Nikon 600PF - First Look Field Review! (PLUS comparisons with the 180-600, 500PF, 800PF and more!)
Surprise! The Nikon 600PF Is Here!
Nikon just released their new 600mm PF VR S series lens, exclusively for the Nikon Z mount! I was fortunate enough to spend some time with the lens prior to today's announcement and can't wait to share what I've discovered (I was only one of two KZheadrs in the US to have access to it)!
Find out why you're gonna want THIS lens to be your new hiking buddy!!
In the video below, we'll answer all your burning Nikon 600PF questions:
How much does the 600PF cost?
How sharp is the 600PF?
How fast is the AF on the 600mm PF?
Is Nikon's 600mm PF weather-sealed?
How's the VR?
How much does it weigh?
How big is the 600PF?
Is F/6.3 a deal breaker?
PLUS - lots of comparisons to other popular lenses like the 180-600mm, 500PF, 800PF, and more. Oh, and I can't wait to share the sample photos too!
Of course, we'll also tackle the question on everyone's mind:
"Why get the 600PF when the 180-600mm gets you to 600 and F/6.3 for far less money?"
Check out the video and be the first to get the scoop!
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I will never complain about more options! I'm really impressed with how well Nikon has fleshed out the Z-mount. It feels like just yesterday we were all complaining about their decision to release the Noct before several staple lenses. Now, I can only really think of two or three more "mainstream" lenses that are missing: the long-awaited 35mm f1.2 (the only lens listed on the roadmap that has yet to be released), a fast prime in the 200-300mm range, and a fast ultra-wide (think Sony 14mm f1.8). This give me hope that we will be seeing even more specialized lenses in the not-so-distant future. I'm hoping for a new array of perspective control primes!
You definitely have the best reviews in the business out of all the camera stuff. Thanks Steve 👍
Thanks 👍
As an owner of a 400mm 4.5 + 1.4TC.. If it got stolen, broken, or whatever, I'm not sure I'd replace that combination with this 600 6.3 for an extra $1000.... Yes it's perfect, but the 400 + 1.4 is really no slouch. What really throws a wrench in there is that 180-600 6.3 exists, and exists for really cheap (in comparison). Is that lens perfect? No, but it's still really good, and we all know the sharpness difference won't make or break a shot. Talk about having options! Nikon's KILLING IT! Also, thanks for having the best wildlife KZhead channel on the planet. You back up the technical expertise with exceptional photos. It's unusual to see such techies who are ALSO great artists.
Thanks so much! That means a lot to me.
This was a great review - very informative! Thanks for all of the comparisons!
Great job, Steve! As usual short and to the point.
Another review well done !! Started looking at the 600TC a while back, then the 180-600 came out. Good thing I didn't jump because this lens (600PF) now seems to make more sense that the other two. Can't wait to see a more in depth comparison done. Thanks Steve.........appreciate all the hard work you do !!
Man Steve, you are the best! Whenever a new lens gets released this is the channel I got straight to! Hands down the best info and review and I get all my questions answered…hell even ones I didn’t have! You’re one of the most trustworthy guys out there too, take care and thanks again!
Steve as always thank you for a very informative video!!!
great video, Steve. Nikon is really killing it in the long lens department. :)
Depends on what you call long. 600mm lenses are kind of a dime a dozen. Everyone makes a 600mm or ###-=600 zoom. The PF 800 is bad ass.... but then Nikon doesn't make a pro level APS-C body, so you are still stuck with a straight 800mm. I've taken about 130K shots with a Canon 1280mm (equivalent) combo in the last year. Feels pretty normal to me now. I just want a more "pro level combo" that can do the same thing. And I'm not brand loyal. BTW, I don't shoot stuff a long ways away. I shoot small stuff, preferably from 25-30 ft.
@@Chris_Wolfgram I can flip my Z8 to DX crop (19mpix) with a single button whenever I need more than 800mm. Easy & works like a charm. More than enough for web applications as well. Personally I'll skip the 600PF because I already have 400 4.5 / 800 6.3 and TC1.4. Can't justify 400/600TC. Brand loyal or not - you have to admit no other manufacturer offers native long lens lineup comparable to Nikon at the moment (especially the PF lenses or lenses with built in TCs).
@@lukeszczepanski2240 yes, my 45mp R5 could be used as a 17mp crop sensor also. I tried that for a bit too. But my R7 is a crop sensor 32 mp camera ! Which is more mp's for a crop sensor camera, than any other camera on the market. It would take a FF camera with 80mp to match it in crop mode. When the R7 Mk II comes out, I'd be okay if it were still 32mp's, but 35 or 40 would be okay too. Not sure what the physical limits are for a crop sensor? Btw, I'm super envious of your 800 F6.3 ! I have to imagine Nikon will eventually come out with a crop sensor similar to the R7. And that would be my dream combo. I'd jump straight to that. Honestly, I think this is more likely than Canon coming out with its own version of the PF 800 F6.3....
Great stuff, Steve, as always! I only heard rumors about this lens recently and was surprised to see it released for sale today. Bit the bullet and put it on preorder. Will be trading in my beloved 500pf, but this new lens looks like one I will love just as much!
Great video as usual. Thanks Steve😊
Great video as always Steve. Thank you. This was the lens I was waiting on, for so long! I ended up getting the 400mm f4.5 + 1.4TC, so curious how this stacks up.
Great review Steve! I loved the herons and Anhingas from Florida. I was almost determined to get an 800 PF, but the versatility and low weight of this lens make me reconsider.
Just the lens I've been waiting for. Great review. Really torn between this lens and the 800PF. Guess time will tell. Thanks.
Wow amazing lens and spot on review. Thanks you Sir
Absolutely a wonderful review... I keep saying it and I will say it again... Your images are just a treat to watch... If nothing else I would watch your reviews for your work... And you point out so many great things...
Thank you so much - that means a lot to me. The images are the real reason I do what I do.
@@backcountrygallery Not a problem at all… the Pleasure is mine…
Nikon keeping it mysterious with the lenses works to surprise us. It's very satisfying!!
Thanks so much for the awesome video. I would like to see the comparison between 600PF and 400 f4.5 with 1.4 tc. 400mm is overall more versatility with using tc's, albeit with loss of some sharpness
That’s a very relevant comparison I think
Yes. Found this lacking in the comparison.
Very useful review Steve. Thank you
Great review, Steve. Looks like a great choice for a lot of people. The pricing is almost exactly where you would expect between the 400mm f/4.5 and 800mm PF.
Thank you - this is fantastic! Would love to see a comparison of the bokeh with the 500pf but without cropping but instead moving closer to get the same frame which you can sometimes do (not always of course).
Great video ❤ as usual you are the first, An interesting lens for someone like me who carries a 400mm lens in his bag and needs a longer range at the best cost and a lens like this is very interesting.
Thanks Steve as always, exceptional commentary and insights, as this was a bit of a surprise (at this time) Nikon has completely filled the lens lineup for sports and bird photographers. Now Nikon can finally "Focus" on some lenses at the wide end of the spectrum and some specialty lenses, tilt/shift, Long Macro, Super wide angle etc. Take care and I am pleased Nikon is giving you the opportunity to try out these new lenses ahead of time. - Jeff
Thank you for this pre test - i think it will be a top on tour bird lens for my Z9 without a tripod - great infos - best level on you tube
Very nice information on that lens. Keep up the great educational videos.
great review from the best reviewer. thank you!
Great summary. Thank you!
very useful info Steve - thank you!
Oh my oh my, now a real quandary for the second time this year. D850 to Z8 and 500PF to 600PF on the horizon. I'll have to check out the shipping in the UK. Thanks Steve as always seriously out in front again. Nikon really have faith in you.
If there’s a better reviewer of gear in the world than Steve, I sure haven’t encountered that person yet. Thanks for all you do!
ordered and coming tomorrow 600pf. thanks for helping.
Once again you nailed a great review on a new lens. While I find this lens interesting I will go with the 180-600 (safari trip coming up) for sheer convenience of a zoom but will probably end up getting the 600 later. The key points seem to make it worth it.
I would actually be comparing it to the 400 f/4.5 + 1.4x TC combo. $3200 + $400-500 @ 560 f/6.3 vs $4800 @ 600 f/6.3. Is the AF speed and IQ improved enough to warrant an extra $1100-1200. Now If I get the 600 I won't sell my 400 f/4.5, I'll just stop using with the 1.4x TC. The 400 is even lighter and that extra stop of speed is very welcome in lower light. I think it's more a matter should this be nearly $5K for f/6.3. IMO no, either it's f/5.6 even if a few hundred dearer, or it's around $4200 for f/6.3.
I can't wait to get it. Laughed with you running with the lens. 🤣
Terrific review as usual. As a Canon shooter I am increasingly envious of Nikon.
Great review with tons of spot on observations. I completely relate to the comments about f5.6 vs f6.3. It's a big ask, but is a comparison between this lens+1.4tc and 800pf a possibility down the road?
Great video and interesting comparison of the major lens. I just bought the 180-600 lens as the affordable flexibility lens for Airshows and BIF. As you mentioned, it would be a nice setup to have the both the zoom and 600PF to cover your new needs. I wish Nikon had listed this lens on the road map/possible release date. Great info Steve !!
I agree - it's tough to know what to buy when you don't know all the options. I've known about this lens for the last month or so and it's incredibly difficult when people ask me about this lens or that lens when I know the 600PF is really the best fit.
It almost looks like you had fun with this lens. I"ll have to be content with the 180-600 (when mine finally ships), at least for the forseable future. Glad to see Nikon brining so many fine lenses for the Z system, though. 👍
Great review, Steve. Thank you. Your photographs inspire me. I'm amazed with all the shots you got to publish here with just one full day's use. I'm sticking for now with my 100-400 and 1.4 TC, but when I need more I'm coming back to this review over and over. As a beginner bird photographer, I'd probably start with the 180-600 until I needed to step up, and then the 600mm f/6.3 would be great for me.
Thanks so much! I work hard to get those photos and it's a TON of pressure. We always scout out locations a couple days before Nikon gets there so we have some idea of where things are happening, but luck plays a larger role than I'd like!
I am sold on the 180-600, still on the list and can't wait to get it.
I'd have been all over this lens just a month ago. The 180-600mm really exceeded my expectations. No preorder on this for me. Open to reconsidering first time it goes on sale. I own the 500mm pf and 800mm pf already. Love them both so it was hard to not hit the preorder early this morning...even harder after watching your video. Thanks Steve!
Very nice review , you really do an excellent job. For me this sounds to be the logical choice as I'm a serious hobbiest not pro. If I could swing the cost I would probably go with the 600TC, but again not making money off my work couldn't justify the cost. Thanks for a straight forward review.
Liked that run and shoot bit you did.
Even I have to have fun sometimes :)
As always, so great to have these new lens reviews coming from you, Steve; no BS youtube videos!!! :) Yet another lens to consider as I wait for the 600 TC and as the most indecisive guy on the planet, this tortures me LOL 800 pf? 180-600? 600 6.3? or the sell-a-kidney-to-afford-it 600 TC? ... Again, thanks for this. Cheers!
I’ve been waiting for this lens for sooooo loooong!! Youhouuuuuuuu Merci Nikon!!!!
Another great review, Steve, even with the limited time and access to test the lens. Nikon sure is giving some great choices for birds, wildlife and action. As an amateur without budget constraints, my GAS keeps shifting between the big fast - expensive - primes with their built in TCs and the more affordable, slightly less fast and much lighter versions - the 400 4.5, this one or the 800 6.3. My current bird and wildlife kit is my 500mm 5.6 pf on my Z8 with the (old) FTZ. It’s been my go to lens for years now, from my D850 to my Z6ii and now the Z8. It works great on all except the poor focusing Z6ii. I also have the 70-200 2.8 that I often pair with the 1.4x or 2.0x TC. I’m not sure this one compels me to “upgrade” from my 500 but its great that the choice is there.
❤ your review as always, but this vdo I enjoy to watch your funny gimmick too! 😂😂 . I laugh when you run and shoot to explain how easy and fast to positioning and shooting with 600PF😂😊 Thank you Steve! My 500PF is shaking chills.
Great video! I don’t need this lens but boy I want it!
Hello Steve, Yes a great video as alway from your self. I love the look of this lens and I know one will end up in my bag, it may not be until 2024 but, as much as I like my 500mm PF with the ftz I just think all my Z glass just work a bit better when I use Z glass. Keep well, keeps safe and please stay honest and true as I just love both your work and thoughts.
Really curious to see a full comparison between this beauty and the 400mm 4.5 (plus 1.4 TC)
I agree & think it’s great that Nikon are hitting the long lens market out of the ball park, but why not concentrate fulfilling the orders for the lenses they’ve already announced & released!
Yeah, I'm still waiting for my 180-600. 😢
…sorry Steve, I also meant to add what a great video this was. 👏👏
Great video as usual Steve! I think you can create a fitness workout for those that wish to pursue wildlife photography. The Run and gun moves you demonstrated were pretty darned good. There a some great exercises for forearms I swear by. Pronated and supernated wrist curls (wooden pole) and lateral twist with a wooden pole. Two weeks and you will notice a huge difference since forearm strength increases quickly.
LOL, yup, I could be a YT fitness model :) 🤣
Wow! Awesome! 🤩🤩🤩
Make a comparison video with 500 pf, z 400 f4.5+1.4xTC, z 180-600, z 600 f4 and with the z 800 pf. I'm really looking forward to the z 180-600 and want to see the sharpness differences between these two lenses
Great video! Now curious what other lenses are not on the roadmap :) Also echo previous comment re 400 f/4.5 + 1.4TC - would be cool if when you test your production copy you could share your thoughts on comparing 600PF with that combo. Thanks again for all your excellent videos!
You'll never know. Nikon already said the roadmap is no longer needed. It is back to normal
Great and complex review Steve! Thank you for your insights and thoughts. What Nikon camera body would you recommend for an enthusiast wildlife shooter for this lens? (other than Z8/Z9)
The problem is, at the moment, only the Z8 / Z9 really offer the "goodies" for wildlife shooters. It almost seems like the new ZF might fit the bill a bit better than something like the Z6/7ii. It's really a tough call since the performance isn't quite there. Not that it's impossible to use a Z6/7ii for wildlife, it's just that people are often a little disappointed in the performance.
Steve, were you in Orlando for this shoot? Looks familiar to me. Amazing review, this is a great example of why I think you are the best in the business in explaining things in real world terms. My only issue with this lens is the cost. It seems a bit high, especially versus the real world market price of the 500pf which is down to about $2k now.
Great work from Nikon to present so many options. The price point, however, might be a bit above the level for many. That is where the 180-600 will cover it for many. All Nikon now needs is a Z6iii with a 33 mp sensor and the Focus system of the Z8 to give the "mid range" price point shooters the Nikon version of the Sony A9ii, Canon R6ii.
Hello Mr. Steve. Are you gonna do a wildlife review of the Nikon ZF in the near future? Would love to watch it! Best regards from Portugal
You really are the best nature photography reviewer out there. I'm a nature photography hobbyist, thinking of maybe going full time in the future. I'm still using my good ol' D500 and tamron 150-600, but I dropped the gear once on ice and even though it went through repairs, the lens doesn't want to acquire focus anymore. So I'm dreaming of buying Z8/Z9 and probably the 180-600 as a starter. But I mostly photograph birds, so I'm not sure if I should just save my money and go straight for the 800mm PF. 600 doesn't seem to be enough for me, as I'm almost always cropping. But together the 180-600 and 800 would cover most situations.
I'm a D500 shooter too but have the Nikon 200-500mm. It has been a great lens but my copy is getting a bit dusty and I fear might even have a slight bit of fungus. I plan on getting the 500pf but can't help feeling that I should be saving for a z8 and perhaps the 800pf like yourself. Trouble is I can't really justify the cost when my D500 is still fairly new and is a beast of a camera.
@@cabelas1987 I have the same D500/200-500 lens combo and have been facing the same quandary. After way too research, way to much thought, and agonizing over which way to go, my always supportive wife asked if I had finally made a decision. I told her that once my skills as a photographer outstrip my camera's capabilities, I would probably make a change, but not until then. Without a word she left the room, than came back with my old D200 in her hands, dropped it in my lap and said, "good decision, let me know when you are ready".
Awesome. Nikon is coming with great tele-lenses.
Great video, thank you!
Thanks, Steve. Great review, as always. I really appreciate that you don't accept any financial benefit from manufacturers. I think that's a rarity these days and I always wonder if (even unconscious) bias slips in with other reviewers.
Between the 100-400, 400 f4.5, 180-600 and this 600pf it is going to be a tough choice for me once Nikon actually gets around to making a mirrorless D500, incredible range of options. For the time being though my 500pf is serving me quite well and will likely continue to do so since I am a used market buyer.
Was contemplating canceling my 180-600 and buying the 600pf or 800 instead. Perfect timing on the video. Also love the idea of setting control ring for ISO, gonna give that a shot.
I did!
Nice one Steve. I was wondering, as others pointed out, what about 400 f4.5 with 1.4 TC? About the same focal length/f stop, and without the "interesting" properties of PF background, and of course, "two" focal lengths (400 and ~600) in one lens.... Have been thinking about completely moving into native glass but there are so many choices even accounting for the price point !! Hope that comparison will come once you get your copy of 600 pf :)
I think this makes a good companion lens for 100-400 owners looking for something longer without overlapping what they already have - would make sense for people shooting mostly larger wildlife. I mostly shoot small birds and for me the 180-600 + 800 combo would be a pretty great setup, if I had piles of cash lying around spare 😅Nice to see Nikon continuing to show they have the best selection of telephoto lenses in the mirrorless world, though it'd be nice to see a few of the odder third party offerings pop up too, like the Sigma 60-600.
First off, thanks for your wonderful videos! This is going to be a popular lens. I’ll stick with my 800 PF but had I’d known about this lens I probably would have waited. The size and weight are the best features for me. The f/6.3 isn’t the end of the world and I always take into consideration the distance of the background for the best image. I guess it’s just me but a draw back to f/4…in my opinion…is the slender DOF; don’t like sharp eyes and blurry beaks. 🙂Again thanks for all you do to help us get better results.
Nikon publishes MTF charts for their lenses. The MTF of this lens looks quite impressive! It should be significantly sharper than the 180-600 at 600m and therefore allow more cropping and also produce better results with teleconverters.
Hi Steve , wonderful review as always. One question - if I had a 800 mm PF already with me , does 600mm PF make sense to buy ?
Too many variables to really say. For me, I use 600 and 800 in equal amounts so I'd say both. However, some people are seldom at 600mm and come seldom at 800mm. It really depends what you shoot.
This is a truly exciting lens. I, too, wish that Nikon had made the PF lenses f/5.6.
The pf lenses Nikon has been putting out, both F and now Z mount, have been amazing so yet again my wallet just got smacked when it wasn't expecting it. :) The size I think was the tipping point for me as lately I've been shooting wild horses from inside my jeep and the 800 is just slightly on the awkward end of the scale while inside. Thanks for the thoughts on this lens Steve, looking forward to you getting your own copy so you and do your typical review/comparison.
I have a Jeep as well and thought the same thing ... that is why I have it ordered (11" and 3lbs!). Definitely and jeep trail type of lens!
Excellent review Steve 🙏🏻 How does this lens perform vs Z400 f4.5 with 1.4 TC ? (That’s 560mm f6.3)
It’s gonna pair great with the 100-400. The 180-600 is less compelling by the day.
Really didn’t see this one coming Steve, not sure what else Nikon can offer now!😀 Perhaps a D500 Z replacement! Thanks for all the info, much appreciated! 👏👍😀
Im with you on D500 replacement!
Nikon gave it to the right guy to test it and come away with a accurate review in a short time.
I am using 600TC for the last couple of months. I thought in the first this 600PF lens will be will be the nearest alternative. Yes, it is true but for sure, the TC option to be able switch to 840mm is totally something else. 9K dollar difference can be paid even for the TC option only. I thought you did not deeply focus on this but for sure every knows this. I believe F4 for 600TC vs f6,3 is still way better and a huge difference. I wonder what the Sony and especially Canon users are saying after Nikons' launching of so many high-end lenses. I think although the late introduction of eye tracking system with z9 was a great disappointment, today the answer of Nikon has been really great. I am happy that I did not switch to other brands. Thank you Steve for such professional presentation.
Moved from the Sony a1 & 200-600 as a walk around birding and bird tour lens to the OM-1 & 150-400. I miss some FF aspects, but OM system is a pound lighter and much better balanced. And has a much better balance. A Z8 with 600PF is a tempting alternative.
Nice review. However, I believe Z 400mm f4.5 plus TC 1.4 (560mm f6.3) seems much better. This combination cost less. Similar focal length, same aperture and less weight. Besides, it is more flexible as you can use Z 400 f4.5 alone if you want to gather more light. I think this new lens is not attractive in consideration of its high price.
Yet again, you’ve knocked it out of the park Steve. There’s a very good reason Nikon let you use it in advance. I wonder how many 180-600mm buyers now regret it? Still happy with my Z100-400, Z800 & ZTC1.4x combination. I miss the quality of the F400 2.8 but don’t miss the weight!
I don't think that they will regret, there is a considerable price difference for the average income user!!.👍🏼
@@uaebifvideo5472 Suggest you read some of the comments. People are cancelling their 180-600mm orders. Of course it depends on how much money you have, but this lens really muddies the waters. For those who can’t afford the 600TC, this lens maybe within their reach. Launching so soon after the 180-600 makes it a conundrum for some.
Grate video Steve. Wonder why they have 4 FN2 buttons! Crazy! I got this lens!
I think it's so no matter where your finger is or hot the camera is oriented it's easy to find a button to press.
As usual, your reviews are the gold standard for wildlife photographic gear. Only one thing about the review remains unclear to me, does the new 600mm PF replace the 500mm PF in Nikon's lineup of lenses? Thanks for being such a great resource for photographic information.
It's the Z mount equivalent. I think they'll probably produce the 500PF for as long as people with F mounts want it.
I always see good reviews from Steve Perry.
A Z 600mm f5.6 S PF should be a game changer.
I've been recently scouting Black Point Wildlife Drive but not Orlando Wetlands park yet because it's still just a bit too early in the season for the migration. In another month or two it'll be a lot busier, looking forward to it!
It wasn't super busy there - birds or people - but it worked :)
This is such a great option! If only I could sell my 500pf.
And it has a gold ring! This is what I was hoping for, although I had really hoped for a 5.6. I wonder how much bigger it would need to be to be a 5.6. With the 95mm element, I wonder how many common parts there are with the 500pf and 400 4.5? My order is in.
Did you go to Paynes Prairie state park outside Gainesville to do this shooting? Looks like the clearwater part, I go there almost every year for Christmas time. Very nice video, I am a Canon shooter but the last year or two of tele lens releases from Nikon have got me thinking (a lot).
We did not - I've been there before though - cool place!
Hey Steve! As always, you do a SUPERB comparison between these lenses! I recently acquired the NIkkor Z 180-600 f/5.6-6.3 for ocassional bird/wildlife photography on my Z8, and have a question if I may...Taking your suggestion to change the Lens FN Ring to ISO, I find that my lens LN FN Ring defaults to Manual Focus, and in the Custom Settings Shooting (F2*) menu option, I select the ring and then choose ISO + and -, and click Menu/Done to save the settings. However, when I'm in shooting mode, and turn that ring, it STILL changes to Manual Focus! In other words, the camera seems to have ignored my changing it to ISO. Is there a secret to implementing the programmable Lens FN ring so that it holds the custom setting? Thank you, and BTW, I tested the sharpness of this 180-600, comparing it to even my NIkkor Z 50 f/1.8 S lens, and in the center, it's hard to discern a difference, even at 400% in photoshop! So, needless to say, I'm quite impressed with the sharpness of this 180-600!
Thanks another gr8 review... does it work with DSLR.? Or it needs an adapter..?
Thanks! It's Z mount only - there's no adapter that can work due to the differences in flange distance.
@@backcountrygallery thanks Steve, that means i need to get a Z camera, i have the good old D850 by the way.. love your videos, especially reviews.! Thanks again.!🙏🏼
First off congratulations on being picked by Nikon to do a first review on this lens. Wow, for those of us that can only afford one long telephoto. This makes the choice all that much more difficult.
I am a Nikon turned Canon shooter, considering to come back to Nikon due to this lens. Canon has had a series of silences in response to the excellent affordable lenses Nikon has released for wildlife. The latest rumor of the 200-800 f63-9 might be the last straw to make me jump the ship. While affordability is subjective, this lens can be called really affordable considering what it delivers and where it sits amongst the big lenses.
you missed the comparasion with the 400mm f4.5 Z with the 1.4x TC
Probably couldn't do it with a pre-production copy. Usually you can't directly compare image quality. Practically, the native 600mm may be marginally sharper, but not so much to justify the extra expense if a 400 works for you most of the time, and you occasionally need to reach further.
i guess it was not wished to compare the 400 4.5 with 1.4 tc as it produces almost 600mm with 6.3 and Nikon itself states you wont loose IQ using the tc's
@@matthiasscheurer8498I own the 400 f4.5 and the 2x TC, and can confirm you absolutely do lose IC. Not a huge amount, but I’ve found myself usually just cropping in
@@thewatchkeeper3619 i do own the 400 F4.5 and the 1.4 TC, i just wonder, why the comparison was not part of the video, even if this is one of the most obvious ones... Nikon itself stresses the fact, that there is no loss of IQ if you are using the TC's. i guess its hard to justify buying the 400 and TC and now buying the 600 on top. And for the videos of all the 'ambassadors' that come out in the next few hours and days, the story should not be if you already own the 400 f4.5 and a tc, there is no use for a 600 6.3...
@@matthiasscheurer8498 I understand, but Nikon can stress it doesn’t reduce IQ/C all they want, in my own personal testing that’s not what I’ve found with the 2x - there is definitely greater fuzziness. I only use the 2X when filming now, if it’s still images I stick to 400 and crop
The 600mm PF and 800mm PF are intriguing options and your summary of the pros/cons of each is much appreciated. I will suggest you consider making the following update to the comparison chart you use. I will suggest you change the top line from "f-stop" to "f-stop/entrance pupil diameter." The top line in the current chart shows "f-stop" and you've accurately listed both lenses as having an f/6.3 maximum f-stop. However, it's not f-stop, per se, that determines depth of field and light-gathering. The 600mm f/6.3 PF has a (600/6.3=95.23) 95mm entrance pupil diameter. The 800mm f/6.3 PF has a (800/6.3=126.98) 127mm entrance pupil diameter. That's a significantly larger virtual aperture and should mean the 800mm delivers better backgrounds and improved low light performance in comparison with the images of the same subject made with both lenses at f/6.3. The difference in performance should be fairly noticeable when a photo made with the 600mm is cropped to match the 800mm lens's angle of view or when the 600mm is used with a TC to roughly match the 800mm angle of view. Of course, I'll defer to the experience you have in the field using lenses of different focal lengths and f-stops. That said, if your field and test results do align with the lens having the larger entrance pupil diameter routinely showing creamier backgrounds and having better low light performance, I'll recommend you consider modifying the first line of the chart. In this case, the 800mm PF would have the advantage :) Happy New Year!
It's really nice that nikon allow to pro quality wildlif glass, on all other you need to go over 15k.
officially dominated the long end over 100mm the competition is not even close
I agree it should have been a f/5.6. That would have been a clear advantage over the 180-600mm and a bigger push to owners of the 500mm PF to upgrade. For me, shooting mainly PR and events, the versatility of the 180-600mm and at the same max aperture will win out, especially at the price.
Great piece of objective. However, I would say a bit on the expensive side. The price difference to the 800 pf is relatively small and rather large to the 500 pf. So unless one has the urge to switch completely to Z mount - I would instead stay with the 500 pf and get the 800 pf which I guess will outperform both the 500 pf and the 600 pf with converters.
As usual excellent analysis... I have already 100-400. Is it good option to go with this 600 /6.3 OR 180-600 if $$ is not an issue...?
IMO, that's would make a great, lightweight combo.
Boy oh boy would love to see a Nikon D500 replacement with this lens