rain has been described as “a kid wanting a pet but grows bored of it pretty fast” in relation to how he has treated kpop groups he managed. but what exactly was wrong with rain's management of these groups that made kpop fans hate him so much? stick around for the truth, and make sure to subscribe to kookielit for more kpop news and videos.
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Never sign with a company that is run by another artist that is also active.
Noted 😂
Not always, JYP is also active but focuses on his artists before him. It's only that rain doesn't give priority to his groups more than his career .
@@hvcb270Not sure but I think JYP is not the one who run the company, he said in A2K that how do Gina feels when she trained in JYP cuz he don’t know how it works. Mean that he has become the artist under JYP, Idk im so confused on that ep.
@YenVlog he stepped down as the CEO in 2011 (maybe) But he still an exclusive producer and the creator like Yg
@@hvcb270 yes but he was the one who started the company, so it's quite impressive
This usually happens when music CEOs are still trying to grow their own career. The reason other musician CEOs do well is because they focused on their artists being known as the best not themselves. Rain is just wanting extra income. Even JYP who is still making music doesn’t compete directly with his artists. He has comebacks as his original self, he’s not trying to impress the new generation.Rain is still doing varieties promoting himself like new, JYP promotes as a sunbae.
I don't even think it is even for an extra income. It is reported he is worth $57M USD. At this point it is just plain narcissism on the part of Rain.
It’s a shame cuss i was really starting to like CIIPHER
Lol 😂😂😂 you should talk to got7,wonder girls,miss A even stray kids or now low-key itzy because to put jyp on a pedestal is delusional at best 😂😂😂😂
JYP himself lowkey hates his artists specifically male groups. He cancels them out. There is a time when a member ask to hear his music but JYP just listens 5 secs of every songs and denied all. What an idiot! How do you know that it is good or bad when you dont even know what's inside the song. Im sure he just listens the tune and close it after. Je way peh deserves the hate by the people and he should just fck off somewhere.
@@maximocool5798for REAL tell them 😂😭
I’m a kpop fan and I don’t hate him but then again the only thing I know him for is WHEN I WAKE UP IN MA ROOM
I was hoping someone would make this comment!!!😂😂
And Rainism🤣🤣
Haha same
Omg same😂
don't forget the "i wanna be a bad boi i wanna be a bad bad boi" rainism
There is no hate to rain but more a disappointment. if you wanted to focus on your career don't make something when you know it's not going to last because of your needs. there is nothing wrong wanted to do things for yourself but putting people in your ways so you can be the center of attention is no.
agreed. He should not mess with things he can't handle
He literally destroyed the careers of those boys 😭😭😭
Well, he did marry high up the hog so I guess he has to continue to be successful to keep "princess Kim." I don't dislike the guy but... focus on your career if that's what you want; don't make false promises you either can't or won't keep!😒
Disappoinment comes from Anger...
Rain is like "I want y'all to be famous... but not more than me" to all his groups 💀 Also joining CUBE, who had BEAST mind you -- who was MBLAQ's rival back in 2009 was craaaaazy
y’all can’t understand how iconic mblaq were. they only had bops and their appeareances in variety shows was so funny lool infeel like a granny i miss them
True, they were really famous at one point but suddenly vanished. Now this explains what happened to them.
I really miss them too, they were the ones who made me like kpop so much till this day
I miss them!! Mir was my bias .. I actually still follow him on insta
@@stelamoreira7451 They were my first bias group.
My first kpop concerts were MBLAQ 😢😢😢
The problem with Rain is that HE still wants to be famous. He cannot sit in the background and let his artists shine. He NEEDS to also be the FACE and be putting music out there. He cannot simply focus on the group but he is still focusing on making himself famous out there.
He's no different from jyp
This is how the world knows only Jackie Chan, who has "NO successors" by design.
@@edm5378is jackie chan a k pop manager?😂
@@multifandomclub885 because Rain was under JYP , some "like father like son"-kinda way but seriously Rain at least is hot and has fans, while JYP just annoys the hell outta me and the world
Nothing wrong with that though but at least do not forget that you have artists under your bucket that needs attention. Then, I remember I had an argument with a fan of Rain saying we should not blame Rain since we don't really know what is happening behind the scenes. Well, the articles about MBLAQ and Ciipher and what I saw in Boys Planet through Keita Terazono do not lie.
This video is perfectly timed! I was at Kcon LA 2023 and I was so confused when RAIN got no love. There was very little cheering and dancing. Most people actually sat for his set. It wasn’t till after Kcon I found out that he was black waved. I was a big fan of MBLAQ but I had no idea they were under RAIN. I always wondered what happened to MBLAQ and this explains everything well. I respect RAIN as being an OG in the Kpop community and that he inspired many idols but I can see why everyone is upset with him.
i was there too, and yeah i wonder why kcon even invited him and he accepted lol
@@lulu_0763 with the public anger atm he rlly set himself up accepting tht....
Same, I didn’t understand why ppl started hating RAIN and I loved Mblaq and have always wondered what happened to them as they just disappeared after dropping mirror 😭
Same,i started stanning k-pop since 3rd gen So i didn't understand why they hate rain
I used to respect him but it went all down the drain after knowing the truth, well i mean i had a hunch all a long after ciipher debuted that history was gonna happen again especially with the way he would interact with ciipher, though i was overthinking things but .... Look were we are now
This is exactly the same issue with the artists that Beyoncé is handling. As the other people said, never expect success when you are being managed by another artist.
Right?! Like Chloe and Halle deserved more, they have so much potential😢
At least not by an active artist & manager.
I also agree that's why I guess most of the new artists nowadays signs with companies which are not handled by any other artist but also many not so well known companies
Of course because you'll be in the shadows of that artist no matter what expectations and such are really great cause you're following an established artist.
yes that is most likely the scenario.
A good artist doesnt mean one can be good at management of other especially in idol group. I feel so bad for Mblaq and all the other groups
i think this more like, he's really good as a performer and coach, but not in business.
I've known the members very well since Ciipher debuted and besides, what Rain did was just irresponsible.. I missed that, okay so he said "I should have bought a house instead of debuting Ciipher?" This is so disrespectful to the members, Rain is wrong and he's being punished. The members had worked hard and went through difficult paths, they had dreams. But Rain turned them all upside down.
wow he said that? that just made me feel more gross towards him. What an airhead. He let the money get to his head. Gross
That’s awful😟
didn't he say he lost a house worth of investment because the interviewer pressed the question?
OMG he really said that? Gosh. This made me no longer a fan of Rain. If he said those words, why push through with the debut of Ciipher? Just imagine how the members would feel. 😢😢😢 MBLAQ's disbandment is also heartbreaking.
@@UltimateKpopmultistan lee sang min asked Rain how much he invested, Rain replied " the amount of money needed to buy a luxurious house" first see the clip first and then blame...and honestly do you even care about Ciipher or are you just a hater with nothing to do better in life
i don't understand why veteran kpop idols who wants to start their own companies think they're automatically legible to be CEOs. Just because an idol has been in the industry for a long period of time does NOT mean you can run a company. It's all BUSINESS and FINANCE. A more legible person should be someone who knows how the system of the industry works and how to handle money. I think it'd be more fitting if they start out as DIRECTORS first, given their actual previous experience in the industry they would only be focusing on the image and the debuting idols since that is the kind of expertise they would prob have
it's similar to hell kitchen , some guy has some money collected thru years of being an office worker or due to inheriting money -> sees that restaurants do well and they like food -> opens a restaurant .
I think they are seduced by JYP. The guy went from a backup dancer to a star to running one of the top entertainment companies - and he's now worth around $250 million.
@@jamesrawlins735Seduced LOL but i agree with you.
@@jamesrawlins735I agree, they thought everyone could do it. JYP did it but even he stepped down as a CEO at some point and quit handling JYPE artists to focus more on the music aspect of the business. Occasionally writing songs for the girl and boy groups of jype too. Unfortunately for him, being the face of the company, a lot of clueless people still blame him for mismanagement of JYPE artists when he isn't managing them for a long time now.
I remember H.O.T. Tony complaining about SM. He put up his own talent agency and became what he was complaining about. Difference is SM is successful...🤑
A self-centered male idol only caring about himself? Shocking! 😂 To me it sounds like he would get jealous when the groups became popular and ignore them.
Ciipher had so much potential. They produced their 1st album. But all are gone
ciipher*
Not just first but all the 3 mini albums
The problem of all these is rain wants all the spotlight resulting in all these mess and as a CEO she should sit in the background and promote their group properly
MBLAQ was my first ever group when I got into kpop, legends and one of the best, I'm so sad to hear about what they've been through, they have a lot of good music, even the last song they released "Mirror" was good, I don't know if Rain is to blame but we lost real talent
I will never forgive Rain for abandoning MBLAQ... the only boy group I supported...
I don’t really support black ocean, but I hope that this was a wake up call for Rain. I got interested in Ciipher some time in early 2022 if I remember correctly. Mostly because of Keita, who I grew very fond of after watching yg treasure box after becoming a teume in early 2021. When I got interested in Ciipher, was around the same time Keita became my ult bias. But the lack of comebacks and promotions made me uninterested after awhile, and I really never became a fan, but more a casual listener of them. Then now when boys planet happened and Keita was one of the trainees there, it made me very sad, but also hopeful and happy that his incredible talent maybe wouldn’t go to waste. He was my top pick throughout the entirety of boys planet. And now he is getting to debut in EVNNE, with other trainees that didn’t make it in the final lineup of Zerobaseone. I couldn’t be more proud of him❤ It also looks like he might be the leader of EVNNE, which he definitely deserves with his experience in the industry and the many years he was a trainee❤ I also hope nothing but the best for the rest of the members in Ciipher and whatever their future endeavors might be❤
People should just realize that there are 100+ kpop group and only 1 or 2 of them are going to be internationally famous. Potential does not mean they are going to get a big break in the future.
I don't think it's hate..we're just disappointed...he is a smart and talented guy but I don't think being a CEO for kpop group is his thing ..
Suga of BTS once implied he doesn't really want to produce a kpop group despite having all the requered attributes because he will be making decisions on someone, a teenagers' life. Rain should've thought twice before managing those idols because someone's whole career, life dream depended on it.
I totally agree with this comment. Rain is so irresponsible
@@hyunbinsluvrcry about it
I loved MBLAQ so much back then 🥺
I knew this was going to happen when I found out Rain had created a new company and was going to manage a new boy group. Didn’t you learn from before?
People need to realise making a group is same as starting a business. Not everyone have guaranteed success. So I don’t really understand the hate train as so many groups especially in small companies failed in the past.
Oh Gawd!😭. I kept wondering wht the hell happened to cipher? I kept sensing something was off, and found myself wondering if Rain was sabotaging them, I don’t even know y I thought that. they had so much potential. I Kept wondering cant I find anything on them. I was introduced to them on the show master in house, and loved them almost immediately. I feel especially sorry for Tan who has been through so much Already. He didn’t deserve this. I mean Rain’s a great guy. at least on the outside and even brought the group with him to diff shows like all kpop show and the rest. But something just felt and still feels off about the way the guys just fell off the grid. I’m sensing something off about Rain.
In my eyes, he just trying and then losing. That it. People ignore his all out effort and just blame him for everything. Why people not get a mirror and ask themself "do i try to stan this group? What i do for my idols?" None. People ignore them, forget them whrn they are exist but when they disband they blame agency. Not just rain but ALL AGENCY always being blamed by people, everytimes bad happend to the group. All of you forget agency is business??? I feel bad both for the group and rain. Forget me , i just know mblaq and not for the others
im SO mad for what happened to ciipher. he just wasted all their time and efforts. not to mention they're crazy talented, especially the main producers keita tag and won. so mad.
Mblaq will forever be one of my fav groups of all times..😢 i miss them so much..the amazing songs, the hilarious personalities that all of them have that always make me smile especially when watching Hello Baby..🥹🥺 urghh i am still can't accept the fact that they were disbanded too early...😭 I am gonna listening to their songs now..while crying..😢
Ruining people's lives is not funny. If he wants to promote himself more and compete with his own talents he shouldn't sign artists. A CEO leaving for military is just ridiculous, he was too young. After his return he abandoned them and focus on himself because he wasn't stable, idols need to stay relevant. He simply shouldn't start his own company. I can foresee this happening to Kang Daniel's company in future years.
Rain was such a fox when he was younger. My god was that man gorgeous!!!!
MBLAQ were my favorites and im still to this day disappointed in rain because he wasted such a talented group no one will ever become as talented as MBLAQ their music were unique thier mvs had story it was never boring to watch and they were variety shows legends i miss them and the old kpop so much
Yeah..i am very speechless when the news of Lee Joon and Thunder left the group because they are my favs😭 and then boom the group disbanded soon after that..i am sooo upset because the group has soooo many potentials and their songs are soooo good!!😢
i just watched Kwanghee’s youtube show & i was surprised by how good Lee Joon sound
@@leothechonkycat Lee Joon has an amazing voice, even though they joked in the group. That he was the laziest member, it wasn't true. He really worked hard and could have been such a double threat with his acting and singing career
I always felt that the variety show where Cha Eun Woo watches Ciipher wasn’t a “joke” at all. CEW was really pissed at how they were treated. Rain deserves all the funky breath comments he gets.
Can you tell me which variety show?
@@jewljuju I don’t know the name but he’s with a bunch of guys (not Astro).
@@jewljujuMaster in the house
@@jewljujuYou can search Master In The House Rain prank
Rain doesnt really want his groups to be more popular than him...always been that way..jay park the only one who did it right while being active artist
Rain is actually a villain here, he wants money and name, all those talents and career are gone because of him, I think these groups should have fought against rain And should sue him.
Если бы можно было подать в суд за отсутвие мозгов, я бы подал заявление на тебя. Ты никогда не совершал ошибки?Или ты настолько идеален, что имеешь права так о нём говорить?Безобразие.Подумай, прежде чем писать, если есть чем думать. (Переводи теперь, умник)
@@VIETNAMKOTsee what he said he absolutely true why would a CEO want all the spotlight of their groups I am not saying he is a bad guy he is a veteran in the kpop industry but not a qualified CEO/ manager, as a CEO he shouldn't be the one under all the spotlight attending all the events where there group goes , answering questions for them the groups can do it themselves
Rain is definitely a legend in the kpop industry and in acting. But even many legends of all fields have something that they're not good at and Rain is no exception. But even with things not working out for Rain in his management of his companies and artists Rain is still a great guy and a legend in my eyes.
Legend in Kpop I can understand, but his acting is far from legendary, he was in some successful dramas, but they were not successful because of him most of the time. I watched most of his dramas and most of the time I thought that this or that actor could have done equally or better
@@shinitakunai1145 i watched the last Drama just for Kimbum , for me, Rain's acting is cringey (this is just me) and it's like he's stuck on his Full House days
I wouldn't call him a legend in acting.
Rain wasn't bad at managing, he chose to put himself in shows instead of his own groups. That's pretty bad considering trainees abandon their futures and have a blank for several years in order to debut. Rain actually debuted them so they wasted additional 2-3 years after debut. Rain knows this. It's almost as if Rain finds it funny to let them experience a spotlight for once, then take it away. They had no comebacks, no shows, no fan meets, nothing. Worst is Rain replaced their appearances, which is simply laughable. Rain knows if he ruins them, they might become unemployed youngsters with no post-secondary academic record maybe cleaning toilets, or might become smalltime nobodies in the entertainment industry scraping by. Basically, this wasn't poor managing, this was Rain having fun toying with the group.
@@shinitakunai1145no no in acting. He can only show anger 😅😅I didn't like his acting since full house😂😂
Noone knows the real truth in these issues. I still like Rain
Rain needs to decide..Is he a performer OR Is he a Producer/Agent!! Fans WANT NEW TELENT TO CHEER ON!!🙃
The same can be said for JYP & he's still producing music
I don't hate him his still a good guy (for many), yet not good as a ceo/manager. He can't manage his own company on his own, he lost his focus and put his ambitions firsts. Maybe this is not his path, i feel bad for mblaq because they are legends who lost they're shine. And there's madtown who has a bigger potential to dominate the scene but sadly they missed manage. And lastly ciipher, i'm so sad for the boys. Hope they never give up they're dreams.
...Wasn't he cheating on his wife? (I'm not sure)
@@mikaghajanyan5565 What does this have to do with the issue of bad management?
@@mikaghajanyan5565what are you bringing his wife into this
@@raephillips2046 I was asking a question, people
@@mikaghajanyan5565 ye but even when the person did wrong we don’t talk about their family members 🌻
Make a video on how kpop fans themselves are also villains 😂
Shut up, you don't know what he's doing?
I love Rain. What the heck are you talking about ?!?!
I've known this for ages that rain was hated by most fans in the music industry but I can't point out the reason. Now I know it all. Lol. I've seen his performance in his old songs before but there is no cheer at all or fans just dead silent on him.
rain should just stop producing and managing groups if hes going to get bored easily. he's a great celebrity but a terrible CEO, period.
I hope he stops debuting boy groups if he can’t handle or do something about it
Still a fan of Rain ❤ But honestly how many views did Ciiphers first mv had?? People don't appreciate new groups anymore and when there is a slight chance of blaming others then they start with their blame game... Despite blaming others at first watch their music videos and then talk
Right. I said the same thing to people. How are y'all pretending y'all care about Ciipher now, when y'all paid them no attention in the first place. Groups who get little to no attention get abandoned 90% of the time
Ohhh kissing that man's ass it's really bad for y'all
Right, marketing and producing albums need money. So many small and mid size agency's Idol group had one or two comebacks then dissapear. No one blames on their CEO right? Rain is just a public figure so these people have a target to throw arrows into. Rain might not manage them best, but every opportunity that he tried to give need a cost. When those cost didn't add up... It's either continue struggling or say bye2. BTS was almost disbanded while filming I Need You (they had 2 bad album sales), they decide to continue, but not all Idol Group is as lucky as them.
MBLAQ was the group that got me into K-POP, I was so sad they didn't make it. 😭🤧
So disappointed in Rain. He, out of all people, should know about the struggles as a trainee/raising star trying to make it in this harsh industry. I was there from Rain’s beginnings under JYP since the early 2000’s and I saw how hard he worked and the support he received under JYP helped propelled him in his career. SMH…i don’t know how, but I hope he bounces back from this…
I don’t even think he manages at all his probably just the face of the company The only thing I don’t like is him sending himself to kcon instead of his groups, I still respect him for his success as a actor/idol I feel like his just a handsome jyp
Handsome JYP actually makes so much sense😭
This is not how it works. Rain is not the promoter of KCON so he doesn't decide who can or cannot perform. He was there because he was invited.
@@akosvarga7881 HE is very well known and have power very easily he can make his group make it to kcon don't act fool here
Rain with his influence can ask or heavily suggest that his groups perform at Kevin the same way he asked variety shows to promote them
This sounds maybe like a Rain doesn't like to feel outshined kinda thing and age is not on his side now either!
After i read some article about that black ocean thing, i try to search Rain Kcon stage performance and its not that bad. Some fans still singing Rain song. After that, i try to see how much people give like (not the views) at some Ciipher, Mblaq, TwoX MV and its just so-so. Yes they have some potential but did their fans can compete with others big fandom groups nowdays?
Welp none of his groups were well managed sooo.... I mean... Like self explanatory
@@AgustinaRD5 u should take a look other older group or idol from big company. At least some member of older group will try to appeal more to public by themself when their agency seems not do anything. U can see how many idol being recognize for variety show or other field right?
@@Daniellabj Variety shows and other fields…. Yeah the ones you need to be invited or your company needs to pay for you to be there, those you mean? uhmm yeah maybe if their ceo invested in them and didn’t want to put himself over his artist they could of have done that i guess
@@AgustinaRD5 Maybe this is why some CEO never go to with idol again after that Master in the House episode (or others variety show). Their fans will never (rarely) appreciate anw....
This is so true, after all managing a group was also a business decision, it need money money money, Ciipher got 2 mini albums that both didn't do to well, should Rain & his company keep shouldering the cost?
I remember Rain playing a one character movie called Ninja Assassin.
And he did a great job, didn’t he ?! 💖🦄👍
@@deliastefanescu1908 damn straight he is. 🔥🔥
@@richy1051 👍🔥
I knew of Madtown and Ciipher, only a few songs, but still. I remember voting for I Like You when it debuted. I didn’t know they were gone🥲
Ciipher's entire discography is gold, not a single skippable song.
i think the main cause of internal conflict between idol members is selfishness. working together as a team all the time isnt easy, but its impossible if theyre competing with their own teammates.
A company didn't make a group right if the members are competing against each other. The reason groups like Ateez exo seventeen BTS and stray kids exist and seemingly have good a tight friendships/relationships is because they were trained to work as a team not fight each other for $$. They bounce off each other's skills and when they do solos they go with their own talents and style on things not actively try to step on each other's toes
I love Rain!
To me Rain is a better performer than singer. His commanding presence, dancing, and style are what actually stand out. He needs to let the whisper singing go. He should have left on a respected high note. This is not how he wants his music career to end.
I was at the K-Con concert and I thought that he got lots of love! He, of course did not get as much celebration as did Zerobasin( understandably because there were mostly younger people) I am not sure about was is or isn’t truth here…but I have video showing LOTS of love for Rain…be careful not to judge unless we know everything
This guy is just shady. Idk why he thought he could make a company, he can barely keep his career together. He’s like the Korean version of Diddy
The one who produced Danity Kane???
That is so sad for these talented kids wo worked their butt off to get where they are, only to be let down completely by their company.
MBLAQ was my first K pop group. The way they were mistreated and neglected was painful to see.
He wanted to be JYP since rain came from JYP entertainment where you have popular idol groups and still fame yourself but it’s not working for him that way he needs to fully invest and step aside
I still remember when rain and kin tai hee doing a house interview, kim tai hee keeps poking her husband for fun then out of nowhere rain slap her hands so hard then remember theres camera , and touch the hand of kim tai hee and said he is just joking
'Every kpop fan' doesn't hate Rain
yo, i hate rain
😅 He means nothing to younger kpop fan especially inter fan who started following 3rd -4th gen idols.
@@masterball7196 I started being a kpop fan at the start of 3rd generation and love me some Rain 😊😊😊
I agree. I love me some Rain 🌧
@@hyunbinsluvrwhy! 😢
Everyone is learning in this life!As life goes on, along the way, sometimes ego, innocent mistakes are plausible and unavoidable. Deep gossips, negative thoughts will ruin people. The stars are always the brightest light in the darkness, but they do not know what they're missing or need to improve, because all along they're the guiding stars. Wish Kookielit will become a helping channel to bridge goodwills! Best wishes for Rain! Success and a strong content heart to overcome all the tribulations!
I think the hate is well deserved. RAIN had a choice between promoting himself and promoting the group he managed, and he chose himself. Everyone knows unless you are apart of the big 3, becoming popular and STAYING popular is hard. It’s just disrespectful he didn’t do ANYTHING (no advertising, no solo activities, no strong online presence, etc.) with cypher while they were probably watching in grief as their careers faded.
Rain left his company and thought the major share holder JYP would take care of them.wbile he was in the Army which is required. Sorrybut Rain screwed up, he should have got a management company and PR to handle the group and support them Rain should have taken care of them because he would get the backlash.
It’s not easy to be managed by idol
I think the commenters don't know about Ciipher. I've been a Ciipher fan since debut, there's nothing the man (Rain) didn't do. He brought his sons from competitions to competitions, even if we were wondering about the history of Cb, he tortured the members by ignoring our comments, you know. It left us wondering! We didn't even know if one of our members was alive?? Then suddenly 4 of our members left!! What are the idiots defending him going through? HE NEVER FULFILLED ITS RESPONSIBILITY! AND NOW WE CLUE'S WON'T FORGET HİM.
He was going through the hardships before, why did he do that to these kids??? He really is selfish.
I'm kinda sad about what happened because he is the first person who made me into kpop 😢
I barely knew he was related to MBLAQ back then and tbh sort of started to resent him from the "UNIT" era and then again Cipher happened :/ I can't trust him with any group anymore
I am a Kpop fan and I dont hate Rain. Much respect for him as a performer.
I really loved mblaq! Still listening to their songs. I wonder what the guys doing now, any infos???
@@hyunbinsluvrthey aren't talking abt ciipher tho-
@@hyunbinsluvrop was talked about mblaq. . .
@@wooyorollit shows different in translation, I misunderstood
Lee joon is acting - He gets invited to variety shows sometimes - he's still very funny Mir has a youtube channel and was invited as a fixed guest in a variety show G.O too has a KZhead channel - he and mir sometimes makes videos together - he's married Thunder recently was a dance mentor in a survival show - he's dating mimi of gugudan Sengho's acted in a few musicals and recently he had a song with a u-kiss member
Yup..i understand this kind of scenario. I RememberED in what Suga said in his show that BTS likely to disband before bec. the company don't have money when they are starting
I love rain and all he does. ❤
The lost potential of all these artists is what makes me disappointed!!!
He should just step down as ceo if he still wants to be heavily active in the industry. Kpop has become so cutthroat that without a focused and passionate ceo, groups, even the company will fail
It’s a shame because I was really starting to like CHIIPHER
ciipher* 🤍
My ciipher...
Whatever he's done is very wrong but kpoppies do not need to deny the impact he's had on kpop. Back in the day he was really big and is one of the richest kpop artists too. And this is why he shouldn't have competed with the groups he managed cuz he was big already. They deserved attention and promotion.
He wanted to be his mentor JYP so bad but failed miserably
Saw clips of his performance and people were definitely cheering and singing along Just the haters keep pushing that no one cheered because it makes themfeel better for some odd reason
There’s people who have uploaded his full performance. If you look in the audience it’s definitely darker than if you compare it to Taemin, or really any other artist who was there, even the lesser known ones. Every artist is going to still have fans no matter what they do, so of course he’ll still get cheers and singing, but there was definitely less feed back compared to other performers. I didn’t hear any booing though, so I think the articles exaggerated what happened but it was a lot darker during his performance than everyone else’s
@@BreakofDawn I mean I didn't say everyone cheered. I'm sure some people didn't sing or cheer especially since most of them probably didn't know him or his songs. But these articles definitely over exaggerated what happened trying to make it seem like he's hated by everyone. And the commenters just add to the lies for fun
Well Rain should know that he had destroyed dreams of many young people under him trying to make it in the industry so the black ocean was well deserved. Don't do it again Rain.
I'm not a Ciipher fan, more of a kpop fan that watches ton of variety and entertainment shows. One thing for sure, whenever there is Ciipher promoting their group, there will Rain tagging along.. Like bro I want to see these rookies being themselves in the show.. Not seeing you introducing them.
People who are saying rain wants money is not true because him and he wife has money look being a CEO and artist sometimes is hard he just needs better writers for his groups or see if the groups he signed can write music because I like some of his groups and still listen to their music he just needs a better team
I love kpop and I love him! To each their own 😂😂😂😂
This story reminds me so much of jyp😂
Rain still wanted to be an idol dream, he didn't have
MBLAQ will always be one of my fave groups 😢😢😢 miss them and their chemistry together ❤ Rain is a great performer but it doesn’t look good how his company fumbled MBLAQ like that
Ikr?? I miss them sooo much too..😭 their songs are all good and i just love all of their personalities..one of my fav groups of all times🥺
I’ve heard that the crowd did him pretty damaged during his performance in KCON-LA. Now if there is any Boys group wants to sign their contracts with his agency, it would be a big challenge to make themselves a name, seems like he has a problem with managing his company and he still can’t let go of his past success as a K-pop idol. IMO he has to step back and only focusing on one thing. He just can’t fund himself to gain spot light by using income of these boys.
His problem is his is friends with JYP and look at how he treat their artists. Both of them are Narcissistic.
at least jype can manage their artist and many succesfull idol from jype #twice #straykids #itzy #2pm #day6 etc
Rain disappointed big time. I don’t even feel angered or troubled they gave him a black ocean. To me it just seems he f**ed around and found out what fans are capable of when justice isn’t served.
Справедливо будет, если ты не будешь ничего писать.Я разачаровываюсь в людях всё больше и больше. РЕЙН не робот он ЧЕЛОВЕК и имеет право совершать ошибки.И вы знаете причину их распада, что бы судить?О боже...Как будто ты имеешь право судить его, когда ничего сам не добился. У меня есть деньги.Если я бы смог, купил бы вам возможность подумать адекватно.Вы вообще, хоть что то умеете, исключая то, что вы открываете свой рот не по назначению?
Rain might be on the new idol show Asia Super Young by YOUKU and TVB Hong Kong I think it already started recording 😅
good , this man needs to take responsiblity
I first heard of Rain when he stared at Speed Racer. Then I came upon to listen his music. He was a international global icon but movies like Ninja Assassin and The Prince bombed in the box office which limited his time in the US market. Remixing Gang revived his career. From JYP to R.A.I.N Company hasn’t worked out at all though despite he’s still the king of KPOP today ❤.
He played people's life as a puppet......
The only CEO artist that actually promote their artist better i think is jay park
He is what all kpop idol shouldn't be he should be working for Chippendales
He's a judge rn on Asia Super Young, a Chinese idol survival reality show.
I'm so sad for mblaq & ciipher... they had so much potential... :'(
Not into boy groups but after watching this video about what happened, rain really deserved to be scorned upon. He destroyed so many dreams.