Here's What We Love & Hate About Our THIRD Land Rover Defender After Owning It a Month!
We've spent a month with our third Land Rover Defender (check out our older videos to catch up on that story), but has this one been a much better experience? In this video, Tommy and Roman share what's happened over the past few weeks.
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Always great reviews
Voted best looking SUV on the back of a flatbed! 😀
😂😂😂
Landover is like a sheep dog (border collie). As soon as the you get in your (reliable) truck then it will be on the back.
Noice 😂😂😂
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I just took picture of mine on flat bed for the last time, being towed from my yard. Sold for scrape despite looking like a million bucks. I love them but will never own another. Some things you need to know before buying one: be rich or run in other direction, do not own one for more than 3 years of being new (without warranty), do not us accessories from the dealer ( they will have galvanic accelerated corrosion and you will pay for repairs - is part of their business plan), etc.
Reliability has been pretty good, with the exception of the suspension fault lights, coolant fault lights, and the radio deciding to not work within the first month. 😂 Love you guys.
😅👍👏👏👏!!!
It’s the Defender owner experience package! 😂
Hahahaha
Xmas tree lights don't count until the Check Engine light comes on
@@christopherderasmo5041 exactly! It's cheaper too, right?
I’m quoting here .... “it kinda lives in its own space” So far that “space” has been the dealership’s maintenance bays.
It hasnt been into the dealer?
@@UKTyke Correct but it’s 2 siblings have their own reserved parking spots there.
@@charlesharrell3643 But that is not the car in this review.
@@UKTyke I’m fully aware of that but if you pull 2 apples from a bag and both are bruised and have a worm inside are you going to fully trust the next apple in the bag. 😊
@@charlesharrell3643 Actually only 1 Defender had an engine fault ( every manufacturer has engine problems ) , it never left TFL stranded , the other vehicle's issue was due to an incompetent local dealer trying to fit a winch , the truck was fine otherwise , as usual there are so many comments making up false information.
“The reason we bought this (Land Rover) was because of reliability...” 3 vehicles later. Give up.
nope, not giving up my Disco2.
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@@sailingspark9748 I owned one of them. You're a glutton for punishment. 😀
@@Kman31ca I have had mine for 8 years. Been very reliable in all that time.
@@sailingspark9748 You're a lot luckier than I was. lol Mine was a major PITA.
I thought the Land Rover was moving to TFL Off Road? Im so confused by how many channels. Nathan can’t even remember either!!!
there are way to many
Not to sure they know about the algorithm. The more Channels you have the less views you get because it's harder to optimize
@@ScrapTechTips Roman doesn't make the best decisions in the world. They bought a second pile of shit after the first engine failed.
True
It's done purely for monetization. It probably bothers them as much as us.
I’d love to see you guys purposely pack on as many miles as you possibly can so we can get a real reliability review at the end of the year before you sell it. Shoot for 40k!
And we can start a pool for when it breaks down. You can buy 3 day spots and if (when) it breaks down on your day, you get the pot....
It will never see 40k without a ton of repairs. Hell look how many problems its already had.
If they get 40k miles out of it with no more problems I'll double my patreon monthly contribution. No chance in hell that's gonna happen though!
This up in the air. The first one was trash. The 2nd was technically nobody's fault but not a good sign if the mechanics dont even know how to work on them. Put some real miles on it so customers know their dollars buy is the only option to get a honest review
They don't even need to do that. It's widely known and accepted that land rover products are the least reliable vehicles on the road.
One design feature that drives me crazy is that C pillar. I drive by one of these on the way too work and I always think it still has the window sticker on it, but it's just the giant C Pillar.
Companies like Lucky8 are already selling delete kits for it.
@@donhappel9566 just removes the colour there’s still plastic behind so doesn’t make the window bigger unfortunately
Yes that's so odd. It defines the style choices all around, as if to say, "This isn't a real thing, just a toy imitation of one". So impractical. I've imagined a person sitting behind that thing on a long trip... missing all the views, trying to peer around it. Very weird, very stupid IMHO.
I’ve done 10,000 km in my new Defender 240 S 2 Litre twin turbo diesel in New Zealand taking it off road extensively on many demanding tracks. It has been faultless so far with 6 months ownership. It is fast and powerful on road with great road holding on our twisty windy roads. The interior is well designed, great materials, lots of USB ports, charging points etc and we find the touch screen quick and easy to use as are the off road programs ‘ mud & ruts’, ‘rock crawl’ etc. we love the vehicle and it’s all round capability. It is a big truck bigger than our Landcruiser V8 turbo diesel. The Defender is 400kg lighter than the Toyota Landcruiser so has about a 400 kg greater payload which is very useful, it’s much quicker and far more economical than the TLC and has the same 3500 kg towing capacity. The only two things I don’t like about the new Defender are the touchy over servo’d brakes but you soon get used to being more gentle with the brake pedal, but the servo assistance is just right when towing heavy loads. The second dislike is the lack of wide angle cornering headlights. When night driving on narrow wing roads or off road tracks all you see is a ‘dark hole’ about 45 to 90 degrees to the side of the vehicle made worse by ones eyes been bright light adapted to the otherwise powerful low/ high beams. The difficulties fitting front recovery hooks and the high cost of fitting the LandRover supplied winch and mounting kit are a disappointment. Overall, though the new Defender is a joy to own It seems very rugged and well built. It’s air suspension gives it a luxurious ride like the RangRover and it’s class leading off road ride height and front/rear and ramp over angles are well documented on many KZhead blogs. It’s light years ahead of the old Defender in nearly all aspects Martin Rees Auckland New Zealand
This defender is the best online advertisement for Toyota SUVs I’ve ever seen.
lol the defender looks better tho
@@tu_lei Looks great on a tow truck too!
@@tu_lei The British are known for building beautiful, broken cars.
Facts
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One of the OG car and off road reviewers
Concur with other comments about reliability concerns and you guys probably have the most experience. If you guys - not necessarily easy on trucks - like these things, then I think I'll roll the dice and try it. Love the fact you guys have done multiple reviews. Really appreciate it.
Land Rover and reliability in the same sentence. Thought I was watching a comedy show.
You *are* watching a comedy show, that thing is the least reliable. I will admit the interior is very nice and makes you feel comfortable while you're waiting for the tow truck.
The definition is an oxymoron. Landrover/reliability
I know it’s not your experience but I’ve had Land Rovers for 15 years and Toyota for 12 years prior to that. All have been maintained as per the book and I’ve never had anything fail apart from a suspension compressor on the Disco 3, and it warned me so I got home. That’s pretty good considering the near 400,000 miles covered and three quarters of that in LR products. I love them. 😊
If your American your lucky that the d3 generally has the 4.4 v8.. virtually indestructible engine. In the U.K. most have the Peugeot/ Ford diesel which is garbage
Brakes do take getting used to, that’s because of the system that recovers energy from the brakes, but once you do, they work really well. And that’s another reason to get the P400 - which comes with a 4 piston setup. 2 piston setups like on the lower model, doesn’t cut the musterd.
Hi guys, thanks for all your great videos...love to watch. Regarding recovery points at the rear of the new Defender: lift the floor cover in the rear, you should have a screw in recovery eye (good size). The two recovery points on each end of the rear bumper with the little rectangular covers actually clip out if you push on the side of the little cover. Behind the little cover is the screw in point for the recovery eye, which is "snatch" graded. Greetings from South Africa, Charles.
Thanks for the heads-up on this.
@@TFLcar My pleasure! and BTW...ignore all the negative comments...this new defender is a phenomenal vehicle that will give you guys many many hours of absolute pleasure.
Looking forward to following along with regards to reliably. Like the look of it, hate the price though.
I shouldn't be hearing "Warranty" so much in a 2020 Vehicle video
Haven’t heard anything in a minute about this, I naturally assumed it was broken again.
Literally guarantee that something was broken.
It already has “fault light” everywhere...just a matter of time
@Just Facts *1k
Found you guys from the JRE Mike Baker episode. Not disappointed! Excellent content 💪🏼
Keep up the defender videos! Drive it as much as you all can on and off road so we can get some long term/ higher mileage updates. As always, great job with the videos.
You drove all the way to Wyoming,... from Colorado 😂
True. 😁
Congrats on 1mil!
On the recovery hooks - I have an SE (exact same color) and it does come with a recovery loop as part of the toolkit (usual spot under the boot floor) that I can just screw in those rear recovery points - press a side on the bumper hard-ish to pop it open
Had mine since December, works perfect and it's amazing!!!
“I wanna take a road trip to Alaska in this...” Good luck with that.
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Make sure you got another one behind it.😂
@@charliebrown2103 . Ya ment ta say a Jeep behind you. HA.HA.HA.HA.HA
I'll go also; except I'll be driving my Land Cruiser.
Finding premium fuel alone in Alaska is tough. Imagine driving a very UN reliable vehicle that takes premium fuel.
Coming from a native British bloke, though I would naturally be a little biased in favour of the Land Rover, two issues I can't get past. One is value for money - It is very expensive once you have added 'normal' equipment. Second is Reliability - This is across the entire JLR range. I love the capability and the styling of Land Rovers/Range Rovers is usually brilliant, but owning one just causes me too much anxiety.. A wonderful car soon becomes a horrible car if it starts letting you down...
Have you ever owned one? It got to the point where I wouldn’t trust my Range Rover to go to get milk. The reliability was sickening.
And how old was that Range Rover? I’ve never had any trouble with any of mine, short of normal wear and tear
@@simonuden8450 it was about 8 years ago, and sadly there have been no improvements in their quality history. I kept it for just over 2 years, and sold it 3 transmissions in 47k miles and about 27 repairs later.
@@Erin-Thor Was it new 8 years ago? Are you in North America, where there seems to be a scarcity of competent mechanics - just watch the ‘Car Wizard’ channel. I’m curious, because I’ve owned Land Rovers from new since 2004 and only ever had wear and tear costs to pay for. That’s four Discovery’s and two RRSs, and neither have I heard of any of my friends who have them having issues either.
@@simonuden8450 - Guilty, I have homes in Colorado and Texas, and actually took the thing off road. I didn’t realize that voided the warranty, Land Rover pointed out the manual clearly stated “NOT INTENDED FOR OFF PAVEMENT USE” and the roads in Colorado that I travel are sometimes dirt. They saw the debris in the undercarriage and almost denied the last transmission issue. And I assure you that first time failures of original parts have NOTHING to do with the mechanics at either of the dealerships I frequented. You can blame the mechanic for the first alternator failure, the first power window failures, starter failure etc. Don’t misunderstand me, loved the ride, and in muddy slop or snow and ice the car performed beautifully, it just wasn’t built to be used. Edit. And your comment that you or I had no costs to pay for, because it was all covered by the warranty is idiocy. Vehicle downtime costs real money, four rows at my expense, one over 200 miles to a dealership... that wasn’t cheap. When you lose a day, have to pay for hotels, flights and rental cars, those expenses matter. A vehicle is a tool, if it isn’t reliable, it’s a rock.
Great vid, would like to know what kind of highway fuel economy you got on your trip to Wyoming.....Thanks
I love this truck. The blue paint, with the rims are an amazing look.
Lexus GX460 which is the Landcruiser Prado abroad and 3 rows seating is the nearest competitor with 1000% more reliability!
Somewhat agree but also 1000% more boring to look at and to drive.
I’ve had my defender x for almost a year. It’s currently at 9,754 miles! No issues, knock on wood. Once I buy a Land Rover, I can’t go back.
9754 miles is very little so if you’re knocking on in wood, that’s not a good sign. It should be a given it’s reliable when it’s that new. Also, when it’s your own coin you shell out, we’ll see how long you tolerate issues.
@@crazygooseventures there has been no issues. I’m just hoping not based on these issues they are having.
Yes I love them too
Mines almost 14,000 miles...no problems
I want to see more conent on the suspension. do some flex and grip tests with it in regular height vs raised.
Had 2/3 of the same issues with our 3-month-old Defender, XM satellite radio stopped working multiple times (hold the power button down on the radio for 15 seconds for hard reset) and the low coolant light went on about 1 month ago. Checked the coolant level and it was full. Curious as to when the suspension light will go on for us as it hasn't done so already.
Your honesty is needed with this (questionable) suv
Where is that bronco sport?!? I'd love to see a comparison between that and the Land Rover
How do you like the seats? I felt it was to flat under my bottom compared to the seats in my Lr4 and when turning I was skidding to the sides. Not as good as in my Lr4.
Rear Recovery points - just push your finger into the silver squares on the left or right rear - behind the plastic is a screw in with the eye in the boot.
Yup.
Come on, you don't expect then to do something so difficult do you? I mean, how would they complain about it then? And they won't be able to get all the clicks (money) if they don't cater to the haters.
What Fast Lane Car: Hates: "It is not going to be the last Defender that we buy in a short time." Loves: "It is not going to be the last Defender that we buy in a short time." 😄
Would like to see you towing a travel trailer.
Love the new Defender and great review. How about bringing on a camping weekend to see how much gear it can fit?
Great review, thanks guys. I am thinking of getting one and appreciate your honest comments on the vehicle.
You guys should take a view of Doug DeMuro's review of his cross-country drive in his Defender 110.
why
Why?
@Sigkim , no, it was just a very good comprehensive review after having used it to drive across the country and back. TFL sometimes needs a tip or two to make some good/informative videos.
@Sigkim , haha.. well, he as the right "public persona" for his channel, but then, it's all "showbiz". :)
Thanks for these reviews of the New Defender , I bought a SE which will be delivered end of February, now I know what I'm getting in to...
Great car, you won't be disappointed.
I have had 3 of them over 20 years and my entire family is in love with them. When my boys went off to college they begged me to buy them one. One son was the hit of his college in Idaho because when all the jeeps and Toyota’s were stuck in the mud or snow he was the guy who they called to pull them out. My Disco 2 has 250,000 miles on it and runs like a charm. We drive to Moab in comfort ,do Hell’s Revenge and then drive 600 miles back home again in comfort . Try that in a wranger
@@clsboo2348 You work for the JLR publicity department :))
Great video. Would be nice to see a video on mods either planned or possible mods that can be done on this truck.
Good for you Roman for setting Tommy right. Huge, massive,..... Roman show him the difference.
It comes with a rear screw in towing eye like most cars. Fitting the permanent ones was a pretty easy fit, each rated at 7T too.
So much more character than the jeep products. I’d have a broken defender all day long!
Hi - so my first 2022 X broke down second day and was towed to the dealer. Couldn't figure out what was wrong so they ordered a new one and received another X 3 months later. That one is back in the shop with 400 miles on it...been there for 2.5 weeks. Great experience...
Just replaced my D240 4 cylinder with a D250 6 cylinder - boy, what an improvement.
I absolutely have learned a lot from this Defender series already ! Unfortunately I don’t think Land Rover is happy with what I have learned.
Yep, this series is why I am in the process of buying a new Ford Bronco instead of the Defender.
Ive learned something from your post. I don't think you will be happy with what I have learned. 🤣
I thought the “best” thing was that the RR got them home from their trip.
How does the defender stack up against the 4runner with third row seating (even though it is significantly more expensive)?
I surf the web quite a bit looking for meaningful reviews and so far you have been exemplary .... looking forward to your next review of the LR 110
*Congratulations on reaching 1M subscribers!*
I'm still reading 999K
@@samwestenskow at 999K, it's only a matter of hours to cross over 1M.
@@willr69420 Yeah, but they don't have 1m yet.
Why don’t you try and fit the recovery hooks like Simon in Uk did? Powerfulukltd
It affects the warranty
Yeah! What's the deal man?
@@HenryMcChanj No, it does not. It's a factory option on some models, and an OEM part.
It’s a dealer or owner fit accessory - just order part number LR 139442, in the U.K. £27 each - dealer fitting cost me total £250 because the whole rear bumper needs to come off
Roman, you asked at the end of your clip what we want to know for your next update. I ordered an SE and what I want to know is whether this solution Gregs suggests here works. Not just works, but the dealers here have the part and can install it at a reasonable cost. Why don’t you order this part and try it out and let us know. Surely there must be a better solution than that hook you attached. Land Rover wants to sell a cool high design vehicle. But surely they need to get serious about sorting out this recovery hook mess if they want to be taken seriously about off road capability. This is just basic.
How have you found getting into the defender with the push button unlock being on the right side of the door handle, effectly making you use your left hand?
Nice review. Well done as usual. Thank you!
Over priced and poor reliability, I have a Land Rover series 2a so I loved the idea of a new defender but I'm hugely disappointed and won't be buying one
We have two, one SE and one HSE. We’ve had no problems at all. They are amazing cars to drive so comfortable and spacious. Coming from someone who myself and family own them if you look after them, service them give them premium petrol they won’t let you down. If you have the money I would highly recommend
get the model y or a sq5
I agree, ill keep my 03 disco II
14000 miles in on mine and not been to the dealer yet
Why buy that overpriced POS when there are far superior lower prices domestically produced suvs
you can actually pop open those panels and fit temporary recovery hooks(found in the boot)
The screw in eye included with the tool kit is a towing / transportation eye not designed or rated to be a recovery point
@@timoliver8940 yea you don’t want to be recovering with that thing. That’s a great way to lose some glass.
Not in that model, you’ll ask for problems galore
Is the defender has a lot of wind noise on the highway? Plan to buy one for RV towing and long road trip. Thanks
I picked up my 2021 Defender on Saturday, and they fixed the sharp brakes from the 2020MY.
Absolutely love the new Defender. To be honest I don’t think is expensive it is a premium brand.
The only premium thing about it is the price. The actual quality of their products is rubbish.
@@jackbauer4607 have you owned one? I’m in Europe had BMW X5. Audi Q7. Porsche Cayenne. All of which gave me loads of headaches parts are very expensive. Got a Range Rover Sport now and a old defender 110 to be honest best cars i ever owned. As long as they get maintained properly they are very good. Unfortunately we don’t get many American or Japanese cars over here but I’ll have a Land Rover over any other brands in Europe.
@@fernandoroldan2288 The quality is complete garbage. Ranked as the least reliable European car brand, which is saying something. I live here in the states. All European cars that I've owned sucked ass. Owned a few BMW's, and Mercs. Never owned a Land Rover, but my neighbor does. Always broken.
@@gasolinediesel972 fully aware of bad reputation honestly I can only speak from my personal experience and it has been quite the opposite. In fact I owned the Most ‘reliable’ first and was really reluctantly buy my first Land Rover but honest has been great and I would not go back to others.....at least in Europe.
"we'll get the two-door, that's coming" Tommy : That's true. I felt that.
Morning Roman and Tommy... 😎hope your enjoying the New Rover!!
I'd like to see a typical overland build of the Defender. Do it as most buyers would over time via the aftermarket. It would show how modifiable the vehicle is (or isn't) and at what cost.
I am and always will be a die hard Land Rover fan ❤️
And AAA member, hopefully.
I know it's unreliable but It appeals to me. They are special suv's.
You need help, must self inflicted wounds also!
Defender reliability, I think that question was answered when you took ownership of the third Defender lol
Putting my hand up I do work for LR. I think one thing I could like to see is a comparison between toyota's crawl control and land rover's ATPC. Because I think ATPC works beautifully. It can do pull aways on ice/snow and climb up and down tricky hills
Guys I just bought the inline 6 se package love it so far hoping to not run into any problems.
Where's the winch? I thought the POINT of testing the Defender was to test one fully kitted for off roading?
Our second Defender had the winch: kzhead.info/sun/oM-pcpynonRjq68/bejne.html
It’s the ultimate New York school bus! Don’t kid yourself.
@@TFLcar Right, but you're not TESTING the second Defender. Did I miss the video with the second Defender doing significant off roading? I don't even remember seeing a video with the second Defender being driven, even just on the road. ???
Give us more hardcore offroad with defender. Greetings from Serbia!
They can't it's broke and at the dealership again
I would just like to see you guys doing just what you usually do, find out what it's designed to do and test it at its limit, then evaluate how it performs. As of right now I'm not optimistic that it will be as advertised when the first two were lemons.
This review was great. Well done guys. Can you please tell me what brand those clear sunglasses are? Thanks!
I am really hoping that this one is reliable. I love the looks but I am nervous about the cost of keeping it going.
I mean statistically it is much more likely for the defender to be unreliable, but one can wish they had some improvement over other models
If you feel nervous about repairs then you shouldn't be buying it so you lease. An SUV like that requires deep pockets because once the warranty is up, just bend yourself right over.
I think the most interesting thing you could do with this is get a comparable, recent Discovery and do proper testing. This thing occupies that niche far more than that of the traditional Defender.
I'm still utterly baffled why Land Rover would make this "Defender" that is honestly just a dressed-up Land Rover Discovery.
Every Rover owner I know agrees 100% - this is in every way a Disco, not a Defender. Just look at the role each has traditionally played: Defender is utilitarian, sold to farmers and military and adventurers and contractors because it's easily modified to suite your specific needs. No luxury, just a box that gets the job done. Range Rover is luxury that still has off-road capability even if it's seldom used. Disco splits the difference; good off road capability but entry-level luxury mixed in. That describes this new "Disco 6" to a T far more than the traditional roll of a Defender.
@@donhappel9566 If that's truly what the Land Rover aficionados believe, I'm grateful that they understand what Land Rover has recently done is sacrilege. I can't deny the capability of the Land Rover Pretender, but it is very disrespectful to the Defender heritage.
@@AWDfreak Every enthusiast owner I know agrees. We all pretty much thing the Defender2 is an OK car and would have been a good Disco5. I may actually pick one up to replace my '07 D3, but only because I have my older Rovers to be my real wheelers.
It's completely different to what it's supposed to be, all land rover have done is make yet another SUV to add to the bling range, why? They have the range rover for that and even every disco after the 2 is all about show, can you imagine a unit of SBS or SAS using this to do what they get up to, it's a one piece vehicle you can't adapt to do anything except cruise around in comfort so for the money may aswell buy a range rover
I would love to see you guys take as many gravel back roads on your road trip as possible. I really enjoy the videos.
Great review. Glad we opted out of buying one of these. They look great, very capable, but I am not one who wants to deal with nagging warning lights and other failures. Trips to the dealership is always a day off from work and just not worth it.
I can't imagine anyone even considering buying one
Would love to have this if I could afford it
"Let me be clear, it really is a truck" on TFLC channel* puts all Bronco news on TFLC channel/page* Bronco is actually based on a truck* Defender is unibody* To be clear I don't mind that the Defender is unibody, and I don't consider either this or the Bronco, or the Wrangler for that matter "Trucks". If they don't have a bed, they aren't a truck IMO. I just found this sentence funny.
. Yes, real truck men say a Honda Ridgeline isn't a real truck. But it's the perfect urban, (can do) truck. HA.HA.HA
If it's not body on frame, it's not a truck. Suburban, Land Cruiser, etc can be called trucks but this Defender is a SUV.
I would love to see you guys take this on a road trip to Alaska once you guys modify it some (winch, tires, roof rack, off-road camper, etc.). 👍🏼
You remember the last time they tried to have a winch added
Powerfuluk have a you tube video detailing rear bumper removal and fitting of Off Road Recovery Tow Hoops. Just exactly what you need.
3 month of payments and 1 month of using it. To me I see a big problem with that!
I didn’t think of that. The dealer/manufacturer should cover those payments for them. That is crazy to think of paying a new vehicle price for 3 months and no vehilce
It's funny how he's less angry about the issues he's had across 3 defenders than he is about a broken window switch in the Raptor
Love the roll of toilet paper in the back... way to be ready for all eventualities!
It must be for the immanent "crapping out" of this Defender.
Great review, would love to see you guys really push it off road if possible
Does your 110 have the off road package with suspension? Is it worth it? I just got a 90 S yesterday. Oh, and just like yours, it’s going to the dealer after less than 100 miles. My AC works intermittently. Anyway, curious about your suspension on the 110.
Do you guys still plan on installing the OE winch? Just curious...
No plans.
It’s not theirs to play with...????
I'd rather do the aftermarket stuff anyway. L8's winch looks better integrated and will likely cost less. Who wants to pay dealer rates to install aftermarket products? Even if you don't have the skill to DIY at least go to a competent 3rd party who actually does this sort of thing.
@@TFLcar why not just attach one to the reciver?
0:45 sorry Roman, unibody + no solid axle makes it far from a truck
I also don't understand why no one seems to compare it to the Bronco sport. In my opinion, this falls in the same category. Sort of one foot in the off-road category
@@ChristopherOvrebo If you see them in person I think you'll get why; it's far bigger. It's also far more expensive, has more off-road capability, more cargo capacity, more people capacity (three row), and more towing capacity. But I do agree with the first poster - it's NOT a truck. No frame - it's a unibody. At least it's lighter than the LR3/4 though!
Thanks, I just happen to see this video and I see that it has been done some time ago. If you are still checking this site out I would like to know about the 2 door with the 4 cylinder to see if that is a good option due to price. Of course, with heated seats and some up grades. Also, what is the reliability of this vehicle and is it an every day car for work and commuting, particularly the 2 door as it might not be as large. I hope to get some feedback from you on these issues. Thanks
Your about to get a million subscribers!!! Congrats!
I feel like this new Defender is really good out of the box but the upgradability is very poor. Although a brand new Wrangler isn't quite as good, with a few upgrades, it is a far better off-roader. Also, I am not just a Jeep person saying that, I own a Land Rover Series III.
Or you could buy a used land Cruiser for 20k which will last longer.
As an LR4 owner who has modified it, I agree with you completely. Needs mods for 18 in wheels on the 6 cylinder, an EAS to coil with two in lift conversion kit for those that want to ditch the air suspension, and some bullbar style winch compatible front bumpers. I know JLR has the winch with center pushbar option, but I would like more protection on the front corners. And of course a solution for tow hooks- that is absolutely unforgivable. Nice thing is though, it doesn’t need many more mods. Lifted with 18s (whether with lift rods for air sus or a coil swap) will allow for better and bigger rubber which will get rid of its achilles heel.
@@kdrguru A modern Land Cruiser or a retro Land Cruiser?
@@dadventuretv2538 True, although it will never have the performance advantages of solid axles
@@dadventuretv2538 Why on earth would you bother to buy one if you’re going to ruin it with all those mods? Stick to an older car like your LR4 and mod that. In 15-20 years, maybe...
How can any manufacturer with such a pathetic quality/reliability record be considered “premium”?
They are better than Tesla and on a par with Audi.
Makes Toyota extra premium.
@@mikefoehr235 Toyota are the kings of mediocre
@@dinosshed Meh - you don't care about the mediocrity when you're crossing the Simpson Desert, you're loving the Toyota reliability to get you to the other side.
@@dinosshed Maybe they are but FORD and GM are the kings of 💩💩💩. I know from ownership.
Thanks for the review, Guys. How about in the next video reviewing where the Defender is now with add- on off- road customizations, both from LR and after market. By now you would imagine that off- road companies would have started making after market, more functional roof racks, snorkels, roof ladders, bumper replacements, recovery hitches. winches, etc. Basically things to convert the vehicle into a more versatile off roader. My thought here being that the lure of this vehicle will likely be from those that always wanted one because of the legacy but couldn't get one in America and will then want to fit it out for off- roading.
It's a very difficult vehicle to mod which is one of my main gripes about it. However plenty of companies are making aftermarket products for it. Here in the US Lucky8 is well into them.
Well done. Well organized. Good advice.
Surely among the dislikes is the reliability sword of Damocles forever hanging over your heads with this.
How many times do you use recovery hooks when you’re dropping the kids off at school?
Reel in the kids...if they run too quick.
It's a Land Rover, you may need them going to the supermarket.
In this thing probably more times than you think! And that's just doing the shopping.!!
Well, you'll probably break down on the way there.
Glad #3 is working out better for you guys! Nice review!👍 I was very shocked it doesn’t come standard with heated seats, I believe they are standard on all Kia products even LOL!
Money is spent on off roading improvements...At least try to do apples to apples comparison...
Proud owner of one. I love it so much x
Call me after 200,000 miles like my 4 runner!
How can you not say garbage after your experience with 2 new land rovers the factory couldn’t fix ?
1
They don't wanna talk about it.
Only 1 - the dealer wrecked the second by not fitting the winch properly - not a LR problem there.
Anyone: Land Rover Defender *Reliability has left the chat*
Reliability has improved a lot except it wouldn't be a thing to drive to the mines ! The defender was meant to be utilitarian like the mahindra ROXOR!
Strange. I've had mine a year and no problems apart from a SatNav problem that was fixed with a SOTA update. Got three friends with one, admittedly not for as long, but again no problems. Not picking up lots of issues with it, given that its a new model.
@@UKTyke dont worry these cars are over engineered you will have issues.
@@glow4417 Thanks. I think I have more experience of Land Rovers than some keyboard warrior. The Defender replaced a Range Rover which was faultless, as was my previous Range Rover. We did have a Discovery Sport many years ago that had big problems, but that is really the only one I can recall.
@@shankarwain4289 Are we just gonna forget all of the issues that they've had with this pile of shit?
Like to see how it handles in 6 inches of snow. Does it have vehicle height adjustment?