The Way of Water & The Future of Cinema

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  • I agree with the love for water! It was refreshing to see how much time they dedicated to just hanging out with the families and the Tulkun in the ocean

    @BryceEdwardBrown@BryceEdwardBrown Жыл бұрын
  • As person living in the Philippines, an island country, I really loooooooove the ocean scenes ❤ I appreciate what Cameron did with the movie. I know the plot is simple but I can accept that for now hehe I hope they improved the storyline with 3 & 4 since we now have the conflict with Spider

    @socratesabergos571@socratesabergos571 Жыл бұрын
  • Loved the first and second films. I think we make a mistake when we separate the visuals from the story. The environmental message of the Avatar franchise fully relies on the beauty of its world and its immersion (more than relying on what the characters are saying). The whole point of films is that they are visual, yet I don’t think visual world design has ever been used as a narrative tool to the extent James Cameron does in this series. I’m not watching Avatar for the dialogue the same way I don’t watch Tarantino films for their “immersive visuals”.

    @luz4466@luz4466 Жыл бұрын
    • Dialogue is overrated. I'd rather have 10 hours of a focused script with atrocious dialogue than 2 hours of Aron Sorkin level dialogue with an unfocused story.

      @sanitorz232@sanitorz232 Жыл бұрын
  • Best effects i've ever seen. Almost everything felt real. I went to see it on 3D IMAX and i felt the many layers of the jungle, and the deepness of the ocean. I didn't want to leave it, and after i did i wanted to come back. I think that it needs to be seen in 3D to appreciate it, since it was made for that. I think it's an unique experience. And regarding the plot, it is not awesome, but it's still strong and effective as it was in the first film. Like i know it's nothing new and some things were predictible, but yet i was immersed and cared for the characters. Probably Shakespearean stuff going on in there.

    @santiagorojaspiaggio@santiagorojaspiaggio Жыл бұрын
  • I'd say Pandora's ocean biome in Way of Water did not come across as otherworldly and fantastical as the forest biome in the first Avatar (although no less breathtakingly gorgeous), but I guess much of the whole world vibes strongly with tropical island vacations so it can get away with being a bit more Earth-like, I hope we'll get back to reinventing the remaining landscapes and ecosystems of Pandora more boldly like the first one in the next sequels though

    @zzzzzz69@zzzzzz69 Жыл бұрын
  • Avatar did not need to make 2 billion to brake even. That's fake news based on one off hand comment from Cameron, not official data. Based on box office analysis, it already made profit after it made 800 million.

    @LelekPLN@LelekPLN Жыл бұрын
    • Correct, it was the domestic BO that Cameron was referring to in his comments hence the $800mil BE. Further I suspect that this number includes RD that was done for both 2&3 (if not all 4 sequels). Also given that large amounts of 3 were filmed at the same time, to some degree that factors in (regardless of the accounting) cuz of it “bombed”(struggled to crack the top 50-10) the money had already been spent. Cameron has never been irresponsible w/ the large budgets his films since the Abyss have required. Fronting $2Bil to just break even when only 5 films (other than WoW now) in history have done so & on a sequel 13yrs later would be certifiable. Anybody who would make such a bet would deserve to be parted w/ their money and have it redistributed. Saying a movie would take $2Bil to break even is asinine & stupid. $800mil is a crazy enough number/bet !!!!

      @dkarras@dkarras Жыл бұрын
    • Are you fan of Dan Murrel as well?

      @noahlilly9083@noahlilly9083 Жыл бұрын
    • @@dkarras Don't forget about marketing

      @MuppetsSh0w@MuppetsSh0w Жыл бұрын
    • You're right in that no official numbers aside from the budget don't get released but usually a good rule of thumb is to take the announced budget, double it to factor in marketing and distribution costs, and add a 50% margin on top to create your break even number, which in Avantar's case really was 2 billion.

      @brohiddlesby7010@brohiddlesby7010 Жыл бұрын
    • @@brohiddlesby7010 that's not how you count bo profits. A rule of thumb is that about 50% of gross is going back to studios, while the rest stays with cinema chains (it varies from country to country e.g. in the US the studios keep 60% while in China only 20% but 50% is usually the rule of thumb for all countries). Hence if a movie makes 800 million the studio keeps 400. Since the movie's budget was 350 million, we can say under 100 million for marketing then it should cover most of the costs. Even if you'd count a 200 million marketing campaign, the movie would only need 1 billion to break even. Not 2. That's absurd

      @LelekPLN@LelekPLN Жыл бұрын
  • Watched Avatar 2 four times in cinema!! Amazing movie, I love it 💙💙

    @Bit2bi@Bit2bi Жыл бұрын
  • I agree. I thought the extended ocean sequences would be boring on subsequent views, but after seeing this movie 6 times (so far) I absolutely adore all the ocean scenes.

    @pixxelwizzard@pixxelwizzard Жыл бұрын
  • James Cameron is the master of 3D cinematography and Avatar is the purest and simplest example of his craft. No one else in Hollywood can do what James Cameron does so well. He has been immersing audiences the same way since 1984 with The Terminator. He never actually needed a 3D camera

    @LukeLovesRose@LukeLovesRose Жыл бұрын
  • I love watching your videos, you've a really nice way of telling stories. I will watch more of your past creations and try to learn from them. I'm also excited to see the new videos you'll upload, good luck :)

    @chaitanya737@chaitanya737 Жыл бұрын
  • For many years I been seeing these videos talking down Avatar 1 like a movie that is forgettable and no one remembers...........yet ALL THESE VIDEOS mention the names, locations and more than all......the UNOBTANIUM, and I always says, I remember all those details, because is a SIMPLE STORY, and that always been the strongest part of any James Cameron film, simple stories, great characters, and Avatar was never an exception, and I always knew when it comes to make SEQUELS, James is always excel, and Avatar 2 deliver in every single way possible, story, characters, world-building and VFX, when James Cameron says he will push forward the VFX, he does always. I love this film so much, love the returning characters, Jake, Neytiri, Quaritch, and the new characters, Lo'ak, Neteyam, Kiri, Puk and Spider, as well the new support characters like Ronal, Tonowari and Tsireya. I already watched 3 times and I plan to go one last time as soon I have some free time.

    @Kusanagikaiser999@Kusanagikaiser999 Жыл бұрын
  • A2's break even point was around $1.2-1.4B. Still insane, but not the $2B rumor that the media ran with initially. Also, we're in a weird time where VFX have gotten so good that people can no longer tell they're looking at CGI unless it was rushed or done poorly. Movies like Top Gun: Maverick had tons of digital VFX and CGI, but it was done with such care and attention to realistic detail that most were fooled into thinking it was real and practical. It must be frustrating for VFX artists to see their best work being promoted by studio executives, directors, and cast members as "practical" for marketing while simultaneously disallowing the visual effects studios from promoting their work due to gag order NDAs; a pretty sad situation all around. I like that James Cameron is open and honest about his use of VFX and celebrates the work of his designers and artists. They strive for greatness and it always shows on screen.

    @tronam@tronam5 ай бұрын
  • I want to experience Avatar in a new cinema experience I have imagined. You sit alone, or with a few other close friends. And the screen and sound experience wraps around you 360 degrees including overhead. To be truly inside the world of Pandora. I'd probably be comfortable to pay $200 a ticket for such an experience. Filming a movie in such a way tho to give that 360 degree environment experience would be difficult I'm sure. But imagine how all the under water scenes would play out like that... Wow!

    @larryhouse3776@larryhouse3776 Жыл бұрын
    • I would pay for 360 avatar.

      @ElectricAlien577@ElectricAlien577 Жыл бұрын
  • And not a single word about the actual future of cinema: HFR. It's just amazing, and everything I ever hoped for, clear picture even when moving. Not a colory smudge, but an actual picture like we see it with our eyes. Especially action movies and sport events need to adapt it asap. TVs already do 120 Hz in most cases, there is an HFR standard already existing and being used in a few movies. Now we should actually use it because it's amazing. 24 fps has always been bad for movement and I can't understand how people still defend it, it's ancient and it's terrible for fast-ish movement.

    @xyoxus@xyoxus Жыл бұрын
    • I know. Everyone seems to say that high framerate makes movies worse, or claim that hfr is the reason certain movies look bad. I have never understood this. There are VERY few instances where lower 24 fps framerate is actually preferable over 48+ framerate. Hfr ALWAYS look better to me. Always. The hobbit didn't look bad cus of the framerate. The cgi was just sub par compared to LOTR.

      @ElectricAlien577@ElectricAlien577 Жыл бұрын
  • I LOVED your summary/concluding thoughts. Thank you!

    @alexisreda7978@alexisreda7978 Жыл бұрын
  • Off topic here, but thanks for making that "when an artist turns pro" video. It's still stuck with me and helped me all these years later.

    @jeremymunene5304@jeremymunene5304 Жыл бұрын
  • Great Ground work and loved enjoying the frames

    @rajeni711@rajeni711 Жыл бұрын
  • it needed 1.4 bllion to break even which it has already broken long ago, this was said by jc himself out of his mouth a couple of weeks ago.

    @Bird-Birdy-Love@Bird-Birdy-Love Жыл бұрын
  • What happened to video on Jaehaerys Targaryen?

    @samuelh9599@samuelh9599 Жыл бұрын
  • "His" VFX company? WETA is owned by Peter Jackson not James Cameron.

    @dyBBelyBTASTIC@dyBBelyBTASTIC Жыл бұрын
    • My mistake

      @storytellers1@storytellers1 Жыл бұрын
    • @@storytellers1 In hindsight my comment wasn't really needed as who owns WETA isn't essential to the essay you made. I enjoyed your video, keep them comming.

      @dyBBelyBTASTIC@dyBBelyBTASTIC Жыл бұрын
    • @@dyBBelyBTASTIC It's complicated anyway because it's a huge collaboration between James Cameron's production company Lightstorm Entertainment where he has his own design team, who then partnered with WETA, ILM and half a dozen other VFX companies over roughly 5 years of unbroken production. The amount of people who worked on TWOW is kind of insane, like 3800 folks. He actually lives in New Zealand and even started another company with Peter Jackson. I don't know where he finds time to sleep.

      @tronam@tronam Жыл бұрын
  • Dredd 3D was the only other 3D movie that left an impression on me

    @SP-pn7xx@SP-pn7xx Жыл бұрын
  • Ive seen criticism that middle of the movie was slow, but I also quite enjoyed that portion of the movie. Just being immersed in the Metkayina village and surrounding habitat was very appealing to me.

    @hairyape_8103@hairyape_8103 Жыл бұрын
  • Before I watch this video, "Raising the bar" is a South Park reference, right? I refuse to believe it isn't

    @ItsHotGarbage@ItsHotGarbage Жыл бұрын
    • Yes it is.

      @storytellers1@storytellers1 Жыл бұрын
    • @@storytellers1 Awesome!

      @ItsHotGarbage@ItsHotGarbage Жыл бұрын
  • I believe Cameron was baiting us when he said that The Way of Water needed 2 billion dollars to break even

    @LukeLovesRose@LukeLovesRose Жыл бұрын
    • It’s funny because he never actually said a specific number. A GQ editor threw out a guess and then tons of other media outlets picked it up. All water under the bridge now though since it’s already well within profitability.

      @tronam@tronam Жыл бұрын
  • Little rant of mine incoming; Stop Blaming CGI y'all . Please. Almost every movie that is marketing itself as "practical effects and no CGI" is in fact, a massive load of CGI done well enough that you can't see. That's true for Nolan's films, Villeneuve's films and yes, that's especially true for Top Gun Maverick as well. I'm so tired to see "This movie 's been done without CGI." in the marketing while relying completely on us for almost every damn shot. Source: I'm a professional VFX Artist whose name is on the credits of some of these movies and I am so effing tired to see my life's work being blamed and despised by people who have arguably little idea what they're talking about. I'd go so far as to confidently say that more often than not, WE are more important to the movie's final look than the directors we work with (Cameron is NOT included in this description). "CGI overload" does not address incompetence from production houses, directionless directors and constant cost and time cutting measures. Rant over. :)

    @quentinarrius@quentinarrius Жыл бұрын
  • Dankjewel! Ik heb de film nog niet gezien, maar je hebt mij, als mede waterrat, al enthousiast gemaakt.

    @jaydee25@jaydee25 Жыл бұрын
  • The whole CGI discussion is entirely in bad faith in my opinion. I personally prefer the most practical you can get but ignoring the possibilities with CGI is kinda dumb, people praise Mad Max: Fury Road for using practicals but George Miller didn't have a problem with CG either. It's a good tool, it's safer for the crew but you need to know how and when to use it, it's also important to ground the visuals in something we can relate to which is something Cameron does very well since he shoots capture like he would photography. Good directors know that at the end of the day, it's just a tool to enhance a story, if you focus too much on your practical effects it will have the same effect as vfx overload with the only exception of going "ooooh that's nice" and "mhmm I wonder how they did that?" Don't get me wrong I like that and I've definitely seen some movies just because the name Tom Savini or Screaming Mad George are involved, but the story is the most important aspect, always.

    @sanitorz232@sanitorz232 Жыл бұрын
    • Cameron once said he probably wouldn't be able to make these films the way he does if he hadn't spent all those decades with traditional film cinematography, set building, location shooting, practical effects, etc... I also find it interesting how the majority of his senior team collaborators are also older, coming from the analog era like himself. There's probably something to be said for approaching cutting edge technology with some old school rigor and discipline to help ground it. Cameron tends to block his scenes and build his shots in the same way he always did, regardless if it's live action or CGI. I recently rewatched T1 and Aliens and that same kinetic filmmaking fingerprint is immediately recognizable.

      @tronam@tronam Жыл бұрын
  • CGI takes time to be done right... Avatar TWOW just proves it's best to wait for better quality.

    @PeanutStrawberry@PeanutStrawberry Жыл бұрын
  • I agree about the love of water playing into my love for this film!

    @twinsauce@twinsauce Жыл бұрын
  • The 'bro' criticism falls apart when you realise that all dialogue is an interpretation of the Navi language. Meaning that nobody is (literally) saying 'bro'

    @10pmmemes88@10pmmemes88 Жыл бұрын
    • I think it is still distracting nonetheless as saying the word 'bro' repeatedly is kinda annoying (to me) in whatever language.

      @BankMoviegoer@BankMoviegoer Жыл бұрын
    • James Cameron lives in New Zealand, and 'bro' is a super common term here, so I never found it weird or distracting. They just sounded like normal teenagers to me. It's especially common with Maori, and Maori culture had a big impact on the Metkayina tribe. Chief Tonowari and many other Metkayina were played by Maori actors, the tattoos they wear are very similar to Maori tribal tattoos.

      @jackbaxter2223@jackbaxter2223 Жыл бұрын
    • @Bank - Moviegoer As someone who uses "bro" all the time, both ironically, and casually. It didn't detract from my experience a single bit.

      @ElectricAlien577@ElectricAlien577 Жыл бұрын
  • Yes

    @d.a826@d.a826 Жыл бұрын
  • The Avatar Movies are pushing cgi to its limit while others are using it as an excuse to save money

    @EngineeringPilot@EngineeringPilot Жыл бұрын
  • Avatar: #TeamTrees Avatar 2: #TeamSeas (with a touch of How to Train Your Dragon)

    @YOEL_44@YOEL_44 Жыл бұрын
  • The first movie planted itself permanently in my mind. I have been waiting patiently for the sequel since 2009. The demographic is not the same as say Star Wars or the Marvel franchise. These fans are loud in their love for these movies and their hate for the Avatar universe. Many of these fans also creamed themselves for Top Gun 2. Talk about a used and very simple storyline.

    @KikiLivesInMe@KikiLivesInMe Жыл бұрын
  • holdup that was kate winslet??

    @gamiezion@gamiezion Жыл бұрын
  • Simple plots are often the most profound

    @MingusDynastyy@MingusDynastyy Жыл бұрын
  • I love your critic. You were objective even though you are not a fan. It was the same way with me

    @recetasfaciles2816@recetasfaciles2816 Жыл бұрын
  • THE DUTCH ACCENT IS SO HILARIOUS

    @urmom22851@urmom22851 Жыл бұрын
  • But it wasnt just a tree. It was home to hundreds of Navi.

    @LukeLovesRose@LukeLovesRose Жыл бұрын
  • Those were not simply just trees

    @enzoamore8971@enzoamore8971 Жыл бұрын
  • The bro issue hasn't been a problem for me becausd i watched the french dub

    @Yun_er@Yun_er Жыл бұрын
  • noice

    @bobleponge9150@bobleponge9150 Жыл бұрын
  • Part of "what every artist strives for" is "being universally appealing on a global level"? You make great videos, but some of your scripts need a little more reflection, revision, and perhaps external reviews.

    @TheHadMatters@TheHadMatters Жыл бұрын
  • I feel like Avatar doesn't get enough credit for being such a boldly environmentalist story on such a grand and mainstream scale. What other major live-action franchise is based almost entirely on an idea like just making the audience love a planet in its natural beauty, and then just putting that beauty at risk and letting that be the entire crux of the story? I feel like so much of the criticism about how "simple" this is, misses the point intentionally, most likely because the issue at the core of most criticism of these movies and their supposed lack of cultural relevance... is that they don't like the environmental message.

    @AWSVids@AWSVids Жыл бұрын
    • what exactly is the environmental message? To love our planet? But how do we do that is the question. Everyone wants to love the planet. But we don't know how to actually do that. Actually we even know it. But we won't do it that way. We are still looking for alternatives so that we don't have to sacrifice as much. That is the current problem of our time.

      @Rithmy@Rithmy Жыл бұрын
  • It will never not be funny to me that the MCU spent about a decade to get a film to top Cameron at the box office and then he just turns around and drops another movie that's beaten everything they made except Endgame. Then he also released an updated version of Avatar in theaters to make it the #1 box office movie again. I don't even like Avatar that much I'm just happy to see someone prove all the haters wrong after they spent a decade wondering why Avatar topped the box office and claiming Avatar 2 would flop.

    @thisishandlenumber2048@thisishandlenumber2048 Жыл бұрын
  • I personally prefer Avatar 1 way more. Idk even though the story is simple it feels like the main characters have way more depth and are better written

    @papalpatte@papalpatte Жыл бұрын
  • His name is James, James Cameron The bravest pioneer No budget too steep, no sea too deep Who's that? It's him, James Cameron James, James Cameron explorer of the sea With a dying thirst to be the first Could it be? Yeah that's him! James Cameron

    @RyanFloom@RyanFloom Жыл бұрын
  • "The biggest weak point of the first film is it's narrative." Sorry, hard disagree here. The narrative is one of my favorite things about the 1st film.

    @pixxelwizzard@pixxelwizzard Жыл бұрын
    • Agree. It may be full of cliches, but that doesn't make it bad. The story of avatar is one that speaks to me personally, and whether people want to admit or not, it depicts corporate colonizers accurately, and in a way that our world has seen multiple times over. Avatar is a true story in a Sci fi context.

      @ElectricAlien577@ElectricAlien577 Жыл бұрын
    • @@ElectricAlien577 But it suggest no new approach to the problem. It ends with being an analysis of one aspekt of capitalism. Which in turn is perfectly in sync with capitalism. As long as we are busy consuming we won't go out into the world to do things no one pays for, but everyone is really glad to have.

      @Rithmy@Rithmy Жыл бұрын
  • I wanted to point out how easily you were pleased by mainstream and how uncritical that was, but then you showed Charlie and I compulsively clicked the thumbs up. Darn it!

    @elstevobevo@elstevobevo Жыл бұрын
  • Bro and Cuz lol

    @johnnyjohnnyjohnny11@johnnyjohnnyjohnny11 Жыл бұрын
  • Something I personally can't relate to (which is why I find it highly interesting hearing it from lots of other people) is this feeling of "hanging out" in Pandora. Maybe it's just because I'm more used to videogames and thus even higher levels of immersion (referring not to the quality of the experience, but purely to the ability to choose myself which aspect of the medium I spend more or less time on), but I really didn't feel like I was actually spending time in Pandora myself while watching the second Avatar. The movie only shows me the world, but I am forced to spend "my" time there with characters I personally didn't really connect with, only able to see what they decide to pay attention to, and only go where they decide to go (which wasn't great because of how many terrible decisions especially the kids made imo). So to me, it just never really feels like "my" time on Pandora, which is why I think the movie didn't work for me and it's interesting to me how differently it can affect and immerse people.

    @CritsVG@CritsVG Жыл бұрын
  • What is the future of cinema? The future will be each studio doing away with superheroes and instead creating their own photo real space epics like cameron.

    @user-yl4lf9mh1w@user-yl4lf9mh1w Жыл бұрын
  • I can let the bros pass seeing as the script was probably written about 10 plus years ago

    @calebramat7649@calebramat7649 Жыл бұрын
    • I can let it pass since I live in New Zealand and a large amount of the population talks like that all the time. One of my coworkers says bro as often as Lo'ak and Neteyam do.

      @jackbaxter2223@jackbaxter2223 Жыл бұрын
  • Why do people still talk about the 2 billion dollar break even point? It makes no sense at all, but I guess it's provocative

    @vpuik@vpuik Жыл бұрын
  • The movie was about technology vs enviroment. City vs Nature. It tried to show us the feminine aspect of the cosmos being nature and the ocean. Only part Cameron should work on in his stories is his vilains, they are too easy to read.

    @theangryslav9115@theangryslav9115 Жыл бұрын
  • Is that a Dutch accent I hear? No wonder you love wonder, makker

    @channelbelongtous@channelbelongtous Жыл бұрын
  • Are you seriously citing critical drinker? 🤣

    @alltradesjack502@alltradesjack502 Жыл бұрын
  • Booooo

    @citizentuck@citizentuck Жыл бұрын
  • "The Studio System" is dead.

    @christopherk222@christopherk222 Жыл бұрын
  • Spoiler alert: It's the exact same story as the first Avatar. There is nothing new to see here, just more pretty colors.

    @interstellarsurfer@interstellarsurfer Жыл бұрын
    • Even I'm not a huge fan and this is super inaccurate. It's a by the numbers blockbuster still, but it has a different plot than the first.

      @BreadCatMarcus@BreadCatMarcus Жыл бұрын
    • @@BreadCatMarcus Think about it for a minute, and you'll realize you're wrong. They substituted one macguffin for another, substituted fish for trees, and straight up resurrected the bad guys. The intra-tribal conflict 'are you one of us?' stuff is recycled. The only tiny bit of progress the story allowed itself, is the partial changing of the generations.

      @interstellarsurfer@interstellarsurfer Жыл бұрын
    • @@BreadCatMarcus It's basically "Ecology problems should be noticed and solved. With blue aliens killing humans".

      @cptrandom3768@cptrandom3768 Жыл бұрын
    • @@BreadCatMarcus Popularity has nothing to do with quality. People, including me, watch Avatar 2 because of marketing, not because it is some masterpiece or revolutionary in any way.

      @marko6489@marko6489 Жыл бұрын
  • Let me guess, you like the positive representation of the themes of fatherhood because you're a daddy (?)

    @veganjotaro@veganjotaro Жыл бұрын
    • Only to my corgi

      @storytellers1@storytellers1 Жыл бұрын
    • @@storytellers1 hahaha I knew it! he's adorable btw 😊

      @veganjotaro@veganjotaro Жыл бұрын
  • I respectfully disagree. It’s still just a pretty movie with a unnuanced, tright “protect the environment” message that doesn’t really go very deep. Also; it’s still a fantasy of a white dude getting to inhabit an indigenously coded alien body so he can fight back against the colonialist oppressors and earn redemption for those who did the harm in the first place by saying #notallhumans. Also you quoting critical drinker sadly makes me uncomfortable here and I’m prob gonna be unsubscribing. I wish you the best.

    @JessieGender1@JessieGender1 Жыл бұрын
    • It's only about protecting the environment if that's what all you see. The movie is about a man confronting the unconscious as well as transhumanism. The main symbol is water

      @MingusDynastyy@MingusDynastyy Жыл бұрын
  • it's kind of shocking no one is talking about how in this film specifically how much the uncanny valley shows itself, even more than the original.

    @atom6799@atom6799 Жыл бұрын
  • I miss the Oscars when it awards movies like this.

    @jaypeelaguna8114@jaypeelaguna8114 Жыл бұрын
  • I'm sorry, but how is the SP episode even gets a pass? Cameron really actually does great things and he knows his worth. Full stop. You can't be sarcastic about it. If him explaining his work sounds like bragging to some people... well these people suck, not him.

    @imotogin@imotogin Жыл бұрын
    • Cameron has openly admitted to having an ego, but you're right. He's a man with a large ego who has proven time and again that he can absolutely back that ego up with results. He talks the talk and then walks the walk, and he makes sure he can do something (such as free diving) before he asks it of his actors. And for what it's worth, he apparently greatly enjoyed the South Park parody of him.

      @jackbaxter2223@jackbaxter2223 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@jackbaxter2223 "he said so himself" argument is a tricky one. Cameron said on many occasions that he'd finished with Terminator years ago, yet somehow people expected him to make the 6th film good, even though he didn't direct or write it. And on the other hand, I for one don't see this at all, but I do hear people complaining about his ego a lot. I see a guy who is genuinely happy with what he managed to do. And he's proud of it, has every right to be... Idk to me it's just a common place misconception, started in the industry itself and perpetuated by yt echo chamber. Cameron seems one of the most humble people in the industry, his achievement considered. As you said, he doesn't just talk big, he has the goods. And it's good if he enjoyed the show, but I don't really see what's so funny about it. Will have to give it another viewing maybe, I usually love what they do, their humor is on point, it's just this one doesn't connect at all.

      @imotogin@imotogin Жыл бұрын
  • quoting the misogynistic, conservative, close-minded and hateful critical drinker does you no favor. honestly left me with a bad taste in my mouth.

    @starkingbiker@starkingbiker Жыл бұрын
    • He’s not any of those things, that’s a gross mischaracterization of him.

      @themanofshadows@themanofshadows Жыл бұрын
    • @@themanofshadows yes he is. buddy just watch his content and his twitter

      @starkingbiker@starkingbiker Жыл бұрын
    • @@starkingbiker I do.

      @themanofshadows@themanofshadows Жыл бұрын
  • You mean the "future of CGI" right? There's nothing about this movie that would revolutionize dialogue or characters. From a plot perspective it's a very paint by numbers story. This movie is completely carried by it's special effects. Which is funny coming from a director who hates Marvel movies for being "theme park rides" who then went on to create 2 of his own.

    @StephenLeGresley@StephenLeGresley Жыл бұрын
    • But the story is much more involved and meaningful than people realize; these movies aren’t just visual spectacles, they’re also narratively great as well.

      @themanofshadows@themanofshadows Жыл бұрын
    • Not really, it's a fairly standard "Dances with Wolves" style narrative except in this case it's being mixed with The Last Airbender.

      @StephenLeGresley@StephenLeGresley Жыл бұрын
    • @@StephenLeGresley FilmSpeak made a great video discussing the story behind Avatar, which I highly recommend. I don’t really see why people are now comparing it to The Last Airbender, Cameron is just exploring other racial groups of Nav’i as opposed to solely focusing on the Jungle races. The concept may seem familiar with the elemental powers (being the water and ash visual distinctions), but it seems Avatar is less focused on the elemental and more on the geological aspects. The series is one big environmental justice piece.

      @themanofshadows@themanofshadows Жыл бұрын
    • @@themanofshadows Because each tribe is connected to a different element?

      @StephenLeGresley@StephenLeGresley Жыл бұрын
    • @@StephenLeGresley I love ATLA, but this attempt to somehow link it to JC's Avatar beyond the similarity in name is one of the sillier things I've seen online. Bending is straight up magic; they're elemental wizards. JC's Avatar is futuristic science fiction taking place on an alien moon that functions like a giant sentient organism where the plants and animals can plug into it like fiber optic cables. It's "spirituality" is biological. Unlike so many other science fiction planets like Tatooine or Hoth, Pandora is more like earth with many different biomes. Just because various tribes of Na'vi might live near the oceans, forests, deserts, volcanic areas and polar caps, doesn't mean they're connected to a specific "element".

      @tronam@tronam Жыл бұрын
  • I hoped that in sequels story will improve just a bit in the background, but no. We got humanity cartoon evil, enternal life elixir(?xd), whale hunting bad(ye, we knew that century ago) and generic leaving earth coz we broke it plot(CANT FIX IT WITH GODLIKE TECH???), while somewhat belivable superconductor plot was sidelined (funny how audiences bashed it, while this shitshow now doesnt get hated as much). I waited so much for this and felt mostly dissapointment. This movie doesnt deserve venture star design, coz with it, it set unresonably high expectations of being reality lvl belivable...

    @kokosxdm6879@kokosxdm68799 ай бұрын
    • Ouin ouin ouin

      @RaiObey@RaiObey4 ай бұрын
  • I can't tell if this video is ironic or not. During the first minutes I was 99% sure it is. But then I wasn't so sure...

    @habencon4082@habencon4082 Жыл бұрын
  • Eyyy critical drinker watcher

    @medul10alpha31@medul10alpha31 Жыл бұрын
  • Raising the bar? More like lowering it. Way of Water was an overly long overly boring movie with really nice visuals, but sooo many plot holes and inconsistencies.

    @kabeltelevizio@kabeltelevizio Жыл бұрын
    • Lolz mcu kid

      @leisureish@leisureish Жыл бұрын
  • Top gun maverick is better

    @IkeReviews@IkeReviews Жыл бұрын
  • Didn't like it at all. Thank God I was with my GF. We cuddled that night for 3 hours and a half.

    @alexandertye3244@alexandertye3244 Жыл бұрын
    • Lmao

      @medul10alpha31@medul10alpha31 Жыл бұрын
    • 🤣🤣🤣

      @QuantumCosmos2.0@QuantumCosmos2.0 Жыл бұрын
  • 7:00 This explains why you think this movie is good. If you become a competent parent, this isn't even a question. I turned the movie off before the first 10 minutes it was so cringe. I saw the hype about it when it went through cinemas, friends talked it up. I now think less of the world smh

    @willzill538@willzill5386 ай бұрын
  • Avatar 2 is bad. Plain and simple. It's frustrating because it could have been so much better with so little work on plot and characters. And all those people defending the movie saying that they loved it, etc. are oblivious to that. You can have beautiful visuals and great characters and strong plot at the same time. Those are not mutually exclusive.

    @marko6489@marko6489 Жыл бұрын
  • Perhaps it's just me, but I really didn't like it. I'm very much a story focused person, and while I can enjoy a mindless action movie with a visual gimmick (I love Hardcore Henry), I couldn't get past the vehemently anti-human and frankly anti-white messaging. For some reason, Avatar seems to be the ONE story set in the future where there's only white people, and what do you know, they're all cartoonishly evil. Avatar is anything but universal to me, but something that outright hates me. Plus, I happen to be a fairly masculine fellow and thinks people should be able to defend themselves, which means James Cameron hates me as well. I'm just glad I snuck into Avatar after watching Top Gun rather than paying to see it, because I would have asked for my money back. I try, as much as possible, not to make rich people who despise me.

    @foristrothbert568@foristrothbert568 Жыл бұрын
    • Jake Sully is basically the embodiment of paternal testosterone rocking an assault rifle all the way through the movie, so I have no idea what the comment about JC hating your masculinity even means. One of the core themes of the entire story is that you HAVE to fight to the death for your home and the people you care about. It's not a pacifist message at all. Even a whale decides to fight. In a far future science fiction story where most of the characters are 10 foot tall blue aliens, even the primary villains here, what does skin color even mean anyway and why does it matter? It's irrelevant and not meant to be taken literally. The story is expressing two extremes of our own human potential in a science fiction setting. The RDA represent our worst tendencies of thoughtless consumption for profit at the expense of the natural world and the Na'vi represent an idealized spiritual existence that lives in harmony with nature. It's a battle between two fundamental sides of our nature in a fantasy world. That's why it's universally relatable to so many people around the world.

      @tronam@tronam Жыл бұрын
    • @@tronam The things you listed may not matter to you like the color of the antagonists, or the "thoughtless consumption" of the villains, or the idealized representation of the Navi, but they sure matter to the people that made the movie. It's not just a story, it's not even made for you to think about not being wasteful or to cherish your family, the messages are that white people are evil, the military is evil, fighting for "your people" (whether nation or humanity itself) is wrong, and the environment is more important than human life. That's why said messages are sledgehammered home. Let me ask you something. If every single one of the bad guys was black, or middle eastern, or anything other than white, would it give you pause? Would you stop and go, "Wait a minute... This seems strange..." If the roles were reversed with humans and the Navi, do you think it would still play out the same, and the humans would just be "defending their home," or would humanity still be the bad guys because the Navi are just trying to live and their home is dying, and we're just being greedy assholes? As for James Cameron, while doing press for the movie said he removed as many scenes involving guns as he could and whined about "toxic masculinity" like a Gender Studies major. You have to realize that the vast majority of movies are now (and it's debatable if they ever weren't) simply the means of pushing the propaganda of the powerful onto the people. It's why Top Gun Maverick was such a shock to so many - no propaganda. If you're making a movie, and it's likely to make the Davos types happy, then you're probably making propaganda.

      @foristrothbert568@foristrothbert568 Жыл бұрын
    • I don't get your point. Jake Sully the Protagonist of the movie is white. The Botanical Scientist is a white. In a story happening in an Alien Planet about the Colonial Imperialists mindlessly invading the Native Blue Navis why do you get the guilt feeling for being a white person? Come out of that trap bruh!

      @QuantumCosmos2.0@QuantumCosmos2.0 Жыл бұрын
    • @@foristrothbert568 jack sully is white and a good guy norm Spelman white a good guy trudy chachon a white good guys so how is white people evil

      @ANONYMOUS-tg2tq@ANONYMOUS-tg2tq Жыл бұрын
    • @@foristrothbert568 well yes villians race have nothing to do with anything

      @ANONYMOUS-tg2tq@ANONYMOUS-tg2tq Жыл бұрын
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