Toyota Engine Destruction // Don't Do This!!
2023 ж. 6 Мам.
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What does it take to destroy a Toyota 1GR-FE V6 engine? Not much it seems. A simple obstacle in Sand Hollow was enough to put this engine at an angle that was sufficient to hydro-lock it.
You did solve one mystery for me. We now know why the balance bubble on the dash of the FJ only goes to 30 degrees. 😆 🤣 😂
I had the same thought!!
I've been oas true 30 degrees with no issues tho
I’m so focused on that too.. ha I have a Jeep, it might be the same as the FJ with this issue. I’m not going to forget this great video. Thanks for all the detail!
Some amazing articulation @2:30 just wow she pushing the outer limits of the articulation on that suspension nice wheeling Ken @Offroad Hub
I was hoping for a 4.7 or 2JZ swap. But I understand keeping it simple and saving as much as possible.
I love that you are speaking the words I was about to comment about how it makes sense to go back to the 4.0 lol
Yeah a swap would be cool, but ain't nobody got time for that. 😄
@@offroadhub.official if you lacked power I get it but that’s not the case. If as just bad luck I think lol
That articulation looks narly at 6:49 damn What a Dope position for a Photo Shoot Bro @Offroad Hub
@Offroad Hub I'm blown away at how well your beast wheels. It's obvious to me that you've invested a ton of time, effort and $ into making it such a beast offroad. You drive it beautifully as well. Good luck with the new engine, I'm sure you'll solve this issue as well as you have with all the others that have occured.
Phenonemal build, Ken. It's good to see someone with the know-how to fix their own rig. Thanks for sharing how to diagnose a broken rod.
Thanks!
Can I call you gus?
Wow! Thank you!
@@4wheelersinarizona Yes Sir....
Awesome bro!
Great clip! Consider filling your 30l day pack with two Go-Vino flutes and a bottle of chilled champagne for your evening Seine River cruise. The Rodin sculpture garden is a great place for a picnic but they don’t allow champagne;)
I bet that hole on the inside of the lower block is what allowed the coolant/ oil to mix. it hit near a coolant channel in the block.
There was no coolant in the oil pan. It was only mixed on the top end of the engine.
Looks and sounds like oil got in the intake and the plenum and was burned out the exhaust oh no you will get it fixes Ken Some Amazing Offroading Ken you wheel that beast Beautifully @Offroad Hub
Wow! Thats a solid bit of damage. Thanks for sharing the diagnosis and outcome mate.
Sorry to hear about your engine problems hope you get it back on the road soon cheers enjoy the holiday 👍
Glad you’re getting the FJ dialed back in. looking good by the way👀 thought you looked different👍🏽
Wow at the hole in the Windage Tray Aka You called it Splash Guard
Perfect example of too many people trying to spot on an obstacle.
Yeah there was a little bit of that. Everyone just wants to help.
Seen Tacoma on 15 at WindRock starts knocking while leaning over. No way for coolant to get into a cylinder. Only after it blew up and damaged a coolant passage could coolant enter the cylinder. So it had to hydro lock from oil. Best of luck with the swap.
BEAUTIFUL wheeling brother. Crispy lines, nice speed and momentum. So many people don't understand the poetry of wheeling.
Yep the blocks and heads are the same between Vehicles makes like 4runners and Tacoma Just outer accessories and components that can be changed and bolt up and boom its now in a different vehicle @Offroad Hub
Sorry to hear about the engine! No fun! I guess that’s why the inclinometer only goes to 30 degrees of tilt in any direction 😅 glad you have the skills to get the swap done!
I'd suspect the CCV/PCV system providing oil back into the intake and oil-hydrolocking the engine, specifically, that cylinder. My son's JK, early '12, had similar issues of oil hydrolocking that I have on video, oil running, not dripping, running out of his resonator with the front at 40-50* up. It smoked light, then heavy and bogged, so he shut down, and that's when the oil poured out. Towed it home, took top plenum off, plugs out and used old socks to get into the cavities to absorb oil out on top of the valves. Sprayed it all down with SeaFoam and did the sock thing again. Turned over the engine to blow out the cylinders and used Seafoam in there as well. The top plenum was turned on its end and had a tshirt underneath. It was soaked from the oil still in the runners! 4 drives later, thru rod #5 through the block. Refurbished long block replaced it. Turns out, it appears the 1st owner never changed the oil as the camshafts themselves showed excessive wear issues, but everything else on top was coated with a thick wax-oil residue. Found that the head casting on passenger side didn't have a return cavity passage for the oil (research forums spoke about this in late '11 for the early '12s 3.6ls). The CCV system doesn't have a 'valve' but more of a 'maze' to get the oil-vapored air back into the engine to burn. Thus the inventions of the oil-catch cans. We've installed one with 8' of tubing to help collect as much oil as possible before getting put back into the engine. I would have preferred to remove the CCV system from the internal combustion all together. There are oil-catch cans that are breathable, so have one on each side of the CCV system. Meaning clean air is entered into the driver's valve cover coming from the intake tube. The passenger valve cover is the exit and gets plumbed into the intake behind the throttle body. There is no ECU sensor to determine if that is working correctly or not, other than the O2s. With engine blow-by, the oil-vapor air is pressurized back into the intake tube as the pressure is greater than the engine's vacuum. Suggest to look into oil catch cans for your FJ.
great video man glad to see this new content
Subscribed! Its unfortunate what happened but the bright side is we get to watch it! Love your FJ. Worked at a Toyota dealership for a while and fell in love with those things... Even though you cant seen anything from the drivers seat. Its like the eyes of a predatory animal. Forward only.
Thanks for subscribing! I'll be sharing the engine change, and all the adventures to come. Yes, the viability out of the FJ is tough! 😂
Have fun on your vacation Ken and Elizabeth, your a good mechanic Ken you got this. On a side note Rubithon may get pushed to August because it’s still snowing as of your video post. Happy trails.
Thanks Dan! I'm pretty sure I'll still be going in June regardless. You're welcome to join me!
Getting back on the trails, sounds like the best idea
Come on guys, let’s pitch in a few bucks to try to help Ken out! See the “thanks” button to the right…
That's awesome, thank you! 😍
I've donated enough to Ken's funds
Enjoy your Paris and venna Trips bro @Offroad Hub
Hey Ken, other than this small stumbling block I hope all is well. Any issues with the small stuff like that silly oil pick up on the front of the 4R engine just reach out as we solved that problem a long time ago as it was kind of in the way on my build. Hope to well again together one day sooner than later.
Bad luck man. I’d love to see you do a build series for the swap just like you did with the sas. I really enjoyed watching that.
I know that would be really cool, but I want to get back to wheeling this summer! 😄
Use to put smaller tires on lifted trucks to R&R motors to bring the front down. Also one of the reasons I never like Harbor freight engine hoist is because they don't have the reach into the engine bays. I still have my old hoist non collapsible style that has a super long reach into bays. Bought over 25 years ago from Kragen auto parts. I've loaned it out to my buddies who ran full bore running auto shops and live there for over 5 years. It's been used to pull Powerstrokes and you name it. Well its home now and still getting worked.
Too bad about your engine. Hope you have a fantastic trip to Europe though! I'm looking forward to seeing the swap.
You are the king of Fj Content.
High praise, thank you! 😉
You just spoke facts about engine power v6 vs v8.
Totally understand your decisions Ken and bummer it blew! Enjoy Europe🤘🇨🇦🙂
Looks like while you were at the 45 degree angle the driver head gasket blew just enough to dump coolant into the cylinder and the handle also caused Engine oil to hydro lock the engine by flowing into the intake plenum and then pushed into the cylinder through the intake vacuum for combustion @Offroad Hub
God : im going to create land where noone can ever go. Toyota : Blah Blah Blah.
Blah blah blah, dead. 😄
Dang , Mechanics get up Early in the morning!
@@toddeliott20 it's 2pm in Vienna where I am right now. 😉
Oof, Big time difference! Enjoy your trip!
Ouch man, anyways that’s odd how it was milky on the intake side but not on the oil pan, still “I love what you do for me Toyota” 🎶🎵🎤
Wouldn’t have thought a 45 tilt would do that. Good luck 😊
I Don't Know Where You Lost It BUT, I found a few of them Pounds You Have Lost. Good Job Buddy good luck getting where you want to be. "You Look Marvelous" in my best Billy Crystal voice. 👍🏻
Thank you! 😉
Totally agree about the engine swap, especially with your gearing. You don't need 200 more horsepower to drive .7 mph up an obstacle. The only real reason for an LS swap is how it would sound doing it. Not a bad reason...😊🤔
That was a ballsy run!
Oh man did a connecting rod snap on back driver side 😳 that sucks
I suspect the engine oil creeped into the intake via PCV valve: At idle PCV is open, then leaning to left makes the left bank to act as a Subaru boxer engine. Does the PCV is on left valve cover? may be it's good to fix a shut off valve to PCV while going over 30 degrees.
Man that sucks! I think what happened is you were overwhelming the intake with oil and shutting off the engine gave it enough time to fill a cylinder. The coolant could be from the immense pressure off trying to compress the oil and breaking the rod it is not uncommon. It could also possibly be gas but i think the immense pressure lifted the head or cracked into a coolant galley. What i would suggest in the future is rerouting/redesigning your pcv system. You can run the hoses in a ceratain way around the engine or what im running on a different engine is a moroso oil/air separator its similar to a catch can but its not vented so it can hold vacuum and its not gonna suck up dust or water offroad its just a separator. I run 2 they have a small skinny one and a fatter one the moroso ones are a nice quality ive tried cheaper ones. But this is common for the breathers to put oil into the intake and it will smoke and unfortunately i think shutting it off and sitting is what let enough oil in otherwise it may have kept burning instead of building up. Youll have to do some research on your specific pcv breather system and see how you want to rectify this so it doesn't happen again. Like i mentioned theres ways of routing the hose around the engine so at no point can oil actually get into the intake but that can be tricky sometimes and ugly to route. Then theres the oil/air separator which will help and buy some time. I do mine with a separator and a little hose routing i run 2 separators 1 for each breather. Theres also a catch can vented to atmosphere but over the years ive come to not like those on a offroad rig because it can be a way for water to get in if it splashes up in the engine bay in extreme conditions also dust is another thing with those. But again it really depends on application. You will have to explore your breather system and see what you can do to route it in a way that is better suited to high angles and add an oil separator or two if you think that would help. I dont think at any point your pickup ran dry that would be a different kind of failure and this is a classic failure of oil filling the intake from the breathers. It seems like your pickup system is probably pretty good at steep angles. sometimes guys will add baffles with trap doors and things in the pan ive also seen people run oil accumulators which will buy you precious time after the pickup runs dry but again i think you always had oil pressure. Here is a good video linked below that talks about hose routing and vents in a offroad application he starts talking about the engine around 7.30ish this might help you. kzhead.info/sun/lbpwh6eDb6WDmKM/bejne.html
So sorry to see this video! As someone who has LS swapped an off road rig, +1 for keeping the Toyota engine. Properly integrating an LS into a modern vehicle is a lot of work, costs way more than you initially plan, and it takes months of tweaking to get just right.
Projects like that always take longer and cost more than planned!
Total bummer. Looking forward to seeing her wheel again soon.
Very soon!
Tough luck on the engine man, but seems like the new one is a good upgrade. I don't agree with the ls swap world, your fj works so well with the 4.0 why change it? You know exactly how well it works weighted the way it is..
Also. A stand-alone ecu would be a great addition over an engine swap.
Impressive that the bearing is still good, that says the angularity limit of the lubrication system is pretty high. I wonder if having that piston bottom submerged in oil when at bottom of stroke when leaned over as you were and a high cylinder vacuum because of low engine speed/part throttle resulted in sucking enough oil past rings from bottom up to accelerate your problem? Maybe once you get it all apart we'll see more. Looking forward to your future video(s).
Oh yeah, the oil pan design would make it so you'd almost have to be upside down to starve for oil! I'll go over that next time.
Sorry to hear man! But a great cautionary tale for us FJ owners. Love the headlights - what kind are they?
He has a video about the headlights.
They are HID retrofits, from a company that isn't doing them anymore.
I'm very interested in the disassembly of the broken engine.. lots of unexplained here like what caused the hydrolock, was it oil or coolant, where did the mysterious piece of aluminum come from, why is oil in the exhaust.. and the list goes on.. lol enjoy your vacation but hurry up and make the next video!! 🤣🤣🤣
I'll be all over the next video as soon as I get back! 😉
I'm glad you aren't doing a different engine. Don't change what isn't doing the trick
Ken the like engine replacement is the smart move...but what fun is that...
The fun is getting back to wheeling sooner! 😀
Why do bad things happen to good people? Bummer man. Can’t wait to see the Rubicon content! Good luck with the swap!
Thank you!
Bad luck on the blown engine. Is there something that can counter that, dry sump or what?
Yes that much pressure that broke the rode was sent out to the rest of the component’s the crank will be bent cylinder wall could be out! So on and so on!
I’m guessing that the head gasket is blown too.
Looked like you were doing a great job up to that point on the trail 🤙🏼 Easy for me to sit back from this side and critique, but I wonder if, when you’re on that Z turn next time, if you’d feel comfortable giving it a little more throttle when you get to the top again. It looked like it was close to grabbing. Then you might have had less time at such an angle 🤷🏻♂️
I'll definitely try it differently next time. 👍
jack it up, front, turn wheel left, adjust stop till binds, then back . my lwb f1004x4, turned on a dime, but in 4x4, it wobbled, found out the stops turned all way in.. so backed out till no bind. now i drive swb f100,s.. ausie.. yes i dont like engines on a lean, if you dont have dry sump, or decent pick ups..like a windage tray..@@offroadhub.official
funny how th japs change sht every 6 months,, so nothing fits.. just keping up with adr,s greenies, epa rubbish..@@offroadhub.official
damn this is a first. was your 1gr burning oil prior to this? possibly you were low on oil?
There was a a little smoke that had just started coming out the exhaust. If I had left it running it probably would have stayed ahead of the flow into the cylinder. The engine was not low on oil.
That sucks dude. I'm buying a 3rz from yota 1 for my 01 tacoma. Mines at 300k and runs starts etc fine. In fact I'm not really worried about it failing but I'd like to have a backup ready. Then when the old one finally fails I'll swap it and rebuild the old one.
I had one piston ended up sideways in the cylinder once. The car wasn't worthy of another engine. Fun is expensive!
need a 5 way scavenger dead middle deep left, deep right, deep forward deep rear.. so no matter the angle of the engine it will scavenge keep it circulating oil and nourish the top end so forth, man that sucks
Oh no dude! What a bummer to have that engine issue. Though it does reinforce my feeling that, where you rock crawling lunatics go, us overlanding angels fear to tread. lol Seriously though, vids like this are really helpful for us less experienced people. For instance, I've recently had a weird lean fuel issue pop up with my FJ that I've been troubleshooting. Videos like this help keep things in perspective for me, to remind me that there are more serious issues I could be dealing with, and that it's a good thing to be learning more about the ins and outs of these vehicles.
Good luck with the lean codes! At least my problem was straightforward, no question about it! 😄 Thanks for watching!
The Rubicon in June...you might need a snorkel by Loon Lake. So much water up there now.
Yeah we'll see. I'm watching the snow situation.
Question: was it the drivers side bank with the broken piston or passenger side bank? I can possibly understand if it was the passenger side ; maybe at that angle for the duration of it running there wasn’t enough oil lubrication between the piston rings and cylinder wall causing it to heat up and seize and most likely causing a blown head gasket or cracked head near a coolant jacket……
It was the driver's side. The piston is still perfectly free and smooth in the cylinder.
In 20/20 hindsight, you probably would have been okay if you kept the engine running. You need a self-leveling suspension!
It may have saved it, I've had the same thought. I just didn't think I was at that crazy of an angle. I was pretty shocked.
@@offroadhub.official That was quite an angle, most 4 stroke engines don't like to run inverted. With that spare chunk of metal you found, you made the right decision swapping the motor out. Finding coolant in the wrong places isn't good either,
I would certainly question some of that spoting. Why would they put you at the crazy angles? Are the jeeps on those same lines?
Just armchair quarterbacking here, but from the other Jeep content I’ve seen on that trail, it is the same lines they take. The spotting seemed good to me 👍🏼
Hi Ken, I was kinda waiting for Matt's Off-Road Recovery or The Fab Rats to come and tow your FJ. You can try a collaboration video with Ahmed of The Car Care Nut working on your engine.
Matt's would have taken too long, and I'm not sure about what they might charge. I'll have to look up the car care nut!
How much was the other engine?
When the engine hyrdo-locked, it very well could have blown the head gasket, which could be why you are seeing coolant in the cylinder.
Do you think the oil came in the intake through the crank case ventilation? Would a catch can have prevented this?
Yes, and maybe!
@@offroadhub.official thanks for the reply! I really like your build.
Just one spotter !!!!!!!!!
appears you hydro locked your cylinder which bent lead lead the the rod and its eventual failure..
At least you have good parts to sell on the old motor. Will you do a tear down like the idocars channel?
I've got lots of spare parts! I haven't seen the idocars channel. I'll take a look!
I love I-do-cars. It is so satisfying to see what is inside engines that I will never own or have a chance to tear into.
You’ve lost some weight. Good for you.
Weld it up that block, sleeve that one cylinder or hone it, new piston, head & valve repair..... On second thought, good used, looks like you might of had a blown head gasket then hydrolocked that cylinder.....
Do you think an oil catch can would of help?
Maybe, I'm not sure.
We'll add your name to the list of like 12 other people that managed to blow up a 1GR-FE 😂
Somebody else also pointed out that I'm an over achiever. 😉
Sorry to see! I know there are numerous cases with the same issue from 3rd gen tacoma's 3.5 and even Jeeps 3.6. Resulting in a blown engine.
It’s not numerous.
@@flight2k5 Perhaps numerous is too many but there are multiple individual threads on tacoma world with a blown 3.5 from being on an incline with others adding to the discussion saying theirs blew as well. Obviously not a huge issue but it can and will happen if you stay on a steep incline. Haven’t looked into the Jeep 3.6 as much, even though I had one 😂. Never smoked though.
More power = more broken parts. Keep it simple
How much did you pay for the 4Runner motor?
It may have lifted the head when it hydrolock on oil.
Tundra V8 Swap????
Ken did the impossible. He blew a 1GR-FE.
I'm an over achiever 😄
@@offroadhub.official what’s crazy is I wrote this before you mentioned that it only had 70k miles! Truly an accomplishment not many can say they have achieved. Well done!
Sorry about the motor. Never fun. Looks like you have a good plan though.
You have an excuse to put an old diesel in🤷🏾♂️
Where did you get that rear panel from
Orange box fabrication!
When metal things in your oil pan are of the "I can't tell where this came from" variety, you definitely have a problem. bummer dude.
Yeah 😂
You know what would be awesome.... if you show us how to convert your FJ to a Diesel engine FJ, run by a Toyota diesel engine that can be bough in auction. deisel engine have great low end torque and toyota and Cummins makes the best out there. so this would be a great episode to watch.
That sounds cool, but I don't want to spend the time or money on that right now! Gotta get back to wheeling!
Sorry Ken, total bummer!!!
Done
New short blocks are insanity expensive
So much easier to just replace an engine. There's so many things you don't think of with a swap like the fuel system, ecm, driveline ect.
You keeping the old motor?
I'll probably hang onto the heads for spares and make a lamp or table out of the block. 😂
@@offroadhub.official yeah I was gonna suggest putting some big old valves in the heads and slowly do a bunch of work on them before you get the supercharger. And then have some heads with good flow ready to bolt up.
Time for a ls swapped engine
Enjoy your vacation.
I'm am! Thank you!
blown headgasket + rod nock ?
nevermind... i see the catastrophe :(
Hate to state the obvious no catch can?
Dry sump it lol 😂😂
you filled a cylinder or two u with oil, never should have shut it off, the smoke was just excess oil from the lean angle, but shutting it off allowed it to fill up. also after shutting it off you should have winched out, pull plugs, crank, install plugs go home... but never shut it off cuz while its running it cannot fill the cylinders up, if it runs and starts kicking while lent over, then the cylinder has prolly killed off a plug but the oil should still kick out the exhaust valves and be OK .. keep going.. stay at those lean angles MINIMAL time, in and out one motion, you hang out way to long analyzing what not .. IN AND OUT, DO NOT SHUT IT OFF .. all that's happening is the oil is creeping in the oil rings, its OK and as long as its running it wont fill up the cylinder, shut it off and let it fill then start? you see what happens.. sucks
Yes, hindsight really stings. 😂