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The .300 Win Mag is versatile as the day is long - maybe more. Whitetails to brown bears and even professional work in the Mil/LE space, the .300 Win Mag has been there and done that. And it has done it well. Is its 60’s era belt out of fashion? Ask its resume of incredible performance. You’ll get your answer. Mark Boardman, Jim Hamilton, and Ryan Muckenhirn dive into the .300 Win Mag. Finally!
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Just returned from a Colorado elk hunt where my buddy ran a 300 Winmag 180 grain Federal power shock. One shot kill at 285 yards. I was next up to bat and harvested an elk at 320 yards with my 308 Winchester 165 grain federal fusion. Mine took two shots to drop her. “300 Winny has that dog in it.” Says my buddy.
Winchester actually had previously released the .264 Win Mag in 1959 along with the .338 Win Mag but with the concerns over barrel erosion the .264 never became popular. Then in 1962 Remington released the 7mm Rem Mag so then Winchester released the .300 Win Mag in 1963 so in a way the .300 was both a response to the failure of the .264 and as a response to the 7mm Rem Mag. The absolutely best shooting rifles that I've ever used was my late grandfather's old Model 70 .300 Winchester Magnum.
I do also find it funny that Ryan glossed over the fact the almost identical to 300 win mag 308 Norma mag had existed for 3 years prior to the Winchester creation.
@@ThatAngryJho-td3xe Yeah, the WinMag is a little, very little, faster with the same bullet, but they are so close. And it's basically the same cartridge design. Both are a shortened, necked-down, blown out, 375 H&H case.
I have a Browning 300 win mag. It's an absolute tac driver and it does not have a muzzle brake. If you are target shooting I slip on a limb saver, but hunting I don't use one and don't notice the recoil with coats on, adrenaline etc.. The 300 win mag is a go to cartridge for sure.
Great podcast and finally a 10 minute talk on America’s magnum. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Put it’s faster brother on life support 264 win that was decades before it’s time.
I've owned a Ruger #1 in 300 win mag for 30 years and its a tack driver , taken many whitetails out to 400 yards and most went down instantly ! Thanks guys for a great talk !
Finally! It's time for the 300 win mag! 🎉🎉🎉
300 Winmag Rules!
Finally a podcast about my absolute favorite round.. a lot of love here from Switzerland for the 300win mag.
Great podcast guys... Just gave one to my son-in-law for Christmas.... Love that caliber..
I just got my left hand Remington 700 .300WM back from my gunsmith. I had a new cold hammer forged barrel put on it. It was a tack driver before and now I can do 3 shots in one hole.
What brand barrel? I’m seriously thinking of building one and then this video comes up, I’m taking it as a sign 😂
Love all these great cartridge talks lately, any hope for an episode on the Ruger no.1 soon?
I'll second that. Would be a nice compliment to these, do episodes on the firearms that shoot said cartridges.
Great idea
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You have made my day. Thank you for your work and passion. Next the 338 Lapua!!!!
I wondered for quite some time if you had forgotten about the .300 WM or simply wrapped it into the .300 WSM.
My favorite round .300 win mag . I really enjoyed this video
I’m so happy this episode finally happened!😊
I own one 300 win mag, it was a custom build. I thought I needed a 300 PRC, so I bought a Bergara Premier. That 300 win mag will out shoot the Bergara hands-down. Even shoots the same bullets at higher velocity with less powder. Must be some magic the gunsmith did when he chambered it.
The 300 win mag set some thousand yard records how many has the 300 PRC set? Enough said! If buying a NEW 300 PRC but I wouldn’t get rid of my 300 win mag’s to get a PRC!
Unless you are talking about a 26 or 28 inch barrel on your custom, I'm gonna have to call bullshit. And saying it shoots the same bullets faster with less powder is completely ignorant
@@ChronicalsofAl I'll Grant it's a 26 versus a 24 inch barrel, but 76 grains of h1000 pushes a 215 burger at 2970 out of my 300 Win Mag. 77.7 grains h1000 pushes a 215 Burger out of my Bergara 300 PRC at 2950. Ignorance is speaking without knowing what you're talking about. The chamber in a 300 PRC is bigger than the chamber in the 300 win therefore you will generate more pressure with less powder in a 300 Winchester Magnum, generating higher velocity with less powder. Think before you speak it's less embarrassing that way
@@biggs8729 ok, then I'll eat crow for lunch tomorrow!
Even though I see a lot closer to 2700fps when using 75gr of h1000 in my rem 700 24" throwing 212gr eld-x's, so I'm not embarrassed. That 1gr of powder and the 2" of extra barrel must be magic!
Great conversation. Killed a lot of African plains game with my 300wm. Has performed faultlessly - including a duiker. The taxidermist was very happy with the neat holes in it.
Jim said, “wanna see a pronghorn explode?” I lost it 🤣🤣😂😂
All of these cartridge talks are great, but a even better one would be 7mm saum!
Gentlemen, I just came across your channel and I must say I love it! I love to sit around with gun nuts and talk guns. Keep up the great work!
300 wm performance is impressive. 👍
I've been shooting the 300WM since I was 12 in 1982, first through a Parker Hale w/mauser action, then later in a Browning A-Bolt II w/Boss. I never miss with it and never had to shoot twice.
Very much enjoyed this video. Back in the 90’s I bought a BAR 300 safari. Mounted a scope on it,sighted it in then hung it on the wall! Way toy pretty of a gun to take into the woods Lol just a joy to shoot being an autoloader-lack of recoil 😉. A few years back I bought the Mk3 nickel finish 300Wsm. Same deal as the other-scope,sight in and hang it on the wall by its older brother ! Beautiful guns Also,loved hearing the comment “Wrist Rocket” I still have mine which I bought in the 80’s. It’s the OG non folding style. And yes that is also up on the wall lol Great job guys! Happy New Year 👍🏻
I had a Ruger No 1B in 300WM for many years,never fired a factory round thru it,always handled for it,and it was pretty easy to load for.Finally settled on 200gr Partition going 3050 fps.I loved that gun and shot it well,but it was a bit heavy.For some unknown reason I decided to sell it,and regretted it ever since.I want to buy a new bolt action in 300 WM but haven't decided on one yet.Great round,wouldn't hesitate to hunt anything on this continent with it,except brown bear in the thick stuff,but if the country was a little more open,no problem.Also wouldn't hesitate to take it to Africa.I think a 180 all copper bullet would take anything there that was legal with no problem.Love it!! Keep em coming guys.
My 300 WM is a late Ruger 77mk2 stainless with a zeiss conquest 3-9 scope. It in its original no frills stock, I bead blasted the barrel and action to knock the shine down, even with the heavier barrel profile it's just under 8 pounds and shoots the 165 Barnes tsx into half inch groups all day long... I did add a limbsaver pad and I stoned the factory trigger, it's the perfect lightweight go anywhere shoot anything rifle in my opinion.
Nice. I have a pair of Ruger M77 MkIIs in 300 WM. One being the classic blued walnut version and the other being the SS synthetic version.
Solid option for sure, not getting rid of my 300 Wby for one tho, love the Mark Vs. Only thing I’m envious of is the price for Win Mag vs Wby ammo. 😅
Finally at last, the best of the best
Deep down, every 30-06 guy wants a 300 win mag.
Yep….
not this guy
And all their children shoot a 300 PRC, cause its just better. (Missle strike)
Hahaha I handload for two howa 30-06s, and yes I'm always comparing the performance i get to the 300 win mag....my load is a 225 eldm at 2650fps from both their 22" barrels...that's 3500ftlbs.... definitely knocking on the 300s door.
Yeah not this guy either… my 3006 is basically the perfect cartridge for not destroying deer meat. My uncles 7mm rem mag blows shoulders off lol, so I can only imagine what the 300 win mag does.
Excellent video. That backpack story at 15:00 is hilarious. I got an elk in NM back in October, and for the pack-out I used a Mystery Ranch, guide used an Exo Gear, and this Apache kid that came with us brought a Jansport bookbag and wore Twisted X moccasin shoes -- hilarious! 🤣 That kid was tough. I took the elk at around 100 yards with a 308 with 168 berger hybrid hunter, but it did take 2 shots. My 300 win mag with 180 grain corelokt has never needed a second shot except on black bear (to avoid loss in NC thickets).
I commented on the last 7mm video and again I will say I have a Tikka 300 win mag western super lite shooting a 200 grain Hornady Precision hunter and it kills all day long I am not a long shot guy but I will shoot this set up at 500 yards and feel confident.I think the deal with 7mm and 300 is that like you said ammo is available in many cartridges and the people who love the PRC brands will ultimately have to be hand loaders.The reason I say that is I live in Canada and it just fuckin hard to find good ammo.thanks for the videos and I am a huge Vortex consumer as well Happy New year
I’ve heard some say that the belt adds support to the case head during pressure but I’ve also heard some say that it’s so little added strength that it’s negligible. Can you guys shed some light on this. I’m skeptical of how much support it could add. I’ve always thought it was for headspacing ever since I learned what headspacing was, even though the .300 Win Mag headspace’s off the shoulder. I guess it’s just kind of a holdover from the .375 H&H that it was based on. I’ve never had the privilege of shooting a .300 Win Mag… I don’t hunt but I do have a .30-06 that my dad left me. He didn’t hunt either but just had one to have a rifle to shoot for recreation. I honestly never thought the recoil of that was anywhere near what it was made out to be. I’ve heard many people (who aren’t really gun people) mind you complain about the recoil of .30-06 or larger but for my money, it’s not bad at all. The heaviest recoiling thing I’ve ever felt were 3 1/2in magnum slugs from a friend’s gun and high brass 2 3/4in turkey loads which I still have a couple of. They’re downright unpleasant to shoot. In my experience they kick significantly harder than 00 buck or slugs in standard length shells.
Negligible. Still best to determine max pressure by measuring case head expansion. Keep it to half a thou or less. Brass lasts, you don't trim as often(if you bump the shoulder correctly), and you give up very little performance.
@@diggernash1 Got it. Yeah I wasn’t ever really convinced that it could add a significant amount of structure to a case.
It was for headspacing the H&H round, adds zero to the strength of the cartridge case and not necessary for headspacing the wm...
The 300 WinMag is so powerful. They had to add a belt around it to keep it from blowing out at the bottom. At least that’s what they used to say to sell more cartridges. The belt was just to help with head spacing and though adding material at the base to the shell, is going to add some strength, I Think it would be so minimal that it’s not worth even considering.
Great talk! Bring us the 7 SAUM soon please!
My first book on long range shooting was written by Ryan Cleckner, formerly of the 1st Ranger Battalion 75th Ranger Regiment in the GWOT. He carried the M24 in .300 WM. He could dial distance on elevation from DOPE. Then, he would the crosshairs left or right edge of target zone into the wind and get a hit. This worked to about 500 yards. Most engagements were 300 yards or less. I have a colleague who swears by the .300 WM for deer and I know he took an Aoudad Sheep with it. So, even though my do all cartridge is the sizzling 7 mm PRC, I could also see the .300 WM as the go to. In fact, the 7 PRC is comparable to the .300 WM.
They should have included marketing perspective on this cartridge. It would give good insight to new cartridges and how they are born. Weatherby is the one that started the magnum craze. There were powerful magnums for elephant hunting already but Weatherby induced magnumitis to the common hunter. Remington and Winchester jumped onboard and guys were studying ballistics charts better then they ever studied anything in school and the arguments began. 7 mm rem mag guys said it shoots flatter that the 300 win mag and the 300 win mag delivers a bigger punch. Gun writers such as Craig Boddington were all about use enough gun. He touted the 8mm rem mag at the time and he unlike most people traveled and had exotic hunts where it made sense to use a cartridge that would give an advantage in case the shot placement wasn't perfect. Many hunters jumped onboard as they were young had their whole lives ahead of them and thought they too would travel to Africa, Alaska, or wherever and needed to buy one of these. Very very few ever did go on a guided hunt away from home and found out they could get buy just fine with the 99 savage in 300 savage that was in the closet. Lazeroni came out with his cartridges and then Remington and Winchester popped off with the short magnums and Ultra magnums. At one time the 300 savage was considered good Elk medicine and the 30 06 was even better. Gun manufacturers, and ammunition makers alike deliberately get in the heads of sportsmen blurring the line between want and need. Sure there are real benefits to the magnums and they have a place but just like the knife guys who practice handling them and swinging them around wanting the balance of the knife to be just right, they likely will never need them. Now there is a big push for the long range hunting fad where people are taking unethical long shots at game animals and the gun, equipment, and ammo companies are raking in the big bucks. Do you want to feed this thing?
I skipped -06 and went from .308 to 300 Win Mag... I'm on my third rifle in that chambering and still have 2 in the safe. One is set up for hunting, the other is a long range race car. It is my favorite caliber hands down.
What a way to follow up the 7mmRM cartridge talk!
I have 2 - Interarms MX and a TC Encore. I hunt almost exclusively with the single shot with full confidence one shot will do it. 165 gr Barnes punches through every thing and my recoil on the TC is not noticeable to me when hunting. Blacktails whitetails, elk, and pronghorns with 300WM. And I suffer from buying rifles such as 6.5 CM and now 7mm PRC that I have yet to hunt with. There is no blowing apart any animal regardless of size. Adding the 165 pokes through the magical 3000 fps with some ease and barrel replacement for my encore is really easy if needed.
My DRT (Dead Right There) Rifle, Remington 700 BDL in 300 WM. 180 grain Barnes TSX at just over 3100. Deer, elk and several black bear. Never been able to recover a bullet. Always complete pass through. Had one bear that ran about 15 yards with 2 chambers of his heart blown open before he piled up. I started out with a Remington 721 in 30-06 and then a Ruger M77 300 WM, then this 700. That was in the mid 90's. I haven't looked back and it's never left me wanting. That combo dropped a mule deer buck at 837 lased yards and a cow elk at 812 lased yards. A Hogue stock helps with the recoil quite a bit. Highly recommended.
I got a Browning x-bolt in 300wm and I love it with 180gr ttsx 🥰🥰🥰
I think it would be interesting to do a cartridge comparison between the 300 Savage and the 308 Winchester. Pretty similar but the fact that the Savage came out almost 30 years earlier is impressive
I love my 300, ruger m77 mark ii, have it bedded, trigger lightened and added weight to it. The gun with total package weighs 12lbs even and balanced. My favorite, I named her sundown for a very good reason.
338 Win Mag next please. Parent case to the 7RM
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My first brand new deer rifle was a Ruger 77R 300wm back in 1986. It was way overkill for whitetail but I loved it.
Love everything you do fellas ,but,..... STILL waiting on my .358.
FIREARMS ANONYMOUS. My name is Todd, and like Ryan M., I am a rifleaholic. My addiction is classic wood stocked bolt action hunting rifles. Keep in bar / safe a Ruger .243, a gorgeous custom Mauser action 6 MM Remington, Howa .25-'06, Savage .270, Howa 7 MM Rem Mag, Howa .30-'06, and a classic Browning BAR in .300 Win Mag. I live in Tucson and hunt the Southwest. Do I need to fill in the glaring .264 / 6.5 MM caliber gap? Of course not. And I do have two fine Swedish Mausers in the original 6.5, one a rifle, one a carbine. Yet do I sit alone in the dark wringing my hands and trying to stay away from Gun Broker . . . Yep. I thought Ryan might be a good Sponsor until he referenced the phrase "better to have and not need than to need and not have." Hmm, maybe just a sip of a classic Savage 110 in 6.5 PRC . 😢
The cartridge talks and lead balloons are my favorites but videos about specific models of firearms or even hunting certain game species could be cool video ideas.
Any chance you guys do a video on the 308 Norma Magnum?
Would you guys be interested in doing a head to head of the rimfire magnums 22MAG VS 17HMR. Along with a 17HMR history spiel similar to the 22MAG. Also maybe throw in a ballistic test to show the differences. I enjoy listening to you guys and how in depth the conversations get. Keep it up.
I am excited 😁. I pick up my Tikka Hunter 300 Win Mag next week...Hi from Australia guys , love your talk ... CHEERS!!!
I would love to hear you guys talk about the 300 wsm
My Savage 111 300 win mag only gun I have that I literally have a love hate relationship with for deer and my shoulders and jaw it's a burger maker but it's so accurate with cheap ammo power points and power shock ammo shoot under moa at 120 every time
bought the S20 in 300wm. very happy with it. wish it was a little lighter. 10.1 lbs scoped........but i can handle the recoil all day with this gun. shot it out to 600. shot very well, 5 shot 5.5" group 200 gr. hornady eldx. took a bull elk this fall at 290 with it. great review by the way
The most shootable 30 cal cartridge with most downrange energy is the 300 Win Mag with a 190gn Berger VLD. Not overly punishing recoil and hits hard far away. IMO 👍👍
I just picked up a model 70 in 300 wm and love the gun. It kicks pretty good but at 100 yards with factory ammo I have sub moa grouping. Can’t wait for my elk hunt this fall
I was just looking for a video from this channel on 300 win mag last night
If Ryan does that bison hunt the 45-70 will go. There’s something rewarding about taking the same game out great grandfathers did with a cartridge out great grandfathers used. Great video guys so many options for calibers so many great choices.
I was going to get a .300 win mag. They didnt have one in left handed for me at the gun store when i went browsing. Instead they had a .338 win mag in left handed. I decided in getting that instead and i love it.
My beloved 300 win mag!
My first high-powered rifle was a Remington 700 chambered in 7mm Remington Magnum, and at the young age of 10 I became a fan of the belted magnum. Somewhere around after 25 years and countless adventures with that old 700 that stacked deer like cord wood had passed, my dad asks me, "Matt (Hill Country Rifle) says he's shutting down production for the year and wants to know if we want a rifle built beforehand, so what caliber do you want?" I was not in a position at that time to be able to afford such an investment, and I told him so. His response, "I didn't ask if you could afford it, I asked what caliber you want." The 300 WSM hadn't been out long, and was gaining steam so I kicked that idea around for a moment, but, gentlemen, I couldn't imagine a caliber more befitting of what became my favorite build than a .300 Win Mag, and I never looked back. Over the last 20 years I have smoked monster porkers with that rifle on Brian Quaca's stompin' ground, hunted the vast bean fields and infinite power lines of SC, the black belt of Alabama, Hill Country Texas, and all sorts of places in between with that rifle, and it has never failed me. It doesn't ask questions, and it doesn't make apologies, but it is a tack driver, and will put meat on the ground if you can hold on for the ride. Each of my family seem to have their own pet cartridges, but the 300 Win Mag has to some degree become "the family cartridge", and, in my humble estimation, it truly is the king of the belted magnums. Thanks For this video, guys, it was quite enjoyable!
I got my first rifle in Ruger Mark ‼️ stainless steel All Wether inn 300 win mag is my favorite caliber I just got new round for Elk and Deer 300 PRC but still like the 300wm what it can do and price for ammunition 🤔 and to repack my own rounds is mucho cheeper to make. In the high Desert I need yards and energy at 500 yards if I need it with no trees the deer will see you from a mile away. I don't like muzzle brakes at all just don't see the point is so loud for one shot hunting and the range don't like the concussion of it doesn't feel good and the person next to you Damn they feel it. My son has one one his LR-6.5 is on a small round is loud. Great show on 300 win mag.
Hi, i own an old Sako in .264 win mag and would love to hear you discuss this cartridge. Greetings from Scandinavia.
Love the Christmas cartridge talks thank you gentlemen, but still waiting on that .35 Rem😢.
Also Jim please get you and the guys to do a deeper dive on the 280AI
Got a Savage 116 in 300 wm. Aside from the light plastic stocking making the recoil stupid-violent, the cartridge itself is very impressive. Used it on elk, deer, and even a pronghorn. With the right bullet and placement it can take thin-skinned game without significant meat loss. At the same time it can drop elk and moose. Probably a bit light for big bears but everything else on the continent is in real trouble inside 500 yards.
You gotta stop man, you need to get help 😂 🤣 i was rolling
I do like them. Never owned one and thought about getting one in a tikka t3x . But that will probably be my next one. Have to get the 6.5 creed lined out first . Then probably the 257 wby mag. Then, hopefully, after that, I will get one or a 338 win mag. Not sure yet.
I bought a t3x in 300 win and it shoots excellent. I bought for the weight, it dose have some recoil but I’m a hunter and don’t punch paper often. Don’t think you will be sorry.
2nd that! I also have the T3x in .300winmag and have taken antelope to elk with it. Swapped out the original pad for a limbsaver and added the more vertical pistol grip. Recoil is no issue to me. Using 200 grain eld-x has made for clean, non explosive kills out to 500yd. I love it.
Just bought a Bergara Mountain 2.0 in 300 win mag 5 minutes ago. Funny timing, I'll take that as a good sign. I am moving from Florida to Alaska and think it will serve me well. p.s. "ITS NOT A TUMOR!" @8:20 lol.
Random request, 45 Raptor or another AR10 type wildcat. 308, 6.5 creed, 243, 8.6BLK, etc. are nice, but BIG BORE is obviously better.
In regards to recoil... I'm shooting a new Ruger African in 300 with the factory brake and it kicks less than my dad's old Remington 700 in 30-06 which weighs at least a couple pounds more than the Ruger! I still need to try it without the brake but it's so comfortable to shoot now. I was exciting a destroyed shoulder but my turkey shotgun is worse than this cartridge.
I own a 300 Winchester little over 18 yrs I don't shoot as much mostly 30.06 and 270 is better for my needs but 300 mag is great for moose and elk hunters thanks for sharing
I have 308, 30-06, and a 300 win mag. The 308 hsquvarna and 30-06 remington both came from both my grandpa's. And i can say with alot of faith that whatever i hit with my 300 win mag that i bought in general, will get the job done, or put the hurt on due it verisitility and power. I believe there is a sweet spot or balence between using the 30 caliber bullet. And even when used in WW2 for the first time.
I live in Utah and love my 300 win!! It’s a great mule deer and elk gun.
Look up the 300 wby mag, its far better, and what most elk hunters in utah use
@@ARES11784 I have killed four elk with it and have never felt that I needed more power. The weatherby is a great cartridge but it’s over a hundred dollars a box. No thanks I’ll stick with my 300 win mag.
@ARES11784 do you personally know all of the elk hunters in Utah? I promise you there are more 300WM than Weatherby. Also it is not far better. You sound like a young kid.
@@jonathancole6124 It can fire the same projectile 800 fps faster than any winmag loading. Look up the facts before trying to sound cool on the Internet. You sound like an old woman
Cartridge talk on 5.7x28, 8mm Rem mag, 30-378wby. Love the show
I've got a Winchester '85 in 300mag with a Vortex Viper PST 5-25x50, and it is pretty dang minty.
I wanna know what wsm is the best and I want it compared to modern offerings in the prc load. Make it as long of an episode as needed.
Great western cartridge. I/ve used it for a while and hunted antelope to black bears, You can always find ammo for it. First choice for my elk hunts.
I like the 30/06 and the 300 win mag i have used both in Texas for all deer 30/06 cant be beat but if you have a chance to shot axis or nilgai i would use the 300 win mag
The 300 Winchester magnum was born the same year as I am that being said I guess I like 30 caliber magnums I have a 300 Winchester magnum and a 300 H&H and a300 WSM and a 300 Remington Ultra magnum I haven’t gotten to use the 300 WSM or my 300 H&H on elk yet but the 300 Winchester magnum and the 300 Remington ultra magnum I have used for elk and it is the only one I had to get a muzzle break put on it and it does a good job on elk you don’t have to shoot them more than once but 300 Winchester magnum gets the job done to with authority
Bought a model 70 brand new and the nobler 165gr did not fit in the mag when loaded for group shooting!!! An awesome rifle but the mag box was too short
I had to mill out for my hand loads also.
Was going to buy a 300 Win Mag in a Bergara rifle but I ended up buying a 300 PRC in a Christensen Arms mesa LR and I’m glad I did I handload and getting away from belts and being able to shoot really heavy projectiles. I’d take the PRC over the Win mag now.
I have both a 256 win mag and a 300 win mag. Heck of a difference between them. Maybe 256 win mag episode eventually?
I bought my first .300 last summer, exhilarating, to say the least.
Can you do a comparison between .300 Win Mag and .308 Norma Mag?
Subject idea: perhaps cover the logic of light fast bullets, vs long heavy bullets, couple with efficiency and on target energy. Maybe help some guys understand cartridge selection and design, and why the 1960's rounds are fundamentally different than modern PRC style cartridges.
yes
Seen a lot of moose in AK and the Yukon Territory but only a couple were huge bulls. And i mean huge! Some big cartridges up there, especially since they harvest bison...
300 win mag a mountain to mountain cannon! Best round ever!
Ryan, remember your 3006 with the Barnes copper bullet its right in the middle with manageable recoil.
Like you guys touched on, the 60's really were a magical time in firearms. On one side, you had the classic European firearm/cartridge developers, the safari gun makers like H&H, Kynoch etc, still being relevant but at the same time starting to fade away with the collapse of European colonial holdings. Propellants had also made huge jumps during WW2- consider the M1 Carbine and .30 Carbine as the first cartridge specifically requiring that it's loaded with non-corrosive powders- reducing the need for the sloping, rounded, art nouveau cases like .375 H&H that needed to be that way to pack properly with cordite. Similarly, on the US side, a lot of people were still loading their own cartridges, and you had gunwriters who were actual madmen and gunsmiths, think Cooper, Ackley, Keith and O'Connor. But perhaps most importantly, there was a lot of people who'd be trained in firearms manufacturing due to the war, plus a shitload of surplus- both in terms of dirt cheap, high-quality actions flooding the market and surplus machine tools while the sword makers switched back to plowshares. These new people, also, had mostly been trained on what we now consider standard bullets- the jacketed spitzer on top of smokeless- bringing a new set of eyes to a set of development that had been mostly controlled by black powder and the "Nitro express" crowd. And then, just to tie it all together, you've got European riflemakers absolutely willing to do whatever some American asks for as long as he's got the cash to keep their companies afloat, and NATO's effectively unlimited military budget. It was literally the absolute perfect playground for cartridge development. Also, hell yeah for keeping the Carl list in the background.
Dad Strength for the win.
Browning BLR used to come in .450 Marlin. What a brute.
Best all around hunting catridge with a lot factory offering.
If you can handle the recoil or tame it with a brake, 300 win mag is probably the best all around cartridge. 300 weatherby and up get to be too big and you start asking too much of the bullets with that much speed. I moved to the WSM master race mainly because I have a Tikka, but the winny killed several big game animals for me very well. 200 grain eld-x at 2950 was no slouch. Knocked a muley down at 660 with it.
I have been hunting reloading and collecting rifles for 60+ years and 30 years of hunting with the 300wm when they first came out. My father bought one in a pre64 which was only made one year in the pre64’s It killed any elk or deer with such great authority. In the standard magnums the only 2 that are as good is the 300wsm and the 7 rem mag. Have owned hundreds of rifles over the years mostly bolt action rifles and found those 3 cartridges will go it all in North America except the big bears!
Computers became more common in business during the 1960s. Think about the paradigm shift when engineering designers go from slide rules to computing power. There are areas where I miss the results of old design processes, such as boats. However, ballistics are fairly straightforward calculations. As an aside, I’m glad I’m not the only one who sometimes thinks “You gotta stop man. You need help…” 😜
I still carried the M3 Grease Gun while in the Armored Cav in the early 80s to early 90s. Not at all accurate but easy to carry and maintain.
7x57 Mauser
I have 3 rifles I actually use. A savage .22 for small game, my savage tactical in .308, and my Remington 700 in 300 win mag. The rest just collect dust tbh
Kris Kyle said if he only had 1 choice, it would be 300WM.
I still shoot a 300 win mag with the 215 berger Hybrids at 2915 fps. Its not the fastest out there but it will do just about anything. The next 30 cal magnum I build will be a 300 norma improved.
I built a 6lb, 300 RUM😮. All carbon with TI Summit action. It's threaded, but no brake. It thumps, but I don't care. I built it for Black Bear in big cuts. I may brake it, using hearing protection. I built a 6.5lb 375 Ruger, and that thumps even more without a brake. Right at my recoil threshold off the bench! I've started another build. A do most gun out to 400. It will be a lightweight with 20-inch barrel. No brake. My idea is light for the mountains, short for black timber, and able to take deer, hogs, black bear, moose, and elk, come what may. Despite recoiling, I want more than enough gun. I was going with the 7 PRC, but I am now favoring the 300 Win Mag. The 7 better in the wind, but I kind of think 30 cal and up frontal area might be better on bigger game. I know both rounds will lose velocity, but I believe they'll still outperform non-magnums. This vid is pushing me towards the old 300😅