2025 Toyota Camry | The Forever Car Done Right
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We do a first drive review on the new 2025 Toyota Camry. While on the surface, this may seem like an evolution, we discuss the changes to the car. While the V6 is gone, changes to the hybrid system and handling make this one of the most interesting Camrys. Which would you choose? The Honda Accord, Hyundai Sonata, or Nissan Altima?
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Index:
00:00 Changes to the Car
3:05 Interior and Exterior
5:43 Driving and Design Philosophy
15:36 Final Thoughts
7:25 this is not something you should be singing about. Toyota is known for its reliability, not for being a money pit.
The reliability should still be high. But in this era of sedans that alone is not enough to keep sedans around. They have to do more thats why this Camry exists.
@japanwatchconnection recalls are part of what keeps a car reliable, no?
@@LiteHedded But it also means it was not done right the first time. Poorer components, faulty design or bad manufacturing practices. Maybe a lot of customers went through the pain and reported issues before they have to go for recalls. Recalls were rare back in the day.
@@raknoknakrecalls were rare “back in the day” because there was no reason for auto companies to issue them other than ethics, which is a tenuous motivation for corporations. In modern times you face consequences if you try to hide problems
@@Courtesyflush52 Disagree. Models from the early 2000s rarely had the kind of issues we see when the latest gen RAV4 came out for example. I have owned many toyotas and follow the recalls and problems closely. Toyota reliability has gone down considerably.
“A great experience for someone who just wants a car that’s functional as an appliance but also doesn’t feel like a total shit box”. Send that to the marketing department.
Prob would increase sales
Basically the Camry motto since the beginning. 😄 But they're great cars for that purpose.
No need, they already know. Their job is how to say it, but without saying it.
By total shitbox he meants vw
@@SuperMrBentley I wish I could argue that... But VW has lost its way. They should be taking lessons from Toyota.
For all the Camry complaints, I appreciate your continued honesty on the experience. As a middle income home owner, I need a car to perform all the roles. Commuting, shopping, family, errands, road trips, and just occasionally a fun detour. Thank you for risking the mundane.
This car won't do it though. CvT + Hybrid? Joke af
@@Jimster481Toyota's been doing a cvt/hybrid for the last 30 years. I'd be more worried about the price of those headlights or the infotainment unit. That's where the cost of ownership is going to spike.
@@DM-iu1wn As someone who has a hybrid camry that has already needed the batteries replaced, Toyota going hybrid only is the biggest mistake in the long run.
@@andrewyoung1313I'm sorry to hear that, hybrid is going to be the only way these large manufacturers are going to be able to hit epa guidelines. I'd rather have a Toyota hybrid than a gm hybrid.
@@DM-iu1wn either way unfortunately these new cars won't be lasting as long as the ones from the 90s. It's really a shame
The screen being integrated into the dashboard makes me unbelievably happy. It looks so much better than an iPad glued on top of the dashboard
Probably the ONLY good thing about this car. The rest looks like a total disaster.
@@Jimster481 I disagree. It looks better and reviewers are saying it drives better as well.
I want to buy a Toyota but the current gen has the tv glued to the dash and that screams "I'll break as soon as a kid tugs on me". Following Tesla's design practice is dumb. Toyota was acting like a pathetic little sibling. I'm glad they grew up and went back to making an automobile and not a cheap gimmick.
@@Jimster481just like you
Looks great. There's a reason it's the best selling sedan in the world
In a sea of SUVS we're now at a point where sedans like Camry bring back some notion of composed handling, overall value and no gimmicks. Good luck everybody. 😂
I never thought a Camry would be a pseudo sport sedan. Dark times
@@ADUSNAlthough that can be just as much improvements to the Camry as losses elsewhere.
This is a the actual vehicle 70% of the American driving public need, not another soulless CUV
@@EssenceofPureFlavor I feel like the whole car industry has been brought up to a point, obv that's good for the consumer that everything has a standard of quality etc. But also BMW and other 'sporty' brands are bloated electronic messes, which is kind of where the market is in general right now. The Camry is better, but the market is worse.
@@colin-nekritz A sedan isn't a very good daily. This is more of a second or even third car. A hatchback or wagon makes a lot more sense.
hoping to buy this in 2040
😂😂 right!
There’ll be lots in this condition by then still
I'm dead! Used Toyos and Hondas really are the sweetest deals
the moment I realized Im blessed. I bought a brand new is500 last month
Just like the Prius 2040
I must be getting old because this looks great to me. ("Great" now means "a smart way to spend your money.")
I'm with you there. Over the hill and losing it!
Same here.
Ditto 👴
absolutely
Agreed! I’d rather split a Ranger Raptor and BMW M240i with the wife….. but this is great too😅. I must be getting old as well.
Toyota was serious when they said "no more boring cars" and I'm a here for it
Right? Even the Prius looks good now
Gotta say, even as a Honda fanboy, even though this thing is hideous to look at, they worked on it where it counts. And they're on a roll with the rest of their lineup.
The CVT and killing off the V6 make this a boring car now unfortunately
@@pabo8080 just buy a 2024 then. This car is 0.5 seconds slower than the v6 in the 0-60 and I couldn't give two less shits about it because it gets 45 mpg. We NEED hybrids. One EV can make like 25 hybrids.
Wrong. Toyotas failing miserably at it Most Toyotas don’t drive all that great compared to other brands like Hyundai Kia Mazda Honda
My parents bought a new Camry in 2002 for $20K. Fast forward 22 years and 200K+ miles, they just sold it for $4000. Good deal! And it still drives like new too; nothing ever went wrong. They loved it.
If you adjust that 20k for inflation, your parents spent $35k in today's dollars for their 2002 Camry
@@sachinnair91Camry used to be much more expensive. 1992-1996 camry ran into the high 30K to low 40K when adjusted for inflation, and that’s before taxes, registration, and fees
@@sachinnair91dang, pretty on par with todays then. Good to know thanks
Still have my 2002 Camry w almost 200,00. Its not sexy but it gets me where I'm going. 😊
Then they were stupid to sell such a great car. Hold those things for forever.
The thing nobody ever mentions about 16" rims is you'll get better mpg, lower NVH, less tire wear, and better ride comfort. Large rims creates more problems than it solves. This is coming from someone who used to hop up Civics back in the day. Oh yeah, you also get worse acceleration.
there's only one problem large rims are able to solve. and that is not enough space for big enough brakes. which is obviously not an issuee on any normalîsh car.
@@anonym3017well, that and steering feel.
Very true! Plus small brakes in large wheels just look daft. Always fit the smallest rims that fit around the front brakes. Want bigger wheels? Should have bought the more powerful model with bigger brakes. I don't get the large wheel obsession at all.
Also cheaper tires. Less maintenance cost.
@@ryanmcfarland1900 provided you are in a vehicle where tyre sidewall is the limiting factor. which you aren't until you go to very sporty, no SUVs and trucks can't fall under that category, vehicles. so just go with the smallest rims the manufacturer offers.
I'm glad "bigger" sedans are still a priority at Toyota and Honda, wish Mazda would get back in the game with a dope 6.
Mazda is planning on one supposedly. They filed a trademark for the name “Mazda 6e” which could possibly be a Mazda 6 with the CX-90’s mild hybrid inline-6 system
@@marco.morel046e is a Chinese market electric model, it’s been unveiled there already it’s a rebadged domestic car there
@@marco.morel04A Mazda 6 with the cx90s inline 6 would be a bmw fighter. Hope it actually comes to fruition
@@marco.morel04that would be so sweet, we need more inline 6s, glad dodge has one now
@@marco.morel04more like a pure electric Mazda 6
I sold Toyota cars in 1994 when they made a Camry station wagon. Toyota never gave us enough of those. As soon as one came on the lot it sold. They discontinued that model because of poor sales. Those low numbers were their doing. Would love to another Camry wagon.
I mean...a Camry wagon is basically the Venza, unless you wanted a Camry 'Cross'. The Crown Signia is coming soon too
@@imnotsqiddy The Venza is too tall and has no roof rails. I need a wagon to haul my kayaks to the lake and pick up some lumber at Lowes. I'm forced to buy Euro stuff because the Japanese don't cater to that market. Subaru to some extent but they keep getting taller so loading the roof calls for a step ladder.
I would go buy a Camry wagon TODAY if it became a reality. And an actual wagon, not some super curved backend that steals all the cargo space.
So Toyota was like “yeah we made only 120 station wagons, but we only sold 120 station wagons”?
@@imnotsqiddyVenza is a crossover.
I am the Camry man. Cars owned: Camry, Avalon, Yaris, Camry, and the last Avalon.
I'm sorry. That said I have spent over 10k on 2 ~2000 Camry's (including repairs and one an engine... cuz car was great but previous owner was like 'oil light is on lemme drive 10 miles home to show my husband'-- it made it home, but only 2 blocks after getting oil ---NOT MY WIFE-, just wanted to add--) recently just setting up young fam with cars they would have to be negligent to kill.
Daring aren't we!
All boring cars live a little driving should be fun too
What was it like going from an Avalon to a Yaris?
there was a toyota yaris sort of thing called matrix, 2.4 liter inlien3 like camry in small car. this same drivtrain in this new camery stuff, in compact 4 seater that sint so tall in height... maybe 56 mpg instead of 46 , maybe 60
Finally a normal looking car in 2024 and not something a try hard 40year old stuck in kindergarten drew.
Hanz
Nah that car has no identity, it doesn't evev look like it's supposed to be a Camry. Toyota designers just throws shit on the wall and hope something sticks.
@zZiL341yRj736 completely disagree. Toyota is in the middle of rolling out a new design language. Now this and the prius are the new face and going forward all Toyota are gonna look like this and it's far better than the precious generation.
The dash is way too busy with too many angles.
I would buy one and drop the 4 cyl and install the 302 hp 3.5 V6 from the Lexus.
I usually write jokes or bullshit in the comment section but the Camry is such a reliable car. My parents have an 05 Camry SE, with 446,000 miles. That car is insanely reliable and although it’s not a hybrid, Camrys are a great choice. Also, TuxMat is my new Dad
Not anymore. Not like the old ones
I read 44,600 at first, but then… 💀
That car was reliable. This new car won't be nearly as reliable. It will require regular battery pack replacements every 4-7 years if you want to maintain "peak" performance (which it really never is even after the first year of use on a new pack). It'll all sorts of other issues...along with any major recalls that'll also likely come along. All that besides the fact of how horrible CVTs/eCVTs are to drive...especially with that damn droning. Honda's not as bad, cause they fake shift logic...still hate those things tho.
@@BigBear--no toyota hybrids dont require new battery packs in 4 to 7 years. Ask a taxi driver with 400 to 500K miles or clicks. EVs are gonna be much worse .
@@28naveenator27van What kills the batteries is time. A Taxi driver will get much more miles out of a battery because he drives a lot in a shorter period. These cars WILL require a battery swap in their life which is an expense you must save for or sell the car before that shit happens
Glad to see an actual car (not an SUV), that is affordable, and well thought-out without all of the current car tropes. Interior and ergonomics in particular address pretty much all of my complaints with today's cars. I hope they sell a ton of them and that other carmakers learn something from it and follow suit.
@japanwatchconnection Everything in the segment is an appliance. When the Camry is even trusted as a great car for all sorts of commutes, even for fleet sales, then it's clearly the benchmark in quality.
I hope we get expandable thigh support at some point. I hear thigh support is pretty nice. I'd like to try it someday...on a Camry.
@japanwatchconnection Not even reliability?
32k for that car isn't bad. Tough to not get a car like this as a commuter that also is used as a family car.
Might as well add another 5K on from the dealership
@@The_MEMEphis dealer markup?
I feel like the civic SI for 29k is a better option
@haseebali803 1.5T from Honda is not the greatest motor. My wife's CRV has one and thankfully it's been great but it seems like a lot of people are having issues with it.
@@The_MEMEphisyou can easily find Toyotas without markups.
Dealers will figure out how to get this to like $40k
Just like the Prius, you won’t find one for 32 thousands
You can option the XSE to like 41K MSRP.
So true. We have to come up with 5 to 8k for the South East/Gulf Coast dealer/stealership network
Greedy bastards never learn 😂
Everyone has a Camry story. Amazing car.
Never owned or driven a Toyota, actually.
I learned to drive on my mom's 97 Camry. The simplicity and good ergonomics of that car spoiled me and makes me confused how some cars still have shitty confusing interiors when Toyota figured it out in 1997.
We bought a 1998 Camry V6 for a friend who needed a car. It had 120,000 miles on it, a CEL, and a valve cover leak. Fixed the VC leak, replaced the gas cap and reset the light, and that thing is still on the road with well over 300,000 miles on it. Brakes, exhaust and tires. That's it. Amazing.
My first car is a 2002 XLE, 16,000 trouble free miles and I redline it every day ❤
@Jazzmaster1992 neither did i until my 21 rav4 xse hybrid, will be my last toyota. They are so circle jerked online its totally bias info, they are boring as fuck and do not have the reliability of old.
"And the new CVT is really not that bad to live with." The loud droning every time Jack stepped on the gas told me something different.
Camry is a champion. Hybrid is a big plus. There is no mistake that the best Japanese car brands (Lexus, Toyota, Mazda, Subaru, Acura, Honda - plus Suzuki and Mitsubishi outside US) are the most reliable and low TCO (= Total Cost of Ownership) car brands.
No one understands how reliable the hybrid system are this is definitely my next daily
@@mez6256 Yup - you'd think it would be LESS reliable, but there's no starter, no alternator, a super simple transmission (ecvt is not the same as a dreaded belt-driven cvt). They're tanks
I got tense and then you didn't mention Nissan. I defluffed and love you
@@kloroformd, sorry, I should've put also Nissans that solved their past problems (e.g. Jatco CVT). Or very old Nissans.
@@codincoman9019 Nissans did what now? Old Nissan is good, new Nissan (past 2 decades) is garbage. I appreciated that you left the garbage at the curb. And I am stating this from the neutral point of average vehicles. Meaning CVT. Manual transmission Nissans are still alright.
Toyota is my favourite brand now. I mean look at their line up, they have a bit of everything. The Supra and GR86 are proper sports cars. If you like off roading, their TRD Pro models are very competent. And for the normal folks that just wants a car that works and is functional, they have that as well. They don’t fall too much into the gimmicky stuff and over style designs, while offering great tech and cohesive looking cars.
Except for their RAV for and highlander ... I hate those cars they way they look and drive and is expensive
@@cyrilmatthew2995They're for SUVtards, helps fund the good cars
I've never heard anyone call the Camry an "old man's luxury box," that was more Avalon's thing. The last-gen was pretty dynamic already.
i thought the avalon got killed
Dynamic? No
@@bradhaines3142 Avalon did get killed off, but "old man lux box," never slid to Camry.
First time I’ve ever heard someone describe the camry as dynamic
@@mr.iloveroblox2577 Christ. Obviously not as dynamic as a god**** vehicle twice its price but for the market the Camry's in, the last gen was dynamic.
I love that the Camry keeps a low belt-line with big open windows for visibility. Completely debunks the myth that new cars need high belt-lines and tiny windows for safety. It's done because less glass is cheaper.
@japanwatchconnection Everyone always says new cars have small windows for 'crash safety' or something. They use smaller windows because it's cheaper and because it looks 'sexy'. I wanna be able to see outside the damn car
@japanwatchconnection the sheetmetal does nothing for safety whatsoever. so any thickness is good enough. and sound obviously doesn't actually mean anything either. as is shown by plenty of old doors that sound really solid but are complete and utter garbage in a side impact while new doors with a light sound are actually safe.
I agree with the visibility even Honda's are like that I reckon. ...
@japanwatchconnection fun fact: that "thunk" you hear when you close an "expensive-sounding" car is an engineered sound. It has nothing to do with how hollow, heavy, or big a car door is (or vice versa). Nor does it have to do with how expensive a car is, for that matter. You can just as easily make the door closures on a hunk of shit from the 1970s sound just as good as a modern-day SUV if you get the fitment and weatherstripping placement just right. But doing that on a production line churning out thousands of cars a day is a LOT harder - and therefore more expensive, as it is time-consuming and requires human input.
But they made the beltline higher on GR86. Which makes that car looks LAME compared to the previous gen personally to me.
Well done, Toyota. Well done, Jack & Dr. Goose.
Toyota hitting some home runs lately.
No they haven’t. All of them have been swings and misses
@@naveenthemachinecry more😂😂
have you heard about the recalls and the fbi investigation? lol
Australian here. I drove an Australian made, 1996 XV10 "Widebody" 2.2 L 4 cyl Camry for 14 years. A car so reliable that I still see them on the road fairly regularly. I have sat in a current model XV70 Camry and as a bigger guy (6ft tall with a long torso and having put on the pounds over the years) I was surprised that despite the exterior large car dimensions that the Camry lacked head room and partly due to an overly wide centre console (between driver and passenger) and intrusive door cards, the lateral (side to side) space was lacking. I hope that have addressed these issues in the 2025 XV80 model, assuming that Australia gets it or I will have to look for a suitable SUV. My current drive is an Australian made 2011 Toyota Aurion... based on the Camry but with the 2GR-FE V6 3.5L engine.
If I was looking for a sedan, this would be the only choice. Toyota nailed it, again.
Yeah, since less and less companies are making these kinds of cars, the Camry stands out even more than it used to. I think companies will realise that they are basically letting Toyota walk over them with the Camry in what they initially thought was a 'less popular segment'
Why not Rolls Royce?
@@rickygforce4217 if GM and Ford actually built reliable cars, they could still be in this segment.
@@davidp.4727 Their whole philosophy is "when it fails, drop it" instead of "when it fails, fix it".
@@davidp.4727they are totally uninterested and only want to build vehicles with INSANE profit margins.
The single drivetrain and global platform , while full of compromises, is probably the most cost effective way to make a dynamic driving experience. I’ll Jump on the “hybrid is not for me” wagon but I think this will continue to crush in sales . A market efficient vehicle that looks improved. Great video
If I could get my wife, who only likes and drives appliances, to get out of her CUV mindset, I’d be all over buying one of these as our next car.
You could just grow a pair of balls and buy one anyway.
Maybe your wife's boyfriend can buy you one.
💀
@@aygwm you’re single, never kissed a girl, and live in your mom’s basement, we get it.
Unfortunately a lot of women insist on only driving huge SUVs, I wonder if they're overcompensating for something
This is so much better than Accord now, Honda made a big step back imo. Good job from toyota
Honda's aversion to putting AWD in sedans outside of the TLX continues to baffle me
@@InvictusRed1911 the toyota hybrid AWD system is very meh .
@@BassRacerx Anything hybrid is cursed already.
@@InvictusRed1911 SH-AWD remains the trade-up card they withhold from Hondas (except Pilot) to upsell you to Acura.
@@BassRacerx the new ones are great, they have torque vectoring so I just slow down before corners and floor it when I turn, no under/oversteering at all. No idea why nobody talks about it. 60 lb ft of torque is plenty enough, you can fishtail easily when doing left turns in the snow.
0W-8 oil. That is wild
No way I'm using 0W-8 oil.
That’s apple juice
@@FlexSZN23man.. I spit my drink out reading this!
Soon we'll have 0w-0.
@@lotsofcurveslover The best gas mileage is when you're engine blows up. Who pays for that?
I had a few gripes with previous camry: 1) awful driver's seat, felt like sitting on a wooden box 2) super strange brake pedal, mushy (but okay-ish) on low speeds, super hard on higher speeds 3) body roll in corners 4) heavy steering wheel - it's nice at high speeds and when I'm in the mood, but I don't want to sweat every time I'm parking or just trying to navigate small streets in the city in Europe, just give us a setting with comfort and sport steering response. And I've been driving 97 Nissan Primera with questionably functional power steering before, so I know what I'm taking about.
So, basically they fixed everything you had a problem with.
I personally like Toyota's Hybrid platforms. They are smooth at disengaging and engaging. Plus they deliver wonderful fuel economy. I hope to get into one of these and see how well they drive.
Excited to see you guys like this one. I have one on order (XSE) and was a bit nervous it would not have had the liveliness you describe. Great news
toyotas man u will always win my heart and never ever think about going to buy another car brand in my life
This puts the Honda Accord in the coffin. You can't beat this value. 29k for the BEST HYBRID SYSTEM in one of the BEST sedans vs honda's 33k...is hard competition.
A few grand isn’t going to make a difference. Get the car you want. These hybrids are good on paper but they’re going to cost more and more in maintenance long term.
@@markm0000nay sayers have been claiming hybrids will be expensive to service since they were introduced. But - at least with Toyota products - that simply has never happened. Toyota hybrids been mainstream products since at least 2007. They have sterling reputations for reliability and low cost of ownership, period.
@@markm0000more maintenance in the long term?
This has been the situation between the Accord and Camry since the 80s. The hell you talking about?😂
It never fails. 13 year old Camry fan boys in the comments. Both are great products. Camry people will buy the Camry and Accord people will buy the Accord. It’s always been this way.
Jack and Dr.Goose. I was just going to order a 2024 Camry. I think I’ll be wise to wait until this hits dealers lots. Still driving my 2004 with 300k miles ! 😂
I never thought I’d be excited for a new Camry (or Prius) but here we are! 😃
I don’t know, I think is because we have similar age, but imo you’re the best car channel by far. Objective, no fuss, dry and straight jokes and all the important bits covered. Congrats boys.
REALLY apapreciate you guys reviewing this car. When I need a new car in 1-2 years, it'll be Accord vs Camry for me, and will refrence this video. Would love a proper shoot out of the two in the future for us normal people that need a normal car to keep for 15+ years.
Before switching to Tesla, Toyota was the only brand I owned. Never had any issues. Best reliability for the money.
R U a pole smoker......
I own a 2021 Camry XSE 2.5L I4 FWD. Prior to that I owned a VW Golf R, a Mustang GT, and a Miata. I surprisingly really enjoy the Camry. It's certainly not a sports car, but I knew that going in. I've driven the Camry numerous times between Twin Falls, Id. and SoCal, getting 40mpg down Hwy 93/I-15. It's a great long distance road trip car.
After all these years, this still remains my favorite car related channel. Glad you're still around smooshin it, brother.
Another great review as always. I really like that you guys really put a lot of thoughts in what you say.
nice review, guys, and so glad you not only covered an everybody car....but that Toyota is proving they have always been right about EVs vs hybrids.
As Scotty Kilmer always says, a reliable car is never boring.
I was waiting for you guys to review it!
Back headrests should retract when no passengers are in the car so you can see out the back window.
It’s always a joy when i get this notification
14:20 Speaking the f’n truth!!! Fantastic review and great job keeping things in perspective. This car is on our short list to test drive…the best parts of the old Camry and the Accord. Sign us up!
YAY - button controls for most things and touch screen if you want/need. Good to "hear" that you can get one that doesn't have too much road noise as well - that's so tiring on a road trip. great vid as usual
Be ready to pay 40k for a Camry
Most people driving SUVs would be better off in a sedan like this. Mileage, handling, comfort, value.
Its a trip seeing you guys driving the new Camry literally in my backyard area Imperial Valley/San Diego mountains. Would have loved to have met you guys if I knew you were coming out. Keep up the good work👍
Good to see Mr. Toyoda is sticking to the "no more boring cars" pledge.
Camry will be my retirement car.
Appreciate your guys honest reviews. There's not sugar coating compared to most other reviewers. Need a 600 mile per week commuter car but don't need the space of a Camry/Accord.
corolla then
Toyota Corolla, Mazda 3, Lexus UX etc.
Prius
You must be young. I, too, have a small fun sports car, but for that grinding daily work commute or that long road trip, nothing beats a long wheelbase, quiet ride, listening to a good after market stereo system in a sedan that actually allows a driver to relax and enjoy the drive, while getting virtually the same gas mileage as that buzzy Corolla box.
mate. the the only smaller car that uses less fuel than the carmy, and which is sold in the US, is the prius. everysthing else uses the same amount of fuel while having less space. so just get the camry or a prius
Great review. I love my gen 4 Avalon V6 and I am glad they still put R&D time and money into their sedans. I'm also glad they improved the dynamics and inputs, because the Avalon was always a boat.
This is the most excited I’ve seen mark in a while. Maybe he’s recovering from the menopause!
The engine droning on and on would drive me crazy
This is what I don't like about CVTs. The droning of the engine, no shifting... I prefer transmissions with multiple forward gears to shift. The gearshifts are a big part of the car experience for me, and without that or the engine sound, cars won't feel the same for car guys like myself 😢
@@ZeldaACFan17bUt tHe eCVt hAs ShIft pOinTs
its drones like Jack...who is a trans woman......he runs like a CVTs. The droning of the engine, no shifting....drives everyone crazy...
RIP V6 camry 🫡 you will be missed
Nobody purchased a Camry for the v6, it’s always been about mpg and reliability. If you wanted the v6 then you would buy an Avalon or Lexus
@@chuckthetrooper while you aren't wrong I actually enjoyed the vehicle myself, access to a 2GR FKS In the Camry chassis, what more did I need. The reason I didn't go with Lexus or the Avalon was the cost.
@@chuckthetrooperThey absolutely did
would be great from now on to see a section in each video for how much of your data the manufacturer will be collecting and selling. Also how the collect it and what types and if the system can be refused fully or be defeated at all. - going forward many buyers considering a “new” car (new models going back to about 2017) are going to be searching for this information and it’d be great if you guys started doing it first ✅ - it may also begin holding manufacturers feet to a fire on how far to implement such data collection or if they should even be doing it on certain models or even at all ~ thanx as always for your great work and videos ✨👏🏽
Reliability, excellent resale value, and a decent dealership experience. I'd buy this hybrid Camry, but I really want to see the Crown 👑 Signia introduction first.
The whole conversation was about how much better the Camry is. All I could hear was that TERRIBLE CVT!!!
CVT and eCVT (they’re the same) Totally kills the fun and reliability. And people are so excited about it. Doesn’t make sense.
@@Ty420 Fun, maybe. Reliability, not at all. The Toyota eCVT shares absolutely none of the unreliable belt-driven linkages that make Nissan's Jatco-built CVTs such a nightmare. It's as bulletproof as any transmission you can buy.
@@Ty420 well men are happy to see really fat women these days....they go hand in hand...
I'll miss the legendary V6 options...
probly still in lexus
Yeah man, that was a great era, the RAV4 with a V6 was also a sleeper when it was available.
@@bcab7955 the 07 or 08 rav4 v6 sport was one of the most surprisingly awesome cars I ever got a chance to drive.
They still have the V6, however with that turbo and hybrid mix. It probably wouldn't fit under the hood.
@@marcos223fulIf you mean the engine still exists, yes. But not in the Camry, which was the point.
I love the commentary from two obvious car enthusiasts! I have a 2015 Camry SE, recently fitted with Avid GT tread at all corners. I feel like I’m driving my old MR2 again! My car buying days are over but will always recommend a Camry with a sport tuned suspension for ANYONE who simply loves having the unadulterated fun of driving a car…and not getting caught by the men in blue. Enjoy!
excellent car and if i was in the market this would be my choice. Toyota is king of reliability. i’m the 2nd owner of a 2002 Lexus ES300 with “only” 181k miles and it has another 181k miles in it. best car i’ve ever owned
Looking forward to a new ES300h on this platform.
top trim camry is loq mpg because of quieting materials. camry maybe pretty much a cheaper lexus es, maybe not as good handlign , nto as quiet, but more than enough
Great job Toyota! Love to see the competition between accord and camry still works for the customers. Better products all around. My favorite feature I can see throughout the video? The interior roof! No none sense and lots of room!
I'm 32 and really like and want to get this car! But also I'm 32, so will get a Nissan Z now, but come back to it in maybe in about 5yrs..
Did I read correctly that the engine oil is now a 0W-8 weight? Might as well piss in there and it will probably offer as much protection.
soon we'll just be adding oil additives to some distilled water lol
Rip 2gr you had a great run !
The 2GR in my 2019 GS is smooth as silk and lives to rev. It'll outlast all these new hybrid powertrains.
I’m not the demographic for this car and won’t be buying one, but MAN is it nice to see a smaller, integrated screen in a new vehicle. Also, major bonus points for no fake shifts under wide open throttle.
I'm so glad hybrids are now catching on! It's the best of both worlds in terms of price to eco friendliness! Sincerely, a proud owner of an 07' Civic Hybrid.
The Lexus ES version of this chassis is going to be a serious winner I bet. I will watch this chassis very closely to potentially replace my 2015 toyota hybrid.
That's a bit of a misnomer, based on the mistaken impression that the ES is "based on the Camry." The new Camry is a version of the same platform that the current ES and old Camry are based on, as well as the Corolla and Prius. The next ES will be its own iteration, as the current one is now.
@@tonysterbenc thanks for the quality response Tony. Cheers buddy
@@alaskanassassin7332 My pleasure. Correcting myself a bit, Mark notes elsewhere in the comments that this is based on the chassis update done for the Crown, and you certainly could expect those same tweaks to show up in the next ES in some form. Cheers back at you.
Can't wait to go to my local Toyota dealer and negotiate the $5-8K over MSRP. Good times!!!
I'm just reallly excited the infotainment screen isn't stuck on top of the dash like everything else lately. Maybe this is progress towards integration again. Because I'm waiting for it.
In high school/college I had a ‘91 Camry that I abused but it lasted 311k miles. Now I am 40 and I miss that car. Seeing this video makes me feel like this a car that will fit my life so well.
I’ll stick with my Mazda 3, but this is a nice car also ;)
Toyota has Done a FANTASTIC job with Camry Hybrid. HYBRID is the FUTURE.
Great vid guys! Proof that the sedan isn't dead yet & that a Camry doesn't have to be dullsville. 😎👍
This is one of the best looking cars Toyota has ever made, along with one of the best interiors and best drivetrains. They absolutely nailed it and I can't wait to get an SE Camry. The brakes are very interesting to me. It's a relief to know that it's not a brake by wire system, and I hope it's as good as you guys say. Easily the worst part of my 2016 Prius is the brakes. There's a sharp, easily crossed line between the regen and hydraulics, and when the hydraulics kick in they kick hard.
My wife left me. Is this a good car to get back in the dating game with?
Ask an expert. What’s her new boy friend driving?
@@morstyrannis1951 😂
She said you were coming up short so I would recommend a getting a Pontiac Vibe. Nothing broadcasts large endowments like an early 2000s Pontiac wagon. You'll be bringing the heat.
Nissan Murano Crosscabriolet
You sir need a 2016 corvette
If you want a sedan as a daily driver and aren't interested in that 10/10s that enthusiast products give, this is a hard one to beat.
People haven't caught on that sedans are the sleeper sports cars 2024.
Emotional rollercoaster! I was excited then you said hybrid only and I was disappointed, then you said AWD and 230hp and I was intrigued! Then you said 40mpg and now I’m thinking 🤔… not having brake by wire, and wondering curb weight and tire sizes as well as suspension/ handling now… could be a fun practical daily. And THANK GOODNESS they kept the HVAC controls physical!!!
It has brake by wire, my *2002* Prius is brake by wire.
They got 40 mpg driving it like a sports car. We have two Toyota hybrids and driven normally, they meet or exceed the epa mpg.
I finished college too long ago, needed to select a car. I wanted something kind of fun, like a budget VW or a Honda, or maybe cheap AWD like a Subaru,I kept telling myself to get something fun-ish for now and work my way into reliability. Well, something mechanical happened to my dad's car that I was driving and I had to get a rental for a week. It was a 2015 Camry SE (no paddle shifters for that year). I got tired of needing to decide and went with my most recent positive experience. Walked away with a used 2016 Camry SE. Fast-Forward again and Hurricane Harvey happened and my still very-new-to-me car flooded. Insurance cut me a check and I drove to a part of TX that didn't flood and found myself a Pearl White 2016 Special Edition Camry SE. They only came in either Pearl White or some sort of blue. And only the blue one makes sense since the seat stitiching and back rest parts are blue. The red needles/ black tach area w white accents are blue needles with white tach area with blue accents that light uppurple at night due to the blue needle light bleeding through. It's also got the special badging and floormats but it's the cluster you'll be looking at every day. The car has never let me down and is exciting enough for me. I'd occasionally like more acceleration for highway driving but that's more me, not the car. I can even do basic maintenance on it because Toyota hasn't figured out how to engineer all of it out yet. On a side note back when I had my learner's permit my auntie let me drive myself to college in her 1996 Toyota Corolla. That thing was a straight Go-Kart. I still can't believe I had that much fun in that thing.
That’s a no for me. Listening to that engine drone over video made me cringe
That’s because he was driving very fast and flooring it, he was averaging 28.5 mpg. If you drive the Camry hybrid, like a normal person, you will not notice the noise! I also guarantee you will get over 50 mpg. We have 2018 Camry hybrid with over 100k miles on it now and we have averaged 50mpg. It’s very quiet and no issues at all. Driving a hybrid is an art form. I have a 22 Honda insight and have averaged 59 mpg over 36k miles. He likes the sportiness of the car, that’s why he was driving it like that. ❤
With the crown signia, they even offer this as a wagon albeit at a much larger price. Interested in both!!
Of course, bigger car and lower mpg
The prior gen V6 is the best Camry ever made
Bought an '02 w/190K mi. 4yrs ago, never broke down, or gave me a single problem. Best car I've ever owned. Still drives like new, maintenance is cheap & easy. Still gets great MPG.
This Camry will probably be the most reliable Camry probably created in the last 20 years besides the hybrid battery probably needing a swap after 12-15 years of use. The gas prices are so high this makes total sense. FYI I have a 2022 Toyota RAV4 XLE Hybrid in Silver and a 2023 RAV4 SE Hybrid in Cavalry Blue both assembled in Japan and both run perfect. The Toyota Hybrid technology is solid. Very reliable. Great review. 👍👍
Thank god Toyota doesn't mindlessly follow trends in the car industry that might be popular but completely awful like a Model 3 that has a giant iPad slapped onto the center console, and still focusing on hybrid cars as oppose to full-on EV's
I have owned 4 camry hybrids-150k to 200k miles on each and every one was bulletproof. Looking forward to 2025 model.
Great review guys! You guys were in San Diego! I know you guys are big time busy and obviously youtube Celebs, you ever plan on having little meets for your fanbase when you come in to town? Will bring you Tamales!
I have a 24 XSE V6…. And I purposely bought it for the V6 and 8 speed automatic. I get 34-35 on the highway and it’s actually pretty damn fast for a Camry. I’m just glad I got the last of the V6….
This car should be a Car and Driver 2025 10 Best
Car and Driver? They're still a going concern?
@@bassandtrebleclef Down to bi-monthly (6 per year) now, but still kicking. The Accord won't get displaced by this Camry. I might win an initial comparison but by next years 10Best the ether will wear off.
@japanwatchconnection Seriously, this same baseless negative "Mine's bigger" drivel over and over on every Toyota and Lexus thread for literally years on end. What's your problem? Considered counseling? Maybe change your outlook by volunteering to rewallpaper your mom's basement?
Great review!
You can hear the CVT and the road noise. A lot.
the cvt doesn't make any noise what you are hearing is the cvt doing it's job of keeping the engine at it's peak rpm for power.
@@BassRacerx aka 4-cylinder engine drone.
@@cbotten106 just because you pick it up loud on a microphone placed on the dash does not tell you the perceived loudness for a human ear.
@@BassRacerx your wife must be really fat.....cvts do sound like terrible
The new Toyota Camry "It's not as bad as it used to be."