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I get asked a lot about whether being a practicing attorney is like being a lawyer on TV. I love watching legal movies and courtroom dramas. It's one of the reasons I decided to become a lawyer. But sometimes they make me want to pull my hair out because they are ridiculous.
Today I'm taking a break from representing clients and teaching law students how to kick ass in law school to take on lawyers in the movies and on TV. While all legal movies and shows take dramatic license to make things more interesting (nobody wants to see hundreds of hours of brief writing), many of them have a grain of truth.
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@@khizarkhan4250 so am i :)
There's no restrictions on the number of a certain types of adult toys you can own in Arizona.
Do a reaction to the song rise up.
The one thing that's caught my curiosity is the case against Julian Assange
Getting robbed? Just say no! A robber legally cannot take your possessions without your consent.
may not be original, but my god did i laugh too much. the dad jokes are becoming funny, i guess it's time to start finding a wife and make some babies.
@@Chip-Chapley bold of you to assume that you can even get a woman
@@Lightwar49 bold of you to assume he's not marrying his cousin
@@darss10 SWEEET HOOME ALABAMA
@@darss10 bold of you to assume his cousin isn't out if his league.
I'd just like to add. That whole "waiting 24 hours to report someone missing" thing is really dangerous. If you believe that someone is missing or has been taken etc. Those first 24 hours are really crucial to finding them. It gets exponentially harder the longer you wait
Exactly!!! Especially with minors. I read somewhere around 90% of children are killed within the first 24 hours of being abducted
@@jen6294 Most people consider missing children as completely different from missing adults. With children, they are immediately extremely concerned. With adults, you think - maybe there's some reason they aren't where you expected, or why you haven't heard from them.
I don't think the myth was ever that it was a hard rule, but rather that if someone disappeared for less than 24 hours, absent evidence of a crime, police didn't want to take a report because there's a chance they're not really missing. If you saw them shoved into a van, that's a completely different situatuion than they didn't come home last night. (EDIT) Of course, different rules apply for children. One of my classmates in Elementary School missed his bus and tried to walk to school but didn't know the route and got lost. The police were absolutely involved due to his age and he was found safely.
Exactly. This "must be missing for at least 24 hours" is really grinding my gears. If your spouse is home from work by 4pm every single day and then one day they aren't yet home at 8pm, and you can't reach them on their cell phone and not at their work place, of course you'd go to the police and I really doubt they would be like "oh, let's just wait for another 20 hours, OK?"
Even if the rule existed, I'd imagine they'd take the report but wait up to 24 hours before acting on it, rather than refusing the report altogether. If that makes sense, I'm not a lawyer
For number 6, this is absolutely why people are always saying "do not say anything when being questioned by the police, invoke your right to remain silent, and demand to speak to a lawyer." When they say 'anything you say can be used against you' they mean *anything* this includes things they tricked or manipulated you into saying.
100%
or just plain make up
“Your buddy already gave you up. Confess now and you might avoid the death penalty” Meanwhile they never even questioned your partner
@@richardwallis9374 Yeah, I'd argue this is really bad and inexcusable. You put the suspect under duress and _make_ them confess. It's manipulation and you basically can't know if the confession is honest anymore, a confession made under such circumstances where the suspect is made to believe they have no choice or face worse consequences whether it's true or not should absolutely not be accepted by the court. Same with cases where they interrogate the suspect for days on end until they become delirious and just needs it to end no matter what (which I would argue is mental torture). If the prosecutors have to resort to such tactics, it should hurt their case, not win it. The system doesn't care about putting the culprit behind bars, it cares about blaming _someone_ .
@@johnroe643 Make up? Oh no. Because while the police can lie to you, there are laws that you cannot lie to certain law enforcement officials (the exact kind escapes me at the moment).
"You have to wait 24 hours to report a missing person." This myth is actually one of the more dangerous ones, I have known and heard of some cops that actually believe this, including one case I heard of where someone went to report a missing person and the police on duty actually told them they had to wait 24 hours.
This happened with my schizophrenic veteran brother. They refused to do anything, saying that he was "an adult" and could be found easily. His phone and wallet were at my house. The locals refused to help us, the state put the APB out right away.
I have been told this by a cop lol my brother ran away and the cop who showed up literally said this not sure where he got that from. It was the 90,s and I think he may have just been lazy but my brother came back either way no thanks to that dude
I blame the movie Bridesmaids
Perfect example of how cops don't actually need to know the law. Even though they are the ones that enforce it. 🤦♂️
@@nandee1fuery I'm glad you thought of going to the state. I get alerts for missing "vulnerable adults" (such as people with mental illness, developmental disabilities, or dementia) on a regular basis and they are often from the state Highway Patrol.
*undercover officer walks up to a meth lab* Goon: "Yo, you a cop?" Cop: *dejectedly sighs* yea.... *cop turns around walks away sulking*
nobody wants to play with a cop. tired of getting tased for stealing a base in baseball.
answers the question with a question that affirms you are a police officer, while keeping it vague: " Sure, isn´t everyone a cop these days with their cellphones... .. ... .. .. haha?"
Lol now that is awesome
walks away sulking, assured that the 6 back-up Task Force officers will confiscate all cash and most product , pump 34 bullets in the dealers limp torso and plant the illegal firearm within a fingers grasp of his defensive gestures.
@@Redmanticore lol you havnt bought drugs before
If police weren't allowed to lie, every single undercover operation would fail.
I say this all the time, and people STILL insist that if you ask a cop if they're undercover they have to tell you. One thing I get a lot is "They can say things like 'Do I look like a cop?'" No Kevin, they can say "I'm not a cop." If they couldn't, they'd only catch the very dumbest criminals.
I wonder if law enforcement creates or perpetuates some of these myths to make their jobs easier?
@@Busrayne mind = blown
r/legaladvices mods are either cops or pro cops
They can lie to you, what they can't do is attempt to persuade you to commit a crime. Even undercover they couldn't for example be the boss, or even an under boss as everyone working for them is then been told to break the law. This is entrapment, and is actually illegal.
My dad is an excellent black jack player due to his ability to count cards. His proudest moment was when the manager of a local casino came up to him while playing, thanked him for his patronage, offered him a free at the casino steak house and then politely informed him that if he ever returned to the casino again he would be arrested for trespassing. He stopped gambling after that lol.
The myth of waiting 24h to report someone missing is CRAZY to me. Especially because the first 48 hours are so CRUCIAL to finding someone alive.
It's really funny how a lot of these misconceptions are almost entirely due to shows and movies perpetuating them.
Or by bad-intended pseudo-intelectuals.
As are most things
Don't forget casinos want people to very much think it's illegal to card count.
@@oliverp3545 3uwh
@@oliverp3545 why did people think that?
The movie "Knives Out" featured a will reading, but the lawyer specified that it wasn't legally required. I think that was a nice touch.
Knives Out can be summarized as "all of this Agatha Christie stuff doesn't make any sense, but we're doing it anyway because the deceased was a nerd."
It was important for the plot, I guess.
i love this stupid movie so much - a great deconstruction of the genre
Me too!!! Such a delicious romp of a move 🖤
@@gunmadonna Same me and my friends family watched it for a quarantine movie night and had so much fun figuring it out
For the circumstantial evidence it made me think immediately it'd be hilariously awful if you like cut yourself kinda bad at a friend's place and had to go RIGHT before they were brutally murdered and the prosecutions like "The DNA evidence is beyond clear."
Oh something similar to that actually happened. A victim was murdered in an apartment and csi found blood, hair, fingerprints of another person in a lot of places inside the apartment unit. So this unidentified person was of course the prime suspect but turns out they were just the previous tenant and thankfully, they had a strong alibi during the night of the crime. If it wasn't for the alibi, i bet they'd be in the interrogation room longer.
@@snflwrchan8019 Well, that was the night I was in labor at NYU Langone... I'm trying to think what the strongest alibis would be. Labor in a hospital seems high.
@@shinylilfishbeing dead already probably outranks it by a bit.
@shinylilfish already imprisoned at the time is a solid alibi but in the same vien as giving birth in a hospital being in surgery under anesthetic, under supervised quarantine for certain drug or vaccine trials, and staying in a psychiatric unit.
@@snflwrchan8019 There was also a case were a guy was placed by DNA at the murder scene, but also had an ironclad alibi, being at a hospital when it happened. Turned out the paramedics who took the guy to the hospital also were on site at the murder scene and somehow contaminated it.
I had a pot dealer in college, and in our first transaction he said to me, "oh by the way, if you ask an undercover cop if they are police, they CAN say no." I told him I knew that, but thanks anyway.
Let me guess, HE was a cop, and you got busted.
@@trevormillar1576 That would be hilarious.
I'm glad "everything is legal in New Jersey" didn't get busted as a myth.
It's not a myth, it's a fact
Same, otherwise I would be in a LOT of trouble ;-)
Can confirm, it's real
You can't pump your own gas.
@@OtakuUnitedStudio i mean you can pump your own gas, unless youre at a station that requires a clock in card to operate
The 24 hour rule was probably spread by kidnappers
Yeah
In India, for an adult, I think it is...
More likely by people who are tired of people being too paranoid. My mother wanted to report me as missing multiple times already, when my phone died or I had no signal.
No the people who got bribe from kidnappers.
Or cops too lazy to do anything
As an English lawyer specialising in wills and probate I was only ever once asked to read the will. I explained it wasn't necessary but they insisted. They were a lovely family and there were no nasty surprises, everyone going away happy. The big legal lie I had to debunk several times was common-law marriage, or marriage by cohabitation and repute as it used to be called. There used to be a strong belief this was a thing, but the concept was abolished in 1753 in England and Wales. I came across a lady who went to see a divorce lawyer to seek a divorce, only for him to conclude after careful enquiry that she could not get a divorce because she had never actually been married.
Common-law marriage used to be -umm, common - in many USA states due to records getting lost over the years, but most of those were repealed in the 1960s-1970s because they didn't want those darn hippies getting the benefits of marriage just because they lived together for the required number of years (often seven). That was the irony of the Lee Marvin "palimony" case, had California not repealed their common-law marriage law, Lee and Michelle would have been considered married due to how long they had cohabited.
I actually knew these. What surprises me is that in Frazier v. Cupp the confession wasn't thrown out since the defendant had previously asked for and not been given a lawyer.
I adreed with you. Once a person asks for a lawyer, all questions must stop regarding the case. Of course the cops can ask you if you need to use the bathroom. This may have been before the Miranda v. Arizona days.
simple when you ask for a lawyer just shut up
Not sure how the line of questioning actually went in that case, but the term "suggesting" infers they said "Should I get a lawyer ?" and the police would usually answer with something like "Do you want a lawyer ?" If the suspect says yes, the interrogation has to conclude then and there, but if they reply anything that isn't a clear indication of that right, the interrogation can and will continue without further precision unless brought up again by the suspect. The police will ask you directly once, when you're read your rights, if you want a lawyer and that's when you should say "yes" and not say another word. If you don't, it is assumed you consent in waivering that right to proceed with the interrogation until you bring it back up.
Ask a lawyer: "Boxers or briefs?" Lawyer: "Depends."
Fit-Flex preferably...
Always.
Kilt?
@@charleshetrick3152 Kilt? Nah, only injured.
You are all sick individuals and I admire you. ❤️
"First cousin marriages are legal in Florida..." Me: "Ha!" "...Massachusetts" Me: "....goddamnit"
"Hey Kentucky! Good for you!" Neener Neener neeeeenerrrrr!
Right lol I thought we were better than this
@@fofogigishosho we are just as bad as Alabama ig. Smh 😔
Me when he said NC
"California" Wait wtf
So many cold cases wouldn't have gone cold if the whole "waiting 24 hours" myth wasn't perpetuated
That last one does sound like one of my psychology lectures where they explained that you can make someone confess to a crime that they didn't commit. You can plant false memories and or convince someone that their own memories are faulty.
you can -- you can gaslight people into doubting their own memories or begin to accept false memories, especially if they are particularly susceptible (i.e. due to a mental illness)
What I didnt quite get in that example was the part where he said the guy had said he wanted a lawyer but the cops kept asking questions and wore him down, maybe it's another myth but I thought that when you asked for/demanded an attorney they weren't supposed to be able to interrogate you until the attorney was present. You'd think if that were true then the confession would be thrown out, again I may be mistaken on that one as well.
@@Dirtydetective there was a case in the news a few years ago where they claimed that because the person being questioned didn't say verbatim 'I'm invoking my right to an attorney' they couldn't possibly have known he wanted a lawyer, even though he said 'I want a lawyer' or something like that, and it was upheld. So you're right, in theory it should be thrown out, but we live in america
@@StormSought that's completely stupid because nowhere does the constitution say you have to phrase it exactly that way or else it doesn't count
Another thing police will do is interrogate somebody sometimes for hours on end, and in some cases, they get so tired of being questioned they just get worn down and confess to something they didn't do, and that false confession gets them put in prison, even if they later recounted it
this guy looks like a photo-realistic cgi version of himself
He looks perfect right!
Holy shit, I was JUST thinking "HE LOOKS LIKE A DREAMWORKS VERSION OF JOHN HAMM". That's in no way an insult; I'd literally shank someone to look like this guy, but still. Weird.
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Being a lawyer pays well..... maybe 🤣🤷♂️.
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In Blackjack, if you aren't counting cards, you're just donating your money to the casino
Or paying for having fun.
That's why casinos use multideck shufflers now adays.
I just try to track the tens; it's easier and I mostly go for fun anyway, but it seems to help.
I've gotten lucky and made a couple thousand bucks on a 4 day trip to Vegas once. No card counting just blind luck.
How can you NOT count cards? It’s automatic.
“Cousin marriage is legal in Alabama,…” “Well, it goes without saying”-Everyone
It’s more surprising other kinds of marriage also are legal.
@@GZilla311Child marriage?
While sad to hear that 'bird law' is not a thing, I thoroughly enjoyed that disclaimer at the end.
Only legal advice I'll ever accept online: You should go ask a lawyer about that
Would you also take advice on what type of lawyer to see?
Same for medical advice: you should go see a doctor about that
Remember the three Ups when dealing with police.Give Up, don't run, Shut Up, don't talk, and Lawyer Up, no matter what. Follow the Ups and it won't get you out of trouble, but you won't get yourself into more than you already are
Hopefully not the advice your lawyer emails you with.
Limeila doctor mike 🙃
He looks like Ryan Reynold's brother that decided to go into law instead of acting
More like John Krasinski tbh
@@liavhanegbi2729 he looks like a lovechild of both of them
Brian Reynolds
This thread 😂⚰
Oh he really does I just noticed that
Even this week there was a discussion on some consumer group on Facebook: "It's illegal for a company to charge you anything other on your payment card than what you agreed to." I informed them that (a) they shouldn't dish out legal opinions when they're not a legal expert and (b) the legal expert that I'm married had this exact situation, with a supermarket with a pretty poor online shop.
Thank you! This has given me so much more hope to get my abuser in jail. We have some solid evidence but some is circumstantial evidence
I wonder if anyone has ever yelled "Movie!" in a crowded firehouse.
Underrated comment!
Nice one!
Since you're getting credit , i must point out that that is an ancient Steven Wright joke.
Someone yelled it in a crowded building as caused deaths once I can’t remember what if was called tho
@@kenalls3518 I did steal it of course, but I am asking it as a legitimate question.
"Lawyers prefer to fight with our words, not our fists." Apparently you've never practiced law in New Jersey...
Take a comment for doing a funny
Everything is legal in New Jersey
Ouch
He must not have met Matt Murdoch.
Everything is legal there
As a member of a search and rescue unit in a mountainous county, our county's sheriff's office definitely gets, and acts on, missing person reports well before 24 hours, often just a couple hours, or less, dispatching the relevant first responders. The prospect of finding someone well is dramatically better sooner rather than later. Dispatch can assess risks. Use your judgment of when to call 911; you probably have a fair idea of when to be worried.
Hilarious that at 6:35 you explain which cards are valued at 10, but then throw in the term “shoe” without any explanation.
"Police can not lie to you." Undercover Drug Dealer: "I'm not a cop. Are you?" Undercover Drug Buyer: "Not a cop. What you got?"
A version of this was a sub-plot in an episode (or set of episodes) of Law & Order SVU; our protagonists busted some sort of sex trafficking ring, and like two of the 5 they busted were feds working the same case. All that to say, I wouldn't be surprised if this sort of thing (feds busting undercover local police or vice-versa) happened at least more frequently than people would normally think.
It happens a lot actually. Miami has over 4000 active police officers. As a result of this immense size, each division functions nearly as its entirely own police department. This causes undercover officers in Vice to be arrested rather regularly because they dont break cover in public, and as a side effect, the officers in Miami Vice are some of the most understanding when arresting people and have some of the lowest rates of "resisting" arrest as a result.
**awkward silence** **both cops panic and reach for their guns** Comedy or karma?
@@Rovsau niether?
Pretty sure a common trend in SVU is to lie to culprits so they end up confessing in exchange for a lighter sentence. Know it's a tv show so it might not be entirely accurate, but I doubt cops have their hands tied when it comes to lying.
Its always been weird how many people think card counting is illegal. You're litterally just playing with skill and using your brain
True, but the casino can still throw you out.
Not too many people can use their brain though
Yeah, my dad taught me young that it's not illegal, so while watching this I was wondering if the whole pit boss throw you out / beat you up thing was a myth as well. I guess not.
Pit bosses aren’t going to beat you up, it’s not the 1950s or whenever the mob really completely ran a ton of Vegas casinos. In the 2010s and on, if you get caught counting (and you’re really an advantage player that is beating the casino then they’ll just either ban you from the casino or ban you from playing blackjack at that casino. Not gonna be any physical harm, but in the mob days that was a thing)…a lot of people “count” or think they’re good but they’re really still losing or at best breaking even. Or not betting properly while counting etc. Or even if they’re maybe counting, they’re degenerate gamblers and get tilted when they lose and their strategy goes out the window and they do really dumb, very -EV stuff to try and chase their losses or go gamble at high stakes in other games like roulette or craps. The casino will still want your business if you’re one of these people since you’re still going to end up losing a lot of money there. And ya it’s not illegal you won’t get arrested…unless like he said you’re using some sort of illegal devices or marking the cards in some way.
@@BOnYTB My life experience proves you wrong. 🤘
i remember a cop telling me he could literally tell a suspect they had proof that they did the crime even if they had NO EVIDENCE AT ALL
This is what's called a basic interrogation tactic.
Wow, that supreme court case is completely bogus. He asked for a lawyer and they kept interrogating him?
They can do that. Legally, police are not required to provide a lawyer right away and can keep interrogating you while you are detained. In fact, there are multiple cases where statements about lawyers have been interpreted to not invoke Miranda rights, i.e., "Can I talk to my lawyer?" or "When will you get me a lawyer?" The best thing you can ever do in that situation is say, "I refuse to speak to you without my lawyer present. I am invoking my right to an attorney." And then shut up. Don't say anything. Police will try to act friendly with you, joke, etc. to get a reaction out of you and lower your guard. Don't fall for it. You invoke your right to an attorney and you stay silent until that attorney gets there. Even before you are read your Miranda rights, you should not talk to the police as much as possible. This is because any statement you make during the arrest before they read you your rights is admissable in court. Tell them, "My lawyer has advised me to not speak with the police unless they (the lawyer) are present." (Silence without being read your Miranda rights can be interpreted as guilty behavior by the prosecution). Then keep quiet. Once you are detained, specifically tell them that you will not speak to them without your lawyer present in the room with you, and that you are invoking your right to an attorney. Then go silent and unresponsive until your lawyer is present. Police can and will try to manipulate your words to say that you didn't invoke your Miranda rights so they don't have to bring in a lawyer. This is why you must be explicit with your language. Don't get sassy or cute or waver. "I refuse to speak to you without my lawyer present. I invoke my right to an attorney." Even then police will try and find ways to stall or get you to confess. It's a messed up system, but that script is your best bet to avoiding the most common pitfalls you'll face when being arrested.
@@chronoxtreme2427 Not necessarily true. Berghuis v. Thompson was a case where the SCOTUS found a guy who just kept silent the whole time had not invoked his Miranda rights. You have to respond to everything with "I will not speak to you without my lawyer."
Florida. Naturally. As a floridian I approve this, and so does my cousin.
I wonder if there are exceptions for the same-sex cousin marriage in the states that look down on it.
and so does your mutual child
Schrodinger's familiar. A person that occupies two levels of a family tree simultaneously.
Wondering who's "Florida Man" parents are
Lmao
“Cousin marriage is legal in 21 states [also *most* of Europe]” Comments: “haha sweet home Alabama!” *completely ignores of other 20 states*
I was surprised that it's legal in California.
@@shinyagumon7015 why its a pretty liberal thing love is love right?
is 1 allabama
@@Zach__tendy Yes, one of the twenty one states that allow cousin marriage without restraints is Alabama.
@@rebel2478 Uh. Marriage between people of the same sex is completely different than marriage between people who share blood. Saying that this falls under the 'Love Is Love' slogan grossly misrepresents what it actually means. Fighting for LGBT+ rights is totally different. EDIT: totally put 'share love' instead of share blood, and that is my bad. I am NOT in favor of incest.
I don't even need a lawyer but I still want to hire this guy as my lawyer lol
Thanks to KZhead I'm more well-versed in US law than I am in my own country's law.
Fun fact: I've been reported missing after around 30 minutes. They didn't launch an investigation, but the police were told to keep their eyes peeled. I wasn't missing. I went for a walk, forgot to tell my dad, and my phone died.
LOOOL well at least if you were missing you would have been found sooner
Hey, at least your dad cares about you. You should find peace in the fact that if you ever were to go missing, an investigation would be launched quickly.
@@immortalsun actually, it wasn't his idea... someone at the rec center (where I was supposed to be) overheard him and said that they needed to tell the police lol
Saw this a lot in college, when roommates decided to go home with each other planning on calling mom when they got there
When I was a little kid, I was reported missing because i was playing hide and seek at my friends house down the street, and fell asleep in their closet. They couldn't find me so they thought I went home without telling anyone, and they didn't tell my dad...
But beware: NEVER yell "theater" in a crowded fire :=)
Can you explain? I'm really curious as to what this is supposed to mean 😅
@@frostbytes8906 A flip on "never yell fire in a crowded theater"
@@kanjakan wow my dumbass thought it was a saying or something
Feel free to yell, "This is fine."
@@frostbytes8906 it's a yippie saying
My MIL just passed and I had to explain to my 21 year old son that the whole “reading of the will” thing is not real. It never occurred to me that people would actually believe that really happens.
Fun fact, I helped lobby and got a bill passed here in Colorado that bans the use of “deceptive interrogation” by SROs in schools. So that at least is a start in Colorado
Criminalizing card counting would be literal thought policing.
not too far off from what's happening nowadays
@@imitatsiya oh come on noone is thought policing , arnold.
@@imitatsiya i see you already have the profile pic to match your clown act
please stop misusing words simply to evoke an inappropriate emotional response. And for the love of god, actually read the book.
The dealers also learn to card count specifically because it's not a crime to do so, in order to counter players that do card count.
"Marrying your cousin was considered a *relatively* good bet.." #UnexpectedDadJoke
It's still a common enough thing in india. I moved to a different city for college, and whenever I say I don't have a love life, people ask whether I have any beautiful cousins. They assume it's an easy deal because you already know them and people often marry their cousins. Not at all a thing in my hometown and I feel disgusted whenever someone mentions it...
IIRC cousins are only 1% higher risk of defects compared to two unrelated people if they have kids. And married people don't necessarily even want kids anyways.
@@jmiller6066 The risk goes up with multiple generations of first cousin marriages. Even so, it's still not as big of an issue as people think it is as long as you're introducing new blood every couple of generations and there aren't known genetic defects in the line, e.g. hemophilia, sickle cell, thalassemia, etc.
Well, marrying another person of same gender is fine, but a cousin you love is not?
@@raerohan4241 nowdays is quite popular on the youth not having childs. So i don't really see the issue in that cases.
Having watched a fair amount of true crime videos, I have absolutely no doubt that you can be convicted on circumstantial evidence alone...and I was really surprised at how easily you can get convictions with some juries. Who needs evidence when you've got imagination, I guess.
a good example of circumstantial evidence is if u r indoors and someone comes in dripping wet saying it's raining outside; if u can't see or hear the rain then there is no proof that this person is wet from being in the rain. but logic and experience would make u incredibly likely to believe the person and circumstances.
"Licking doorknobs is illegal on other planets" -Lawyer Sponge S
The wisest words ever spoken.
it depends
Don't worry, whatever planet you're on, it's still only illegal on the other ones.
People need to be careful with Rule 34. It turns out it's a prescriptive rule -- it is the act of thinking up weird porn that causes the weird porn to exist. Someone joked about doorknob licking and this is what happened: imgur.com/gallery/6x4Oi
‘Do you always answer your questions with ‘It depends?’ *’It depends…’*
So no
If push button: Get good high paying profession but Have to answer every question with it depends
@@fever7346 it depends
Hey! I'm a law graduate working at a criminal defence firm in Scotland. I would absolutely love to see you talk about Scots Law since our legal system has quite a few interesting aspects to it, like: the 'not proven' verdict in criminal trials, the concept of 'hamesucken', and the elements of creating a contract (verbal agreement is enough). Thanks!
14:20 that's honestly really concerning, considering that if the police lie to you saying that someone has indisputably implicated you in a crime, some people will be gaslit into confessing, or will feel like they're screwed and that a conviction will be inevitable, no matter whether it's right or wrong, and will just confess to get a lighter sentence
If you're confessing to a crime you didn't commit, that's on you. If they tell you your parents already confessed that they knew you were doing criminal stuff and gave the police evidence, I'm not seeing any world where the reaction you should have it "Ahh well, even though I know I'm innocent I guess I must have done it!" and not "You're lying or my parents are." Why would you trust the testimonial of whoever it is they say is implicating you? That's like believing the school shit-stirrer "You won't believe what x said about y!"
@@Winasaurus You know that a lot of people are genuinely susceptible to gaslighting, even when they are 100% sure of the truth, right? Like, even a basic Psychology and the Law class would identify this kind of tactic as unethical and show the huge amount of instances where it's led to false confessions
@@SilentMeteorite And in my opinion, if you're that susceptible to being convinced that you have done something awful then you're close to as dangerous as someone who would do those things. If I can actually convince you you've robbed someone before, you don't really have a reason to not do it again if pushed. Especially given that you're literally fighting for your life in a police interrogation, how are you so resigned to just accepting whatever you are told? I highly doubt most people are susceptible to it, especially people are 100% sure of the truth. If you're 100% sure you cannot be convinced otherwise. If you can be convinced, you cannot be 100% sure. Just by the very nature of what sureness is. If you know you didn't do something but someone convinces you you did it, then you weren't 100% sure. Which you should be about things you have done. Like if the police pulled you into an interrogation and said they have evidence you did something you know you didn't, would you just go "sigh okay then I guess I did, put me away for life :("?
@@Winasaurus Yes actually, studies show that MANY MANY people would. Like, the majority of people. Under a high pressure situation, being held for hours without knowing what's gonna happen to you, and being gaslit by an authority figure can do that to most people
It’s still disturbing how much weight to given to eyewitness testimony to convict when it’s some of the worst evidence out there. It’s nothing more than somebody saying they saw something.
"Trust me bro" except it can determine a person's entire future lmao
I think its cause a) the judicial system is old, and was created at a time before we knew how unreliable human memory is and b) most cases would have basically nothing to convict on if not for testimony.
Testimony is powerful in smaller communities, where rep counts.
While it is very flawed, it is very far from being "some of the worst evidence out there." Yhere are countless examples of circumstantial evidence that are much less reliable. "I saw Bill shoot Joe in the chest" Is certainly better than "Joe was murdered in his apartment and Bill lives on the same floor"
Or the weight is multiplied because of someone's profession, or whether they're a regular church goer. That just reeks of naivity.
"Everything is legal in New Jersey!" Yeah, except for pumping your own gas...
I think it is actually a quote from Hamilton.
And all firearms.
@@suo_wei_ren_zhe_jie_xin_chen the funny thing is that duels were illegal in New Jersey too at the time
and left turns kinda
@@TheWhale45 As a German: If you honestly think that the 1930s Nazi regime was, in any way or form, "socialist" you should pick up a history book. While it is true that they called themselves that to gather votes from poverty ridden voters, who lost land, homes, furniture, jobs after WW1 in a country with almost no functioning economy, they were simply a fascist right-wing dictatorship. Whatever floats your boat, though, man.
After my grandmother’s death her lawyer contacted us all and we met in their office to have a reading of the will. And it was in fact dramatic. Lots of yelling from certain “forgotten” family members and the like.
I love the scene in Breaking Bad where an undercover cop says "hey ask if I'm a cop, if I'm a cop I have to tell you, right?" and then proceeded to say he wasn't a cop, buy meth, and immediately arrest the guy
You look like every Hollywood director’s dream of what a lawyer is supposed to look like...............and you are an actual lawyer.
Yes he is.
you should see him nekid
@@thalivenom4972 what?
He missed the Suits window.
@@thalivenom4972 this comment made me HOLLER 💀💀💀💀💀
That scene in Breaking Bad where Badger gets arrested by a cop after asking him whether he was a cop is one of the best scenes highlighting that last point😂
This was the exact scene I was thinking of when he was talking about that lmao
Badger complaining about the cop lying to him afterwards just was the cherry on top
Yup! Thought the same thing. DJ Qualls was really excellent in that scene.
Especially after he pegged the guy as a cop. He was savvy enough to know something was up and ignored it in favor of foolishness.
The first 72 hours that someone is missing are the most critical that can make or break a case.
My mom passed recently and though she told me she had a will WE CAN NOT FIND THIS THING. Learning that even if I don't have it, it's still legally binding, it's a very big relief.
hopefully you've found it by now! but if not maybe check her computer/phone for a video will? that's what my dad did for his will and I doubt its anybody's first thought to look there if you're expecting paper.
Chances are she had a lawyer or notary who has it on file.
@@WalterLiddy Unfortunately we have no idea who she would've gone through or how to track them down.
Casinos actually like card counting. For every one guy who is good at it, there are 10 who come to vegas and lose their money while doing it.
house always wins
Do you play?.
@@tristanbulluss9386 For money? No, because it's a losing game. You 'play' and 'win' by just not playing at all.
I was thinking about going to the casino and playing 21 for the first time but then the virus hit.
@@tristanbulluss9386 You'll get a chance soon enough. Just remember not to go in expecting to win. Take a specific amount of money that you're happy to lose and don't go beyond that.
If the teacher is 10 minutes late we're legally allowed to go home
That’s for colleges
@@arcanum3882 oof
...and if they are 30 minutes late your tuition is free. If only...
@@annoyed707 If it were a cumulative refund for every occurrence, I could have retired at age 19.
I always heard 15 but who am I kidding. Im no scholar
"Relatively good bet.. Think of all the family you already share!" Had me dead with that pun 🤣
Buddy….you’re just awesome. My hope for the future is more people cement learning and understanding for others by sharing their own experience like this.
I didn’t even know that “police can’t lie” was even a thing people believed. I’ve never heard of that until now.
Okay
I think it's far more common for people to believe a much narrower version of the myth, which is that undercover cops cannot deny that they're cops when asked (obviously there couldn't be undercover cops at all if they weren't allowed to lie, period). I think it mainly comes from the movies, and it seems plausible to many people because it sounds like some kind of legal protection against entrapment.
@@iang0th I'm assuming that's what he meant, since that was the context in the video. It's still equally stupid though. Like I don't see how there's any logical sense behind the idea of "oh yeah, if someone asks if our undercover cop is undercover, he has to say yes." Granted, people who think that usually have rotted brains from all the drugs.
AFAIK while they can lie, what they're not allowed to do is misrepresent the content of the Law--i.e. they are liable if they falsely tell you that something legal is a crime or that something criminal is legal in an effort to induce you to commit an illegal act or to induce you to refrain from asserting your rights such as right to remain silent or right to an attorney.
I never heard the will thing before either
Great video. I actually drafted New York's missing adults law. Until 2016, there was no state law requiring police to take reports of missing adults. Now, as long as there is reasonable concern for their safety, police are required to report the missing adult to the NCIC as they are for missing children.
So your the one who help create the PAPERS PLEASE for adults that just want disappear, be left alone and the commie govt grabs them in the name of the NWO controlling society
Years ago, the police had some questions for me about a crime that someone I knew allegedly committed. I told the investor to write his questions down and I'd provide a written statement after having it reviewed by my lawyer. I'll never forget the look on his face.
Ugh, the Casey Anthony trial made me sick to my stomach. I believe she at least had something to do with it. She should have gotten convicted of something: child negligence or something.
Actually the lawyer will answer: "That will be $800 per hour plus expenses, and it will take months."
He looks like John Krasinsky and Ryan Reynolds rolled into one.
Yes someone else noticed!!
Someone else finally noticed.
kinda sounds like a combo of the two as well
That's probably why he seems like such a cool dude just from the thumbnails alone.
he looks like erik the electrik
13:50 I understand that police are allowed to lie, but I'm shocked the case wasn't dismissed when they refused him counsel
They can still talk to you while waiting for counsel to get there and if you are dumb enough to confess at that point, you get what you get.
@@wingracer1614 they pretty much intimidate and psychologically torment people into confessing in that context though by saying stuff like "we already know you're guilty, we'll give you a lighter sentence if you admit it". It really shouldn't be taken as evidence that a person is actually guilty, just that they don't believe the law is willing to consider their side. It's like how a person will say anything under torture.
@@emberhermin52 Yeah they will do crap like that. You need to keep your mouth shut. The cops are not judges or prosecutors, they can not make that kind of deal and you need to know that. Tell them sure, that sounds like a great deal. Tell it to my lawyer, put it in writing and we will consider it. Then shut your damn mouth.
I love your quote, is/are law shows on tv like actual practice, your response (paraphrased), "...sometimes they make me want to pull my hair out!" 'not disputing, some law scenes are as accurate as real life-- 'oh, my goodness, 'that's the best quote 'ever! And, 'where have you been 'all my legal tv/movie scenes 'all my life!?
Is it just me, or is this guy's face perfectly proportioned to be a cartoon character?
I was getting more of a "the love child of Loki and Jim from The Office" type vibe
No,he is a character from gravity fall
He looks like Winston Deavor from the Incredibles lol
Looks like Ralph from WreckItRalph
@@jacquioliver2063 Crossed with Alfredo from Ratatouille.
I'm so glad you clarified the counting cards thing. I always thought it sounded kinda crazy cuz like some times you can't really stop yourself from remember which cards were drawn or smth. It feels like it's just part of the game. But I always assumed it was still a thing since casino aren't particularly known to be fair anyway.
Fantastic! Confirming it denying things we all ‘believe’. Keep up the great job, LE!
"Lawyers prefer to wound you with a pen rather than a sword" Is he threatening to stab me with a pen?
Yes
_Legally_ speaking... No. Otherwise... >:)
You wanna see a magic trick?
For legal reasons, no.
I’m gonna make this pen disappear
how do we define "missing person" legally? if i choose to go on vacation for a week, and have few friends of family so just don't really tell anyone, but some others notice, is this a missing person? if i decide i don't want to talk to people anymore and start a life alone and secluded, is this person "missing"? does a person have to be physically taken by another person or be lost somewhere to be "missing"? if the person is lost somewhere, but perfectly happy being there, and knows they eventually will be fine and can take care of it themselves, is this person "missing" for that period of time? where is the specific specific line?
I don't think there is a legal definition. If a person is reported missing, the police will take into account the relationship of the person making the report to the missing person. If I report my next door neighbor missing, but I don't know his phone number or family, they may take a report, but won't really search too hard. They will probably ask other neighbors, and try to contact family, but unless something else looks awry (mail piling up, evidence of forced entry, etc), not much will happen. But if said neighbor is a frail elderly person, they might try to contact family for a welfare check, perhaps even forcing entry to the house, because he might be laying on the floor with a broken hip. OTOH, if I report my spouse missing, and can provide work location, car license, cell phone number, etc, that will be taken more seriously and looked at a little harder. They might check for credit card activity, put out a BOLO on the car, see if the phone is online, and so on. When I was in college (45 years ago), living alone and between relationships, I took off one weekend and drove up to a mountain town 100 miles away just for a change of scenery. If anything had happened to me, my boss would have known when I didn't show up to work the next week, but he didn't know that I left for the weekend. My parents might have called after a few days, but we didn't talk more than maybe twice a month. If I didn't pay the rent at the first of the month, they would have called after the due date, but I don't think they would have really taken any action for a month. So I could have run off the road down a side canyon, and it might have been a month before anyone really started looking for me. I didn't have many credit cards, nor a cell phone, so I could have gone missing for a long time.
It's perfectly legal to yell 'Fire!' in a crowded theatre that's burning.
what if you don't yell "Fire!" but instead pull out your marshmallows?
So basically, before I yell "fire" in a crowded theater, I need to remember to actually light the theater? That's what I been doing wrong...
Yelling "fire" is legal. The ensuing panic and reckless endangerment you caused are what get you in trouble. The loss of earnings & potential damage caused to the theatre as a result of your actions leave you liable to a civil suit. Basically you can say whatever you like, and not get in trouble for it. You can however get in trouble for peoples reactions that you triggered, if those reactions are a reasonably predictable outcome of your words.
It depends
even if it's not burning to legal to yell it
You covered my favorite legal myths. I've had so many potential clients who wanted to challenge a will because "there wasn't even a reading of will!" They're shocked when I tell them that's not a thing.
4:41 can confirm. Last time I was in a lawyers office, one of em jumped me and tried to Stab me with an incredibly innate foundation pen.
14:16 Hmm, I got it! If you want to uncover an undercover cop, just ask everyone "what are my basic legal rights?". Criminals will be able to lie or tell you to gtfo. Cops will have to read you the rights. Boom! Solved :P
“First cousin marriage is legal in Alabama.” Of course it is.
Citizen of Alabama here to clear up something. While marrying your cousin is legal, we will avoid you like the plague. Because gross.
Yeah, I like how he started right from it :D Even tho it was just an alphabetical order.
@@micahjones1451 don't get why its gross.
@paula damn Californians
Sweet home Alabama
Uses the word “relatively “ when talking about marrying a cousin
"Incest is relative" is a often used trope
bro thats what i was thinking lol
If the law is so vast and complex, how can we actually even expect people to follow it?
Legal complexity is a feature, not a bug. If the law is so complex (and sometimes self-contradictory) that NO ONE can fully comprehend it, then it probably means that EVERYONE has broken it at some point. That's very convenient if you want to control people. Almost anyone can be arrested at any time. Especially if they, say, speak out against the government, who makes the laws. Speaking against the government isn't illegal (yet), but it can be made effectively illegal.
Non-American here. I didn't know about the whole "undercover police have to tell you if you ask" myth until relatively recently, and it always perplexed me. Like, if they have to tell you, what's the whole point of going undercover in the first place?
"[cousin marriage] was considered a *relatively* good bet" Don't think I didn't notice this!
I don't know if that was intentional, but good catch regardless, I sure didn't notice it.
The weird thing is that that only covers FIRST cousins. If you want marry your second cousin it opens up MANY more states. By the time you hit 3rd cousin it's legal everywhere in the US.
Lmao florida and alabama were an obvious one. But high and mighty california allowing it too is amazing lol. They got so much sexual freedom that they ended coming back full circle to the hillbillies they despise.
@@DarkestKnightshade Certain areas have large populations were they think cousin marriage is still okay. The Utah area has Mormons, and in California the immigrant Hispanic population is still pretty open to it.
@@DarkestKnightshade You have some misconceptions about California, there. It's obvious that you have never been. Outside of the largest cities, THEY"RE all hillbillies, too.
"We assume that the beneficiaries of the will are literate." That's a dangerous assumption. Half my graduating class was at a first grade reading level.
Half your graduating what? (I'm kidding, I know you meant graduating class!)
@@Gulyus I think he's just proving a point. LOL
@@Gulyus Whoops. Need to remember to proofread. Thanks for the catch. Fixed.
And I live in Scotland in country where a lot of the older generation can't read or write because they don't really need to.
Objection! A first grade reading level is, in fact, literate. Dummyhead.
The thing about the reading of the will is interesting. I was talking to a lawyer in England a few days ago, and apparently it really does happen sometimes that they get all the heirs together in a room and go through the will with them. She said it is rare, and as you might imagine, it is generally when one or more of the heirs feel that they haven't been treated fairly. It's not a pleasant experience.
My question is, what do you do when the police tell you have to wait 24h? Do you just look it up on your phone and show them they're wrong? I can't imagine that going to go like "oh! Wow I didn't know that! We'll get right on it, then!" feels more like if they find your loved one stabbed 20 times in the back they're getting a 'suicide' verdict
Here’s a legal fact: If the document isn’t on legal size paper, it isn’t legal.
Soo... A4?
@@tudorciubotaru3497 no dummy. Legal size paper.
@@IndigoOverdrive woosh
@@heyarno le Reddit!!! Woosh xDDD
@@heyarno no u
I thought all wills stipulated spending a night in a haunted house otherwise the lawyer gets to keep everything
He never said that’s NOT how it works.
Only if the scooby gang can investigate it.
It's a standard clause.
"The reading of the will" usually involved a bunch of eccentric characters that hate each other and usually end up at the firing end of Hercule Poirot, Miss Marple or Jessica Fletcher or Columbo.
So, funny story, my parents met at a family reunion! They aren't related though. My cousin's parents decided to bribe him into going by letting him bring his best friend, my dad. He spent a whole weekend playing capture the flag with my mom, and ten years later, they wound up getting married.
"Everyone knows you can't yell 'fire' in a crowded theater" Objection: you need the word "falsely" before the word "yell"
And you are only in trouble if it causes actual harm.
That was a throw away line from a case about sedition. That standard was also abandoned, so there is no such law.
@@Enderslegend There is no specific law but if you knowingly falsely yell fire in a crowded theater and damage results from it you can probably be held liable for that damage in a civil suit
I saw the movie Inglorious Basterds, and not once at the end did anyone shout "Fire!" Even in the end, they obeyed the law!
From someone with a degree in biology (i.e., Me): people tend to be pretty grossed out by the idea of cousin marriage, but the fact is that first cousins can have children without defect. As long as they aren't both carriers of genetic abnormalities, the children produced by 1st cousins (or 2nd cousins, or so on) will be just fine. The caveat of that is when: A) there is a genetic abnormality in the family, and B) multiple series of cousins continue to marry and have children together for generations (I'm looking at you, European Royal Family). But a one-off marriage between two cousins isn't going to automatically produce mutated offspring. The problem is not that a single marriage of close relatives could *cause* a mutation. The problems arise when close relatives *continue* to reproduce, limiting genetic variation and increasing the likelihood that already existing, but recessive, genetic mutations will be passed on to offspring by both parents.
Interesting thing here is that the states he marked have laws not just about first cousin marriage, but definitions for what does or doesn't constitute incest. The way they're worded I think the bigger concern in some states was less about about marriage between relatives, and more about rape and sexual abuse between older male, younger female relatives. For instance Kentucky specifies contact between uncle and niece, father-daughter, or stepfather-stepdaughter. Instances where one relative could plausibly be the legal guardian and there's a power imbalance. Also interesting is that women states consider first cousin too close of a relationship for procreation, but second cousin is considered far enough apart for all US state laws.
@@75aces97 Because with second cousins you have the same chance to have a child with genetic defects as with any other stranger (and in reality you don't have almost anything in common with your second cousin and barely know them if at all). Ofcourse it is legal.
Siblings can also have children without defect. It’s just very common to have children with defect. It gets less and less common the further apart you are genetically.
Because we all have problem genetics, every family has its hidden genetic land mines. Close relatives can concentrate good and bad traits. Useful to animal breeders looking to fix desired traits, disastrous when undesirable traits manifest (such as royal humans or purebred dogs).
All of that you're saying is just too complicated and sophisticated for the average human to understand or get around to hearing. So, we just say gross because that's what 6 year olds can understand.
The reading of the will has always been interesting to me, particularly as one of my main practices is Trusts and Estates. In my current state it clearly isn't a requirement. But I can remember 20 years ago actually getting pulled into a room with my family in Connecticut where an attorney discussed the distribution provisions my grandfather's will. To this day I'm not sure if the attorney believed they had to read the will, or if after 20 years I've completely misremembered it (although I initially recalled it more than a decade ago when I started law school).
As for #5, Timothy McVeigh was convicted on almost entirely circumstantial evidence. He was one of the bombers that pretty much destroyed an FBI building in the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995. There was no direct evidence linking him to it, and no video of him planting bombs or setting one off. So, how was he convicted? First, they showed he rented a truck/van that was used in the bombing. Second, it was shown he drove that vehicle frequently, including the morning of the bombing. It was also parked in the garage underneath the building. Well, pieces of it were found then. Third, it was shown he had purchased supplies used in the bombing. Fourth, it was shown he acquired knowledge of how to turn fertilizer into an explosive, including the ammonium nitrate based fertilizer that was turned into an explosive that was used in the OKC bombing. There were several other things added but these are the main points. So, all of these pieces of evidence would be considered circumstantial, but added together, they painted a direct line between him and the bombing. The prosecutor in his closing argument even said that "Either McVeigh did it, or he is the unluckiest person that ever lived because all these things point to him." This is how they also got his accomplice Terry Nichols, because Nichols also purchased many bags of the same fertilizer and both he and McVeigh had frequent meetings.
0:50 - Chapter 1 - It's illegal to marry your cousin 2:45 - Chapter 2 - The will is only binding if it's read to you 6:10 - Chapter 3 - Counting cards is illegal 7:40 - Chapter 4 - You have to wait 24h to report a missing person 10:05 - Chapter 5 - You can't be convicted on circumstantial evidence alone 13:10 - Chapter 6 - The police can't lie to you 14:55 - End roll ads
Thanks!
I don't know why the KZheadrs themselves don't add timestamps
Thanks! I knew all these, saved me some time
Ok but it never said if cousin marriage is legal in texas
@@visassess8607because then people skip larger portions of the video lol sometimes its beneficial but usually ends in lower watch time…like my most viewed video, probably 10 ppl commented the timestamp of the moment of the big reveal. didnt make me mad cuz i understand butttt kinda did at the same time 😂
I like how after the 3 categories were read on the legal status of marring a cousin, there were still blank states.
Yeah, I was wondering about that. My guess is that they have laws where the wording make it illegal, but not explicitly illegal, or the reverse where the wording leaves loopholes. For example, in my home state of Vermont, the public decency laws do not forbid public nudity, but state "open and gross lewdness and lascivious behavior is a punishable crime." (13 V.S.A. §2601: Lewd and Lascivious Conduct) as well as elsewhere defining the removal of one's clothing as lewd behavior (couldn't find the exact law). As such, so long as you are already nude once entering public property and do not act in a lewd or lascivious manner, it is perfectly legal to be nude in public. However, upon this loophole becoming more well known, a number of towns and cities enacted their own policies to prevent people from wondering around public spaces nude.
@@connormawe01 Now I'm just imagining some rich nudist owned some big building in a large city and hosted a nudist event in his building, and once everyone wasn't dressed, he told everyone that it was okay to walk the streets without worry of being arrested
*stares at Texas*
*IT DEPENDS*
@@connormawe01 thank you so much. I’m also a Vermonter and was wondering what was up with Vermont.