Nikon Z9 vs Z7II | Electronic Shutter on Steroids

2022 ж. 18 Қаң.
27 920 Рет қаралды

This is my final assessment of the read-out time of the sensor of the new Nikon Z9 and the overall processing speed of data. I provided lots of data points in two previous videos why the speed of electronic shutter (read-out) of the Nikon Z9 seems promising but so far I did not perform a true testing. This video now provides final proof that with the Nikon Z9 you do not have to be concerned about the so-called "rolling shutter effect" in most shooting situations.
See also my other three videos on the Nikon Z9.
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  • Great assessment with lots of very helpful data. Thank you for all your work, it has helped so many.

    @LucyS565@LucyS5652 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for your brief assessment of the Z9 electronic shutter. This test puts to rest a lot of my speculations about potential readout speed limitations and associated artifacts. This mirrorless camera from Nikon seems to be a game changer, at least for me and my needs. PS: I am still wondering how such sensor readout is technically possible with CMOS without physical curtains…

    @ChrisBron08@ChrisBron082 жыл бұрын
  • z9 why you sooo goood. this is the first time I am seeing a real life demonstration of electronic shutter at work vs the mechanical. grateful for your work on this

    @Biswash@Biswash2 жыл бұрын
  • Nice test - exactly what I told you last year - the Z9 is better, than anything else (at least, if it comes to the el. shutter :)

    @prokremelskidezolati1426@prokremelskidezolati14262 жыл бұрын
  • Very clear demonstration. Thanks for the work on this.

    @pspicer777@pspicer777 Жыл бұрын
    • Glad it was helpful!

      @mathphotographer@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks again for the videos

    @user-wj5hc3tp9v@user-wj5hc3tp9v2 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome content, thank you for this!

    @apehands4481@apehands44812 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks for the kind comment

      @mathphotographer@mathphotographer2 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for this experiment very interesting. I have seen something similar, however on the Z9 images as the shutter is in read faster and faster there appears to be like banding on the Z9 images, I dont know if its because of higher ISO’s due to shutter being faster or not. Is there any chance you can look into it, for example shutter 8000, 16000, 32000 and obviously the iso will be higher. I have ordered my Z9 and I am a little concerned as to why banding may appear or if its due to lighting or fast readout speeds. Much appreciate a comment. Thanks

    @Photographersforyou@Photographersforyou2 жыл бұрын
    • It's due to the fact that led lights oscillate at a certain frequency and fast cameras like the z9 can capture the moment where the leds go off momentarily.

      @sodiumsalt@sodiumsalt Жыл бұрын
  • Mal wieder sehr interessant. Dankesehr. Tatsächlich sehe ich sonst niemanden auf KZhead, der diese Experimente so angeht bzw. Die z9 mit der z7ii. Und gerade das ist tatsächlich sehr gefragt. LG

    @papisjungle3716@papisjungle37162 жыл бұрын
    • Hey - herzlichen Dank für den netten Kommentar!

      @mathphotographer@mathphotographer2 жыл бұрын
  • Great video!

    @otavioleitefotografia@otavioleitefotografia2 жыл бұрын
  • Please compare z6 high iso noise vs Z9!!!!

    @savagefrieze4675@savagefrieze46752 жыл бұрын
  • Another informative and educational video. Another tour de force.

    @NikCan66@NikCan662 жыл бұрын
    • Ha! Many thanks 👍

      @mathphotographer@mathphotographer2 жыл бұрын
    • @@mathphotographer your welcome

      @NikCan66@NikCan662 жыл бұрын
  • Great test. I understand for high MP cameras they tend to have more noise at higher ISO than cameras with lower MP. Can you test this noise between the Z6 II and Z9??

    @MyContestPix@MyContestPix2 жыл бұрын
    • Yes please, do this test!

      @savagefrieze4675@savagefrieze46752 жыл бұрын
    • From what I've read, the consensus seems to indicate that the Z9's high ISO performance is 1/3 stop better than the Z7 & 1/3 stop worse than the Z6. Some are seeing poor results because they are processing RAW images using their existing workflow that includes 3rd party converters such ACR that is not yet optimised for the Z9!

      @paulbusby2013@paulbusby20132 жыл бұрын
    • @@paulbusby2013 What software do you recommend to eliminate these poor results until ACR is updated??

      @MyContestPix@MyContestPix2 жыл бұрын
    • @@MyContestPix NX Studio which is free but you may need to dial down default noise reduction a tad. If you normally use ACR, I suggest you experiment by comparing both or try a 3rd party de-noise program such as DeNoise AI (I haven’t tried it).

      @paulbusby2013@paulbusby20132 жыл бұрын
    • @@paulbusby2013 Cool, I have old old copy of Topaz Adjust AI!! Thanks!

      @MyContestPix@MyContestPix2 жыл бұрын
  • would love to see a comparison between a Z9 and other system other than nikon

    @VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020@VIDEOVISTAVIEW20202 жыл бұрын
    • you won't, at least until the copy cat start to launch pure electronic shutters. Nikon is the first in the world with pure electronic shutter. Kudos for Nikon!

      @ele4853@ele48532 жыл бұрын
  • Your science is the only science I trust. :) Very good video.

    @KnightsandWeekends@KnightsandWeekends2 жыл бұрын
    • 😉 Thanks!

      @mathphotographer@mathphotographer2 жыл бұрын
  • I wonder if a stacked sensor behaves differently in terms of color, metering or anything else I can't think of at the moment.

    @Camrographer@Camrographer Жыл бұрын
    • On sensor technology, there are basically two main features you can have: BSI (back-side illuminated) and "stacked". BSI helps in low light whereas "stacked" in particular boosts autofocus performance.

      @mathphotographer@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
    • @@mathphotographer Ah, is the difference significant enough for one to choose one over another?

      @Camrographer@Camrographer Жыл бұрын
  • I'm confused here - on the Z7II, you've used Silent Shutter mode instead of Electronic Shutter, I thought they were different? I have my Z6 set to auto (d6) as it happens.

    @paulbusby2013@paulbusby20132 жыл бұрын
    • That d6 option is about electronic front curtain shutter (the front curtain part is important). It starts the exposure electronically but ends with mechanical shutter still closing (the last part is what mostly eliminates rolling shutter in that mode). Silent mode does not use the mechanical shutter at all, so that is the actual electronic shutter mode. So they are 2 totally different modes.

      @eiko4252@eiko42522 жыл бұрын
    • @@eiko4252 - the reason I mention it is because it works very differently on the Z9 that's admittedly electronic only. Someone complained that their flash options were greyed out with Silent Mode enabled. Am not sure if they had tried to set flash from the gun instead - it would have worked or not.

      @paulbusby2013@paulbusby20132 жыл бұрын
    • @@paulbusby2013 Since Z9 is always electronic, silent mode might change some other settings, that might interfere with flash. What the silent mode does in Z9 should be said in the manual and since I don't have Z9 myself, I don't specifically know. All I do know, is that to compare Z9 rolling shutter to cameras with mech shutter, those earlier cameras need to be in silent mode to enable fully electronic shutter and that is what the video did.

      @eiko4252@eiko42522 жыл бұрын
    • @@eiko4252 does silent mode take better shots?

      @MrShaun_D1@MrShaun_D12 жыл бұрын
    • @@MrShaun_D1 No, it takes silent shots. Though in some cases, worse shots than with a mechanical shutter (if sensor readout is not as fast as Z9 for example).

      @eiko4252@eiko42522 жыл бұрын
  • Than you very much for the test. However I think test methology method is wrong. If you want to compare to sensor readout speed, than you should look at bottom and top frame time differences on an image. Therefore you should try to capture fan on vertical position. Youw example is hotizontal so time differences is too small on blades. If you capture on vertially, you should see more distortion between blades whish will give you speed of sensor readout on electronicshutter vs shutter speed (time differences between bottom to top) on mechanic shutter. If you want to emphasize camera sensor differences, you should repeat the test.

    @korayus@korayus2 жыл бұрын
    • Interesting thought, let me think about that

      @mathphotographer@mathphotographer2 жыл бұрын
  • Have you tried flickering lights like the new LED lights they install on streets? Those look awful with electronic shutter on any camera I've tried before the Z9. Those can look awful even on a mechanical shutter at 1/4000.

    @pioni2@pioni22 жыл бұрын
    • Need to look into that, thx for your thoughts

      @mathphotographer@mathphotographer2 жыл бұрын
  • I assume you shot in raw at the highest quality setting.

    @MyContestPix@MyContestPix2 жыл бұрын
    • I always shoot in RAW 😉

      @mathphotographer@mathphotographer2 жыл бұрын
    • And compression loss free or without compression at all

      @mathphotographer@mathphotographer2 жыл бұрын
  • 👏🏾🙏🏾

    @EugeneMaynard@EugeneMaynard2 жыл бұрын
  • cool

    @addisl3594@addisl35942 жыл бұрын
  • @10:24 I am all for mechanical shutter. no for Z9. it is an inherited flaw, no wonder why D6 is still @ 6000+ $

    @photozen8398@photozen83982 жыл бұрын
  • These shots don't look the same to me in quality. I would also like to see a test of how both cameras handle differently pulsating lights such as fluorescents.

    @AmitZinmanVideo@AmitZinmanVideo2 жыл бұрын
  • now do the Z9 at 1/32000

    @tonysallen@tonysallen2 жыл бұрын
  • How I wish you had shot the z9 at 1/32000 as well to see how sharp the fan blades would have got

    @lv8pv@lv8pv2 жыл бұрын
    • How does this matter if we don't know the speed of the fans. Reducing the fan speed to half would lead to the same result. This was not a test of lens sharpness or depth of field. It should just point out how an electronic shutter speed compares to an mechanical shutter.

      @stefanwagener@stefanwagener2 жыл бұрын
    • @@stefanwagener it would have been comperable to 1/8000...

      @lv8pv@lv8pv2 жыл бұрын
    • @@lv8pv I mean shooting the current fan speed at 1/32000 is the same as reducing the fan speed to half and shoot at 1/16000.

      @stefanwagener@stefanwagener2 жыл бұрын
    • @@stefanwagener wow you really did not start out at the front of the line...

      @lv8pv@lv8pv2 жыл бұрын
  • As a Nikon DSLR shooter I'm still closer to buying a Sony camera for my next camera. Im hoping the AF in the Z9 finds its way to a mid market Nikon soon. I also hope they include 10 bit internal plus active stabalisation and gyro stabalisation like the new sonys have - oh and video backup.

    @markshirley01@markshirley012 жыл бұрын
    • Same here...I am on the verge of switching to sony mirrorless and hold on to nikon dslr

      @joshmcdzz6925@joshmcdzz69252 жыл бұрын
  • 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🌟✊❤️😍

    @giritharjeevasuba5206@giritharjeevasuba52062 жыл бұрын
  • That's not the same result.. come on.. the turning blades on the Z9 look like they're melting. There's no mechanical shutter so the electronic should be better not worse and it isn't.. than I would switch to Canon. They have mechanical shutters in pro bodies.. thanks video was very good and interesting... now I know what not to chose...😂

    @davidtheys6000@davidtheys60003 ай бұрын
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    @michael-4k4000@michael-4k40002 жыл бұрын
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    @KGi4@KGi42 жыл бұрын
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