We reviewed the newly updated 2024 BMW X5 to discuss the changes and the V8 and I6 options. While some tech and styling may be questionable, this is one of the brand's best efforts in terms of usability, reliability, and price for a luxury SUV. The Porsche Cayenne, Lexus GX, Audi Q5, Acura MDX Type S, and Genesis QV70 are others to consider.
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Index:
00:00 Interior and Exterior
3:00 Mechanical Impressions
7:11 Driving Impressions
16:42 Final Thoughts
The ultimate leasing machine
Only the foolish dare to own one and it won't be for long because nobody will be able to afford their mortgage owning one of these out of warranty.
@@lukewalker1051 Buy them when they just come off the lease. 3 years old and 1/3 of the price
Ultimate Lease/cpo machine
@@lukewalker1051 i smell a brokie who has no idea what hes talking about.
is this supposed to be a diss to the car?
Had I invested in Nvidia when you guys first started displaying the name in your intro, I'd be able to afford this car.
You’d be able to afford any car lol.
@@michaelzhang8832Any hints on when I should sell?
Don't feel bad. I sold at like $200 when it dipped. I would've made around 250k lol.
I’m so glad I bought in back in 2019 and doubted it would go anywhere fast! And now I’m getting my new vehicle in May when my current Beemer lease is up.
Any hints on when to sell NVDA?
"could have been worse" is the greatest praise to a current bmw design
Yeah... we thank you for your "high quality" personal opinion, you smart ass! Listen, dummy: BMW is the No. 1 premiumcarmaker in the world. No dummy opinion coming from "experts" like you will change this!
3:30 Pay mandatory b58 tribute.
I bet he creamed his pants
B58 jokes never get old 😂
Dude when I drove the B58 before launch, I just knew it was an insane engine. It was nuts
@@MarianDascalu What jokes? It's literally the BEST engine in the world.
@@fuhrerhosty For sure it is. The amount of praises it gets is what's funny, albeit deserved
I had a 2019 X5 40i and now have a 2023 X7 M60i. Looked at the Cayenne both times but just could not understand why it cost 40-50k more outside of having to pay the Porsche tax. Finally good to see a review that actually tackles that ridiculous delta instead of pretending both cars are equally priced.
The Porsche tax is worth it to many people because of (a) how you can customize it to your liking a la carte, and (b) the superior design of driver controls and screens … As a veteran Porsche owner, I can say that it’s possible to spend close to base MSRP and get a fabulous vehicle without loading up on crazy options; for me that happily means all-metal roof, smallest wheels, no “premium” packages, no additional expensive interior options having to do with leather or carbon fiber, etc.
@@cbatiau2528 I think the argument makes more sense for the 911, but it doesn't hold true as much for the Cayenne. How many Cayenne owners are going down the PTS and Manufactur route with their vehicles? Anecdotal, but I barely see any Cayennes with specialty paint or bespoke options in the way I see 911s with them. In either case, more people skip the tax as the X5 outsells the Cayenne by almost double (and there are plenty of Cayenne allocations unlike the 911).
@@samsharma9207 I doubt that the X5 outsells the Cayenne if the prices are the same. And, actually, E-Hybrid Cayenne allocations are rather sparse right now; the 2024 version appears to be quite popular. Dealerships tend to do the same-old thing with all their cars -- get pano roofs (most people I know don't care for them and/or don't even want them), get large wheels (reduces safety and range and comfort), and put in premium packages with stuff that most people don't need (and often won't even use). In the GLE 450e, I can't get ACC without ordering a huge package of stuff that I don't want/need and spend a bunch of cash for that unneeded/unwanted stuff. When you special-order your own Porsche, you can trim out so much excess and get what you want -- and, for sure, people with huge amounts of disposable income will max out their specially-optioned cars with very unnecessary stuff. But there's a lot of good stuff that you can option in Cayennes that you simple cannot option in an X5 or a GLE, like heated windshield, infrared camera, compass/clock on dashboard, all-metal roof, and (in Taycan) electrochromic glass roofs. I also feel much safer in a Cayenne than in a GLE or an X5 (or an XC90, even) on the road, due to better stability, lower roofline, and lower center-of-gravity.
@@cbatiau2528well, that’s why Porsche sells a bunch of ‘em. But I think the point is, the way most people buy them, they cost a lot more.
@@japanwatchconnection yes, the Tourareg and Cayenne were built in the same factory, I think, back 20 years ago, built on the same platform and with same engine (at least years ago)... I wish that VW brought the Tourareg PHEV to America, as I'd likely buy it.
Let’s be honest here. The ACTUAL only reason why you buy the Cayenne is because your Porsche dealer “needs” you to buy 3-5 cars from them before they allocate you a GT3 you’ll spend 5 years waiting for.
Exactly
The MSRP+ premium you have to pay in the "second hand" market for a car with
I don't think that's true. Mat Watson bought a new GT3 RS and he hasn't bought many new porsches
@@royshavrickHe is also a famous car journalist and owns a KZhead channel with over 1M subscribers
@@royshavrickHe himself admitted that the only reason he got one is because of his online/social media presence in the car community. Average Joe coming in off the street won't get a GT3RS even if he walked in with 400 grand in cash and a willingness to take all the most expensive options.
Mark's smile while Jack talked about the B58 was hilarious. Lol.
I appreciate the effort going into sfx for jack's forearm
Lmao just casually throws it around corner mid convo
They do that all the time lol
The Easter Egg of what song you guys have on the screen will never get old for me. Love it.
Sweet spot trim is 50e, best of both worlds, Car & Driver achieved 3.9 0-60 test(exact same time they got fromM60), get 100+ MPGe as commuter if you charge at home, for $80K US w/ M Sport package (not including rebate if eligible)
I agree.
If I want to upgrade from 40i the 50e is a better option than the m60. 50e is one of the best plugs in on the market
50e gets air suspension too -- much more compliant than the M60i and adds some character when hooning.
Very hard to find them though. Gotta order them, and you can get a better deal on an iX with all the incentives.
As much as I love the 50e we’re seeing tons of charging unit issues and gearbox issues. To drive though it’s still the most compelling to me.
in Mar 2020 I bought a 2020 x5 40i after seeing your video on the 2019. It's been the best car I have bought till date and it's been quite a few cars. the B58 is truly God's engine and paired with that zf 8spd, it's glorious. I've done 74k miles in 4 years and I expect to hit 150k by 2028. I want to push it as far as I can and I believe she can take it all. It makes no sense buying a Cayenne or a range rover when we have this and the GLE shouldn't even be in this conversation. great video, as always. cheers
Range Rover is a different experience…it’s hard to compare. I agree with the Cayenne and GLE
@bradleyscarreviews yea, you're right on the range rover.
I completely resonate with the same. I have a September 2020 x40i and it has been great so far. In a 2000 mile road trip recently I got 26-28 mpg and it was so good to drive. No fatigue. I just had a steering column problem which was replaced under warranty
@@chrisnwanzejust remember I live in napa bougie land and 2023 rang rovers and land rovers are REGULARLY on the side of the rode lookin pretty with some older person sitting in there waiting for a tow truck. Like ughhhh I want one so bad but omg I’d like to arrive somewhere with out it breaking. Have a neighbor with a defender and omg this fool constantly has loaner vehicles… plot twist the discovery they gave him as a loaner broke too smh 🤦🏾♀️
No way it makes it to 150k
Morning geese, thanks for the drop and enjoy your week 🙌
Don't get the V8. The I6 has plenty of power and the V8 engine compartment is so cramped that repairs are more expensive if you plan to own long term.
Nah, get the V8:) it’s fun
Get the M50i not the M60i. M60i has been having a lot of issues due to the mild hybrid system.
@@Stakan79buying a BMW without it’s available 🅱️58 is silly.
Everything is already unnecessarily difficult as it is regardless
The new v8 is seriously fast
the quality of the video and how it's shot always hits me when I watch a savagegeese video 👏👏 love your work
thank you for making the nividia screen black. great video as always, you guys are incredible!
It is iDrive 8.5 just a more stripped down version. 2023 built BMW i4 also has this. Which means it still has the faster processor of 8.5 and new better layout compared to 8.0, but less gimmicks.
Isn’t it just 8.5? The android based cars with the new hardware format are iDrive 9 (incl the new Mini and so on). 7, 8, 8.5 all use variations of the MGU centered architecture.
Just bought the 4.0 Xdrive. Gave our 08 X5 to our son with 80,000 mile. New one drives great and love it. Hope to keep it 15 years.
Rented a 2024 X5 xDrive40i last week for my family vacation. We were impressed, it did a lot of things really well.
Those static shots under the car are incredible. So satisfying
According to the statistics gathered from my own shop, the latest iterations of BMW engines (especially the B58) are built substantially well. As long as you do your maintenance, these engines should reach 100K miles. But regardless, German engines run hotter. Their regulating coolant temps are 220-230F. And when running in extreme heat like Texas summers, plastic hoses will crack, gaskets will harden, etc.
Should reach 100k..?
You mean 200-300k there’s tons over 100k already, 100k is not high miles
I’ve seen BMWs run until 110-120K miles when their valve covers start leaking, or perhaps the lower oil pan.
100k miles is not a lot. It never has been.
I drove the I6 and the V8 versions of this car back-to-back, and I really really noticed the extra weight up-front in the V8. It felt significantly more ponderous through the corners, and by contrast the B58 variant felt downright light on its feet. This + the B58's reliability would lead me to pick that option every day of the week. It's also still quick and is significantly cheaper.
Agree. Or the 50e. The 50e comes with the air suspension which is really nice -- and zero trubo lag thanks to the battery. It's a real hoot to drive.
@@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow agreed with you there, the 50e is unironically awesome
Yeah, but people pick v8s for the sound and feeling, not because they’re the best option.
@@raneer_6567 honestly in this case I just don’t get it. It felt like driving a school bus to me.
I think the concept of sporty SUVs/CUVs is silly anyway.
Best car ever in term of usability and performance with the B58 engine, I still enjoy driving my X5 40i every time I get into it, thanks for your review it's always informative and enjoyable. I like your smiles when you rev the M60i
A beast of an SUV regardless of engine. I own one and it gives me a smile daily after a few years. I have to say I’m shocked the passenger doesn’t get car sick. I forget his name…. You guys are great!
9/10 mechanics recommend
really, maybe ask the car wizard what he thinks.
@@wally6193💨 The 1 in 10 is your friend looking out for you. The 9 are about that repeat-customer business.
@@wally6193 The wizard makes money off of negativity. He will claim any car is bad.
@japanwatchconnection he is isn't he, lol
The Wizard is the farthest thing from a Hack, if he did crap work he wouldn't survive especially working on high end cars.@japanwatchconnection
I love the depreciation of these things. I can pick these up around 5 years old for about half the price and as a DIYer, handle all maintenance tasks on the cheap.
Yep don’t we all know that. It’s always been this way.
8:34 - Slav King...LOL! Thanks guys, made my day.!
Great review. I've had mine for about 2 months and love it. I know the one you guys had didn't have air suspension but did did it have the optional adaptive anti-roll bars? (Adaptive suspension pro I think it's called)
The dissonance of talking up the infotainment system while it ignores repeated touch inputs @2:00 is immaculate. These systems should be outlawed for how dangerous the distraction is 😮💨
😂
give me knobs with tactile feedback all day everyday.
See, I used to think the same, then I observed myself and realized: Who gives a shit? When I drive all I do is, well driving. I do not fiddle about with the climate control, it is set to 21C and stays there, I do not fiddle about with the radio, because I have it off and I do not fiddle about with any settings, since I set them once when I get the car and then leave it. I really wanna know what ya'll are doing, when you should keep your eyes on the road?
@@leviathan5207 I'm fiddling
tbf they have retained the scroll wheel. I would be using that 99% of the time. It's one of the things that I like about BMW over Audi at the moment.
Great review! Would be great to get x5 50e review
Great video. Keep up the good awesome guys!
Great review! My lease on a 2021 BMW X5M Comp ended last week and I picked up my new 2024 X5 M60i instead. My new M60i is practically loaded with every option you can get and order, including but not limited to exterior carbon fiber mirror caps and side breathers. The power is more than what I need, it rides much better than my old X5MC, and it was much cheaper. I couldn't get the M seat belts, or cooled and heated cup holders, but instead, the M60i has the Integral Active Steering and the 4-wheel steering, which I love very much. I added the anti-roll stabilizer and overall the car handles really well.
BEST SUV.
Curious how the mdx-s stacks up against the base model, you guys seemed to love that in your review.
I've got 10k on my 24 type s and it has been exactly like their review. It isn't type s special like you'd want, fuel economy is so so, but it is so well put together and makes you smile when you want to push it some. I didn't look at a base X5 because I want to own for a long time and reliability and repair costs become a bigger issue
I owned a 22 MDX Type S w/ Advanced Package, optioned out, upgraded to the PHEV X5 50e for more hp believe it or not. Type S was great, 3rd Acura, great value proposition compared to base X5 40i for same $, HUD, cooled seats, adaptive air suspension, solid motor, had everything, also more rare than base X5, sweet rims, walk away closing rear tailgate, etc…. If I was going to have a car for 5 yrs, would pick Acura for reliability over base X5. For a Type “S” though, performance at 10/10 was slightly weak, + MPG wasn’t great. 50e is well over second faster to 60, faster 1/4 mile, plus way better MPG, but paid about $8K more than MDX. MDX S to base X5, MDX is more reliable, much lower maintenance. Need more performance, go 50e. Downside 50e, more complicated, need to charge, more things to fail
That’s the vehicle I’ve ordered. The Type S in Majestic Black.
Hey y’all, would love to see one of your tech videos focus on e-fuels and what the future holds on that front. Great video! I wish the x3’s still came in PHEV.
I heard X3 PHEV may come to US market in 2025. I hope it is true.
Same I have the 21 X3 PHEV and love it (EV range isn't great though) but will probably go to Tesla after this. Shame they discontinued it in the US.
The shifts sound very crisp! Nice!
These are very, very good. I rented a pre-facelift one in Germany last summer and although it was a base 30d I found it to be absolutely fantastic over 1,000 KM of mixed city / autobahn driving. We're on our second Cayenne and my wife asked for another because we loved the first one so much but after driving the X5....I'm wondering a bit where my extra money went. That last 5% of an improvement costs you a lot. I'm glad I got the pre-facelift Cayenne as I believe the price jumped even more and the quality is lower. Edit: it's funny Jack said that last 5-10%. because I said that before even watching the video. LOL. He completely made my same point. I ordered the pre-facelift Cayenne as a hybrid, because it was better than the X5 45e. But the new 50e is comparable to the Cayenne. If I had to do it again...I'd probably get the BMW. Net net, it is $85k vs. $115k.
I own the 45 e and I wonder what you mean by better? Cus the price and the low ev range meant the cayenne was out. Curious about your experience 😊
@@LafemmebearMusicCayenne had more range and more power than 45e in EV mode. find the 45e to be underpowered compared to the Cayenne hybrid (2023, the battery was upgraded in 2021). Now the 50e and the refreshed Cayenne are the same for each, range and power.
Why doesn't BMW offer the Bowers and Wilkins on the X5 40i? Seems like they're leaving money on the table. I mean, there has to be decent margins on that $3,400 option, but I don't see people willing to step up to the M60i in order to buy it.
Chip shortage. They took it off everything but the top models it seems. I wanted a 550i and they removed it as an option but it was still available on the 850i.
I don't think you need the B&W with the latest HK system, and in at least two tests, the HK sounded _better_ IMO. See my comments in this BMW X5 audio review: kzhead.info/sun/jdprp7aPpXmhg4E/bejne.html&lc=Ugz1djPnBYZe8JTIvKx4AaABAg
YOU guys are the best 👍
Hey Jack, love your videos! That X5 is ID8.5 with quick select!
My takeaway is....I should get a 2019 or 2020 X5 40i with the M Sport package for 35k to 40k.
Exactly. Way better value.
I got 24mpg on a roadtrip in the LCI X6M competition last year going about 85mph on average. I agree with Jack, having some half decent fuel economy so you can get some driving range on your roadtrips is nice to have. Oh and it’s still fast af. Great SUV. Great review.
24mpg in a v8tt x6m going 85mph? Did I read that right lol that’s impressive
Would get this X5 or the Cayenne S?
@@Chazlovesburnoutsfor all shit bmw gets and deserves they do have a good hand at making powerplants with good grunt, great economy considering the their output and still a touch of top-of-the-rev-range pizazz
If yours is anything like my X3M Comp, fuel economy is a jeckyl and hyde thing. It's either awesome or terrible... no in between. I took a 400 mile road trip and it made it all the way there (just barely) on 1 tank of fuel averaging 25.5 mpg and 25.1 mpg the trip back avg around 75 mph both trips. Around town driving though, it's avg about 15~17mpg and burns through a tank every 250~270 miles. No regrets though. It's an absolutely hilarious vehicle but still hella practical for my working dad life.
I bought the sedan version of this car (M550i) because of exactly what you said, I wanted a V8 and nothing else! It is an amazing car and I get near M5 performance for a lot less money and a way better everyday driving experience than the true M car. Oh and as you also said, if you can get these cars a couple of years old, they are an incredible value! I got my 2021 M550i that had an MSRP of $90k for $58k with a BMW certified warranty! This car kind of achieves the same thing in the SUV category. I agree that the Cayenne is better but not so much better that it justifies the significant premium. If money was no issue, then I'd get a Cayenne Turbo GT. My wife has the B58 version of this car and it is such a great vehicle! The engine is awesome, the transmission is near perfect and the car is super comfortable with a very capable adaptive suspension to match. No one does luxury SUV's better than BMW at a price that is still somewhat affordable!
Looking Forward to your video on the new Charger, please do one on the two door, the 4 door, and of course, most importantly, the gas powered version when it comes out
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I love to see a 2024 X5 40i review later because m60i is beyond my budget and I heard there is a noticeable upgrade of power in X5 40i this year
In my opinion, the upgrade in power IS NOT very noticeable. I mean it's slightly quicker, but nothing huge. The big difference is in the Hybrid model (50e). That one is is a beast! Source: I upgraded from a 2020 40i, to a 2024 40i.
I have 3 BMWs and I like to do whatever maintenance I can but your review makes the 4RUNNER make alot of sense.
Have a 2021 M50i. Bought a CPO last summer with mileage in the low 20s for a $30k discount with a massive extended warranty. Eats miles in silence and it’s quick. I think of it as the replacement for the 2001 740i just quieter and way quicker. Handles ok, but shines on long road trips.
Up to 107K for an X5 which was the 'midrange' BMW SUV...insane
I felt like the X5 was always a bit more up there in the range since day one. I don't see mnay of em and they have always been crazy expensive. But 100k is definitely bizarre
At that price point, it’s only with the V8s, the i6 are around $70k.
You’re reaching there bud, they start at 65k great job picking out the fully loaded version and acting like they all cost that much.
My dad bought a brand new X5 back in 06’ for $70K, which considering inflation would be $100K in todays money. Nothing has changed, except now we get a better car for our money.
The X5 M60i is top tier. People who buy them are far superior to most other human beings. Okay, I'm being slightly silly, but I seriously love mine.
Congrats...most of us will never know the BMW experience. And I am not slightly exaggerating.
I don’t have one. Can I be your friend?
@@kwilliams1958If you want BMW experience, find an E34 or E39 M5.
@@F_JoeBiden-tu6cl With your username, you can most certainly be my friend! 😆
@@F_JoeBiden-tu6cl I also have an e46 M3.
Love the X5 especially with the air suspension. I’ve rented several of them. Best luxury car you can buy for under ~$80k new. The plug-in hybrid X5 is an excellent option as well.
Wonderful review.. i like the car very much. I'm convinced this is sheer driving pleasure 😅
B58 all the way has so much potential easy to work on!!
Lol, tell me about replacing a heater core. Easy? 😂😂😂😂
@@bassandtrebleclefTo be fair he was taking about the B58 engine…not the heater core.
@@bassandtrebleclef The heater core on any car is a pain in the ass to change.
I got the 2021 X5 40i and I'm still impressed how great it drives. I've always been a sedan guy but two kids and a wife effectively made it mandatory to get an suv.
I agree with you. I'm very anti-SUV but this is one of the few that I'd consider.
5 series wagon !!
@@redwhite_040 not sold in the USA. Also the new 5 series seems so crappy to me compared to the last gen
8:50 On the road 11:00 vs Cayenne 13:00 *Best all around SUV* 14:00 B58 >> V8 15:55 vs commodity SUVs 16:45 Gold standard X5 40i
@savagegeese I hope you guys will have the opportunity to review the F-Pace SVR. I'll be curious to know your thoughts aince it's a cheper alternative to the X5M. thx and great review video
This
Got my X5 M60i literally a week ago. Loving it! My very first SUV, and it's so very practical as a daily driver. The rear wheel steering and the split tail gate are awesome, and the 530 HP costs much less than what you would need to shell out for a Cayenne. Forget X5M. All you get for it is a louder engine, but you also have to forgo things like air suspension. M60i is the way to go.
I hate to tell you, but wait 2 years and see how happy you are. We traded ours in after 3 years and took a major loss. These vehicles are nice on paper, but ownership is another thing. Endless issues and endless dead batteries.
@@theaviator06 It's a lease under my company name and I will be trading it in after 40 months or so. As for depreciation, my previous lease was an M5 with even worse depreciation so I know what I am in for.
Nice. My wife's got an X3, and recently rented an X5 and, frankly, loved the X5. I'm trying to convince my wife to upgrade. 😂 She thinks the X5 would be too big. Idk if it's really worth it or not as she doesn't care about the performance.
I love my X5 M50i. The whole G05 platform is amazing.
Have the 2020 M50i. Boy do I love it. Keeping it as long as I can.
Great review I’m curious what your full review would be of the 2023 or 2024 X5M . Please add it your re future list thx!!!
The "lease this car" because of how much it depreciates argument rarely makes any sense. Lease payments are primarily determined by depreciation. And, unless the manufacturer is subsiding the lease program more than the buy/rebate program or you can take advantage of specific tax laws (which are generally not applicable to the typical W2 employee), the lease payments will usually cost you more than the depreciation, otherwise the captive or other finance co. that is leasing you the vehicle would lose money.
@@japanwatchconnection But the average person, who wants nothing to do with reselling a vehicle, or even servicing it over the long term, gets what they perceive as a lower monthly payment that doesn't really change after the 36/48/50 month lease period. All they know is they trade keys for a brand new vehicle, which is all that matters to them.
The main advantage of the lease is that the lease company takes the risk that they can sell the car for the residual value. Financing now also favors new cars versus used due to lower financing rates. I do agree that CPO makes a lot of sense with most BMWs.
@@42dunbar correct regarding the lease company taking the risk on what the car will be worth at the end of the lease, but they charge for that. It’s another reason why the lease payments usually end up being more than the depreciation.
Depreciation is usually the 1/3 of the cost of the vehicle - and the lease payments covers that first 1/3.
@japanwatchconnectionSo much that isn’t accurate here. If you care about money as you wrote, you don’t pay cash for cars that depreciate with each passing year. Invest that cash in real estate. Also, the dealer sells the cars 2 time after the lease return comes back, they don’t sell a car over and over. You are describing what happens at “Buy Here, Pay Here, lots that repossess cars every few months. Those are profit centers. Dealers make their profit in the maintenance department and parts department.
perfect car for your wife as she drives over the curb in the starbucks drive thru on her way to pick up her boyfriend from the gym.
Drove them all the last 2 weeks. Hands down this is the best. And it isn't even close.
m here for the driving skills😂😂😂... m i the only one that sees those hush brakes and quick turns...like wow!!! The beemer was really holding it down. nice!!!
lease and dump
Do it so I can buy a CPO one in a couple years.
$109k for the non M is wild.
The thumbnail shot with the shadow over the front makes it look like the 2nd gen X5. And that's a good thing.
Traded my 2021 X5 40i on a 2024. Love it more power adaptive suspension and M Sport Package. Wanted a Cayenne in 2020 but too expensive and dealer not responsive. Great deal on X5 and better all around. Love the B58 engine. Technology takes a little getting used. Yes, I’m probably their parents age but have owned sports cars including a 911 Carrera 4, so still an enthusiast!
Really nice review
The Bowers & Wilkins audio system is phenomenal (and yes, very expensive).
I have to agree with almost everything put out in this review. I bought a 21 X5 M50i with 13k on the clock for 64k as a daily driver. It has every option and except dynamic handling. With 315’s on the rear I have no complaints about the handling. Canyon roads out west are a blast for an SUV. The Bowers and Wilkins sound makes you feel like you’re at a concert. The power is so satisfying. I drive7 is very simple to learn and quick to access the main functions of the car. My only critique is the steering inputs are not quite as smooth as the Cayenne. The MB and Audi competition doesn’t come close to what you get with the M50 in my opinion. I did spend an extra 4k for a 24 month bumper to bumper warranty and maintenance package due to the potential very high service costs associated with owning a vehicle like this. My two cents.
Guys, thx for the great content. A couple of weeks ago you weren’t exactly thrilled with the 5 sedan. What’s so different (other than size) that’s makes you rave about the X5 but are lukewarm with the sedan?
@japanwatchconnectionyep. The electrification push may ruin the X5, as it has ruined the new 5. Only so much R&D dollars to go around, and you can’t design a separate body, chassis and suspension for ICE and electric versions.
I have owned a BMW X3. They are nice SUVs but not cheap to buy or maintain. Nice review. Thanks.
Could you do a review of the X3 M40i? You did the base X3 some years back, and the X3M more recently.
Personally, I think the best X5 and X6 you can buy is from 2020-2023. It looks amazing, has great drivetrains and features like the B58 and buttons for many things like climate. Also now you can start getting a used one for less than MSRP and hopefully in good condition :D That’s the year range I’d like to help get for my dad :)
What was the name of the song playing at the start of "Final Thoughts?" Sounds chill as hell. plz & ty
I had an x5 back wanna say late 90s. Loved the car except I’m convinced when you hit 70+k miles on it, someone in Germany presses a button and car starts bleeding oil and then all other sorts of expensive problems. My x5 actually shut down middle of night while driving w friends on a ski trip Cause was the software needed to be updated. My question, has the reliability, bug issues gotten better with this car? I still miss it a lot and 2024 looks nice but I can do without the maintenance headaches that I had. Good video. 👍🏻
More systems and software = more bugs or what the developers would call “features “
For 2023 BMW is rated #1 by Consumer Reports in safety, reliability, performance beating out Subaru, Lexus, Porsche, Honda, Toyota, etc
@@carloslopez9486 Big asterisks on that. First, it's for the COMBINATION of those three traits and others; it doesn't mean they're the best at each one. Second, it's an averaged rating across all their models, which is pretty meaningless when you're buying only one.
Does consumer reports still have credibility? I seriously question this…. @@carloslopez9486
Thanks Mark and Jack for detailed reviews! Hwever, I think that he Jags drive much better. When are you going to review the corresponding jags?
Agree 100% with all your comments on the cayenne vs X5 comparison. I had a 17 X5, now drive a 22 cayenne, and recently rented a 23 x5 for a week. Based on my experience, one of the important things you did not mention is, cayenne PCM sucks, Bluetooth connectivity is awful, it does not even come close the any version of iDrive. To me the argument is simple, if you want just the driving experience, go for a cayenne, if you want a vehicle you need to use everyday for life, its x5. I am going back to x5 next year. Thanks for the great video guys.
After owning numerous Porsches over the year I went back to BMW as well. The price delta for the difference in performance is so small, that it`s just now worth it to me any longer.
I have a 2023 X3 M40i... Same red exterior... I've already driven it 16K miles, and I love it
I got a new x6 x40i msport recently, and I'm blown away by the solidity, refinement, and efficiency. Bmw says it has 375hp, but allegedly it has 400-440, and I'm averaging 24mpg in mixed driving with loads of stop and go. My focus st got an average of 21mpg, just lol at the 5k lb tank with 400hp beating it. Everything just works really, really well. Is it a sports car? Nope. Is it fast, frugal, and comfortable? Yes.
Just ordered the X5 50e the other week, even has government subsidies in my country, as a PHEV. Obviously going to be leased.
Saw one the other day and had to make a comment how the lighting on the rear turn signals is attrocious. Never mind the fact they BMW refuses to have separate amber signals (Mercedes and Audi are starting to introduce them now), but on the X5, the LED's light up from a low output to high output instead of high to low. Not sure how best to describe it other than many Mazda's have their amber turn signals fade from bright to low but BMW is the opposite. Had someone on the highway trying to change lanes and you could barely see the lighting, espcially during the day time.
In Europe, you can also get in line six 3.0l Diesel engines 300, 350km. That can let you drive up to 600 miles on one tank. I got with my 30d from Poland to Italy.
Eyeing one of the PHEV 50e models for my wife's next vehicle for sure
When do I get MY midcycle refresh?
I bought my X5 because of its efficiency. No, fuel cost doesn't matter to me. But I enjoy the BMW tech that gives me more power with less fuel than competitors. I hit 30mpg between la and sf on freeway. I'm on Jack's side on that statement. It is very nice to be stopping by gas station once or twice a month is very convenient.
I drove the 8, bought the 2024 40i. No, fuel costs don’t matter that much to me either, but the six is also quick, more reliable than the 8, lighter, and I love the highway mileage.
@@DaveP-uv1ml what's interesting is BMW at some point in 2010s began recommending minimum 89 octane. My previous 2009 x5's minimum was 91. I havent tested but since 89 is the minimum on 2019 and forward, it would still get the same efficiency, less some power loss i think
You guys are so right, I debated a Porsche Cayenne vs BMW X5 in 2015. I went with the X5 50 and loved it, owned it for 8 years before trading it in for a Porsche Macan. The main issue I saw was a similar Cayenne was 22k more than an X5 and was smaller. We have a truck now we use for truck stuff, F150 and the Macan for a drivers car. The X5 was the best all around 2 row suv, miss that V8 of that car. Could not recommend the X5 more.
😂😂 "I'm tired of your big oil agenda Jack" 😂😂
I live for Jack's big oil agenda! And his EV bashing. All that good stuff.
Well Done.
I have a 2019 X5 4.0 with 40k miles. I leased it for 3 years and bought it off lease during covid because of unavailability of a replacement vehicle. I am now "stuck" with the vehicle because I haven't driven anything I like better. Drives and handles fantastically, Not a fan of IDrive 8.0. Guess I'm stuck for a while.
You'll eventually be stuck.
Ha Ha. Maybe so !!! Won't keep it past about 80 k miles for sure
No one: No one at all: Mark: 😐
Good job Jack
@savagegeese I’m not one to complain, but if I have to subscribe to your Patreon to see the NSX mini doc I will. Which leads me to the question, will the NSX mini doc be finished and posted before Dec 25, 2024?
2020-2021 X3 M40i is a fantastic Midsize SUV, without any of the MHEV "junk". Revised, simplified, more powerful B58 (B58D, 2nd gen) and pure ICE enjoyment.
x5 40i m sport and x7 40i m sport are the best ones to get... decently reliable and enough power with stage 1
Too slow.
As a current owner of an 23 M850i and a 24 X5 50 e (i have both engines, the hybrid B58 and the 4.4 V8) at my disposal I have to say the price delta of give or take $20k is not worth it. Yes, the V8 is 0.3 seconds faster but in real world driving the difference is hardly noticable. I drove both and decided on the hybird as a daily for economical reasons.
Do not forget that B58 in the new X5 has direct and also port injection. So one think to less worry about in the long term.
This will be our next suv to replace our old Vw Touareg, we won't lease we buy in cash and keep for around 10 years since the mileage will be around 10k a year. The treg is still on the original battery and we just replace the $2200 brakes as it's barely at 75k miles and 2017. We aren't worried about depreciation on it, we just don't like having massive payments continuously considering I'm the commuter and own a 330i also that gets replace several years sooner due to the mileage and point of substantial repairs. We've found a nice blend of savings and enjoyment of our money and that's how we do it. Commuting cost are absolutely silly nowadays on everything.
Beware the x5 has terrible rear legroom
Yep I agree , best to buy cash if u're in position.I hate the monthly payments on my 4 series
Awesome. I replaced my beloved VW Touareg Hybrid with an M60i. I loved my Touareg, but this thing is a whole new level of awesomeness.
Can you guys make a list of luxury vehicles you would purchase & keep? New or CPO.