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Timestamps ⏰
00:00 Timeline for the whole Experience
02:29 Manisha Intro
02:58 Balaji Intro
03:34 Were deported people on the same flight?
04:17 What happened after getting out of the flight?
04:33 Was the university targeted for deportation?
05:58 Immigration Question Asked (Balaji's Experience)
08:25 Manisha's Experience
11:59 Balaji's Interaction w/ Immigration Officer
14:47 Balaji's Phone was Checked
15:23 Are doing mock interviews for F1 visa illegal?
17:04 Is paying University Fees ahead of time necessary?
18:31 New artcile giving incomplete information
19:45 Hatred from other students
22:22 Manisha's Got Told about Deportation
26:26 Manisha's Pat Down & Holding Room
31:32 Balaji's Pat Down and Lockup Story
34:03 Balaji's Lockup Room
36:19 Timeline for the whole Experience
37:31 Reaching out to Parents
42:07 Escorted to Board the Plane
44:54 Indian Immigration Experience
50:25 Help of Indian Embassy in the US
52:00 US Immigration Reasoning behind Deportation - Official Documentation
53:36 Next Steps
555:24 Additional Legal Documents Signed at US immigration
01:01:24 Help from US University
01:06:18 Other Student Experience
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My plea to indian students is : Please dont go through any consultancies. Most of these are super shady and connect you with blacklisted universities. If you cant get into a top university, its just not worth it. Me and most of my friends who are in the US, all applied on our own. Thats the way to go.
first of all don't go immigration inside USA do it in abu dhabi or ireland
Even getting into a top university is not worth it, try getting a job in 2023 you have very little chance at the moment. Besides I would advice Indians who have no direct relatives to sponsor their GC to not even think of attempting US now or ever again in the future atleast for thenext 250 years.
They went through IDP, which are also conducting IELTS in India. They are as legit as it can get.
@@drbh6331I believe as first time entry u have to do immigration only in usa from my knowledge..
I don't think IDP is shady at all
Really sorry to hear this guys ! Hope you guys win this case soon!
It's frustrating to see people who are trying to coming to this country LEGALLY to pursue opportunities are being deterred like this, while thousands of low-skilled (and quite frankly really unwanted) people are ILLEGALLY are getting red-carpet treatment at our southern border to come into the US. Hoping both of you get your due justice at the end of all this.
Actually low skilled laborers are wanted and needed in the USA. Who picks the food? Why don't Indians and Chinese come to the USA to pick fruit and vegetable and cotton? Isn't it better to study in your own country and start companies there? There is too much red tape and high taxes in the USA. Stay home. You can even study in your own language. Much easier.
@@PIANOPHUNGUY THE USA IS A COUNTRY BUILT BY IMMIGRANTS.
True but Indians are guilty of the same offences.
💀 why you acting like redneck republican calm down
What does the red carpet treatment entail? Are you willing to get that red carpet treatment? Also those "unwanted" people are literally running the entire agricultural economy of US.
Hearning your experience Manisha and Balaji really melts my heart. I really hope things work out for you the way you want. Thanks for giving them a platform, Parth.
More power to you guys! Stay strong and something good will happen very soon.
Thank you for sharing this. More power to you.
My heart goes out to you and your fellow students. My feelings of frustration and anger are more rooted in the way you were treated than the denial of your entry into the United States, and the profound injustice and hardship that you endured in the process. It is deeply troubling to witness individuals who only sought to pursue education and fulfill their dreams subjected to such unjust treatment. I wish you success.
More power to you guys , i hope you guys will do big in life
There should be a day when no Indian has to consider going to the US, UK, Canada, Australia for a better education and career.
Well said🔥
😂😂😂
It’s possible if mind set of every human is change in usa .. instead of tana give respect no matter if they are kid or adult .. it’s possible but the crab pulling other ppl down so they look good is worst in Indian society .. even here in usa n other country as well 😢
Yeah when India ends quota system...so on 32nd Feb
@@manisherande4568 Very witty reply. I enjoyed reading it. I suppose, enjoy being a second class citizen to the goras then..
Can't imagine, how hard that must have been. Hope you get justice.
For fees students should have mentioned that he needs to sit down with his advisor/counsellor & discuss + decide the courses they should be taking in the first semester.. I am pretty certain that fees are to be paid once you choose your courses after registration!
I feel soo sorry for you guys I understand how disheartening and traumatising it is for you but be strong you’ll get through this … I’m really grateful that you made this video as I was also planning for US next year but if this is how they treat us I’m not sure if it’s anymore my dream to be in …. Wishing you all the best wishes !
No offence...but why every Indian has a dream to be in America.
because in india opportunities are very less and no respect fr employers @@meenathakur4771
there are media reports that there is a small but growing number of americans leaving the toxic environment of the US for other countries. i guess the grass looks greener the other side.@@meenathakur4771
This doesn’t happen to everyone. I had my immigration at Atlanta airport on 25th August and touchwood everything went smoothly. I suspect they must’ve found visa preparation questions or proof that consultancies applied on behalf of these students in their phones. I feel really bad for them and I wish their experience hadn’t been so rough
I can see the pain in your eyes 😢 stay strong ❤
This is really really heart-breaking. I couldn't even imagine being dealt with this kind of situation. I really appreciate Parth for sharing this that you haven't sugarcoated the reality. This is going to be helpful for all the upcoming students and more strength to the people who had to gone through this.
this is surplus population just a burden
My heartfelt condolences. So sorry for your terrible experience.
I just remembered my traumatic experience back in 2016, when it was my first time coming to usa on F-1, I have gone through same treatment as like this guys and my heart goes to you.. As I had nothing to hide and everything was genuine, it took me 8 long hours and answering each officer who were taking turns to investigate. Finally I was allowed to enter USA and they even made arrangements for my next connecting flight. I still do remember from my flight other guys were deported and I was lucky enough to enter.. Stay strong guys!
@@ps8240 - No, I didn't face any difficulties in getting OPT or H1 as I was not any fault. That year it was bad for mostly all international students as it was happening at some major airports, they were scrutinizing strictly and I was there just at wrong place and time.
@@ps8240pi
I had similar experience.
@@kulpranjbcuz of idiot trump.
Which university?
Very very disheartening to see them get treated like this. I hope they can find the strength to work hard and still achieve their goals. We are with you guys.
Thank you ❤
@@balajisrinivas5028 Perhaps you should write to the relevant departments of US and India that this episode has shaken people's confidence in the fairness of the US education / immigration system. That this episode deserves enquiry as it is not understood why atleast some of the students were deported.
It's great thing to add timestamps in the video, thanks for that
I’m so sorry this happened to you guys. Try looking for an immigration officer to appeal your case. My one-cent advice would be to ‘go for state or renowned private universities, uninstall all Apps that have those visa mock groups, and visa conversations and always recall the exact answers you gave during your visa interview’. Also, always maintain eye contact and be confident when speaking with any immigration officer.
With so much of genunity still you guys have faced such a saddened situation. God will make your lifes much beautiful with new opportunities than you imagine. We are with you!
You guys stay strong! Better days will come soon. It's really unfair that you guys had to go through this.
Disheartening to hear that Manisha and Balaji!!! Hope you guys find a super strong way above soon.
I am really curious what does the University have to say in this? This has to be brought to the attention of politicians and human rights lawyers in the USA. There is no justification for taunting.
Universities are quietly paying Indian Pimps (Agents, so-called consultants) to bring more foreign students to their campus so their bank accounts get fat with 3x of the tuition and fees. It is all a racket and the poor students and their families are innocent victims in this.
What do you want the University to say? They can't say anything about entry to the US.
@mesbahulhoda9539 There is no supporting statement from the University stating that are students with legitimate admission in their programs and should be given the rights that America recognizes ALL human beings have of innocence unless PROVEN guilty. That's nothing unreasonable!!!
what will they really say...MS in such universities are just cash cows...
@@meerapatankar7275 if uni says it, then from next year onwards, most of the students to that univ will be sent back and obviously univ looses international students and $$$$
Thanks Parth for sharing this with us. More power to you Manisha and Balaji, you guys are very genuine and will definitely thrive in your life. Really sorry you had to go through all this.
Guys,when too much bad happens,something best will happen with you.More power to you.
I am sorry to hear. My recommendation would be: 1. Always come to state university. If you want to switch after one semester, you could do that. 2. Always bring travelers check with you to show one semester's fee and living expenses. This will act as a proof for expenses at the port of entry. 3. If you got a scholarship, good for you. Keep travelers check in the bank - just in case. 4. Delete unnecessary apps, chats, emails from electronic devices. This is new, but lets be more careful.
why state university?
Achha?
Thank you for sharing this Parth. This was very disheartening to hear. I hope Balaji and Manisha get the justice they deserve. More power to you guys ❤️ It would be really helpful if you could make a video about all the rights that immigrants have in such scenarios.
There are no rights. Immigration officer can deny entry. They could not satisfy the immigration officer and that's about it. No justice or injustice
We are have to make this reach higher authorities so that it won’t repeat to other people and I really hope the students get justice over here .
Just a friendly reminder, students do take help from consultants to make the process smooth but here they expect the students to independently apply for the colleges and prepare for interview by themselves without paying any external agencies to work on behalf of them. That is a drawback if they’re able to find some conversations between you and the consultant. With that simple reason they can deny entry into the USA. Just be careful with your chats and emails.
Why the same Immigration agents after retiring start their KZhead channel to advise these kids on how to face the questions and how to prepare their applications? Why is that not illegal.
There is no words to understand the pain all of you went through.ppl who criticize I have to say one thing be in there shoes and go through that pain you will understand it. You don’t know years of hard work I’d been taken away in one day. Iam soo sorry for all of you guys. I pray you will keep chasing your dreams. Try different countries and please don’t loose hope. I hope all the best and god bless you.
By doing hard work prove to them that you guys are the best. Best wishes! definitely you will succeed with more flying colors.
Very sorry to hear your case. Good luck to both of you. I hope you will try again and come to US legally and do good in your studies. Good Luck !
Someone in US should file a complaint and launch an investigation.
A comment has just been shared by an Indian about Indians being third after Mexicans to cross the border illegally. Shady consultancies have even ruined the H1b visas. But your comment puts the entire onus on the US investigation. Look at what Illegal Indians are doing to taint other honest Indians. Arrogant comments by Indians who think their country is the paragon of virtue!! That's why Indians are running anywhere they can illegally too
He will be investigated instead and deported on some ground which is 200% likely.
My heart goes out to you guys who genuinely wanted to study but instead were treated like shit!! I was speechless especially after the five seconds incident. Kudos to Parth for sharing their side of the story, the true story!
True Abhit.. We are genuine students with an intention to study and succeed. But the immigration falsely accused us of random things and stated we are not LEGITIMATE STUDENTS TO ENTIRE USA.. 😢
@@balajisrinivas5028 bro can i get your number or any other source so that i can contact you?
@@balajisrinivas5028 just asking, can't these so called immigration officers be legally held for their actions ?
@@balajisrinivas5028 Sorry to hear what happened to you bro. Just stay strong, try to at least clear the ban.
@@shivamprasad511 they can be . Who will take time and file a case against immigration officers like these who will illegally deport without any proper reason alteast good officers should not entertain these behaviour
So heartbreaking 💔.. hope u guys get justice.
This is hear breaking , so sorry to hear their story
To be honest “Indian students” have been breaking rules by doing this openly (I have done my masters in Midwest so I know the mentality of off-campus jobs) and things have been escalating. This is like unfortunate event happened to honest students. Sorry for you guys. But this is a real issue where our own students come here, take rules for granted using freedom in wrong way and then honest people suffer. That’s why I always say USCIS should crackdown on shady consultancies and strict action against rule breakers.
Absolutely agree with your comment. I have people in my family too who have broken the law and taken jobs. Many Indians are guilty of breaking laws thinking they won't get caught. But this is the result for honesty in this case
lol its not just the "INDIAN STUDENTS" bro! stop singeling out INDIANS! and btw they KNOW that!
@@dmr-Prh-32n-QNQ Telugu students
It's not about breaking rules but having a valid visa and not letting them in .Wonder if they could be treated the same in another country .Zwhat could be the reaction. Usa immigration behaves like a law into themselves
Ok white salve , you think only Indians do ?
This is so mind-boggling , more power to these students!! God knows where's the humanity nowadays
Nothing to do with humanity but rules and the laws of countries have to be enforced. The sheer number of Indians seeking visas all over the world is the problem.
Being an International Student I can surely feel the pain you all guys will be facing. It's tough to give you a next step but a hope is always there. I hope Indian Government and Officers will surely have a look in it and will save your career.
I hope they do
what pain? suckers are suckers
Why u come USA .. India have best study why come usa
Manisha and Balaji, I truly believe the both of you will fulfill your dreams and have your ideal careers irrespective of location. Do not let some disgusting, inhumane authorities shake you. Stay strong, get over this obstacle and keep going!
+ frogo567. Melbourne, Australia. Well said. Stay strong and move on.
Our immigration officers are not 'disgusting'. Shameful language on your part. Entitled little man.
That may be so. But these students did not get common kindness in treatment : some rest, food, bathroom privacy, information to their next of kin@@jimr3998
Pls requesting you both to stay strong as .. it’s clear how smart n ambitious you both are.. do not listen to hate comments around you.. sending love ❤️
What happened is really Sad but stay strong guys , if you have the patience and enery please fight the case else move on . May God give you strength .
Sorry to hear what happened to you guys. Praying for a happy future.
I would say the fact the fee wasn’t paid was a big concern to the officers. I study in dublin and the first thing I produced at the immigration was my fee payment confirmation and once the officer saw that there was no further question.
Don't know about fees in other countries, but in the US, the fee is based on the credit hours you take per semester. Therefore, the fee is not fixed.
Sad to hear. Something great is in store for them in India itself. God give them courage to cope with the trauma.
Very hard ,i m really sorry for all 15 but please stay strong ... Experienced a bit of a experience as well Stay strong please......❤
Feeling sorry for you guys May God bless you and give you strength
Small Sad people can only send hate and nothing else. Stay postive all of you guys who faced this situation YOU ALL HAVE A VERY BRIGHT FUTURE AHEAD OF YOU. I Promise you. Sending Love from Pakistan
I feel bad for these students. I do want to point out though that you don’t need to study aeronautical engineering for becoming a pilot. You need to go to flight school (at least in the United States). This may one of the reasons why the officer was skeptical (not justifying it all but trying to state a root cause at least in Balaji’s case). Hope it all works out for the best
I totally agreed with you...Balaji's reply is raised anyone eyebrow. Officer did his job that was they trained for. They had sense of smell that these people are coming as a student with the purpose of job or settling down here. But I feel bad for these people.
Balaji’s response triggered this. In US, you can become a pilot after 12th grade. You don’t have to study Aeronautical engineering for that.
When you are all over the place, there are suspicions to happen. Though it is unfortunate, suspicion is their job.
@@raghujoshi Also since 9/11, a brown guy saying to an immigration officer that he wants to become a pilot is a "red flag" lol.
I had a similar experience but luckily I wasn't deported. Landed in the country on Aug 3 in california at SFO. After immigration I was made to sit in a room. I had to sit there for 6 hrs before they called me for asking questions. Luckily they were satisfied with my answers and they allowed me to leave. Today I realised how close I came to being deported.
Even I was stopped for 5 hrs at Los Angeles checked my documents thrice line by line , took my mobile ,checked chats and mails , did a varification call to my friends in US All importantly even i was heading to st louis university. Luckily i cleared immigration
is this happening only to saint louis university?
Seems this univ is DOOMED !@@supriyaponnaganti7638
Sorry this has to happen to you guys, but listening to what bhalaji has told the officer, don't get me wrong, telling the officer that he has to sell his bike and mortgage his home for the loan, would have made the office think he ( balaji) will not be able to support himself and would do some side hustle to meet his needs.hope for the best.USA is not heaven.
America is overrated and over hyped ....many better and safer countries to go
💔My heart is broken hearing these stories. Parth, thanks so much for sharing these experiences, super enlightening! What is really frustrating is how the current US government is letting millions of people illegally cross the border with no accountability and then treats these students who do the hard work to come the right way legally as criminals. I’m so sorry for everyone who had a bad experience like this, especially when coming to pursue your dream in America. I really hope there will be more investigation & accountability into this recent situation. Please reach out if anyone learns more! 🙏☕️
The problem is these students stay illegally after completing their Masters program to seek work. Our citizens here in the US are now not getting work as these guys are taking them away. So, if they are here to study, then don't seek work after, go back. Lying is no longer going to work. Besides, India is the place to be. The US is declining. So perhaps, it was for good reason.
@@suhasini1354 Maybe they won't lie and work illegally if immigration rules weren't so rigged against them. Look, people don't always wake up one day and think about doing something illegal just because they wanted to, its their circumstances that forces them to when they have no better choice. Its easy to sit in your comfort zone and virtue signal how you made it here legally so everyone else should follow the same, when you're overlooking the fact that immigration rules weren't this rigged back in the day. Also, like OP mentioned, there clearly is a double standard here when it comes to targeting illegal activities. The folks who cross the border illegally, who barely have any technical skills, are hardly targeted for working, while Indian students who actually make it here legally are more often targeted even though they are more than deserving to be here for their technical skills. Think about that.
from your name at least i an guess you are someone of indian origin. why not you try to find work here in india? beside assuming for every indian is coming to seek work illegally is foolish as by that argument even your parents have been immigrants but they did not do illegal activities. they did everything by law. @@suhasini1354
whatever it is, it's their country, and their rules.
@@Ghostrider-ul7xnBut ultimately it's their country. one shouldn't dictate how other countries handle their home affairs. Going to USA isn't anyone's birthright. Last year I was set to go to the USA for my MS in Purdue university Indiana, then dropped the whole idea considering the staggering cost of living/studying and risks involved People should act less entitled and stop thinking US as some ultimate dream come true destination. If you are a potential Harvard graduate with ideas that could shape the world then yes you may do better in the USA than elsewhere, but most people who go there attend worthless courses in tier 3 colleges.
There are so many red flags as one of the comment mentioned. I completed my MBA from UT Dallas and from my experience officers are generally very supportive . Students are not 100% clean in this case. Big lesson for new students.
Honestly I wouldn’t say so, because everyone does not have the same experience all the time. This is pretty clear they were targeted and I have heard some immigration officers just arbitrarily make up their mind to trap someone just to feel like they did their job. I usually don’t have issues but once I was asked to show my grade card on my phone once coming back from vacation in India. My friend had his US bank account details asked and unnecessary questions like why was the account created with this bank.
In the comment section, I once again see the same issues, people are quick to point out the blame to either the consultancy being "shady" or the University being "blacklisted". Why can't you understand that its not always necessary for these cases to have a solid reason behind the deportation, sometimes it actually is random chance. I feel like people are trying to assure themselves that "It will never happen to me" and so are readily attributing the blame to other factors
getting admitted to a university, then passing the visa interview, they were stopped right at the tip. May Allah put them in a better place than they applied to. 😊
It was not easy to listen to this ordeal. I'm so sorry these students had to go through this horrendous experience for no reason. It broke my heart when I heard Balaji tell that a superior officer was applauding the other officers in front of these kids. And the male officer threatening Manisha about the signature, that's just outrageous. I really hope the Indian embassy acts on their behalf and gets their records straight so it doesn't affect their future.
That's true Divya.. Now we are completely clueless as to wht to do next.. We are banned from entering US for 5 years... Going to another country is hard wrt my US Visa Cancellation.. Its hard to go back to my prev job again 😢.. So it's just horrible.. Hope no one goes through wht we went through 😢
@@balajisrinivas5028 Bro karma will hit them, they know they have done wrong. But Balaji bhaiya I know you are smart and Manisha di as well. Try to ask hr from your previous company to take you back. Or else try another company.And yes BALLS TO USA
Please stop commenting about the highhanded Immigration Officers. This is typical Indian hate comments aimed at the US. Rules must be followed and it is their country. Some comments have been objective but the majority Indians think that everyone else owes Indians a debt somehow. Don't play the victim with such comments
@@agnescraig2912 Exactly, “high handed” like you said!
@@rishayshandilya1817man idk you sounds a bit entitled. As far as I know I had great experience with my EB5 visa and immigration officers. They had genuine question about my money and work n I answered them honestly then I was allowed to enter.
I'm sorry that this has happened. But not paying the semester fees despite of what the professor said seemes like a cue that was against masters enrollment in the officer's pov. So at least a portion of the 1st sem fees could be paid to avoid this.
Everything happens for a good reason ... Dont lose hope fellas ... India is a land of opportunity. You guys will succeed in life. Time will fly .. and it will heal everything...
Here 😂😂😂😂, yeah right
Such traumatic experiences make future students to not even consider going to the states! Such inhuman behavior from the officers and the many loopholes in the system. It’s absolutely pathetic! More power to Manisha and Balaji, this is from a fellow Bengaluruean Hope you guys get the Justice you deserve
Lol
agreed
Even former President of India Mr. Kalam had undergone full body searched at US airport. Shahrukh Khan was also held at the airport several times.
But how can they go without paying any tuition in advance…? For kindergarten I have to pay the whole year in advance. They reached their no funds no tuition even american citizens Students also hv to pay
Really sorry to hear what happened with them, however I do think having proof of preparation for immigration questions and mock interviews on your phone, and not paying the semester fee are two big red flags!
Why have these students had Whatsapp interviewing questions and answers with Immigration? They probably are not good at English. Definitely a red flag and then not paying for the semester. As Shah Rukh Khan has commented on his US Immigration experience "Whenever I (Shah Rukh Khan) get too big for my boots and my ego goes stratospheric I should visit the US coz they bring me down to earth with a bang!!!
@@agnescraig2912why is America heaven or anything? 😑 it is traumatizing af.
@@spainwithoutans792 its the best country in the world..wake up
@@premiumguy1504 yes, from an economical point of view. But school violence, high cost of living, high crime-drug-mental health issues, racism, crazy cost of medical treatments etc. I didn’t even think harder to write these things.
@@spainwithoutans792I've lived in US for last 4 years and I'll tell you that it's a stereotype and exaggerated. It's Still far far better than India where I can actually trust people here without fear of being scammed and people are actually civilized here.
Manisha & Balaji , Kudos to both of you for telling your part of the story. Its very hurtful to be treated the way you both were treated. Apologies on behalf of the entire humanity. Please take this in stride and let this experience not determine what you do in your life. You will be successful in whatever you do in life.
Manisha, Balaji, studying in Europe may be an option. Many courses are in English. Hungary offers scholarships to students from several countries, including India - around 100 scholarships a year from each country, i think.
Sad to hear that this happened Manisha and Balaji.Hope your fight wins and you guys get your justice.
Thank you ❤
That's what happens if you fake your toefl and gre and talk with a butler english
This happened to me in the past at the immigration-very traumatic experience. Talking rude and scaring that they will destroy my life and profile. The officer who was dealing with me showed racism. He started asking me a about my university job how much I earn, and targeted to check my bag. They found a pickle in my bag and they charged me a hefty fee and in the meantime when I was in line to pay the fee - he started taunting me that in the future you need this document of evidence when you apply for green card - at that time I was a F1 student.
It really isn't "racism" but nationalism. Americans aren't studying math or computer science that much due to the classes having over 80% foreign students. American college students will study business or other majors instead. This has been going on for over 40 years. Back in the early 1980s if you went into a college class room and it was filled with Chinese or other Asians most Americans would turn around and walk out. American high schools don't push studying math as they do in Asia and therefore when Americans reach college they are about 2-3 years behind. Asian students bring the average up and Americans don't like competing with that. The US education can't change this for the next 30 years. There isn't a Russian satellite going up like with Sputnik in 1957. High school is mostly babysitting with a little studying and sports and other fun things. Also Asians have tiger moms who push their kids to study all the time.
@@PIANOPHUNGUY@PIANOPHUNGUY If any American has an interest in the field and is willing to work hard, no one is stopping them from studying Math or Computer Science. Everybody just wants a better quality of life. How is it Asians fault if an American doesn't want to compete or work hard? Is it Asians fault that the education system isn't pushing math down high school kids? Having tiger parents is not amazing. The stress and trauma lives with you for a long time. If you really want something you should work hard for it and not give excuses such as competition. America is a country built by immigrants. This particular officer was bent on sending these people back, he didn't even give supporting documents. This is racism.
It clearly tells you on the Immigration and customs paper which must be filled by every passenger No Food items. Yes a hefty fee is the result. Racism was what you called out but hey Indians are more Racist than YT folk. Northern people in India vs the Dravidians and dark people in the South. Rey quick to judge others but a little introspection on Indians is very much needed. Am commenting on my lived experience in India
Exactly one hundred percent Indians are racist and rude and that causes trouble for them if they were polite respectful
Who carries a pickle in their bag? What is this?
I know many are saying in comments that you can argue with immigration officers but it is not advisable at all. Once they start suspecting you or any immigrant it looks actually they decide the decision before they even talk to you. Don’t worry india offers wonderful opportunities now a days even if u can’t study in USA. I feel it is no loss. I am positive you will have wonderful life.
My heart goes out to you . Can't even imagine what you guys went through.
Dont worry these things come to pass. Just stay confident n believe in yourself
Weird logic the US has! Undocumented migrants "welcome" and documented immigrants "Go home"! But in this case is complete RACISM towards these guyss...
Yeah
We Indians are second or third after Mexicans to illegal cross the border. Shady consultancies have ruined H1B visas. So our reputation is hitting us.
Stop playing the Rascist card!! Indians are more racists than anyone else. Am of Indian origin have heard more Indians call each other Kali or Kala. Is that Racism?? These 21 had gone to the US from the same place at the same time to the same campus. Some had not paid their fees. Nothing but arrogant comments by Indians on how the world should treat them or that the US in this case must give All Indians the Modi welcome.
Your reply is very accurate. In the Gulf, where I worked, Indians were considered the lowest paid workers (slave like). My salary was halved overnight by my Arab boss because my British boss had, according to the Arab, paid me too much. Thankfully will never go back. Indians by having too many children have created this mess for ourselves!
@@agnescraig2912 These students were coached for the Immigration/Arrival interview. It's suspicious.
This doesn’t happen to everyone. I had my immigration at Atlanta airport on 25th August and touchwood everything went smoothly. I am also here on an F1 visa for my Master’s, but my university is a reputed one. I suspect they must’ve found visa preparation questions or proof that consultancies applied on behalf of these students in their phones. Also the fact that the dean and HOD were in communication with you is odd. The HODs of good colleges don’t have the time or bandwidth to make friends with students, let alone get on zoom calls and all. It feels like they were also Indian or specifically South Indian and were involved in nepotism due to that. Otherwise this “homely” atmosphere is not possible. I feel really bad for them and I wish their experience hadn’t been so rough
It is not unusual for faculty members to be in touch with prospective students irrespective of their ethnic background. I know of faculty members traveling to the airport to receive beginning PhD students.
I’m sorry this happened to you Here are a few takeaways for other students like me: - they were travelling in a huge group - they didn’t seem to have sufficient funds - they were all going to the midwest to study - as an f1 student, we can’t depend on on campus job to pay for our expenses, we need to show funds - visa interview answers seem scripted Lessons for the rest of us - don’t travel in a group - don’t prepare for visa interview - have enough funds to pay for the education and stay All the best to the rest!
Thanks But I have a doubt, what is wrong with midwest ?
@@prosalmanplays7985 The problem is if 1 person in a group is fraud, then they will assume all are fraud.
@prosalmanplays7985 maybe the universities in that region are all black-listed. Not sure.
Okay, but none of these takeaways makes sense and warrants deportation. Seriously, there is literally nothing illegal here from my point of view. If one has scholarship that covers most of their expenses, why should they worry about funds? When I was given PhD admission, I didn't have a single penny in my bank account because I was awarded assistantship funding plus scholarship that covers everything. Even the tuition fees was waived. What bullshit is this.
@@prosalmanplays7985 Midwest isn’t known for education
Canadian immigration, for the past couple of years, has opened the luggage of younger tourists to see if they have copies of resumes, laptops, etc. Also, phones are regularly checked these days both by the US and Canadian immigration.
Good, if u don' like it; stay back home!!!
We were a group of 5 international students landed on 23rd of August 2023. 4 of us were successful in clearing the immigration at Chicago Airport but 1 of us was held back by the CBP officer and then was deported. His visa was cancelled by that CBP officer We landed at Chicago Airport just because we got 50% cheaper deal as compared to flight to JFK. We all were to attend Hofstra University, New York.
Why was the 1 deported? Fake or genuine candidate? Just reply, please dont @me
@@vaibhava4775 Genuine candidate. With all genuine documents. But the CBP officer asked to show the availability of funds in real time logging into internet banking of his parents. Which was not possible for him, first of all, his parents were not availing an internet banking facility from their bank, secondly, even if they were having this facility, how can he login into internet banking of his parents. Internet banking doesn't work like this.
Felt really sad for them 😢😢
I am very sorry to hear this! These young men and women went through a lot of hardship
Stay strong !
This is unheard of for core engineering branches. Its quite common for the IT folks with low-ranked university admits to be denied entry. Probably, an internal issue with the CBP which will never be known. Nevertheless, Mr. Balaji wants to become a pilot after MS in AE*? Anyone investigating would find that strange. On similar lines, Manisha wanted management courses with MS in ME? It would have been easier to take the experience from Sweden and then plan future studies. While the CBP officer was probably wrong in his assessment and acted unprofessionally, students need to really fine tune their aspirations while going overseas for study.
my guy, you clearly do not know what aerospace engineering is.
@@adityamorey728 Typically one would go to a school like Embry Riddle (or a good AE school with practical curriculum) if more keen on flying. There's nothing wrong in pursuing their ambition, but if you'd look at the AE website of SLU, its extremely thin. A random school for MS makes little sense, but its just a frank opinion based on experience. Furthermore, you'd need to show all that $$ for a private school and flying hours. Its around $150-$200 for a teaching session in a Cessna 172.
I think the problem was the mock interview questions. Questions they ask during immigration are personal questions so the answers should come from your own mind. Thinking from an immigration officers point of view who’s always trained to see the worst you’re someone who was trained to say supposedly “right answers” from someone instead of coming from your life and experience
Shouldn’t their job be to see if there is anything wrong in their answers ? Its the same logic as to failing a student that he prepared for an exam as he is supposed to write whats there in his head
@@vam333 except this is not an exam, there are no right and wrong answers. The difference is between genuine and being prepared by someone else. Ethically, you're supposed to frame your own answers based on your own research not based on a question bank and acceptable answers provided by someone else.
@@adityamorey728 exactly, there are no right or wrong answers, only Truth. It is better NOT to be coached on answering questions. There is no need for rehearsal when you are telling the truth. Only when there is some hidden agenda, one needs to be coached to "say the right answers".
Sadly there are a number of dubious universities operating in the US (and Canada) that are supposed to be “online” universities. These often serve as vehicles for illegal immigration to the US. It is unfortunate that genuine students sometimes get penalized, as is the case here. Every country has a right to determine who crosses its borders and sometimes the process can be unpleasant. Sadly, Indians have been known to abuse the system in the past and I have personal experience with this. I came to the US in 1998 as a SAP consultant. I had several years of experience with SAP and also a certification from SAP. But That was a time when anyone who spell SAP could get an H1B and that lead to a lot of abuse. So immigrations agents became extra strict about such jobs. Sadly the actions of a few dishonest people affects everyone. Most telemarketing scams today are calls from India and that gives everyone a bad name.
For profit schools?
Ok, what you say is true but they are nicely welcoming illegal people who are drug lords and criminals. The state of California encourages criminal behavior. The percentage of abuses as you speak made by the Indian students is miniscule compared to the mayhem and total society failure being created by the illegal drug mafia. Some Indian students may be abusing their students/work visa but they never created mayhem or rattle a society. That is the irony here.
So sad what happened to these students, Make sure you have enough funds for education and your lodging & food or some one could sponsor you for financial responsibilities like I am taking full financial responsibility for my brother's son. We are in Florida, business entrepreneur and US citizen. I would say don't give up, try again next time and learn from experience. Good wishes for all of you. * Make sure
I did my master's at USC, where tuition fees are paid based on the number of units(credits) you registered for. Many universities only let you register for these courses after in-person passport verification. So, you would not know how much your tuition will cost when landing. Immigration officers must be well-informed about this.
If they were able to show proof of funds like bank loan, account statements when questioned, it would've been resolved right away. some immigration consultancies prepare fake documents to prove funds and looks like same happened in their case.
But they can get approximate amounts of traveling checks … man they arrived without any funds to be able to pay in future… bet they would take one credit and work rest time
@@anusehgal7253 Doesn't work like that for international students. Colleges only issue i20 when sufficient proof of funds is provided. Also, there's a minimum credit limit per semester, like 7 credits or so.
@@sunny2253 that May be so but how come they were not carrying money for fees later
@@anusehgal7253 I took a loan during my masters and my bank only transferred it once I reached US and got my classes assigned to me. Usually there is a gap between start date and when your advisor assigns you courses and you can ask bank to transfer during that gap. And you can ask bank to provide a letter stating that the student has loan approved by us for X amount.
Very traumatic. I do understand the social pressure, specifically due to the excitement and publicity that builds up leading to the departure day. But, considering that all of your papers were in order and assuming from what I heard that neither proper procedure were followed nor appropriate paper work was created, I would suggest that you fight it out. Some biased immigration officer, if they are, has no right to spoil a career. Pursue through appropriate channels, the MEA, the SLU, as well as the relevant US department.
Thank you for understanding how it feels.. Also, we are trying to fight it.. Hope we get justice 😔
This part I have to agree..added to the fact that if you return for some reason whatsoever in future..they think something must have gone wrong or you fucked up and they keep talking behind you
@@balajisrinivas5028 Bro, so sorry to hear this all. Please let me know about any updates you have on this, because one of my friends also faced the same thing on 23rd of August 2023 at Chicago (ORD) airport. Please let me know the ways to connect with you.
@@balajisrinivas5028 sorry to hear about the trauma.. if you could stay in India. The next 10 years are going to be great years for India for work and starting a business. Remember grass is always greener on the other side
@@higherbeingXhahahah with modi it's impossible
Were they planning to pay off their fees with assistantship stipend? Just curious
Hey Balaji and Manisha . Thank you so much for sharing this. It takes a lot of courage to share this traumatic experience. I'm really sorry about this experience. It is so shameful that that were trying to taunt you. This was racism. They will not have done this to anyone else. I really hope the Indian embassy takes this seriously. And if you find any updates please let us know.
I feel bad for both of you I came on a F1 visa back in 1983 without any assistant ship for the first year for a MBA I was more afraid at the US embassy interview as I was coming for. A non engineering or science study. I never found any difficulty at the port of entry in Boston Your experience was an outlier and maybe you can get a chance to come back to the US from a different university
1983 is a different era. As you say, the visa interview in India was the tough one at that time and easy at the port of entry., if you have all the documents Things changed after 9/11. This story is bizarre and proper due process was not done and the taunting is racism. Hope they can get a good lawyer to represent them but all this is money and time. So, unfortunate.
Dyum my story is the craziest : 1: Dad in USA for 8 years as an asylee 2: I had not paid single $ to the college 3: Came for SEMO (Missouri) 4: Came 1 months early at SFO (Airport)(CA) 5: Was the only one to be questioned at custom for more than 30 minutes by 5 officers 6: They asked about my uni and i told them about that and they said it's a answer form google 7: I also forgot my orientation date and had not booked flight for Missouri 8: I told them about my father as well i didn't lie a single thing 9: Also my bank statement was fake And I still got entry to the USA.
Imaoo i hope your saying the truth
I think you should write to the local congressman or senator explaining your position. It is easy to find the email info about them and usually they are very helpful
I doubt they'll take any meaningful action regarding this situation. I mean, seriously, I was born in the U.S. and they rarely seem to prioritize our concerns. Do you honestly believe they'll address this bunch of incompetents?
Took a lot of courage for the two to come in and share their story on the internet. Don't lose your heart. Keep up with your good work. The world is pretty large, it's not the end of the world if you did not get to US, you can find yourself probably in a different place where you may enjoy your lives, reach the goals you initially set out to do. Stay positive. I wish you guys the best in your future. For the host, you should have invited an attorney during the podcast, and let the attorney address the two and may be provide some guidance. A sound advice from a professional could have been more useful. And for the rest, if you are ever in a situation with the police, ask for a lawyer!!
Students who are deported need to understand that if the officers feel intimidated or threatened by their appearance or their way of answering questions, usually will not be granted permission to enter. Coming as a big group for same universities is a big problem. Even though the students had a good interest in studying abroad, it seems like the officers didn’t like the way they answered. You can’t be so aggressive in answering the question. You simply have to be smart and genuine. There are so many countries around the world to pursue higher education. I think students should educate e themselves first before coming here. I hope these suggestions help people
So, they are loving incredibly loved by the illegal drug lords and mafia coming in.
I'm so sorry for what you guys have to go through but there are thousands of south Indian students from Lewis University that are working at gas stations and pizza stores. You can hardly understand them when you start a conversation but I swear they all have one common storyline "I'm doing my Masters from Lewis University". Obviously most of the legit students are going to suffer because of these people that have found a loop hole to get student visas and especially during the pandemic it felt like the flood gates were open and in a 50 mile plus radius from the university every small desi business you'll find illegal student workers.
This is so sad 😢 but I honestly feel you should have asked for an attorney as soon as they asked you to swear that you are saying the truth. This treatment is horrendous 😢
Heart Breaking 💔
This story is truly sad to read and hear. I have 2 children studying in the US - all I can say is going to good quality schools in the US in very important. Also, having paperwork for proof of funding, as well as paying your fees before leaving India, is also a very good idea - shows added commitment. Consultancies are not all bad - can't generalise them just like we can't generalise students - just depends on which kind of consultancy. All in all, still unfair, whats happened, but trust me, good quality state schools in the US is a good idea. Might be a few 1000 USD more, but makes everything, including immigration and jobs much easier. I wish the very best for you both in your future. Take care.
Yeah you are 💯 % right
Moral of the story, don't be afraid of anyone I wonder how someone can Force others to sign papers,In my opinion,I could have not done it and also allowing them to enter my personal chat ,,i think telling them the purpose of travel and showing the doccuments enough the more than that can envolve the lawyers,or otherwise,i can even return back home , america is not heaven,I would rather be insulted in my country than in foreign country,....
This is so scary 😢, thanks for sharing.
These students used consultants and that is the problem. Hundreds of students from Mumbai and Punjab mainly but also from other parts because of the Consultants issuing fake documents and promising the work as well. As citizenship after studies were recently deported from Canada! Indian Government needs to close down the fake Consulting agencies otherwise genuine students and genuine Consultants agencies suffer. The students should always contact the University directly. If they use a consulting agency then they will supply the name and contact information to go! No short cuts or broken hearts.🇨🇦
I can relate to every word of them. I can feel it because I had faced the same situation at Boston Airport in fall 22. CBP had cancelled my visa too with reason found to be inadmissible. What I've seen is CBP were sending back students who didn't paid the fees and came on the first week of start date of college. I was fortunate enough that I came back to US with new visa in spring 23 with the help of my university Northeastern. And I was not the one over there. There were approx 27 students, who were send back with cancelled visa and some were banned too. I feel sorry for manisha and balaji and good luck for your future. This is not the end, have faith and hope. You guys will figure it out and things will start falling at their place.
"came on the first week of start date of college" can you elaborate ??? And second thing, the next time you went, did you pay the fees in advance to your university ?? I am asking this cause, some banks will disburse the amount directly to university so how can we prove that the amount is already paid by my loan provider or they will soon disburse the amount ??
@@prosalmanplays7985 okay. Let's say my start date of University is 6th September and I landed in the US on 6th or after that. Then there might be problems. Answering your second question, I paid the fees then I came. The second time when I came they took me to that room once again but this time they let me go as I had paid the fees. I guess, They get to know about our fees from our SEVIS number. So, they know if you have paid the fees or know. Still they ask
Can I get your Instagram ID or number I have some questions because the same thing happened to me in Boston last year's August.
@@vinityadav9169 Hi bro, how did your university help you in your second attempt? Please if you can help, as the same thing has happened with my friend this intake. A CBP officer at Chicago airport cancelled his visa and now we are planning to reapply for the spring 2024 session. Any help would be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
@@harikrishan2641 I contacted university regarding this after coming back to India and explained the whole situation. As it happened with other students too, they scheduled a meeting with everyone and heard everyone's individual case. For some, they said they will co-ordinate with CBP and try to bring us back. So, the university helped us to get the papers which CBP should give to us, which they didn't give us while sending us back . They suggested several things such as paying the fees and sending all the financial documents. After that, through their advocacy with DHS they helped us to get a call for a visa appointment from the embassy.
This should be escalated to the ministry level. This cruel, inhuman and unjust
Who asked you to come here?
Good job immigration. 👏🏼
@@CoolDip098dude shut up
Dwivedi R u going to teach 2 Vedas or just to have your lifestyle 😂. Go to villages and teach them spirituality first then lecture
@@CoolDip098shut up!
My heart just broke into billions pieces
stay strong !!
two thing I noted from this whole story was 1)To pay my college fee in advance so it gives 1 less reason for the immigration department to deport me 2) Luck plays a big factor in all your endeavors
These people were at the wrong place at the wrong time
I think college also plays a huge role. Going to a reputed college might reduce the chances of such things happening.
@@catcoder12SLU is an extremely reputed college - the red flags are the details on their phones, that they were traveling in a group, and it was almost the first week of college. Just make sure to keep the visa interview a month or two before and then your flight to the US, 2-3 weeks before your orientation.
@@catcoder12 college reputation only matters when you're giving visa interview. At port of entry it doesn't matter at all.