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Hate Rodrigo was one of the worst PR decisions of all time in kpop. WHY did her company think that was a good idea???
Real, it could've been a hit but the title made the song seem like a hate song
They could've named it Oliva
It was her idea
@@simonemg23 but the company approved it so
@@katye_kpopyeah, both her and the company are in this... thats a grown women with stupid management, none of them are innocent lmao
I HATE how they get upset because they dance with dancers, but they never said anything when Hybe sexualizes Niki as a minor, Niki is literally the most sexualized idol of the 4 generation, and no one is raising their voice for him, Everyone is looking for excuses to defend the sexualization of minors now, engene is one of the most disgusting fandom in kpop, I feel bad for niki, from day one he was seen as a sex object being underage, it's sad, it's disgusting.
Pathetic fans are just jealous of the female dancers, none of them complained about Fever choreo and Niki was actually a minor when it was released
@@yasminchan7425 exactly 😖
Well it’s bc the fans sexualizes Niki as well too 🫤
Literally had a song called dive into you with very ambiguous lyrics during iland and had minors in it 💀
It's fine when it's female minors, but when fans can't imagine themselves with the idols, then it's a problem.... 🙄😮💨
Who said we are leaving the fandom???? We still support ATEEZ.
Ya!! We're not going anywhere!! TRUE fans are ALWAYS loyal....😄🎶✌
True this is just fake
cause they think atinys are toxic like other fandoms
They literally just said SOME people decided to leave the fandom. You and others still support them but then there’s other people that don’t anymore. I don’t know why that’s so confusing
@@beany1944how are they talking crap?
Bite Me without the female dancers just feel so incomplete but Enhypen still ate the solo dance on the tour
Fr
Enhypen should not be on this list seeing all the records Bite Me broke....
Yeah, it's a bummer. But at the same time, it makes sense because traveling with all of those dancers for one song to perform on their tour seems illogical.
Sorry but the San one was slightly wrong....he's did NOT lose any fans NOR did anyone hated him for his mistake. Some Indian fans (as myself)were cool abt his mistake but some felt that he should be made aware of the matter and not repeat the same mistake in the future. It wasn't a big deal guys! We love you 3000 Sannie!!
Yep!
Exactly, these channels love to make drama out of everything just for views. Using these stupid clickbaits.
Whats about his birthday live?
@nisoo_5429 he had a birthday live a day later? The news. He had some hate comments because of it.
@@beomgyusfangirl9023 Thats why i said that, he was hated on his bday live because of it
san is def not hated he did a mistake yes but kq apologized and fans are not mad anymore
San started getting hated on his birthday. They made him feel hated on his birthday! I'm very disappointed with San and Yunho about this. There is no justification for what they did. It just personally hurt to see him being so hated after watching him grow as an idol. We love you, San.
It was not fans who hated on San, just random haters saw possibility. Ofc some fans were disappointed, maybe some of them don't support Ateez now, but hate on San and Yunho from them - no.
Was it hate or criticism?
@@SamGVL08probably Criticism but the fans are too sensitive and disguised it as hate.
It wasn't hate it was geniune criticism.. fans always tries to brush it all off as being baseless hate
@@SamGVL08From the fans it was criticism, they wrote about disappointment, ignorance, an apology, but haters (non-fans cuz it was obvious they know Ateez, but don't know the members themselves) wrote nasty things about San and planned ruin his bday live.
As an Indian I can tell , even Indian ppl themselves are racist :') Atleast ateez released a apology statement i personally think they should be more careful about their actions as they are gaining popularity now . Edit :- I am not trying to protect ateez, they made a mistake make them realise their mistake instead of hating on them
Every country has racist people but still what happened it happened
yeah! and also, that song is a really popular old song from a really conservative country such as korea, like Ateez didn't mean any harm!
I am not trying to protect ateez here nor hurt anyone. I am just saying that they should careful about their actions because some ppl starts hating them on unnecessary things and if any artist makes a mistake make them realise their mistake don't hate them .
@@Dev-cw7cnwhat about the lack of knowledge of the mainland indians about the northeastern states and how they don't even know we exist.
@@Dev-cw7cn girl💀 don't call ignorant the people that have cultural differences that aren't the same as your country for not being concentrated on a point of view, nobody knows what's offensive and what's not for every country.
For the ateez one, the majority of destiny I saw is pretty accepting since mbc and kq had posted an apology and how the fandom handled this situation quickly so the company was made aware. I do believe personal apology is better but we can't really expect it since it's the company's decision. Ofc there are people who "threatened" to leave the fandom but very few actually did (and some bounced back in immediately). ATEEZ's growth this cb is bigger than ever.
south korea is SO much more racist than this. especially as a desi hindu they're so stereotyping against hindus and our beliefs it's no joke. most of them are uneducated and if people mad over him making fun of another culture it is justified. yall cant blame anybody for feeling offended.
@@chanosaurusbut calling him racist solely for that reason and sending him death threats even on his bday live is justified???
aint nobody sending him dts literally stop exaggerating sh1t. and even if anybody is that is absolutely terrible and i never justified that. so no need playing the victim card here. im just holding him accountable for what he did and if hes getting criticism bc of it, its 100% deserved. being racist aint funny, yall stans may stand it but not everybody else will. you may be fine being projected to racism but dont be snowflake if hes getting called out by others bc he DESERVED it. @@seempt
@@chanosaurusidk if you're aware of this and dunno if it's related but someone literally told Seonghwa they were gonna ruin his face with acid in a squirt gun for the water balloon concert forgot its name.
@@chanosaurushe isn't a racist, Choi san is the last person on the planet eart who you could accuse to be a racist, do you even know how innocent , humble and caring this man is, i admit that it was he's mistake due to lack of knowledge, but nothing more , he didn't do it on purpose!
I don't think enhypen has lost a fan. Only in this comeback some k-engens acted as drama queens. Dark Blood albums sold very well. Their stream is going well and they have started their world tour as well. Fandom leavers may also not be able to handle Enhypen's concepts and should leave if they can't fit in with the group. I don't see it as a loss.
Didn't you read the comments of Americans who hated the dancers?
@@rsecherry Then idk, they are drama queens too.
Fr, I feel like international engenes were more okay with the choreography than K-engenes.
Anything that kills the fantasy for fans, is just to much for them lol. K-engens even wanted them to change the dance etc. lol 😂 and what did hype and boys do… ignore… My real question is…. Why do “fans” feel like that have so much authority over these Kpop idols. This is a genuine question I’m interested about. And I really hope they don’t pay to send out protest trucks to these business. I would NEVER waste my hard earn money on some bs! It’s never that deep for something like this. U wanna send out a protest truck, send it to the schools and protest against bullying.
@@Cecedenisey32They were like "I protest because my baby idols are with women, that's bad 🥺🥺" like bruh 😂😂
Wow, you totally messed up with the Ateez one... They did not lose fans (in fact, they won more because of their recent comeback), and you just took a misunderstanding (which has already been cleared and forgiven by the affected). You never talk about Ateez except for degrading them and making them look like the total opposites of what they are.... Have some shame
Yes.
Kookielit has been doing this with a lot of popular groups lately. Never talking about the positive or achievements but always propagating the negative even sometimes making shit up. Lately I’ve noticed, even though they have an incredible amount of achievements and record braking, everytime they talk about about blackpink it’s to put them down. It’s seems really weird and biased
Kookielit does nothing but spread the negativity, i’m surprised it’s not on the list of k-pop channels that need to be stopped. i haven’t see a positive post from this channel yet
@user-pk5jn4ys7k exactly! like they DID NOT insult a collective they just sang an old popular song from their country who happened to be a little mocking but not at the time! (also with korea's conservative mentality) like c'mon the collective already forgave them cuz they understood that meant nothing!!
@veewooshi9882 yess! I've noticed too! it's too biased, like a lot of popular and loved groups like blackpink or ateez only get videos talking trash about them but then groups that tend to be more controversial are being treated like sweet babies... 💀
I don’t think it’s the right choice to hate on the idol when they make mistakes/offend a group of people instead people should teach them and educate them
Just as you don't want idols to take care of their underage fans in their concert, why we need to teach them? They are adults, No person should educate them, let them educate themselves.
@@rsecherry so you’re saying the right thing is to hate on them/ send death threats? Okay💀 I’m 100% sure majority of kpop Stan’s are grown adults who have money to pay for concerts/merch and who is “we” ? You don’t represent a whole community and if they didn’t know already that means they weren’t educated so by fans telling them what’s wrong and not/how they feel about it it’s a way to teach them they shouldn’t do it again I’m sure idols see what fans post + there are also some things idols Should have known before doing what they did (if yk who and what I mean) so also defending them knowing what they did hurt a community is also not the right thing to do
My point is sending hate towards the idol is a dumb move to do when not only them but also other people like other kpop Stan’s can be educated about it or js don’t say anything
The first thing is minors shouldnt follow groups that are known for some kind of music its their parents fault idols do their job as an idol but the parents are the one to blal for not keeping an eye for their children@@rsecherry
Funny how this channel NEVER EVER talks about ateez even when they break records or even when something good to them happens. But then the moment they made 1 mistake they are milking it out. The bias this channel has is becoming clearer by the day
totally agree, they only talk about Ateez to criticise them for the minimum
I'm in full agreement with you :)
IKRR and infact i feel like this channel is kinda toxic like the way the thumbnails are with those 'taped faces of idols)
they do the same with a lot of groups, especially the ones in the spotlight (blackpink, ateez and more) its ridiculous lol. such a biased channel
if you hate ateez for this, you can leave. The door is right there. and yes, I'm a South East Asian girl.
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Well said
yessss girll
PREACH
Lmao if you are a south east asian girl then I guess you should stay tf out of this matter. Lmao who tf gave you the rights to say anything on this matter? The audacity oof
ATEEZ didnt lose any fans because if the controversy, and if they did, it was probably not more than a handful. Why dont you ever talk about ATEEZ's achievements or when they do good things? The one tome they slip up, you go crazy with things that arent even true.
ateez fought for their place in this industry being from a small company they went through a lot and after one mistake which they apologized for yall are eager to take everything away from them that's disgusting
hold them accountable
@@poopstinky2547 yeah and not demonize them 💀 you clearly missed my point
@@poopstinky2547 Atiny already did that. Do you know how long ago that happened?
Why ATEEZ are the only ones getting this much Hate for the curry song issue there are too many popular idol groups who had sang and danced to it too, Haters are just finding a reason to make Ateez look bad as they rarely do this kinda mistake
Frrr they even made those groups popular even though they never issued any apology at all, meanwhile kq apologized and ateez still get in this shtstorm
ateez did so many good things and yall stayed quiet but one mistake and yall throwing them under a bus ridiculous
i wonder why they always talk the negative things of kpop and not the achievements the idols do also they always talk negative about ateez
Oh so someone will insult your culture in the name of their ignorance and you expect that people will not even outrage over that just because it does not matches with your sensitivity & sensiblties !
@@sarcasticsree they're not insulting my culture, you dolt. The song did. They didn't know.
@@elisabethvania7030 okay , thanks for your enlightenment !
that doesn't outweigh what san did. educate yourself. the song stereotypes 1 billion+ people, in a racist manner, and mocks a whole RELIGON. be so fr
I'm still gon support Ateez 💯
Same, tbh san did nothing wrong
I'mma new a tiny and idc too
@aot3754 Rightttt and don't get me wrong I'm not Indian or any other South East Asian so I really can't speak on it but I can say that song is literally so popular in Korea and many don't know that it's racist and many idols sang it not just San.
@@ANRI313 exactly lmao
@@ANRI313 Exactly, if they are going to hate San for that, then they might just leave kpop as a whole, because the other idols have done much worse things. And tbh, it’s not just kpop idols, western celebrities do a lot of bad things too. So if people are that sensitive they should just stop using the internet.
I literally don’t understand how things I would do on a regular basis is what san was getting hate for. No, I did not know that it was a controversial song and honestly I don’t think san did either. Like I wouldn’t sing it if I knew about it.
Right, he did nothing wrong
And they apologized, and fans keep in mind the mistake so it cant happen again.
@@ashantythegreat3231kq has not ateez themselves tho
@@brennathecatlover4360 Idk if the company allows them to or not, but at least it got addressed.
@@ashantythegreat3231 ateez themselves or at least hongjoong has with the cornrows situation so this shouldn’t be any different
K-engenes took jealousy to a whole new level. Litwrally imagine sending trucks bc of "provocative" choreo BUT not giving a shit when people were actually sexualizing Ni-Ki (who was a minor!)
I mean Niki helped choreograph bite me he’s not innocent either like your teen favs do sexual shit all the time too 😂
@@brennathecatlover4360 ya ik but kengenes literally were jealous bc they werent the ones dancing wirh enhypen
the bias on this channel is starting to really show, how sad
Foreal
This really hurt me honestly San and ateez are my safe place and nothing can cahnge that. I understand that indians may get offended but if ur a fan and know san yk that he has good intensions and would never mock a culture and probably had a energy busrt or was happy when he sang that song. Im not being bias. If u think i am being biased i definitely am not being biased. Kq and san already apologized and clearely stated that san had not bad intentions so i find it wrong for people to hate such a good person. Ok? Idc if u think different or stop stanning atz. He didn't, atz didn't lose MANY fans or some fans. They are getting more popular day by day. So if u don't like san don't leave hate comments wven if ur hurt. Again im not being biased.
ikr, same they're literally my home and safe place, and ngl the whole situation as an indian tiny disturbed me but ik he didn't had any bad intentions and the fact tht kq and mbc apologized for it asap and ateez are literally the only group who gave apologized after singing tht curry song
Cringe af
@@bleh22292 Then why did you bother reading the whole thing and proceed to comment?
@@swee_bee why not? Are you paying for my network bills? If not then you dont have to worry about what I am reading or not reading lmao
@@bleh22292 I just asked a question, no need to be defensive.
I (as an Indian atiny) don’t hate San,Seonghwa or Yunho but I am disappointed that this song is still known and sung without South Korean celebs not understanding why the song is offensive, I hope they will be learn that CA and slurs are offensive and unintentional mistakes like this won’t happen again(also Ateez is such a respectful group and Hongjoong has said in the past that if they make a mistake,they want atiny to tell them that what they did or said was wrong and so they’ll know what they did was offensive to a certain community and make sure they never do it again, I feel like the ppl who are sending hate and not actually educating the members just want a reason to shit on Ateez and don’t care about helping them realise and fix their mistakes)
i hate yall for doing this to San he didn't deserve any of that
Same, i feel bad for San. I feel like slapping ts outta these people for making San feel bad. He was so cute and innocent when doing that dance and didn’t mean any harm😢😢💔💔
Like on his birthday, nope too far. I will support San forever
the dts were unnecessary, but we should hold him accountable.
@@poopstinky2547 You can do that
I don't think its true for many groups here, like cmon we know how much the fan culture of kpop is enthusiastically constant so i dont think fans would just leave their faves. Ofc you can educate and warn them but for me personally i wouldn't be able to just leave the fandom cuz i sincerely love my idols, as people too.
Enhypen didn’t lose fans… they actually gained.. after the comeback regardless of the whole fan jealousy stuff..
The ATEEZ hatred was blown out of proportion, yeah they made a mistake and apologized for it but is not like they were doing black face like MAMAMOO. I honestly think most of the hate they receive comes from STAY posing as ATINY
most fandoms just jump in the hate to Ateez, it's like every chance is good to criticise them... but we all know the reason is Ateez is way better🤭
@@bby_princess2222 That part, ATEEZ is where they are bc of their hard work, talent and top tier music, not payola 🤭🤭
I am from Korea . Sorry my English not good but Who Korea is hating Jenneya , stop believing these All kpop trolls . Jenni-shi is Thee Celebrity and National treasure of our Korea. We love her .
I'm glad Ateez were made aware but at the same time, I feel like us Indians are becoming too sensitive nowadays (not about the curry song). We used to really appreciate it when foreigners visit and try out our traditional outfits and food. Asians in general love to share culture but among the kpop community, I've seen some people who use it as a way to hate on idols. I've seen comments attacking idols for wearing bindi or saree. Let's get back the laid back mindset and not blindly accuse people of cultural appropriation when they're just appreciating it. Again, was not talking about this particular Ateez controversy
Its the difference between cultural appropriation and appreciation. Admit it or not most of the koreans are racist af and they use stuff from other culture as a form of "aesthetic" while treating the people of that cultural horribly. I have noticed Indian kpop or kdrama fans try to give them a pass just because they are koreans
@@bleh22292it’s pretty racist for you the generalize Koreans and say most of them are racist lol
@@sicatsz Its not racist you are just a wannabe or a snowflake🤷♀️
@@bleh22292 you are absolutely right... Well I love kpop and Korean dramas but I am not blind I will support my country first. It's not the first time this kind of things happened. If any Indian singer make a song about Korean's plastic surgery then I really wanna see their reactions.. That curry song is very offensive af..
They shouldn't care so much with negative comments, just keep making good music.
Its hard not to because everyones mental health is different
@@KamenRider808 their "mental health" 💀☠ u mean it's hard not to bc it might affect their career?
every controversy were fading away but videos like these resurfaced again please
IN ATEEZ CASE AS AN FAN OF A LONG TIME OF ATEEZ WE ALL KNOW IF YOUR A TRUE FAN THAT SEES ATEEZ VIDEOS AND KNOW THAT HE IS AN ANGEL AND DID NOT MEAN THAT
I could honestly not care about the bite me dance choreography, as an international engene I think whatever is best for the boys and what makes them happy makes me happy. I only have one comment on the dancing and how it’s more touchy then I thought but all the members are practically adults except ni-ki, but he’s almost there so.. I think the moves aren’t that bad it’s not like they are fake kissing or something else 👀
Same I don't care about them dancing with girls I don't really see the problem, it's Korean fans who always have a problem with anything that associates with the opposite sex of their fav K-pop group. when I watched bite me I didn't even notice the girls until about 3 weeks later when my friend told they were dancing with girls.
@@queenrose8529 that’s funny 🤭
Why ateez here 😢😢😢 I love them sm
Idk man they apologized alr and idt they lost many fans yk
Atiny still love San and San clearly had no bad intentions I'm not being biased rn yk
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IT happened on San's BDay (7.10), Please, Dear, don't worry. WE ALL KNOW that when boy groups/ girl groups or solo artists are gaining popularity THIS KIND OF SH*T HAPPENS..... :(((((
Atinys I don’t know if you have the same feeling as me but this Channel always talk about Ateez when there is a scandal about them They never talk about Ateez achievement (thanks other content creator are doing it )they don’t have the obligation to but still they always do it about other popular group They never talk about ateez for exemple when they talked about the kpop lux festival they named other group and coming to ateez they just said “ and more “ They never talk about when Sassng and crazy persons threatened Seonghwa or other members Ateez even though the scandal hurted a lot of Indian Atiny haters took that scandal to threaten San on his birthday live and Ateez is gaining fan every single day so yeah kookelit is wrong
You’re right
Yes and they like to grossly exaggerate things like why put that tape over San's mouth like that?
@@FrifriTiny-bg5oi that’s what triggered me and I clicked on the video bcs it’s been a while that I stoped watching they videos
not the point....
alSOOOO ATEEZ HAS DONE SOO MANY GOOD THINGS I DONT EVER SEE U COVERING FOR THEMMM ???!!
as long as i know san I'll stick to it i love him even if the world will hate him i will stay
Ikr like if they wanna leave we'll gladly stay
SAME SAME SAME
Ikr, like, the door is open for those "atiny" to leave, but the door closes and stays closed after that.
@@swee_bee no, anyone can join the fandom & if they really feel like moving on they can leave and if they wanna join they can (imo) and I think everyone should infact stop saying like if you leave the 'door is closed' or smtg (I'm not pointing watever you said)
@@wooyoroll That's not what I mean by the door stays closed, I mean for the toxic atiny that decided to leave during the controversy (the ones hating on San). Most of the ones hating on San on Twitter claimed to be atiny and most of them were multifans. The hate they sent ateez was insane and I personally don't want those kind of atiny to come back to the fandom.
ENHYPEN has really worked hard for this comeback. How can they even call themselves Engene. They can dislike the dance but literally sending protest truck ?
I hate how they get upset because they dance with dancers, but they never said anything when Hybe sexualizes Niki as a minor, it's disgusting.
im so glad im not ultra sensitive to things people do. idk how these people get on with their lives
Same. They'll one day realize that they're the very reason thos world sucks
You're kind of being dramatic with the Ateez incident. Like, girl, Ateez isn't losing fans like that. They'll be okay.
Who will forever support FIFTYFIFTY? 🤚
since day one
Are you sure?
Forever hunny❤❤
@@nathanfoucheforman5709 need more music 😭
Gladly ❤
Who ever will leave ATEEZ Fandom.. I just want to say : thank God for your leaving 🙏 pls don't comeback ever 🙏.. We not need toxic and hater people in our Fandom so thank God
And yes, bouncy is still storming the world and igniting theaters. ATEEZ are amazing, and they went through that incident and learned from it. They are always the first to participate in awareness campaigns, for example, the Polished Man campaign. So yes... your words mean nothing as long as you ignore their successes and seek to criticize them.
bouncy still heat tho
Ateez is not losing any fans, Especially san everyone loves him and they know he didn’t mean any harm. it’s actually the opposite Ateez has gained so many fans after bouncy comeback especially san. The person who made this video is ateez hater so she’s/he’s trying to make it look like they are losing fans😂 I will never stop loving San even if the whole world was against him❤️❤️
Can we just boycott these fans?! Clearly they are not fans!
i feel really bad for Jennie she been working so hard and people don’t get that she is tired.. Imagine working, singing and dancing almost everyday and traveling a lot.
Girl bffr
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What about people who are really working 8 hours(or even more) per day everyday and are not even paid for their hardwork(I'm talking about real jobs, not modelling and taking selfies)?
Only jennie works hard? a lot of idols work hard and still give their best on stage.
@@mariadragomir3362Um sorry but modelling is also a job.. I don't know why kpop stans don't respect models and feel as if they do nothing. Literally every other kpop fans thinks of modelling in a negative light and don't even appreciate it... People really need to have a knowledge regarding the topic before speaking anything about it.. And yeah Jennie works hard travelling each day , preparing for stages, photo shoots and modelling (which y'all think is pretty easy), and much more we never know what idols go through behind camera.. And Jennie has mentioned that she has stamina problem...
Fyi, majority of Engenes supported the choreo. I remember International Engenes fighting with Korean+Chinese Engenes in Weverse (Japan was supportive). The toxic KEngenes said that they won't go to the music shows to support them but many KEngenes still went. International fans also sent support trucks to battle the complaints trucks KEngenes sent :)
Timestamps: 0:05 - Ateez 1:44 - FIFTY FIFTY 3:10 - Choi Yena 4:38 - Jennie (BLACKPINK) 6:05 - ENHYPEN 7:18 - Heechul (Super Junior)
Kim Heechul should change his name to KING Heechul
savage king heechul
enhypen stans r soo pathetic
@@4m3mory lol for whom and what are you saying that
@@killua12768 the ones who had a problem with the backup dancers 😑
Lol Ateez has nothing to apologize for. People need to stop letting the American cesspool people bully them.
The way you never mentioned Ateez in a video for all the amazing milestones and achievements they had with their comeback but here they are at number 1 on your list because you only care about them whenever there's a controversy. You're not sleek
She didn’t agree she herself wanted to be herself on it and asked Sam levinson to be on the idol
Didn't The Weekend ask Jennie personally if she wanted to join The Idol?
Bro don't exaggerate _ Ateez did not loss any fans not they will in the future. Infact they are dominating the world with "BOUNCY ". Stay in ur Limit. Instead you will loss ur fan/subscriber.
People are going to complain about ENHYPEN having choreography with women, but never point out how HYBE sexualizes Niki who is literally a minor... 🗿
dirk about the enhypen one, some k egengenes complain but overall the album went really well they sold over 1m of copies on the first day and also on spotify they are doing super well also their fate tour is going amazing
ateez didn't lose fans 💀
Netizens crying about cultural appropriation when Disney is making Snow White Latina and Netflix is making Cleopatra black. Gimme a break.
Hey, Einstein. Maybe you should look up what “cultural appropriation” actually is.
@@hishaybe Nah you are the one who should look it up obviously you don't have a clue.
k-engenes are just too sensitive imo. as an i -engene, i don’t see anything wrong with female dancers included in their choreography.
I still support fifty fifty I hope everything goes well for them I want them to make more music
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@@xxsohalalmodexxyou 💩
Me too
I don’t they didn’t need to do what they did. I feel bad for the ceo he just wanted to give them a chance and they dumped him after one hit
@@Sayoung24 when you know nothing. Please keep from commenting wrongly. The girls wanted transparency which the CEO refused in showing. If I were the one, I'd do the same thing, the last thing I'd want is having a debt I know nothing about being put on me in a way I can't pay off the debt. So I 💯% support them.
I don’t think some of them lost fans some fans were just disappointed…
not you kookelit you manupulate
You can't even spell right
She's a feminist what do expect?
@@skillbopsterOfc! Everyone should be a feminist. Or do you support s*xism and Misogyny?
@@skillbopster💀
@@skillbopster i don’t think she is, feminists would be doing the opposite of what she did
it’s the fact that no one has given hate to Mamamoo for doing blackface but Ateez members got so much hate and backlash. When it’s culture from the black community, they brush it off like it’s okay but other cultures it’s not okay?? all of a sudden it’s a war behind them. being a black k-pop fan myself is so messed up when i get bashed for atleast trying to educate ppl
What are you saying? Mamamoo is still getting hate for that till this day! Stop this nonsense you people are willing to ignore any bad behavior from your faves in the name of support. Mtcheww
@@authornikkih8266 I was saying it as they brushed it off now and some mamamoo fans till this day doesn’t know about the blackface. mamamoo does get a lot of hate but it’s never about them disrespecting other cultures more about how they look and act. i’m not backing up any of my faves. i’m black k-pop stan and i hold every single idol accountable. including bts, straykids, twice, blackpink, mamamoo, and every single idol that did cultural appropriation.
Like when Crush got hate for _not giving a girl a high five?_ Or when idols get hate for HAIRSTYLES? How about the hate people like Han, GD, or Jay Park get? People _primarily_ cry for black people. And, for the record, they're BOTH stupid. Culture is to be shared. You can't indulge in KOREAN culture while screaming how horrid it is to indulge in culture at the SAME TIME.
@@authornikkih8266exactly !! Well said ! 👏👏
@@carat4svt how many mamamoo fans don't know when haters won't let them rest go under their comments section you'll see haters constantly bringing it up. Excuse me but I will no longer give any excuse whatsoever for any grown ass adult that engages in racism then turns around to pretend like they don't know. You people behave like you don't know how racist Koreans act towards black and brown people hello some of your favourite idols might actually not like you miss black lady, I'm black African for that matter you should see how racist east Asians act in my country it's disgusting.
no matter what it is I WILL SUPPORT FIFTY FIFTY this happens all the time idols getting cancelled and then being actually the victim i lke their music idc about the thing rooting for them
I started staining fifty fifty but then I lost all interest after this big mess. ATEEZ is rarely in controversies and I do really feel bad for San. I personally didn’t understand why Jennie picked such a role but the backlash is definitely too much and unnecessary. I hope K-pop can go back to the way it to be used I want 3 gen back 😂💀 I love 4 gen to❤
Ateez is not losing any fans, Especially san everyone loves him and they know he didn’t mean any harm. it’s actually the opposite Ateez has gained so many fans after bouncy comeback especially san. The person who made this video is ateez hater so she’s/he’s trying to make it look like they are losing fans😂 I will never stop loving San even if the whole world was against him❤️❤️
Lmao always talking about ateez in a negative manner. They didn't lose fans and it was literally cleared in two days.
this scandal made me stan Yena even more actually I even brought the album even though I haven't done this with the other albums
The song is actually great, it's a banger if not for it's title and marketing tactic that backfired and tarnished Yena's reputation. They only need to give it a nice title and it will definitely win on music shows. They prolly thought the tactic of the likes of Wonyoung's hate turn understanding to supporting an happen with this one, they're clearly wrong. First, Starship or Kakao makes the management and the haters the villain in order for people to realise that WY is just doing her work so they'll finally give her sympathy(which she deserves because they literally overworked her for promotion and gigs). While in this case, only Yena, the singer of the song will get the hate because she became the villain. It's unfortunate, this was supposed to be one of her best CBs, it's even my favorite song of hers never mind the title...
I think Heechul messed up big time for sure. He wasn't apologetic about his behavior either. I understand the Jennie x The Idol controversy, but she IS a grown adult. It's her choice, not the fans. her getting hate for leaving mid-song bc of being ill isn't right. What if she fainted or threw up on stage? Then she would get more hate for not taking care of herself or removing herself before it happens. Jennie gets hate no matter what's going on. Someone could hit her & she'd get blamed for not fighting back or defending herself.
Heechul didn’t do shit y’all always take things out of context to bitch at him when people do post the full context that proves he did nothing y’all are silent lmao. I’m sorry him defending his friends from fake feminist groups is problematic now since god forbid he drags a group that has no right calling themselves feminists since they use the im a woman care to hate since u didn’t drag them for hating on sulli and hara. And the running man thing was obviously a joke your dumb precious baby ningning clearly understood that and joked back but of course y’all fans are too dumb to watch more than 10 seconds of a clip and do research.
But the idol is very controversial show to begin with, jennie doesn't even need it so why was she there. I've seen a lot victimizing her then say"she's a grown adult" y'all can't keep changing sides to defend
@@katye_kpop yeah I know what u mean but people are giving to much hate about it and I think so they forgot she is 27 year old and they should respect her opinion .
@@victoria532 I don't think you got it
As an Indian, I actually had no problem after the company released an apology statement. Of course I'm not speaking on behalf of all the Indian fans but me personally, I was proud that KQ apologized very quickly. I do have a problem with the song though. It's awful that a song like this exists and I was sad to find out about. But them singing it not intending to hurt any of the fans isn't the worst problematic thing I've seen in kpop but idols do need to learn the problem in the song and understand how it could offend fans like this case. Overall I accept their apology (I'm not an Atiny) and I appreciate how they handled the situation and how fast they were to address the situation. But I am not okay with the song itself.
I do think Jennie/YG could've been more selective with her acting debut/western entertainment debut. She's a global star, accepting such a minor role is just not worth all the hate she has gotten.
THAT is seductive and inappropriate?! LOL. Enhypen fans would have a heart attack if they saw 2PM's choreography of their song "Back To You" with female dancers. I love my 2nd gen idols. They never gave a toss about fans childish complaints. 😂
Some people don’t like sleazy stuff. People have the right to not like sleaze just like other people have the right to like sleazy stuff. Humans aren’t all the same. Get over it.
HELLLO i understand ur famous but as an indian atiny i do undertsand san did something wrong but u DONT get to SAY THEY LOSE MANY FANS THEN THIS IS A FALSEEE INFOOO .. WE correct our idols on doing wrongs that doesnt mean the group is losing fan please dont try to demean them...
Bro the San one..he got hate on his bday I do feel bad for him they made him feel bad on his bday.but I don’t think they lost much fans maybe a few but it wasn’t much bro
San will never lose his fans, and he didn’t lose any fans either. He actually gained so many fans and he was going viral. The only ones hating was non atinys and haters who took their opportunity to hate on him because he’s better than their favs.
For San i would say atleast their company apologized not like others who don't even care to post an apology
3:13 I love YENA, her music is so happy and upbeat. When I first saw the title ‘Hate Rodrigo’ I thought “ummmm, wait, what, is this a hate song to Olivia Rodrigo, Yena I really love you and your music, but idk how to feel about this…” then I listened to the song and thought “Oh wait, this isn’t a song about hating on her (Olivia Rodrigo), it’s a song about cute jealousy (?) as the company said (?), ok that’s good, but why does she have to include in some Choruses “hate you, call 911” after “hey you, call 911”? Idk Idc the song sounds good” 😁😁
Yena could've changed the title
@@II_II555 Yes, I agree with you :)))
Who cares what the song is about when title has “hate Rodrigo” on it.think about someone made a song with name ur name on it & ppl treading the name on twitter
yena slay
You hate any kpop band group either Ateez or Enhypen it's very simple get yourself a job and stop being idle, an idle mind is a devil's workshop full of toxic minds. Sorry for Jennie she's going to go through a mental breakdown from toxic netizens.
here is for the narrator: the way you change your tune through the narrative is really impressive I can feel different emotions in your voice good job!👏
I don't think they've "lost" anything. This is just overdramatic. They'll only just have higher sales with their next comebacks. And, you know it. LOL
ateez only gained fans this is all so wrong💀💀 have some shame instead of talking about things without any context
you only talk about ateez when they make mistakes, they've done so many good things and had incredible achievements these past months but yeah sure a single bad thing and you're already acting like their career is gone
Here comes Kookielit exaggerating again the San issue is far from what you have described Atinys we're disappointed yes but San is loved still by Atinys. And there's are those who left but they made no difference.
as a k tiny we don't even think it was a wrong thing to do even, like this is a culturally acceptable way to sing that song in korea, like we sing this song knew this song ever since we were little and every time it was used in entertainment shows, it was used as a delightful humorous way, we find it very amusing, so san seeing it and hearing ever since he was little too, also used it since the song is very entertaining, i can't see any sort of racism induced in his action nor the song, and we were actually really pissed at the intl tinys who were making such a dramatic fuss about it and demanding for apologies that were never needed. Y'all should be thankful company was actually listening to ur bullshits.
finally!
This kind of stuff confuses me so much.... Adult idols get criticized for being slightly s3xual, but NewJeans get away scot-free?! Ok....
It wasn't new jeans, it was min heejin
I've been a fan of fifty fifty since their pre debut lovin' me era I will still believe fifty fifty no matter what ❤ To those fans who got to know them only through TikTok I appreciate your support but I prefer fifty fifty to be a nugu girl group .
Lol no one leaves Ateez, As an Atiny im proud that Ateez learn for their mistake.
I love kpop, but man. I swear, kpop fans are the most hateful, toxic and nonsensical fans I've ever seen. Anything is reason to cancel someone and they keep creating a rampage out of everything. Please stop making videos like this, since it attracts a lot more attention to these pointless accusations/scandals. "One fan said this" (out of thousands) is merely a hateful biased view. Don't bring unnecessary attention to such things.
Pfft, please…Ateez will be fine. I mean look it BTS. Disrespected different cultures and said the N word multiple times and are still the biggest boy group in the world.
Right
you only ever talk about ateez when its something negative lol
Jennie can’t lose her image. She’s never been innocent and bright-eyed.
She was always cringe
Jennie is an adult she can do whatever wtf
Yes and people are free to judge.
NEW JEANS #1 IN LOST FANS IN KOREA
New Jeans gained a lot of fans in Korea. New Jeans songs are number one in every single Korean chart
New jeans gained fans
Im not sure if you have a way to count the loss of fans reliably... I understand that the use of words in the context of the video but it can be a little bit tricky.
Didn't nobody lose fans over any of this bs. Just say it like it really is. Bored kids ran somewhere when they saw "drama" pretending to be "fans" and running to hate on people because they have NO LIFE. All of these people named lost "fans" that weren't even fans to begin with. But of course you'll make a video to try and assure that it actually happens
@@pruitv4 RIGHT! They're trying to actually create the drama
San's situation - Real fans stuck around and turned it into a healthy learning experience for him. I was more upset when 145IQ's RM wore a Nazi emblem military hat on a photo. Sure, it was an ignorant stylist who picked it but he should have recognized and stopped it.
I don’t know why people will be hating a group just because they don’t have clarity of the finances when that should be transparent at least for them. Like people need to grow up, at the end is their job, imagine if you are not getting paid and your boss don’t even tell you why, so you should just be okay with that? Ughh so annoying 🙄
i'm i crazy, or people forgot about the way the k-pop company works? are people SURE that fifty fifty members are the guilty part? bro ARE YOU SURE?
Companies are not always to blame.
@@rsecherry ok. tell me HOW a new group have POWER to face A COMPANY? bro?!!? give me examples lmao 🤣
@@rsecherry 👀
@@eujacks7888so what exactly did they ceo attrakt do them wrong?
@@sowhat1674 I DON'T KNOW. But to me, it doesn't make sense that a rookie group have power to face a entire company.
A lot of people get offended nowadays smh
*For "Ateez" People get mad when obviously they didn't mean to hurt anyone & it's never enough they need to apologize multiple time & even if they do most "fans" are still not happy , so not real fans so not a real lost for the fandom & for Them, if you really know Ateez you know that they're kind, funny & respectful so ...Again not real fans. *For Fifty Fifty honestly i don't know what to think about it are they've being manipulated by this other people or are they really bad ? i don't know. *For Enhypen it's just "fans" being ridiculous honestly, Real fans will not care about it only the toxic one who think that the boys are theirs, so same as ateez it's not a real lost for their fandom.
Anyways YALL🥰🥰 Have yall seen Ateez at Waterbomb?!?!? omggg
ATEEZ has a increase in fans. The issue was addressed and an apology was issued. 0ther fandoms are always in Ateez business and this case wasn't any different.
I hate to say it but to get mad over male idols using female dancers in their performances, there has to be something mentally not right with that person!
i really hate how engenes are rn mad about the female dancer on bite me choreography, they say it was to spicy, and niki was a literal minor, but tbh if the female dancer was them, they will complain nothing. the problem was not on enhypen either the female dancer or the choreographer, and remembering niki was also contribute on the choreography, even if niki was not contribute on the choreography, everyone worked so hard on their title track, and these ppl hating on it just cuz it's featuring female dancer. okay prob the problem is cuz it's to spicy while niki is minor, then why y'all SILENT when fever come out? with that choreography and niki was 15 or 16 year old, y'all said nothing. and if y'all asked me to list the most sexualized idol, i will put niki in there. and literally no one said anyhing abt that. this was actually my first time to disappointed so much at engenes, seriously guys, wake up, if y'all are talking abt niki which a literal minor, why y'all said nothing when he was sexualized??