Martin Tyler Says SCRAPPING FA Cup Replays Will ONLY HURT The Football Pyramid! 👀😬
2024 ж. 17 Сәу.
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Martin Tyler joins Hawksbee & Baker on to discuss the news that the FA are scrapping FA Cup replays next year.
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The biggest question is why are the Premier League influencing getting rid of replays in round one and two??? Premier League teams don't enter until round three, so what happens before then should be of no concern to them.
Most Premier league fans that go games like replays as well. It’s just pundits that don’t want to travel to games. The same people ask for penalties straight away. All so they can get home early. These people don’t care about tradition.
@stretfordender11 so they've taken a potentially huge sum of money for lower team clubs to appease pundits?
Because they don’t care and it’s easier for them to manage
I remember when the final had replays, which I always thought was bizarre. Nah, better off without.
Let's get rid of the 3pm blackout since lower league football is no concern of theirs.
The FA cup died for me when neutral ground semi finals on the same day disappeared
I wouldn't say it died for me (as the competition still exists) but I know what you mean. I started supporting whichever team was playing against Man Utd after Gary Neville I believe it was after they did the treble in 1999 and had to play in the World Club Cup, said the FA Cup was "our cup" like it belonged solely to that club.
Since 1991, it’s been a continual erosion of the fa cup. And the game in general, really. Football was thrown to the vultures with thatcher’s capitalist revolution.
In my opinion the FA cup as a whole is being destroyed, it began with semi finals at Wembley and the final played at 5pm 😢
The next thing the Prem will moan about is, Why do we have two cups? We could make room for more games in the USA and Saudi instead
It's because of 'precious flowers' like De Bruyne & Haaland, feeling tired. Earning £300,000 - £800,000 aweek, must be weighing them down ?!.
Man city are in round 3 this about round 1. Get get a clue
Dunno how the premier league players manage! They must be absolutely shattered working 3 whole hours a week! They must be totally exhausted
It's not exactly like the big clubs put out full strength teams. Usually a bunch of kids, some reserves and a few stars they're looking to get fit. They're worried about fixture congestion, yet play a completely different XI in an FA Cup game on a Saturday to the one they field in a UCL group game midweek. If they were playing their first team in the Cup, i get their argument, but its complete BS
The lower league team should get the Home game when drawn against teams in higher leagues
It's good to have opportunity to play at big club ground though and for fans to watch. And some clubs in league 1 have better attendance than some premier leagues
This gets them less money as the FA cup money is split. FA cup replays give a good away game for example on a Wednesday night. I love replays.
This is what they do in Serie A but in reverse. Always plays at the bigger club. And it's a silly policy. Best thing to do instead of changing all these tour aments is to get rid of seeding. If all the big guys play each other early and eliminate each other then so what
I'm not from England and I simply don't care to watch Man Utd vs Coventry. But people will tune in and the stadium will be fill. Doesn't matter who is playing who they will tune in and watch. So get rid of the seeding and let the chips fall how they fall
Lower league teams should get to choose to play away, if drawn against a bigger club, for the ticket shares & TV money
Always comes down to money and the big clubs taking more more more. Killing the game.
Also applies to lower league clubs wanting more money. Same difference.
A symptom of wider society and the exploitative economic system they sit on.
The FA cup used to be something worth playing for, but has been eroded over the years and now another downgrade. I always looked forward to watching matches, but as with clubs, I don't have much interest now.
The owners don’t care about the football pyramid. Football was thrown to the vultures 40 years ago.
martyn tyler a legend
Simple solution. Clubs that qualify for UEFA competitions do not play in the FA Cup, only the league cup.
They should bring in a rule that the team from the lowest division in the draw automatically gets the home fixture.. if they are from same division, they play as drawn..
But it's a knockout competition? It's the luck of the draw?
It’s goddamn criminal this decision. Another stake in the heart of the clubs below the Championship. Total bullshit
What law has been broken? Why have the police not arrested the FA then? You might not like it but it's not criminal.
The fa must think stuff grass roots football disgusting shameful
The fa is a symptom.
Let's not forget Man Utd withdrew from the FA Cup in 1999 in favour of competing in some FIFA World Cup challenge competition or other. European and World Cup football is very BIG but so is the FA Cup with all it's famous history. Before making these decisions to so call evaluate the competition - Just for once think about ALL concerned ... every club and most importantly the paying supporters. For what my opinion is worth - I would do away with extra time, go back to all ties kicking off at 3:00 pm Saturday afternoon with replays in the Week 7: 30 pm kick off, Semi Finals to be played on the same day on neutral grounds ... we have some great new stadiums now with great facilities .. just dont overcharge, the Wembley Final to be played at the END of the season kick off time 3:00 pm. ALL fans / supporters of the great game and their opinions matter.
United didn’t want to. It was down to fa and government pressure due to wanting the World Cup in 2006. So long as our society, and football, is built upon an exploitative economic system, you won’t get what you want.
Absolutely shambolic. They'll stop the non league clubs from participating next because its an embarrassment on their brand if they loose. So many people rely on the FA Cup to go to old Trafford or the Emirates because day to day life doesn't make it possible. So you see football through the eyes of your own club. the fact that no club outside the premier league has had a say is a total lack of disrespect to the footballing Pyramid. The beautiful game was built around the working man. Now its been stolen from the obscenely rich.
Let the top six money making machines piss off to the European Super League. They won’t be missed for long and maybe we can get football back to what it should be. A game for working class people to enjoy. Utter joke of a decision
That won’t get the game back to that. It doesn’t deal with the cause.
Best bit of the fa cup is the replays and typically the premier League get what they wanted and maybe the should cut down their pre season trips
Premier league teams dont join till round 3 this is about round 1. They have nothing to do with it.
I completely disagree. I've never seen the point of draws in a knockout competition. I want it decided on the day.
@@philiphaseldine1135 if you don't want replays then don't make 20 changes for 5y cup games and take it seriously
It will widen the gap between the Premier League and other divisions.
Well yeah. PL is the holy grail. Why should PL teams care about lower divisions?
Why should the top 6 always support the entire league. Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, United, City and Liverpool basically prop the PL and will soon be part of a European Super League with their peers like Real Madrid, Bayern, Inter, etc. Then the remaining rag tag clubs can have all the replays they want, and no money.
@@FredEmberg4444 The government will not allow that.
@@migez1 Because most PL clubs have the money to help out the lower divisions and but instead choose to be greedy.
@@taliamason7986 it’s not their job to help lower leagues. Should the PL be funding Sunday league teams as well?
league clubs should pull out that would make the fa panic utter disgrace
That would be more disrespectful than anything else. You can't claim to uphold the glory of a competition then refuse to play in it.
Should have been scrapped years ago, if you’re an EFL team and lose a replay against another EFL team, the revenue lost is not a fart in the wind. The only time it would mean a big loss would be if you’re drawn against a top PL team and couldn’t have a replay but these are few and far between. I support an EFL team and I couldn’t care less.
Thank you for restoring my faith in football fans and that they are not all bitter and jealous of EPL clubs. I agree. It's a knockout competition. If people want to play for draws they can do that in the league which has a finite number of games.
@@philiphaseldine1135 my personal preference as well, if the PL would be willing, they could buy half the FA cup from the FA and give the winner a CL spot. I think both parties would be grateful. The EFL would benefit from increased revenue from TV deals as a result of the more competent PL marketing its virtues.
People got mad at MLS for doing the same thing, and said MLS needs to be more like England lol.
Only benefits the elite and richer teams .
But what about if a lower league club wins the game either in normal time, extra time, or on penalties? Instead of holding on for a draw to play another game in what is meant to be a knockout competition.
Teams will defend hoping to win on pens the end of open attacking football ,the magic of the cup . GET RID of the big seven and start again the premier league has killed the game.
absolutely no care for lower league clubs.. when one players week wages in the prep league can make a huge change too the fortunes of another club for a year or two then you know that football is in a terrible place... sad times
Scrap the useless Carabao League cup instead. Disgraceful 😡
I'm sure fans of teams that have won it wouldn't call it "useless". That's basically saying one cup is more important than another. Then there's no difference from saying the Champions League is more important than the FA Cup. It's a circular argument.
big clubs buy these huge squad with world class players on the bench and solid premier league players in the reserves, but instead of them making use of those squads, instead football has to change for everyone.
This is about round . Premier league join in round 3 has nothing to do with them
@@L1am21 it's every round from 1 to the final. and it was literally a deal agreed between the premier league and the fa to benefit the big clubs in the premier league
@@oniondesu9633 oh well.
All about the elite clubs... And the money never ever reaches the proper grass roots
It’s clear to see that the premier league has placed pressure on the FA, as they believe match replays could affect the quality of their product (The Premier League), which means potentially less revenue in the long term. They’ve also promised £33M to trickle down to Grassroots Football; There are 18,000 grassroots teams in England, meaning that each team (Hypothetically) gets a cut of £1,833 over a period of time… This is nothing in the grand scheme of things!! This is just another reason why I’m boycotting watching the Premier League; And we need to start calling it what it is… The English Super League!!
Why should the top 6 always support the entire league. Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, United, City and Liverpool basically prop the PL and will soon be part of a European Super League with their peers like Real Madrid, Bayern, Inter, etc. Then the remaining rag tag clubs can have all the replays they want, and no money.
Are other European countries with similar structures doing the same?
People have being asking for this for years.
Trying to re invent the wheel . For the good of the bigger clubs .
In my experience when Manchester united played Newport count away it’s was my happiest day in my life bcz I’m united fun
A one off game means lower league teams get a better opportunity to go through
No it doesn't
Just put the smaller teams at home and make them get the most of the money
Smaller teams get way more money in away fixtures due to the higher attendances.
@@joemorris1282 then put them away then. Stop trying to make things complicated ya awkward sod
@@danielsaunders4867 Just saying, they would make more money away, how is that awkward and how is it complicated?
Why should the top 6 always support the entire league. Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, United, City and Liverpool basically prop the PL and will soon be part of a European Super League with their peers like Real Madrid, Bayern, Inter, etc. Then the remaining rag tag clubs can have all the replays they want, and no money.
@@danielsaunders4867FA cup replays are brilliant for match going fans. Especially the fans of the big clubs that’s struggle for away tickets so the big away sections in the FA cups gives fans a chance to go. This is such a poor decision. The same people want straight to penalties. It’s pathetic
Then let the big six clubs go their own way and treat the world to this massive interest and its lucre. I think fooball fans have had enough of this is European intrusion on our English football heritage. Let the Super League begin and the rest of us can enjoy our traditions - including replays. When they find out no other teams want to plays them, they'll soon change their minds.
They should scrap the league cup totally, no one cares about that competition the FA cup has more heritage, no one can name the winners of the league cup going back through the years because no one cares...
Tell that to the winners
No fans want this. I’d rather see less European and international friendly games.
Replays are ridiculous these days. Scrap them!
You are the only other person in the whole wide world who feels the same way I do! I've always never like them and glad they've been ditched! So that makes 2 of us against 99.99999999% of all football fans on this evidence!!!!
Brilliant segment guys. Always nice listening to Martin Tyler. He’s indeed the voice of football in this county.
FA cup is senseless
This is why I hate the Premier league and never watch it
Sure people care about the football pyramids in their countries. The question is whether they contribute to it or not and the answer is no.
I was never a fan of replays and I'm glad they've been ditched. It's a knockout competition. The result should be decided on the day. If you want another game in it, try to WIN the game instead of holding on for a draw. Just because something has always been done one way doesn't mean that continues forever. Remember when the final had replays? Want to go back to that? I don't.
Why should the top 6 always support the entire league. Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, United, City and Liverpool basically prop the PL and will soon be part of a European Super League with their peers like Real Madrid, Bayern, Inter, etc. Then the remaining rag tag clubs can have all the replays they want, and no money.
Yeah British fans love tradition, that's why they have sold all they clubs and culture to the Americans and Saudis 😂😂😂
They're talking as if they're banning the cup altogether
It’s not far off. It’s image and importance has been persistently eroded since 1991. This is just another nail.
Surely if you're an underdog it's better to have a way better chance of winning on penalties rather than having to go another 90 minutes?
its not about that its about the extra gate revenue.
Not unless you scrap extra time.
@@leonhughes9014It’s a football tournament not a fund raiser, if those lower league teams want more revenue then play better football and win to progress further in the tournament, its 11v11 there is zero reason why a lower league team can’t outplay a higher league team.
@@rossrobson91 You are a fantasist.
@@leonhughes9014 But it's all hypothetical. If you manage to get to extra time v Burnley, win on pens and then draw Man Utd, that's better than going another game against Burnley.
Fk the Premier League
Lets deprive lower league clubs the chance of a lifetime game so the big 6 can have a rest to flop in europe again like tonight .
This about round 1. Premier league arnt in the fa cup till round 3.
FA cup is a joke.
The FA is only interested in the overrated premier league
If you are good enough on the day then you have an equal chance at winning a game of football, nobody should be given a second chance to pinch a win or in the case of lower league teams just for a few quid in revenue, at the end of the day its a tournament and not just some annual fund raising event, very little people want replays, the majority of fans have been calling for these to be scrapped for years!! Good riddens.
Who do you support?
You're clueless, judging by the response on social media today, the overwhelming majority of fans are against this decision
@@ethandalton6480 Everyone is entitled to their own opinion
Aye, that’s why it’s taken a century for them to think of it. Just another symptom of wider society and a system that creates concentrated wealth and power.
Good, they made no sense
How about scrap Martin Tyler from commentating on matches
His voice is iconic, scrap him?
Martin Tyler has been the voice of World Football for decades. Legend.
Glad its scrapped
This.can.solved All.prem.clubs.and.higher.clubs Play.away.too..lower.league.clubs