurance he's asking for shows that their bond's foundation is established by this point and now it's the ultimate test of their teamwork attacking the Harvester.
The weapon used on the harvester in the end (The laser thing). Why isnt it used on something else? Seemes kinda powerful.
Lasguns in Dune can’t be used on shielded targets without causing a nuclear explosion. That’s why Humanity has gone back to using swords. The reason why shields aren’t used on Arrakis all the time is because they attract Worms and drive them into a killing frenzy.
@@Mister_Kourkoutas what about other projectile weapons? Why not a basic rifle M-16 or AK-47?
@@preshlock The Baron actually uses old fashioned artillery in the Harkonnen surprise attack on Arrakis in the book. As for general warfare in the Dune universe, projectiles and melee weapons moving beyond a certain speed are moving too fast to penetrate the shield. This is why swordsmen in Dune train to swing their weapons at just the right speed to slip past personal shields.
@@Mister_Kourkoutas But in Part one when Duncan Idaho escapes in a Ornicopter he is chased by a lasgun?
@@mattiasschilcher9145 Yes and everyone who read the book was cringing in fear at the recklessness of the Harkonnen gunners nearly turning Arrakeen into a radioactive pile of rubble!
My favorite scene in the movie. Also, can we take a moment to appreciate the engineering behind Dune
My favorite, too ❤❤❤
Love how fast the Fremen move when they fight
they kill the thing with a shield, then immediately just use lasers to slice up the harvester.
Well, imagine if the thing with a shield accidently flew in the trajectory of the lasers. Pretty sure nobody there wants to be nuked.
@@MrDibarathat was never said or explained in the movie
The reason they don’t use lazguns on the shielded thopters is because lazguns trigger a nuclear reaction when they make contact with a shield.
Take out the extremely deadly air support first from the only cover available? Yes. That was the point. Imagine what would happen to the totally exposed lasgun teams out in the open desert if they gave away their positions BEFORE the Harkonnen gunship was destroyed… The ornithopter homes right in and tears them to shreds.
@@Jakester1472 does everything in a movie need to be explaind now?
Crawling under it was crazy
taht is so cool, seeing the missile explode yet still being contained within the ornithopter's shield until it all collapses
The thumbnail makes it look like chani’s holding a bazooka camcorder 😅
The movement of the struts looks as if they did that at least partially as practical effect.
Great movie, great props and set design, but this annoyed me. There's no reason that the breather should be in black. It should be sand colored so that it can blend in better.
The climatic moment they sliced open their first harvester after all of their pain and sacrifices begs for a different track in Dunes 2 called (kiss the ring) specially in sec <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="135">2:15</a> !
Impressive... most impressive.
Was it just me, or did those dark black snorkels laid out in a pattern on the sand stick out like a sore thumb? Whats the point of having guys walking alongside the harvester if they cant even spot that?
Way go Paul and Chinai working together
so in this super scify future world they can not find a way to stop blades as they are wearing all that armor anyway?
What are you talking about? They have a way of stopping everything fast, like blades and bullets with shields. They don't use shields on the ground cause it attracts worm. But I know, movies are complicated if you are stupid.
@@HahsJeje There's a more specific answer: crysknives are extremely sharp.
I like how after going in to engage the Harkonnens hand to hand, losing several of their number, the Fremen then just whip out the lasers and vape the thing from a distance. And they didn't open with that move because..?
very good question! a major narrative flaw if u ask me
They tried that in the beginning of Dune 1, remember? The Harkonnen cluster missiles killed their gunners and the Fremen can’t easily replace the tech or the snipers. So they took out the Harkonnen response teams first, then sliced up the helpless harvester.
Because there’s a shielded gunship overhead and the Fremen are out in the open desert with absolutely no cover. The moment they give away their positions, the gunship would swoop in and shred them all with gunfire. It would be suicide. The Fremen were forced to ambush the Harkonnen harvester up close, clearing it out and then using the harvester itself as cover from the ornithopter. This gave the rocket team (Paul and Chani) the time and protection they needed to set up and reload for more shots in case the first shot missed or failed to get past the thopter’s shield. Which is what happened.
@@Gunnar001 Or worse one of them hits the shield with a laser and the whole area gets nuked into oblivion,
@@dragonearth5456 Still doesn't make sense why they couldn't sweep the laser at ground level, killing the infantry. Probably krippling the harvester too.
So... Why didn't they just shoot the collector first then just leave? They shot it from like 500 yards away. What were the guards with swords or even the airship going to do to stop that?
I think they were worried the airship would start targeting them. I think it would make sense to shoot the harvester from a fair and avoid the ground attack, but the lase gunners might have been sitting ducks after since the air ship is shielded and they might have been too exposed which is why they were probably hiding in sand and not actual cover. Maybe they needed to use the harvester as cover to take it out to avoid losing their lase gunners
Don't quite know much bout the story, but as someone who played dune 2000. They sure celebrate their victory over one harvester. Speaking of that...I don't think I ever heard of something like Devastator being used in movie. Wonder where that one came from.
Didn’t Chani say in the opening monologue of the first movie that the harvesters land during the night?
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Those were Atreides harvesters. These are Harkonnen
You are correct and it was a mistake, technically it should have been early morning and evenings because the mid day was too hot for humans to effectively move around in and not dehydrate immediately, that or spend way too much water on staying hydrated which was worth more than gold on this particular planet. It is one of many dumbed down nuggets (for what hollywood considers is an ignorant audience) that bite them in the back side later when they forget about it.
Spice production was low. So the Harkonnens were getting desperate.
The opening dialogue was off. How could spotter craft see worm sign approaching at night? Leto flies and inspects harvesting in the day. The rush is always to get in and out before worm attack.
It's cool they made door guns flechette launchers instead of firing conventional munitions
I still don't understand why you fremen risk their lives using close combat while they can just lasgun harvester down from the beginning instead.
because there is a slight risk of hitting the Ornitopter, which uses a shield, and in Dune universe shields and lasers don't go well together as they proc a nuclear level explosion (and to be clear, the explosion happens on both sides, both the shielded target and the laser source becomes nukes, it's not like they can snipe it from the distance and enjoy the free destruction) also, Fremen are just that kind of people, destroying the harvester is not enough, they also want to kill all of them, up and personal
Ok, sorry, but why didn't they use lasers from the start? I know they are not supposed to hit shields, but they can just swipe everything at ground level. Only the Ornithopters had shields.
Probably because the ornithopter would've started targeting them which is why i assumed they stayed hidden. Also i dont think the Freman have enough guns to go around to fight the unshielded enemies. I did wonder why the Harkonnen didn't have guns on them since Freman don't use shields
Almost sounds like an A10
Pretty stupid if they couldnt see the sand snorkels in the path of the crawler. Must have been hot as hell being and hard to breath underground, even if it was just a meter or two.
I give it some credit bc they have some big ass helmets which seem to be tinted so it could be that it's not great for vision
yeah fun cinematic scene but dumb from the snorkles right in their way perspective and the perspective that they could have just shot the crawler with lasers without killing all the guards etc.
@@grantwithers Then they'd be hunted down by the airborne escort though.
@@LandersWorkshop maybe, tho maybe there is an easier way to take down the airborne escort than this ramshackle ambush where half of them are killed and the others are nearly killed.
@@unavela Not sure if the helmets had any HUD or optics, IF they did that would kinda change things. Hard telling though.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="209">3:29</a> God...DAAAAAMMMMNNNN😮🔥🔥🔥🔥😎😎
This scene surprised me when I watched this in theaters
Freakin great movie and this scene was one of my favs.
This movie got lasers right and it looks terrifying.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="104">1:44</a> how close the wheels were to their heads stresses me out
If just simple metal blades are the "weapon of choice" in Christopher Walken's universe (couldn't resist), why don't they wear like... plate armor or chain mail or something resistant to that? Hard to believe they can create kinetic barrier technology but not simple kevlar suits.
why don't the soldiers on the ground have the same sort of projectile weapons as the ones in the "helicopter"? Whatever the shield rules in Dune are there has to be a more effective strategy than arming troops with swords.
The Harkonnens did have lasguns, they likely were just got off guard by the ambush.
I think the weapon on the ornithopter is too bulky to be carried by a soldier. In the books you couldn’t use shield in the desert as they get worms really mad.
@@RealHogweed alright. I'm not trying to be overall critical because I really enjoyed the movie. But it seems like a really convoluted way to not have projectile weapons. Why would a shield protect against a rifle and not a sword?
They say in the movie only a slow blade penetrates the shield, which actually does make sense as if you’re wearing a shield you’ll still wanna be able to pick things up, etc.
@@preshlock it’s just how shields work in the dune universe, they stop only fast moving things. The central theme of the books is humanity fulfilling its potential through mind and body refinement. One of the driving factors of this development was the invention of the shields, which rendered laser weapons impractical and forced a regression to hand to hand combat. The other factor is the rejection of thinking machines.
It's fantastic what they did in terms of visual and sound in this film. Unfortunately, the music wasn't that good. And the story is a vacuum of space compared to the original story.
im just wondering fremen seems prefrably using close quarter battle since the shield is the reason while they also have long range laser gun, lets say its an insurgency operation, why dont use the laser since begining? especially since the shield is useless and attract worm, why dont just take down the helicopter first then goes for the harvester by using their laser and anti air shield penetrating bazooka, and you dont have to deal with the infantry
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="250">4:10</a> great acting by zendeya here….i can tell this is when the writing strike happened
This fight scene makes absolutely no sense. The spice harvesters don’t have shields and the fremen have laser rifles that can destroy the harvesters with ease. Why did you attack the guys on the ground and needlessly lost good soldiers? They could of just blown up the harvester and used the rocket to take down the dragon fly thing from a distance. The soldiers who survive the blast would of been stranded in worm territory and would of either died from the elements or worms.
Is the launcher munition magnetic? I don't see any rocket propellant and the shield would've negated any momentum right?
How tf did the fremen know where the harvester would even land now that i think about it. The entire planet and they just knew?
"It's only a model."
They should have captured the harvester instead of destroying it. Looks like a very expensive piece of machinery which could have been used after.
Used for what? The fremen are against the spice harvest.
Saw the sequence with the thopter circling the harvester, making it hard for the fremen infantry near/under the machine to operate. They kill the guards up close, then the thopter and then from hundreds of meters away, laser down the harvester. Why didn't they start with lasering down the harvester in seconds to begin with, without losing all those fremen to the mini gun thingy mounted on the thopter?
If only they could figure out how to make knife proof armor in the distant future like we have now...
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="76">1:16</a> there's something about this shot that really gets to me
It's a gigantic bug!
@@yujx0401 The shot also looks like there's some kind of heatwave going on
It isn't the same things watch on here and on IMAX, in IMAX you know that you are in a cinema.
I don't understand what's going on here. Why didn't fremen immideately use laser guns on harvester like on <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="308">5:08</a>? What was the point of meelee attack on harvester and guards? Why doesn't huge harvester and marching troops attract sandworms in a world where you even have to walk without rhythm?
"Why didn't fremen immideately use laser guns on harvester like on 5:08?" Because that would have been suicidal, as the thopter could then have picked them off at will. "Why doesn't huge harvester and marching troops attract sandworms in a world where you even have to walk without rhythm?" They will, but it takes time for a worm to travel to a harvester location, hence the need for spotters in thopters to detect wormsign and call in the carry-all to remove the harvester at the last moment.
@@whiteknightcat "Because that would have been suicidal, as the thopter could then have picked them off at will." - This doesn't make any sense. Thopter has actually killed a lot of them when they were meeleing the harvester. If they straight shot the lasgun and run casualties could've been at all avoided or maxed at lasgun crew. Thopter could've been picked out from safer distance. None of that explains why they had to ambush and engage harvester up close.
I've never seen anything like Denis Villeneuve's Dune series..
A desert mouse would not be active on the surface during daylight.
This plan needed work. Why have the anti air team around the harvester? Correct me if I am wrong but I think having the first team that is attacking the ground guards and drawing out the Ornithopter would be better to stick to cover during the fight and have the teams on the hill take on the Ornithopter while it was focused on first team then take out the harvester. Is there a lore reason for what happened here?
This is the reason why, my friends, i've seen it 7 times on IMAX ahhahahahahahah
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="280">4:40</a> In his defense, I would be saying a lot worse, in fact, I don’t think I would stop even after the battle is done
So why weren't the samd worms triggered from all that vibration? 🤔
how did the RPG take out the helicopter when Timothee ran if at first it couldn't
those harkonens could of just flew in front or behind and the movie would have ended very shortly lmao
They were taking cover behind a large pillar there’s no angle where the ornithopter could shoot them without being literally onto of them
A landing 50 meters closer and the Dune saga would have ended...
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="3">0:03</a> Scrat? Is that you?
Did the Harkonnen ever figure out that “shields” (such as theirs) attracted pissed-off sandworms?
That's a lot of dead Fremen for one harvester. Also, since neither the Harkonnen or the Fremen use shields, due to not wanting to attract sandworms, why isn't everyone packing a projectile weapon?
The Fremen crysknives are not weak, they punch through almost anything. I suspect that normal projectile weapons might not be as effective against their modern armour as the knives are. After all, those knives are made from sandworm teeth and those things eat almost anything, including harvesters. Won't be surprised if those knives could cut through the harvester itself since they are literally the same thing sandworms use to chew on harvesters. Don't forget that on Dune, the Fremen had to use spring loaded Maula pistols that fired poison darts. That does not sound like it's going to be very effective at all against even plastic armour. 01:49 a Harkonnen using a projectile rifle but didn't hit much. I suspect his suit was hindering him.
@@danielc2701Armor piercing bullets will have no trouble eating through even the strongest armor so I dont really see a reason for the Harkonnen to not use guns against the Fremen.
@@SkvelaPolevka "Armor piercing" bullets is a misnomer, all our bullets these days are cupro-nickel, which by the standards of the 18th century are all naturally "armour piercing" but they still get stopped by modern day body armour. The only "line" after there is a difference in AP vs Ball munitions is the 0.5 cal SLAP. Before that, there isn't really much difference between "armour piercing" and normal ammunition. The reason there is only a dividing line there is because those are meant for use against vehicles. Anyway, at 01:49, you see a Harkonnen using a rifle against the Fremen but he's moving surprisingly slow. I suspect his stillsuit is getting in the way of his weapons handling. Edit: Now that I replayed that in slow mo, I found that there WERE guns in play, the Harkonnen was not moving slow because of his suit, someone off screen shot him in the faceplate, you can see the impact and smoke from the round before he got stabbed later. He could not see.
I didnt know fremen had prism tanks
its the nights watch vs the free folk.
That SAM launcher sure looks impractical, it has a big body and the ammo is small, thin and flat. Atleast 10 can be loaded in the launcher. But it still needs reloading after each shot? The ammo is also not guided? No lock-on function? Frank Herbert failed to predict futuristic technology.