Miles Morales VS Miguel O'Hara (The Lunar Train Scene) | Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse | CLIP
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@@turdboi420-69This and Into the Spider verse is everything right about a Spider-Man movie vs those lame Tom Holland movies 🤮🤢🤢🤢🤢
Miles got fully grown adults acting like he held the damn spider at gunpoint and made it bite him 💀
This. I hate Miguel for acting like Miles told the spider to bite him
Ikr? The spider came to Earth 1610 because The Spot ran a test that brought it there. Miles had nothing to do with the spider's disappearance from Earth 42, he was just the guy who happened to get bit instead.
Miguel should blame the Spot (when he was a scientist) for bringing the spider into Miles’s dimension in the first place.
Yup, a 30-something dude is beating up a 15 year old boy because the boy won't let his father die. The thing is, Miguel was hostile to Miles from the very beginning, look at the empanada scene. Miles is so eager to meet him, brings food, and greets Miguel happily. The ass just throws the empanada in the trash can and later the can itself at Miles. Very stable guy. Yeah, he is traumatised, but he is still an asshole. If he just talked with Miles without hostility, Miles would have listened.
@@michaelmahabir213THIS🕷️
"You don't belong here. You never did" That line hit me the most.
It hurts so much
One of the most cruel and harshest reality checks I've ever heard.
I don’t like it
O’Hara definitely went way too far with that one! He crossed the line, Man!…..CROSSED THE LINE!!!!!!
It’s projection. Miguel says during his internal monologue that he’s “not like the others”
That "YOURE A MISTAKE" then slamming him down onto the train is so clean
Miguel crossed the line then and there. If anyone's a mistake, it's HIM.
@@YangTheAceyou still don't get it, huh? Miles's spider powers we're not meant for him. The spider from U-42 was not supposed to be in Miles universe.
@@marlonquintana3466 I know. But even so, Miles IS Spider Man, no matter if he's an anomaly or not. He saved the multiverse.
@@marlonquintana3466You don't get it actually lol! But regardless if Miles was bit by a spider that wasn't supposed to bite him. The whole point of getting bit is that it can happen to anybody, even in this case a spider from a universe that isn't from their own. That's why they state in the original movie, "anyone can wear the mask."
@@cartoonfoxguy2002 you're just emotionally compromised for Miles. Miguel O'Hara mirrors cyclops from X-Men. He does what must be done.
1:32 can we just appreciate for a moment how satisfyingly strong that slam looked? the animators did a spectacular job.
If Miguel wanted he could actually neutralize Miles, but he's not evil. If Miguel was evil Miles would have been hunted down & taken out.
Miguel's VA gave an amazing delivery as well
@@marlonquintana3466i mean, not wanting to kill a person for something they have no control over doesnt make him good
@@filipbitala2624trying to protect multiverse and save people i think thats enough reason to be good person
@@umutduvan thinking he is protecting the universe
I feel like Miguel crossed the line with some of those lines like, “You’re a mistake!” and “You don’t belong here. You never did.”
He's probably going insane with the amount of stress that the universe and himself have placed on him.
He's projecting.
I see it as a harsh truth that’s clouded in judgement. He doesn’t hate Miles, he just hates that him being spider-man caused all this mess, even if it wasn’t Miles fault.
Dude shut up. Miles is a mistake.
Trying to mentally defeat him
Imagine how scared miguel was of being butt ass naked when miles started to make his suit malfunction
But instead they gave Miguel a good durability feat: he tanked that blast pretty well and the ultimate spidey Miguel is a beast and he actually shoots webs and is fast asl
I wouldve liked to see that
📸🤨@@Gabrielok6
I’d like to believe that Miguel at least has vampire themed underwear on
@@prophetbaby5569 miles didn't even use his full power besides every spiderman can tank the venom strike not just Miguel
Guys do you remember miles saying: “sorry man, I’m going home” before pushing Miguel? I am so confident I heard it in the cinema.
yeah they had it in during the cinema film but they changed it to a different version when it was released
He also said "It's morbin' time"
I'm glad they removed it
Is this some kind of mandela effect? 😂
@@vsevolodzhurukov3547 so sad that part was cut
loved how this referenced the fact that Miles was the alternative ultimate spiderman when the original peter parker from the other ultimate universe was suppose be ultimate spiderman. The writers did an excellent job referencing original source material and managing to tie them together.
I only wish that they would have called it 1610B or something like that to keep the comics separate because I'm pretty sure that the comics spider-man exist in this timeline
Bro imagine what it was like seeing this fight scene, and movie for that matter, for the first and being absolutely high out of your mind. I felt like if I blinked or stopped holding on to something I was gonna fall to my death, but the adrenaline rush would keep me watching. It was like nothing I had ever experienced before.
I had an edible and watched this film and it was the craziest experience
@@unclebensrice4702 How did you feel during the train scene bro?!?!
@@usarmyisthebest9193 heart was racing but it was amazing
I was on 4g of blue meanie (very potent) shrooms the first time I saw it Dude… the animation…. Literally have no words. It’s something you can’t describe. Absolutely insane
@@DropBear_42 it's crazy innit I wasn't on anything that strong but I've still never been immersed in a film like that before I almost felt like I was inside a comic book that's the only way I can describe it
Everyone is talking about the emotional impact of this scene, but I just love the fact that Miguel was fading the hell out of Miles. That shit was so satisfying--seeing someone more experienced actually be more experienced for once. If Miles hadn't led the army of spider people up there for Miguel to have a moment of panic about, Miles would have been caught right then and there. That feels like an earned win for Miles as opposed to the bullshit most movies pull with how the protagonist gets out of a sticky situation (no pun intended).
I mean it's clear that Miles was holding back immensity. He purposely never went invisible or used his venom.powers.
I think Miguel was physically stronger but Miles’s objective wasn’t to fight but to escape. Miles also did get a few good moves on him, but it was really until the space highway when he started glitching that Miguel began really hitting him.
@@SlyMagmaMiles wasn't holding back at all, he was "Glitching" the entire Chase with messed with his Venom powers which he's also still trying to Master. Also this is the first time he went one on one with probably the best and strongest Spider-Man, he was just out matched
@SlyMagma He didn't use invisibility cuz his goal was to lure them out. Why turn yourself invisible when you need to be visible to bring thr chasers from point A to B.
You call one slam a fade? While Miguel caught feet, hands and elbows plus a venom tap? Hardcore glazing
Doesn't have the same kick without the "Sorry man, I'm going home."
Agreed and it felt off
@@isaiahwashington9782 INCREDIBLY OFF
Bit of an improvement without it. Not gonna lie.
@@CameronCleaves11Cnah, ima do my own thing.
@@CameronCleaves11C ...In what word?
Gotta love how Peter and Gwen both immediately stop trying to help Miles when he catches on to the truth.
I was so disappointed with Peter B in this scene (not in the direction they took his character, I actually think this is great and there's definitely reasons he turned out like this, but from like an in-universe perspective). Like this guy is chokeslamming your 15yo kid friend acquaintance and telling him he's the reason someone died and all you got is a weak "go easy on him"..? Not to mention introducing him as "this is my friend Miguel, he doesn't bite" (read: he's harmless) when he knows full well that Miguel has a strong and specific reason for hating Miles (he's an anomaly) that means he will likely reject Miles from the Society at best and mistreat him at worse.
They weren't helping him, they were capturing him, by different means.
@alucardsantradideus267 they shouldn't help Miguel all because he really is such an asshole
By all means, Gwen should've NEVER brought him into the society. But of course, she was following orders. No one can blame her but herself...
@@YangTheAcemiles fault for going into the portal that lead to mumbattan
I like the irony that at the beginning, Miguel tells Gwen "Join the club" and miles calls Miguel's base a clubhouse.
If you listen here 1:47 you can hear miles call out to Peter like he’s calling out for help to the only person he feels like he can trust which is peter. Also at 1:07 you can see miles glitch to his first suit from ITSV
damn the glitch to his first suit was a good catch
@@MaatStile yeah i actually noticed it when I first saw the movie back when it was still in theaters. Seriously the Spider-verse movies have given me a keen eye for spotting Easter eggs and details like that in movies now.
The “I’m sorry man… I’m going home.” line was a heavy hitter. Smh at Sony removing it.
At what point did he say it
@@manuelprime7881after he begins to blow away Miguel.
And I think it's implied in his plan so having that line would've been already redundant.
He says “I’m sorry Gwen” not “man” That’s why she’s so sadface after :((
@@DropBear_42No he says man not Gwen you can look it up
Top notch voice acting, the desperation in Miguel’s voice can be felt along with the insurmountable pressure of “with great power comes great responsibility”
3:04 - *Miles Morales:* Everyone keeps telling me how my story is supposed to go. Nah, I’m gonna do my own thing.
Sorry man, I’m going home
@@muttplayz3999 (Miles pushes Miguel with Venom Powers)
His face when he says that is so awesome!
Which doesn't matter, since no one tried to frame his life, even in this movie.
@@yalovoyhznepomnybut they did
I love how menacing Miguel is in this whole scene. The sheer desperation he shows even while trying to rip through the hardlight, to absolutely no avail.
THE LAST COLORS YOU SEE BEFORE HE JUMPS ARE RED AND BLUE MY NIGGA IS SPIDER-MAN 3:34
Omg ur a genius!!!!
Everyone quotes the “what’s up danger scene” as the scene that was their moment for Spider-Verse Miles and while it is a great scene, for me, THIS is the scene that was that moment for Spider-Verse Miles. Fully grown and developed as Spider-Man in my eyes and fixed the small nitpicks I had with him in the first movie and he’s really come a long way since the first film and completely butt fucked Miguel here 👌🏻 also Miguel telling Miles he didn’t belong here really rubbed me off the wrong way about Miguel 😒
Letting people to die just because it is part of the canon events doesn’t make you a hero.
@@a.jthomas6132 the fuck you talking about?? 😂 where in my sentence did I say that?? 😂 I don’t agree with Miguel fuck Miguel 😂
@@a.jthomas6132 To quote Stan himself: “That person who helps others simply because it should or must be done, and because it is the right thing to do, is indeed without a doubt, a real superhero.”
Miles-1610 LITERALLY did not belong. The spider who originally bit him was meant for Miles-42. Miguel deadass even says it in the clip that because it bit him instead, there was a universe completely deprived of its Spider-Man I.E. Miles-42. Even when Miles reveals himself to Rio-42 she doesn't even know who Spider-Man is. Despite it being completely out of his control, Miles being bit lead to Peter-1610 dying and Miles-42 becoming the Prowler instead.
@littledude7379 But that wasn't Miles fault. It was Kingpin who started the plan to create collider to bring alternative versions of his family to his dimensions, not caring for consequences. But even so, both Miles and Prowler Miles dimensions are intact. They are not getting erased like in Miguel case of so called "canon event" either Miguel isn't telling full story or is missing the point.
That damn giant spider teleporting machine creeps me out. It reminds me of the flying squid robots from The Matrix😂
3:11 this scene and then the miles away gave me such a strong adrenaline rush that my entire body contracted oh my God this film is a masterpiece
Miguel REALLY needs a vacation, too much work and stress is not good for one man.
He is trying to bring balance to the multiverse, and stop Miles from making the same mistake he did, he tryed to be reasonable with Miles and he didn't listen
@@dreamwalker2865but he’s doing it in all the wrong ways. Like he does not know how to properly communicate with someone in a stressful situation. “You’re a mistake!” “You don’t belong here. You never did.”
Keeping Miles imprisoned in his dimension instead of killing him was mercy and inspite of his reckless and careless behavior, Miguel tried to calmly be reasonable with him and warn Miles of the consequences, Miguel even told him his tragic backstory about breaking the canon and Miles didn't listen, and now Miles has exhausted Miguel's patientice, I call that being be reasonable.
Miguel is trying to keep Miles from tearing his universe apart.
@@dreamwalker2865yea...Miles is fickung stupid
Can we talk about how epic the soundtrack was for this movie, and especially this scene? The music elevates this scene to another level.
I blame everyone Keeping secrets
And having their crush turned their backs on you just because they think it is for your own good. I was like : "Seriously Gwen! Who gives you the right on who lives and who dies? Just because Miles is an anomaly doesn't mean he is the caused of the Multiverse threat. If an innocent man like your old man is about to die very soon would you do something about it or sit back and do nothing? If neither you, Pete or everyone gets the concept, then neither every damn one of you gets to wear the mask!"
Thank you!!!!!
They all in their own ways crossed the line, man!…..CROSSED THE LINE!!!!
In the next part that will come out in 2025, they will save him and he will tell them: Get out of here, I will never forgive you for this, you betrayed me
@@a.jthomas6132Thing with Gwen is that she felt that by telling him she would hurt him worse.
Once you realise that Miguel took the venom blast like it was nothing, and that same venom blast takes out heavy ppl like rhino, damn.
You know since Miguel is also a vampire he’s technically both Batman and Spider-Man at the same time
He’s not a vampire at all lol he’s literally half man half spider; he has a venomous bite
What kind of spider has claws to climb and bite as if he was a lion? He has no spider webs either, so it doesn't make Miguel much of a Spider-Man.
@@kevingarcia6368most spiders have these little spike like things on their legs to help them stick to walls (most insects do). And they have fangs to bite and induce venom. That’s what Miguel’s fangs do as well.
Miguel got his dna spliced with a spider's when he was trying to get rid of his addiction to a drug. A addiction that would have faded on its own miguel just was in a rush and a guy activated the device which spliced his dna.The fangs are spider fangs where if he bites you it injects a venom that paralyzes you temporarily
Not a vampire
Can we just appreciate how incredible this is. Literally hundreds of Spiders chasing him and he successfully escapes from every single one of them.
Keeping secrets from you by your love interest and letting your own father to die is the worst kind of betrayal a protagonist like Mile Morales had ever experience.
I like how Peter is lowkey proud of him “I guess he did plan this out 🙂”
this sequence is one of the best sequences in cbm history chillssss
U can see the guilt and regret on gwen and peters face. Then Miguel going full rage monster.
They all in their own ways Crossed the line, man!…..CROSSED THE LINE!
@@Otisboy121yep at that point u know Peter and Gwen know they messed up in trusting Miguel and not telling miles.
The fight scene is amazing in and of itself but the morality comes into play with it. Miguel is fighting with a burning anger because he sees Miles as being an abomination and to a certain extent he's right since it wasn't his spider to be bitten and he has to deal with canon events playing out or risk destroying the mulitiverse. Then you got Miles who's not even asked for any of this and is fighting to belong in the reality he was drawn into and to save his Father from dying. Stakes like that don't come along too often but when it does...wow.
This whole movie looks like if a comic got animated perfectly
Even thoe miles sent Miguel flying this is a durability feat for Miguel so he can’t be underestimated because king pin couldn’t even move after he got hit wit the blast
2:32 really brings out Miguel’s emotions like you can feel it
This is one of the best animated movies of 2023.
Not really
...@@yalovoyhznepomny
yeah minus one was better
Why not?@@yalovoyhznepomny
@@Zilla123not an animated movie smart guy
If you look carefully during Miles...uh..."seizing," - 1:07 - You can actually see him in the original bootleg Spiderman costume he wore!
Glitching
1:31 Grade A Savagery right there
At 1:07 you can see the original suit flash during the glitch, man this series attention to detail is so good
Says a lot about how deep Miguel's words hit him.
Ik I saw it
It’s his life glitching before his eyes. He has to get home now!!!
Miguel is basically the TVa of the spiderverse movies
Right, this is the scene where I don’t get how people like Miguel. People have a literal crush on him because they think he looks hot. Mate, it’s not about the looks. The amount of betrayal this movie gave off really rubbed off on me. The hurtful words said to Miles and how he was treated and slammed on that train. I dispise Miguel because of this. The true mistake was Miguel.
When Miles said "no you're lying I'm Spider-Man " I legit thought Miles said " no you're right I'm Spider-Man " XD
I thought that too the first time I saw it in theaters…
The only thing that angers me is that Miguel is blaming miles for Peter Parker death and spot let him escape. Why don’t Miguel blame kingpin for the collider?
True it was his collider and the spot bought the spider there in the first place this whole is really his fault
@@isaiahwashington9782 exactly. That Miguel is a moron
It's not Miles' fault nor was it in his control without knowing the spider that bit him was from another dimension in the first movie. Miles had no knowledge about it back then.
@@kevingarcia6368 He’s honestly a victim of circumstance!
He doesn’t blame the Kingpin, because that would hit a little too close to home. Miguel essentially did what the Kingpin was trying to do by getting a new family from another dimension.
Gwens look at 3:40 when Miles jumps off the train. She saying in her head (Miles, he so cool)
it was honestly a crazy movie
And very dark.
Bold of you to assume you’re still his mentor Peter
What a scene! This scene has marked my brain so hard. I didn't know such a beautiful, well layered, well instrumented, well dialogued scene is even possible before! I am glad that this scene exist & we're able to watch this anytime is so pleasurable to me! ❤❤❤
3:57 I love the stealth scene 5:26 Hello!
is the dialogue " sorry man i gotta go home " at 3:15 removed from digital version 🤔
yes
3:17 MIGUEL IS NAKED
I love those three elbow attacks. It’s at 0:57.
"I'm pretty sure you know the rest jerk" - the best
0:54 1:04 if anyone’s the anomaly, it’s you, you stole a life that was never yours. 1:12-1:20 even if it’s true, you can’t blame him for it 1:22-1:25 he has nothing to do with that 1:26 you know there are other worlds out there were Miles Morales is Spider-Man 1:31 how dare you 1:34 you don’t know that 1:38 he died doing what was right 1:41-1:48 stop blaming him he didn’t ask for any of this 1:49-1:54 O’Hara, this isn’t about you 1:55 you didn’t give him a chance 2:31-2:33 and you’re not a hero you’re a fanatic 2:59 whether that spider was from his dimension or not O’Hara he is Spider-Man and you can’t take it from him
😈
Instead you crossed the line, man! CROSSED THE LINE!
Pavitr didn't get his powers from being bitten by a spider too. Spider-Byte, Spider-Rex, all the clones like Ben Reilly and Kaine Parker were not bitten either. The way you got your power means nothing. The problem with Miles is that he got his powers from an outside source.
And that's why I hate Miguel. He's acting like Miles is a bigger threat than the guy who could literally destroy everything
@@Mommy_Makima20 dude he is not omnipotent lol. He was not there to see Spot transform. No one had the time to brief him either. To him, Spot is just an another villain of the week anomaly.
If someone who wasn’t meant to be Spider-Man besting hundreds of those who were isn’t the biggest middle finger, than I don’t know what is 😂
6:14 This whole segment. No words were spoken, just subtle facial expressions between two black people
And he felt an internal confirmation so powerful he snatched his masked down without hesitation.
Also remember they have spidey senses in addition to the cultural senses.. So what he felt was a fact..
Like they got telepathy, or something. 😒
The spider people in these movies can just pair like Bluetooth devices
Mfw the characters that interacted for a total of 15 seconds suddenly have a telepathic bond
Miguel is so wrong. Miles didn't choose his fate. He's making the most of what happened. Fisk and Alchemex bridged the multiverse and brought the spider. Miguel is similar to Fisk and Scarlet Witch. He became obsessed with the family he couldn't have and took his anger out on some random kid. I guess being a dictator is his way of feeling in control. That's why Hobie dislikes him.
Hobie is trash, hes talking bs half of the time. And Miguel is not wrong, but also is not Miles fault, the spider shouldnt be on that universe on the 1st place. 1 Peter died thanks to that anomaly, then they fix a mess, but only on 1 universe, the only 1 keeping it up together was Miguel, he saved more lives than any other spider will ever do.
He stopped the collider which would’ve broke the canon in hundreds of dimensions even more than right now. And he’s on his way to stop the Spot, right now. Although, right now he’s a bit hogtied.
@@evanholloway1692 just because miles did a good job being Spider-Man in the first movie does not change the fact that he’s an anomaly and was not meant to be bitten by the spider. It’s not his fault but he’s not really supposed to be Spider-Man in his universe. He was supposed to have a normal life. And his Peter was supposed to live. But because of kingpin, Peter died and miles wrongfully became Spider-Man. Frankly in a way it was forced upon him. And it also doesn’t justify him willfully going out of his way to try to do something that he has been informed will tear the multiverse apart. After he already did it once earlier in the movie for saving someone else. Literally in the first movie he was told that the hardest part of the job is that you can’t save everyone. And that IS certainly the hardest part. He’s not accepting that and if he doesn’t learn to accept it soon, he’s gonna destroy the fucking multiverse. Arguing miles side is seriously no good here. Miguel even said to him “you’re choosing between saving one person, or saving a whole world. EVERY world.” (Literally every universe and every person that exists or could exist) but he’s being selfish and naive trying to save his own father. Believe me dude I get it. Nobody wants to stand by and watch their dad die. But if he tries to stop it, he’ll kill everyone. He’s not on the right side at all. Miguel is. It’s just Miguel is being very mean about it. But he tried being reasonable and miles continued to be an uncooperative little annoying pest about it.
@@MU74N7K1LL3R though i am surprised you made an essay about this. Miguel is wrong in a lot of ways. One, Miguel should accept the fact that replacing his dead-self was extremely wrong as it was not different to what Kingpin attempted. Two, Did you see Earth-42 shatter losing the spider or the Miles (currently the Prowler) who was supposedly Spider-Man didn't become one? Did you see the universe of Peter B losing because the reason for Mayday's existence is Miles? DUDE, 1610 (the "pest" miles' universe) or a lot of events in various universe being changed would already have been lost if Miguel's conclusion were true. Dude this movie has already shown that anything is possible and fate/destiny can still be changed. Miguel was simply an idiot for letting his emotions win.
Though i know you can't ALWAYS save everyone, regardless of that SPIDER-MAN ALWAYS TRIES.
Miles is so fucking powerful and awesome I fucking love it
nuh uh
The fact that Miguel blames miles for Peter death pretty much confirms…Miguel has not learned what made a Spider-Man yet. Because they know that they can’t save everyone and that people might die sometimes…but to not use that against themselves and to continue doing good
He's not wrong though, Peter died because of Miles being there in the first place. And let's not forget the planet without a Spider-Man. A whole planet. Dudes got a point. Whether you like it or not.
So people probably already noticed this, but that meeting between Miles's parents and the principal, Miles says that he wants to go to New Jersey to learn quantum physics, literally foreshadowing that he meets people (SPIDER-people) who can teach him what he wants to learn. also when Rio (Miles's mom) said to look out for her little boy, its foreshadowing Miles 42/Prowler 42's appearance. I think BTSV will have prowler miles and spider-mes team up with Gwen's team against the Spider Society and The Spot.
Did anyone get a feeling that Miguel is kinda a reflection of people who don't think Miles is Spiderman?
Yeah, he’s written in that way
He’s 100% meant to mock assholes. Of course, unlike 99.999999% of those people Miguel isn’t racist.
The writers confirmed that was their intention.
@@Pikatwig16where did they said that?
@@nosequenosecuanto In the video "Across the Spider-Verse Directors Discuss The Evolution of Miles & Gwen", around the 2:17 mark. (Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner)
1:32 My back! My back!
"Nah. I'mma do my own thing."
corny ass line for someone whos being willfully ignorant and going out of his way to do something he knows will destroy the entire multiverse and all that exists.
This film was the best film to come out of 2023 prove me wrong
The Boy And The Heron from Ghibli
Technically its KingPins Fault
True
This was the turning moment of the movie for me. Miguel is "practically" telling Miles to kill himself. then the others didn't told him he was an anomaly. Which I get them, because they found it unrelevant to him and didn't wanted to hurt Miles because they knew he would act this way. But Miguel... damn. He told Miles the truth about his existence, whispered into his ear like a villain telling the hero something hurtful heartbreaking and slamming him into the ground multiples times while blamming him for the reason off all the shenanigans happening consecutively. The dude may be a Spider Man, but he sure ain't no hero. In my eyes, he's nothing but a "cheap f**king knock-off".
Kinda an overexaggeration
I don't think he's telling miles to kill himself, Miguel could have easily killed him if he wanted to, just grab his throat while squeezing and poping his claws out, and it would be done, he's more telling him to not fuck the multiverse up more than it already has been by his existence.
Miguel should blame Spot (when Spot was a scientist) since he brought the spider from another dimension into Miles’ dimension.
@@nicholas-dv1mg Really? Then why did Miguel called a Miles a mistake? Is secretely Low Tier God or something?
@@YangTheAce if someone accidentally got pregnant and had a baby, the baby can be called a mistake, doesn't mean it should be killed by itself or other people
There's actually 2 worlds worth no Spider-Man to protect them, Earth 42 where Prowler Morales is, and Earth-76020 because that Universe's Peter quit being Spider-Man after 2 idiots made him push Indira "Indy" Daimonji turning the whole City against him. It's the Spider-Man TNAS universe.
0:01 they do such a great job of making Miguel feel like a monster compared to the rest of the spider people. He's got bladed weapons designed to cut and kill, unlike most of the others who just rely on their fists and webs. And just the way he moves like an animal, ugh such a well designed antagonist/nemesis.
Just imagine for a second if Miguel was able to reach miles he would've torn him to pieces
He is his own master now No one's writing his story but him
That’s very independent. I love it!
@@evanholloway1692 you liked it, really?
And he is about to destroy the multiverse.
Spider-Man:Across the Spider-Verse 🖤🕸❤️>>> Everything everywhere all at once. 💀
Miles really said nah I’d win 💀 3:09
4:55 easily one of my favourite scenes from the movie
agree and the music that comes when the red lines zip and make race car noises
Peter : miguel go easy on him.. Miguel : you don't belong here!!! You never did...!!!
I just realized that at 4:30 she clicks "no" to "System Shut Down" prompt
1:06 Yoooooooooooooooooooo never noticed that glitch!!!
Forget O’Hara. I say Miles should be Spider-Man 2099
MIGUEL STOP! THAT’S ENOUGH
O’Hara, You’ve gone way too far with that one! You crossed the line, Man!…..CROSSED THE LINE!!!!!!
The chock slam reminds me when kunckles did that to sonic .
Gwen and Peter closing their eyes shows pain for miles 2:40
1:30 1:54 YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT WASNT RACIALLY MOTIVATED 💀
There is literally no reason to believe Miguel is racist.
@@gagecole4913there's no reason to believe that this comment and others like it aren't just meming
Miguel is my favorite character because he like most spider men is defined by his trauma but this time his trauma is making him make wrong choices and making him a worse person as a result.
0:14 really gave me chills
1:56 already sense the simps coming in... Brace yourselves
Also I personally believe that Miguel, is WRONG! If Miles was an anomaly at all, his whole universe should’ve crashed and burned the second the Spider from Earth-42 bit our Miles, and the whole first Spider-Verse film wouldn’t have happened. Idk why Miguel hasn’t thought about that. Miles is Spider-Man 😤
Miles Earth corrected itself, that's why his Peter died. But yeah, Miguel's canon theory has holes. I find the whole thing with Miguel's daughter suspicious. I mean, he basically let his doppelganger die and took his place. We don't know if he told her, but it's shady. And that apparently Peter B. and Jess didn't question it is....odd.
@@blub1220 THAT is true, which is why I’m pointing it out that Miguel is wrong. How could Miles be an anomaly?? Breaking the canon doesn’t equal a destroyed Universe. At most it means that the universe can either correct itself or implode like we saw in Mumbattan, but even then, that wasn’t supposed to be the aforementioned Canon, because the spider still wasn’t from his dimension, and was never supposed to bite him. That Spider was meant for Earth-42 Miles instead, but it bit our Miles instead resulting in the first movie so even with that discrepancy, Miles can’t be an anomaly. He just can’t be. Also yes I agree the whole thing with Miguel is sus and it doesn’t sound like it’s the only time Miguel has tried this tbh. Like I don’t think we got the whole truth. I know that every Miguel in the multiverse can feel when another Miguel O’Hara dies, but how do we know this is the only time he tried taking another Miguel’s place?? He said it himself, “believe me I tried, and THE HARDER I TRIED, THE MORE DAMAGE I DID.” I mean you’re right! The truth is right there! lol
What about the miles of earth 🌎 42?
@@devindietz7798 he was also destined to be Spider-Man. Spot just brought the Spider to Miles’s earth of 1610 and bit him before it bit Earth 42 Miles
I feel like Miles would’ve become Spiderman even if the 42 spider didn’t bit him, the only question would’ve been when and how
That snitch line was funny
1:31 the only mistake I see is you, O’Hara. I suggest a new spider society leadership is needed and I move for “a vote of no confidence” in Miguel O’Hara as Spider-Man 2099 Vote for Miles Morales (Spider-Man 2099)
Canonically Miguel O'hara is not an error, unless he is an heir
I'm not sure this happen, but I would like to see a film about the society of spiders, their formation, activities, etc.😅
1:32 - I NEED THIS SUIT! It makes me a better Spider-Man! You just want it for yourself! 🖤😡
Im sorry but if you have total leverage over the fight the entire time you have your opponent pinned and they start calming down and smiling and talk back, how do you NOT know that they have a trick up their sleeve to escape? When Miles started talkin about making his own story while charging up his electric powers, Miguel shoulda seen it/feel it comng and reacted to it/beat Miles on the spot. A couple more Choke Slams woulda done it.
I think there are two reasons. one Miguel kinda underestimated miles, second Miguel wasn't trying to really hurt miles at best subdue him.
@@jesusgadea3589 Facts
He underestimated. He thought he defeated him not only physically but psychologically and by the time Miles was in his face about how he played him, he was trying to assess the situation but by that time Miles already got his hands on him.
Miguel can literally unalive Miles if he wanted to but he's not trying to do that. He wants Miles to stop running and turn himself in.
@@marlonquintana3466 According to the recent script of the movie, when Peter said to go easy on him, it said “But he can only see his prey” meaning he wasn’t holding back, maybe from killing him, but he wanted to hurt him badly. It’s also said he was going to kill the Vulture in the beginning of the movie meaning he has no problems killing anomalies.
1:39 every Spider-Man has to make a sacrifice to save someone even if it’s the people he loves and cares about
Yeah and in case you forgot, that includes miles trying to save his father. That’s the sacrifice he must make. And he’s refusing and still trying to save his father even though he knows it will destroy the multiverse.
2:29 at that point miguels being a jerk
Can't blame him though. You can't blame either of them tbh
but still. did he really have to slam miles multiple times
Technically you can. Miles couldn't have known this would happen because no one told him about this. That just makes Gwen look bad because she could have gotten it over with and told him.
@@complex2live I was talking about Miles and Miguel
@laishey2594 oh alright. Well, I can't blame him either. I can definitely understand Miguel here. He has gotten so routined in the multiverse that Miles screwing it up kind of fabricated everything. Still though, if Gwen would have told this to Miles, WHEN HE ASKED HER WHAT SHE WAS DOING, this entire thing would be avoided. I mean, Miles fought alongside people from many different universes, I think he would understand the multiverse a little bit
Im on Miles' side. Miguel is no god he doesn't decide who lives and who dies.
He never claimed he was a god. He’s stating that for a fact if you break the canon, you will destroy the multiverse. Miguel is not deciding, fate is, and miles being the result of already broken fate is now trying to still go out of his way and do even more damage to the multiverse for very selfish reasons. He can try to save his dad but if he does, not only will his dad still die, but literally everyone else in every universe as well.
Miguel: You don’t belong here. You never did. Me: Says a guy who doesn’t have any spider-sense.
Facts
Instead has claws
O’Hara definitely went way too far with that one! He crossed the line, Man!…..CROSSED THE LINE!!!!!!
Don’t need it when you have a healing factor.
@@AzulApeAnd heightened senses
"Everyone keeps telling me how my story is supposed to go." I don't think Miles parents and Miguel counts as "everybody" but I get the message
This Man calling miles a mistake, he’s got no right to say that when he’s not even a Peter Parker, hypocrite O’Hara. Neither is Gwen, or Spiderwoman obviously. So that comment doesn’t make sense.
i understand but he only said that cause the spider came from another universe not his own sad truth
prowler miles was the one to be bit but spot changed history
3:40 | What exactly did Peter teach Miles? What is Peter talking about and when did Peter teach him this?
He probably wants to credit himself from being the best mentor to miles.
He assisted miles in learning how to use his invisibility on command in the first movie.
Best scene of both movies IMO
3:40 | What exactly did peter teach Miles?