Hayes: 'This was one of the worst losses in the Leafs' modern history'
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The Leafs fell short in a critical playoff game Saturday night against the Bruins, and now face possible elimination in Game 5. TSN's Leafs panel discuss the frustration Toronto showed in the game, how Brad Marchand and David Pastrnak continue to show up when it matters for the Bruins, and more.
It's not the worst loss when you never expected them to win.
All the delusional Leaf fans did
@@HunterMagunterI thought it would at least be close. I didn't expect absolutely no effort, from anyone.
It will Never be close The leafs are shit 😂
@@people3865 I don't see a strategy of play from the Leafs. And, that's on the coach.
@@leezwatz3339 I don't either, but it was no different under Babs. At a certain point, don't we just have to say this isn't working? Personally, I wanted Gallant in the off season regardless. Keefe has overstayed his welcome by a significant amount
Well, at least the Leafs can now say that they've scored more goals in 4 games than Zach Hyman has in three games...
Hyman gets a hatty tonight
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Hilarious
Who gives a F what Edmonton does against a trash LA team. I’ve seen the soft goals he’s scoring. Do that against a good team and I’ll give a F.
@@disinformationworld9378 🤡🤣🤣🤣
You can't coach heart. Matthews was disappointed that he didn't get that 70th, and didn't seem too excited about the upcoming playoffs. He doesn't get paid for playoff games, and it shows. love him or hate him, Marchand makes almost HALF the money of at least 4 leaf players and plays with everything he's got every night.
Marchand plays for the logo on the front (whether it's a gold and black B or a black, red, and white maple leaf), whereas Matthews plays ONLY for the name on the back.
@@rickpapineau5939that’s how you should play!! It’s does matter what the name plate on the back says (as you said) He’s plays like that rich kid who’s selfish who got his paycheck and checks out in the playoffs. Doesn’t want to get hurt. Wants to go golfing
The only "star" worth anything in Toronto imo is Nylander. He's the only guy I don't see moping around when things get tough. That's why I want him on my favorite team, San Jose
Agreed. Matthews is a me guy. Stats and fashion are his statement. If he was a little taller the NBA WOULD do him fine.
matthews has been great and marchand would have lost the series single-handedly if the refs were actually reffing. did u watch any games? come on. leafs sux b/c their mgmt sign clowns like reaves and wasted money on domis (though hes been ok - the the combined sal could have been spend on a much better player) instead of using that 4+mil to sign someone like o'reilly. they trade aways dozens of picks to get 6th and 7th d like edmun and lubby when they could have traded for a guy like tanev for half of those picks....and so on. worst mgmt in nhl history (and beating out ari aint easy).
Paying 4 players over 50% of salary cap is insane.
Worst loss is the game against zamboni driver David Ayres - it still cracks me lol 😂😂😂
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No. This was a playoff game and much worse.
💯!!
Ayres would've been better in net than Samsonov.
Dayummmm
Hayes is great. Summarized everything and you could tell he was just seething with rage
No where near as bad as the game 7 loss against the Habs a few years ago.
this was as bad because there was hopes that the core was at their prime and could overcome those demons. The opposite is true. Those demons are part of the Maple Leaf franchise.
I gotta agree with you there. Game 7 against the Habs felt like one of the most predetermined games I've ever seen. And as soon as Gallagher scored, I knew the series was over.
That was fkn terrible. Sent me to root for the Kraken. I was tired of the choking
They didn't try in game 7.
That was a beautiful moment
How can one say that this is the worst Leaf loss? There's so many to choose from.
In terms of effort and a culmination of frustration, it all basically became evident that this loss is the straw that broke the camel's back. All three of those Boston goals were easily preventable by a good side.
I mean, I would’ve gone with the four goal comeback by Boston as the worst
Recency bias.
@@incarnateTheGreatstill think getting your ass handed to you by your own employee might be a worse loss…
@@metropod haha oh man. What a night that was. That was very much a Maple Leaf thing to do.
Hayes spitting straight facts. Love it.
Holy shit, I don't think I've ever heard such an aggressive verbal dismantling of a team like this.
Hayes is good. And the leafs deserve it. The franchise collectively can not get an inside read on what is what. Never learn from history. Never see the big picture. Constantly reacting to the latest story the media throws at them. Never sticking to their guns when it counts or changing it up when they need it. They dont hire talented, hungry people. Dubas was assistant gm in his twenties then strong armed Lou lamoreillo out of town at 30 years old. Keefe is a rookie coach. What do you expect
@@cjmllvvkeefe has been a coach since they lost to a Zamboni driver
Dude straight shredded them lol
Hayes is spot on with a true and honest assessment of the LEAFS
Have you never watched Steve Dangle? This is nothing compared to his video last night
The worst loss has to be going into the third period of game 7 up 3-1 and losing 4-3 in OT.
I watched that game. That was hilarious. -canucks fan
18 wheeler going off a cliff
They at least competed in that game.
That's because Phanuef and Reimer were taking shots of Vodka before the 3rd period
Is that a true story? I thought Reimer was very religious. @TroysPepperstick
In playoff hockey, guts gets the glory. The Leafs are a team without heart or guts. They don't really want to win, not really. Have been like this for decades now, and it just continues. Just awful.
They don't want to win? I had to read this 3 times to make sure I was reading it right.
Bailed early, glad I did, had a nice evening with the family not caring about this loser fucking team.
Ya i actually knew it was over after the first goal and turned it off
See ya next year.
@@chadwellington2524 Good we don't want fair weather fans like you anyway. Bet you can't name 5 players on the team.
@@scottyheav ur so delusional if you really sat there and thought the leafs were gonna steal that game too. Looked like they were playing a game with a predetermined outcome. Lets just support Utah next year
@@connordinn5390 I never said I expected them to win. But as a true fan, don't you agree to be there for the team thru both crushing losses, and victories? If you only stick around when they win then you are a fake fan. Correct?
A tale of two captains: Brad Marchand cranks it up to 11 when the playoffs start and becomes as clutch as David Ortiz. Meanwhile, John Tavares disappears and makes Toronto wonder why he wears the captains C.
Weakest captain in leafs history. He's brutal. Zero leadership
His pajamas was all the reason he was made captain. He's still asleep
Marner qnd Matthews are the problem not Tavares
Tavares has never spent a single second being a captain in his entire life.
Change the captain next year this is brutal.
10 years of Shanaplan failure!
What a sham of a plan.
Toronto was awful and irrelevant before Shanahan rebuilt the franchise. Hes done everything but get that final piece to the puzzle. Toronto fans are the worst. Hope they never win a cup again. Don’t deserve it
i tend to agree with tony, shanahan made a decent go of it, but you can't expect the man to fall honourably on his hockey stick fer chrissakes. It's up to MLSE to end this and move on, as humanely as possible.
It is time the leafs were removed from t0r0nt0 and moved to Quebec City.
That's enough of this group. Time to move on.
Sean Connery was still 007 the last time the Leafs won the cup.
For better perspective: nobody had landed on the Moon when the Leafs last won a Stanley Cup
And there where only six teams!
Canada was only 99 years old when the leafs last won the cup.. They haven’t even made it to the cup since 1967
Clear the track here comes SHACK!!! That's what they are missing, heart
In order to remember the last time they won the cup you would have to be in your early 60s minimum. It's been a while for my Habs too but at least I've seen them hoist the cup twice so far in my lifetime (unlike Leaf fans there is a good chance I will see that happen again).
Leafs are soft. Don’t sacrifice to stop goals nor sacrifice the body to get to prime scoring areas. Opponents are happy to keep them outside knowing they don’t have fight in them
Most fans will just say that win or lose, all they want is an honest effort. Mats, Wendel, Dougie, Darryl, Borje...we miss you boys!
they also won nothing.
if they played Swayman in game 2, it would've been a sweep.
Nah, that's definitely not the case. Ullmark was an absolute beast in game 2. The Leafs just outplayed the Bruins in that game.
These guys are basically celebrities that are great at hockey. They use the regular season to pad their stats to cash in big paydays. In result, that gets them to the playoffs where they play the same regular season brand of hockey and peace out early to enjoy their lives of luxury for a few months until the next season starts again. It also doesn't help having a fan base and hockey media that each year over hypes them and tries to sell everyone on the idea that they are magically a true contender after getting a depth player over the summer. That enables these guys to keep doing what they're doing year after year knowing the media and fans will keep pumping their tires instead of holding them accountable for more than two weeks after they're bounced from the first round. Celeb's on skates milking whatever they can.
I said everyday in the chat of overdrive on KZhead. They are regular season cash cows and absolutley Charmin in the playoffs. This was no surprise to me at all.
the reason you NEVER reward potential - NO PAY until you WIN
If Marner showed 1/100th of the passion throwing his temper tantrum after Nylander called him out the Leafs would have a hell of a lot more than 1 playoff series win in 8 years
If the Leafs showed 1/100th of the passion Steve Dangle does in his LFR videos, they'd win the Cup every single year.
The way this team is constructed is a blueprint for failure. Too many similar players and a cap nightmare that makes it impossible to build a good playoff team. The Leafs are a show rather than a work horse.
Jack Youngblood played the '79 NFL playoffs, including the Super Bowl, with a broken fibula. In '97, game 5 of the NBA Finals Jordan had food poisoning (thought to be the flu) and scored 38 points in a win against the Jazz. If Matthews had the reputation of a guy with serious sack I'd be more sympathetic to his "illness". As it is, he's a 6'4", 215 lb. Tin Man. No heart.
Don’t act all disappointed and surprised. I said weeks ago that this team isn’t built for the playoffs. Lack of depth, average defence and average goaltending aren’t conducive with winning the Stanley Cup. That’s not my opinion, as history shows us this! Don’t ignore history, embrace it and learn from it.
I remember you saying that weeks ago you were right
Imagine paying nearly $400 to watch your city’s team get beaten everytime they play at home.
Oh don't worry most people sitting there don't really care too much about 400 bucks.
They are paying way more than $400. Try double that and then many spending over $1000.
400 . think more. especially in the lower bowl.
who's fault is that???????????????????????
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Hyman is everything they are missing. Heart, scoring ability, work ethic.
I love that Bryan Hayes is finally becoming a big name in this space. Great to see. Keep it up.
Hayes is spot on. Give him the GM JOB
Where honesty in anything is hard to find today, I appreciate this gentleman telling the truth.
Bruins in 5 boys
We want Florida! LOL
At this point I hope so
You know it's bad when the SN score had "BOS WINS SERIES" after the buzzer
@@baueranthony54 lol
I think Bruins in 6 probably. But if its Bruins in 5, I wouldn't be surprised either. I'm thinking the Leafs put in a real effort for Game 5 and eek out a win, but still lose the series. We'll see. Unless there's a dramatic, radical change in playstyle, there is no chance the Leafs win this series. The Bruins just have a superior strategy, superior goaltending, superior coaching, etc.
Hayes has really grown on me recently. Even if i disagree with him, i like his straightforward approach, honesty, and willingness to call out this franchise! Good for him!
There's always next year for the Leafs, Since 67 its always next,next,next year.
Same goofs crying now will be the 1st ones buying a new Leaf Jersey and hat next season.
And yet every time the Laughs have a good season, their fans have amnesia and think something big is coming in the playoffs. Teams that win the cup don't load up on four stars, they have depth, something Toronto can't afford in the salary cap era.
I was okay with them keeping the core together for one more run, but I was pissed when they re-signed Keefe. Is he a head coach for any other team???
LOL oh how they've forgotten SO many of the losses - the Zamboni driver, it was 4-1 (Boston), it was 3-0 (Columbus), it was 3-1 (Montreal).... so many losses to choose from ....
Wonder if Mathews got scratched out of the 3rd period for chewing out Marner in the 2nd period as Mathews is probably still upset with Marner for playing terrible especially during the last many games of the season which helped stop Mathews from scoring his 70th goal and probably getting a bonus check and some perks.
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Bud...where have you been? When did Marner play well? I know...he sets up goals, has a few of his own IN THE REGULAR SEASON as long as he can play pond hockey. Come play-offs, he becomes Marmer-the-Friendly-Ghost! This is NOT news! Shanahan/Keefe should be fired BEFORE game 5.
Eeehhhhh....it was Nylander who chewed out Marner and possibly even Matthews. Get facts straight dude.
@@matsinilsson9578 how do know mathews didnt chew him out in the dressing room when the cameras arent on you.
Funny thing is by start of next season they’ll have made no substantial changes again and fans will again think “this is the year”.
I mean it is pretty obvious at this point after getting 8 differenent support casts for the big 4, like 15 different goalies, big guys, smaller guys, they tried everything. But every year the leafs stars get outplayed by the other teams stars. They are talented regular season guys but it has been 3 years longer than it should have ever been with this group.
That’s a great point, Brian.
Hayes is going down as one of the best
this was absolutely embrassing Do they even care?
No, they do not.
The big 4 got paid, that's what they care about.
As I said before, the Maple Leaf is a first-round team.
Drai puts up 17 points in 5 games against the Flames on 1 leg, 2 years ago. Matthews leaves the game with an upset tummy 😂😂😂
Leave him alone! He's on his period.
@@stephenp.6395 😂😂 Lil bro had cramps😂
I don’t ever want to see Samsonov take the ice in blue and white again. Honestly I feel the same way about Marner and Tavares too, even though I know that’s not gonna happen.
damn as an islander fan i thought we had it bad
What do you think of Patrick Roy behind the bench?
@@AlexVachon the Leafs would KILL to have Patrick Roy over Sheldon Keefe. Can we trade Marner, Keefe, Samsonov and Tavares for Patrick Roy as a coach? Like I think that's not a bad deal.
@@AlexVachon i think hes alright...i probably have the same feeling as when barry first became the islanders coach.
Parade Shanahan down Bay He's the biggest loser in the organization. The mastermind behind this perpetual embarrassment
And get Hannah Waddingham to wake behind him, ringing a bell and saying "shame" over and over...
Leafs are a good skilled team for regular season which keeps fans in seats. But to win playoffs against Boston require more than skills. You need to get bruised and come out with the puck in the corners and along the boards. That means sactifice. Domi was the only guy willing to do that last night. Rest of them are chokers. Look at tavares, what a sando.
It all went south when they traded Kyle for Lou
Shanahan went with a hipster over a real hockey guy in Mark Hunter & then had the audacity to say it was always going to be Kyle when he clearly made it out like it was a two man race for the gig at first. How’s that advanced stats approach goin Brendan? Fckin goof
That was definitely the start.
Just realized this is like the 10th vid I've watched today about the leafs losing ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ it!!
The lack of effort is such a surprise. Leafs are always working hard...said no one ever!
You can't teach heart and passion but you can draft it. Some KEY players don't hate losing...enough.
In between periods there must have been an explosion And Mathews BAILED ON THE TEAM
BS. The doctors pulled him out of the game. He’s not the issue in this series other than not being 100%.
No need to wait for the outcome of game 5. It's over. This organization needs a total make over, period! Fire the whole management including Shanahan, Treliving and a coaching staff, bring in competent individuals with a solid reputation and start all over again.
It’s nearly impossible to build a well-rounded championship lineup with the core four increasingly dominating the payroll. ✔️
I don’t think you can cite “there’s history on the side of the leafs” and your reference point is a series they lost in historic fashion
Those leafs playoffs mediocrity records will never be beat
"Leaf fans are numb to it" yeah thats about right although it was entertaining watching that poodle 16 throw his toys in the 2nd . What a child.
“Hurt the legacy of this group”? What legacy? Their consistent underperformance? Their inability to get up for big games? Their reluctance to play as if they really want to win? The Shanaplan has been a disaster. Dubas’ salary structure has crippled this team for years to come. They’re a mid-level team who get consistently outplayed and out-coached when the games matter. Their “legacy” is one of losing.
You forgot their inability to defend two and three goal leads ...that is also a big part of this team's legacy.
As a leaf fan I saw this coming from Pre Season 🐈⬛, Goodbye Shanahan Keefe and Samsonov and the chances of Re Signing Marner are slim to none ✌️
Its hilarious how 5 guys make 75% of the salary cap were so ineffective. Losing to Boston in playoffs since 1959 is as certain as the changing of the seasons. Marchand only makes $7MM per year and look what he did. Compare that to what you pay for Matthews.
poor matthews, i didnt realize choking was classified as an illness in the leafs organization
he has the Bruin Flu.
The entire coaching staff will be fired after this series. Guaranfuckingteed.
Can’t even blame Samsonov these playoffs. Score goals for your goalie goddamit.
Bryan is an absolute beaut. No minced words. Exactly what needs to be said. Glad he's getting more TV time.
I watched the NYI play a helluva game in a must win situation and pull it out. I then watched TB do the same and I said to my dad what are the chances The Leafs in the same situation as those other 2 look completely irrelevant and lay an egg. He said that is exactly what they will do.
What about the Buffalo 9-3 game earlier this season?
How does Sheldon Keith have the balls to say it wasn’t because of our effort level you were out coached out played Reeves should never be on the ice you put in the same goalie that lost the last two games and you kept putting JT out on power Sheldon WTF🤮👎🏼⛳️🍁🍁⛳️
Get Sundin to replace Shanahan
How about MARK MESSIER OR WAYNE GRETZKY
@@charleskletter8974I'm good with Wayne not Messier
What do any of them know about being a team President?
@@larrywolfe2509 Sundin loves the team CLASS ACT learned from Quinn Burns Dryden he's perfect and Toronto respects him
@@charleskletter8974Jim Rutherford and Mark Hunter
And it just happened to be the game I was at the third game I’ve ever been to in the last 18 years
I am not a leafs fan but I really expected leafs to at least make round 2 with core been more mature. this looks like huge step back from last couple of season when they slowly progressed. I kind of expect it to get better when they get rid of tavares contract.
Matthews isn’t ill. Maybe mentally ill but not ill. He just left the building and disappeared. He just went to hang out with Justin Bieber try on new dresses.
This dude doesn't hold back. Perfectly explained and honest
I agree. you had the whole year to prepare and keefe, management and the team still don't know a strategy on how to play in the playoffs.
Yes, Leafs fans are pissed about the playoff performance now, but next regular season everything is yet again forgotten when another player is in contract negotiations and people go all "pay the man" mode and wanting the player to win the negotiations based on everything else than playoff performance.
The Dallas Cowboys of the NHL. Great regular season team.
how can you say this was the worst loss??? they have so many losses to chose from
What legacy are you talking about.
Media made legacy.
Legacies don’t have to be positive
@@Doomroy990 you must be one of those leafs fans
@@oilerssixpack2629 not a leafs fan at all 😂 I’m saying he’s referring to their legacy as playoff disappointments
We need to give Tavares a 7-year extension at 14.000.000 million a season to be the captain of this team also I think Marner was great tonight scoring and all he deserves a new contract for 8 years at 15.000.000 million a season and Samsonov was great between the pipes, and he needs a new contract extension at 15.740.000 a season.
14.000.000 million and 15.000.000 million isn't what you think it is 😄
Tavares will have to be like Spezza, Giordano & Simmer and take league minimum if he wants his team to do anything in the playoffs moving forward PERIOD and he knows it !!!
Dubass? Is that you?
Tavares should be traded along with MITCH MARNER…you need a winning coach and front office to build correctly. Not showing up on the ice is a good reason
It's absolutely crazy how good the Maple Leafs make my Bruins look. Coming into this series I had Toronto winning it in 6. My Bruins looked weak at the end of the season. ✌️😎
Brian Hayes just said everything, All Leaf fans have been saying for years. Finally media is getting the big picture.
team defense zone coverage transition to sharp offense passing for scoring chances?
The snot that was supposedly added looks more like the sniffles.
Up 4-1 with 10 minutes left against Boston will forever haunt me.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha maple laugh fans. Love it year after year 💋
What is this 57 years now lol
@@scottyheav it’s just year after year consistency from this joke moustached team /:
I predict Leafs win in Boston and lose game 6 in To.
Thats actually a really good bet lol
me too. They can't play in front of the fans but do great in other barns. It's strange.
Is Swayman not starting? If he is for get about it lol
My guess as well
Team Work is the 'key'. Last year's rally was much more exhilarating and rallied Toronto Fans, however unpaid debts to expensive hot dog stands, the term "All for one, and one for all." Good luck Leaf's, no salt about it!
The fanbase will never be incredibly upset they show their stupidity every year by supporting this organization
Yup they burn their Jerseys and hats in disgust only to buy new ones next year.
I think they’re just desperate. Another team in the region would be very useful for the leafs.
...so Bryan Hayes, tell us what you REALLY think..
Well not as devastating as 2013, 4-1 lead in the third and lose in overtime. Basically resulted in the dismantling of that version of the team. The Gretzky Loss was worse of course but only cause no one has gotten past it. The Leafs had a 3-2 lead on Boston in 2019 and then lost 4-2 and a pitiful 5-1 in the final game versus Boston . This version of the Maple Leafs has produced a lot of really terrible playoff hockey. They are the team that lets the other team have their amazing Stanley Cup playoff moments. They Lost 4-3 to Columbus on OT in Game 3 in 2020 after putting up a 3-0 Lead. Pierre Luc Dubois had his only moment of greatness scoring a hat-trick including the overtime winner to win the game 4-3. Joonas Korpisalo shut out the leafs twice in that series in game one and in the clinching game 5. The Leafs had a 3-1 lead in games versus a weak offensive Habs team in 2021 and lost the last three games of that series. Two in overtime and the last one a pitiful 3-1 fold at home. Up 3-2 on Tampa Bay the next year only to lose in seven. Next year They won a series but then got swept at Home to lose in 5. That first 4-2 loss in Toronto was unforgivable. So yes this game at home where they lose 4-1 is bad but it's just a tiny part of the rich tapestry depicting the story of this over paid, underperforming team. One of the worst losses Sure, but it's in the mix with a lot of competition.
Hayse B the Captain of Leafs Nation nails it again
I don’t understand why the leafs can’t figure it out. They don’t look at what other teams do and works out for them. Instead they beat to their own drum and it’s not in tune clearly. Other teams when goaltending is a problem, address it. This was actually done when Anderson was in net but they didn’t address the next point. Defense. Does it need to be elaborated on? This hasn’t been addressed for the Leafs in about a decade now. Year in year out, soft defense, poor coverage yet band aided during the regular season because the offense puts up 4 a game. Veteran leadership. It’s always nice to bring guys on your team who have won it before to help guide the team on what needs to be done to get the cup, or even a deep play off run but the leafs sign, Thornton, Marleau, Tavares for example who have won a whole bunch of nothin in the playoffs. Then you see other players like Mackinnon before he got his cup, and even after, how dialed in he is and when he doesn’t win his off-season is so set on getting back there and I feel like you don’t see that drive with AM, marner, nylander or JT. What do I know though. I’m not a Leaf’s fan to be honest but to me it seems like the definition of insanity. Doing the same thing and expecting a different result. Seems like a club that can’t get out of its own way.
They really need to reevaluate the captaincy on the leafs
The Bruins Defense get the 3 stars, a credit to the great coaching..give credit where it is due
Yes. Bruins defence is terrific.
They came back in those series to push game 7 and still lost
Dissent on the Make Beliefs bench? Matthews was trash talking Nylander about the upcoming golf game. Marner snaps because he forgot to make a tee time for Wednesday. The Curse of Harold Ballard will haunt the Loafs for as long as the National Hockey League exists.
Excellent commentary. The truth hurts.
They're no longer the Maple Leafs, but the Maple Laughs😂😂😂😂😂
They’ve always been the laughs haha
You are 60 years too late with that one
Hayes bringing the fire!
Brian hayes with the hot takes