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I didn't listen, I should've listened.
so this isn't the final tier list then
Mii Swordfighter is not worse than Ganondorf. Quit playing like he doesn't have a tier to himself I was baited
I like disobeying my disobedience and your tier list explanation kept me all the way to the end BEFORE I could see the actual tier list! >:>
I clicked it before it started
This will most likely not be the last tier list lol
u don’t know that
@@hungryboxCrazy mixup game
@@hungryboxuntil some crazy tech with some b tier charecter turns the s+++ tier
@@hungryboxthey probably aint wrong tho 🫡
@@MelonSkywalkerWE STILL HAVE A CHANCE, GANONBROS. HERE'S HOW MGK CAN STILL WIN
I’m going to be so sad if at least one heavy isn’t in a tier or higher. Edit: GANON ISNT IN LAST YEAAAAAAAAAAAAH BABYYYYYYYYYY Edit: I’m going to kms.
lol
What a rollercoaster of emotions in a single edited comment
what a sad sight to see
Isn't Kazuya a heavy? He's basically a shoe-in for a top-tier slot.
@@gauntlet8026yeah but have you seen what bullshit Kazuya can do?
here you go! 😊 E Tier 0:34 Mii Swordfighter 0:45 Dedede 0:57 Isabelle 1:09 Piranha Plant 1:19 Little Mac LOL TIER 1:53 Ganondorf D TIER 2:18 Lucario 2:32 Zelda 2:44 King K Rool 3:03 Kirby 3:19 Banjo 3:32 Belmonts 3:47 Dr. Mario 4:11 Donkey Kong C Tier 4:34 Villager 4:57 Mewtwo 5:14 Ridley 5:31 Ike 5:52 Marth 6:12 Bowser Jr 6:34 Robin 6:53 Mii Gunner 7:20 Duck Hunt 7:45 Lucas 7:57 Jigglypuff 8:35 Link 8:52 Bowser B TIER 9:32 Toon Link 9:51 Hero 10:13 Chrom 10:30 Wii Fit 10:50 Pichu 11:17 Pit & Dark Pit 11:42 Sephiroth 11:53 Meta Knight 12:09 Incineroar 12:30 Luigi 12:44 Inkling 12:58 Ice Climbers 13:12 Rosalina 13:38 Captain Falcon A Tier 14:16 Young Link 14:33 Mega Man 14:50 Ness 15:07 Sheik 15:32 Falco 15:54 Ryu & Ken 16:34 Greninja 16:48 Byleth A+ Tier 17:34 Sora 17:53 Zero Suit Samus 18:05 Mii Brawler 18:28 Shulk 18:42 Lucina 19:05 Yoshi 19:29 Olimar 19:42 Samus & Dark Samus 20:07 Pokemon Trainer 20:29 Bayonetta 20:52 Diddy Kong 21:08 Wolf 21:30 Mario 21:52 Wario 22:19 Roy 22:34 Corrin S Tier 23:18 Terry 23:38 Min Min 23:53 Pacman 24:17 Pikachu 24:37 Palutena 24:58 Peach & Daisy 25:21 Cloud 25:50 Joker 26:13 Fox 26:41 Kazuya 27:02 Snake S+ TIER 28:12 Pyra & Mythra 29:04 Rob 29:56 Game & Watch 31:05 Sonic 31:57 Steve 17:53 "please kill me"
Damn, the mii swordfighter slander will never stop will it?
I love the "please kill me" tier!
thank you cumrade
the people’s champion
Simon?
as a ganon main I feel honored Ganon gets his own special tier
As a dr mario main i feel jealous
Ganon is S tier in everyone's hearts at least, judging by how excited everyone gets when he gets picked.
Not feeling much better as a Zelda main tbh
@@Finkster5 according to the calebcity satire tier list "ganon S tier, too strong"
@@SuperMarioTheEditoryo a fellow dr mario main?
When Steve was first announced, I held onto the hope that he’d be the best character in the game, solely because it would be funny. Lo and behold, he stands alone at the top 😂
One finger on the monkey's paw curls...
i knew he was going to be the best the minute i saw his gameplay reveal.
Yes, I like it. >:D
I can't wait for next year's final tier list.
literally yelled DAMMIT when Ganon got put in the LOL tier. Got me with the mixup.
I only play against my friends but god damn that character is painful to play. I've played him since brawl but he's just way too bad for me to bother :(
Ganon, lol.
@@VuostaI played him since brawl too and still do it cause he's the only charakter that feels right playing and the other ones I just can't play
I miss Melee Ganondorf lol.
honestly i feel like ganon isn't bottom tier. he's got fans who will optimize tf out of him. characters like mii swordfighter and lucario don't
The fact that Minecraft Steve ended up so broken is hilarious to me
This is always what I'd hoped for if he ever got added to Smash. Here we are lol
Me too
Was a meme for so long and it actually became a reality
@@mylesguda5367 I remember back when people said Steve was low tier. 🤣
@@SealyTheSealjust about everyone was saying minmin was absolutely vile when she came out I just couldnt understand how they could think that with the tools she has
I watched the entire E tier and was like wait… where’s my boy? Exactly where he belongs.
"so for this tier, because it's not ordered, we'll be going through in alphabetical order" "Toon link!“
Was looking for this comment!
And ending with Captain Falcon last behind Rosa luma
19:06 I'm sorry, but that Yoshi clip blew my mind.🤯
Leave it to Yoshidora to somehow make Yoshi look hype lol
As someone who started to learn G&W just because he was this goofy character, realising how powerful he actually is makes me a little happy.
Most the characters I chose because they were goofy ended up high tier by accident
Skyjay proved that the tier list is only an illusion.
Objectively wrong, bad characters are still bad regardless of skill
its based on everything thats been seen tested and known, if you happen to be godlike with an D tier character and it works on almost everyone and you become top in the world that character is gonna get updated in the tier list. look at Yoshi with Melee ever since Amsa started dominating everyone Yoshi got placed significantly higher on the tier list while Yoshi's position on the list list barely changed the last 5-10 maybe 20 years years. a true character tierlist can only be made if u let the most broken OP training bots battle it out for eternity and then check who has the most mins vs the least wins and thats your 'Official strongest character'
@@EmperorPenguin1217 true the only way to test the tierlist is to let 2 MAX SKILL bots duke it out test all the matchups for eternity and the W/L ratio is the tier list
Ganondorf: YEAH, TIER LIST IS A MYTH. 🥺
@@eldambisnah but it is… honestly the ganon low tier unplayeable shit is annoying and played out. I honestly think little Mac is way way worse. Hell my ganon is 13.89 rn
Fun fact: out of all the smash Brothers characters from 64 to Ultimate: Fox and Pikachu are the only two veterans in every smash Brothers that has been consistently good. The lowest they have ever been was between mid to high tier (Pikachu being mid to high tier in melee, Fox being mid to high tier in brawl)
Funny how Pikachu has been in the top half of the tier list in every single Smash Bros game.
The nature of Pikachu's kit. Since smash 64 Pikachu has had all the right ingredients to always be top tier. I infact think it's so perfect he hasn't been changed much since melee in terms of how he is mechanically used.
Pikachu and Fox are far and away the best 2 characters across all Smash games. It's also very close between them for who is the overall best, but Fox has the edge after Ultimate.
@@jsmithers. those two are the true immortals of smash
IIRC Pikachu was the only character in Brawl to not have a negative matchup against Meta Knight, and that's saying something!
@@jsmithers.pikachu is better than fox in ultimate his players are just worse
I'm filled with joy seeing Corrin in A+. I've played Corrin since launch, and the buffs they received throughout the updates were game changers. Of course, I'm not good at smash, so I'm glad people like Leo, Cosmos, Shadic, Neo, and even Sparg0 have showed just how good this character is.
Yes sameee I was always a Corrin main and it was almost a bit upsetting seeing that seemingly no one plays her for so long, but now she finally gets the respect she deserves ^^
Corrin honestly just feels like one of the swordiest swordies with the hitbox sizes. Very satisfying to play with their aerial strings.
Exact same story here. It's so fulfilling seeing everyone realize just how good she can be!
The thing is, do Corrin players actually like the character as a whole
@@BloodNothinglol like, in the games? I've never played Fates, so I have no idea. I just love her kit.
See y'all next week for the next final tier list.
I love to see Dr. Mario finally getting his flowers (Ig… he is only in D tier so only time could tell lmaoo) and not be in F tier😭
For the health of the game, the tier list must continue to change, lest it becomes stagnant and disappear. Here's hoping.
i mean melee is a good example of a game that's not stagnant despite not really having any tier list changes happen. ofc melee is different, since the number of good characters is so small that the individual matchups are far more advanced than anything you'll see in ultimate with the big number of viable characters - but it still shows that changes in the tier list are not the only reflection of advancements being made
A relatively set in stone tier list isn’t the sign of a stagnant, dying game. Melee alone is proof of that and there’s plenty more examples. There’s more that goes to a thriving scene than just the tier list
@@pr-pc8fq i agree but a big difference is that melee's best character, fox, is fun to fight and watch whereas ult's best character is neither fun to fight or watch lol
i assume you mean steve? i feel like the steve hate has been largely overblown by online echo chambers tbh. i personally don't mind watching him (sonic however....). fox on the other hand i actually don't enjoy watching as much. in the end i guess it's largely subjective. but you're probably right, in the sense that - on average - people enjoy fox more than steve. but either way that's not really an argument for the necessity of tier changes in general - just a sad consequence of big N not caring now that they made their money@@asdfasdfadsfasdf
@@pr-pc8fqbro what are you talking about. The tier list has changed so much?
I can really appreciate that at this point, tier lists are not rules. At least not strict ones. Not for Ultimate. And hell, even Melee is evolving in recent times. Despite everything Nintendo has done to their fans, despite how ridiculous the top meta picks are in this game, you will see a talented Ganondorf make some sick plays. You will find Little Mac mains that can shake the nerves of even top players. Results are merely suggestions. Difficulty levels. And importantly, an invitation to push these characters past their limits, so we can make Hungrybox do more tier lists.
Remember when Sonic was considered bad? What a time
Ganondorf at lol tier alone is crazy 💀
Did him dirty. My guy ain't bad enough for his own tier
@@eggdogtim8593I’m sorry but he def is
@supistagarcia4864 let em be delusional
Nah it’s one of the most agreed upon smash opinions
Marth is by far the saddest character in Smash Bros history. He was so hype in every Smash game and was seen as high or even top tier in those games. In Ultimate, they REALLY screwed him up (especially with Dancing Blade tipper being so small while Roy gets a jumbo sweetspot that kills around the same percent). Whoever designed Marth in Ultimate was tired of him being good. But even then, he could STILL go up tiers. He has the frame data of an A+ character and he has his X factor, but he is so much more difficult. If someone actually wins a major with him I bet the Marth player popularity will SKYROCKET.
I enjoyed every second of this video, this was a masterpiece! I still believe the tier list shouldn't matter unless we're talking about anything game breaking/game changing: *Steve*
seeing incineroar's reputation get drastically boosted is so happy to see. One of the most unique characters in the game.
100% agreed, especially cause I always saw potential in him. Nobody believed me. Now look at them
Yeah, very much so. When the game first came out, I just thought Incineroar was just kind of a waste. It wasn't until months later that I picked him up and started consistently practicing with him. Revenge is just ridiculous and I might even commit to actually maining him. I'm glad he is getting more respect now.
I am so happy he called out dabuz in the ike section about his bottom two ike placement, I want what dabuz was having when making that decision
AGREED. So glad Hbox did that, too. I love Dabuz but that tier list is not it.
Hell ya. Can’t wait for the next final tier list
I’ve mained corrin since the release of this game & I love how he creeped his way up slowly to the top over the years
-Plant may be bad, but it’s still a very fun character to play, Ptooie snipes are so fun to hit -Inkling is still my fav since launch, even with people dropping them, I’ll still play them. Such a fluid and fun character to play, everything about them just flows so well together for me and I love it -For being the most middle character of the game, anytime someone says it’s Pit, somehow it just seems in character for him
As a Bowser main, I cry everyday I get juggled by [insert any character]
I am so happy my main (Corrin) is finally good, I have been playing him since he was bottom 30, and now on the verge of the best tier, only makes me want to get better at the game with my main
I still think mewtwo is a sleeper pick. Yeah he has some big weaknesses, but he does such high damage and has some very unique combos. His neutral B and his fair are some of the best moves in the game
As soon as Steve came out, i knew he would be insane once people mastered him. His mechanics are so damn weird (every time i play him i SD on his Up B) but god damn, he's a menace.
“Lucina is just better Marth” oh I’m about to get HYPOTHETICAL in here!!!
I mean, even if all hits were tippers he'd still probably be worse. His tippers don't link into each other like they used to
@@verde7595 yeah I’m mostly just making fun of the Marth defenders that live in some fantasy land where they think they can land 3 raw f-smash tippers at 40% in a row. He’s kind of like smash 4 shulk where he’s just perpetual “potential” but the moment you introduce any human error all that potential is thrown out the window
interesting tier list, thanks hbox! can't wait to see the tier list next year!
Someone should make a tournament where all the best steve players of all the regions and pit them against eachother
Crazy to see G&W at S- last tier and seeing him now at the third best character in the game.
the craziest thing is how much he really shot up from melee. dude just needed to be unbroken lol.
@@beardalaxyikr
I'm so glad sonic is EXACTLY where he deserves to be, and Piranha Plant is FINALLY recognized as worse than Little Mac.
Glad to see Corrin’s been getting some love! Been my main ever since they came out
I'd love to see some Hbox vs the other supreme Puff players. The previous final tier video is still relevant because of how each character gets some mechanical description explaining the tier position. This one is great because it compares the characters by usage and win rate which, in the end, is what really matters in a tier list.
Dedede has an amaizing advantage state and has decent ground speed. He also has suprisingly good vertical recovery
His ledge traps are awesome and he has the best offstage game of any super heavyweight. His recovery can be punished in some scenarios, but he has many options for mixing up his recovery and much of the roster would be risking a lot by challenging him offstage. Inhale is also a pretty strong mix-up and punish. I'm not saying he's mid-tier, but I do think that he's underrated.
@@user-ui4bc5ft6g He could really use a bit of an air speed buff though. Also a faster inhale with better reflections, gordos that are consistent and don't get reflected by everything (should only clank with most things honestly), f-smash that actually breaks shields (don't see why landing up-B shouldn't do this too for that matter), and a way better down air. And while we're at it, make jet-hammer cancellable 😈
honestly Ultimate is new enough still where a tier list can really be a yearly or maybe every 6 months updated thing
Ehhhhh I wouldn’t call it new, 5 1/2 years is kinda massive in terms of meta development, but I would call it consistently relevant to the point where people will be actively trying to define the meta in their own way for a good while to come. Most of the meta is still solved however, which for a new or new enough game isn’t really the case. It just has very deep mechanics that some small scraps of have yet to be uncovered
As someone who doesn't keep up with the meta I had no idea Sonic and G&W ranked so highly. But it was nice to see my main man Terry climb into the S tier
While I've thought Corrin has been underrated for ages i'm surprised to see her in A+ I'm pleased.
Never would I have thought Corrin would be considered the best fire emblem character. I remember a few years ago they got ranked like bottom 15.
corrin rising from doodoo tier at the very start of the game to now nearly s-tier is just beautiful
another amazing video from hungrybox
5:47 that call out to Dabuz made me like this video already LMBO! love you Hbox
I main ganondorf and my brother plays steve. he keeps wondering why he's "so good at this game". prolly cause it's quite literally an S tier versus LOL tier fight?
As a bowser main, i cry at the fact that bowser’s no longer the best non-dlc super heavy
Can't wait for next final tier list!
Everyone knows Mii Gunner is just the unofficial Sans slot.
12:44 Inkling main since day one here. I’m still mad at Cosmos for dropping Inkling for Pythra, he was really cooking with her. Luckily we have Shirayuki as a semi-representative Inkling still should’ve gotten buffed imo, not fair she got zero buffs the whole game lifespan 16:30 Also very nice Kirby Mass Attack music. You madlad
I feel like inkling was fine the problem was the meta was constantly evolving and she couldn’t keep up. She’s good but outclassed and if her kit was buffed, she would be OP
Tbh inkling was mid from the start the character just sucks at getting consistent kills, which is super important in smash in general
@@damajorplaya3804 yea she is pretty bad against characters that can kill easily because most of the time she dies before she can kill them so
16:30 That's Kirby Air Ride
Yeah, Inkling is definitely an odd case. Never got buffed, nor did she ever get nerfed. People just learned how to play against her, and with the menace known as DLC pack 2, she's kinda just irrelevant now. Roller just ain't enough to keep her relevant, and her Boo-yah kill confirm is damn near non-existent with how precise it is. Just a case of the meta evolving and players getting better.
If Amsa took Melee Yoshi from looking like bottom 5 to potentially top 6-8 in Melee, I have a strong hunch that the meta can be pushed far further than this. We may not see an astronomical shake up that makes it look like a completely different meta. but I certainly think some of the A’s and B’s can switch tiers faster than one might expect.
It's already happening with Corrin. People use to think she's middle of the road character. Now she's in conversation as top 3 best sword character in the game.
@@riqua27imagine someone making Little Mac or Dedede meta, would be insane
@@logopiler I don't think one person is enough. The reason why pro players have a better opinion on Corrin in recent times isn't solely because of SHADIC. He is a big part of it. But Neo and LY also make a scene with Corrin help a lot. Not to mention Top players like Sparg0 picking her up and doing really well make it even more apparent.
Id love for Ganon to have his day in the sun, but i suck at smash and winning with him always makes me feel better when i pull it off lol
even tho im new, watching hungrybox videos feels really calming lol ** i think gusty garden was a good choice of music too, good choice lol
This is the first Ultimate Tier List that someone made that isn't a whole movie
I really like that Hbox is bringing attention to players that many people probably haven't heard about
Every player he showed/ named is a well known player lol
@TheTvSmash Maybe they are, but I doubt that everyone knows who the best player of every character is. I just think its cool to give credit to the people who are doing really well since not everyone knows how much effort those players (especially for low/mid tier characters) are putting in
@@TheTvSmashOnly ones I recognized are Jejajeja, Peanut, and MKLeo.
thank you HGOAT i really needed this!!11!1!
I like how you stick the bare facts and don't waste time when explaining this tier list. Thank you, HBOX
Shulk being where he is is the hottest take of the whole list
Should Shulk be higher or lower? I'd say the bottom of S tier.
@mac_chappy personally I'd say top of B maybe but I don't have enough experience playing against or watching to have an accurate take. He just doesn't have the representation to be that high in my opinion.
Shulk could possibly be s+ if played perfectly, he counters every character besides like Pikachu. In theory he destroys Steve, shield monado breaks Steve's crazy combos, Steve is slow, shulk is big and fast. Shulk is the 2nd most underrated character behind corrin.
@@noyes-vw8dv That's because nobody plays him. But I recently watched Tweek Talks Tier List and it still shows all of them besides like Pink has him A to S tier. That says a lot considering his reputation is low.
Doesn’t matter if he’s only better than two characters, I’ll main King Dedede until the day I die
I second Dedede. He's just too much fun. A few tweaks could bump him up a tier or two as well. Too bad we'll never get those.
16:35 Thank you for putting him in A tier! The new official tierlist puts him in B and I am just… WHAT???
The emphasized pause between "duck" and "hunt" made me chuckle 😂
game & watch in top 3.. proud of my mans 🥹
Same 🥰
Hey Mr. Box. I’m not sure if you’ll see this comment but I just wanted to say thank you for raiding my twitch channel on Tuesday. I have had a very tough couple of months and have been losing my motivation to keep streaming but your random raid made my entire year! I don’t think you’ll understand how much this random act has affected me and my desire to keep streaming. Again thank you and maybe you’ll stick around for a stream. I’m sure you’ll like it
You have a really solid tier list, especially compared to others I’ve seen from top players lol.
As an Incineroar main since Day 1 meaning before they gave the likes of his Up Special a buff, I'm glad to see the respect Incineroar is given nowadays. It's crazy to believe one player in SkyJay nearly single handedly shifted the perspective of a character.
Finally, some accurate sephiroth placement
Bro put Mii Swordfighter last but has chakram on the display 💀
Not gonna lie, this was a really good tier list. This is probably the first time I fully agree with a tier list
I’ve been playing rob since brawl because I thought it was cool he was a robot I’m just so happy to have him be good and I never thought he would be this awesome
hbox hitting the shmix on my brain by saying B tier is ordered alphabetically and then going Incineroar -> Luigi -> Inkling -> Rosalina -> Captain Falcon
Exactly it made no sense 😂😂😂
Ganondorf is one of my favorite characters to play. I don't know if there's any one else that can take a stock with 2-4 hits.
Pyra? Doc? Min min? Incin?
I love how most of the top 10 characters thing isn't that they're broken good, it's that they're annoying as f, and your gameplan is to annoy your opponent enough (and, sometimes, throw the audience into deep comatose state)
I haven't really followed Ultimate in a hot minute, so some of these placings like Incineroar in B, base Link below the other two, Zero Suit below regular Samus, and Peach/Palu/Pika outside the top 10 are wild. Top 5 in this tier list are all absolute pinnacles of good game design, like having the best traits of every swordfighter on a single character, being able to use your unmatched speed to play keep-away until you go aggressive, creating your own platforms in a platform fighter, or whatever the hell ROB has going on. Also kinda funny how Ganondorf cannot stop being the worst character in the game despite all the buffs they've showered onto him for multiple games now
Ngl they nerfed steve pretty hard im still waiting for the /kill and /gamemode creative patch 🔥🔥
Remember that when they put Steve, Alex, Zombie and Enderman in 2020, THEY DIDN'T ADD EVERYTHING THAT THEY COULD DO IN MINECRAFT, such as the bow/crossbow and arrows, potions, enchantments, armor different materials, the Trident (also enchanted), the teleportation pearls, the "unique blocks", such as the soul block, slime blocks or honey blocks... and of course they did not add and will never add the Totem of Undying... and much, much more.
The five gods joke had me reeling. I had to rewatch 😆😆😄
With Steve getting more and more useful techs, steve mains getting consistent with phantom blocks and getting out of stuff they really cant get out of normally AND possibly being better than the whole cast by a fair margin without all of those techs… steve isnt just top 1 he basically in his own SS Tier. Otherwise good video though hbox.
I don't have to watch this to know it's a better tier list than debuz's
Corrin being above characters like wolf and roy is crazy
Corrin has had prescense lately in top competitive unlike Wolf or Roy who are characters of smash seasob 1 meta
@@Yokai_Yuri but it's not only a result tier list right?
corrin is 100% above wolf
@@Nox0w It's not, but results are a HUGE factor.
Corrin is certainly better than both at this rate. Way more results and she performs far better against the top tiers. Roy hard loses to Kazuya while Corrin beats him for example.
This tier list actually isn’t bad. Way better than the last one HBox made
3:33 I’m legit surprised people haven’t considered Belmonts to be bottom 10 for the longest time. I do think they’re worse than some of the other E/D tiers, but my god, glad to see HBox put him at #12 instead of C tier. Hopefully anyone who watches the full video can finally see the light and stop considering them a mid tier.
ok now drop the casual tier list where ganondorf is S tier
I'm going to say, the reason the "4 horsemen" are able to beat up the best steve, is because the best steve is carried by fsr the most out of the top players. Acolas actual skill probably at best puts him in the top 30 players in the world. But because he mains steve. He gets number 1 spot. I mean someone like onin, who wasnt a top 100 player in the world was ranked top 15 for a long time, just because he was using steve. Acola is no different besides the fact he is actually a good player, a top player for sure. But not even remotely a top 15 player. Imagine if Debuz actually plays Steve. Thats it. Within the year he will no doubt be #1 player in the world and it wont even be close.
Nah, I'd argue Acola is the ONE Steve main who's not carried by his character (at least not completely). Sure, it may be what solidifies his number 1 spot, but he's still a REALLY good player! His setups and whatnot are not something you'll see from every Steve player, only ones who are actually good. Not like Acola is invincible either, as evidenced by him never beating Spargo in a set (might be a couple of sets when he first broke out that I'm forgetting, but not anything since) and occasional losses against other players, including Big D the Ice Climbers player back in the last Summit. His character helps, but carries him? Not so much.
@@titanbombomega Yeah and he is so godlike at parrying and sdi against the blastzone if you've watched his matches frequently
@titanbombomega absolutely carried XD evidence? His performance without Steve. Acola is good. But maybe a top 30 player. He isn't even top 15 without Steve. He is a really good player. But that doesn't make him godlike at all. He absolutely doesn't deserve to be called the best player, not even close.
@@LordDTwigo Have you SEEN his Kazuya? He doesn't need Steve to win, dude. It only makes winning a bit easier for him. And bro, he's beating the best players in the world. Steve ain't a good enough excuse for him winning at his level. Steve isn't a guaranteed win, otherwise Jake would at least be relevant. You wanna talk about Steve carrying the hell outta someone, look no further than Jake who wins purely off of cheese.
@titanbombomega yes I've seen his Kazuya. Yeah he can win with Kazuya, so can any other "good" player. He isn't going to win any majors with Kazuya. Onin someone who isn't even top 100 in the world, out of NOWHERE was ranked 12-16 for almost a fucking year just because of Steve. Which onin isn't a good player. But then you give Steve to a good player who is like top 30 skill wise, of course he is going to be #1. If Debuz picks up Steve like he said. He will be ranked #1 in the world no questions asked. He is miles more skilled at the game then Acola, along with the rest of the top 15 players in the world.
I was looking for a teirlist video literally yesterday w timing
This was a really good tier list. I think Pikachu should be higher, but besides that I agree with almost everything that you said.
Dr. Mario representation 💊
DRUGS FOR EVERYONE!
Dude I legit got jumpscared when he said mii swordfighter so fucken fast lmao, more people need to play this character man I swear they're (probably) not bottom 2 haha, and they are legit one of the most fun characters to play, try before you deny lol
Mii swordfighter is like smash 4 zelda, super underrated and not bottom 3
Mii swordfighter is actually decent.
Can't wait to see where my main Incineroar lands
Hot take for the new year. 2 different players are going to finally master link bomb footstool combos, and link is going to move up to either high A+ or S when the Final Final FINAL tier list is made.
kirby needs more appreciation, I think he’s lower mid tier.
I would say so too, he has some insane potential but isn’t played enough to truly see how utilized it is
How so?
So happy that Incineroar is getting the love he deserves :D
If you asked me in 2015 that the next bayonetta would be minecraft steve, I would have lost my mind.
Kazuya is the best character outside of steve if you know how to play him. His frame data is actually crazy.
Mii Swordfighter and Isabelle don’t get enough credit, they have some really solid stuff
I’m glad Corrin is getting more attention She can be a genuinely great character and I’m proud to have her as one of my mains
Where was Corrin? I missed her.
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I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure Sora Amiibo support doesn’t need to be patched in. People are already using the data in the game to make their own Sora amiibo it’s just that the official figure isn’t out yet
Last patch 13.0.1 did not include the Sora amiibo data. So they do have to patch the game at least for that.
Seeing banjo ranked so low hurts but at the same time is funny and kinda validates my feelings/opinions. As a Banjo/ROB main (when I play ultimate like once every 8 months (melee better)). Banjo seems to be the character my friends struggle with the most. Had they given him a mix of dr mario and regular marios forward air (like P+ mario) where it can spike or just be a strong fair then I think the character would be much better. But he is just lacking. His best move is literally limited by how many uses and his second best move (fsmash) is kinda easy to bait out. The other positive to banjo is his disjointed hit boxes cause him to clank or trade favorably, rarely is it a bad trade. This is what makes fmash so good aside from speed and damage. My favorite trick with banjo is down tilt, which will cause banjo to slide through and cross up the opponent, turn around f smash. Do this at the ledge to get out of disadvantage and you're set. If down tilt connects then it puts the opponent in knockdown so you tech chase with fair, egg, dtilt or jab lock fmash if they miss the tech. However with all that said I do think Banjo should be ranked lightly higher. Another valuable tool people sleep on is the fact they have 2 projectiles. Which can be used to zone off areas allowing for trapping. Another favorite trick is shooting a single egg or grenade on to a platform and then wonder wing under the platform. Most people see the egg coming so they dont jump. This is definitely more of an online tool than offline but still can work. But lets be real ROB is just better Banjo.