PROOF Research Tundra Ti Chambered in 7mm PRC www.muleyfreak.com #proofresearch #hunting #muleyfreak #tundrati #proofresearchrifles
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Very nice setup! Can’t wait to see more videos!
@shawnparker804 ай бұрын
I have a few ideas already brewing on some follow up videos to this one! ☝️ 🔥
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
Dream rifle. Pumped you released this video. Beautiful rifle that is worth the money if you ask me. I think the aesthetic is important to point out, but I would also say it’s hard to find reliability sometimes. This is one of those rifles that you’ll never have to doubt the performance of. Congrats. I just finished up my budget build, Begara b14 ridge in 30-06 with razor lht and a sthealthy hunter optic/barrel cover. Now I’m working to save up for a nice rifle build like this later in life.
@bdaug154 ай бұрын
you can build the same rifle for $5k
@2Boutdoors3 ай бұрын
@@2Boutdoors I’m sure you can. Everyone has their own preference of brand and cost.
@bdaug153 ай бұрын
I have the Proof Elevation in 7PRC. Absolutely love the rifle!
@dubeoutdoors38724 ай бұрын
Nice! Where did you purchase that bad boy?
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
Scope choice?
@jklo13133 ай бұрын
#NightForce NX8 4-32x50 F1
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
I shoot the proof MTR in 7mm rem mag and it’s hands down one of my favorite rifles to shoot. I’ve shot lots of hornady factory loads and load a 162eldx and 168 Berger VLD and all of them have grouped well under 3/4moa with the hand loads going 1/2moa and under!
@nicogranzella16063 ай бұрын
Heck Yeah! I'm yet to mess around with the MTR, but I've heard good things about it.
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
Great looking riffle thanks for sharing!
@michaeltubbs24934 ай бұрын
You bet. Thnx for watching!
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
It’s a nice rifle. But it’s way over priced. Almost $8k without optic is insane for that, funny how they can’t even put a triggertech diamond in it for that much.
@Dave-cf2ng4 ай бұрын
When have you ever said that beautiful hand carved, hand painted, hand crafted piece of furniture that looks way amazing and performs way amazing is overpriced? I realize furniture doesn't perform, but you get the drift.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
@@MuleyFreak that’s not the point. The point is that the proof name isn’t worth it either. Some of the best gunsmiths in the country don’t charge that much for a rifle. These rifles are still mass produced, they are not a real custom rifle
@Dave-cf2ng4 ай бұрын
And my point is this...custom rifle builders push whatever barrels they can get quicker than a PROOF barrel so they can hurry and get the gun built and turn cash. Other barrels shoot good enough that they'll put their names behind them. Additionally, some custom rifle builders threw adults sized tantrums about PROOF's prefits and also decided to go a different direction as a result. You know as well as I do that the internet is 100% transparent and there will also be haters.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
@@MuleyFreak proof barrels are not the best on the market. If we are being honest here you didn’t pay for that rifle and proof sent it to you to do a review. If they let you keep it then that’s fine, but proof rifles are still mass produced and not custom. I’ll take a rifle where I can sit down with the gunsmith and have it built to my specs. That’s a custom rifle, not buying it off their website.
@Dave-cf2ng4 ай бұрын
I've been shooting PROOF barrels/rifles for the better part of 10+ years just an FYI. Other manufactures don't even come close to their production and thorough testing processes. Additionally, there's been plenty of other barrels companies approach us that would throw arguably more money at us to shoot their stuff, but we shoot PROOF because we believe in it and we support good companies and good people. We don't chase money and we certainly don't digest hate and or jealousy.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
What I found with my ultralight, to get real tight groups, is to put a little natural down pressure on some forward part of the scope.. Just preloading the pod isn't enough.. I use a good break but, by putting my non-trigger finger hand on top of scope or out in front on the stock helps tighten the groups.. I do so with the intention to have a consistent pressure and tension.. 1000 ways to skin the cat...THe lightweight ones a a bit more jumpy though and muzzle flip control/consistency can be a high yield area to focus.. Nice riffle, brother!
@drostly32204 ай бұрын
It’s funny that you mention this because I actually thought about doing this with it my next time out at the range! I don’t have a brake for it yet, but I plan on getting on very 🔜 not sure if you’re new to the channel or not, but you’re very welcome here! Thanks for weighing in! 💪🆒
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
What scope u run ?
@jklo13133 ай бұрын
#NightForce NX8 4-32x50 F1
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
@@MuleyFreak Light rifle.. Heavy scope.. That top heavy feel... Not for me..
@drostly32203 ай бұрын
sick stuff
@DirtyCombos4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@erikvanwoerkom18964 ай бұрын
She’s dirty for sure! Thnx for watching!
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
Badass🤘🏻
@jasonrad93324 ай бұрын
*_Thanks for watching, Jason!_*
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
Thanks, J!
@erikvanwoerkom18964 ай бұрын
Man that’s bout perfect in my eyes…I got the waypoint prc and 4x32nx8 one I’ve looked hard at but been leanin towards the 22x lht to keep with the LW theme…mines the 24” carbon bsf barrel and I’ve handloaded for a yr with awsome results usin my old simmons 14x me and mom run down in wee hrs before opening day around 99…couldn’t find long tube fit my 700 7mag dad got me as his present till that 1 display model and itll hold zero long as you don’t bump it…lol..shit some unbelievable groups with $100 scope and bust 20oz at 250yrds shootin 95gr v max@3666fps…💥
@charlesmullins32384 ай бұрын
LOL. Well, I would say that NX8 is a major upgrade from that $100 scope!
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
@@MuleyFreak zeco 840 and s&b pm2 ones I want but you know that old sayin….want in 1 hand….👊🏻
@charlesmullins32384 ай бұрын
LOL. I'll have to check it out.
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
@@MuleyFreak I know you know what a Schmidt&bender pm2 is…
@charlesmullins32383 ай бұрын
Yessir! I don't have personal experience with them, but I've heard good things.
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
This is an dream rifle but would put me in the poor house man 😂😂😂 I’m just gonna get a Savage Ultralight and convince myself that it’s a proof rifle 😭😭
@wyattgable132 ай бұрын
LOL. With enough discipline you can save! ;)
@MuleyFreak2 ай бұрын
2020 waypoint or Redline, just over 2k. Love mine. Seven pounds with scope. If they would make one in 7mm-08, I'd buy another.
@randallwhite90154 ай бұрын
How's she group?
@erikvanwoerkom18964 ай бұрын
Waypoint or redline? Never heard of it.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
@@MuleyFreakSpringfield
@MontanaWillie444 ай бұрын
I'll have to check it out.
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
The question I have, is it worth the coin.? When I can source an action, stock and barrel and have a gunsmith assemble the pieces. This is Serious question I priced out a rifle, With a proof barrel, a defiance action and AG stock and it was $3700 roughly. I believe the performance would be around the same caliber. I guess it’s a matter of weight and wages. Erik do your custom builds shoot just as good as the proof rifle ?
@Ru-in4 ай бұрын
$3700 seems a little on the cheap side for those components TBH, but I guess it depends on what gun smith is putting it together for you! Your not wrong when you say "weights" and "wages". You'll notice in the video where I say when you have something lightweight your trading "backpackability" for some "shootability", but I will say for how lightweight this rifle is it shoots lights out, but comparing my custom builds to this ultralight custom rifle is different because those guns are 3-4 pounds heavier than this rifle. Do they shoot excellent? Yes! Does this shoot excellent? Yes! Which one would I rather pack on a sheep hunt? Def this one!
@erikvanwoerkom18964 ай бұрын
My only question is. Would you pick this over a TS custom? I literally just got my order together for TS on the fact that you guys speak so highly of them!
@justinmcelheny24454 ай бұрын
It depends on the hunt quite honestly. Both are amazing, but if I had to take an ultralight mangum rifle for a sheep hunt I would take the Tundra Ti.
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
Damn nice rifle there matey 👍 champion
@bradleytyrrell44174 ай бұрын
Thank you, sir! It’s an awesome piece!
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
Getting the ruger gen 2 in 7PRC little more affordable for me but love this video and rifle.
@ridgelinehunting3 ай бұрын
Right on! Let us know how you like it.
@erikvanwoerkom18963 ай бұрын
It will be out in the next couple months so I’ll let you all know.
@ridgelinehunting3 ай бұрын
👍👍
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
That’s a nice screensaver you have there!
@tylerokamura33424 ай бұрын
I've gotta highlight the real ones what can I say! "Burn Bucks" for the win!
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
You and Aaron are my heros!
@erikvanwoerkom18964 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
For $8,000 it better come with a guided elk hunt in Arizona 😐
@Westerner_4 ай бұрын
Lots of other more affordable options from PROOF too. Just sayin'....
@erikvanwoerkom18964 ай бұрын
Arizona elk hunts aren't 8K either lol
@erikvanwoerkom18964 ай бұрын
LMK when you find an 8K AZ elk tag 🏷️
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
Yes please!
@justindownes75784 ай бұрын
Tundra Ti feels amazing in the hand, homie. That adjustable is straight fire 🔥 too.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
I'm a a huge fan of installing a rail using a atlas bipod. I am currently building a lightweight rifle... will a bipod hurt the stock on that type of lightweight build. In the field should I just use my pack as a rest or install a rail. What r your thoughts
@robertkinservik40434 ай бұрын
I'm a huge fan of a rail and a partial fan of the atlas. I've used it for a lot of years, but I don't like the ease of use when you're proned out like I do say the Magpul 1911. As far as the bipod hurting that pretty stock I will have to check. I can't imagine it doing so. I would say shooting off a backpack isn't as accurate but it can be faster and at short distances and where time is a factor it might be better.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
It's an ultra light sweet shooting rig!
@erikvanwoerkom18964 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
Jumping like crazy i have a can on both my 7prc..s.. Feels like 223 recoil. Getting .35 groups. How clear is the glass on.that nf ..
@jamessammann91836 күн бұрын
KGM on it now. 🔥
@MuleyFreakКүн бұрын
Hey Erik I’ve never had a titanium action. Are they as sticky as some people whine about? What are your thoughts between them and a steel action?
@kurtlarsen2792 ай бұрын
Not really sticky, just not butter 🧈 like some steels actions. They’re both nice. In the moment I don’t think about it.
@MuleyFreak2 ай бұрын
Does a heavier rifle shoot better simply from a recoil perspective or is there more to it?
@AusHunts4 ай бұрын
It’s more steady and bucks recoil better, yes.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
A little easier to handle, but sucks to carry in the backcountry. #tradeoffs
@erikvanwoerkom18963 ай бұрын
So out of all the 7mm’s you have been making videos on which one is your favorite and why?
@edstettin67993 ай бұрын
Man, I love that TS for more long distance stuff, but I love this one for how lightweight it is. It would just depend on the application, really. Those two 7MMs are my favorite though.
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
Nice
@edstettin67993 ай бұрын
Video coming soon on 7 PRC vs 7 PRC
@MuleyFreak2 ай бұрын
Look forward to it.
@edstettin67992 ай бұрын
Titanium is not as strong as steel unless you are referring to it's strength to weight ratio.
@travishimself19734 ай бұрын
Strength to weight, yes, as we are speaking to ultralight components.
@erikvanwoerkom18964 ай бұрын
Iv got a 6.5 prc a 300 prc and will have a 7prc real soon im just gonna build it off a tikka with a 20" barrel and launch 175-180 grain bergers. Whole rifle with scope and bipod should be like 7.7 pounds. All in
@stephenferguson63634 ай бұрын
I'd say excellent choice in calibers, sir! The 6.5 PRC and 300 PRC are also some of our favorites! What is the purpose behind the rifle going to be for? Whitetail short range? Or Western big game?
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
@@MuleyFreak western big game mainly mnt goat and elk. Moose.
@stephenferguson63633 ай бұрын
Next question: backpack hunting or truck hunting?
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
@@MuleyFreak back pak I run mystery ranch
@stephenferguson63633 ай бұрын
@MuleyFreak my primary game is moose elk and mountain goat I'm from north eastern bc
@stephenferguson63633 ай бұрын
That is a heavy gun.
@Strutingeagle4 ай бұрын
If you’re comparing it to a ruger 10/22 lol
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
@@MuleyFreakSeekins Havak Element? 1 lb lighter. 5k less $
@hereare2swords8663 ай бұрын
Never heard of it...
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
No disputing that's one gorgeous rifle, but........................ I have several Tikka T3x lite and ultra lite rifles that shoot half moa or better. It seems that I just can't walk into a Gunshop and leave without another Tikka. Are they as nicely finished as a Proof? No. Can they shoot as accurately as a Proof? Yes! Thanks for another great video.
@audieladd24764 ай бұрын
I also run Tikkas and am confounded by all these full carbon titanium rifles that cost an arm and leg. A factory superlite in 7 rem mag is 6.1 lbs, add some lightweight talley direct mount rings that saves pic rails as well. Sub MOA guaranteed for $1000 USD. Unless I’m missing something?
@tristankennedy8514 ай бұрын
Haha. There’s nothing wrong with supporting our 2A rights in the form of a Tikka - especially if they shoot well for you and you like them! This rifle just has different features than a Tikka, first starters, that adjustable. (Maybe Tikka has one? iDK) lots of times these rifles are built for specific bullets and speeds too. Something you don’t necessarily do when you walk into a sporting goods store with that same intention. Thanks for the comment!! Appreciate guys like you on our channel!
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
What height rings?
@Brett.smelserАй бұрын
Medium
@MuleyFreakАй бұрын
Beautiful rifle, you get an A+ for a mil scope most hunters have not caught onto the advantage of it. I would still put on a Arca rail, makes it somewhat more balance to shoot off a tripod.
@thomasteac89194 ай бұрын
Erik has been shooting MIL scopes for 5-6 years and swears by it for several reasons! (Sounds like a future video). Erik mentioned at the end of the video he fully plans on installing a rail on the end to gain that cant adjustability back to his set up._
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
MIL is where it's at. Thanks for watching!
@erikvanwoerkom18964 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
What’s the gun bench you have?
@scottlussier62323 ай бұрын
Custom built one! :)
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
Nice rifle for sure. But it’s way way over priced and a custom rifle can be had for half or little less than half that price
@SamuelBerryhill4 ай бұрын
No one ever said you couldn’t build a custom rifle for less, but buying a production stock and putting it together with other components isn’t necessarily the same level of custom.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
Nice rifle! I looked hard at Proof Elevation MTR rifles a while back before building my own. How does this one compare to your TS Custom Rifles?
@briano3374 ай бұрын
Right on! I hear those MTR are solid. It’s just different. It’s lighter - for fine details, but my other rifles shoot great. I’ll do a grouping video on this rifle here soon.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
I mean if you have the funds go for it, but IMO you can build an extreme tack driver for less money than that 🤷🏽♂️
@bryangarcia24293 ай бұрын
Can't say I don't agree with you!
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
@@MuleyFreak good video man 🤙🏽 was hoping to see the groups lol
@bryangarcia24293 ай бұрын
I'll do another video with groups here soon!
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
20 inch Browning Xbolt 7PRC Banish BackCountry 1x10 LVPO 🔥🇺🇸🥃
@liverpool63803 ай бұрын
Sounds solid.
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
Maybe some i reckon. I am not hurting by any means and can easily purchase like this. But it has to make sense. I need a performance gain from an inflated investment. Im not seeing that here. I can shoot all day next to this rifle for less than $4500 and the case. And it will be lighter than that one. I mean you still have a 9 lb rifle. Awesome equipment for sure, but you can get there for less than half the price.
@knuckledragger24124 ай бұрын
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@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
Been looking at a fierce rifle. Pricey but not as much.
@c.r.rg95294 ай бұрын
Fierce makes a good rifle too. Ferrari vs Corvette.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
Been looking at a fierce instead
@c.r.rg95294 ай бұрын
👍
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
Precision armament brake would almost keep u on glass
@timothyhelf61444 ай бұрын
Highly reccomend?
@erikvanwoerkom18964 ай бұрын
I’ve heard good things about that and the salmon river solutions stuff
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
Nice to see your sister let you borrow her hearing protection
@eze21904 ай бұрын
They are my daughters, actually. Do you have something against pink?
@erikvanwoerkom18964 ай бұрын
@@erikvanwoerkom1896 naw man. Just having fun. Happy new year!!!!!
@eze21904 ай бұрын
@@eze2190 Ha ha. I was actually waiting for someone to comment on these! Happy New Year to you as well, brother!
@erikvanwoerkom18964 ай бұрын
LOL. Surprised it took someone this long to make a comment on those pink walker game ears.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
Nice Boomstick, get prone….you’ll never hunt off a bench! Also, you’re going to suppress that rifle, why not sight it in with your can? Saves time, barrel life, etc 😉
@WaPiTiChAsEr4 ай бұрын
Thanks, bro! As far as your prone comment goes when lying prone I would still be hunting/shooting with this bipod. Additionally, when lying prone I would be shooting with the exact same rear bag as well. The only difference is by feet being sprawled out which doesn't always happen when hunting in the field either (positions get weird sometimes). Now if I were shooting out of a lead sled I would let you roast me in the comments lol. As far as barrel life goes, I'm not worried about the 15 rounds I shot in the video affecting my barrel life! :)
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
I didn't want to lay in the snow ha ha
@erikvanwoerkom18964 ай бұрын
@@MuleyFreak shooting prone mitigates recoil, having all of your body weight behind the rifle while shooting any rifle…let alone an “ultra-lite” rifle increases accuracy. Notice you did not display your groupings? Proof is always in the pudding & I’m not sold on the rifle if it doesn’t hold the advertised accuracy guaranteed by the manufacturer. The sponsor most likely wants your viewers & its customers to see that their product shoots accurately like the test target shows. Didn’t want to lay in the snow, C’mon man! Lay a piece of cardboard & a shooting mat down to resolve that issue!?!?! As a backcountry hunter, shooting at game while laying in the snow is inevitable. Not trying to blow up your comment section, only trying to help you. If I offended you, that’s your problem not mine. Stay humble, none of us are perfect & or know it all. 😎🤙
@WaPiTiChAsEr4 ай бұрын
Of course it does. The more meat behind the weapon the less recoil. Always appreciate folks offering constructive feedback and opinions - appreciate guys like you on the channel. Happy New Year!
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
Put a break on that rifle! Screw that prc recoil! 😂
@peytonwyly89194 ай бұрын
We will do a video on brake vs suppressor coming up!
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
Brake and or suppressor coming soon.
@erikvanwoerkom18964 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
Heavy scope for a lightweight build
@nj-bz8pv4 ай бұрын
Not really if you think about it - especially for a magnum caliber. Adds some much needed weight in my opinion.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
@@MuleyFreak just got a fierce rival in .300 prc and wondering if I need a heavier scope to take down the snappiness.I already have the added weight of a can to help
@nj-bz8pv4 ай бұрын
What scope are you running on top of the Fierce .300 PRC - I'm curious. Glad to hear the weight of the cans is helping!
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
@@MuleyFreak I was looking to upgrade my scope to either Vx6 3-18x50 which is around 21 ounces or the nx8 2.5-20x50 coming in around 29 oz
@nj-bz8pv4 ай бұрын
Both great options. I own both! I'd say more durability in the NX8.
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
Carbon fiber is an insulator. Why are you saying it cools faster than steel?
@gregjackson79993 ай бұрын
Thermal conductivity/diffusivity is altered by the orientation of the wrap and resin used. #technique
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
Saw this video and started googling where to buy and I was expecting at the least a 5k rifle but being 8k is way out my range any 2-5k will perform the same or even better. I would rather take a custom built tikka over this for that price.
@rdgsupafli4 ай бұрын
This rifle is a Ferrari. Lots of corvettes out there that run just fine too.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
Ya but a corvette will do just fine and the Camaro ss 1le is a track monster that can beat a Ferrari
@rdgsupafli4 ай бұрын
Yup, Vetter and Camaro fair just fine. It's a matter of taste and budget.
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
@@MuleyFreak yes just not in my budget if I had the extra money I’d probably buy it
@rdgsupafli3 ай бұрын
Copy that. Thanks for watching and glad to have you on our channel.
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
Nice production and content. But It's a bit pricey.
@user-md7iq3fy5k4 ай бұрын
It’s a Ferrari.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
Just bought a 7mmprc but not a fan of Hornady ammo on game animals the eldx is nothing more than a v- max plus the 7prc unless u hand load it isn't close to the 3,000 fps they list on eldx more like 2,800 in a 24 inch barrel im waiting on someone to prove me wrong but they cannot
@JosephWilhoit-ef6nl4 ай бұрын
All things Hornady have been rock solid for us - especially that ELD-X bullet. Always mushroomed perfectly on the opposite side shoulder.
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
Additionally, V-max are killer on coyotes! :)
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
@MuleyFreak do not care for them just a personal opinion. But also still no answers on why Hornady is claiming 3,000 fps it isn't happening 28 to 2850 is all u getting and that is with a 24 inch barrel. Sounds like false advertising to me
@JosephWilhoit-ef6nl3 ай бұрын
Everybody's barrel is a bit different. Slow barrel perhaps?
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
yeah, but USD 7999.- That's a little hefty. And when I say a little I mean very. Gonna pass on this one.
@mysterioanonymous32064 ай бұрын
It’s the Ferrari of ultralight long range hunting and naturally, it comes with a price tag.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
8k and that stock still has traditional sling studs. I would rather buy 4 Seekins Precision PH2 rifles with 8k.
@ArpexOfficial4 ай бұрын
Easy to install a rail.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
My opinion you can build a custom for 1/2 that price so why …
@blueballz914 ай бұрын
Can’t build a custom stock though I will say…and they’re not really custom paint jobs either.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
Sweet rifle. More than my budget will allow and Maybe I'm just an old fart but I'm not sold on carbon fiber barrels.
@travisbell90144 ай бұрын
What part of carbon fibers barrels aren’t you sold on?
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
Lol. My .308 weighs 8.8 lbs with scope and ammo. I have less than 2 g's with everything. I can punch the center all day at 300 yards. Im.never shooting further than that, I will close the distance. Those higher velocity calibers shoot the barrel out much faster as well but not really a concern on a hunting rifle. But that build is over $10,000, unless a company is giving a person these items so they can promote it on a video or something it just doesn't make sense. Beautiful set up though i will say that.
@knuckledragger24124 ай бұрын
From the sounds of it (300 yards) your rifle serves likely a much different purpose than this rifle will serve. We are comparing a Ferrari to a Mustang and their applications like your rifle and my rifle are completely different. I'm not saying you need to spend 10Gs to get a rifle that shoots either. I'm just saying they are completely different builds, tastes, and applications.
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
What scope are you using and how far out have you been on targets?
@jklo13133 ай бұрын
Using the #NightForce NX8 4-32x50 F1. Shot steel out to 720 yards.
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
Funny how you go ultra lightweight but need a can/suppressor to counteract the lifting because the rifle cannot handle a heavy calibre.
@bryemarshall4 ай бұрын
Rifle can handle it fine, but a lot of folks prefer a can even with a mid-weight and even hevaier builds. #hearingprotectionmatters
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
HOLY SMOKES, $7,700 MSRP
@smicksmookety3 ай бұрын
Ferrari's aren't cheap.
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
@@MuleyFreak I'm just gonna go straight to a barret .50 at that point
@smicksmookety3 ай бұрын
@@smicksmookety .50 cal would be excellent for a 200 lb deer lolol
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
Buy once. Cry once.
@erikvanwoerkom18963 ай бұрын
@@erikvanwoerkom1896 I'm pretty sure that doesn't apply to ferraris and 8K rifles, except on the fact that if you bought this you wouldn't be able to afford ever buying again.
@smicksmookety3 ай бұрын
Love the rifle hate the cartridge
@SpudOutdoors4 ай бұрын
No love for the 7 PRC!?
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
@@MuleyFreak not when I run a 195gn Berger at 2912 out of the 7 mag 26” and a 175 Berger at 2975 out of a 7 mag 22”. 7 PRC was never needed. Especially with long mag fast twist factory options in 7 mag. You can even beat those speeds with a custom throat. 7 mag as a .115 freebore as its saami chamber. 7 mag was way beyond its time. It’s like they knew what the future of the long heavy bullets would become.
@SpudOutdoors4 ай бұрын
@@SpudOutdoorsyes, but, for factory options and factory ammo the 7 MM doesn’t outrun the 7PRC.
@erikvanwoerkom18964 ай бұрын
@@erikvanwoerkom1896 you can buy factory ammo with 195 and 180 and 175 for 7 mag. You can’t beat the 7 mag on factory offerings or ammo offerings. Or brass or materials to reload. Plus with the shorter freebore you can run more bullets than the 7 PRC. No offense but that round is a joke. Most and I mean most people shouldn’t hunt past 600 yards and 30-06, 7 mag both can smash an elk at those distances with decent loads but their full potential is much further. Not to mention way better bullets than hornady offers. A person shooting over 600 yards on an animal should not be using factory ammo to begin with. They should be reloading and getting the max accuracy and low SDs and low ES. The only thing it is going to do is force manufacturers to hurt the 7 mag sales. Which is just ridiculous for all the 7 mag users which is a lot of hunters. I personally run 2 7 mags. My buddy runs 3. Most people I know use 7 mags. The avg hunter hunts 300 yards and in. I am all for new cartridges when it’s needed. But didn’t care for the 300 PRC after I saw what a 300 win mag can do with a 245 EOL over 2800 fps with less powder than PRC. Now 6.5 PRC I like. We did not have a well established 6.5 magnum. Why haven’t they made a 25 PRC. Great caliber.
@SpudOutdoors4 ай бұрын
I agree and disagree with you. The round is incredible. (disagree part.) Most folks shouldn't shoot past 600 yards (Agree part). Factory ammo past 600 yards from a trained individual is completely and totally acceptable. Not everyone has the time or means to reload and thankfully so because factory options these days are incredible. That said, I love the 7MM as well. It's a great options!
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
I’d be afraid of that thing kicking like a mule in 7prc
@bp80234 ай бұрын
It def has recoil, but a brake and or suppressor should buck that some.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
I'll let you know how it shoots prone with a brake and or suppressor.
@erikvanwoerkom18963 ай бұрын
Why couldn’t you just show some groups now 🤷♂️
@robertoaragon15064 ай бұрын
Another video coming on grouping.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
My Weatherby backcountry 2.0 carbon in 30-378 is 1.5lbs lighter and half the cost. Shoots under half inch groups in a superior cartridges with manageable recoil. Nothing shows me that rifle is worth $7,800.
@Alex-uz7wd4 ай бұрын
We are big fans of Adam Weatherby, but not necessarily the free bore of those high velocity calibers, unfortunately! The ergonomics and materials on the stock alone are of the cost of the Weatherby rifle. Custom hand finished stuff isn't cheap!
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
You won't talk me into a Weatherby, but I respect the heck out of those guys!
@erikvanwoerkom18964 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t really call a 9.5lbs rifle ultra light weight. Ultra light gets thrown around way too much. Many manufacturers have sub 6 or even sub 5 lbs rifles now. Putting a 2+ lbs scope on there also defeats the purpose of the set up. Looks like a great rifle but far from ultra light weight.
@iancavanaugh98984 ай бұрын
This isn't 9.5 pounds - did you mean with a bipod?
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
That is no ultra light weight. Howa has a rifle that 4.5. Then if your wanting the 7prc Weatherby back country is 4.7 to 5.6 for less than half the price.
@alan215254 ай бұрын
I think there’s “ultralight” then there’s “stupid light”. 4.6 lb in a Weatherby caliber would fit under that category.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
Honestly the weight of that rifle is what is considered normal/average weight. Because 99% of rifle made are 6 to 7.5 pounds.
@alan215254 ай бұрын
Additionally, those factory rifles were engineered to shoot 300 yards too.
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
Great rifle but that being said I am a hunter reloader and gun collector 60+ years and have a couple hundred rifles built over the years and have owned most of the high end custom guns and have found you can get a Fierce rifle that will shoot as good if not better then the Proof be as light for about $3,000. I know because I bought one for each of my 3 boys and they are as good as the custom builds I have owned for twice the amount! That’s not an Ultra light rifle! The new Howa is an ultra light at 4-5 pounds. Most people can’t afford to spend that kind of money on a rifle even if it is nice but at the end of the day can you justify that price? No! My ultra lights customs are half the price and outshoot that gun! Still a great rifle but would you buy if if you had to pay full price for it?
@edwardabrams49724 ай бұрын
Fierce makes a good rifle! No disputing that! Their rifles also shoot really well too, but again, it's like comparing apples to oranges. Fierce isn't on the same level as far as craftsman ship goes IMHO. And I'll say this again - they make a solid product. It's just not the same caliber. It's like comparing a Ferrari vs a Corvette. Both are aweomse, but there's just a lot more detail in one vs the other.
@erikvanwoerkom18964 ай бұрын
What @erikvanwoerkom1896 said
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
That’s interesting because I have heard nothing but horrible for Fierce. I know someone who theirs shot like 3.5” groups. Now Christensen are the ones I really question mark…. Have seen nothing but bad with them.
@nateskate114 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
These rifles don't hold a candle to my Ts Customs rifle.
@cF-sp2ok4 ай бұрын
Comparing apples to oranges, but TS makes a good rifle for sure. We own quite a few TS rifles as well.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
@@MuleyFreak Hey MF, I agree with you that comparing a fine custom rifle such as a TS customs rifle to the proof Tundra Ti is apples to oranges. However, not in the way you think it is. The Proof rifle is inferior in every way, except perhaps weight. Its $7300 price tag does not boast any impressive features. Your inability to customize the rifle makes it a high end low value off the shelf factory rifle. You honestly should have probably bought a gunwerks, and that is not something I can say I have ever recommended. Now, let’s get into the details. First this is a $7300 rifle WTF MF. (I know you got it free) Second, titanium does boast light weight performance, however, there are many premium action companies who won’t build on titanium due to its inability to handle higher pressures like its steel counter part with lightening cuts. Third, the fact it comes with swivel studs is laughable, what high end modern rifle lacks picatinny or arca of any kind? Fourth, carbon barrels are great for saving weight but I disagree that proof is the gold standard for any level of accuracy, check out any precision rifle related event. Fifth, you have a $7300 rifle with no muzzle device included. At this price point, I don’t see how you could recommend this rifle to anyone- it’s a fine rifle but not great. There are so many capable custom gunsmiths who could make a vastly superior rifle to a customer’s exacting specifications that would far exceed the proof rifle across the board with a savings north of $1500, muzzle break included and a bipod mounting system from this century. You are a tremendous hunter- however, you are doing a major disservice to your loyal fan base by recommending a clearly inferior product.
@davidandre8864 ай бұрын
@@MuleyFreak I see. Can you explain to me how this is a apples to oranges comparison? Thank you.
@cF-sp2ok4 ай бұрын
David, Erik here. How are you, brother? First off, I own more TS Customs rifle than probably Travis himself lol. Travis makes an incredible product, but as far as the apples and oranges comparison it's pretty simple. Travis doesn't make his own barrels, bottom metals, or actions currently. (PROOF doesn't make actions either). He started having some stocks made and fine stocks they are. With that said, there's my apples and comparing oranges comparison. Next item of business, I'm not recommending this rifle to all our fan base as it doesn't fit everybody's wants, needs, and budgets. With that said, imagine having your own custom rifle where you make your own barrels and stocks in house! Pretty incredible, really. Lastly, I wish it had an arca and or break too, but the brake is an easy fix and a smith can add an arca without much effort. Thanks for the compliment on my hunting abilities! Happy New Year!
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
@@MuleyFreakI’m doing well! Thanks for taking the time to make a thoughtful response. In the sense that Proof builds much of the rifle in house, I agree it is apples and oranges, I guess to me I more care about performance, and performance to value matrix. I have owned many proof barrels, and they have a definite performance edge over factory and semi custom options. Gunwerks has taken it up another notch or in house manufacturing but I don’t think they offer a good value either. Have a good one
@davidandre8863 ай бұрын
Too rich for my blood.
@keithsargent69634 ай бұрын
This rifle isn’t for everybody; however, they have rifles for other budgets.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
8gs🤢
@timothyhelf61444 ай бұрын
Buy once. Cry once. Hand crafted stuff ain’t cheap.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
Can't put a price on this kind of craftsmanship, honestly. I get it's more than most are willing to pay, but there's guns for those guys too! :)
@erikvanwoerkom18964 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
22 inch is kinda pointless for a magnum action buddy has a rifle chambered in this cartridge with 24 inch barrel he gets 100 fps less than the box for 175 grain
@JohnWest-yc9ol4 ай бұрын
How is it pointless? It’s an ultralight long range rifle. Its purpose is for extreme mountain hunts where shots are 500+ and ounces are counted.
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
@@MuleyFreak not talking about weight might as well go with a 6.5 prc or some other short action mag IMO if I'm gonna have a magnum at a minimum of 24 inch barrel is my pick but it's just my opinion and what I like.
@JohnWest-yc9ol4 ай бұрын
Personally, I think the 24" is my preferred length.
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
Way overpriced but...just overpriced. Good luck
@EndoftheBlock72244 ай бұрын
Read through the comments…
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
STOCK DESIGN IS TRASH FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN OFF HAND STANDING SHOTS #LOOKINTOIT
@85ZERO174 ай бұрын
Anything other than off hand? 🤔
@MuleyFreak4 ай бұрын
Do explain….
@erikvanwoerkom18964 ай бұрын
Crickets!
@MuleyFreak3 ай бұрын
NO CRICKETS HERE BIG DOG. I SAID LOOK INTO IT, I DIDNT SAY LISTEN HERE. AND A GUY CAN CHOOSE TO EDUCATE HIMSELF OR NOT….YOUR PREROGATIVE JUST SAYING MAYBE BE CLEAR THAT WHAT YOURE DOING HERE IS MARKETING. WHICH IS ALL WELL AND GOOD. BUT DONT DISGUISE IT AS EDUCATIONAL WITH A FEW FACTS ON METAL COMPOSITION. THE STOCK IS NOT OPTIMAL FOR THE PURPOSE. YOU EVEN SPEAK TO IT….THE WAY IT IS DESIGNED AND THE WAY YOU PLAN ON EMPLOYING IT…. NOT TRYING TO BE A DIK HERE, JUST SAYING THAT THERE IS ALOT LOT MORE VALUE IN MAYBE HELPING PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY MAY POSSIBLY WANT IN A TOOL FOR AN INTENDED USE… AS OPPOSED TO TELLING THEM ABOUT HOW SHINY THE ONE YOU CHOSE IS. THERE ARE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUES WITH THE THINGS YOURE SHOWING HERE, NOT ALL BAD - BUT IT WILL INFLUENCE SOME PEOPLE AND A LOT OF BAD CAN COME FROM THAT. AGAIN, NOT SHITTY ON YOU OR THE VIDEO, ITS UNDERSTANDABLE THAT YOU NEED TO SUPPORT THE FOLKS AND PRODUCT THAT SUPPORT YOU.
@85ZERO173 ай бұрын
Stop yelling at me though. What's with the all caps? ;)
Very nice setup! Can’t wait to see more videos!
I have a few ideas already brewing on some follow up videos to this one! ☝️ 🔥
Dream rifle. Pumped you released this video. Beautiful rifle that is worth the money if you ask me. I think the aesthetic is important to point out, but I would also say it’s hard to find reliability sometimes. This is one of those rifles that you’ll never have to doubt the performance of. Congrats. I just finished up my budget build, Begara b14 ridge in 30-06 with razor lht and a sthealthy hunter optic/barrel cover. Now I’m working to save up for a nice rifle build like this later in life.
you can build the same rifle for $5k
@@2Boutdoors I’m sure you can. Everyone has their own preference of brand and cost.
I have the Proof Elevation in 7PRC. Absolutely love the rifle!
Nice! Where did you purchase that bad boy?
Scope choice?
#NightForce NX8 4-32x50 F1
I shoot the proof MTR in 7mm rem mag and it’s hands down one of my favorite rifles to shoot. I’ve shot lots of hornady factory loads and load a 162eldx and 168 Berger VLD and all of them have grouped well under 3/4moa with the hand loads going 1/2moa and under!
Heck Yeah! I'm yet to mess around with the MTR, but I've heard good things about it.
Great looking riffle thanks for sharing!
You bet. Thnx for watching!
It’s a nice rifle. But it’s way over priced. Almost $8k without optic is insane for that, funny how they can’t even put a triggertech diamond in it for that much.
When have you ever said that beautiful hand carved, hand painted, hand crafted piece of furniture that looks way amazing and performs way amazing is overpriced? I realize furniture doesn't perform, but you get the drift.
@@MuleyFreak that’s not the point. The point is that the proof name isn’t worth it either. Some of the best gunsmiths in the country don’t charge that much for a rifle. These rifles are still mass produced, they are not a real custom rifle
And my point is this...custom rifle builders push whatever barrels they can get quicker than a PROOF barrel so they can hurry and get the gun built and turn cash. Other barrels shoot good enough that they'll put their names behind them. Additionally, some custom rifle builders threw adults sized tantrums about PROOF's prefits and also decided to go a different direction as a result. You know as well as I do that the internet is 100% transparent and there will also be haters.
@@MuleyFreak proof barrels are not the best on the market. If we are being honest here you didn’t pay for that rifle and proof sent it to you to do a review. If they let you keep it then that’s fine, but proof rifles are still mass produced and not custom. I’ll take a rifle where I can sit down with the gunsmith and have it built to my specs. That’s a custom rifle, not buying it off their website.
I've been shooting PROOF barrels/rifles for the better part of 10+ years just an FYI. Other manufactures don't even come close to their production and thorough testing processes. Additionally, there's been plenty of other barrels companies approach us that would throw arguably more money at us to shoot their stuff, but we shoot PROOF because we believe in it and we support good companies and good people. We don't chase money and we certainly don't digest hate and or jealousy.
What I found with my ultralight, to get real tight groups, is to put a little natural down pressure on some forward part of the scope.. Just preloading the pod isn't enough.. I use a good break but, by putting my non-trigger finger hand on top of scope or out in front on the stock helps tighten the groups.. I do so with the intention to have a consistent pressure and tension.. 1000 ways to skin the cat...THe lightweight ones a a bit more jumpy though and muzzle flip control/consistency can be a high yield area to focus.. Nice riffle, brother!
It’s funny that you mention this because I actually thought about doing this with it my next time out at the range! I don’t have a brake for it yet, but I plan on getting on very 🔜 not sure if you’re new to the channel or not, but you’re very welcome here! Thanks for weighing in! 💪🆒
What scope u run ?
#NightForce NX8 4-32x50 F1
@@MuleyFreak Light rifle.. Heavy scope.. That top heavy feel... Not for me..
sick stuff
Thanks for watching!
She’s dirty for sure! Thnx for watching!
Badass🤘🏻
*_Thanks for watching, Jason!_*
Thanks, J!
Man that’s bout perfect in my eyes…I got the waypoint prc and 4x32nx8 one I’ve looked hard at but been leanin towards the 22x lht to keep with the LW theme…mines the 24” carbon bsf barrel and I’ve handloaded for a yr with awsome results usin my old simmons 14x me and mom run down in wee hrs before opening day around 99…couldn’t find long tube fit my 700 7mag dad got me as his present till that 1 display model and itll hold zero long as you don’t bump it…lol..shit some unbelievable groups with $100 scope and bust 20oz at 250yrds shootin 95gr v max@3666fps…💥
LOL. Well, I would say that NX8 is a major upgrade from that $100 scope!
@@MuleyFreak zeco 840 and s&b pm2 ones I want but you know that old sayin….want in 1 hand….👊🏻
LOL. I'll have to check it out.
@@MuleyFreak I know you know what a Schmidt&bender pm2 is…
Yessir! I don't have personal experience with them, but I've heard good things.
This is an dream rifle but would put me in the poor house man 😂😂😂 I’m just gonna get a Savage Ultralight and convince myself that it’s a proof rifle 😭😭
LOL. With enough discipline you can save! ;)
2020 waypoint or Redline, just over 2k. Love mine. Seven pounds with scope. If they would make one in 7mm-08, I'd buy another.
How's she group?
Waypoint or redline? Never heard of it.
@@MuleyFreakSpringfield
I'll have to check it out.
The question I have, is it worth the coin.? When I can source an action, stock and barrel and have a gunsmith assemble the pieces. This is Serious question I priced out a rifle, With a proof barrel, a defiance action and AG stock and it was $3700 roughly. I believe the performance would be around the same caliber. I guess it’s a matter of weight and wages. Erik do your custom builds shoot just as good as the proof rifle ?
$3700 seems a little on the cheap side for those components TBH, but I guess it depends on what gun smith is putting it together for you! Your not wrong when you say "weights" and "wages". You'll notice in the video where I say when you have something lightweight your trading "backpackability" for some "shootability", but I will say for how lightweight this rifle is it shoots lights out, but comparing my custom builds to this ultralight custom rifle is different because those guns are 3-4 pounds heavier than this rifle. Do they shoot excellent? Yes! Does this shoot excellent? Yes! Which one would I rather pack on a sheep hunt? Def this one!
My only question is. Would you pick this over a TS custom? I literally just got my order together for TS on the fact that you guys speak so highly of them!
It depends on the hunt quite honestly. Both are amazing, but if I had to take an ultralight mangum rifle for a sheep hunt I would take the Tundra Ti.
Damn nice rifle there matey 👍 champion
Thank you, sir! It’s an awesome piece!
Getting the ruger gen 2 in 7PRC little more affordable for me but love this video and rifle.
Right on! Let us know how you like it.
It will be out in the next couple months so I’ll let you all know.
👍👍
That’s a nice screensaver you have there!
I've gotta highlight the real ones what can I say! "Burn Bucks" for the win!
You and Aaron are my heros!
Thanks for watching!
For $8,000 it better come with a guided elk hunt in Arizona 😐
Lots of other more affordable options from PROOF too. Just sayin'....
Arizona elk hunts aren't 8K either lol
LMK when you find an 8K AZ elk tag 🏷️
Yes please!
Tundra Ti feels amazing in the hand, homie. That adjustable is straight fire 🔥 too.
I'm a a huge fan of installing a rail using a atlas bipod. I am currently building a lightweight rifle... will a bipod hurt the stock on that type of lightweight build. In the field should I just use my pack as a rest or install a rail. What r your thoughts
I'm a huge fan of a rail and a partial fan of the atlas. I've used it for a lot of years, but I don't like the ease of use when you're proned out like I do say the Magpul 1911. As far as the bipod hurting that pretty stock I will have to check. I can't imagine it doing so. I would say shooting off a backpack isn't as accurate but it can be faster and at short distances and where time is a factor it might be better.
It's an ultra light sweet shooting rig!
Thanks for watching!
Jumping like crazy i have a can on both my 7prc..s.. Feels like 223 recoil. Getting .35 groups. How clear is the glass on.that nf ..
KGM on it now. 🔥
Hey Erik I’ve never had a titanium action. Are they as sticky as some people whine about? What are your thoughts between them and a steel action?
Not really sticky, just not butter 🧈 like some steels actions. They’re both nice. In the moment I don’t think about it.
Does a heavier rifle shoot better simply from a recoil perspective or is there more to it?
It’s more steady and bucks recoil better, yes.
A little easier to handle, but sucks to carry in the backcountry. #tradeoffs
So out of all the 7mm’s you have been making videos on which one is your favorite and why?
Man, I love that TS for more long distance stuff, but I love this one for how lightweight it is. It would just depend on the application, really. Those two 7MMs are my favorite though.
Nice
Video coming soon on 7 PRC vs 7 PRC
Look forward to it.
Titanium is not as strong as steel unless you are referring to it's strength to weight ratio.
Strength to weight, yes, as we are speaking to ultralight components.
Iv got a 6.5 prc a 300 prc and will have a 7prc real soon im just gonna build it off a tikka with a 20" barrel and launch 175-180 grain bergers. Whole rifle with scope and bipod should be like 7.7 pounds. All in
I'd say excellent choice in calibers, sir! The 6.5 PRC and 300 PRC are also some of our favorites! What is the purpose behind the rifle going to be for? Whitetail short range? Or Western big game?
@@MuleyFreak western big game mainly mnt goat and elk. Moose.
Next question: backpack hunting or truck hunting?
@@MuleyFreak back pak I run mystery ranch
@MuleyFreak my primary game is moose elk and mountain goat I'm from north eastern bc
That is a heavy gun.
If you’re comparing it to a ruger 10/22 lol
@@MuleyFreakSeekins Havak Element? 1 lb lighter. 5k less $
Never heard of it...
No disputing that's one gorgeous rifle, but........................ I have several Tikka T3x lite and ultra lite rifles that shoot half moa or better. It seems that I just can't walk into a Gunshop and leave without another Tikka. Are they as nicely finished as a Proof? No. Can they shoot as accurately as a Proof? Yes! Thanks for another great video.
I also run Tikkas and am confounded by all these full carbon titanium rifles that cost an arm and leg. A factory superlite in 7 rem mag is 6.1 lbs, add some lightweight talley direct mount rings that saves pic rails as well. Sub MOA guaranteed for $1000 USD. Unless I’m missing something?
Haha. There’s nothing wrong with supporting our 2A rights in the form of a Tikka - especially if they shoot well for you and you like them! This rifle just has different features than a Tikka, first starters, that adjustable. (Maybe Tikka has one? iDK) lots of times these rifles are built for specific bullets and speeds too. Something you don’t necessarily do when you walk into a sporting goods store with that same intention. Thanks for the comment!! Appreciate guys like you on our channel!
What height rings?
Medium
Beautiful rifle, you get an A+ for a mil scope most hunters have not caught onto the advantage of it. I would still put on a Arca rail, makes it somewhat more balance to shoot off a tripod.
Erik has been shooting MIL scopes for 5-6 years and swears by it for several reasons! (Sounds like a future video). Erik mentioned at the end of the video he fully plans on installing a rail on the end to gain that cant adjustability back to his set up._
MIL is where it's at. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for watching!
What’s the gun bench you have?
Custom built one! :)
Nice rifle for sure. But it’s way way over priced and a custom rifle can be had for half or little less than half that price
No one ever said you couldn’t build a custom rifle for less, but buying a production stock and putting it together with other components isn’t necessarily the same level of custom.
Nice rifle! I looked hard at Proof Elevation MTR rifles a while back before building my own. How does this one compare to your TS Custom Rifles?
Right on! I hear those MTR are solid. It’s just different. It’s lighter - for fine details, but my other rifles shoot great. I’ll do a grouping video on this rifle here soon.
I mean if you have the funds go for it, but IMO you can build an extreme tack driver for less money than that 🤷🏽♂️
Can't say I don't agree with you!
@@MuleyFreak good video man 🤙🏽 was hoping to see the groups lol
I'll do another video with groups here soon!
20 inch Browning Xbolt 7PRC Banish BackCountry 1x10 LVPO 🔥🇺🇸🥃
Sounds solid.
Maybe some i reckon. I am not hurting by any means and can easily purchase like this. But it has to make sense. I need a performance gain from an inflated investment. Im not seeing that here. I can shoot all day next to this rifle for less than $4500 and the case. And it will be lighter than that one. I mean you still have a 9 lb rifle. Awesome equipment for sure, but you can get there for less than half the price.
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Been looking at a fierce rifle. Pricey but not as much.
Fierce makes a good rifle too. Ferrari vs Corvette.
Been looking at a fierce instead
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Precision armament brake would almost keep u on glass
Highly reccomend?
I’ve heard good things about that and the salmon river solutions stuff
Nice to see your sister let you borrow her hearing protection
They are my daughters, actually. Do you have something against pink?
@@erikvanwoerkom1896 naw man. Just having fun. Happy new year!!!!!
@@eze2190 Ha ha. I was actually waiting for someone to comment on these! Happy New Year to you as well, brother!
LOL. Surprised it took someone this long to make a comment on those pink walker game ears.
Nice Boomstick, get prone….you’ll never hunt off a bench! Also, you’re going to suppress that rifle, why not sight it in with your can? Saves time, barrel life, etc 😉
Thanks, bro! As far as your prone comment goes when lying prone I would still be hunting/shooting with this bipod. Additionally, when lying prone I would be shooting with the exact same rear bag as well. The only difference is by feet being sprawled out which doesn't always happen when hunting in the field either (positions get weird sometimes). Now if I were shooting out of a lead sled I would let you roast me in the comments lol. As far as barrel life goes, I'm not worried about the 15 rounds I shot in the video affecting my barrel life! :)
I didn't want to lay in the snow ha ha
@@MuleyFreak shooting prone mitigates recoil, having all of your body weight behind the rifle while shooting any rifle…let alone an “ultra-lite” rifle increases accuracy. Notice you did not display your groupings? Proof is always in the pudding & I’m not sold on the rifle if it doesn’t hold the advertised accuracy guaranteed by the manufacturer. The sponsor most likely wants your viewers & its customers to see that their product shoots accurately like the test target shows. Didn’t want to lay in the snow, C’mon man! Lay a piece of cardboard & a shooting mat down to resolve that issue!?!?! As a backcountry hunter, shooting at game while laying in the snow is inevitable. Not trying to blow up your comment section, only trying to help you. If I offended you, that’s your problem not mine. Stay humble, none of us are perfect & or know it all. 😎🤙
Of course it does. The more meat behind the weapon the less recoil. Always appreciate folks offering constructive feedback and opinions - appreciate guys like you on the channel. Happy New Year!
Put a break on that rifle! Screw that prc recoil! 😂
We will do a video on brake vs suppressor coming up!
Brake and or suppressor coming soon.
Thanks for watching!
Heavy scope for a lightweight build
Not really if you think about it - especially for a magnum caliber. Adds some much needed weight in my opinion.
@@MuleyFreak just got a fierce rival in .300 prc and wondering if I need a heavier scope to take down the snappiness.I already have the added weight of a can to help
What scope are you running on top of the Fierce .300 PRC - I'm curious. Glad to hear the weight of the cans is helping!
@@MuleyFreak I was looking to upgrade my scope to either Vx6 3-18x50 which is around 21 ounces or the nx8 2.5-20x50 coming in around 29 oz
Both great options. I own both! I'd say more durability in the NX8.
Carbon fiber is an insulator. Why are you saying it cools faster than steel?
Thermal conductivity/diffusivity is altered by the orientation of the wrap and resin used. #technique
Saw this video and started googling where to buy and I was expecting at the least a 5k rifle but being 8k is way out my range any 2-5k will perform the same or even better. I would rather take a custom built tikka over this for that price.
This rifle is a Ferrari. Lots of corvettes out there that run just fine too.
Ya but a corvette will do just fine and the Camaro ss 1le is a track monster that can beat a Ferrari
Yup, Vetter and Camaro fair just fine. It's a matter of taste and budget.
@@MuleyFreak yes just not in my budget if I had the extra money I’d probably buy it
Copy that. Thanks for watching and glad to have you on our channel.
Nice production and content. But It's a bit pricey.
It’s a Ferrari.
Just bought a 7mmprc but not a fan of Hornady ammo on game animals the eldx is nothing more than a v- max plus the 7prc unless u hand load it isn't close to the 3,000 fps they list on eldx more like 2,800 in a 24 inch barrel im waiting on someone to prove me wrong but they cannot
All things Hornady have been rock solid for us - especially that ELD-X bullet. Always mushroomed perfectly on the opposite side shoulder.
Additionally, V-max are killer on coyotes! :)
@MuleyFreak do not care for them just a personal opinion. But also still no answers on why Hornady is claiming 3,000 fps it isn't happening 28 to 2850 is all u getting and that is with a 24 inch barrel. Sounds like false advertising to me
Everybody's barrel is a bit different. Slow barrel perhaps?
yeah, but USD 7999.- That's a little hefty. And when I say a little I mean very. Gonna pass on this one.
It’s the Ferrari of ultralight long range hunting and naturally, it comes with a price tag.
8k and that stock still has traditional sling studs. I would rather buy 4 Seekins Precision PH2 rifles with 8k.
Easy to install a rail.
My opinion you can build a custom for 1/2 that price so why …
Can’t build a custom stock though I will say…and they’re not really custom paint jobs either.
Sweet rifle. More than my budget will allow and Maybe I'm just an old fart but I'm not sold on carbon fiber barrels.
What part of carbon fibers barrels aren’t you sold on?
Lol. My .308 weighs 8.8 lbs with scope and ammo. I have less than 2 g's with everything. I can punch the center all day at 300 yards. Im.never shooting further than that, I will close the distance. Those higher velocity calibers shoot the barrel out much faster as well but not really a concern on a hunting rifle. But that build is over $10,000, unless a company is giving a person these items so they can promote it on a video or something it just doesn't make sense. Beautiful set up though i will say that.
From the sounds of it (300 yards) your rifle serves likely a much different purpose than this rifle will serve. We are comparing a Ferrari to a Mustang and their applications like your rifle and my rifle are completely different. I'm not saying you need to spend 10Gs to get a rifle that shoots either. I'm just saying they are completely different builds, tastes, and applications.
What scope are you using and how far out have you been on targets?
Using the #NightForce NX8 4-32x50 F1. Shot steel out to 720 yards.
Funny how you go ultra lightweight but need a can/suppressor to counteract the lifting because the rifle cannot handle a heavy calibre.
Rifle can handle it fine, but a lot of folks prefer a can even with a mid-weight and even hevaier builds. #hearingprotectionmatters
HOLY SMOKES, $7,700 MSRP
Ferrari's aren't cheap.
@@MuleyFreak I'm just gonna go straight to a barret .50 at that point
@@smicksmookety .50 cal would be excellent for a 200 lb deer lolol
Buy once. Cry once.
@@erikvanwoerkom1896 I'm pretty sure that doesn't apply to ferraris and 8K rifles, except on the fact that if you bought this you wouldn't be able to afford ever buying again.
Love the rifle hate the cartridge
No love for the 7 PRC!?
@@MuleyFreak not when I run a 195gn Berger at 2912 out of the 7 mag 26” and a 175 Berger at 2975 out of a 7 mag 22”. 7 PRC was never needed. Especially with long mag fast twist factory options in 7 mag. You can even beat those speeds with a custom throat. 7 mag as a .115 freebore as its saami chamber. 7 mag was way beyond its time. It’s like they knew what the future of the long heavy bullets would become.
@@SpudOutdoorsyes, but, for factory options and factory ammo the 7 MM doesn’t outrun the 7PRC.
@@erikvanwoerkom1896 you can buy factory ammo with 195 and 180 and 175 for 7 mag. You can’t beat the 7 mag on factory offerings or ammo offerings. Or brass or materials to reload. Plus with the shorter freebore you can run more bullets than the 7 PRC. No offense but that round is a joke. Most and I mean most people shouldn’t hunt past 600 yards and 30-06, 7 mag both can smash an elk at those distances with decent loads but their full potential is much further. Not to mention way better bullets than hornady offers. A person shooting over 600 yards on an animal should not be using factory ammo to begin with. They should be reloading and getting the max accuracy and low SDs and low ES. The only thing it is going to do is force manufacturers to hurt the 7 mag sales. Which is just ridiculous for all the 7 mag users which is a lot of hunters. I personally run 2 7 mags. My buddy runs 3. Most people I know use 7 mags. The avg hunter hunts 300 yards and in. I am all for new cartridges when it’s needed. But didn’t care for the 300 PRC after I saw what a 300 win mag can do with a 245 EOL over 2800 fps with less powder than PRC. Now 6.5 PRC I like. We did not have a well established 6.5 magnum. Why haven’t they made a 25 PRC. Great caliber.
I agree and disagree with you. The round is incredible. (disagree part.) Most folks shouldn't shoot past 600 yards (Agree part). Factory ammo past 600 yards from a trained individual is completely and totally acceptable. Not everyone has the time or means to reload and thankfully so because factory options these days are incredible. That said, I love the 7MM as well. It's a great options!
I’d be afraid of that thing kicking like a mule in 7prc
It def has recoil, but a brake and or suppressor should buck that some.
I'll let you know how it shoots prone with a brake and or suppressor.
Why couldn’t you just show some groups now 🤷♂️
Another video coming on grouping.
My Weatherby backcountry 2.0 carbon in 30-378 is 1.5lbs lighter and half the cost. Shoots under half inch groups in a superior cartridges with manageable recoil. Nothing shows me that rifle is worth $7,800.
We are big fans of Adam Weatherby, but not necessarily the free bore of those high velocity calibers, unfortunately! The ergonomics and materials on the stock alone are of the cost of the Weatherby rifle. Custom hand finished stuff isn't cheap!
You won't talk me into a Weatherby, but I respect the heck out of those guys!
I wouldn’t really call a 9.5lbs rifle ultra light weight. Ultra light gets thrown around way too much. Many manufacturers have sub 6 or even sub 5 lbs rifles now. Putting a 2+ lbs scope on there also defeats the purpose of the set up. Looks like a great rifle but far from ultra light weight.
This isn't 9.5 pounds - did you mean with a bipod?
That is no ultra light weight. Howa has a rifle that 4.5. Then if your wanting the 7prc Weatherby back country is 4.7 to 5.6 for less than half the price.
I think there’s “ultralight” then there’s “stupid light”. 4.6 lb in a Weatherby caliber would fit under that category.
Honestly the weight of that rifle is what is considered normal/average weight. Because 99% of rifle made are 6 to 7.5 pounds.
Additionally, those factory rifles were engineered to shoot 300 yards too.
Great rifle but that being said I am a hunter reloader and gun collector 60+ years and have a couple hundred rifles built over the years and have owned most of the high end custom guns and have found you can get a Fierce rifle that will shoot as good if not better then the Proof be as light for about $3,000. I know because I bought one for each of my 3 boys and they are as good as the custom builds I have owned for twice the amount! That’s not an Ultra light rifle! The new Howa is an ultra light at 4-5 pounds. Most people can’t afford to spend that kind of money on a rifle even if it is nice but at the end of the day can you justify that price? No! My ultra lights customs are half the price and outshoot that gun! Still a great rifle but would you buy if if you had to pay full price for it?
Fierce makes a good rifle! No disputing that! Their rifles also shoot really well too, but again, it's like comparing apples to oranges. Fierce isn't on the same level as far as craftsman ship goes IMHO. And I'll say this again - they make a solid product. It's just not the same caliber. It's like comparing a Ferrari vs a Corvette. Both are aweomse, but there's just a lot more detail in one vs the other.
What @erikvanwoerkom1896 said
That’s interesting because I have heard nothing but horrible for Fierce. I know someone who theirs shot like 3.5” groups. Now Christensen are the ones I really question mark…. Have seen nothing but bad with them.
Thanks for watching!
These rifles don't hold a candle to my Ts Customs rifle.
Comparing apples to oranges, but TS makes a good rifle for sure. We own quite a few TS rifles as well.
@@MuleyFreak Hey MF, I agree with you that comparing a fine custom rifle such as a TS customs rifle to the proof Tundra Ti is apples to oranges. However, not in the way you think it is. The Proof rifle is inferior in every way, except perhaps weight. Its $7300 price tag does not boast any impressive features. Your inability to customize the rifle makes it a high end low value off the shelf factory rifle. You honestly should have probably bought a gunwerks, and that is not something I can say I have ever recommended. Now, let’s get into the details. First this is a $7300 rifle WTF MF. (I know you got it free) Second, titanium does boast light weight performance, however, there are many premium action companies who won’t build on titanium due to its inability to handle higher pressures like its steel counter part with lightening cuts. Third, the fact it comes with swivel studs is laughable, what high end modern rifle lacks picatinny or arca of any kind? Fourth, carbon barrels are great for saving weight but I disagree that proof is the gold standard for any level of accuracy, check out any precision rifle related event. Fifth, you have a $7300 rifle with no muzzle device included. At this price point, I don’t see how you could recommend this rifle to anyone- it’s a fine rifle but not great. There are so many capable custom gunsmiths who could make a vastly superior rifle to a customer’s exacting specifications that would far exceed the proof rifle across the board with a savings north of $1500, muzzle break included and a bipod mounting system from this century. You are a tremendous hunter- however, you are doing a major disservice to your loyal fan base by recommending a clearly inferior product.
@@MuleyFreak I see. Can you explain to me how this is a apples to oranges comparison? Thank you.
David, Erik here. How are you, brother? First off, I own more TS Customs rifle than probably Travis himself lol. Travis makes an incredible product, but as far as the apples and oranges comparison it's pretty simple. Travis doesn't make his own barrels, bottom metals, or actions currently. (PROOF doesn't make actions either). He started having some stocks made and fine stocks they are. With that said, there's my apples and comparing oranges comparison. Next item of business, I'm not recommending this rifle to all our fan base as it doesn't fit everybody's wants, needs, and budgets. With that said, imagine having your own custom rifle where you make your own barrels and stocks in house! Pretty incredible, really. Lastly, I wish it had an arca and or break too, but the brake is an easy fix and a smith can add an arca without much effort. Thanks for the compliment on my hunting abilities! Happy New Year!
@@MuleyFreakI’m doing well! Thanks for taking the time to make a thoughtful response. In the sense that Proof builds much of the rifle in house, I agree it is apples and oranges, I guess to me I more care about performance, and performance to value matrix. I have owned many proof barrels, and they have a definite performance edge over factory and semi custom options. Gunwerks has taken it up another notch or in house manufacturing but I don’t think they offer a good value either. Have a good one
Too rich for my blood.
This rifle isn’t for everybody; however, they have rifles for other budgets.
8gs🤢
Buy once. Cry once. Hand crafted stuff ain’t cheap.
Can't put a price on this kind of craftsmanship, honestly. I get it's more than most are willing to pay, but there's guns for those guys too! :)
Thanks for watching!
22 inch is kinda pointless for a magnum action buddy has a rifle chambered in this cartridge with 24 inch barrel he gets 100 fps less than the box for 175 grain
How is it pointless? It’s an ultralight long range rifle. Its purpose is for extreme mountain hunts where shots are 500+ and ounces are counted.
@@MuleyFreak not talking about weight might as well go with a 6.5 prc or some other short action mag IMO if I'm gonna have a magnum at a minimum of 24 inch barrel is my pick but it's just my opinion and what I like.
Personally, I think the 24" is my preferred length.
Way overpriced but...just overpriced. Good luck
Read through the comments…
STOCK DESIGN IS TRASH FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN OFF HAND STANDING SHOTS #LOOKINTOIT
Anything other than off hand? 🤔
Do explain….
Crickets!
NO CRICKETS HERE BIG DOG. I SAID LOOK INTO IT, I DIDNT SAY LISTEN HERE. AND A GUY CAN CHOOSE TO EDUCATE HIMSELF OR NOT….YOUR PREROGATIVE JUST SAYING MAYBE BE CLEAR THAT WHAT YOURE DOING HERE IS MARKETING. WHICH IS ALL WELL AND GOOD. BUT DONT DISGUISE IT AS EDUCATIONAL WITH A FEW FACTS ON METAL COMPOSITION. THE STOCK IS NOT OPTIMAL FOR THE PURPOSE. YOU EVEN SPEAK TO IT….THE WAY IT IS DESIGNED AND THE WAY YOU PLAN ON EMPLOYING IT…. NOT TRYING TO BE A DIK HERE, JUST SAYING THAT THERE IS ALOT LOT MORE VALUE IN MAYBE HELPING PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY MAY POSSIBLY WANT IN A TOOL FOR AN INTENDED USE… AS OPPOSED TO TELLING THEM ABOUT HOW SHINY THE ONE YOU CHOSE IS. THERE ARE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUES WITH THE THINGS YOURE SHOWING HERE, NOT ALL BAD - BUT IT WILL INFLUENCE SOME PEOPLE AND A LOT OF BAD CAN COME FROM THAT. AGAIN, NOT SHITTY ON YOU OR THE VIDEO, ITS UNDERSTANDABLE THAT YOU NEED TO SUPPORT THE FOLKS AND PRODUCT THAT SUPPORT YOU.
Stop yelling at me though. What's with the all caps? ;)