Tom hasn't had a heating bill for 40 years. with a combination of solar water heating and a DIY wood boiler for his Hydronic radiant floors that he installed 18 years ago.
He shows us his complete system that heats his home and shop.
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For anyone wondering, his external panels run glycol through them because glycol will not freeze when the temps drop. The warm glycol runs through the heat exchanger which then warms the water to run under the floor. I know that it's probably obvious to most folks who watch these types of videos but hopefully it helps someone understand that otherwise wouldn't. Pretty awesome setup
No such thing as free energy whether you pay by time or currency it's still not free
I understood all of that, but wouldn't a larger heat exchanger make it way more efficient and speed ip the process of warming the water to warm the floor faster?
Dumb question: why would you want to avoid using glycol under the floor? I understand by separating the fluid he has greater control over the temperature change, but it's technically not as efficient.
@@danamullins2723those brazed plate heat exchangers are surprisingly efficient despite their small size. More btus with more water flow needs a larger heat exchanger, but his smaller system doesn’t need many btus. He could gain an advantage with a larger heat exchanger but might be splitting hairs if he sized that one appropriately
@@user-jv6kk9td9m hundreds of gallons of glycol = $$. Glycol can break down and become corrosive as well. I like water better in my own system also
More Tom. Not many guys like him left. We need to learn while we still can.
Amen!
I designed and built a thermal mass heater, first design failed so I modified it and it began to work good. Until the flue started leaking. So I'm changing the design again soon to be a totally sealed system from the firebox. Most of it is all on my KZhead. Made firebrick up and all, the whole thing fits on a base essentially with a layer on firebrick underneath the firebox
Exactly
Yep go to homedepot when your bill comes to eleven dollars and forty seven cents and you hand the cashier 21 dollars and forty seven cents. Because you want a ten dollar bill back in return, You will get the complete look of confusion back from the cashier, Need not say more, yes not too many like him around .
no disrespect, this old dude is a smart guy. But he didn’t exactly invent something completely new, he was just brave enough to build this. It’s us, we’re too lazy to change. We just want to push a button and have it warm.
When a man runs 5’ to open a door, you know he means business!!! Excellent system! 💪🔥🙌💯
And he's excited to show it off :) Very smart fella.
I’m a plumber and not only do I agree with this, I actually learned a few things
This is heating engineering
@@noelburke6224yes, I think he's aware of that...and it requires plumbing to set it up...along with some electrician work.
Same lol, this is quite something he has created. I expected to see some geothermal
What!?? Where's your pride!??
As if a simple plumber should know all this 😂
Excellent system. The fire box has the exterior air vented into the burn chamber so no sucking outdoor air through doors, windows, etc = genius.
- and no losing warmed room air to the fire.
-and no oxygen depletion in the living quarters..@@kadmow
You nailed it. This is the crux of efficient wood burning.
@@roberttammerawitchey4652 , yes. That too... (Though ERV/HRV is a smart addition to any tight system- or just one with no pressure differential - leaky openings only leak if there is a pressure difference) ventilation needs air changes - best to engineer this in (even if metered to be in punctuated intervals - depending on use cases (ERV doesn't necessarily "have to" be continuous - a sophisticated system could use moisture levels, dew points, etc - hypothetically..)..
If it's pulling air from the room where people will be, wouldnt that actually be depleting oxygen from a place where people will be?@@roberttammerawitchey4652
Man I could easily watch a ten hour video of that older guy just because he talks fast and to the point
Military Man
Love watching as well 😊
When he said he was pretty sure delta T was the technical term or whatever, I knew he was the type of learner that learned because he had to, and I really can appreciate that.
Have him on the show more often. We need him teaching. Those men such as him are few and far between. Also, his fitness is on point. He even said keeping his bike trail clear. Brilliant!
Just wait until you find out he’s ripping a 70ish amp hr e-bike snow bike at Mach infinite, to the edge of the battery range. Dude is a legend and about 2 centuries before his time.
@@soapmact was that a video I'd watch that haha
Bike to this kind of person means a quad.. an atv or side by side, not a thing with peddles
This is the kinda old person I’m building to be like. You can walk around his garage and learn what he’s done that’s relevant today. This guy is amazing and energetic because he’s used his mind and hands to survive. Also, I love videos like this where people in the comments share their setups too. It adds to the learning and ideas to build my own system. This is a great science space which is greatly appreciated!! Thank you for this interview and posting this video! Thank you for all the informative comments I’ve read and future ones I will come back for and read!
"If they don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy."
You want to spend decades slowly figuring out basic crap while you waste huge amounts of money to "save money"?
sounds like fun
i dont like it. im going to go watch a welding channel. "I don't want peace. I want problems always"
Very similar in concept to what I have. I use a wood gasification boiler to heat up a 3000L tank for the radiant floor heating. In addition, I have a heat-pump (air to water) which does the same when there is enough sun. I have about 15kW of solar and a 60kWh (soon 100kWh) LFP battery as well. I'm fully off-grid here in Finland.
What's your usage like? I'm just curious how long it takes to fully charge up your 60 kWh battery based on your usage. If you are expanding to 100kWh, again I'm curious what your usage is in order to fully charge the 100kWh system.
@@quantummotion Usage is quite low, especially in winter. Typically, 5kWh per day. In summer, much more because of the excess power as well: running a food dehydrator 24/7, power tools to prep firewood, etc. Charging really depends. In summer, I can generate 50kWh a day easily. In winter, I won't even make 1 kWh per day. In early spring and autumn when I run the heat pump, I need to be a little careful not to overextend (depends heavily on the weather), but I can typically still allocate 15kWh and more per day for the heat pump alone.
You'll always be on the grid whether you like it or not.
@@gordonliddy9418 I'm literally not connected to the electricity grid, i.e., off grid.
@@upnorthandpersonal Sounds a bit like my system. Solar heating, solar pv, a gasification wood boiler, and an air to water heatpump. If electricity is cheap, the heat pump heats the house. If its expensive, the woob boiler keeps the home warm. It works remarably well, and have low running costs. I dont have any batteries (yet) and i am on the grid. My Pv is creating lots of extra electricity in the summer, and usually only cover 2-3% of ny need for electricity in the winter (dec jan). I live in Sweden, so I guess we have similiar climate.
Hat's off to this man. One advantage to living in the country is you don't have to run everything through the city for approval then you are free to do what works for you. That's whatvhe did. He knows how it all works and it's gotten him through 40 years without having to pay for heat.
He pays a costs. Just not to a system and he controls everything.
Definitely just jurisdiction dependent unless you’re talking super rural. Lots of unpermitted work in cities too lol
@@brentdavidson1 Do it on the weekend when the inspector isn't at work 🤣🤣
@@brentdavidson1 My pops reroofed his house on a Sunday for that reason. Lol
@-sensibleChris the only thing he didn't do was pay a gas bill to produce heat but he still payed for the heat.
this guy had no idea what he was doing. yet he figured out as he went along. bravo for not giving up. 👏
Exactly, one of the best comments yet!
Oh, I think he knew 80-90% of what he was doing, but there is a "learning curve" on the rest, tweaking here or there to make it work better, like the stove design!
*Amazing but I totally BELIEVE IT! I use an old STEAM boiler in my cellar and pump hot water (195 F.) through high Temp Sch #40 CPVC pipe (Orange colored Fire Sprinkler Rated Pipe) I heat this boiler with about 50 pounds of wood per day and I can keep our 3000 Sq. Ft. cabin at 76 degrees inside when it's -10 F outside in Alaska. I have about 18,000 feet of 1/2" Pex pipe in the walls and floor of this home for heating AND Cooling. If your a good designer return the warm water to the top of the boiler tank and it will not take much energy to get it back upto full temp again. VERY EFFICIENT!!!!!!.* P.S. If you live in a COLD CLIMATE NEVER use Copper tubing in the walls of your home!!!! Copper tubing is good for making "Moonshine" but not plumbing a Cold Climate home! If your heat or power ever fails PEX pipe will not Burst in the walls of your home from Freezing!!! NEVER USE COPPER!!!!!!!!!
One of my old farm houses is even simpler than that.. It's a pure gravity (hot air rises, cold air sinks) no pumps,or fans req'd. a Early 1900's Lennox No. 1 wood furnace is sitting in the basement, and hot air rises though ductwork up the center of the house, all the way to the 2nd story. Cold air return are just simple open vents along the outer walls, 'dumping' into ductwork below the 1st floor... back to the firebox. Once it's up to temp, the air is moving so fast it'll blow your hair back when standing by one of the registers. The only 'thermostat' is a fancy brass wall mounted lever hooked to a chain that goes to the air door down in the basement. It also had (no longer used) a loop for heating water in an isolated hot water exchange tank. No pumps needed there either. strictly convection powered. All it took was a strong back to keep it fed with firewood LOL
How do you use it for cooling?
old farm house= 'window a/c' LOL. it's heavily shaded by huge trees, so it's not too bad.@@justinridlen
Never heard that about PEX piping. Very interesting indeed 🤔
@@robertmcsorley4001 It's not true. Nothing can avoid the laws of physics. Water expands when frozen.......period. PEX piping just has some flex to it so it can expand a bit more before it breaks. It can still break and even if it doesn't it will still cause leaks. You can't let your pipes freeze, it's that simple.
Yeah, I could hang out with Tom for days. He's a forward thinker and something tell's me he's into a bunch of other cool stuff. Thanks for the video.
Tom needs his own youtube channel...
It's the kinda guy that gets things done...no time for vids.
yet the other guy channel use others for money
He's too busy running his heating plant.
@@24bidy and there is nothing wrong with that. I'm sure this old man had a great time sharing his work, and helping others. And I'm sure video uploader enjoyed it as well, and maybe had travel expenses, business expenses to give this video to us as well. So even if he made some money from the video, that's fine. I learned some stuff, I'm sure others did as well, and the old man got to share his wisdom and teach others, which is a valuable feeling within itself. The old man didn't have to do this video, but he probably done it because he was proud of his work and wanted to share and help others. Which some people really enjoy doing just that.
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So this dude Tom is a product of "I dont have anything to lose." motto. Ingenuity at its finest. Good for you Tom you're awesome!
So cool. My dad had a heating system in his shop similar to that. He would always sya the same thing about needing to have it burning the day before if you want heat the next day.
i built a system very similar to this in the early 00's. it is good to see others doing this. i have not had a heating bill since 2011 when i finished the project and fine tuned it. 🙂
I bought my house 15 years ago and haven’t paid an Euro since then for heating thanks to my wood heater and many sources of wood for free. Lots of work, hauling, cutting, storing, moving wood and so on. But I love it! Cheers from Germany 🔥🪵
That’s because you didn’t just buy a house.. you bought woodland as well..
You Germans have a tendency to confuse logs and TESLAs at the moment ;)
The energy this man displays is inspiring!! keep on keepin on sir!
Thanks for this, I worked on these systems for 30 years, brings back memories. Smart guy with a great deal of time invested. When he goes it will be shut down, no one else will maintain or operate the system. My kind of stuff, love it.
Same thoughts here. This guy is good,I hope he has like minded sons and daughters with the drive he has. I have spent a lifetime building my tool arsenal with quality old school and modern tools and am afraid when I am not here they won’t be appreciated. I have tried to pass along my knowledge and sense of where we came from to my children as best I can,but it is not easy with the current mindset of the world.
Nathan, I'm an old guy with a shop full of machines, spent my whole life building and fixing stuff. My old breakfast friends and I joke about how it will all go to the scrapper when I'm gone. I have two whole house generators, a homebuilt diesel and an Onan natural gas powered one. My wife would be challenged to operate either. Just how it is. Thanks for the comment. @@nathanclaytor4083
Nothing like warm floors in a house or shop. Hands down the best kind of space heat.
Most efficient, too. No hot air up there!
My coworker has a shop with with the same setup as this guy, the shop is insanely hot and if you bring a snow covered big rig in the shop, in 10 minutes all the snow will be gone
So that's basically too hot in there.
@@jackjack4412 it's actually not that hot to be honest, it's warm don't get me wrong but he has heated floors and it's crazy how fast it heats up
@@davesmith3529 right on, I've never been in a shop like that. That's good.
Tom’s phenomenal. We need more people like him.
That was very interesting to watch. Thank you for bringing us along.
I’d love to follow Tom and guys like him around for a week. So much practical knowledge.
I love this guy! He knows so much and is so humble!
Now I've put my fair share of hydronic in floor heating in concrete but I've never seen those solar panels on the roof to heat the water, I love that idea, what a brilliant mind to learn from
Great educational video. Love the “Back off” mud flaps on his wall.
Thanks 👍
This old guy is a genius! I love the sign with the bull on it, "I can make it to the gate in 20 seconds, can you?" lol
isnt that a dog?
@@Veikrabull meaning dog
This man is an absolute genius. I'm sure it's a pleasure just to know him.
what is GPS coordinates location of his house ?
Interesting. My grandfather had something like this he built back in the '60s... Water jacket around a wood stove... He used a regular hot water heat circulator pump to send hot water to the second floor for baseboard radiators. 1st floor got hot from the fire itself. If someone was staying upstairs he went down to the basement and plugged the circulator in.
Way cool! I am very impressed. Smart man right there 👍 thank you for sharing.
You bet! thanks for watching.
That's pretty cool. I remember the Automotive shop my dad used to work at, RoHo Towing in Meridian Idaho in the 70's. Bruce and Dude had a Duel Barrel wood stove heating the two bays in the middle of winter. Thanks for sharing, might have to do this in Northern Arizona. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
Didn't know that I needed to see a video of this man with his creation but here we are. People like him are a breath of fresh air when you meet them. They make your own projects seem less daunting. Keep up the good work. Subscribed.
I am a hydronic heating specialist, i appreciate guys like tom. He inspires me to create a heating loop at my own home, for most people the maintenance alone on a system like this would make it impractical. However if done right i think could really save you thousands in the long run
It will save you thousands as long as you and your life (time) are already worthless.
What makes his system so maintenance heavy? Hydronic floor heating as been the default in new buildings Europe for a couple of decades now, and it's pretty much an install-and-forget experience
Enjoyable to see and hear about Tom's heating system. He's entertaining to watch. The boiler itself would cost a ton to build now with the price of steel so might have to improvise, however I live in the hills in North Ga. so not so cold but sunny so very little wood should be needed. Might be possible to use no wood except in extreme cloudy weather. I appreciate the video and thanks Tom for getting this old man thinking. God Bless. NW ga.
I would suggest a drain back system for the solar side. Less headaches with heat dumping and other solar issues in your area.
Definitely does not need to be so big!
@peted2770 Sound advice thanks. More than likely this is some sort of dream to have a system like this. Have a lot to learn and a short time to make it happen. At one time or another been able to try different heating methods. Coal as a young boy (pot belly). In my current house I've tried wood heater (Ashley), propane space heaters (Atlanta gas light w/ceramic reflectors), electric (heat pump all electric) and at my age the electric is cost effective, clean, easy at least in my area. It's steadily climbing but Ga. is ranked as a lower cost per kilowatt state.
Tom and I are cut from the same cloth. Homemade 1300 gallon Garn clone boiler, 4- 40yo 4x10 hydronic panels, and 10kW photovoltaic.
got the same system build 25 years ago... works a treat! i actually build the solar pannels...
I truly admire this gentleman.
Nice system. I have been designing something for our property that's very similar. It baffles me that some people may have told him they don't believe it works?? It's engineering, not wizardry. There's science and mathematics backing everything he does. If his setup is producing adequate heat for his home and shop it's because he designed it to produce adequate heat. We're bombarded with solar radiation every day and barely make proper use of it, this setup shows the power of an eco-friendly heating system. If everyone used a system like this, the energy consumption of households in cold climates would be reduced by nearly half annually. That is a massive impact on energy requirements nationwide. Regarding his comment on efficiency of solar thermal water tubes... they're something like 85-98% efficient which is far better than most other means of heating. The science channel Tech Ingredients has a very detailed video on constructing solar thermal water heater systems - not this complex of a system but they go into the science quite deeply so you can design your own.
I use a boiler that I plumbed into my house. Thought about the pex lines under the floor,but just never bothered to do it. My water heater is also on the boiler.
Tom is an old school genius! He reminds me of my dad and that’s a high compliment. Great work!
Man, this was great! This guy Tom reminds me of my old man. He's been heating his shop with a waste oil stove that he built 35 years ago. Still works and hasn't used a penny to pay for heat! So many people gladly give him waste oil. He built a gravity fed tank that holds around 200 gallon.
Classic old school ingenuity .I use some of the same system it works really good
I'm fortunate to have Tom as a friend!
My style of "Old school" is stuck in anything up to 1960's commercial tech. So seeing this setup using solar powering in both heat exchanging and electric conversion panels in addition to old school water heating pipes in floors, and a boiler with heat exchanging for water still looks rather hi tech to thine eyes. Matter of fact, the floor heating pipes setup can be traced back all to the way to old Roman systems. Specifically their bath houses. They had pipes in the floors and separate sections for cold zones AND hot or heated zones in the rooms and floors. One of the first things a Legion outpost would do, if it was going to be more than a temporary encampment was start work on a bath house among all the other projects needed for a fort however far out it was. I can see the blend of old and new school here and, it is glorious.
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I thought my system was crazy, but he wins. I use a diesel boiler for shop & house as well.
Does it get too hot?
This guys amazing. What a cool system and I think I understood most of what he was explaining!
Cool!! Lots of interesting folks out in Idaho. Did 1300mi on dirt on TW200s this summer. Fairfield to Wallace. What a place man!
amazing. Great video I hope you have more Tom content
I’ve had an underfloor Heating system For 15 years and my annex building water in the floor. . It’s common in Europe . I renovated at 230 year old cottage and installed under floor heating throughout ground floor and first floor (first and second floor in the United States)…. The main thing, though was that I inflated all the external walls and the floor 150 mil Nearly 6 inches…. Hardly need to heat the house at all …
insulated
Incredible. Thank you for helping passing on this knowledge.
Glad it was helpful!
I admire his passion and hard work. Seems like a humble guy that people could learn from.
Yeah, I like. Mine is way different, outside wood, looped into domestic water and floor through a few plate HE. Endless supply of free wood in Alaska, but mostly I burn scrap pallets just because there is an endless supply, easy to handle and cut. Love your example.✌️
That is ace going. Like how he said wait it gets worse 😂. Also like that he’s experimented will different stuff and adapted it. Ace going well like it 👍🏼
This is a masterclass in systems redundancy. The larger water bath heat exchanger above the wood fired boiler intrigues me. Excellent video Jonas.
Hes using every medium in his arsenal to store heat. Granted, his buildings probably arent what most consider "cozy" but it isnt freezing either. His property probably idles around 55-65 degrees which is perfectly fine. I personally love 55-60 in the winter so as to not sweat in the bed.
Correct. 55-60 is fine considering that much of the time it could be as much as a 75 degreed difference from the outside. The water bath is less about storing heat and more about being a disconnect from the boiler supply and that's the part that's cool to me. It can be a challenge sometimes to not cook yourself out and still keep a fire going. It's just a really neat buffer. @@johnwirk
it's called a thermal store
Amazing story thx for sharing
Thanks for posting. I have a very similar setup. I can heat my house and domestic hot water via propane, an evacuated heatpipe solar array, or a gasification wood-fired boiler. Each component can work independently or together as a "team." I haven't had a propane delivery for years, but it is there if needed. My "angst" is that I am now an old man and once I am gone, no-one will know (or care) how all the pieces work together! And my "system" is like the one shown here...human interaction is required...the system, as a whole, while GREAT is not automatic; valves need to be repositioned, switches need to me moved. And as he said, if you want heat inside the house tomorrow, you better plan ahead (I have a smaller footprint, so from say 65-degrees it takes about 24-hours to get everything up-to-temp). Regards.
Good morning from Minnesota! He must get enough heat from the panels to keep everything at a reasonable temperature, so that if he goes on vacation, he doesn't need someone to babysit it??
This guy woke up, threw on a hat, said I'm gonna teach this youngin' . Thanks for sharing
Very cool system! Love using the free solar energy to save money.
The guy definitely had me scratching my head when he said he had water in the floor! Interesting that it doesn't freeze when not in use! 😮
5 inch thick concrete with 12 inch thick polystyrene panels under that to insulate it from the ground makes for a huge "heat sink" so unless he abandons the place it will never freeze... all things being equal, remaining the same, and never changing.
A foot of insulation under the floor?@@JohnSmith-yv6eq
This guys house is amazing. the level of thought is amazing. I can already see 3-4 differences how I would design it to be more effectively and with less upkeep. I would have not thought of that idea without watching this though.
Great system- thanks for taking the time to explain
Thanks so very much! This is what it is all about!!!😊
You are so welcome!
Tom is always fun and interesting.
Elegant, brilliant, Love it.
I worked on solar hot water in Hawaii for a few years with a mad scientist, we made systems with the vacuum tubes and even made water pasteurizers for third world projects he was funding. This all makes perfect sense to me. Hawaii wasn't cold but I have stayed in cabins and thought about how you could use Swedish stoves etc. and cobble together combination systems. This is a pleasant surprise to see. It sure helps if you have free wood available to use if you need it. We used vacuum tubes filled with oil to make a circulating solar cooker and cooked a pot roast with it in Honolulu a few times. That project was for Bangladesh apparently, my boss was building them so people could cook without cutting down trees in villages, the trees were becoming scarce. I'm a stagehand rigger now and the way things are going I doubt I can ever own my own home with the prices, but I would do this kind of thing if I could.
Very cool! Smart man
I want to see how his garage door opens. That looked super unique as well.
I noticed that too.
Proper old school gentleman. Very inspiring to watch and listen to.
Absolutely outstanding! 👍👍
Gotta love Idaho.
When i worked in a dry cleaner the boiler for steam for clothes also kept the place warm during the winter. took so long to get started we just left it going 24/7 and would put it to the lowest possible setting when we left
I absolutely love this. Great to hear that there are men out there doing this stuff
Sooo true about water!! When I fill the bath with hot water and close the door after it's full for 20 mins to let it cool down a bit before getting in, the room is sooo warm. When I walk back in the mirror is foggy and its at leat 10-20 degrees warmer in the bathroom. This is such a cool video! Thanks for sharing!
Cool system. An interesting idea would be to use the vacuum tube style solar panels. They work better in cold areas. And the cost is reasonable.
Snow can be an issue. They are more effective in colder climates.
Very interesting thanks for sharing
Thank for showing. Very neat set up
I have been operating solar thermal panels for 35 years alongside a multifuel boiler and a gas system boiler for back up . A plumber I ask in to come and move a toilet made the mistake of looking in the cupboard where the heat exchanger and pumps live. he turned to me and said "don't ask me to come and fix this if it ever goes wrong". I smiled but didn't tell him I had done most of it (not the gas boiler) myself.
Fantastic thanks!
Glad you liked it!
Hasn’t paid money to some company. When you break it down, he is ahead, but the fuel source has a cost. I burn wood for heating and it has a cost. My system is not electric and I can heat as much water as I want without electricity. The simpler you can keep things, the better. I just don’t like having a monopoly determining the cost and or supply of what I need to live. There is all together too much of that in this world.
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People with land can just go into the backyard for firewood. Realistically tho, firewood is infinitely cheaper than paying for electricity when you have an efficient system.
wood, in the UK, double glazing ys a big thing, plastic frames etc, when they remove old wood frames etc, they have to pay to dispose of it, i go collect it, cut it up, use it in my wood burner. Costs me about £100 all in per year.. fuel, electricity, blades for chop saw etc.
Long time thermal engineer here and love it!
As a plumber can’t argue with that system, it’s referred to as a hybrid system both are seen as renewable forms of heat. The layout with the plate heat exchange is a very smart idea. It’s common practice in the commercial and industrial plumbing above 70% of industry in the uk uses a set up like that with a cascaded combi boiler set up. Only think I’d pick on is his pipes aren’t clipped😉. Also pumps in series increase head and pumps in parallel increase flow. Overall absolutely well done hats off to lad there!
The heating system in UK homes sucks. I guess the new homes have better heating or is it just the posh new homes?
@@samchs222 Entirely depends how it’s put in, what’s been put in and who’s done it. I’d say there’s a lot the uk needs to catch up on. Heating engineers are going to be under more pressure to design heating systems correctly due to laws changing about any upgrades on heating systems need to be made with heat loss calculations.
@@hjartm123 in a lay man's term, what you are saying is that a number of heating engineers suck. It's good that laws are coming in to address this issue.
This is what I'm talking about, indoor mass heaters are the way to go. We have an outdoor boiler and there is NO way I'd do that again. Have your fire where you use it, burn HOT and efficient to heat up mass and let that slowly bleed off as you need it and supplement it all with solar heating and PV panels. Love to see it.
Just one problem, learned from one of my customers who did similar. He died, and his poor wife had no idea how to get it all going!!!
I wish I was raised by this man, you can tell men like him built greatness
Nice setup! Very efficient and well thought out.
Hi Tom. Congratulations, you have done very well, so proud of you and all you did and understood. Very high guy in DIY. Appreciate everuthing you did and hope will do. I have in my house (France), a photovoltaique system 5,5kwpp which provide me with an average per year of 85% electricity and able to charge an electric car which cost me around one euro per 100kms. Always looking for something better and less armfull for the planet. Was a pleasure to see a person like you.
Can we get a schematic on how this works?🤣
haha I'll ask Tom!
@JonasMarcinko I agree understand some but it's a little hard to follow if your not knowledgeable on this stuff.
@@JonasMarcinko hey man have you spent any time on the Capella? Was just thinking about it, if you put VGs and maybe a cuff or slats on the wing leading edges it wouldn't break so sharply in a near stall situation. Just saying.
Its easier to think about this as separate systems, which is how they operate. The solar system is simple, one loop of glycol to the panels, and another look that connects to the floor. They only meet in the exchanger since there is no reason to have glycol in the floor unless you will let it freeze. The wood system is very similar to the solar but using the wood stove as heat. The heat from the wood stove heats water in a loop going through the wood stove (custom made) and the water in the giant tank above the stove. There is pipes in the tank that connect to the floor. Basically acting like the exchanger in the solar system with with a lot of heat holding ability in the water. I think he would be running two sets of pipes in the water tank. One set for the garage, and the other for the house. Also the connections to the floor is simple, it is just a regular in floor heating loop with two sources of incoming and outgoing lines. One set to the solar and the other set to the water tank. I would assume he has some sort of check valve, which I think are built into the circulator pumps anyway, to prevent each system from back feeding to the other. There is no point in the solar heating the water tank, and there is no point in the water tank heating the solar.
As a professional HVAC tech, I think this is great 👍 sure it could be done in a more "professional" manner but so what?! This guy did great with what he had. Love the engineering of it! 👏👏👏👏
Nice. Never seen or thought of this before. I knew hot water was the most efficient for heating a house, but dang. Now I want one.
The only time of the year that my water heated floor isn't nice is in the spring when it's cold then hot then cold. When the floor is hot the shop is way too hot and you can't shut it off. But, the heat is simply amazing having cold feet in the shop sucks
Try an outdoor reset control.
@@redjohnson4859 if you stop running the water through the floor the boiler over heats, and the floor is 110 degrees and all that concrete holds it for a long time. If you cooled it with cold water then by night fall you’d wish it was warm again…. I’m just saying where I’m at the Indian summers temps swing so much it’s hard to keep up
Genius yet extremely complicated
What a beautiful creation. Wow! This has inspired me to recreate this masterpiece. Or maybe even something better. Thank you for this wonderful video my friend. Subscribed!
Nice to see there are still "a few good men" left! ( men with thinking brains)
Love it when people say I burn wood it’s free Chain saw free Truck to haul wood free Log splitter free Wood burner free Most of the time you can scrounge free logs or trees to cut up but it’s ass busting work so as far as I’m concerned it’s not free Fuel for truck and chainsaw free None of its free it’s inexpensive but definitely not free.
chiropractor bills...free.
Well…some of the people that think like this will also pay $10/day for lattes while on their way to a gym where they pay a membership. Also hard to put a price on self sufficiency and price stability. I remember a few years ago winter propane went from $1.90 gallon to $5.50 in a matter of a week. Also folks or in Europe last year just about collapsed due to NG cuts and of course putty blowing up his own pipeline 🤦♂️😆
@@garny3766 oh, no doubt. It's the whole 'free' thing that is a little misleading. I"m fortunate to have property that supplies more dead wood than 5 families can burn each year. Let's just say besides the 'teaching moment' to the kids helping gather, split and stack this wood, the lack of having to monitor the propane tank- it's more an 'investment' in a lifestyle that pays dividends... and a middle finger to reliance on outside energy suppliers is kinda fun too. I could've gone solar/wind... for a lot more cash investment..but each place has to be considered. If there wasn't a tree on this place, absolutely.
You really think Putin blew up his own pipeline? lol @@garny3766
Gym membership.... free
very cool, what a smart man to surround yourself with
This technology can be called hydronic in slab heating. It's becoming more and more common. I work as a mechanical engineer designing HVAC systems for buildings. I've seen this method used for very large manufacturing buildings. It can also be used on roofs or in parking lots to prevent and/or melt snow
I have a very simular system except I have a filtration system and a very slight mixture of propylene in the water as a conditioner.....and a -35f mixture for the outside .....my boiler in outside boiler......it also heats my domestic hot water via exchanger
Does this system also provide hot water for the shower, dish washing, etc.?
Yes, both in the shop bathroom and the house. Both have stainless steel tanks with built in heat exchangers, and also electric elements.