We review and discuss the pros and cons of the engineering and design of the latest and last internal combustion Lotus Sports Car. We cover the interior, exterior and what it is like to drive on track compared to the Evora GT, Corvette C8, and Porsche 718. In the $100,000 range which car would you choose?
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Index:
00:00 Intro
1:10 Interior and Exterior
3:25 KEF Audio Testing
4:18 Mechanical Impressions
14:24 Driving Impressions
20:18 Final Thoughts
It's clear that what really makes a car special isn't just its engine or aesthetics, but the memories and emotions it invokes. What's the one car under 100k that you think strikes the perfect balance between thrill, style, and reliability? 👍
Murano Cross Cabriolet
@@savagegeese 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@savagegeese unfortunately he said UNDER 100K 😢
ND Miata. Nothing comes close.
Toyota GR supra MT yes i know its pretty much a bmw cosplaying as a jdm car but here me out the car is quite faithfull to the mk4 formula inline 6 turbo front engine rear wheel drive 6 speed manual and is very agile and agressive in its handaling its probally one of the best enthusiast product out today plus its 60k anything that tick as much box as this car are 100k and over maybe the Z but it far less superior and the mustang but that quite heavy car.
"It'd be better with a B58" - Jack (probably)
Jack definitely
Naah This Motor Is way more reliable
@@vindevhunta4905 you stupid? The b58 is one of the most reliable engines of all time and won awards for the design and capabilities.
@@vindevhunta4905reliable? Maybe. Better? Not even close on any metric
prob not enough room
Lotus is what we need more of today. Lightweight, no BS sports cars with clean looks. I'm really rooting for them to succeed with this, even if I couldn't or wouldn't buy it.
Not light.
Lightweight compared to a C8, but not compared to a 981 or a 718.
@@electric_boogaloo496 comparable to a cayman in weight, but a fair bit wider. Not a traditional lotus, that would be an alpine a110.
My daily weighs 3,117 lbs. And holds four adults with legs. Tons of storage.Has awesome seats and a world class manual. For a 1/3 of the price. So not impressed. ...and yet the Lotus is pure eye candy, and has the mid engine, rwd magic. So still very glad they built it. It is special. If I had room it would be keeping my Type R company.
my 1970 911S weighs in at just over 1,000 Kgs - this is not light
Man when I had the evora gt, the handling and steering communication was unmatched.
Got to drive one off turo for a day and I have to say everything I had read about it was true. So glad to not have my dream car spoiled when I finally got to drive it. Now, I just wait for the day I can own one
Steering is amazing. But unless you have the right roads near you then you get bored of the power( or lack there of) very quickly. That and the dealership experience is what kept me from keeping my deposit
How was your experience reliability wise? Always interested in the Evora
@@moneyshift8190you will have a lot of little issues that will either drive you crazy or you'll live with them comfortably. Some people think a cars reliability is based on the engine but until they own a lotus they will never appreciate how horrific British electronics are. If you don't have a dealer close to you then you better be really comfortable wrenching on it yourself. Also important mention Lotus will immediately terminate your warranty if they see mods. They also monitor the forums so keep that in Mind. I believe they own emiraforums. One of their reps knew who I was and knew all my posts, it was quite strange. I recommend driving one because they're fantastic but they're definitely not for everyone.
They really need to tune the hp to at least 430 like the previous models. It's the last ice car from lotus, they have to make it special.
Jacks final fudge at the end is amazing 😆
Literally went ape shit
He's celebrating that it was a good take, right?
I think he’s upset it wasn’t all positive.
In a world where logic and rationality doesn't exist, I'd be driving this car instead of my C7. Absolutely love everything about it.
The Lotus is beautiful, unique, and fun. But the C7 and C8 are cheaper to buy and maintain, and there is a dealership usually within 10 miles. The C7 is amazing for looks, interior, powertrain, cost to maintain. Enjoy looking at the Lotus but smile sitting in your C7.
Do you love a 6 cylinder? I couldn't justify spending that much for anything less than 8cyl. Just feels and sounds much more special.
@@bicboi1930 I hear you on that. My last three cars all had V8s. I think the Emira has a pretty sweet sounding six though. The driving experience also seems to warrant the cost. 6-cylinder aside, it's a rather special car.
I went from a C7GS to an Evora GT. It cost me a lot of money but I have no regrets. Well except for the regret of track day insurance costs.
Only a commie would give up a reliable American classic for some Eurotrash clickbait
The whistles go woo woo
Needs the Bubb Rubb treatment. D O U B L E W H I S T L E
That's only in the morning. You're supposed to be up cooking breakfast or something by then so, that's like an alarm clock. WOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOOOOO
Yeah I got it on my car
Thassit an thassall
Definitely not the comment I was expecting in 2024 😂
Already done 23,000 km on my Emira for one year. Love it.
94J8D❤
Already did 40,000 on my Dark Horse. 500 hp. V8
My shop is located next to Earth MotorCars which is an authorized Lotus dealer. And man I will tell you, the Emira really does invoke that emotional response, outside and inside.
I wasn't born into money, but I like nice cars. This car is attainable, and has the quirkiness I kinda want (masochist?) in my driving car. This is attainable! Thanks for the fantastic review, gents.
That’s funny. I feel like the Alfa Giulia has enough quirkiness and masochism I could rationalize in a pipe dream. So cheap too.
@@Mark-eu6mc The Giulia is FAR more sensible, and a great choice methinks.
Very much looking forward to your comparison of the Emira vs. Cayman GTS 4.0!
I wouldn't care which is faster. Which is nimbler ?!?!? Which is more communicative?!!??!
Buy a scale model and hold it really close to your face. You get the good looks, and none of the Lotus reliability issues.
Honestly, I think this comment is very outdated. The Evora and Elise have proven to be very, very reliable. It's too early to tell about the Emira, but it's far more likely to be in line with reliability of the Evora/Elise. The early cars in the 60's/70's definitely had reliability issues even when well cared for (too much lightness added :)), but the new cars are very good.
@@michaelp5663this video literally has an Exige owner who complains about reliability. Only Lotus could make a Toyota unreliable.
@@michaelp5663 about the only reliable component of the lotus is the drivetrain. And even though, lotus somehow manages to mess that up... Coming from a low mileage elise owner! :)
@@michaelp5663 Evora, reliable?
@@truantraymy Toyota powered Lotus has been just as reliable as my IS350, Sequoia, and ISF.
Prior LC500 owner ive wanted this car but never actually had the blessing. But i think both cars are equally sexy.
Prior? ! The LC500 is so new and I still think about buying one. Curious to know what you drive currently?
LC500 was pure bliss on longer drives... Get one if you don't need to go to the track or really tight mountain roads.
what does "had the blessing" mean?
@@SelimxBradley they’ve never had the opportunity/experience of owning one
@@VetteMaro86 they’ve sold the LC500 for over 6 years now, plenty of time for people to own/lease/sell.
I test drove the Emira and a 718 GTS and put my deposit down on the Emira. The 718 is a great car but the manual wasn't a strong point. The rev matching takes the rewarding aspect away and the gears were very mismatched to the engine IMO. I don't think you'd ever see the top of 2nd gear outside a track environment and certainly wont make use of the top end of anything after. I'm not planning to use the Emira as a daily. Its a second car and for me that emotional fun factor scores higher in the weighting.
Yes, the gearing is just killing those cars. They had some garbage excuse but it's bs, we all know Porsche could do better.
For some reason I just cannot get over the profile of the cayman. It just seems to have a feminine demeanor…and yes I would happily take a GT4 RS.
You know you can disable rev matching right? And not sure what you drove but the manual in my GTS 4.0 is an absolute treat to drive.
It's really not bs, it has to do with noise levels. They measure manual cars different from autos and it really penalizes them. Porsche is not the only long gear manual offender, but being one of the few remaining who makes manuals is oft singled out. @@bearclaw5115
@@judgedeath2614 He meant that the gear ratios are too tall and he’s right they are but at least in the 2.5 turbo flat-4 the torque band is so wide you can shift most anywhere in the rev range for fun. I also installed the GT4 short shifter in mine to take out the rubberiness and now it’s as perfect as it can get 👍
The production value of these videos is exceptional! On par with Jay Leno's car channel. Bravo!
I do appreciate you both taking the additional time to get the engineering/technical tidbits. And even though I enjoyed every minute of it, the summary really solidified the expectations one should approach this beautiful yet not perfect car. Thanks for all you do.
Part of me really wants to own a Lotus, but I just couldn't deal with the pain points. C8 is just such an easy car to live with.
I had an Evora 400 - and dealing with the BS fit and finish issues made me never want to get a Lotus again. The driving experience is phenomenal - but if I ever get a pricey fun car again it will for sure be a Porsche as you don't have those issues.
As a Porsche owner this saddens me. I feel like Lotus have always been on the cusp of producing something to rival the Cayman/Boxster and yet even after all the investment it still isn't quite there. I really hope Lotus get it right before this model disappears entirely as we now know it's the last of its kind.
i own and Evora 400 - reliabble and easy car to fix, while Porsche problems can cost a fortune - especially things like the new engine
Also owned an Evora 400. I loved the car under 8/10ths (road use), but couldn't quite get along with it as expected on track. From my experience with multiple events, the front end (with the factory Bilstein dampers), wasn't as transparent and sure-footed under threshold braking and turn-in. If I had plenty of garage space, I would've kept the Evora as a street-only weekend car. Given limited garage space, my fun car(s) need to strike an optimal balance between street and track use. Bought a 981 Cayman S to replace the Lotus and it's much better on track but less fun, less of an occasion, on public roads. My M2C, on the other hand, is a blast on public roads but is heavier, worse on consumables, and requires more modification to hold up to extended sessions on track. Tradeoffs!
Hopefully Lotus sorts out more of the issues, buying the first year is risky. I heard they are shutting down 2025 production though?
This car is more "1st gen NSX" than the NSX (2nd gen) Light weight, RWD, manual, easy to look out, easy to drive, not win by hp - a true 1st gen NSX spiritual successor.
It's a Mark 3 Evora, basically.
Nsx is not suppose to be the same old stuff. Literally in name to be different or experimental.
@@2010ngojoThan the World Rally eXpiriment has long forgotten that meaning 😂 (unless the "sport" CVT is their experiment)
Right. I began to seriously look at this car when I realized the 2nd Gen NSX started way above my price point and the first gens were also too pricey. Plus Lotus history of driver focus aided this decision.
@@qx4n9e1xp Yeah, Subaru lost it's innovation when Mitsubishi pulled the Evo out of the market. Maybe even before then.
Excellent video! Great analysis and honest final thoughts. I was cross-shopping the Emira and a Cayman GTS 4.0. Since the Cayman is in its final production year, it was now or never to order one to my spec. I want a second car for occasional track use, canyon runs, and future road trips. I’m glad I bought the Cayman for its build quality, relative reliability (and dlr network when away from home), bespoke Porsche engine, and practical luggage space. The driving experience is 95% of the Lotus (or maybe better?) and the interior is a generation older, but thank you for reinforcing my decision. Looking forward to the comparo video.
Looking forward to the track comparison with 718. Great video.
Thanks for waiting until near the end to throw in the ads and making them brief. Excellent as always guys!
You guys (yet again) knocked it out of the park with this analysis. Amazing level of information and video content. Kudos.
For a car that starts at 99k this is very special. Easily looks like a 200k car and to the untrained eye would look like a direct competitor to a Mclaren or Ferrari. Lotus has come a long way.
I disagree , 99k and up is a lot of money for a tiny car with a V6, yes it looks good but I think it's overpriced.
@@Rocket9944 yep Z06 would probably beat this car at everything for just a little more. If you don't mind buying used there are a lot of options under 100k, including what I would pick up, a V10 Gallardo.
Looks like a $70K car to me.
@@ksegg_ffsYou probably haven’t priced new cars lately!
Looks like a $70-80k car, overpriced at $99k. Not even in the same category as McLaren, much less Ferrari. And for a little more than $200k you are in older Porsche GT3 territory which is a better car by a mile in all regards. Other than that, I agree with you.
Always worth it to finish the video… God bless you Gents.
I was waiting for these two to review this car! They always cover all the major areas of what makes a car desirable in its "category"! Such a beautiful timeless vehicle!
Man, you guys are awesome. You’re just killing your niche in reviews and honestly your videos are just really refreshing to watch.
As an ND2 owner I would love to tuoro one of these someday. But I love owned the nd2 for about 3 years now with 60k miles. I beat the piss out of it and not so much as a check engine light. The reliability and low maintenance cost I’d just insane. I understand the lotus is better in nearly every objective driving category I just don’t think i could buy one even if in the budget.
Especially when you could get multiple ND's for the price of one of these. Get the same feeling every time I look at vintage British sports cars, and then realize I have an NB in the garage.
I had an evora GT and now I have a nd2 rf (needed to buy a house) and while the GT was a unique car I was always nervous something serious was going to break on it having the nearest lotus dealer literally hours away… meanwhile I drive the nd2 and have no worries just smiles knowing ultimately it’s “just” a Mazda… and I have one of those dealers worst case 15 minutes from my house.
@@viscountslappy5085 My BIL and sister have had multiple Miata’s while also owning Lotus, Jaguar, Aston, etc. so apparently it’s possible to own multiple Miatas and also own Lotus …
@@viscountslappy5085 And the craziest thing is that you could have multiple Miata's and each one setup with it's own unique drivetrain with how plentiful the aftermarket support is; and probably still stay under what the Emira costs. The Emira does look sublime though.
did you just butcher a third of your texts?
The real spiritual successor to the original NSX
Self professed car guy - obsessed with R35 GTR and car related content from way back - This one is amazing. I was blown away by the transparency, editing, content and delivery. More please. Come drive a slightly modified R35 GT-R from the far north to bluff and back in NZ - a life changing drive. You guys are good at what you do
What a beautifully shot video, especially the intro great job
I kinda wish Lotus partnered with Honda as a supplier. The Honda K20C1 engine (Type R) and transmission would have made so much more sense than the Mercedes engine
A better ariel atom for sure
And a better throwback to their Lotus-Honda F1 days
Isn’t it a Toyota engine
@@dxcheongthe v6 is a toyota, the 4 cylinder is a mercedes engine.
100% agree. If they could have made the civic manual work with their own engine that would have been great too. Just think if it had a 4.0l na cosworth v6 with a dry sump with a honda gearbox. Scream to 8000+ rpm and around 400bhp. It would lower the centre of gravity loads as well.
Now that California finally allowed Lotus to start giving out allocations to buyers like me to get their Lotus I'm happy. California really fucked up the delivery times for this car. As soon as I heard about this car I drove downtown Toronto to Gentry Lane and met with George and speced my allocation. Gave my deposit and have been waiting for the call that I'll be taking delivery of my Lotus soon. I have my Aston Martin DB9 Volante that I use for road trips to Niagara or Montreal, my FD rx7 for track days when I want to go 10/10ths and really push it. But this will be my everyday fun car to and from to work and Sundays to enjoy the back roads. Ever since I got a ride in my uncle's Lotus Esprit V8 turbo when I was 10 I wanted a Lotus. You don't buy a Lotus to say you have the fastest car in the group. Just like I didn't buy the Aston to say I have a faster grand tourer. It's emotional.
These guys are the best American reviewers, they are sophisticated guys. Not the typical over excited American.
I have been waiting for this emira video for years! ! ! I was still laughing about the intro music of the suv video, and I saw this uploaded!
Odd that Lotus owner Geely doesn't utilize one of their other brand's dealer network for after sales support, which it will be needing.
They will be able to go to some Volvo dealers
They should absolutely try to go through Volvo. There are some nice interior elements by Volvo in there too. :)
@@karacha Yes there are! Came here to see if anyone had noticed!
the stains on the upper door panel at 14:42 are sus
sussy geese
@@Ian-oe9wp Beef 'N Cheddar?
Beef and white cheddar does not come off that leather.
@@savagegeese bars
@@savagegeese we need taco hat back!
my fav car reviewer reviews my fav car design rn WOOOO!
very thoughtful, insightful commentary. Thanks!
No denying, IMHO, this is Lotus' best-looking car since the Esprit. It is that reliability thing that keeps me away from this brand. The C8 reminds me of the Alfa Romeo Milano. From the rear 3/4 view, it has a bit of that "a-crash-tested-car-that-has-already-been-crash-tested" look (aka Alfa Romeo Milano look). Still, I would go for the C8-after a priest blesses the transmission, of course. P.S. I can't believe I wrote Milano and was able to keep a straight face.
Love seeing some Sabbath as the music choice! 🤘🤘🤘
That being said, don’t want to end on a negative. Great channel, love you guys. Great job.
I love how the engine is in on the right, balancing the driver that is in the left
I have been saying this for sometime, but I feel that the Evora and now Emira are a better representation of the NSX that we have grown to love. Acura / Honda just had to replicate something not too distant from these Lotus in order to captivate our hearts again, but went off into a completely new direction with the latest (2017+) iteration.
Damn, Jack going deep with the Blade/Kris Kristoferson reference. Respect
Have a new 2024 Emira driven 1100mile zero issues, love the car!
Can’t wait for the comparo mentioned in the video!
Thanks for the content!
Fantastic review of a fantastic car. Idiot light? Who's the idiot? Crummy stereo? I'm partially deaf. Wind noise? Compared to what? a convertible? Love it. Well Done. P.S. - I had no idea the Lotus Evija EV weighs 2,000,000 lbs.!
Great production. What a car. Looks amazing, Jack saying it's like an NSX is a great review on its own. Plenty of people will be plenty happy to deal with its 'lotus'ness' to enjoy what seems like a fantastic car.
I love the way the Emira looks. It's amazing
It's. just. SO. damned. pretty! I can tell you, if I could afford this car, I certainly wouldn't mind a noisy window rubber or some HVAC glitches. I'd be as happy as a two peckered tom cat just driving this Lotus.
Absolutely stunning car! Gorgeous!! But there is no way I could bear that supercharger whine. Cayman GTS for me...
In this EV era That supercharger sound it awesome..seem you are not a true car person…
981 S/gts for me, need to feel like a kid in a race car for a little longer
@@vindevhunta4905 Some people don't like the sound of turbos and superchargers (raises hand). I definitely prefer my engines naturally aspirated.
@@Contractor815 fair enough
I love this car. Hope to have one of these or an Evora someday.
I remember when it was announced and it was going to be $80K. Then it was released at $100k+. It has problems that other channels highlighted. Glad I didn’t put money down on it because it doesn’t matter how good It looks if you can’t drive it without problems.
While it looks great on paper I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle of having to deal with dealership issues. For my money (of which there is none) it's going to be the Porsche.
I’m a Pisces. This is my dream car. Hope they develop a version with a removable roof.
Same. Unfortunately, I read somewhere that Lotus already confirmed they won't make one. Sad face.
What does being a Pisces matter? Or am I missing something? I’m a Pisces too 😊 I tried to buy one in 2021 but couldn’t get my hands on one at the time. I ended up getting something different.
It's good to see savagegeese excited to review this special car. I hope Lotus don't switch to battery only. I can see that being the end of an era.
another amazing video! thank you so much!
The best looking car starting under 100k I would say of all time!!!
It’s a beautiful car, but. I’m so over having a sports car that has issues. There are to many options out there now where you don’t have to deal with little problems all of the time. Then again, I have owned several Porsche’s and had many similar issues, I would never own one again. Interesting that you stated that the Porsche engine was more reliable than a Toyota engine, I don’t agree with that at all. Maybe the added super charger changes it, but I’m not sure. Great video and I’m glad you guys are finally getting the views you deserve. Your the best on the internet!
Tend to agree. If this engine is unreliable, it's the induction system, not the Toyota V6.
Hey Guys, I have a 2020 Lotus Evora GT that I put so far 92,000 miles on it since buying it new 3 years ago. I still daily it as my ONLY car. Love Lotus as a brand, but aftermarket, and support in general has always been a hit or miss. The forums are filled with very enthusiastic people to help with the little issues that WILL show up. I think you convinced me to go ahead and get the Emira as the new daily.
Great Video. Own 3 Evoras but waiting for 400hp+ 4cyl cylinder models. For track use it will be much better then V6.
It may pay off to have waited, now with more information. Thanks for your work
981 Cayman owner here (former 987.2, NC3, ND and S2000 owner). I wish I was wealthy enough to get a new GTS 4.0, GT4 or Emira. But I just don't think I could risk committing to the Emira as my only car like I can the Cayman etc. Its just too risky. And honestly. I would give a 4C a go before this.
I love the 4C too but reliability is even worse and the interior is even more of a joke than the Evora's was (I say that as the Evora is my dream car). I think the Cayman would probably be the better daily or "only" car, but the lotus is just so special. The Evora GT I drove from turo for a day put everything else I've ever driven to shame as far as driver involvement, and I daily an s2000.
Just got my 981 CS last year. Had an allocation for new GTS 4.0 but passed on it after acquiring my 981 while waiting for my allocation. Is the GTS 4.0 really that much better? I didn’t think so. The 981 sounds much better. The 4.0 makes more power but they are otherwise the same cars. My next upgrade will be a GT3.
The 4c is by far the most fun on the road, it’s a absolute riot but definitely not a first or second car maybe a 3rd car
981 has the worst feedback on modern sports car steering.
@racesuey the steering feel argument is so overblown. Every cars steering feels different as soon as you hop in. But once you adapt. I swear the only time you feel the difference with hydraulic is at ten tenths or if you're at a really high speed.
Yaaaas!!! Been waiting for this one ;)
I'm contemplating buying Jack an extra washing machine just to keep that hoodie with the "Gulf" logo alive forever. I love it Jack!
The intro music fit the Emira perfectly
Take a drink every time he says; "just like in the Evora" and you'd soon be drunk enough to not notice the Emira is not actually all-new at all; it's a softer, heavier Evora in a fat-suit.
Nice review. A special car, but I’m not feeling the front bonnet slats or the supercharger whine. And I’m US, so lack of service is a deal breaker. My main question…when are you reviewing the Porsche spyder rs? 😎
finally ive been waiting for thisss thanks
Another great video from the best video team on the internet! Thanks for doing what you do. I'll get an Emira at some point; gotta have the last NA Lotus to park next to my 85 Esprit. :)
Erm... actually the chassis is very much the same with Evora, save for some ported holes for new electronics. The track width and wheelbase length are pretty much the same as Evora, which is weird for a car that was supposed to be 100% brand new. Don't take it as a criticism towards the Emira, though. Sharing the same backbone as one of the best driver's car ever made is no bad thing. I just wish Lotus would iron out the reliability issues.
Yeah, it's a joke that it's pretty obvious it's essentially the same car but people are willing to roll out the Lotus line of 'all new' as you say, that's not an issue but don't peddle the bull...
Why can't the Corvette look this good??
@twinturboray C5 is ugly.
Because the Corvette needs (and by needs I mean absolutely requires) a trunk that will accommodate a golf club bag. They start with that and engineer out from there. Lawyers and plastic surgeons need golf accommodations on toys.
@twinturborayC6 looks better than the C5 imo
Golf clubs
@@cbotten106 I understand that, but a wide trunk doesn't explain the tacky exterior styling. I wish the Corvette borrowed more from the old CERV3.
Excellent video i think your best yet
Nailed every downshift 👌
Emira owner… 300 miles of break in and no drivability issues, only cosmetic and fitment issues but still glad I bought it. The issues should soon be resolved with a trip to the dealership.
Loved the video and itching to take mine to the track. Agreed on it giving way to understeer much more readily than the Porsche despite double wishbone up front Sport suspension surprisingly compliant and is great for canyon carving and driving around town. Touring too soft and gives up too much front end sharpness. Agreed on it being fun even when driving slow.
Can't you just dial the understeer out with some after market parts? Anti-roll bar, or more camber up front?
I was wondering if I’d find you in the comments lol. hey doc! I’m surprised you were willing to forgive the under steer as such a rwd/steering fanatic. But I guess the feedback and ability to fix aftermarket makes it worth for you.
@@darrena4048 Just uprate the spring and/or shock rate in the REAR end? Sway bar only works mid-corner, whereas stiffer damping/wheel rate helps on initial turn-in too. Unfortunately most aftermarket springs and shocks also lower the car, it's hard to find ones that are uprated but keep the OE ride height. Edit -- Sorry I said front end at first, I got confused.
If I had the money I'd be super interested; softer suspension actually makes it faster on-road by gripping better over bumps. However, it's hard to financially justify over an MX-5 or BR-Z/FRS/86. Too bad there's no more MR2 in NA.
Thanks to Patagonia for another great video
I picked mine up Saturday. I love it, but it has swirls all over the paint like its been washed improperly multiple times already. I will be following up on that today.
Is it a new car? That's unfortunate to hear bro. Hopefully it gets fixed soon.
@@yareyare74 brand new. Picked it up Saturday with 150 miles on it. I ordered it last April and waited just over one year.
It's not brand new with 150. I wouldn't accept that.
@@krzzzy19 I've read that 150 is normal.
You sure thats not a dealer or port issue?
Pretty sure the Emira GT4 finished P1 this weekend and Silverstone British GT Championship - and set a LAP RECORD for GT4 class! - I know this first Emira is set up for the street, but based on what it is doing on the race track (P1 & P2 in Macao GT4) Lotus can clearly make a Porsche GT4 beater with the Emira. Perhaps a road review would have been better for the road variant of the Emira. Agree with the build quality issues and dealer network... biggest letdown of owning a Lotus... review was underwhelming for the type of car this is.
HAHAHAH the ending killed me. Well lets hope the Emira GT430 (or whatever its called) review doesn't end with that same sentiment.
I primarily bought a 2021 Evora based on SG's earlier video on the same. I loved the car and kept it 3 years without any issues. 2 or 3 track days and local spirited driving. I loved the fact that it was no compromise between comfort and sport. I sold it and bought a 718 Spyder just to try something different. The Spyder is great, but I still miss that Evora. With a decat pipe that card sounded great and the fact that I 'couldn't' hear the supercharger except on occasion was a bonus. It felt like a NA engine with that linear power delivery. I know I am in the minority, but I truly hate the way that supercharger sounds on the Emira. Everyone would put CAIs on Evora to elicit that sound and I never understood it. On the track portion of this video I had to check to ensure I hadn't switched over to the C8 E-ray video and it's ridiculous Tron sound.
A beautiful car❤ V6 manual ❤ Yellow ❤ Oh yessssssssssss😊
The Ali Baba Quality quote is 😂😂😂
I tried buying a car part from Alibaba once...never again. I ordered an electronically valved exhaust with 3" in and out. The valve was nice, welding all looked okay. Looked down the 3" pipe and the actual hole in the muffler was around 1" wide. They just tacked a 3" stainless pipe to the back of a super cheap muffler. I tried to explain that using such a muffler on my car would, at best, severely hamper performance and possibly damage the car. They said, 'our engineer said it's okay, put it on and let us know.' Luckily alibaba refunded my money but I'm not dealing with that again.
Gavan Kershaw was also involved in the Lada makeover on Top Gear many years ago where the Lada owner got on his knees to thank the Lotus people for modding his car for free. Memories…
At 2:01, the infotainment screen already looks old and like an afterthought. It would've been nice if Lotus integrated the screen into the dash, like on Audis.
acording to bfsc chart 2/3 pedal down 2k-3k rpm is most effceint , but in sport mode, eco mode, or normal mode?
Two very different cars but this Emira and LC500 are tied for my favorite car of this decade/era.
Big or small. Thats the take away between the two.
My two favourites also. Can afford neither lol
@@martinm964 I see your little one. Good luck justifying a 100 grand toy for yourself!
Two best looking production cars imo in recent years. The hyundai N vision would also be on the list if they ever making it in decent numbers.
@@2010ngojo yes! Looks like we’re all thinking alike
Harry Metcalfe (Harry's Garage) was so chuffed to get his last year. But Harry has the resources and local support network to enjoy it. In North America Porsche makes more sense.
100% having had a evora GT When I’m able to get a high(er) end sports car again it will be a Porsche of some form.
I pre-ordered one of these, put my deposit down, waited over 3 years checking almost daily on the Emira forums. After lengthly delays, slow 0-60 performance and a test drive that did put a big smile on my face but quality concerns went up - I canceled and bought a Z4. The emira is no doubt a much more beautiful car, but I love the convertible and I’d rek the Emira on the streets where I drive. For a pure weekend car - get one. The mid engine supercharger sound is a hell of a lot of fun. For a primary car, I would advise looking elsewhere based on my experience.
Would you go with Tour suspension if you were not tracking it or would it feel too floaty for spirited canyon drives?
Sport suspension is soft. Just go that route.
Thanks!
Will you guys review the 2024 Nissan Versa with the manual transmission? I think it’s under $20,000 MSRP
If we can get it
Oh goodie! I hope Nissan stiffs you. 🤣
@@savagegeeseyou are going to beat the piss out of the Versa! 😂 True Nissan ownership experience.
@@savagegeese i drove lexus rx350 and i let the auto trans do its thing at optimal rpm (2k-3k rpm 2/3 the pedal down accoridng to bfsc chart) and fuel level as much as possible (transmissions was super slow as savagese might rerember) but you should drive it anyway and mash the htorttle because it exceptioinally sounds good with a base heavy comforitng sound sort of like the usual old school v8 but mores smoothened (it was inline 4 version not v6, id liek to hear the v6 version) .with gliding in neutral after using auto transmission mode to speed up, according to its infotainment screen i got around 25 mpg insted of the usual 15 or 18 sort of number. i got similar in manual mode only and my driving isnt all that good because im new to driving effciently . also drove avalon hybrid limited also from around 2013 , was getting around 40 mpg... so with being lower weight areodynamic sedan, cvt, hybrid, and the auto trans is a super lousy trans... only 10 mpg better compred to maybe of i get 30 mpg in the lexus rx suv. in avalon, the hybrid cant totally go neutral , it just turns things off , which is still useful for turning off regenrative braking so the car can glide instead of ruining momentum by converting it to electrical energy then putting it back out , which is less effceint in lowering emissions, material usage etc long term , than using electric drive in small power application especially higher torque applicaitosn like rollin to 10 mile per hour before mashing pedal to optimal combustion. im not sure wether to apply the bfsc chart rule (pule n glide) in avalon hybrids sport mode , normal mode, or eco mode, sportier mode is just more fuel. Reply
i drove lexus rx350 and i let the auto trans do its thing at optimal rpm (2k-3k rpm 2/3 the pedal down accoridng to bfsc chart) and fuel level as much as possible (transmissions was super slow as savagese might rerember) but you should drive it anyway and mash the htorttle because it exceptioinally sounds good with a base heavy comforitng sound sort of like the usual old school v8 but mores smoothened (it was inline 4 version not v6, id liek to hear the v6 version) .with gliding in neutral after using auto transmission mode to speed up, according to its infotainment screen i got around 25 mpg insted of the usual 15 or 18 sort of number. i got similar in manual mode only and my driving isnt all that good because im new to driving effciently . also drove avalon hybrid limited also from around 2013 , was getting around 40 mpg... so with being lower weight areodynamic sedan, cvt, hybrid, and the auto trans is a super lousy trans... only 10 mpg better compred to maybe of i get 30 mpg in the lexus rx suv. in avalon, the hybrid cant totally go neutral , it just turns things off , which is still useful for turning off regenrative braking so the car can glide instead of ruining momentum by converting it to electrical energy then putting it back out , which is less effceint in lowering emissions, material usage etc long term , than using electric drive in small power application especially higher torque applicaitosn like rollin to 10 mile per hour before mashing pedal to optimal combustion. im not sure wether to apply the bfsc chart rule (pule n glide) in avalon hybrids sport mode , normal mode, or eco mode, sportier mode is just more fuel.
I can’t believe this is the last ICE Lotus. You can’t “add lightness” to a EV. The brand will never be the same, but the Emira is quite the send off!
Bang for buck this is the best sports car on the market imo
Great car at 75k or less, not 110k
Still hoping Lotus changes their minds and develops more lightweight gas sports cars.
Legislation dictates they cannot, sadly.
EVs are 10+ years out from being the standard.. nobody wants them
@@TornadoOfSouls777 Yes, Lotus is jumping too quick into EV only. If anything they should go hybrid for a while.
clearly that isnt the case as Tesla has proven...they can live side by side in harmony. I have an Evora GT, Model X Plaid, Lucid AIR Gtp, Esprit FE, original Roadster in storage, a few vintage Saabs, and more (I collect) and they are all wonderful. I had the opportunity to drive the Eletre and the Emira when working in the UK, and tho the Emira is not the upgrade to the Evora I had hoped for...the Eletre R was quite thrilling in its own right. Performance evs can be just as exciting, and in some cases simply better. The Emira is a perfect subject for cars and coffee.. Sunday cruiser, but it wont blow your mind in any way, somewhat ephemeral. Cheers.
@iannealcole That sounds like an awesome collection! People are too black and white... all cars have their place. Especially the Murano Cross Cabriolet.
Every time I watch a Lotus review, I think, "why can't Toyota take the Lotus version of their V6 and put it in a Camry?"
does the car have manual brakes? I've often seen the pedal box shifted to the right to make the right leg in line with the brake pedal if manual brakes are used to increased efficiency when going to the pedal... also keeps a nice anchor point for the heel when going between the two pedals when performance driving. just wondering since you commented the pedal box was more to the right!