Is Canada accepting too many international students? | About That
The federal government is reportedly considering capping the number of international students allowed to study in Canada. Andrew Chang breaks down why experts say international students are both integral to the economy - and straining an overburdened housing system.
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You know things are bad when the CBC is echoing that Immigration levels are a problem. I don't think there are many Canadians out there who think immigration is bad or that it's their fault, but the LEVEL of immigration we have right now is too much.
I dont mind it. It makes rich people richer
We’re all suffering with healthcare and housing because of it. Thanks Trudeau/Singh.
No, in this case now - immigration is bad and has been found to be detrimental to Canada's economy and overall society now!
Then Canadians need to accept raising taxes or lowering spending end more
They know their masters are changing soon, so they are just preparing for it. It's not genuine at all.
90% of international students are not coming to Canada for studying, and they are not paying disproportionately exorbitant fees for Canadian education or degrees. They know they are paying a hefty amount to buy Canadian citizenship.
And the money they earned are not spent in Canada. Most of them gonna send them back to their home countries
Exactly
Most of them are not going to stay in Canada after getting citizenship, they will use NAFTA to work in the US, where the body shop consultancies will place them to jobs that they are not qualified to do.
Most go to earn money
100% indians
There are way too many. Canada is just one giant diploma mill. Ontario and BC are just states of India now. This is ridiculous.
Are u serious ? Acc to data of 2021 South Asians makeup only 11% of Ontarios population. I thought I would be around 50% seeing ur extreme statement. While in BC, Chinese r biggest minority with 11% , Indians being close 9.6%
@@user-ns6kv7mk3m so you’re basing your comment off of 2-3 year old data when the recent influxes of Indians have happened in the last 2 years. If you live in any of Canada’s big city centres, you’d be very aware of how many of them there are.
@@user-ns6kv7mk3mI'm a foreigner just went to visit Canada this last December and he is is right, too many of them, like that's a high percentage in a few years, wait until a couple of decades
Nah. Not “Canada is just one giant diploma mill.” Not “Ontario and BC are just states of India now.” /
@@koiue.g8709hey, yes we'll occupy canada and you think you can stop us whitie ?
What I am actually worried about is the fact a high school student cannot get a job because some guy named Navdeep or Harmanjit has already taken the job.
While being in their mid 20s almost 30. It's ridiculous. If their managers are Indian. You have zero chance being hire if you're not Indian.
I applied for a part time position and got called to do an interview at Walmart, upon getting there it turned out to be a group interview with around 5 others. All five were international students with full time availability, 5AM to 11PM, 7 days a week. How are high school or university students trying to make some money on the side supposed to compete with their completely open availabilities because they don't go to class and just work full time?
@@user-zh4xq6ip3dthat’s crazy, “students” with a full week of availability. I’ve been trying to find a part time job too in BC, it’s rough out here. Good luck to you my friend
…who’s a middle-aged man that’s stuck working minimum wage jobs. Yeah, I think you forgot to include that in.
@@user-zh4xq6ip3dYou only had 5? One time on February of this year, I got called for an in-person interview for a Toronto Blue Jays stadium job. Little did I know, there were dozens of people. And I mean DOZENS. I had to wait about 6 hours before finally getting an interview. I waited because I believed that I would’ve regretted leaving if I left before I eventually got my interview. I’m most likely never doing that again. Especially not for a minimum wage job that I didn’t end up getting. If it’s for a prestigious and high-paying one… then yeah, I’ll wait for a whole day without sleep.
Basically, Canada is not setting boundaries on how many international students it can handle.
Because there are Canadian institutions who are just robbing these students. There are so called colleges run out of warehouses that are licensed by provincial governments. It is a legalized method of taking advantage of people from the 3rd world.
They want to cap visas. But they also need the money 😀
Because taxpayers don’t want taxes to go up
@@johnl.7754 but why should taxes go up is the first thing to think, what is happening which needs taxes to go up... answer is lack of oversight on everything and hence budget deficits
@@j.tt.4877where'd the money coming from in this situation? Certainly not the students who put no money into the economy. (But instead take out countless funds)
Finally the media is picking up on this. Has been a problem for at least 4 years.
10 yrs atleast
20 years at least.
since 2006
@@chandrangmakwana252Nah I'd say since 2019
Since Stephen Harper
Andrew Chang's mini-documentaries are the best thing to come out of CBC in a long time. Protect this man at all costs.
@@ThisGuysGardenJourney Liberats need there News interpreted for them. They end up siding with con's if its not interpreted and explained why they should be outraged at or want a certain something.
In Vancouver, the skytrain is filled with East Indians! There opened up a garbage “college” near my house called Coquitlam college. Now, there’s hundreds on east indians swarming in the neighborhood. It’s horrible!
We need to slow down immigration until our social services and infrastructure can catch up. Shut down the diploma mills already.
good luck with that.where to begin twenty five years ago.who is running this policy?
Stop giving financial aids n use that money indoors
I agree 100 percent.
💯💥💥💥
The government's solution is always build more houses! Pump up that population! More consumption! More waste! Yeah!! I'm putting all my money into housing, colleges, and universities. Buying up all the land I can get my hands on. Might even start my own university. Keep bringing in more students. Turn this place into India. Drive that quality of life into the ground. Has your electricity bill gone up yet?
Get rid of these diploma mills. These students are coming here and not even getting a real education. Funny thing is most of these students don't even want to go to school. They would rather work and get a PR. Absolutely ridiculous.
Then the provincial government needs to shut those down…
Yes
These student are doing everything legal as per Canadian laws. which were created by Mr PM
@@WiseTreee I really really hope this is sarcasm, because Canadian people have difficulty making ends meet; government never use correctly taxpayer's money which frustrates us; Canadian students have to pay themselves for their studies, have difficulty to pay rent and you want us to subdidize education fees for international students? How do you want us to give temporary housing when there is no more housing available? There's so much people that lives on the streets and in tents!! Honestly, considering current events, this is too much asked for, it's not even realistic. It's not only about students but the whole immigration system we had those last years according to experts and banks. Don't push this further.
They all here for PR card who the fuxk travels this far to enroll in courses on culinary Indian cooking (georgian college).. and then go work at popeyes .
As a new citizen of Canada who came here as a refugee, I feel for Canadians who have been here for generations. No other country would tolerate this. I have nothing against people who come here to make it from less opportunistic places, as I was one of those people, but if you're gonna come to another country, respect its cultures and norms - don't act like you're still back home.
many countries tolerate this lol im from singapore and we have similar problems i heard that USA also does the government doesnt import people because they feel generous to migrants the govt imports people because more ppl = more gdp and birth rates around the world are decreasing so the best and fastest way to increase your population is to import
i think projecting hatred isnt the answer. This is tense for everyone. The government is to blame.
You might wanna keep your mouth shut buddy. You came to Canada and got all the free money and benefits as a refugee from the government whereas International students have at least contributed the money to the Canadian economy so better think twice before you open your mouth.
well said
@@dannybagga8133i agree there should be some international students but there’s way too many.
Canada is attracting the worst level of international students , poorly educated , poor civic sense, rural men from Northern India esp Punjab. I said this many years ago, to my parents , your going to see a collapse in social cohesion and we are seeing it in real time . This is having a disastrous effect on health care too, my father waited for 9 hours to get a scan, he lives with me now in the US and it took him 45 minutes to get a scan!!!
Those poorly educated come and take mortgages with low pay jobs and progress your financial institutions and you might get old with no home ,we are building your world silently with graveyard shift jobs when you are snoring
Stop with the bullshiet lol. Healthcare has nothing to do with students rather the fall is on the government and already monopolized doctors and medical sector that hates competition. Stop the gaslighting.
Mostly people from rural India are coming, you are right.
Canada is taking in all the criminals & so called students with drugs background especially from Punjab of India. That's the whole point which Indian Govt is also making that how all wanted criminals in India acquire Canadian citizenship so easily . We Indians don't want criminals to get ur country's citizenship as they create havoc in India from there But ur Govt keeps them safe for votes eg recently killed Nijjar was an Interpol listed offender who entered Canada despite having criminal background.
That’s absolutely untrue. I go to the university of Toronto and I’m Canadian and majority of students in the engineering program and computer science are south Asian and east. Indian international students are amongst some of the most hardworking and brilliant students there
This Canadian wants immigration to slow right down. We need to focus on Canadians and get this country back in order.
Yes, Trudeau needs to go too
which is not possible with Trudeauuu.
@@shawtvision Correct. Treason Trudeau needs to go!. We must have an election
@raze3150 Poor Canada. Way to many immigrants. Go elsewhere
@@shawtvision Trudeau is a very dangerous narcissist. He needs to be in jail. Our world is completely insane.
Some of them don’t even go school. They go under and work in the underground economy
That’s a problem here in the US too but not just with immigrants that come in as students. Just in general immigrants.
and then protest when they fail
facts i know a few
I’m in a Toronto university for computer science and 90% of the kids at international students from India
Happening in the UK too
Well thats how it is for computer science. Other majors are more diverse.
One of the reasons why I’m glad I dropped out of college, I would’ve continued to be a minority at my school while the majority are Indians.
How bad does it smell in there?
exactly
Food banks are now closing in my area because these students are now going there for free food. Food banks were not set up to feed international students!!
Bad for the disadvantaged citizens.
Indians 😎
Most international students in Europe and north America come from wealthy families in their countries... they would be ashamed to go to a food bank in their own country ! This is a ridiculous claim !
CBC is having this conversation like 8 years too late.
They've been having this conversation for years, look up the fifth estate episode they did. This is just the first time Ottawa is actually taking it seriously.
Isn't that always the way with them ?
@@EricBoulton26the only reason theyre taking it seriously now is because the polling is so strongly against them and they’re sweating seeing it and going into the next election, theyre in their 9th year and Trudeau and the liberals have made this country so much more difficult to live in, Canadians need to accept this was a failed government and move on and repair
@@EricBoulton26 , they are the same group that actively ban comments discussing some of the root causes. Such as banning anti-feminist talking points, and anti-whi_e ge00cide comments highlighting the federal government's plan to use tax payers to fund uncontrolled immigration while simultaneously doing nothing to help the local population, and actively demoralizing the local white population. This was 10 years ago: Where are the stories, such as a friend of mine being refused a job he's overwhelmingly qualified for, because he was too white? And We think this type of discrimination has no impact on natality?
@@EricBoulton26 The Fifth Estate is great. I must have missed that episodd.
I work for the BC provincial government, and part of my job is to hunt for homes to house women who are escaping violence. After spending 3 months searching for homes in Surrey, I've seen anywhere between 10-22 individuals living in a modest sized home. These homes are often very well run-down, have poor plumbing, and many illegal suites, and I've literally seen people sleeping in closets. Landlords can get away with this because the students from India don't care, don't have a choice, or are used to this standard. What the federal government is doing is unbelievable, allowing many people into the country. Just because international students come from places where they can sleep on top of each other doesn't mean they should allow it to happen here, reducing the living standards for everyday tax-paying Canadians. Despicable.
Nailed it. We now have a class system. Welcome to the 21st Century, Canada. :'(
The goal is to turn it into a third world country for others. While taking as much resources. A brilliant idea, and people are to obediently not say anything, while it happens beneath the surface. 2023 and 2024 are appearing identical in regards to silence.
@@jennifermarlow. Class has been the organizing principle since before confed.
So true! Canada is being destroyed.
No, students paying top dollar for college in Canada are not used to these standards. They are from rich families with better standards than the average Canadian here. They are forced to endure these conditions because greedy landlords and their minders in government allow this exploitation. These students have limited choices because they are sold a dream in their home countries about the opportunities in Canada. Their parents are racked with debt as well. Our government is responsible because we see these people as cash cows and not potential new citizens. I am very disappointmented by the attitudes of average Canadians towards these kids. We don't have enough housing in this country because our government doesn't see housing as a human right, but rather a commodity.
Caught in the middle of this is Canadian nationals. I rented a room and got 100 replies from mostly international students. all competing with citizens. The government and people need to consider the citizens needs before students.
I don't think it's about attending to citizens needs first. The mistakes should be corrected from the onset. Allow only the number of people you can account for period. No international student came into Canada illegally. We paid tuition and we will still pay rent if you provide us homes.. Government is supporting asylum seekers and refugees from thier pocket and then blaming students who are paying 4× the price of Canadians themselves.... how are we the cause.??? Does that even make any sense to you?
Yes! Canada is accepting too many international students. My neighborhood is inundated with Indian students due to the private colleges near by and the rents have sky rocketed. There is no available homes or apartments to rent. Very frustrating.
Happening in the UK too
This is a Canadian greed problem. Not the students' fault at all. Of course they'll come if we allow them to. And we are allowing them to. Why? Because the colleges are accepting them without adequate facilities to teach them (forget housing them). Some of these CANADIAN colleges are renting movie theatres. So these colleges are basically defrauding these students, and the burden goes onto the other Canadians.
Finally someone said this
the students are part of the problem too, they know they are participating in scams, they scam their way into the country to begin with
And these colleges charge DOUBLE the normal tuition to them as well. These post secondary school are nothing but a racket. And their politician buddies allow it to go on because they get their kickbacks.
so true,
I agree . Canadian political decisions , wars in other parts of the world all contribute to the current economic climate . To an extent , the higher number of students ALLOWED into this country is a factor as well and now they have been made the only scapegoats. This is the government's fault and some people use it as an excuse to show hatred towards students who came here legally .
Yes not just students tho immigration in general is way too much
I have no sympathy for anybody who chooses to come here either without doing enough research, or worse still, to scam their way to a permanent residency. This needs to be cracked down, and hard, for the good of everybody involved.
Did you watch the video? Fact of the matter is, they leave after graduating. So it's a non issue
@@abeerkindred5038 All Indians I know stayed.
@@Saturn7747 Frankly that should not be a problem either because they probably found a job and the Canadian government is taxing their incomes.
Most of the international students are coming from just one country too…
And from one province in that country.
@@farukhsheikh5790so imagine how over populated India is lmao
@@kk-gc1ii It was due to the fertility boom in the 1960's and 70's. The fertility rate was off the charts then. The government was very negligent in stopping that. Currently, the fertility rate is almost equal to the replacement rate, but the damage has been done.
@Marburg-yw4nj shush sukdeep kaur
You guys still don't seem to understand the situation here. These students don't come here for education, they come here for PR. Student Visa is just a bypass route for them to get that PR. I know few so called students who cant speak a word in english, how do you expect them to clear their international courses. They are not bright honest students. They are the jobless youth of India, who take loans or sell their lands to come here as students and spoil Canadian markets with cash jobs. My humble submission will be to stop Immigration for 3 years, and stop student visa to India for 5 years. Things will fall in place.
Well said
Then stop it completely ...why 5 years Guys ...as an international student myself ...students alone aren't the reason for the housing crisis ... Govt is extremely silent about the 100s of 1000s of refugees that they let in especially from middle East and Africa and they don't even have basic education to begin with ... They live a luxury life and roam in luxury cars and they have great accomodation by the govt that comes out of tax payers money... My landlord came across a lady from middle East and her family and...they don't work, they don't have any thing but grants from govt from which they live a 5 star life ... Looks at the service sector, it, medical field ..how many are there who are interestslmstudents who are educated ... This is a childish movement by Trudeau to secure more voted from Canadians and refugees painting a completely false narrative ...
@@cyrilmatthew2995 Taking in refugees from war-torn countries is MUCH different than international students choosing to come to Canada to study.
@@Kurathis552this punk says that because he is an international student. He just wants to deflect.
@@Kurathis552 why the govt if so silent about the real refugee crisis ...and students a portion of them are drilled and contribute to the economy... War torn regions ....why well versed middle Eastern nations like Egypt, use so blind and it's always up to USA and Canada to take in refygees... Admit that refugees are ones that wreak havoc .. what's has hapned in Sweden, furnace, Germany and what UK is currently suffering ..I If students choose to come and if they are qualified why can't they stay ...do your junk students just come coz they simple like to ....come on
Yes, my mom works at a tech / trade college and says many of them do the bare minimum (attendance and school work wise) to just get a pass to meet the VISA requirements. She said cheating on tests is rampant and they don’t really do anything about it. So I’m thinking that I don’t want to hire a contractor that graduated from this school with a barely passing grade. She said often many of them seem to think that paying tuition means you get the certification.
You are so wrong about this. Many immigrants are pro conservatives and right wing.
so it is good for your mom .... job security.... these student pay double tuition feet than Canadian counterpart🤔
I've seen them and I know what you mean, they are also KIDS. They have no idea that only 1/3 of them would ever get PR because Canada doesn't market that losing this game is not going back home but going back home in 40K of debt. Your mom needs to start speaking truth to this 18 year olds.
Well, your MOM has a job because of these poor students! If your government were NOT CORRUPT, they would have not just issued licenses to these strip mall colleges where your MOM is employed. I feel more sorry for the students, who get scammed NOT by individuals but by the CANADIAN government that promotes their education as the best in the world, which clearly it is NOT. Believe me, the quality of some of the Professors is abysmal.
@@WiseTreee We don't have States in Canada.....🙄
1 in 40 people in Canada is an international student. Last year we let in the same amount of new immigrants as the USA, a country with 10x our population. Let that sink in.
The United States has a huge illegal immigration pipeline going on so you are only accounting for legal immigration.
Im surprised we still qualify as G7, the quality of life has gone down significantly due to ridiculous quantities of immigration.
Altogether, the damage to this country by bringing in so many international students will cause Canadian citizens to immigrate elsewhere, including me at some point. It's hard to have this discussion sometimes as people will say you're being offensive, but really, I doubt the current climate of Canada is satisfactory for these overseas students either, their housing and job options here are poor and this affects Canadian citizes. If you go to places like Vancouver or Ottawa, it's completely unrecognizable to the unregulated amount of international students who are typically in poor situations.
Bro I came here as a student from India, Trust me its not offensive, even the students who made the mistake of coming here regret it. And I would too like the immigration to stop for everyone's sake because everybody in Canada is suffering. GOV. SHOULD LISTEN!
I was in Washington state recently and saw a sign asking for bus drivers, pay was $27USD/hour. Really made me wonder why I'm staying in this sinking ship of a country when a bus driver could make a better living than I just a couple hours south.
@@arsh9113so you wanna leave yourself or get deported?
..will cause Canadian citizens to emmigrate* elsewhere...
when are you leaving, buddy?@@arsh9113
480,000 people have immigrated to Canada in the last 90 days. These are the poorest of the poor, people that are considered low skill in Punjab. Canada is taking them all, with no plan to feed or house them.
But they'll work at Tim Hortons and Walmart for minimum wage.
@@goldenretriever6261 taking these jobs from young Canadians looking to enter the workforce for the first time.
@@BB-it6ljI wouldn’t say this is one of the problems. Canadians who want these min wage jobs will almost always get them over international students
@@stormblaze8 Hahahahahahaha nice one, you haven't seen my local Tim Hortons and the others in my area!
@@stormblaze8 Until an Indian becomes the manager and only hires Indians. I've seen this happen in two of my workplaces in the past year.
The problem is not the immigration AT ALL. The ACTUAL problem is the lack of societal integration: if these people do not learn our customs, laws, traditions, values and societal norms there will only be an increasing number of issues that will get more severe as time goes on.
Finally, some reporting on topics that resonate with what many Canadians discuss around their dinner tables. Indeed, this type of analytical journalism on such pertinent issues is precisely what we need more of from the CBC!
Me and my mom have been talking about this ever since our local Walmart has gone from all white workers to all Indian workers back around 2010
@@DAMfoxygrampa Cue the conservative racism, right on track.
@@CardiologyGuy It's not racism. I have nothing against these people, it's just a very weird occurrence seeing the demographics of your own community change so drastically.
@@DAMfoxygrampa Why is it weird that it went, in your own words, "from all white workers to all Indian workers"?
@@CardiologyGuy How about you try to figure it out you left-wing genius. Clearly you think you have all the answers so why don't you bestow your wisdom upon the KZhead comment section.
I live in North Bay where Canadore is and I can say over the last 5 or so years it seems it's been an explosion of immigrants mostly students and true the housing situation is a total disaster
I also live in an Ontario town that holds a University and a College, our city has been flooded with immigrants, I don't think many locals even go to the schools anymore. Almost every minimum wage job in my town has an immigrant working it Lol it sure doesn't take long
@@mbergamin16 Yep we see buses and everywhere just one comunity
Are they also all Indian even in a town that small?
@@SerenaCavanaugh yes
u got that right.north bay is becoming a sh it hole.i lock my doors at night now at all times of the day.
Yes. Short and simple. Look at the lines for a retail job where kids line up for 10 blocks just to hand in a resume. Were doing everyone a disservice by allowing so many visas.
True, I use to apply this job every winter just cause I just need to work here and there to eat for the year since I’m kinda well of back then, so I apply at this temp job this year and OMG the line was LONG! I waited for 3 hours and still had to do a test inside before the interview. After talking to people there, it was finally cleared that these were international students who are not going to school looking for job, failing there class and bunch of immigrant. This year I didn’t get call back. Probably was giving to one of the international student or immigrant, not gotta lie my résumé was overqualified for sure compared to everyone there so now I’m dealing with a lot of people international student or immigrants applying same job that I used to as a local men. Now I decided to edit it myself and actually get a career going which is crazy to think that these international student are not thinking that way, and I am, it should be the international people that help us elevate this country. Otherwise what’s the point now bring them in. Doesn’t help us anymore. So go cool turkey, Canada after 21 days you’ll be feeling amazing and your body will finally say thank you one day
The International students accepted were not just young college students, but mature students who came with their partners and children.
The immigrants final destination is not Canada. It's the US, Canadian passport gets them free passage to US.
Unfortunately Canada has lowered its admission standards over the years. It risks downgrading its education system and sliding downwards
it is already downgrading ,just a name
Canada has upped its prices. It's indicative of the disgusting, capitalistic group of losers we have become.
It's even worse in Australia, and the WORST in New Zealand. When I taught at a uni in NZ, we actually had lecturers FIRED for issuing failing grades to international students. Why? Because it upset their home government, who was funding them. I'd say 9.9 out of 10 international students in any English-speaking country are there primarily for the visa benefits.
I agree, once they obtain a working permit through the diploma mill, they will enter the job market using their bachelor's or master's degrees from their home countries to compete with individuals who have Canadian bachelor's or master's degrees for jobs. Moreover, most employers who are hiring might not even notice the difference, thinking, "This person has a degree," even when their degree isn't acceptable for admission into university programs in Canada. This situation could make Canadian university education seem inadequate in the workplace.
Nowadays higher education is a scam. So many diploma mills being operated purely for business. It's like they don't have enough seats for the customers who already bought the entrance tickets and they never stop selling the tickets 😂😂😂
we can't even afford a bachelor, our own kids are forced out of our own universities. Housing and our Hospitals are overflowing.
Any other country in the world would limit the number of international students coming into their own countries. Why shouldn't Canada limit our own borders and allow Canadians to afford and have housing at home? We are already accepting +1 million immigrants and refugees. We Canadians hope that common sense would prevail.
Common sense = discriminatory.
We need a full stop on visas
Harper was right in imposing visa restrictions on certain countries.
Bro, my uber driver said he was an immigrant from 8 years ago, and he was complaining of the immigration 😂
You will be surprised to hear then that even we (Immigrants) are not happy with this immigration which never seems to stop for everyone's sake.
Because till 2019 Canada invited a bunch of trash from all over the world. That's why they are still driving Uber after 8 years of staying here.
^ I'm super curious what immigrants like yourself are thinking about the extreme levels of immigration. Like why is it that you wouldn't like it either?
@@DAMfoxygrampa Most of us who has immigrated here a long time ago are now canadian citizens, and we'll also get pushed out from jobs and positions due to the insane influx of refugees and immigrants. It's just that the actual amount of people coming in is insane
@DAMfoxygrampa same reason as you guys - housing problems, job problems, cities too much populated and inflation but not related to immigration but the more people you have the less chances of wages to go up in different companies as easily availability of new hires etc
Students who come from certain countries (you know where) come to look for free food and free benefits from Canada. I work at a well known university and see them come for food bank the first day they landed. Even some came to complain that their grants got cut (of course, coz they never finish the thesis) and demanded for financial support as they need to pay for family expenses including car loan!! Wtf is car loan??? If you wonder where are these students from…you guess it’s right. We see them everywhere.
The purpose of immigration is to strengthen a country. It is not unreasonable to set limits on different types of immigrants in order to keep Canadas economy strong.
Canada needs to limit immigration based on available infrastructure. Prices have skyrocketed and people can't find places to live. One building owner laughed in my face and said we aren't building these apartments for Canadians. He explained that he can get one years rent up front from international people and he keeps raising prices.. It's plain to see there is a problem.
Government needs to put in place rent control.
Or directed immigration to certain fields such as construction. For example, I am an international student and occupy 1 residential unit, but back in my country I built 144 residential units. If I stay here in Canada after the graduation, it is the field I will follow.
they're not students. they're workers.
so you are saying Canadian doesn't wanna work. just welfare free money from government that is why government bring these students
@@Munsad1919the poster is saying most of them aren’t coming to be serious students. They’re coming to work under the table at their friend’s restaurant or family’s construction company. The study permit was just a pretext to get into the country.
@@moi1151 Yup!
@@Munsad1919wow so bash Canadians you know nothing about?
@@moi1151 or work as food app delivery drivers
*_People come to Canada not to study but to migrate and have a PR and eventually be a Citizen..beat that_*
International students promised that they got enough money to pay for their tuition fees and accommodation before getting university offer letter. It is funny they can work 40 hours just like the full time workers. Why did they tell that they got sufficient money to the University and Immigration and they wil focus on their study only till their study is completed? Why do they protest on roads now telling that teachers are falling them intentionally?
I've seen 15 Indian students off Brampton Ontario crammed in a very small room with just 1 electric fan... it's like prison to be honest
well. they pay for this prison ~$60k annually, and that's only for education :D you should be happy they are sponsoring your country
@@heartborne123 problem is they are also taking up hospital rooms and spaces in the ER, social assistance and the homes families used to rent and live in. A bunch of poor university students sharing a space isn't doing average Canadians any favours.
@@yeetian2774lol no wonder you get people from India who don’t speak English eveb though India has highest English speaking population outside anglosphere. You give visas to students who got no money or skills instead of attracting talented students
@@yeetian2774people who can afford to go study abroad have decent home s
The best part is their landlord will vote conservative
They need to have a list of recognized schools that meet the standards. Schools like CDI and others should be banned from meeting the requirements.
CDI Diploma's are nothing but paper weights. I have 2 of them & they haven't helped me financially other than debt. The recruiter at CDI North Edmonton was, in retrospect, similar to a lying door salesman. I graduated with honors in my field. Also, many of the students dropped out. It's true these scammers need to stop for they harm the quality of Our Nations Workforce as well as infrastructure. Low productive people produce nothing!!!
Yes, diploma mills are terrible for everyone - the students, the local community, and Canada's reputation. They need to be shut down.
Don't forget chain migration. A family comes in and they want their much older parents and elderly grandparents to also come in who go straight on the stressed out medical system and take up more housing and rental units.
did you watch the video? only about 1/3 of international students end up becoming permanent residents, and there are barriers and caps on immigration. the problem is the irresponsibility of so-called academic institutions, not students or immigrants
@@pollypocket2743 What does what I said have to do with International migration. I started my post off talking about chain migration which means actual immigrants who plan to stay here. I also have a friend at walmart who's East Indian and their "community" are pissed because students from India are taking their jobs. How? Companies literally have policies to hire them over Canadians at times.
@@pollypocket2743 One more thing. That same guy who told me that also said he knows current managers who first came here with "student visas" who didn't go to school since they never planned to. Their purpose was to pretend they went. They just had to pay for the schooling while they worked their way up the ladder to become managers then eventual "citizens".
They want it and it just happens right?
Remember when Saudi recalled their doctors and Canadian health became news ,I was shocked how come canada didn't have enough doctors that they needed foreign doctors from Saudi to run health enterprise in Canada and you guys don't think you are a third world
We're taking on too many people period.
Nonsense! We need more workers.
@@jillbelas7266You mean former doctors and lawyers now driving uber or delivery? Ask your delivery person where they studied, what they were, you will see how broken the system is. Just my opinion.
@@jillbelas7266 250,000 tim hortons employees with a million more on the way.
@@jillbelas7266there are many eligible and willing workers already. It's employers refusing to hire because they can have part-time student labour with only basic responsibility towards them.
@@Yani.R 1. Canada doesn't recognize the degrees of people from outside of Canada. It's not the employer's fault, it's Canada itself, so until that changes, yes, you're going to have people with degrees who aren't going to be able to get careers in their field because those degrees aren't recognized here. 2. There are many eligible workers who are Canadian born here who would love to have a job.
i have friends in their early 20s who cant get jobs and friends with well paying jobs who cant get a place of their own and have to house-share with roommates. it is disheartening seeing international students in this video complain that they cant get housing or jobs, but neither can canadians. the housing market needs to catch up to the population and demand but cant if it is outpaced unfortunately, which is the case for many other countries we are seeing making changes to immigration because of the population boom (such as the uk). some of these campuses should really consider taking those millions and investing them into campus housing if they want students so much
Yes, yes and yes.....Canadians first and housing for Canadians is a priority. If immigrants are having problems finding housing, too bad, so sad.
As a Student myself I wouldn't blame anyone beside the GOVERNMENT. They made this mess and hopefully people are smart enough to point fingers at the GOVERNMENT and not just quarrel with each other which usually happens... IMMIGRATION needs to STOP for at least 3-4 years
I and many of my coworkers are living in our parents basements on engineering salaries. We can't move out, the cost of living has skyrocketed because of them as they take up every rental and have like 8 people per place. Nobody can start a family, we're going to have massive depopulation issues.
Yes, that is definitely a good solution that ought to be implemented. Universities should be required to prove they have housing available for all the international students they accept. This would cut down on the diploma mills significantly and force universities to invest more in student housing.
I recall in past decades in the US it was a requirement for some schools that you live your first year on campus as an international student. That kept numbers down.
Conservatives have been saying this for years, not that immigration is bad but rather that too much is problematic... Took a crisis to address it...
One of the worst situations happened a few ago in the town where I live. The local college accepted several international students. They built logging campstyle housing: Atco bunk trailers in the yard of a seniors' home.
Yes, I am a conestoga college student. There are many indian students in the college. Some of them they don't go for study, instead, they went for work. Because of a lot of international students, the shortage of teachers, bad school services, higher tution fee and rental fee. I am not satisfied with my study experience.
@@WiseTreee why would canada prioritize internationals over canadians? Plus, you need to prove your financials to get the study permit so if you dont have money to support yourself with 20hr/w job, you must have faked your documents or sth man. Btw im international student too.
@WiseTreee hahahha dream on.tax payers not gonna subsidized international students.. if you can't afford it here please go ro Ireland or Australia or some other country.and buy your education.
You need English lessons
@@WiseTreee Its not Canada duty or food banks to feed International students that are not Canadain citizens that faked their funds just to land in Canada as international students
@@dnehdgusyou don't get sarcasm it seems.
The example used should have been somewhere like Conestoga, which has become an absolute diploma-mill, basically selling residency. The impact on local communities has been ridiculous and many of those students are competing for local working class jobs. Remove the residency ability and the number of students will collapse, that is what is needed. If the institutions can't prove that they can house the students they should not be allowed to bring them in. If some of these diploma-mills go bust, good. We should be putting a break on immigration anyway, to give Canada a break to integrate the millions and millions that have come in in the past two decades.
I'm Bangladeshi, and I hear most students who go are going for PR. 99% of them. They go there and bash Canada lol oh the irony; 😅 I speak good English and enjoy English movies. I don't need to move to an English country to have the lifestyle if you know what I mean.
However, I think its impossible to not have a pr option for international students as some of them are really high skilled plus already has the education here. If Canada get immigrants directly abroad, why get from people who have studies here. Its just about control and proper policies and schools being legit and having dormssss
We never had all these problems before Trudeau took office. Thats just a fact.
Why, yes! Thank you for recognizing this, CBC. About 5 years too late, but better late than never i guess!
Need to stop work permit for international students or do not accept if insufficient financial for colleges / universities fees.
All around i see only students from india , i dont know where the other international students are . Just saying
You realize most of them are from one particular state called Punjab . Jagmeet Singh's state
I'm an immigrant and my immigrant friends and I were talking about exactly this just the other day. I'd like to add some context on why so few international students stay: they can't. Schools prey on this very fact. In international recruiting, these schools use the promise of thriving local industries and trot out graduates working locally as major draws to these expensive programs. Then once students are in Canada, many of these schools couldn't care less: they offer little or sometimes no housing support, no immigration advice (or in my case and many of my friends' cases: they give straight-up false immigration advice that can screw you over or even get you in trouble). There absolutely needs to be regulation and accountability for these predatory schools; I think a good starting point would be capping the number of visas they can apply for based on the number of housing units available (either on-campus or via local development subsidy and homestays). Tons of students come to Canada completely unprepared due to false promises made by these schools, and then get spit out into an egregiously inefficient and broken work visa system. My immigrant friends and I are all highly skilled in our specific field. There are only a handful of people in the world (let alone in Canada) who can do what I do at the level I do it, so I would be incredibly difficult to replace if I left Canada. Despite that, and despite being Canadian-educated (Canadian resources invested in me that you'd want to keep in Canada), remaining in Canada has been a massive struggle for me and my friends. We individually spend hundreds and even thousands of dollars every year to apply for permits that have to be renewed annually, but take the government 6+ months to process. Because the government is so backed up, we have to apply for *extra* permits to bridge that gap (more money, and more work added to IRCC's already-long line of applications). I'm in limbo for the majority of the year where I can't switch employers, can't leave the country, etc. It's horrible. But I have it better than most. Of the international students in my year, only I and one other student are still in Canada because the transition to work permits is so needlessly long and difficult. Even a graduate who does manage to get a work permit might have to sit unemployed for 6 months or more before that permit is active. How is a student supposed to survive without work for that long? In order for employers to even apply to sponsor a graduate, they often have to do a lengthy labor market impact assessment, and so these graduates are stuck in a holding pattern, and they're the lucky ones. Immigration is absolutely vital to Canada and I hate how quickly these stories turn to xenophobic rhetoric, but we have to make space in the conversation to take a look at how schools are exploiting students and policy loopholes, and why they're doing it, and address those problems. The current system isn't fair to anyone.
I actually genuinely agree with you and finally some one who l found in the comment section that actually has a functioning brain for once and this world actually genuinely needs more people actually like you
@@user-gu8qi4me8xit’s called comments section not freaking essays. Who got time to read 3 pages of b**sh..?!
@@gatwickguy Thanks for the meaningful contribution.
This should've been talked about YEARS ago.
Yes we are excepting to many international students. When the Canadian citizen cant even find a job in their home town, then thats a problem, and thats exactly whats happening. Companies see it as saving money when they hire these students, seeing the government pays half-wage subsidy for foreigners.
I was born in 93' and high school and Uni I worked in fast food to make money. Now almost all fastfood places I go to have entire inmigrant staff. It's makes me wonder if local teens or adults are losing job opportunities. I'm not against immigration, it just has to be sustainable for both sides
As a previous fast food manager I can assure, they are losing opportunities that actually accommodate to your average ‘high school’ aged young adult. Students get hired because they get a lower hourly rate and companies save money on labour but as sad as the negative cliches are, they are true from what I’ve seen! They take advantage of immigrant workers and dismiss rights! We had a coworker who was happy to escape what she called ‘Slave conditions’ at her family owned and ran sandwich store chain. It was sad that she was happy to have at least a paid 15 minute break. Definitely not ‘sunny ways’ for anyone.
@@WiseTreee your out of your tree there wisetreee, it would also be an asset for the Canadian government to helps it own citizens. Which they are failing to do. They are catering to international students, and no , if your a student and you come here , you made the decision to come here , you should pay for your own food, food banks are for our people who are having trouble making ends meet. You think foreigners who come here are starving and broke? You better think again. Just about all of them are guaranteed work. An A one line of credit and monthly funding from the government. I'm not against foreigners, I am against our government catering to them before it's own people. Oh and may I add , that if your an international student , you must have at least 20,000$ in your bank account before you can even enter the country. The average Canadian won't see that balance in their lifetime.
@@WiseTreee "I request Government..." Oh, my, you must be new around here.
Accepting!
Far too many new people.
they also clean out local food banks not cool
As a formal international student myself, I do agree that we are getting too many international students, uncontrollably. It broke the ecosystem. It needs to stop, asap!
The economy, not the ecosystem, what are you studying currently?
@@M4DD4WGEcosystem can refer to any cycle-like system
@@planefan082 Yeah, you're right
Then go back and SAVE CANADA!
you can be kind enough to leave canada for good right away … canadian people would appreciate your exit at the earliest considering you’ve had enough of our hospitality
CBC is talking about this massive problem AND allowing comments..😀
Right!? Even the CBC uppers realize we’re in a CRISIS. Canada is doomed to be a third world mess if we don’t get immigration reform now!
Finally
Yeah, you know it’s too late when the CBC is finally on it!
As a citizen trying to achieve admissions to complete a DVM in Canada, this is a required problem worth discussion. The country is in a deficit for veterinarians but one of the largest schools in Canada, OVC has increased their international admissions over domestic significantly. We need support for domestic students to increase before international students to ensure service to Canadian communities, especially rural Canadian places.
$60,000 vs. $6,000 that is the equation schools face. Both the government and schools will continue to run these scams. The money is too good to give up.
You need to protest please. Create a social media video so it gets attention and share. I’ve heard the same.. international students taking Canadians spots in schools. This cannot be taking place. They are displacing Canadians.
As a Canadian born from immigrant parents, Canada does need immigrants from time to time. However, there needs to be a limit! Especially immigrants from less developed countries like India from where the immigrants who come here do not adhere to the culture and laws of Canada.
We are talking about immigration, housing and jobs... and you are talking about culture.... what is the relationship Will culture help to provide homes? You could be on your best behaviour and still sleep outside. Canadian government should bring in only the amount they can handle... in immigration generally
Easy*
@@TheDIYMistressculture matters. Especially when you have people from other cultures on the road driving like maniacs and putting others lives at risk.
International students that are legit are ok. They study in UBC, SFU, UofT, Waterloo, and others and get proper degrees. The problem lies in the diploma mills who are accepting everyone and anyone who has money. They do not have proper educational system - just in it for the money. See Conestoga, their international students increased 1,500% since 2014 compared to just only 64% increase for Waterloo. Conestoga approved 30,000 new student visas just the past year. It's insane.
Nope, there are too many of the legit ones too!
without international student. all diploma colleges will increase tuition for Canadian kids. some of them will close the door without international student
@@Munsad1919 We were doing just fine before you got here. What would happen is that these silly schools would be shut down and Canadian students would continue on to proper colleges and Universities.
@@Munsad1919it really wouldn't be a bad thing if most of these colleges close their doors, so the reputable ones (Seneca, Centennial, etc.) can regain their credibility.
The medical schools and such used to have limits, with most seats going to Canadian students. That is history now. It's not just the diploma mills.
I've watched a few of these Andrew Chang documentaries. Pretty well researched and well delivered.
Every single working staff including receptionist in my condo was fired and replaced by Indians in past year or so. Its sad to see that the government just doesn't care about well being of its own citizens.
Wow! CBC left comments open 😮
I'd be interested in seeing the raw statistics of mass immigration vs job scarcity and value. Living in a rural town in one of Canada's poorest provinces, it feels like businesses are relying on immigrants to work for minimum wage, which is still $15 BELOW the living wage. Since they can hire people for less, they will do so. There is also the issue of these international students relying on and clearing-out food banks. They're sold the idea that they only need $10k a year to survive in Canada, and obviously they can't, so they rely on these systems (that were already struggling as more and more people face homelessness and extreme poverty) to get by.
@@brentmorrison3392 A friend of mine had an interview for an indian-owned pizza place recently and was told they pay $10/hr
@@brentmorrison3392 the students ask for cash job even at amazon, they know what they are doing and they want to get exploited
@@brentmorrison3392It's also hard to get that job if you're not Indian.
The objective of mass immigration is wage suppression of Canadian workers.
@@brentmorrison3392 One of Nova Scotia's richest billionaires, John Risley, made his money off the backs of the poor, paying less than minimum wage, stealing from the Newfies he employed (imo). That's just one example, and I can name pretty much every billionaire down east ... Irvings, Olands, Joyce ... It's not about "Indians" ... it's about greed.
Canadian collages did not had money 10 to 12 years ago to keep courses alive and pay professors without increasing tuition on Canadian born kids. so they charge international student double fee and makes millions of dollars. some of the courses had no value. still students are joining and coming here to get legal Permanent residence. It is multi million dollars business.
So the administrators and professors are basically free-riding off the rest of us.
100 %
That explains why domestic tuition hasn't increased by much in the last few years
Domestic tuition has gone up alot for some courses
@CoCo-qi5nr 4 times actually. resident tuition of my course is around 9k CAD and the international student rate is almost 36k CAD.
I am surprised the CBC is allowing comments.
Instead of hiring students, why not hire skilled workers? Like nurses, engineers and IT people.
Thje problem we have in canada about skilled workers from abroad is the corporatism of the professional association of medicine , nursing , engineering etc.... The are blocking the nurse ,doctor and engineer from abroad to work in their field in Canada.
There is also a failure of recognizing that many of these international students are coming from nations with different political views or have extreme dogmatic values, and are ultimately bringing these issues abroad when they enter a new country.
Exactly the video is not taking into account the collapsing social cohesion which is happening in Canada.
Eh so Canada is no longer a country with political freedom? Only people with your approved political view can stay here?
@class6aa I think you may have missed my point. By differing political views and dogmatic values, I am referring extremist beliefs that can cause further division, conflict, and safety concerns amongst the greater public.
Criminals / related to drugs r given easy citizenship by Canadian Govt. Indian Govt has long been demanding to not give citizenship to such ppls which will make ur country hell. But ur Govt didn't listen in its Anti India stance(As they plan riots & terror plots in India sitting there in Canada) & to garner votes (Jagmeet Singh party). Even now very high no. Of most wanted Criminals of India r hiding in Canada courtesy of Vote Bank politics of Canada's politicians. Indian Govt has long cautioned but it seems it's very late.
Limit immigration for 10 years.
It's honestly already too late.
they aren't immigrants, they're temporarily in the country.
@@neverevenheardofit Yeah okayyy 😂
Ok "Mohamed" 💀
@@robmil2012he's right though
I love this series, Andrew Chang always bringing up the topics we need to be talking about!
How about the lack of room for local students to get in.. they would rather take international over studens that need to come that would be "remote" Red deer to to edmonton to or calgary also need housing.Or allo virtual students to stay virtual- they can be remote, like the locals who can't afford an education in their own Canadian cities.
Yeah
You Canadian?
International students are not students at all, just fast visa to come in Canada.
You forgot bringing in $30,000 per student just in fees.
Here is an easy solution, that will get rid of diploma mills, limit the number of international students to a ratio of domestic students and then put in a minimum threshold. For example, Minimum of 10k domestic students before you can accept international applicants, then limit the applicants to up to only 5% of the total students, this cap increases for schools that have more domestic students. Therefore, legitimate university can still attract legitimate international talent. Diploma mills that no domestic Canadian student goes to can't even open up to scam international students. Easy fix government will never do it.
Of course they won't. Did you miss the part about the schools basically requiring the money from foreign students to remain open? Your method would eliminate high quality institutions altogether and close many schools outright. There'd be less spaces for Canadians than there are now. It's a balancing act, one that ironically would make a great doctoral thesis.
@@KMCA779 Exactly, except i don't have any problems with schools closing. You're presuming that these schools offer some sort of value. A lot of these don't. High quality and reputable university and college will have no problem attracting talent and will have no problem remaining open. If they can't operate with a majority of domestic students then they shouldn't be open.
@@yuneitz So none of them. Or if they do they will be reduced to glorified community colleges with outdated teachers and equipment. Schools need money. While I'd love to see less money spent of sports complexes for universities and more on research equipment that won't happen if they have to rely on the greatly reduced income of a majority local population. A compromise needs to be made, yes. But at the level you're proposing you'd reduce the great institutions to the near fradulent ones that are the problem... or they'd have to make money some other way that would likely be even worse. At least some graduates from the scam schools learn something. We want to keep those students, because right now they're likely to be our next generation of healthcare aids.... god help us.
@@KMCA779 Because they don't have legacy funding or support from (insert multi-billion-dollar private company).
@@yuneitz the good colleges and institutes has been operating from so many years without any issues, what will change if the student population of international student will go down... but capping will definitely weed out the wrong colleges and diploma mills
INDIAN students, not International Students.
All of our cities are completely done. We have literally no space
Yes, absolutely. It's absolutely overwhelming and disastrous, and it needs to be reigned it.
in 2023, 62,410 international students in Canada became permanent residents. The government released a plan to grant permanent residency to 465,000 people in 2023. WHO ARE THE OTHER GROUPS THAT FILLS THE REST OF PERMANENT RESIDENCE APPLICATIONS.
Refugees 😂
data from 2022 - nationalities granted PR - 1 India 118,095 2 China 31,815 3 Afghanistan 23,735 4 Nigeria 15,595 5 Philippines 22,070
@@dasalekhya There are 500,000 Sikhs in Canada, and now at least 500,000 Hindus with the mass immigration slanted to the latter. When do we start seeing the Hindutva driven BS in Canada and strife between the two communities. We are immigrating others nation's problems.
@@nina5-12 At the very least Ukrainians assimilate and have similar values, Filipinos too to a certain extent. I constantly see Indian families out and the kids don't seem to speak any English, Afghanis import their stone age ideology.
@@nina5-12Ukrainians have already been coming in since 2022
There is sooooo much wrong with this I can’t even begin. I will say that I work in retail in a small town with no college or university in our town and we’ve had a lot of Indian students come in to ask if we’re hiring with resume in hand and calling the store as well. It’s way out of hand how many students they’ve let in, ridiculous actually.
40%students from India ,that’s not a diverse country,that’s a country being taken over by 1 culture
Yes. We are also accepting too many permanent residents.
Moreover, recently food banks raised the alarm that international students emptying them (going to multiple locations, abusing the policy) mostly in western part of GTA....😢 at the time when straggling Canadians can't get food.
How on earth is there no cap on international student intake? Why is Canadian govt so very poor with planning?
I used to teach and coordinate programs for international nurse, this is spot on - and I have always wondered about Canadian students getting into programs - we need Canadian students who are talented and want to study but cannot afford it. There is so much i could unpack. In general, most of the students are lovely and hard-working, but the intent in most cases is to get a PR status - so most of them stay. Many also are disappointed with Canada - as they may come from a place where they were in a different social class. I know many of my students now are productive members of Canadian society working in their chosen fields. I am proud of them - as the move was not easy and they left their families behind. Considering that most of the world is a collectivist culture versus our individualist culture of the West, there is much to adjust to. Good piece.
You Canadian?
@@mikeanderson7549 what does that have anything to do with what I observed?
@@PiroskaBata just saying
@@mikeanderson7549 saying what? can you be specific?
@@PiroskaBata just wanted to confirm as this channel is Canadian based
International students are now a 30B industry, not 22B anymore. Secondly, the students themselves mostly from India are here for PR purposes. Education is secondly for mostly even from other countries.
Surprised the comments are active.
I am an international student. Almost killed myself because of the stress of becoming HOMELESS AT this cold place. PEOPLE DON'T COME TO CANADA FOR NOW.
What this guy said is true
Where are you from? Canadian education isn’t worth the struggle and I say this as an international student who briefly went homeless for a brief of time, luckily it was in summer and had some family friends give me a shelter. Even if you graduate, it will be hard to land a good job. I say this from experience, you’d be traumatized and I still ptsd from it. Call home I’m sure they’ll understand, i regret not doing it sooner.
its a Canadian citizen factory
As an immigrant nurse myself, I am all for immigration and hoping for the success of all immigrants, BUT, there should be cap per college or university. Those sudden influx of students have detrimental effects to Canadians and residents especially with the housing crisis, and Healthcare crisis that we are experiencing right now..
They are students who bring money with them and they work 22 hours here in Canada and contribute in Canadian economy.... these students are not asylum seeker or refugee. as of Jan 1 2024. before they land in Canada they have to Shaw Canadian government $20600 in GIC in Canada. so they wont be Burdon on Canadian people
@@Munsad1919 These Colleges and University should have the housing set up for the students before they arrive so none of them are in rental properties that should be for Canadians living here. It also didn't help that between 2014 and 2017 the conservative party voted down on building new affordable housing, which also created a problem when the Lib's brought in a ton of refugees.
@@Munsad1919 if that's the case, why are so many international students found to be broke, using food banks and social assistances? Also there's no way 22 hours of a minimum wage job can cover living expenses in Canada for a university student without family backing.
@@c-v-n3322 I don't even think it's as simple as one side wants unlimited immigration and one doesn't. The federal, provincial governments, property owning corporations and big business are profiting off lower waged workers. It's pretty openly stated by immigration officials that we need immigrants for picking fruit and paying pensions, nothing about being loving and caring.
@atulsoma1919 too many too fast. Infrastructure cant keep up. Having money and not being a refugee dont change that.
My question is: why is it that 98.5% of international students come from one country? I remember when I was in high school working at McDonald’s etc now Walmart, Petro Canada, Tim Horton’s, McDonald’s are only hiring international students and only from one country too 🧐
Which country? India or China?
You will understand if you google brain drain or the gdp per capita of india. Sums up to leave the country or be in poverty forever.
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