Does Jordan Peterson support Brexit?
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That Michael Caine clip at the end is perfect.
Black brit with a clean room. When the fembot highlighted the poor economic plight of this nation...a good response would be "Well clearly our plight is awful under EU rule then!?" But in response to the clip of Michael caine(which I clapped at). It makes me think of a statement by Benjamin Franklin "Even a society that will that up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both"
"give" 6th word in...not "that"...sorry
@Christian Adams Yes, exactly, wonderful quote!
Alfred is always keeping batman reasonable, after all
Totally! i mean it's not like he's sat on millions (billions?) and could just uproot and move to the South of France at the drop of a hat when the sh*t hits the fan. They'll certainly be plenty of poor masters in the UK in the future while dear old Michael's laughing at us from his chateau thinking "gullible tw*ts".
The poor couldn't give a toss about being poorer. They see jobs, housing and culture being taken away while they see a certain segment of the country benefiting whilst they have been thrown in the gutter. It's do what I say, not do what I do for us plebs.
stuartsteel1 Well said. Money is meaningless when you see your community and country being destroyed
You lads are expecting Blairites to be interested in anything besides money and social standing.
Liberal comedian? That's a joke in itself. Go away troll.
'No one voted to be poorer' No leaver voted to be richer, they voted to leave no matter what the cost. Everything else she brought up had absolutly nothing to do with brexit...
No one voted to have our countries flooded with foreigners either.
But what are we getting for the cost?
Freedom...
Freedom from what?
We have a brilliant and free society being in the European Union. I am going to lose my freedom of movement so there is one less freedom.
He's very well spoken. He thinks very much about what he says.
+Dan that's one of his rules in his book.
Skyfish It's not just that he has to in order to be heard, it's one of his highest goals. Don't say stuff that makes you look weak - it's a paradigm.
Rule 10 - Be precise in your speech
the thing I don't get is like, yes, there will be problems with Brexit, as there were problems with the EU, but Brexit means that if policymakers are problemakers we can elect new policymakers, while being part of EU it doesn't matter who you elect them buggers have the final word. Brexit makes repairing this nation possible.
We will still be part of NATO, the Council of Europe (including the European Court of Human Rights), the WTO, the UN, the Commonwealth, and many other organizations. We will still have unelected lords, judges, police and civil service. Furthermore, I think that Brexit will disappoint most Leavers, when they realize that the problems of a country are fundamentally caused by the general public of that country, and that the UK is no exception.
EU has no control over Britain's laws, you do understand that ? Britain is #2 power in EU, Britain and Germany work side by side, THEY ARE THE ONES making the laws. All the laws of EU are there to increase the economic power of every country, and Britain has no obligation to withhold those laws. What part of sovereignty is here not clear ?
It's the same shit with Paris agreement. YOU DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PARIS AGREEMENT TO BE IN THE PARIS AGREEMENT.
That's fine, I don't know enough about individual agreements really to argue for, against or even agree or disagree with what you're saying, all I know is whatever globalists want, I don't.
Define globalists
This host is the worst, constant interruption
Does the woman at the end not realise all of these problems are happening whilst we are a full member of the EU? 😂 Hmmmmmmm
This is one of rare things I disagree with JP. Future is in uniting. In the future there will be no need for borders at all. Brexit is a step back in our social evolution. Things should have been fixed, not dismantled.
Yes. I can’t help but feel this was giving his audience nice words, and not actually what he truly believes. Plus he never actually approves of brexit here, just is sympathetic, which tends to mean he acknowledges that the situation is not good.
Keep em coming Robin!
Thank You Robin!
Peterson , Cash & Caine Yay!
Next out will be Denmark. The movement is already rising, and rising fast. *_D E N M A R K O U T O F E U C A L I P H A T E_*
MICHAEL CANE IS A HERO BTW
If Denmark is next? why is it that the people and the Danish government pushing for it? Unless they're waiting to see what happens with us Brits, I'm sorry to say (as a Brexiteer) our government is too soft and giving in to the EU, we won't be out, we'll be nothing more than a Vassal state if our government doesn't play the hardliner.
Our government consists of many smaller parties. In those parties are fractions of EU sceptics and those who get an orgasm whenever they hear EU. Our current government over all is pro EU Caliphate. But this is not so among the people. Our current government is way out of touch with what the people want with EU Caliphate. Just wait and see.
I hope you are right my friend, the EU is no different to the Soviet Union, it needs to go.
Everything is a crisis. Yet everyone has a iPhone and Netflix. Goes on holiday. Goes out drinking. Hmmm.
Agree. This "health crisis" will still be a political football in 100 years time. SSDD.
Brickcellent the NHS can never have enough money that's the be all and end all of it. It's a cash black hole. Its just used as a political chess piece. And this is coming from a guy who's father died of cancer and grandparents died recently in hospital.
I lost my uncle to cancer few weeks back, I personally advocate for the NHS to be fully privatized, I know it is a taboo thing to say in Britain but his death is on their hands, he died before they started the operation. That's all I am going to say about it.
PropSpairGaming mate my dad was waiting for them to contact for weeks from his results after being told to wait. He got flat out lost in there system. Then they all blamed each other. He had to argue with them to get treatment which didn't help. Its like his file fell off the face of the earth.
I know how you feel, my uncle was in such a bad shape, the last time I saw him was when me and my dad took him to the hospital, he looked like someone you'd expect was in a concentration camp in Nazi Germany, it was sickening. They initially cancelled his first admittance into hospital so we had to rearrange a few days later, only to bring him in and then get told that they can't do anything at this time so they expected us to send him back home and wait for a week or two? Nah, he was not in any position to be left alone, he was all alone, he was starving because he couldn't eat, couldn't walk because he was that weak and they had the fucking cheek to say take him home and we'll deal with it in a week? We did not accept they so eventually they got him a room, that was the last time I saw him only to hear 2 weeks later he past away before the operation. I cannot put into words what I've experienced at a public health service.
He's always supported Brexit. Catch up ppl
Hjtgjj Mjjhh well said. Facts
I’m giving a thumbs up because of Michael Caine’s quote at the end... brilliant!!!! 👍👍👍
Michael Caine net worth: 75m. You applaud a man that comments from his ivory tower? It's not him that will be poor ever, it will be you.
Broke Ass Dollar Store Ellen I’m not broke! I’m fully aware of the millions he has! People need to wake up to the corruption in this world & all governments! He is being a voice!
A voice for what? Against corruption? You think brexit will lead to less corruption in the UK? Dear God lol
Coming out of the EU means, we will be leaving a communist Europe! Open your eyes to a far bigger picture! Brexit is the beginning of freedom!
I don't think you understand what communism is if you think it applies to europe lol. Anyway, none of this matters since brexit won't happen.
“Please, Brussels, we used to be an empire, but we’d really like to be told how to live from Belgium.”
In our national parliament the M.P's propose legislation. In the E.U most of the legislation is proposed by the European commission. Essentially what the E.U system does is dictate the legislative agenda to the MEP's rather than the representatives of the people (MEP's) setting the agenda. In it's current form the E.U is a pen stroke away from a totaliarian dictatorship.
Yeah but no country has to follow the EU laws, and those EU officials are indirectly elected by the people. You vote for your prime minister, and that prime minister may become a EU official making those laws. I agree that EU is not transparent at all, but I have not seen one sign of corruption or fault in their system so far, even tho it has to change.
Yes we do have to follow those rules - it is not optional. Also, we have attempted renegotiation with the E.U on many occassions. No leader of this country has ever had any success.
I'm just curious, what negotiation ? I'm no expert in politics, but for me it seems like the UK government goes par in par with the EU. This whole referendum was started by the right party, not by the government, the prime minister himself resigned because of the referendum, how in any way were UK and EU in disagreement ?
Before the referendum, Cameron went to Brussels to look for concessions regarding EU nationals and them receiving benefits. No substantial concessions were offered so Cameron had to, as he promised, put the EU membership up for a referendum. Negotiations with the EU happen continously, Greece tried regarding the restructuring of their debt and failed. Ireland were forced to hold the same referendum a second time because the EU didnt like the outcome and I believe the same occured in the Netherlands. EU laws are binding for all EU members, a particularly controversial was the banning of weed. The EU tried to force Holland to criminalise the sale of weed and succeeded. The Dutch just got around it by refusing to police their new law from their EU overlords. Furthermore the EU is incredibly corrupt and hell bent on achieving a dictatorship over entire Europe. The latest scandal is the appointment of Jean Claude Junkers' friend with little or no experience to a high position of influence. Additionally, look at how the EU responded to the violence in Catalonia when they sought independence. The EU distanced themselves from the issue and stated it was not their business despite the Spanish governments' deplorable actions. Simply because Spain is pro EU, Catalonia is not. The same is happening regarding Brexit negotiations and Ireland. The EU has the audacity to suggest a united Ireland. The issue is absolutely nothing to do with the EU and their jurisdiction. I find it disgusting that they can even suggest such a thing. Whether a united Ireland is a good thing or not is not the point, the fact that the EU thinks they have the political right to involve themselves in our issue is the problem.
Man...that Michael Caine clip. Haven't seen that before.
Full video?
Spoken like what a true American revolutionist would say!
1:10 Wage freeze you say? Could that have anything to do with unchecked immigration? The wages of the lowest paid will of course be supressed if the number of people seeking these jobs increases.
Here here!
Alfred, have you told this to Batman?
Wait, when was this aired? (Can't you label it at least)
Good for you Michael caine
Bill Cash needed a cabinet position
No little RED book for us.
What's he doing in England again?
These shows always cut it off as soon as they get good...it's like having a show "What's the meaning of Life, tonight on 15 min interview UK."
Its a shame he wasn't allowed to respond to the 'platitudes' comment. He was already preparing his response :(
The disconnect between politicians and voters really grew from the labour party,s attempts to gain power, post thatcher, by deserting their core vote to appeal to the centre ground. The conservatives followed suit and this led to the rise of ukip and momentum
The people got tired of Bryssel deciding their future.
Platitude my ass, this country ruled itself long before the eu was even a thing. To think it needs the eu is pure fantasy.
Platitudes? Every defense of the European Union is basically a carpet bombing of platitudes about how we're "better together" and so on, despite the EU being in perpetual crises for more than a decade. The she waffles through a cost of living "crisis" (really, "crisis"?), and austerity, and then even talks about money for schools and hospitals. These are domestic policies for starters, so why is she bringing them up in a question about Brexit? If she insists however, sure, Brexit can take the strain off the school system and healthcare by reducing inward migration into the UK, which will also ease the housing crisis and therefore ease the cost of living, since people spend a lot of their money on housing. As for Austerity, I'm unaware of a single year under the Tories since 2010 where the UK spent less than it took in. That's what Austerity means. A deficit has been run every year, so where's this austerity you are speaking about?
"no one voted to make themselves poorer"..no, no they didn't, they voted to leave and you HAVE NO IDEA if leaving will indeed makes those that voted to leave poorer...it may make the companies that are dependant on cheap labour poorer, it may make the land owning Lords poorer, it may make those in receipt of EU funding, payments or pensions (Lords...again) poorer..but here is the "qualifier" it "may"...meaning they have NO IDEA and going by their track record I am no inclined to believe them...Curiously they ignore the proposed: Scrapping of ALL rebates, 3% tax on all businesses on TOP of national business tax rates, 17.7% increase to the EU budget and reduction of CAP....strangely silent on that....hmmm.....
jolly good
Off topic, I'm American but Gary Oldman and Michael Caine are National Treasures of the UK
The women embrace bigger govt. Namely, the EU.
Further-away government doesn't necessarily equal bigger government. The Brexit vote was won on the basis of huge new regulation on foreign workers and more money for socialist health-care. In other words, Leavers voted for closer but bigger government.
The EU is more like an unelected dictatorship for a start. The EU is the perfect example of big government. The EU gets to dictate to many countries, and with this comes HUGE influence and power. If Britistan wants to cut its own head off internally, fine. The May government is hardly conservative. Either way, Britistan is slowly becoming an Islamic state. Londonistan is leading the way. The rest of Britistan will follow as the century progresses on.
The issue of elections and the issue of big government are two different things. For example, the UK had a much smaller government in Victorian times, when most people weren't allowed to vote. As for Islam, Brexit has become a proxy for all kinds of complaints that have nothing to do with the EU. How many of the Muslims in the UK are here because of EU rights?
cUKistan has a smaller population in during the Victorian era. Governments tend to gain public services rather than drop them. Britistan grows it's Islamic base day by day. Muhammed is the established most popular baby boys name within Londonistan. The growing Islamic state will see more and more 'Muhammed' regions over the coming decades إن شاء الله .
I'll take that as stand-alone comment, rather than a reply.
I like how that old dude is nodding at Peterson like "Man, I like this guy! He gets it!"
It’s interesting when they start talking about unemployment in the UK and it’s a very interesting point of unemployment being the lowest rate for ages and its interesting but completely misses the issue. In order to work in the sector I want to (Music) I have to work 3 part time jobs with absolutely no confirmed monthly income. I consistently though do earn at least 600 pounds a month (while working way more than 50 hours a week) through employed and self employed work. But that’s fine, I chose this industry and hopefully one day I will receive a fair wage, but I’ve also worked in many industries previously where the only way to EARN a full time position is to start as part time or at the very least on a temporary contract. This includes retail and also in the health sector. That gives people absolutely no sense of job security, that there was 50 years ago. People in their 20’s can’t afford to get on the property ladder. Even those fortunate to get a full time job can’t get a mortgage. Wasn’t it the case that a man could work and a woman could stay at home with the kids and you’d still have enough for a mortgage? That just doesn’t happen anymore, ironically since woman have joined the workplace it’s actually made that situation worse, even though it’s obviously a goof thing that women are out working. But the job market was in place for that situation and now the paradigm has shifted its caused massive societal changes where 50 year olds just think kids are lazy and don’t want to work. I’ve heard stories about my great-grandfather trekking up and down the South Wales valleys looking for work and wearing his shoes out to do it. Would you know that his great grandson is in the same position. The difference being is I still have the fortunate net of my family who’ve benefited from the golden generation of job security and home ownership that I get to have food in my stomach while I do it. And a nice smart phone in my pocket that I don’t deserve because I could never pay for it on my own and a car that I just about manage to pay for, and this is echoed by people in better positions than me. I’m technically in that employed statistic but what does it really mean?
When she starts speaking my ears start bleeding
The perfect answer would be to tell the woman that she may have more chance of having the hand-outs she craves if we are no longer a net contributor to the EU. May be beyond her rationality though ....
4.2% unemployment rate so if we can half that guess what happens? More people paying into schools and services. Common sense
Peterson is in favour of Brexit. That's it - the BBC really hate him now
I dont understand people that think Brexit was a good choice. The government didn't even have a plan what to do after they've gone out.
I'm not sure of the name of the lady on the left, but it's interesting how she seems to dump austerity on the shoulders of Brexit, since cuts were being made that deeply affected vulnerable people by David Cameron long before he put up the question of EU membership for a public vote. Furthermore, I think those who advocated to remain should remember that we've not really been affected by Brexit yet, perhaps through a drop in the value of the pound - since recovered - which admittedly has a knock-on effect to the economy, but we are still in the EU right now and still agreeing terms. Any problems you may have with the way the country is being run should be put to the Conservative party, not those people who used their democratic vote in the way they saw fit. Brexit has seemingly become a scapegoat for every issue the Tories fail to sort out.
I'm a Brazilian spiritual Brexiter.
Well said Dr Peterson. Brexit is a victory for freedom and sovereignty.
things mightn't be so shit if we could govern ourselves - you know, like most countries do
I love that old codger! Hear, Hear!
The female host was completely unbearable she won't let anyone she doesn't agree with speak.
Your outros are fucking Gold mate.
All uk needs to do is to stop giving unlimited benefits which at the moment are higher than minimum wage. Give benefits for 6 months. If no effort is made to find a job don't give them that much. They blame everyone else for their economy but they don't see that lots of brits can't even be bothered to work because they get more from benefits
Do you find it hard to believe that the woman who calls nationhood a _platitude_ is *_"born to parents of Jewish origin"_* per her wikipedia page? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayesha_Hazarika
It's bizarre, she's talking about the terrible economic conditions that has occurred as a member of the EU to justify staying in the EU?
Uh, no? Straw manning appears a habit of yours.
@@namelessnobody7611 Have you noticed that left wing grifters like to just assert things that they're wrong on to convince themselves that they're not dumb lying grifters?
@@Xalgucennia No, no I haven’t. That seems moreso a habit of the contrarian right.
@@Xalgucennia Regardless, to address your initial point- ever heard of austerity?
@@namelessnobody7611 See you just did it again. Pro tip, if you're on the side that reflexively whines about how everyone they're to stupid to argue against is racist/sexist/whatever hysterical moral panic buzzword, you're the side full of idiots.
The desperate LEFTY on the left. But what about muh hospitals????
Regulate EU workers, and give more money to the NHS? Remember that? The Brexit vote was a left-wing vote!
Michael cane legend ,
He's talking sense, who is that ridiculous woman on the left of JP. ....I thought we were much better off when we worked with the Commonwealth.
1:13 There’s no proof that Britain will be ‘poor’ or even ‘poorer’ after leaving. No proof, because we haven’t left yet, and it’s all in the future, so, logically, no proof exists.
Any fool can see it’s not austerity that’s the problem, it’s the whole of Africa trying to get to the U.K. for free stuff, Free housing, free NHS, Free Money, free cars all at the taxpayers expense, problem is we don’t have the infrastructure to support the whole of Africa on a tiny island
"nobody voted to be poor" - She has just declared a negative outcome as fact without any evidence, made that the question (instead of the actual question which was should we leave the EU) and then decided that this gives her the right to reject the referendum result. That is the type of logic I would expect from a supporter of the EU.
"Patriotic language of freeing yourself (...)" - is this purple lady serious?
Problem with unemployment? Yes because we cant get jobs with unlimited people coming in. Close boarders so we can put food on our table. Its simple math.
Another reason for me to be a fan of Jordan!!
Norway, Switzerland are much fine. 😁
She needs to look up what a platitude is.
As an American, I think Brexit is wonderful! As far as Trump goes, we ABSOLUTELY could have have trade deal in record time! It's REALLY up to YOU!
Could the host be any more flipping arrogant? I've never seen someone speak with such uninterrupted admiration for themselves.
The main problem I have with brexit is that it won the referendum because of propaganda. I can guarantee you that if there was no propaganda, and facts were given to people, the vote would have been an overwhelming NO.
She goes on about the economy like its because of brexit even though we have not left yet ?
No one is poorer since the brexit vote
"I know you just defended democracy, and complimented the people of Britain, but let me virtue signal because Brexit is bad don't you see" there i fixed it for her
Read Ray Dalios book on debt cycles. Debt, recessions and depressions are a natural phenomenon. To blame it on policy makers is just politics. The real reason is spending individual debt and buying power. Like the ebb and flow of the sea. Always expect a flux in the economy. We are heading into a recession and maybe even a depression much like the 1930’s and populism is rising. It is perfectly natural.
Ive no idea if brexit will work out or not, but michael caine will remain a multi millionaire either way.
Brexit was certainly reasonable, but the UK certainly has to fight to stay in EFTA. Otherwise this country is economically screwed
"Here here" :) Jobs have never been more plentiful so people unhappy leave and get another job. I've had 3 in 12 months
Poor master of your own fate...how if we are out do we become masters???
As a Canadian myself, I look forward to more British goods in our stores as a result of Brexit.
Canada and the EU already have a free trade agreement. So as a consequence of brexit you might actually have to wait longer, since the UK and Canada have to negotiate a new trade deal.
Haha! Good luck with that 🤦🏻♂️
You'd rather be a poor master of your own fate then a rich servant of someone else's? That doesn't Make sense. Do you think you'll be a master of your own fate if we leave, nothing changes except someone else being in charge. So really, you're voting leave to be poor only.
ooh we're so poor people are realllly struggling apart from me, look at my new dress and gold jewellery and all my expensive warpaint,OOOOOT Means OOOOT
He said he has sympathy for those who voted that's not the same as supporting the policy itself.
I noticed this too. Peterson know's his fanbase well and gives them what they want.
Just as an example I have sympathy for the German men and women forced into Hitler's Wehrmacht against their will. But I despise what that Wehrmacht did and what it stood for.
Peterson's main sentiment was that "people of the UK will muddle through properly" it sounds to me he understands very well that Brexit will be a rough ride
I agree with him there the British people are a tough people.
Seeker of Gnosis The Germans were never forced into anything by the Nazis, they agreed with it and went along without ever making a fuss. When did they ever protest against Hitler? I'll tell you when, despite all the shit the ONE and ONLY time they publicly protested was the Rosenstrasse protest where some German women living in Berlin had their Jewish husbands arrested so these women took to the streets demanding their release. Despite being threatened with violence they didn't back down so out of fear of this little protest spreading Goebbels released their husbands and no further action was ever taken against them. Had the German people ever actually bothered to opposed Hitler they could have easily overthrown him, but they didn't, they stayed loyal until absolutely everything was destroyed. This is because the German people in general always do what they're told and love rules. As a Brit I find this a really disturbing character trait since we, along with our American cousins, have always placed such a strong value on our personal freedom. So maybe the "just following orders" excuse holds more weight in the mind of a German, but I personally think there should have been a hell of a lot more nooses at Nuremberg.
pink dress lady talks like EU was going to just give UK money, while it was the other way around. UK has been giving us (lower GDP nations) their money XD
My Cocaine. I knew he was a smart man-this proves it.
she's like, "why do you like sovereignty?" hahahaha it's ridiculous. but that's the left for ya'. and the other guy is like, that's refreshing! love to hear it. Thank God another man is sensible and has common sense lol
She was completely right to say that.
Jordan Has his head screwed on the right way round! Makes a lot of sense!
TheLindeN, I see no hate in what I said, just simple fact. I am more concerned with what you are saying, or not saying, in your case as you obviously can not put simple English together in one sentence, sad.
I'm in favour of bladdy Brexit as 🤓
H U R R A H !!!!!
The winging leftie, goes on about how terrible things are with all this austerity. All of those terrible things are happening whilst we're part of the EU. You're making us Brexiteers point for us. Let's make decisions which are good for the UK not bland ones for 27 other diverse economies.
As much as I like Peterson for his remarks I would of loved him if he back handed the scaremonger lefty next to him!
Peterson stay in Britain, educate these winging leftists!
Let me guess. That woman in purple who thinks she speaks for people who have it hard financially, she's probably very well paid.
boring interview.
It's very easy for Michael Caine of all people to say that he wouldn't mind being poor! Furthermore, I guess for him it might be easier to lobby London than Brussels (if he's into that), but the average person is not going to be empowered by Brexit. Our masters in London will have somewhat more power after Brexit, at the expense of our masters in Brussels.
the average person you mean that has been being hurt by the EU? ahahahaha do you not believe in sovereignty? I guess you'd rather the UK have less rights, liberties, freedoms, economically, socially, politically, just so the union can benefit off of the prosperity of the UK, just as the UN benefits off of the US. **** off. You've got your priorities off
I fucking don’t.
Peterson does not utter platitudes
JP is the most important intellectual voice in the world right now
I’ve been giving The same reason as Peterson just did every time I’m asked why I voted to leave since the referendum. Firsts it drops dead any racists or xenophobic angle someone might have against me and it’s also an argument leftists can understand and would often agree with
Peterson knows full well Brexit has been an economic train wreck but here all we see is him pandering to his audience with quite meaningless words. "muddle through properly" what on earth does that mean in economic terms?
you mean the slow-down, attempt at reversing and/or distorting/ corrupting Brexit has been a train wreck, as has the EU since its conception, as has Europe, since it has started apologizing for the west. The left are the train wreck. as usual. they always have been and always will. everything they touch they destroy. They are only good at tearing down. and building up only the state and people like you. blah blah blah same ol' boring leftist cancerous blah blah blah
Congrats on all the hyperbole here. A very good way of making not much of a point at all. Left and right needs each other for balance, isn’t it strange how in western democracies we seem to flit 50/50 from left to right. In my original comment I was talking directly about economic impact of brexit, any economist worth their salt knew it was going to make Britain worse off. Peterson is a man truth (in his own words) so I’m sure he knows this, so that’s why he could only offer his sympathies, ie. the situation is bad.
Couldn't be that because of the state of the EU, of the currency manipulation, the social and immigration policies that there will be an initial economic hardship for Britain? Yup. Ya' have to take an initial hit and give a blow, a major blow to the status quo, to move toward the right direction. But I guess we could just keep letting it be what it is, not sacrifice some hits, and let it all fall apart, including their sovereignty, just so that status quo can continue on their merry way.
oh and no, I completely disagree with the left and right need eachother. Sadness and happiness, light and dark, yin and yang need eachother, but leftism, feeds off the human nature that is unrefined, unlearned, the nature that gives in to its nature and does not fight it. Our founding, which is conservative, which was classically liberal, fought our natures. So, no. We do not need the left, we fight it, live with it, deal with, and accept way too much of it. But a world with leftist thought and behavior is not needed. I will concede that we should not forget it, and should remember it, learn from it, and I used to be a far left activist, but they are not needed for balance; they are needed to learn from and do the opposite. There is not balance when the left are in power, as we see in our MSM, our education system, hollywood, our financial markets, social policies, bureaucracies, etc.
You're poorer because of mass immigration and the welfare state.
Plenty of £ for immigrants sloshing around.