Nikon Z mount Tele Converters VS Nikon 200-500mm & Nikon 500mm.
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Hey Everyone !
In this video we take a look at the Nikon Z mount tele converters
the 1.4x and the 2x Z mount TC
both attached to the Nikon Z 70-200mm F2.8S
we will compare the 70-200mm f2.8 set up against the Nikon 200-500mm F5.6 and the Nikon 500mm F5.6 PF
we look at size, build quality and Image quality,
The image quality comparisons start at
09:07 200-500 vs 1.4x TC on 70-200
14:48 200-500 vs 2x TC on 70-200
18:00 500mm F5.6 Pf vs 2x TC on 70-200
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I hope you fine this video useful !
Any equations let me know in the comments
As always thank you so much for watching
#Nikon #TeleConverter #Nikon200500
Hey Everyone ! This was a really important video for me because this is a big choice for my photography going forward. So hopefully this video also helps those of that are also struggling to decide on the best long lens set up for your Z camera ! What would you choose out of these three options??? let me know As always thanks so much for watching !
Thank you for these great comparisons. They are so helpful. Probably not the answer you are looking for, but I'm choosing to wait for the Z mount 100-400mm before making a decision. My new 24-200mm will tide me over for the time being.
I’m expecting everything to change when the 100-400 and the 200-600 launch !
Hi! Thanks for your detailed match-up of these lenses. It raised one question in my mind about the 70-200. Z mount lenses are supposed to be extremely sharp but in your test, it seems on par with the 200-500 and below the 500mm prime. Is it due to the lens itself or do the teleconverters affect the optical performance? I am looking at the 85mm 1.8s and 50mm or the 70-200mm for studio work, shooting furniture. The zoom offers me flexibility but is it a good performer for my intended use? Thanks for your help.
Ricci Talks hopefully this summer ?
@@prometheuslg it is the Tele converters the 70-200 on its own is the sharpest this test waste about the Tele converter than the lens it self
That 200-500 sure holds it's own. I have grown to love mine and it's a lot better than the 3rd party examples I've shopped around.
The image quality is great for the price, i've just kind of grown to hate the size and weight of it
Excellent! These are exactly some of the "choice" scenarios I've been thinking about, and so it's great to see your results. Thank you, Ricci!
Love your work Ricci! One of my favourite KZheadrs. I appreciate your humility.
Great comparison. Thanks for all the excellent content you put out. Any time I need some Nikon info you and Hudson Henry are my go-to guys.
Another great video Ricci, after watching I went with the 2 teleconverters to go with my Z 70-200mm but also bought the 500mm f5.6 pf for that extra reach. Very happy with the set ups.
Incredibly useful comparisons - thank you.
Thanks a lot !
You have overwhelming thanks by folks with this video. I join the positive crowd! Thanks for comparisons that are relevant to me. Thanks for your time and effort. I’m so glad to learn from an intelligent, experienced and personable teacher. I’ve found all your videos helpful as well as entertaining. I’d be thrilled if you continue to ignore the occasional negative comment and remain an important part of the Nikon learning community! Best always, Ricci.
The spec of dust landing on the barrel of the rear element on the left side of teleconverter at @1:16 nailed it. Eagle has landed...
I thought that was a super fine pixel level mouse pointer
Thank you for this really great comparison and all the other that I watched so far! I will wait for the 200-600 and will use my 3rd party lense with FTZ. Greetings from South Germany ;-)
Very useful comparison (as always!) I think we are all waiting for the Nikon 100-400mm & 200-600MM Z lenses to finally appear!
Ok here at the intro! Lets go been waiting for this!
Thanks for this! You answered literally all of my questions on every variation I was curious about. Now I'm gonna try to hold off and see how the Z 100-400 looks before I start eyeing the PF too closely haha
Yes a very useful comparison Ricci exactly the sort of information we need about the lens to make a choice. Thanks
Great review. I have the 200-500 and use it for birds and airshows. Recently had a heart condition(recovering) so I haven't been able to lug around my big mindshift pack with 3 big lenses (about 15 lbs). I need to stop carrying all of that gear. I think the 2x tc will work nicely on the z70-200 and is about 2 lbs lighter than the 200-500 setup. So just two lenses (24-70 and 70-200 with 2x tc ) should be much more manageable. With topaz sharpen in post, all should be tack sharp.
This is the style of comparison review that we don't see enough of; the pros and cons of each clearly set out with the viewer being better equipped to make their decision. Contrast with the all too common style of "this one is the clear winner and this one is complete rubbish, it will make you a third class photographer" - totally ignoring use case / circumstances and typically coming from people whose photos (if they ever get out of the studio long enough to actually *take* any) leave a lot to be desired. Thank you Ricci!
Good stuff. I think it really shows how strong the 2.0 telecoverter is.
I own the Nikon 200-500 5.6 and it's an amazing lens, also the sigma 70-200 2.8 with the FTZ, both of them are pretty sharp, I don't have any problem to carry on two big lenses and two bodies in my backpack. Great video.
Great video. It was nice to see the 200-500 do so well. I’d like to see the 200-500 v 500 PF comparison
Nice review! I recently picked up the 500pf to us with my z6 and d810. I also got the fringer Nikon -> Fuji adapter to try out my Nikon lenses on some Fuji bodies I have.
Thanks a lot! I had been looking forward to this video
Thank you for the work you put in this and all your videos.
Great test as always!! Hope they release a 600 pf for the Z-mount, it would be the perfect combo!
Another brilliant video a real tour de force
You have given me a great deal to think about. Your review is full of terrific details. Thank you very much. 😎👍📸
Another extremely useful video. Ricci, you did a great video on the Z lens roadmap a year ago. Have you heard any update on when the 100-400mm is likely to be shipping to the UK? Thanks
Many thanks for this video expecting by all of us. Overall, the couple Z70-200 + Z2x looks quiet appealing if we take into account flexibility of focal length.
Good video, thanks for making this as always. It makes me even more interested to see the 70-200+2x comparing to the upcoming Z 100-400.
If you can live with the variable aperture - the new Z 100-400 will out-perform. I had a TC20EMkIII on a 70-200/2.8 VR II - the combo didn't like bright highlights - got blooming on a D700. The Z TC x2 will be better but still a compromise too far, IMO. I suspect the Z TC x1.4 is going to give far better results.
Thanks for your time and expertise. I recently purchased the Z 70-200 f2.8 and am in the process of deciding which teleconverter to get. Your video comparisons have really helped me. I'm leaning towards the 1.4. Thanks again for such great videos.
I meant the Z 70-200.
I've been using the 200-500 on my D500 for a long time now and am more than happy with it. I don't often use the 1.4TC, but you can still get sharp pictures hand held when it's fitted.
Awesome presentation. EXACTLY what I was looking for.
Great video and comparisons as always, the 2X TC performs better than I expected which bodes well for how it will perform with the other long lenses when they end up coming out. Also makes me even more excited to see the 200-600, if that is gonna outperform the F mounts as well as the rest of the Z lenses have been then that should make for some interesting comparisons as well
The 500mm 5,6 glued to my d850,unbeatable combo,with the 70/200 with or without a 2x tc a close second on the Z7.I hated the 200-500 but that’s just me.Great comparative video.
Very useful comparison. I’d love to know how the 24-200mm Z lens stacks up in comparison as a much cheaper alternative to all the lens that you featured.
Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks very much!
thanks for this comparrisons!
I have this lens on pre order, used the F version for years, looking forward to your review.
No talk of light wavelengths, nanometers and associated laboratory bollocks. Informative and to the point. Well done. Thanks.
Very helpful comparison. Thanks.
Excelent and usefull work. Congrats.
I was waiting this video before taking my final decision... very happy to have waited! Those Tc are very good for teleconverter... but still not as good as real lenses... I will wait the next lenses before buying (24-105 and the 100-400)... thanks for your good work;)
The takeaway from your videos is you are not trying to sell me anything, and I respect that. Everything the you have suggested in your videos have pan out when I applied it to my photography. So thanks again.
You always bring very accurate information that I use to decide on my upgrades. I have the Z6 with 299-500mm f5.6 and super sharp for what I do. Wow I can’t imagine the 500mm f5.6 prime wow. Anyhow, thank you 🙏 for your videos. Keep them coming 👍👍👍
Great to hear!
Nice video, very surprisingly I've had a great experience with the 50-250z on my Z7. Its focal length is a great 375mm finding really sharp images even compared to the 70-200 with the 1.4. A lot cheaper too!
Excellent information, analysis, and presentation.
Thanks for your input. I recently shot some waterfowl with the 200-500 on my Z7 with a 2x teleconverter and the FTZ, which made the lens almost too long. A monopod really helped and I got more than respectable photos. I was considering the 70-200 and the 2x but now it doesn't seem to be much of a gain for upwards of $3G. I have 4 native Z lenses, 14-30, 24-70, 50 and 85 which do 90% of what I want. I think you just saved me a lot of money. It would be great if Nikon came out with a native 70-200 F4 for a fraction of the price of the 2.8.
Just purchased the Z6ii , hoping to get out soon with the Sigma 150/600 (s) FTZ mount
I have the 70-200mm f2.8 S lens for the Z system and the OG Z6. After watching this, I sold my 200-500 f5.6 and purchased the 2.0x tele, not because I think it is “better” but because it is excellent quality for the low weight. I will be purchasing the 200-600 S lens when it comes out, and for the really long shots I will use that, but for the times I want a light weight and excellent reach i will use the 70-200mm with the 2X tele.
Very interesting as I just bought the Z7ii and I’m trying to prioritize my lens purchases.
Thanks for the video. Always nice to watch and straight forward information. I know no one can predict the future, so it's Nikons call to give us some release dates for the 200-600 and longer primes. Trying to sell off f-mount lenses adopted to z-bodies can backfire as well. If they would at least release the 200-600 quickly it could help to convince more people to switch over to the Z-system. I'm using a sigma 60-600 via ftz and it's okay. But the new native lenses are just better in every aspect.
very helpful!
Thanks a lot for your work. I wait for the Z 100-400 to replace my 80-400. The Z 70-200/TC 2.0 is not as good as i had hoped.
Good job. Thank you for the useful performance comparisons. Seeing the performance of the f-mount 500mm pf and ftz combo helps greatly when trying to decide to spend that much for the lens. Another thing that would be useful to know: weight and volume comparisons of the different setups. For example, if I'm packing for a day of wildlife photography, I would bring along the 500 pf. But if I'm going on an extended trip where I'll be expecting highly varied conditions and everything from landscape to wildlife, and the size and weight of my kit is limited, am I better off with the the teleconverter options? One other comparison to this same end would be teleconverter performance of the more affordable, multi-purpose z 24-200mm vs. the z 70-200. In other words, is the combo of the former and one or two teleconverters worth the reduction in cost, weight, and volume for the discerning photographer?
That spec of dust landing on the lens at 1:17 was super cute!!
Very useful comparison! Thank you for this! I have both the 200-500 and 500 PF - both fantastic on my Z6. The 500 PF almost never comes off my camera - optical performance and AF in a lightweight package is amazing - it might be the perfect run-and-gun wildlife lens. Even satisfactory with the 1.7x converter, when I need extra reach. On the other hand, the 200-500 was a great performer on safari, where backing off the focal length was useful with big subjects. All this said, I am looking forward to native Z mount telephotos so I can eventually ditch the FTZ. From what I see here, the Z 70-200 looks great, but not really a replacement for what I currently use. Looking forward to future developments in the Z mount tele department. Thanks again for the balanced and informative review!
I'm px'ing my AF-P 70-300 for a 2nd hand 200-500 tomorrow - both lenses are bargains. That 500PF is proving to be extremely popular on the Z9. The Z 400/2.8 TC despite the cost will sell extremely well but is well beyond my pay grade!
Wow, you answered all my questions! I just ordered a z7ii after years of DSLR in order to go lighter. I was looking at possibility of z 70-200 with a 2X. However, I already have a 200-500. I'm going on safari and debated about hauling it around. Your video may have saved me some money, and I'll probably now take it. It seems there is always a compromise when it comes to lenses!
Thanks a lot for this video, really shows how great the 200-500 can be for the price. I have my sigma 150-600 contemporary at the moment that I plan to switch for something weather-sealed. I personally really like zoom when walking around, so I will look for a 200-500, or wait for the 200-600 Z lens (whenever that might come :D )
Very nice review of the lens option Ricci :-)
Great video! Thank you!
This was great thank you
love you thoughts on all this. the 200-500 is easily the best way to extend the holy trinity of constant aperture lenses beyond 200mm and it's insanely sharp and cheap and practical too. but i'd still claim the 70-200 as my desert island lens with or without teles.
Brilliant real world comparison.
I have the 200-500. It’s great but I rarerly use it because it’s almost too big to fit into my bag. So one day , when it is realesed, I will probably buy a 70-200/4 Z lens and a 2 times converter. But first, I have to save up to that Z camera... Have a d750 now. Huge thanks, Ricci. I really like your videos. They really make me wanna be a lottery winner.
Great review and comparison. I happen to have all three lenses and plan to but at least the Z-mount TC1.4. I do have the TC14EIII for the F-mount lenses. Your review will help guide which to carry on a given day out. I really like the 70-200 f/2.8S because it lets me focus closer, especially with a Canon 500D closeup lens. The 200-500 is great when at a wildlife area or refuge where the subjects are at different distances while the sharpness of the 500 PF and lighter weight are helpful. I can see the 200-500 being my tripod lens, while I can carry the other two on my Cotton Carrier vest. I will add that the detail from the 500PF with the TC14EIII is amazing even on a D3500, though I mostly shoot with a D750 and Z6. I got a good perspective on all three lenses from your review. Thank you!
Hey Ricci, I just got my new Nikon WR-R11b remote. It’s much bigger than the older model, and unfortunately it doesn’t fit very well with my ReallyRightStuff L-bracket. I have to extend the L-side quite a bit in order for it to fit.
Very helpful video. I've been thinking of buying that expensive Z TC but never really likes TCs. The 200-500mm is great value. I may have had a bad copy of the 500mm pf but I found it a little soft compared to my 600mm f4. I've just ordered the 2x TC...
I have the 500pf and the 600f4 I would say the 500pf is a little softer but only a tiny amount which is fair considering the price of the 600 f4 s
If only we had some info on the upcoming 100-400Z..... looking forward to that lens so much!
Indeed so! But, even if Nikon absolutely nails it with the 100-400, let's not forget all you can do with the 70-200 f2.8. I think that lens with the 2.0 tc is a fantastic combo! But then again.. what if the 100-400 works flawlessly with the TC.. :D
Imagine a 100-400 working great with a 2x tc That 200-800 looking good !
Really useful video, just what I have been waiting for. When comparing the 70-200 with the TC 2.0 against the 200-500, if you stopped down from f5.6, do you think the difference between them would have narrowed further. It appeared to when using the TC 1.4 I just sold my 200-500 so I could get a 70-200 plus the TC 2.0 so I'm hoping I made the right call.
Great video Ricci, what did the 200-500 look like in comparison to the 70-200 when they were both stopped down to f/8? All of the 200-500 shots were wide open so I wondered if things sharpened up even more at f/8.
They still looked identical and I never stop the 200-500 down so decided not to include this in the video.
Very useful video, thanks.
Hi Ricci, can we use teleconverter with Z9 and Nikon F mount lenses like 70-200 FL, 200-500 mm? If yes, which TC, Z mount TC or F mount TC with FTZ II adaptor? How to do the attachment?
That's an EXCELLENT ! test and comparison except that, as I own the 200-500, I would liked to see the 200-500 with the 500 side by side... In any case you are amazing and thank you for your work for us!...
Well I just ordered both (minus the tele), 70-200 2.8 S and the F 200-500 🥳 Current sales & promos were bananas so I couldn't pass them up 🙂 So my Z glass is all in place from 20mm through 200, planning to add an Expeed7 body in 2023, and I'll plan for the Z 200-600 in the next couple years. Thanks so much for your helpful & informative content!
How do the older Nikon teleconverters work with the Z 6 II with 200-500mm?
Thank you for comparison. I have both the 70-200 and the 200-500 (both f-mount). I love the 200-500 but it is very heavy to carry around. I just hope Nikon can get their speed up and release the 100-400mm. I am first in line for that lens!
The 100-400 looks really promising
Very Very useful comparison. Actually 70-200 is the most versatile of the three (with and without 2X TC). Moreover, using DX mode, it can go up to 600 mm, though compromising a little megapixel.
very useful test thank you very much
Very good video. Helps me a lot with my purchase decision. Thank you very much. Greetings from Germany.
Great !! well done , thanks...
Awesome video as usual - a useful set of comparisons for the many people who might be making this choice. You did this comparison using the Z 7II, right? What about someone with a lower-MP camera, like the Z 6(II)? Or even DX?
Some of the tests are taken on a Z7 some on a Z7ii I don’t see the results changing much on a z6 but basically a Z6 would be softer in every regard so the difference between the lenses might be less noticeable On a DX like a Z50 the results would be similar just with the 1.5x crop applied so even more zoom
@@RicciTalks this was what I was looking for. I will hang on to my Z50, next to my Z6 II. Going for the Z 70-200 with the teleconverters will give me a great range. Thanks for all your video’s.
Thank you very much for this video. No I know why I love my 200-500mm Zoom on my Z6 II and my D500 so much. But as I find myself mostly photographing at 500mm with it maybe it*s worth thinking about bying the 500mm PF lens as it is lighter and better in image quality. Go on with your great content.
Thanks a lot !
Ordered my z 2x teleconverter in October 2020. One day, my love will come....until then, it’s me and the 200-500!
Thank´s for this comparison, very useful :-) I have the old version of 600/4, VR and it´s about the same price as the 500/5,6. Have you ever compared these two or heard about any tests?
Sadly not Iv only used the newer 600mm f4 FL But one things for sure the size and weight difference is huge
Great video! Just found it as I'm deciding on pretty much exactly what you covered! One quick question. I shoot with a Z6II since the resolution is lower than the Z7 or Z7II will optical differences be between the 200-500 and the 500 PF be noticeable? Or am I starting to split hairs and fall into pixel peeping? Lol
I would say the difference would be less noticeable but there would still be some difference the 500pf would offer better feather detail ect
Thanks, Ricci! I’ve never owned the 200-500, but it looks like a great value. I’m trying to decide whether to hold onto my D850 for use with my 500 PF and 600 f/4E or just sell it. I still have my 6&7 and the new mark II versions as well (and the 70-200 + TCs). As a seasoned Nikon veteran, are you happy with long glass on the Z6/7 II’s? Anything to really miss AF-wise in parting with the D850? Thanks for your opinion on this.
I use my 600 f4E and my 500mm PF on my Z7 and Z7ii and Iv not wanted to go back to D850. Iv had the same conversation with lots of people and it mainly seems to be down to feeling at home with the D850 af system once you really get to know the af system of the Z it seems people really embrace it and move on from their DSLR
Love your videos This is exactly the video I was after Picked up my z6ii and I was amazed by the speed and quality with my f mount 70-200 and the 200-500 I have an f mount 2x tc but the drop off in speed and quality is not worth it in my opinion I have used the 500 once from a friend way out of my budget Loving my z gear you and Henry Hudson are the best Channels
Thank you for watching!
Thank you for this useful video. Right now the Z tele converters can only be used on the Z 70-200 S. Going forward, will they be compatible with other Z lenses?
I would hope so
Great video. I wonder if you can make comparison between Nikon 200-500 and F mount 70-200/2.8 with TC. As I have the 'old' 70-200 lens (first gen) and thinking of Z 70-200 is still too expensive to buy this year. Or you could just reply your thought here. Thanks.
I would say the 200-500 would be better than the older f-mount Tc as that does reduce sharpness more than the Z mount TC does. So a 200-500 should be an improvement from what Iv seen but obviously Iv not fully tested that set up side by side
Thanks Ricci. Can you show us the spherical abberations of these combinations? I have the 70-200 zmount (+1.4tc and also the 300mm PF with a 1.4x tc III) and I think the spherical abberations are very distracting. You can easily see these errors if you photograph a tree and look at the out of focus branches. They look double or ghosting. Once you've seen it, its hard to unsee. It is visible in many lenses. Some are better and some are worse.
How do you like your 1.4 tc for z camera?
@@KarenVaisman1 it's not a great combination. Unfortunately.
Thanks great video
the new 2x teleconverter is amazing and better as the old f mount af and af-s versions :DDD
Hi Ricci, great comparison. Request you to add 300 MM PF F4 with 1.4 TC-III to this comparison on Z7 2 with & without APSC mode 🙏🏻
Awesome video, however have you used a Nikkor 1.7 converter with a Nikon 200-500mm on a z7ii ??
Exactly what i needed! What are your suggestions if i would choose between sigma 70-200mm f2.8 + teleconverter OR the 200-500mm f5.6?
I sold my 200-500mm for the 500mm PF. Whilst I certainly miss the flexibility of the zoom on occasions, I have absolutely no regrets. The compactness and (comparative) light weight of the 500mm PF (relative to the 200-500mm zoom and 500mm f/4) mean both that I carry it more often and also that it is more manageable 'in the field' (which in turn means that I can get shots which I would not get with a larger, more unwieldly lens). The 500mm PF produces superb results on both my D850 and Z6 (with FTZ). So I don't think I would ever feel that a 70-200mm + 2x converter would be a substitute for me. However, since I normally carry a 70-200mm f/2.8 (E FL), the possibility of also carrying a teleconverter to handle the cases where the 500mm is a bit too long is certainly interesting. For the moment, though, I am not going to purchase the Z 70-200mm f/2.8, both because I still carry a D850 and because the F-mount lens does a great job on the Z6.
0:34 That counting down the seconds of your exposure. Is that something only the Z7ii can do? Or is there a trick for my Z7 ?
Interesting comparison. Thanks a lot. What about the 180-400 that included a TCx1,4 ? Did you already test it on a Z Mount camera ?
If you can get ahold of the latest 80-400 on the Z6II and Z7II for a comparison, especially for BIF, that would be awesome.
The 80-400 for birds was very quickly replaced by the 200-500. The 200-500 offers longer and it’s sharper The 80-400 has an advantage when you are close up to ur subjects with the ability to pull out to 80mm but the 200-500 has always been my choice over the 80-400
@@RicciTalks All the same, looking for this lens for portability and lighter weight for Airshows and such. At 57 years old. Such considerations are paramount as the years continue.
I sold the 200-500 when I sold all mt F lenses and DSL`r to buy into the Z series....I have the Z6, z16-24/2.8,z24-70/4,z70-200/2.8+TCx2 so this is a particularly great video for me. Many thanks Ricci! The TCx2 was a stop gap as I'm waiting for a native long focus. Anything as soon as the 200-500 is MINE , a z500mm or the 600mm will be quite exciting...but it all depends on the costing of course.
I was really pleased to see how well the z70-200 at 400mm compared to the 500mm prime! A potential benefit, for me, is that undoubtedly the TCx2 will be useable on a test to be released long zoom or prime, and in that case, I'm very confident that I'll get incredible exposures if I'm using it/them with that doubler! bring them own!! Thanks again Ricci
Yeh I think for a lot of people there are going to be some really good long lenses for Z mount soon with lots of options to choose from when you include the T.C
hi ricci, thank you for all the videos!!! im interested on motorsports racing and i have a z6 with 70-200 tamron G2... what is the best route going forward? getting a d500? 200-500mm f5.6? or a teleconverter and 70-200z lens? beacuae if i use the tamron i have to use ftz adapter and teleconverter.... please send me your thoughts...thank you