2024 Honda Civic vs Mazda3 - Best Car for $30,000?
2024 Honda Civic vs 2024 Mazda3 review by The Straight Pipes. The Honda Civic Touring is putting down 180 horsepower and 177 lb-ft of torque from a 1.5L turbo 4 cylinder. The Mazda 3 AWD is putting down 191 horsepower and 186 lb-ft of torque from a 2.5L 4 cylinder. At $34,500 CAD for the Honda Civic and $35,000 CAD for the Mazda 3 AWD ($33,000 CAD without AWD), which one would you take?
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Kia Niro Hybrid Review Please
Still quite a few ‘23 Mazda3 Turbos out there with some nice incentives!
you can have just the LED RIM (DRL) ON on each light, just not automatically, but you can... GRAT VIDEO, as usual...keep'em comin
Nice review keep up the good work fellas
so sad that here in europe/austria the civic is only available as the hybrid version (and therefore an additionally added 10.000€ pricetag). So.....yeah, here the mazda is by far the better deal.
It's crazy that compact cars are now $30,000. The new car market is gone.
Ya
I Paid $19,500 for a Civic Coupe EX in 2006... Which is equal to $29,800 today-So, that's more a change in what a dollar cost than what a car costs.
@@NOXStellansYh it’s just inflation
I remember when compact cars hit $15k. It happens.
Gotta get that $$ up haha but nah fr you're right it does suck. I've owned 20+ cars in my life, I've bought an Mk7 GLi Autobahn & 2018 GT Sport new only. The Mk7 was $28k otd fully loaded & the GT Sport was $30k. This was back in 2018 & 2019. These days the Autobahn model GLi are like low to mid $30s, & the GT Sport was taken outta our market but similarly spec'd hatchbacks are about $35-$40k now. It's current market equivalent would be the Elantra N-Line which I believe is actually a lil cheaper MSRP tho, but the GT Sport was a way better vehicle with alot more features/ better build quality, just has the same powertrain. The 2024 Audi A4 Allroad Prestige with Black Optics pkg I ordered from factory was $61k total, that's MSRP, it's wild. My dad's 2016 Explorer Sport was $54k new, now they're like $50k for the ST, which they kinda went down in price too weirdly enough. But it's still crazy that an Audi wagon is $11k more expensive than a 400hp 3 row SUV lol. Hyundai & Kia used to be a huge bang for your buck brand(s) but now not at all really, unless you go for their sub/compacts at close to base spec. Their equivalent 3 Rows are right up there in the $50k's like the Explorer. My dad bought a 2006 Sonata V6 new back then & he paid like $28k it still had its original window sticker when I bought it in 2016 off of him. Equivalent Sonata today would be the N-Line & that's like $38k. My gf drives my old 2012 Malibu LTZ V6, which new was like $29k. You can't buy a fully loaded Malibu anymore but again an equivalent sedan with an upgraded engine today would be in the high $30k's. Same with my old 2009 Spectra5 SX which was a great hatchback btw, but it was only $15k which is wild imo esp for what you got for the money. Imo it just seems like inflation has really pushed things, I'm fortunate to be in a career where I can afford a $61k Audi wagon but yea idk how 70% or whatever of the US who make >$50k a year are gonna be able to buy new cars these days. Even CPO & used they're still expensive asf for basically regular traffic cars. If you want anything fun you're definitely paying big money.
can you guys start adding timestamps for your videos? they're so good but sometimes im just looking for certain pieces of information
Watching the whole video helps everyone out. Your attention span that short?
May not be TSP’s vibe to do sections
@@rjechols2059 i work 12 hours a day 7 days a week
@@rjechols2059damn I don’t think he meant to offend you so badly
Lemme know what kinda chapters you’d like
My GF owns a 2021 CX-30, premium AWD but no turbo. Basically the exact same as the Mazda 3, I completely agree with Yuri. The infotainment is great once you get used to it.
My gf owns a 2021 CX-30 premium awd with no turbo too. Are we dating the same girl?
My gf owns a 2021 CX-30, premium AWD and get this…. No turbo too. 😧
One has no turbo and no CVT.... while the other does. Even though I know Honda is pretty well known for reliability, I'd have to go zoom-zoom on this one.
I wish I could feel that way but after owning my 3 for a while, it's clear there was some oversight. The electronic coolant control valve is a common failure on the early ones and it's a $600+ repair you get stuck with. That certainly should've been a mandatory recall. Makes me wonder what else is lurking.
@@androiduberalles compared to the 1.5 with the oil dilution that they never really fixed and the increasing amount of them needing head gaskets. Rumor is that their cvt isn't too great either. I'll take a coolant control valve that I can change in my driveway if I had to vs a head gasket/transmission with honda's pompous ass dealers
The Civic is suffering from a plethora of reliability and build quality issues. Leaking hatch, head gasket leaks, rattles, and now the sticky steering issue with an NHTSA investigation showing up to 13+ accidents so far with a year+ waitlist for parts. It’s affecting the Integra too.
@@Suction_fair enough. I didn't know that about the Honda. Mazda dealers have been really bad for me too unfortunately 😢
Honda is a shell of its old reliability image. Mid pack at best this day and age. Mazda all the way between these two. No contest.
The "Nooooo Monicaaaa" part LOL, never gets old
I am a comedic genius -yuri
I say that at least three times a week for shit that has nothing to do with cars lmao, doesn't hit the same as in hs but I won't ever let that scene die ja rule will never live that down 😂
😂
I have a 2023 Mazda 3 Turbo hatch with the aero package and it's amazing. The driving experience is butter smooth. Luxurious as hell. The bang for your buck on the premium turbo is just fantastic. Oh and the power is also zoom zoom.
Well said. My opinion that I’ve been spreading in the comments is that these cars are not equals. They maybe similar in size, but Mazda markets to a different set of people. Mazda is more premium whereas Honda is more economically driven
I can agree!! Mazda 3 awd premium owner here
@@christianbryant5617agreed i have a 2020 preferred awd and everyone who gets in the car is like this is borderline a luxury car. been one of my favorite cars i did go with NA motor instead of turbo though as turbo was just a tad bit to expensive for me even with a hefty down payment in the 5 figures didnt want to borrow more than 15k. its not the best handling car out there because of the torsion rear end but its still fun to drive in the twisties even then steering feels fantastic. not as good as my old focus st but i didnt expect it to be when i bought it i knew the st was built for more performance and handling while this was meant to be an affordable, quite, inbetween luxury vehicle. i also want to say once you get used to the rotary dial i dont think i could go back to touch screen interfaces.
@@zackmandarino1021 heck yea. Love the seating position and even just the aroma in the car with the leathers, and glues, and plastics, makes for such a nice experience. As a BMW lover, rotary dials are superior haha💪🏽
Just bought a 2023 NA Sedan Carbon Edition today. I came from a 330i lease and I agree the Mazda is on another level than the Honda. The Civic is nice and I’d say a Civic Touring Sedan gives you a lot compared to the 3 Carbon. My issue is the Civic didn’t even get a fair chance because of the local (Memphis area) dealers. Both want $5k over sticker with their bloat addendums. Have no interest in haggling to not pay their BS “gratuity”. Big difference in the level of these brands, at least in my area, is the Mazda dealer is closer to dealing with a luxury store, whereas the Honda stores treat you on the same level as the economy stores.
Agree with Yuri on the rotary dial infotainment. In basically every implementation. Much rather have the rotary dial and the screen mounted up and further back. Closer to driving line of sight, don’t have to look down to operate the touch screen because the rotary dial is easy to find without looking, less likely to accidentally click the wrong thing when you go over a bump. And as a bonus you don’t get fingerprints on the screen.
I've had a 22 si for about 2 years now. Honestly love the infotainment. The car has been a bit of a lemon but can not praise this new civic interior enough, the screen is very well placed and never distracts me on the road while looking very premium for the price. Many of these economy cars have thick bezzles around the screen and slow response feedback but this new civic interior does a great job with very thin bezzles and very little lag. My biggest complaint with the interior is keeping it clean, dust accumulates in that big dash vent very easily. Overall though, can't complain it feels premium while keeping everything very tactile and easy to use. Even though its a bit of a stuck on ipad looking screen it works great and really doesn't remind me of an afterthought ipad like the one in my friend's corolla.
Yes, that's what BMW started with idrive, and countless cars have copied them for a reason
I miss the dial and dont like both how forward the displat is and that its aimed at the center of the back seat and not toward the driver or even adjustable in any way.
YESSS I have literally been so mad because I couldn’t find a vid of the new civic vs the Mazda3. Those are the only two in the segment that I want, thank you guys for the vid!
I bought the 2024 civic back a few months ago and it really is an amazing car. The lumbar is sorely missed, and the sensors for lane keep are touchy if your car is dirty or has foggy windows. Minus those two things I haven't had anything bad to say about it. Highly recommend!
When i bought mine it had a ceramic coating and its been off and on raining last few days and not so much as a water spot. You might want to look into it.
Coming from an old 2008 Mazda3, and testing a few cars out, the Civic felt more like the old "Zoom Zoom" era Mazda. The Mazda3 drives really well, but I like my corners and I felt the new Mazdas are going more GT/Cruiser. It's really nice, but it's not for me. They both have fantastic interiors, nice and old school in a refreshing way. Better than the VW system but I went for a gti, since driving dynamics is more important than interior to me, and I can't wait 2 years for the GR Corolla in Canada at the moment (my Mazda's engine and gearbox is perfect but the thing is rusting to bits :( after 300k)
"I'm sorrey...I'm sorry!" Haha, love the Canadian accent.
Personally I'd go with the Mazda for the proven reliability of that engine and transmission combo. The 1.5T in the Civic just hasn't been as bulletproof as the Mazda NA I4 + 6AT. I'm someone who's totally fine with a well done torsion beam rear. It's a simple and durable suspension with pretty good ride quality, and honestly isn't a notable hindrance to me when I want to carve up some turns.
I had that 1.5 Turbo in a 10th-gen Civic, plenty of power but was REALLY bad in winter. It would not heat up, this meant unburned fuel would end up in the oil. Engine oil doesn’t lubricate so well when diluted with gas. If you have a longer drive it’s fine, but no good for journeys shorter than 20 minutes
I do not have this problem in the current gen with the 1.5L. In -30c it took around 8-10 mins of driving for the coolant to get up to normal temperature
Block heater and extreme cold climates, oil pan heater, choke the intake grills. Better for the engine this way. -30C is considered normal winter day up here 😂
plenty of issues with them. Easily the worst engine Honda makes currently.
@Suction_ shhh the honda fanboys might hear you 😂 They love to circle jerk hondas "reliability" even though it is no longer the 90s 😂😂
@@WitchYuki22 Toyota too. I've had my highlander back more times than my cx5, cx5 turbo and cx30 combined.
Not long ago you could get a new Mustang GT with a 5.0 for under 30k, and cars like these went for under 20k, sad times indeed
to be fair, this is a fully loaded civic.
to be extra fair, it's still a civic.@@jacobbendah6735
@@jacobbendah6735which is weird to compare against a non top Mazda 3, the top trim of which would have a 2.5l turbo with 250 HP.
Going Joe
@@viktors9385 That's basically a premium segment car. They wanted to compare cars at similar MSRP.
I cross shopped the 2023 Mazda3 turbo hatch and Civic touring and ultimatley went for the Mazda due to AWD and no CVT - I don't think you could go wrong with either depending where you live! I also rarely have more than one passenger so the back seat is never used in my case. Civic's had a markup, Mazda didnt (I paid MSRP OTD)
Just put 2,000 miles on a 2023 Civic touring hatch, the seat needs lumbar and could use more adjustability. The rest of the civic was great to drive. Things were where they should be and very intuitive. My daily is a 20yr old suburban and my wife has a '13 Flex.
Mazda looks beautiful, civic looks cheap
I've got the Civic e:hev in Europe with the 2L engine. I average 4.1L/100km combined on a long run (260km return run to the nearest international airport). Over the 51700km I've done since mid October 2022, I've averaged 4.4L/100km.
Wanted to buy one too, a month after release it wasn't delivered in Belgium anymore due to shortages of parts, still not open for orders 2 years later
@@wesleyt2896 jeez. We're getting them quite often here and they sell very quickly.
@@ant647448336 where in Europe are you from?
its crazy we live in a world where a civic costs $30k
It’s inflation, not crazy.
Where can you get them in 30k? Dealerships in Alberta adding 3-5k extra "mandatory accessories"
it is crazy considering you can get a nissan versa for 16k... why are charging DOUBLE? they are all economy cars.
It’s crazy we live in a world where *insert small compact car* costs $30k.
@@Dim000h2 in the US they do that too. I've bought vehicles that had those accessories and i told them i dont want them and im not paying for them. they take it off and sell it to me. try doing that. mandatory is just a word in the dealership world. they will have trouble selling cars.
3:22 , you can go into the Mazda infotainment settings > lights , there’s an option to keep just the “halos” or “DRL” on during the day and it’ll automatically adjust itself to what you should need as it gets darker outside
I have a Mazda 3, in the US. You can go in the settings and turn off DRL then flick the headlight stalk to the parking light option (above auto) and you can drive it with the circles only! I always roll like that. Only during the day tho, lights come on automatically in the dark no matter what
You unfortunately cannot turn off DRL on the Mazda3 in Canada.
In canada they are mandatory, so I think the option is disabled
I know you guys have reviewed the Jetta GLI a few times but the Jetta SEL is just under the $30k price tag and I'm in love with it! Mine is a 22. Tons of great features, amazing gas mileage, and an 8spd auto (I'm not a CVT fan). I'd love to see you guys add it into your budget sedan comparisons!
Love the video, wish yall reviewed the hatch versions
I am still amazed the Mazda 3 competes since it has no major updates since 2019.
Funny timing, just bought a new civic hatchback sport touring less than 24hrs ago. My last car, a 2018 Ford Fusion Energi could barely make it more than a year without some major issue and when it shut down on the freeway and the warranty was up I decided I was sick of dealing with that car so was able to get it lemon lawed and bought back. All the problems I had with that car consumed so much time and caused a lot of undue stress, there are other cars that have more features than the civic but at the end of the day reliability was paramount for me and my family has had nothing but wonderful experiences with Hondas. Add that I got a smoking deal on my new civic, I’m happy!
What deal did you get on your car? Can you summarize how was your purchase?
Ok yay a normal intro. Keep it up guys.
I stg I was subscribed already. Always appreciate your videos, which are still great in the company of TH or Hagrity, even auto trader is stepping up
i love these sedan reviews!
22 Mazda3 owner here, if you want to drive around with just the parking lights/halo eyes on you can turn off auto DRL in the settings in the infotainment and set the headlight switch to parking lights, in low light the low beams will still automatically turn on though
In the US you can, but not in Canada. The setting is not there.
After driving both, Civic was the clear choice. Reminds me a lot of an Audi A3 both inside and out, albeit not as nice of course.
Two very equally matched competitors. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. I ping-ponged between these 2 for months, but eventually, the Civic won because (ironically, because in mid-December!) my local Mazda dealer wasn't willing to deal on a left-over 2023 Premium trim sedan.
I have a 2019 Mazda3 hatch and yes, you can have just the ring lights on. You can turn off auto-DRLs on the light stalk. It's one of the first things I did in mine. The 3 is incredibly fun to drive, the styling is expensive and classy looking, and the interior looks and feels so upscale. And I'll go to my grave defending the rotary wheel control; it's a great design, sits right at resting hand position, and putting touch screens in cars is a TERRIBLE design choice. Just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good!! It was refreshing that Yuri thought it was better.
Yea Mazda is definitely an upper and more polished vehicle than something like a Honda.. Mazda is more concerned with the luxury factors
In Canada, you cannot have just the ring lights on.
Guys…I dont understand it, but True Car saved me another $6800 USD AFTER RAMS incentives (dealer and Manufacturer). I was amazed. 😮 You got yourself one great sponsor. Civic wins to me! If ya gotta go small Civic is the way.
can't unsee that spec of sensor dust in the bottom left corner of the civic camera
There are some fitted pieces that are applied with 3M tape you can get on bezos-land for the gloss black interior bits in your CX-5. Not a clean looking as wrapping, but easier and worked wonders on my Mazda3.
This gen Mazda has also been around for five years, which is even more impressive. Still competitive, and the advantage of a simple, sorted build. Great long term ownership material. Comparing the base models, Mazda 3 is an insane bargain, not lacking any necessities, same drive train, and they don't cheapen the exterior to make it too obvious.
Our 2020 Mazda 3 AWD hatchback has been brilliant. Fantastic chassis and it absolutely crushes winter weather. The interior and infotainment layout are great. I wouldn't mind more power but that wasn't an option in 2020. We plan to have it for a very long time.
I'm so happy both of these cars exist! That being said, I made my choice: a CX-30 Turbo! Coming up on my 1 year aniversary soon!
We can say, you buy Mazda with your hearth and Honda with your brain for these two cars. I would go for the Mazda. It got more soul in the design in and out.
The Mazda 3 in your test (Premium NA AWD) is pretty much the slowest Mazda 3 you can buy in the current line up. It is heavier than lower trim because of all "Premium" gadgets. It lost power through AWD and didn't get the upgraded engine. I'd either go down or up the trim levels. Go down: Mazda 3 FWD. Same engine but without AWD makes it quicker. It's also a bit lighter than Premium trim. Plus, it remain quiet while Civic below Touring trim lost some sound insulation material. Go up: Mazda 3 Turbo AWD. The 2.5 Turbo almost double the torque figure of 2.5 NA engine. That engine mate better with AWD.
Mazda 3 loses in interior space. That's the deal breaker for me. I'm over 6 ft and the 3 is just way too cramped
@@gurcharansingh3976true but most people are shorter than you, Paaji
You aren't wrong its the slowest of the Mazda because of the extra weight from AWD. However, its still PLENTY for your daily driving. This is the same engine that powers their heavier SUVs.
Do the trim levels affect the ride quality on the Honda Civic? I've ridden in the hinda civic sport and thought the ride quality was pretty bad.
Honda owner here: : 2017 Accord Coupe v6, 2017 Civic Si. I prefer the Honda, but I can appreciate what the Mazda offers the consumer for a sedan. But about a 7 grand increase in retail in just 7 years! Nutz.
Thank you I was going to buy a rebuild 2019 Mazda 3 for 18k but I ended up getting a 17 Impreza for 13k same gas mileage. But I saved 5k so I’m happy also it drives and takes corner like a champ. I feel like initial d lol
$30,000 cars are the new $20,000 cars I guess.
In addition to you guys doing the visor test I think you should always check for adjustable seatbelt anchors on the B pillar. Show how far the go up and down ... shame the cars that don't.
That's a tough choice. I'd go for the Civic, though.
Omggggggg. The right exhaust garnish on the Mazda has seen better days! Are you guys doing curb jumping off camera?
Like Yuri, I was deciding between a Civic hatch and a small SUV. I ended up going with the Civic hatch because I got pretty close to the same about of space but spent way less.
Civic, as I'd need the space. However as I age, adjustable lumbar is becoming important so I'll have to consider that in the future. Appreciate the comments on the car seat room as well.
I'm with you on the 360 camera, Yuri. After getting used to having one I hate driving cars without it now.
3:40 Is the right tail pipe already bent in on the Mazda? Lol My buddy drives a Mazda3 Turbo & while it was super nice when he first got it, like interior materials & stuff, it's starting to fall apart pretty quickly. He has a ton of rattles, squeaks, etc in the inside, his infotainment switch gear has already failed too, the outside trim pieces are like popping off kilter, & he's had a good amount of warranty work done already. He's had it about 2 years & less than 30k miles; he's been tryna get outta it for the past 6 months.
Both cars really need hybrid versions. Thankfully the Civic is getting a hybrid later this year but Mazda is still extremely behind on hybrids. I would kill for a hybrid CX-30, Mazda 3, and a Spirit Racing CX-30 would be really nice. Mazda has had record North American sales yet they're making such "play it safe and cheap" moves like introducing a third row delete CX-90 as an all new model.
Mazda barely sold more cars than BMW this year despite doing very well, and by selling significantly cheaper cars. they aren't making tons of bank / don't have as many resources to develop things quickly. They've always had slow development given their size and funding.
@@drewlehman2456well Mazda has the same problem that bmw had a while back.. more people prefer economical cars to something that is or looks premium. Mazdas are recognized as premium or “better looking” cars and a lot of people are unaware that Mazda cuts down on prices for entry-models. I was thinking about getting a Mazda, and I had someone tell me I couldn’t afford it. The Mazda3 was what I was going for and my friend assumed it was in the 40k range. Just my thoughts
2020 Mazda 3 hatch owner here, favorite car I’ve ever owned. Just wish I had the turbo model (didn’t exist at the time).
you forget the advanced feature at mazda the outside mirror tails down when you move back to where the wheels go
I have a 2022 Mazda 3 premium hatch and love the thing, no problems that I didn't cause (if you have a dashcam and don't go anywhere for a couple days, unplug it or you'll have a dead battery)
1) the DRL & Projector thing I believe is a restriction from Mazda Canada. 2) Mazda keyfobs have a power saver mode that you might have accidentally put it in. IMO they should just get rid of it since everyone just enables it by accident.
nah it's a restriction in the US as well. The headlight assembly needs to abide transportation laws.
@@ezeess7239 I just double checked, it's a Canada thing. In the US there is a setting in the infotainment system you can toggle, in Canadian models that setting is removed. Just having the DRLs on during the day doesn't foul any US DOT laws.
Yuri is from the swanky side of town pronouncing it Marzda. Jakub however is from the bronx 😜
You can take me outta the Bronx but you can never take the Bronx outta me
The Mazda 3 gt turbo whit awd 2.5 its best
Wish they had the 2.5 in the uk
All that Mazda 3 saloon needs is the darker accents seen in the Mazda 3 Hatch.
Great review and I have a question based on Jakub’s comment towards the end: Why Honda civic sedan over coupe version? I’m trying to decide which one to buy. Thanks in advance and I always like your stuff
We picked hatch not coupe
Nice review guys. Is that Mazda model is it Japan made?
Did someone rear end that exhaust in the Mazda?
Also why not compare the Turbo 3 with this? Why go Turbo vs NA?
Instant like for the rolling race and the fast and furious reference
Its wild how the loaded civic hatch is about the same price as i paid for my 40th GTI in canada. Drove both and went with the GTI. Maybe ill get the incoming hybrid civic as my next car. Still a solid car just prices are wackkkk.
Both are the best in class. The only truly competitive Japanese compact sedans
Maybe so, but Mazda is honestly a lot nicer if you look at the dynamics and brand image/portfolio.. I like a more premium vehicle, that’s why I’d rather Mazda if I had to pick
@@christianbryant5617 but the civics very close to premium
@@naveenthemachine maybe so🤷♂️
@@naveenthemachine this new generation on honda looks a ton more luxurious and premium in my eyes than anything any other jp automaker can put out, (exception is lexus and acura).
@@siinxkj no Lexus can’t put anything out as nice as the civic. Except the lc500 any Lexus looks uglier than any Honda or Acura
In my area the better deal is with Mazda. When I looked at the Honda dealership, in little print, add a $3k package to all there new Honda models. With Mazda, I was able to do an OTD price online.
Ugh that ending about the hatches... The Mazda 3 hatchback looks SO DAMN GOOD but it's considerably smaller than the Civic Hatch, which doesn't look bad either but... damn it.
Looks terrible to me.
I love your videos, the only thing missing is 0 to 100 acceleration and mid range acceleration for example 80 to 120
Bro they are under 200 hp 😂 like 7-8 seconds if they are lucky
Can you guys review the 10th gen civic vs 11th gen civic. Direct comparison.
3 sedan over civic sedan, for the automatic transmission... but civic hatch over 3 hatchback every damn day of the week. the mazda 3 hatchback's rear end is atrocious, looks and safety wise. blindspot monitoring and rear cross traffic alert are supports, not replacements for good visibility, and i hate how prevalent thick ass C pillars are getting.
Main reason I got my mazda3 turbo was bc of the black rims 😁. Absolutely love them
Barf
@@TheStraightPipesturbo gives you real leather seats faster cause and non cvt can’t be beat and in the snow awd is very helpful
We have the real leather in our 22' n/a premium awd, love it. Added Corksport rai & rsb, and with the winter wheel setup, can't really beat it. Versatune just released their n/a tune also.
i turned off the keyless entry mode of the second mazda key fob. basically turn it into normal key fob, preserving the battery. then turn it back on if the the battery of first one drained. which hasn't happened yet XD i just hope mazda allow the infotainment screen can operate like a touchscreen when the car stationary, for safety
I love my hondas. But I would choose the non CVT everytime.
I am the proud ownder of a 2022 Civic Touring Sedan 1.5T and I would happily buy this car again; as a young driver my exposure to daily drivers is limited; but by far it is the EASIEST car I have ever driven. Akin to my old VW Golf and more smooth than my older GTI. The only gripe is that 6.9L/100km is not as advertised, I have averaged 7.5L/100km over the 30,000km I have put on the car, with summer and winter tires; using normal mode instead of econ. My only large gripe is that although I love the interior of my Civic; rattles/plasticy creaks are now very common, but I guess something to expect with this car for the price (31500 CAD in 2020, after fees and tax). I also have to say that my passengers love the car, it feels roomy, TONS of space in the back and decent runk space for hauling things. Love this car to the moon. I am wondering how reliability stacks up for this Inline 4 with turbo versus the Mazda; especially with the oil dilution problems honda has had in the past. Thanks for the review chaps, from a fellow GTA lad
I like the look of the Mazda more. If I was looking for this kind of car I'd go for a hybrid Elantra, Sonata, or Camry. Probably the Camry.
Not the same class.
Mazda 3 sedan, has no cvt , I would take mazda
I have a Mazda 3 and the DRL Halos for daytime are hidden in the settings 😊
The red dot on the speedo means "go AT LEAST this fast"
Was the civic in sport mode? I have onen it makes a big difference.
Civic has caught up to Mazda with the new designs finally - could argue either is better looking. Mazda easily wins with combo of NA + 6sp auto and AWD (and memory seats). Do love that new Civic interior design and materials.
Mazda would be an easy win if not for the suspension setup. It's stiffer and handles worse. So pick your poison, cvt or inferior suspension. 😅
@@mofayerthe civic si is the winner. Stiffer suspension and 6 speed.
@jeffbrownme2 it would win if it wasn't so awfully ugly. Mazda hatch beats Honda in looks inside and out. Not even close in that department.
The Civic is suffering from a plethora of reliability and build quality issues. Leaking hatch, head gasket leaks, rattles, and now the sticky steering issue with an NHTSA investigation showing up to 13+ accidents so far with a year+ waitlist for parts. It’s affecting the Integra too.
@@mofayerhave you driven one? It still feels great. It’s an economy car, not a sports car.
Both nice enough practical modest cars. Pluses and minuses for each.
Them civic with 1.5T have been having engine issues since they came out either too soon or high miles I haven’t seen issues with them Mazda, idk if people don’t report issues or they are definitely reliable (2.5 N/A) Just my 2 cents for those who are looking for $30k car
The civic sport is a 2.0 non-turbo. Got it for 26,500, looks sick and is reliable
$35000 CAD is about £21k and for that we get a base spec Mazda3. The starting price of the Civic in the UK is now £34k or $60k CAD for the eHEV which is the only one we get. Its a consequence of the fact that no private buyers of new cars in the UK and only hybrids sell to business buyers.
Mazda has real leather in the Canadian GT trims. The GS premium trim has leatherette
I would take Mazda leatherette over Honda leather anyways haha
I used to think a good set of winter tires with FWD is enough but I live in a cul-de-sec where it’s an uphill to leave the house and it is not a priority 1 street for snow clearing. An AWD SUV is a MUST to get out if it was unplowed. Even an AWD with decent tread all season tires still able to make it vs fwd with winter tires just couldn’t make it…
I love mg 2018 Mazda 3 Grand Touring. 6 amazing years with her and I am still thrilled driving her each day! Luxurious, reliable, and very fun to drive!
awd always! I don’t know it’s a catch for me.
Try awd is exceptional in the snow. There’s not much you can do with front grip turning corners like you are. Comes down to tires.
I've not driven a new civic but I can't imagine why Honda would simulate gears with the CVT instead of have it be one smooth gear. You think that would improve efficiency.
That's crazy that CAD $30K is a barebones economy car now. The inflation from 2012 for example is almost 40% in 2024. So what used to be 10K is more like 14K... That's nuts because income hasn't grown at the same speed.
That Mazda is nice but I would take the Honda all day long
Honestly for reliability and costs, Honda would probably be better. But I think I’d rather the Mazda🤷♂️
@@christianbryant5617 for these specific models, the Mazda3 would be more reliable with the torque converted auto and naturally aspirated engine. But you could probably make up for that with saving fuel costs since the Civic is more efficient. But whatever, they are both probably great long-term. Can’t go wrong.
@@rickygforce4217 I think by “reliability” I really just mean maintenance costs, because Mazda can get hella expensive if you don’t maintain it the way they want you to.. I don’t mind maintenance tho so I’d go for it. Very nice and quality control is best
@@christianbryant5617 true!
@@rickygforce42171.5t arent the best in imo…coming from a friend in service dept at honda…those mazdas are bulletproof
One thing to note about Mazda's AWD system, according to their documentation it disconnects the rear on turn in/steering, which is why I'd doesn't feel that much different compared to the civic
That's completely false, where did you read that..
If it actually does that it would make the AWD practically useless for the purpose of winter handling. Would like to see the actual Mazda quote regarding that.
You can have on the rings only while you’re driving. It’s buried in the lights setting
Seems like Mazdas AWD is just so they can add the badge. Maybe it helps in snow, but i don't really seeing it being that much better than good winter tires.
Funny how here in Saudi we only have 1 trim of each brand. Honda be called Sport 1.5t producing 180hp with all features except the Bose sound system and no heated seats yet with Mazda3 we get the standard without turbo, no ACC, manual seats and no premium sound system. Although I hate the CVT, I chose the Civic mainly for the sensing system.
Crosstrek isn’t in this list? Is it not less than 30k entry?
I’ll take the one without the CVT.
I’ll take a naturally aspirated 4 over a turbocharged 4 any day!