The Final Four Minutes of Star Trek Deep Space Nine

What a time to be alive.

You’re telling me DS9 ended the same month The Phantom Menace released?!

@@edibleapeman2 The irony of it all lol

The end of an era and a millenium. I can't remember if I watched it that day, but I'd like to think I did.

In so many ways this finale felt like the closing of an era more than any other Star Trek show. The franchise was already going downhill at this point, and it would only decline from here on out.

In Star Trek Online it's still there.

Crashing Comet it's technically both not any time at all and all of the time

@Crashing Comet you're drunk. Tuvok was the absolute tits of Voyager. And I believe they're talking to Avery Brooks about reprising his role in a new show since Admiral Janeway is showing up on Star Trek:Prodigy(?) on Nickelodeon

No pun intended ehh

He went back in time to American X

Yes, we just watched it.

One of his lines I liked was something to the effect of "Every once in a while, declare peace; it confuses the hell out of everybody." 🙂

Lol. If only it were true We could do with a bit more of star trek staying the same.

Yep. I just watched it also. But that’s bc he is still gonna host gambling lol

Bet*

@Leo R that's the whole joke

@@Peoples_Republic_of_Devonshire I don't think you get it.

God, his jokes were so cringeworthy.

Morn is the DS9 equivalent of Norm from the '80s TV show, "Cheers," but just a little less talkative.

Hahaha

*MY CHILDHOOD IS DYING AROUND ME!*

I always held out hope for a DS9 movie or reunion....its sad.

best ending ever on star trex....

It's surprising how many DS9 semi-regulars are gone too.... Brock Peters - Joseph Sisko Tiny Ron - Maihar'du Barry Jenner - Admiral Ross Majel Barrett - Starfleet Computer/Lawaxana Troi.

@@develynseether4426 When did Rene Auberjoinois die?

For some reason those instrumentals just go so well with space. 2001 is another great example.

In a way, it's like that moment is the final realization of the melancholy inherent in the melody (although I know they didn't plan *that* far ahead).

It's a trumpet actually...but it is really nice

DS9 finished the year I finished school and was one of the most influential things in my childhood, so for me that trumpet is more than the goodbye of DS9 but also the goodbye of my optimistic youth.

@@jamesdaly83 I have come to appreciate DS9 fully in retrospect for the masterpiece it is. Having grown up with TNG and VOY, DS9 was always the one that took longer to get into. However, not unlike on Babylon 5, the journey with the DS9 crew goes further than any other Trek show before it in exploring the darkness and internal struggles if the crew: on DS9 there is no black and white, just shades of constantly shifting grey.

Listening to the intro music, sounds very sad to me.

Didn't like the direction the series chose to take the show with Bashir and Dax though. Seemed after they killed off Jadzhia, they were looking to create a new couple. Would've enjoyed her character development, struggling with all the memories of the Dax host like we saw when she first arrived in the show especially since she is a Counselor.

Voyager- Friend calls you to tell you he got married Enterprise- Friend has a baby and secretly laments his former state of affairs STD- Friend gets divorced from his wife Picard- Friend moves back into your house partying and drinking like a 20 year old and wont stop pissing on your furniture

@@jeffburnham6611 I think Ezri got short shrift. Had she been introduced sooner (say around half way through season four or five) we could have got a decent handle on her character.

TNG ending is a close second

I noticed that too!

Yeah he's always such a chatterbox. Good to see Quark finally getting a word in.

I cried as well, it shows that you really got what the show was about.

Your comment never fails to cheer me up whenever I come back here. Let's admit it: We all spent a lifetime on DS9 and it was the best of times...

lol

Ds9 it was better about characters and had great episodes like under the pale moon. I didnt like a lot the end. And the war could have been better. Tng had great episodes but was a little ingenuous sometimes. Voyager started bad but ended well. Enterprise i didnt watch it. I didnt like the premise.

I felt the same way TNG was my gospel as a kid ..after coming home from Deployment I realized as a Veteran...DS9 was the truth...what you leave behind

*+Mfundo Nkosi* Exactly, precisely the same for me!

The last two seasons of Enterprise are excellent!

@@connormccloy9399 Agreed, Season 3 and 4 of Enterprise are *well* worth watching. Also, look up the Enterprise intro with Archer's Theme, which was the original theme written for Enterprise. Everyone owes it to themselves to see and hear it.

I guess in the first seasons rendering scenes with the digital model would have taken longer than just shooting some movements with the big model and pastering it together with other stock material. That's also the reason, why only in the last seasons you see armadas of ships going after each other - at that moment it became easy enough to render those scenes in a time frame suitable for a tv series. And nowadays you could replay the battle of Cardassia I on your computer in 60 FPS...

Looking back, that is very fitting, as things were changing to a digital world at that time. 1999 was the start of computers taking over things that use to be done with physical models. The more things change...

@@vmorning3506The closing of the 90s and entering the 2000s was like entering a new world.

it makes total sense however, the air date was 1999, and there was a serious computer processing boom at that time that started roughly 3-4 years prior. that same computer processing boom ended in 05 i believe, around the time of enterprise. my guess before making this scene they had to quite literally buy brand new pcs and reformat the digital model, which would've most likely been made on a older pc running windows DOS or similar OS at the time.

Tertiary Adjunct wow you took my comment is exactly what I just realized. I remember people first taking bad about this show because it did not reset after each episode. and argument being who would want to watch through the entire series to follow the story. 20 years later that's now all we want for our shows and this was one of the best ones to give you a complete story that you can watch from beginning to end.

Yeah I remember saying "How can we have a Trek show set on a space station? A SPACE STATION? I mean they never GO ANYWHERE..! It'll never work." And decades later we are sagely agreeing that this was secretly the best series of the franchise.

was there any other show before this that did major story arcs?

Its odd that the Next Generation was far ' better ' than Deep Space nine until about the last two seasons of next gen, while Deep Space nine then took the show. Deep Space nine started out dry and ended up well written and directed drama. I dunno why. Perhaps with the addition of the Defiant. ????

Feh. It is only good because they stole the premise from Babylon 5. 😋

They just don't make them like this anymore.

And Kira, of Odo. (RIP Rene.)

I love all Trek series (well maybe except Disco and Picard) but something about DS9 in particular, when it ended...really left me hollow inside

Now you should start watching Stargate SG1.

In my mind the show had to end with Jake in some way. I always considered Jake and Benjamin's relationship to be the most important in the show, or one of them at the very least.

I have no doubt Odo was Worf’s source.

that principle would work for the real world better as well...

Worf reminds us of the words of Kaless: "Great men do not seek power. They have power thrust upon them."

@@rotorheadv8 yea it definitely is. No doubt about that

Beautifully written and great detail observation. Sometimes when a show is well written it highlights how all roles are significant even those that initially did not seem significant or have a shinny title with their role. This is also deeply and truly reflected in our every day lives as everyone who had/ have/ will interact with you are significant in their own unique way and you are significant to them in your own unique way. Welcome to the grand story book of life 😊. Love love love. Love love love.

Should've been MORN!

@@blusafe1 It was going to be Morn. I have no idea why they changed it! Morn SHOULD have had the last words!

He was the unseen heart and soul of DS9.

@@bobpage6597 What was Morn going to say?

@@danielyeshe No idea, it was never stated other than it had been planned he was going to have the last words, then they changed it to Quark instead.

There was going to be a big crossover film after Nemesis which would've brought all of the 90s shows together for one epic adventure. Sadly, we live in the universe where that never happened and instead got JJ Abrams.

Go watch Star Trek continues fan series, " To Boldy Go " Part two.

@@Shazam961 Love STC, great show!

Don't let Jar Jar Abrams near anything to do with Star Trek or Star Wars again.

They prefer tng movies with bad scripts. Instead of crossovers with ds9 and voyager. The money stopped and had to make the reboot that was fine but not very Star Trek.

And Aron a few months ago. I just started rewatching DS9 in honor of them, and I'm going to be blubbering so much during the finale

Who?

Steve20127 Rene played Odo, Aron played Nog

its not like Rene was young...

I remember remember rene auberjonois in the sitcom tv how benson and playing the minister in the movie the patriot, and the movie mash in 1970

Are you me?

Bro its the same for me, im 19 years old and my father was into star trek. And then i tried watching it i started with enterpirsr then TNG then voyager but when i started watching ds9 it was just something diffrent.

Babylon 5

We can ignore Babylon 5 and starwars of course .

@@philip5940 it was a good decade I liked Seaquest, Babylon 5, TNG, DS9, Voy, SG-1 and The X-Files...

Which us why it will never be Gene's Star Trek. This was Berman's Star Trek, and was a prelude to the STD and STP, the worst of the worst.

@@Armageist 'Tis very true that Bermanized Star Trek (especially STD) doesn't appeal to many older fans. However, some of us are very thankful that DS9 was NOT Gene's Star Trek. But if you worship his ST so much, then by all means, show your faith by flailing yourself with repeated viewings of TMP...

@@Armageist STD and STP are awful DS9 just was gritty

Ds9 put all the values and ideals that trek had established to the test. And to be honest even TNG got much better the less Roddenberry was involved. And sure ds9 toed the line a bit but comparing it to discovery or Picard is an insult.

@@Armageist It started out as Berman's Trek. It became Behr's Trek, and once he took the reins, it was a huge leap in the show's quality.

Holy hell... I had no idea he died! Goodbye, Odo. We'll miss you :(

Did he really die?? Or did he fake his death and shape shift into your coffee cup? 😁

Odo has rejoined The Great Link

Odo is one of the characters that had a bad start, but a great end. May Rene be remembered forever. Aaron Eisberg as well. May they rest in peace.

@@catertime3558 lung cancer..... :(

Anyone who can watch that episode without bawling should be euthanized.

But older, wiser, stronger, and ready to be on his own. And he has Kasidy to support him as well.

@@animateddepression my gf was bawling and I was laughing - come at me, go ahead and hand out death to the opposition!

But he wasn't alone - someone else pointed out that it doesn't appear that anything was going in or coming out so it seems it opened on it's own... Ben was watching from the Celestial Temple. Also: Thank you, youtube algorithm for showing me this a year+ on :P

Not alone, we know that he returns, his family knows he will return which was a vital part of the message. That when his task is done he will return home, to Bajor, for the family he had always truly wanted.

I know what you mean. I really hate the way Stargate Universe ended.

Yeah, the end of Voyager was far too abrupt and left no time to appreciate the events properly - the entire thing felt like a huge deus ex machina to finish the story because it wasn't going to continue past 7 seasons.

@Alexandre Like a Symphony... composed of many parts, each distinctively different, but each contributing to the totality of a created fabric, be it aural or visual.

Yea because repeating your sister show would be awesome move. Then you be here bitching about them taking ds9 ending.

@@Shadothecat AGREED!!!!!!!!! Voyager did a different take though that was GREAT. Instead of what happened after return to earth, this was talked about AD NAUSEA throughout the series, especially with Seven. We also got to see what they went through in the first half of the series finale in an alternate timeline so no need to re-hash the prime timeline imo.

New headcanon accepted!

I think you might be right.

To me, when Jake is staring blankly at the wormhole I like to think that he was receiving a vision from Ben. Telling him everything was gonna be alright

I would say that’s the beauty of ambiguous symbolism in entertainment, if what you take from it is true to you, no one can take it away from you

@@MrSheckstr Well said

Commander Sisko: Someone tried to kill you, Garak. Whoever it was may try again, so if I were you, I would give this matter some serious thought. Elim Garak: Well, let me see. I mean, there's the Nausicaan whose wedding suit I misplaced; and the Yridian I owe money to; and of course, there's always Major Kira. Dr. Julian Bashir: This is serious, Garak. Elim Garak: I'm being serious. I don't think she likes me. Odo: She doesn't. But if she wanted you dead, you would be. Elim Garak: You do have a point. Kira is the baddest ass on the series.

true, but there were so many questions left unanswered. Let's hope the new batch of series answers a lot of those questions.

Kira and Quark build a meth lab down in the hanger, to help keep everyone awake through an episode

The Sisko was of Bajor.

RW4X4X3006 - in the runabout to pay for Kira’s medical bills.

@@MarioMartinez-ek5ev Not a chance, CBS holds the copyrights and they would have to green light a sequel, not a reboot, or prequel. You'd get better odds on Russia becoming a democratic country, AND ISIS disbanding.

They say the future ain't what it used to be.

TheEmpowered787 Yeah that Kelvin timeline sucks. I have nothing against the actors. They are doing their best against bad script writing and plots. Attention writers and CBS/Paramount Studio heads Star Trek is not Star Wars.

Star Trek is still great, but Seth McFarlane literally makes Star Trek like they used to in the 90's.

Star Trek fan films cover the whole range, some are truly superb and some are truly awful, but they're all contrived visions of what their creators think Star Trek should be. _Discovery_ is basically just another Star Trek fan film, the only difference being who claims ownership of (and makes money from) Star Trek "canon". _Orville_ is basically just another Star Trek fan film, the only difference is that it simultaneously complies with and completely sidesteps Star Trek licensing "guidelines".

TheEmpowered787 because times change???

Solo trumpet made the moment...turned the theme into "Taps" for the past.

Jay Daire that’s why I like the books Sisko comes back

Aye! I watched the last episode of DS9 and literally bawled my eyes out. You know they've done the perfect ending to a Star Trek series when they skilfully manage to coax those tears from your eyes while simultaneously leaving you with the biggest lump in your throat. Yup, that solo trumpet was the final straw that opened the floodgates. DS9 was arguably the very best of Star Trek! It finished on a high!

Its such a BEAUTIFUL scene. Him and Kira, looking into space. Makes me cry like a weiner every time

@@kirstinebills5958 The original plan was that Sisko was not going to be coming back. Avery Brooks didn't like the idea, given the connotations of a black man leaving his pregnant wife and son behind - so he spoke with Ira and they re-shot the scene and adjusted the dialogue for the final meeting with Kasidy where he implies he's going to return, 'someday.'

Lost Age Comics It’s truly amazing what different clothing, hair, and makeup can do. And even though her uniform overtly becomes more form fitting and sleek and feminine as the show went on, it also mirrored the softening of her character and personality over time.

Looks like a Ro Laren makeover, lol.

She was very masculine in the beginning with a shrill voice. She was so sexy in a Starfleet uniform.

I never understood people’s obsession with Kira/Nana. I always thought she was frumpy and dough-faced.

@@zacharyfett2491 there's a lot of crossover of TNG fans and Geriatric porn. 😉

Try the last episode of Babylon 5.

John Bandow last ep of b5 emotionally wrecked me

Ain’t called DEEP Space Nine for nothing :/

Waffle Wagon oh that show was defiantly deep

Mystique the cute blue alien that typo couldn’t be more appropriate

This is really horrible. I didn't know Aaron also died. I haven't watched DS9 in years but still to this day the characters and their world pop into my mind once in a while. There were very few shows, and characters, I was so attached to as I was to DS9. I feel like a part of me was ripped out.

Sadly, with Rene Auberjonois (Odo) and Aaron Eisenberg (Nog) recent passing it makes the prospect of any revival or return to now my favorite star trek series that much further away and unlikely. As more cast members pass away or retire the chance of having one more reunion or revisiting of the franchise (outside of the recent documentary) increasing unlikely. Rene Auberjonois said it perfectly in his last scene in this episode when he tells Kira that this is the way he wants her to remember him. Maybe it is best that as sad as it is we too must let go and learn to remember the series for its brilliant characters and bold story telling. That is how I will chose to remember Deep Space Nine as Star Trek at its very best. I will forever treasure it as I will continue to watch and rewatch reruns of this series for the rest of my life and continue to find new details I missed years after the series conclusion. Thank you Deep Space Nine. We the fans will never forget you even 20 years later.

That's bad to die Sadly is horrible. Did he not have any family or friends to be by his side in his final hours. ☹

@@MrNaxman The conventions are going to be so rough for everyone

Someone should start a petition to have a starship named USS Nog on a new star trek series.

This was definitely on purpose

Instead, The Nana Visitor!

@@leeball4585 yes!

brillaint observation! I had not thought of that. Sisko finally returning before old man-Jakes death to say goodbye.

Funner fact: Morn was the TRUE matermind of the entire Dominion....it would have been revealed in a scene where he visits the female Founder in holding and she bows and says "we did all that you asked....but sadly, you will have to find another way to get them to respect you."

@@dragonchr15 You don't think I was making that up do you?

Thank god they changed that plan.... that guy already has, what, 50% of the lines in the series already.

@@abletodoit3051 Yeah, dude talks to much as it is.

I was in my late school years when the show aired in my country, one episode a week, right after school at the afternoon. Finished school with the final episodes. So basically said goodbye to my youth with that final zoom. :,-)

Forlorn Dream that’s not linear 😢

Abbas Zaidi corporeal

They were supposed to be in one after Nemesis where The Enterprise E (Picard), Voyager (Admiral Janway), and the Defiant 2 (Worf and Kira) would have to go on a rescue mission to save Riker and Troy on the Titan. Unfortunately after the very poor showing and results from Nemesis all future movie plans were nixed.

@@hudsonball4702 Would have liked to see DS9 movie but not too crazy about the possible treatment. Too many in the mix.

must 'have' been.

Star trek: Sisko

White Light flashes *The Sisko is of Bajor, this is not linear* So will we see him again? *you are linear, the Sisko is of Bajor* White Light flashes off..... "what the hell?...."

Armando Ortiz it's been 20 years, I hate to say it he's not coming back

I think it was more like she is now the boss. Through the last season she learned how to lead without being visceral, which was her lack in her leadership

He actually did return in the books

Where has the time gone...........:(

@@bobpage6597 Exactly

CBS is looking for high ratings fast. Problem is TPTB at CBS are not very good at anticipating viewers tastes and have a my way or else. Maybe under new leadership it will change.

There is an Enterprise F it’s in Star Trek Online

No, the real reason is that the Star Trek IP is tied up in rights limbo. There's a KZhead channel called Midnight's Edge who has a video explaining the whole situation in detail. I think this is video: kzhead.info/sun/os6tiMOHsWaNpo0/bejne.html

Well they could have used the Discovery sets and set it in the 25th century. That would have made sense. Instead let’s rewrite the visual cannon of Star Trek.

Yeah, I'm getting sick of seeing different versions of the Enterprise 1701, like the 1701 of the Kelvin timeline and now there's another version in Discovery. I've only ever preferred the TOS 1701 and the refit 1701 from the first 3 TOS films. So yeah, move forward and give us something new after all the past Star Trek captains.

I agree. At the same time, I disagree. Without idealism, Sisko, Kira, even Garak would not have persevered. Granted, it's an idealism compromised by circumstance. If idealism was a clear stream, it more often than not was muddled - and many times there was blood in the water. But without idealism, not one of these characters would have had a reason to stay and stand their ground.

It was based on ideas ripped off from Babylon 5, created by J. MICAHEL Straczynski....Voyager was more true to Rodenberry's trek... The diffetences are apparent.

Daniel Williamson .

And then... some years later Starfleet appointed an IDIOT Kurland as DS 9 Commander. ^_- \\// (based on Star Trek Online)

Colonel Kira.

@@DarthSideous63 She'll always be Major Kira to me.

Elliott Lockwood voyager was the closest to what gene wanted and the most emotional and best written

MOLE, ok, I want to know what you're smoking. Best written? Not even close. The writing on voyager was spotty at best.

To each their own, certain styles sit better with people more than others... personally, DS9 is my favorite Star Trek Series, but I know one person who argues that STD is.... we don't talk that much these days

Thorus Zwolf I love discovery because it's deeply preaching if you're in the choir. Minorities on many levels. Prey species. A chubby confident lady. Let alone a Vulcan having to deal with racist attacking him for his adopted child. It's kinda beautiful. I believe each stands on the foundation of all it's forerunners. We'll excuse the klunker episodes in every series.

DS9 is the definitive Star Trek experience.

Miss the series, too. But its best that The Sisko is never seen in the Alpha Quadrant again. Leaves folks guessing.

Unfortunately we will have 23 century JJ Abrams spinoffs 😭

me to

I certainly hope that with the new documentary, “What We Left Behind,” we’ll finally have an answer for Benjamin Sisko and his possible return.

Aaron Cohen I don't know if it's true but I read an interview in TV guide over 20 years ago and Avory Brooks said at the time "I would to do a deep space nine movie, I think we could hold our own'. If that's true then they missed out on a big oputuinity

I don't much like the Dragon Ball Z action they had going on later and Captain Sisko/Dukat's superpowers but eh I guess they had to wrap things up in a hurry of sorts. This was good, I'm just saying all the things that led to the end weren't so great. They should've just cut it off after the war saga instead of going all magical.

Agreed, even though it was a stolen idea. Babylon 5 was a better show imho.

The "powers" were consistent with what had been revealed and the overall religion basis of the show. Babylon 5 was a more focused show with much more "magic" . I think both were excellent and brilliant. I was a Babylon 5 fan before becoming a Trekkie. Even though it's inspired by it's a saga vs a show. Space above and beyond and Battlestar Galactica are both brilliant but are entirely different story telling styles and reasons who just happened to be in space. Like star wars has no eligible women even in the background. Just happened in space but has nothing to do with a sustainable society in space.

Like it was even close. JMS set up both of them, but only got paid for one.

Michael Connor Right, because B5 was the first story of a space station, right? The claim has never held any real water, and it still doesn't.

Funny you should mention Copland and "Appalachian Spring." Dennis McCarthy, the composer for DS9 - who won an Emmy and been nominated numerous times for his Star Trek work - cites: "Well, I think the biggest influence that any composition ever had on me was “Appalachian Spring” by Copland." He said this during a 1993 interview.

Most beautiful Star Trek theme.

@crgzero Morn actually was supposed to talk during the series, but the costume department couldn't get the mouth piece to move in a natural looking way.

I don't think I ever heard Morn speak

@@stareyedwitch ever thought of CGI, CGI can make old people look young again, i'm pretty sure they can make a person talk

This season aired in the late 1990s. Even if the CGI was good enough back then to do it, it probably would have looked awful. I doubt they'll go back and give Morn the last word with CGI whenever they do a remastered version. They're not George Lucas.

@@stareyedwitch well back then animatronics was still in circulation, they could have created a mask with a small amount of gears instead of using the actors own mouth to make it move.

Michael Kurland oh you best not be lying. Season 8 of ds9 would be glorious, to hell with the reboot movies and discovery.

They should just put the season 8 novels into a series, that's it

as fascinating as a season 8 would be, I think the show wrapped up just fine and I wouldn't want to bring it back and undo how the show ended. it would be better to launch a new Star Trek and maybe have the DS9 cast pop up on that show from time to time.

I agree. I think I would enjoy a brand new post-Voyager series with an occasional cameo or even a guest starring role from an "old Trek" cast member. Maybe one episode could feature Kira as a Vedek after retiring from the Bajoran military, while another episode could feature Ambassador Worf in some way.

They'll never do a remastered HD version of DS9 or Voyager (for those who care about it). They never filmed either of them on actual film like they did with TOS and TNG; they basically went straight to video tape. There were a few other reasons related to the tech they used to film and generate the visual effects, as well. They also found it was very expensive to remaster TNG, even with the high-quality film sources they had (which never existed for DS9 or Voy).

i usually dont like kid charachters on TV shows, but he did really really good. (watch and learn wesleay. and shut up) xD

Worf stayed on with Picard after the events of Nemesis I believe, could be wrong though.

Paul Graham oh I figured... But I never really liked Worf. Too Klingon to be human, too human too be Klingon. He kinda sucked all around. Even when all was said and done in his little world, he never knew how to act like a Klingon, and that bothered me... But not so much that I actually care...DS9 is still a great show with great characters.

Erik Willcox Yea, Worf was like Shaft. Too black for the badge, too blue for the brothers.

kzhead.info/sun/mMifnNFvf5ppm6s/bejne.html

Worf has the worst outcome of all. He hooks up with Jadzia Dax a woman with hundreds of years experience in a tight 20 something year old body. As a Klingon he gets KO knockout in almost ever battle he's in . His son is a failure as a warrior but held the office of Federation Ambassador to the Klingon Empire Kind of like putting a Klingon on the Island of misfit toys. And after all he has been through Paramount never made a Captain Worf show .......

Me too.

There were a few things that Gene Roddenberry did get wrong, like this and the reality that there will always be groups in the background doing shady stuff even in the future.

All real world evidence would suggest we will indeed one day grow out of religion. (If we survive long enough) I think this is one he got right.

Roddenberry was a Humanist and thought of religion as "nonsense". He had his flaws, but that wasn't one of them.

Neither God nor his prophets are the problem. It is people and what they do and how they misrepresent or misunderstand the message that is the problem. God, save me from your followers.

@@davemiller6055 No, god is a problem aswell. thank god the doesn't exist.

BUT WAIT, there's going to be a Captain Picard Show! We may yet sett glimmers of DS9 again!!!

There was that bit of Worf on the Defiant in First Contact.

@@shingshongshamalama That was set during Season 5. But we do indeed see Worf again in Nemesis

there is a kind of spin-off of DS9 in star trek online, that takes place 30 some years after.

Part of me hoped maybe we would get more DS9 like a mini series or season 8 as teased in the recent documentary. But with we’ve lost two brilliant actors from that show this year and apparently Brooks’s health hasn’t been too hot. I’m still stunned we lost René Auberjonois. And Eisenberg was too young.

I started watching mid-run in the 90s and got hooked. Need to rewatch from the start. Also, at some point I need to rewatch The Expanse, too

Donnie Johnson awful series compared to the rest

@@-M0LE That dishonor goes to Star Trek: Enterprise.

Terra Claiborne I actually prefer ENT

The bastard child is Discovery. STD indeed.

@@TheEmpressReborn Enterprise was - in many ways - more Star Trek, than anything after TOS.

Scott Nahler voyager even more superior

They are the REAL Star Trek.

Are "Old and tired" what kids are calling award winning writing and amazing, relatable characters these days?

I suggest watching Babylon 5 and Battlestar Galactica because of the shared writing staff and some on screen talents too. I backed into being a Trekkie following a Babylon 5 author. But I enjoyed most all of the treks. Including continues.

Stargate too!!