A week after Mikko Rantanan called out Artturi Lehkonen's dad, we now have Devon Toews calling out his team in one of the most brutally honest ways I've seen. The Colorado Avalanche rolled into Chicago to play a Blackhawks last placed team on a 4 game losing streak, a club they should beat. Yet, it didn't exactly play out that way. Bedard had a great game, Mrazek played well and the Avalanche just couldn't stay out of the box in the 3rd period hurting themselves bad. Miles Wood got a game misconduct, Johansson got a late period penalty after MacKinnon was hit hard by Blackwell that caused a scrum and led to Johansson getting a misconduct as well. All of this led to a postgame interview unlike many. Devon Toews flat out called out his team mates saying only 14 of 20 guys are playing how they should adding "It’s frustrating to… play out there when you got guys that think they’re playing well and they’re doing things that, you know, you have no idea what play they’re gonna make”. I cover it all in todays NHL hockey video!
0:00-1:02 Intro
1:03-2:48 Game Recap
2:49-4:32 Devon Toews Interview
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What are your thoughts on Toews doing this? I added time stamps if you're wanting just the interview @2:48!
My thought is this, why did you put the wrong timestamp? The interview starts @3:06.
@@user-ej1dh3hb6l Big deal. get over it. Can't all be 100% perfect at all times like you.
As a hardcore Avs fan I appreciate Toews willingness to say they suck. They need someone to say something cuz he’s right they are living in a fantasy world not respecting the effort needed to play. Good on him
As you said your a hardcore Avs fan so it’s going to be hard for you to look at this objectively but there was a million better ways to say and do this but he chose to talk shit to a reporter instead of communicating directly with whatever teammate he’s referring to. I’m not really sure that’s deserving of your appreciation
@@sayhello2heaven_what’s to say these conversations haven’t already happened before he spoke with the reporter? You in the Avs locker room??
@@brendenrodgers7821 that would make it much worse imo. Thinking you’re being confided in by your teammate just to be blown up to the media 5 minutes later. Either way it still paints Toews as a pretty shitty teammate.
@@sayhello2heaven_The truth hurts. Cry about it. Us Avs fans appreciate Toews' honesty.
Came here to say exactly that. I’m an Avs fan too and good on Toews for saying this. They need someone to step up and ground them. I just feel there’s no leadership on the team at the moment. I love Mack and makar but I just don’t see them being the type of players to dish the tough love to their teammates (likes captain would do) to try and rally the troops. At least not yet for makar. Avs are a freakin powerhouse but they need a captain to really bring the team back to earth by saying the things they may not always wanna hear.
Elliot Friedman always says that we complain when hockey players give boring boiler plate answers that have no real substance only to then freak out and criticize them for being honest. Which do we want? Players being honest like Toews just was or do we want the same old boring script? I prefer the former.
FINALLY! A sane person! Everyone else is crying about Toews speaking the truth.
True or not it’s more entertaining. Also think it’s somewhat healthy to call out your teammates and challenge them to be better. Maybe not through the media
As a Devils fan, that was our biggest gripe with Wood. He took too many unnecessary penalties at bad times.
I'm happy you mentioned this - I think Wood is one of the players Toews was reffering to. Love the guy and his abillity to fly around the rink, but MAN sometimes the guy leaves our D hanging out to dry.
So true, down by one and running out of time, the last thing needed is a penalty. It’s just not smart hockey
Avs, kraken, and devils for life
is Meier any better?Lol. Probably yes, at making better money...
@@sst6601 Meier is a whole other can of worms lol. I don’t have a clue what’s going on there, but he’s looking real bad with this system
He's saying what a coach ought to say. Good for him.
As an avs fan I'm glad that toews is saying this.
The Avs are definitely not as strong as they were 2 years ago. Don't forget, not having Landeskog on the ice is a huge loss.
No Landy, Kadri or Erik Johnson really hurt this team and it shows
it's not the extra curricular activity he's referring to. it's the on ice play. bad teams have people who aren't where they should be during play in the d zone o zone or the neutral ice. and that makes everybody else wondering what they should do or where they have to go because of that. there's a benching of a good player in vancouver right now because of that very thing.
The one thing that got missed is that Andrew Cogliano shared this same sentiment earlier this season in an interview. The core is saying the same thing and I’m sure they’re also saying it in the locker room beforehand
As an Avs fan, I don't think the situation between Ismo and Mikko is a particularly big issue. Rantanen made it clear in a following interview that he and Artturi are good friends, he just wasn't a fan of Ismo saying that he didn't train as much over the summer and would prefer Ismo stuck to analyzing his on-ice play rather than his personal life. In regards to Toews' comments, he's not wrong. There are a handful of guys that are guilty of either trying too hard and making dumb mistakes or not putting in enough effort and giving the opponent chances. I think it's especially noticeable in the D-core without Makar and Girard in the lineup since a lot of the depth is actually playing very well, however it feels like they might be a bit overconfident in trying to fill in for the big offensive shoes Makar and Girard have left leading to a lot more mistakes. The one exception to this is Bo Byram, who's just been having a bit of a rough patch lately and kinda seems to be gripping his stick a bit too hard and trying to hard, leading once again to more mistakes.
I’m amazed at the amount of people applauding this. I actually can’t think of many ways to cause more division in your own locker room if you tried. “Maybe he already said this in private” just makes it worse imo. If you’re one of the guys he’s not talking about, now you’re wondering how much you can really trust your own captain to have your back or take accountability himself. Will he air you out to the media one day? Will he decide you’re the problem next after one bad game? Will he hold himself to the same standard? If you’re one of the guys he IS talking about, you’re either already aware of how you’re struggling or you now feel like you’ve had a target out on your back with the fans and media while your captain escapes any criticism.
I feel like they are missing Landeskog really bad this season. Sometimes Avs play like they are the best team in the league and sometimes it seems like they are lazy and undisciplined especially defensively.
I am sure there is a rule against but seems like they need to have Landeskog double as a coach while he is on LTIR and have him police the locker room.
Toews calling out six players, specifically, does not bode well for Colorado. Telling the media that - precisely - 14 players are pulling their weight, but six are not…. that’s either brutally honest and accurate, or it’s evidence that the Colorado roster is a clusterfuck. Either way, I can’t really see this as a good thing (for Avalanche fans).
I don't think its clear that he was calling out specifically 6 players. I think he just picked a random number to say not everyone is on the same page.
Such a stupid penalty from Wood and Johansen, why are you getting penalized when you have 30 seconds left and an empty net, your team is skilled enough to tie it up a MaKinnon didn't even seem upset, finish the game and them let out your frustrations.
Right message should have been behind closed doors. Avs missing Landeskog more than people think.
Not to mention EJ two huge losses
@@ronstone3395dont forget Kadri
I though it was humor, but Rantanen really took it personally. Imo quite negatively. Ismo just wondered what would have caused Rantanen's mediocre form, which is his job as a TV-commentator. With thicker skin Rantanen could be better player, now even mild critique like this gets under his skin. He should understand he is part of the American pro-sport business, that's exactly WHY he gets paid alot.
I think he was talking about the entire second line of wood,Colton and drouin..all new to the team this year.
As a guy who respects the Avs and finds Nate the most fun superstar to watch, ouch. I like a lot of these players and hope they work it out. I also don't get how that Blackwell hit wasn't dirty, looked like it was to the back and 29's head could have hit the bench. But as a Stars fan, I'm making popcorn
Take it from a Devils fan, Miles Wood is love with that penalty bench! Toews' comments are spot on if you ask me... and at the moment the Avs look like a collection of top tier players, not a team 🤷♂
This is a conversation that’s been had in the room. Bednar confirmed this is nothing that hasn’t been said in the locker room
I'm a Blues fan. A dysfunctional Avs team is about 10 times better than the Blues.
Get your panties out of a bunch and don't say you're a Blues fan and then start whining. Do me a favor though and let me know what the score of the Blues game on Nov 11th was.
Drouin specifically? hell yes.
I have a pretty damn good idea how Toews feels. Good for him, calling everyone out. Winners don't grow content.
The Devon Toews interview reminds of when your school had recess before lunch and this was exactly what people would say at the table.
Lmaooo
as a finn im pretty sure rantanen was just joking we just do that kinda stuff to show affection to a close person but who knows lol
I don’t agree with you. Finns don’t generally publicize close relationships / inside jokes. He looked genuinely hurt.
HE IS TALKING ABOUT JO DROUIN
Atta boy Mrazek facing 40 shots and coming out with a win
Watched these two teams play fifth game of yr. my 19 yr old said he couldn’t believe there could be such a difference of talent between two pro teams lol. Colorado killed them and the score was being very nice as marazak was great. I can’t believe this is the same two teams two months later
Someone needs to step up and fill some big shoes in the locker. Its no secert Gabe is the heart of that team and with him not around the team doing his rehab to get healthy, someone needs to pull the team together. They are a much better team than the performances they are putting on right now
at 2:33 did that dude crosscheck the ref??? I could see it either way but damn this lightning fan wouldn't mind seeing the avs rattled like that
Nah, he threw his left fist at Blackwell, hence the blue glove. Kinda looks like it tho
I think he should have talked to those people directly in the locker room instead of blasting them in an interview. There has been too much drama in the NHL recently.
More than likely, he did just that a few minutes before the interview.
@timkelly6463 Then it should have ended there.
The extra activity was not because of the hit on Mac. Murphy cross checked Drouin in front of the net. After the whistle Drouin gave him a shove and the rest unfolded.
That was a good callout. Devon Toews is one of the best all around defensemen in the NHL. The rest of the team needs to focus on their tenacity because Chicago brought that tenacity. Look at Donato on that goal. Do you know what I mean?
Undisciplined hockey, you can only blame yourself
Which 6 guys? We want names!!
They haven’t been the same without Landeskog…
Without Landeskog, there's no leader on the team.
Is he out all season?
@@terre08yes
Avs desperately need Landeskog back on the bench and from the sound of it in the locker room!
They need Landy back big time. Or trade and bring back EJ. Need a true leader right now.
The Avs got destroyed by the Jets twice within about a week. Kind of demoralizing.
Is it me or is there a lot more upsets this year?
Seems like the more emotionally driven teams tend to get upset by lower tier teams this year. I'm thinking of teams like the Oilers, Avs, Leafs, VGK, maybe the Pens as well. They tend to play based off the emotions of their leaders so when it's going bad, it's real bad.
If you listened to Bednar interview this morning on Altitude radio he did agree with Toews for calling out players. I wouldn't be surprised if this doesn't lead to a players meeting. I actually might be bad but i was trying to figure out who the Avs passengers were. Avs definitely have some lazy players who possibly just want their paycheck. I have a few names I could mention but I won't.
Rantanen does look like shit this season and Devon Toes is awful with the puck. He has wiffed more shots than anyone I've ever seen in a long time. Everytime Toes gets the puck I know he's going to screw it up
It’s obvious to me, Bednar doesn’t have any control over the team! Or the players don’t listen to him. Leaving only one solution. They need a coaching change. Period!
i think thats a pretty bold conclusion to reach when you've been missing your captain for an extended period of time
@@Steelhart69420 I don’t think so at all. The inconsistency the team has shown this season is a prime example of that . Not to mention the locker room call outs by to star players prove my point.
toews should call himself out for losing the handle all day long
Good for him. Gotta love to see it
To be fair, and it doesn’t need to be public or anything, Lehk’s dad owes Mikko an apology. There are certain acceptable things to yell at / say about pro athletes. But something that is more personal or hateful or targeted (especially when said via the media)? Not okay. They might be pros but they’re still people.
This tells me that there is a problem with the team and the coach. Appreciate his honesty but this kind of talk should be left in the locker room. It makes the coach look bad, especially if the coach is addressing the problem. If he voiced his frustration with the coaches and they haven't addressed the issue, it's another story. No matter what the situation is, the fact is that he's a player and not in charge. That makes him less desirable should he want a trade.
So Toews should be delusional enough to pretend there isn't a problem? Calling out those players is the right thing. Does not matter if it's public or private.
I'm all for ringing the alarm bell as an Avs fan, however, hockey players are the only type of athletes that can handle being called-out well. Bednar touched on this earlier today in an interview with a local radio station saying that he takes some of the blame, but they are running into a lot of these issues time and time again from players coming in and system players are getting frustrated by it. He sounded optimistic in thier abillity to iron these issues out. I think Wood is one of those players who Toews may have been referring to, as he kinda goes off and makes his own HEAVY METAL plays. 3rd and 4th lines are struggling to maintain possesion and I think it starts with some of out D-men geting cuaght out. Johnson is the oldest on our squad, however, he sticks to the system and has been shining as a result. All that being said, the Ranty situation is likely unrelated to Toews frustrations. Mikko's comments seemed personal while Toews realizes these newer guys need to stick to the plan before the post-season approaches. The talent is there, however, they are not opperating as a unit. It is very apparent with how many 2 on 1s and even 3 on 1s that the Avs have faced headed towards their own net. All that being said, they are still in a great position in their own division. I'm glad Toews stuck his neck out to air some of the frustrations. It shows they care when their recent performances havent indicated that they do.
Don’t know where your teammates are going to be? I know each team has a system or a version of a system, but keep your head up and you’ll probably see where they are.
Saying it to the press is a cop out. If it means as much to you as you say it does, talk to those guys directly. Keep it in the team. You know? "Team"? Don't hang out your dirty laundry. Because that's just selfish and not teamwork in the slightest.
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Correct. Lol
Well if you make that kind of money you better play your a** off, people come to watch you guys play so no excuses
That's bullshit, in my opinion that's tossing guys under the public bus, even if there's some truth in it, that's for team ears only, I'll bet he didn't tell those players directly, so that's kinda cowardly right there.
Cry harder. The truth hurts.
I'll bet he definitely told those players, but in front of the entire team. Toews isn't the kind of guy to just bottle this shit up and then let loose once he has a mic in his face.
@@timkelly6463true, i mean that is not in the culture of Avs to do this without any discussion with the team.
I feel like this is kinda the worst type of "call out", doing it half-way seems like a really, really bad idea.
And when do you suggest to do this thiugh, at least there are still a lot of games to go through and iron these issues out. Might as well do this at this point, correct them then do it near the playoffs.
Alright avs fans who do we think Toews is referring too
All the new guys. But who knows for sure
Myers, MacDermid, Olofsson, Kiviranta, Wood, and Colton.
Definitely Colton and Wood. Probably Byram and Olofsson too. Maybe Johansson, but I think he's mostly been doing what he's supposed . The other guys I mentioned have all been off the rails the last few weeks.
I'm not impressed by any Avs goalie. So many other teams have better goalies.
What about Rantanen´s comment got to do with Avalanche? Absolutely nothing! The fact the words towards a person who happens to be a father of an another avalanche player does not make it a critisism of an avalanche team nor player. I really do not get how this is so hard to understand... Artturi Lehkonen´s father is not in any way part of the Avalanche organization as far as I know...
It may affect the two of them playing together if they are not happy with each other. It has to do with it.
PS… his dad made the comment about Rants in the offseason. Catch up.
@@daynasafranek7807 I am WELL aware what Ismo Lehkonen has said. What Mikko has said, it got nothing to do with Artturi. And Artturi has seen thousands of comments from his dad before as he's a coach and commentator in sports media. Nothing new from Ismo...
Winners train, losers complain
For all we know, Toews already had one on one conversations with the teammates he just called out, but without naming them. It has been 1/3 of the season already, so I assume that’s the case. With that assumption, I’m 100% behind going public with his frustrations. There’s nothing like a little humility to get people to look within and hopefully respond as the competitors they are supposed to be.
He said nothing that was "brutal" this is an example why in todays society people are so soft they think an innocent critique is just horrible lol.
The Avs are a mess and I love it.
is it only me or toews face looks like draisaitl
No mention of the Makar not playing last night. lol Oversight much?
So was it one of his teammates fault that he wasn’t skating hard and let Reichel scores unmolested? Look in the mirror bud, you’re a far cry from a player to call out others…
this is not it oof. i'd take boring, canned media answers any day over this public mess. i don't know what he's thinking he'll achieve with this callout either. are they going to go on a winning streak because he called our his teammates?? or more likely, is it going to cause his teammates to resent him for the public attention that they will have to answer to bc of this comment? does he know that he's part of a team?? they guy is going to get traded and it's going to mess with makar's game to have to get used to a new D partner. toews signed an extension with a NMC but forgot that it doesn't kick in until next year :/
The truth hurts. Gen Z's like you should stick to soccer.
Toews' comments are actually pretty spineless. If he was a good leader, you don't go whining to the media about issues with some players on your team, you save it and address it directly with your teammates. There are definitely some issues brewing in that locker room.
The truth hurts.
"Lying is more brave," - You.
Toews isn't delusional enough to have your mentality.
@@lelouchvibritannia4028 Do you take all your family issues to Facebook to get them resolved?
@@lelouchvibritannia4028 You know, if all you do in these comment sections is make fun of fans of your own hometown team for having a different opinion than you, I suggest you find a new hobby. Sincerely, An Avs fan who doesn't shit on others
Avs being bad, you love to see it.
Salty BLues fan. We own you.
Chicago is learning , and they got rid of some dead weight Perry. This didn’t surprise me whatsoever. Chicago is turning things around .
Lol even if rantanen didn't train as hard he's still way better than lekkonen 😂his dad should stfu
Clearly a dysfunctional room