Jordan B. Peterson | Full interview | SVT/TV 2/Skavlan

2018 ж. 28 Қаз.
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Watch the complete Skavlan interview with psychologist and professor Jordan B. Peterson.
Also present in the studio are Swedish politician Annie Lööf and Norwegian author Erlend Loe. The show's presenter is Fredrik Skavlan.
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  • This is not even a conversation. He literally just taught a class.

    @modernlegacy5555@modernlegacy55554 жыл бұрын
    • Everyone who disagrees with me below is a brain dead sheep & the world would be better off without them

      @thegodofyoutube266@thegodofyoutube2664 жыл бұрын
    • @@thegodofyoutube266 its called thinking

      @youssefgoldaly1698@youssefgoldaly16984 жыл бұрын
    • youssef gold aly I’m better than you

      @thegodofyoutube266@thegodofyoutube2664 жыл бұрын
    • Jimmy The Gent your opinion won you 2 likes! Way to go champ!

      @wilfwilliams5780@wilfwilliams57804 жыл бұрын
    • Jimmy The Gent he literally said directly after that he wasn’t suggesting forcing couples who are bound to have trouble, to stay together! You wasted my time. Actually thought you were worth the debate. Your second comment speaks volumes!

      @wilfwilliams5780@wilfwilliams57804 жыл бұрын
  • Jordan Peterson isn't provocative, people are just easily offended nowadays.

    @DjBlakkTux@DjBlakkTux3 жыл бұрын
    • to be provoked is more of a response.

      @byronlippe@byronlippe3 жыл бұрын
    • As he said in order to think you have to be willing to be offensive

      @braulioxDify@braulioxDify3 жыл бұрын
    • People are bitches now days

      @preachthepoet2442@preachthepoet24423 жыл бұрын
    • In a world where people watch TikTok, each clip only lasts for seconds, more and more adults are acting like babies.

      @neojon4871@neojon48713 жыл бұрын
    • And a great quote I recently heard "It is very important not to offend people but it is equally important that we as a people not be so easily offended" - Unsure ; )

      @rizzo9197@rizzo91973 жыл бұрын
  • As a foreign language learner, one of the hallmark of the genius of Peterson is his language. I mean when you listen to him speaking and listen to the people with him speaking, it feels like they're using different languages. His complexity of structure, precision, expressiveness, and accurate choice of expression are all fascinating.

    @zainhummamy4272@zainhummamy4272 Жыл бұрын
    • I admire his command of the English language, and the ability to find the words be uses to express himself in an instant.

      @karlpach.9487@karlpach.9487 Жыл бұрын
    • He is very careful how he speaks❤

      @CatherineWoofsHallam@CatherineWoofsHallam Жыл бұрын
    • I admire his patience and kindness he showed, to his interviewers here who at times had some struggles articulating what they were thinking.

      @masterpopeyoda3290@masterpopeyoda329011 ай бұрын
    • Yea in public speaking grammar word choice and tone and meter….all just about perfect

      @duanecarr6712@duanecarr671210 ай бұрын
    • You will see this type of language in Dickens or Austin. It's the precision, they say exactly what they mean, definitely helps with understanding and almost more Importantly preventing misunderstanding. Excellent interview.

      @stevenson720@stevenson7209 ай бұрын
  • I was working as a fedex driver for the last 3 years working 70 hours a week, just to be suddenly laid off 2 days ago. Definitely at my lowest point but I came back here because Jordan’s words always gives me strength 🙏🏾 this is the beginning of greater. Although I weep as I write this. Love to all

    @92thegoat@92thegoat Жыл бұрын
    • You'll bounce back brotha 💪🏻

      @danielvail8764@danielvail8764 Жыл бұрын
    • @@danielvail8764 thank you fam 🙏🏾

      @92thegoat@92thegoat Жыл бұрын
    • all the best to you sir. You'll get thru this

      @chandraprasadsrajangan6077@chandraprasadsrajangan6077 Жыл бұрын
    • If you were able to do that demanding and difficult Fedex delivery job 70 hours a week for three years you need not be concerned about anything. You are destined for a great career elsewhere. I hope you are a Canadian.

      @jeffspicolli593@jeffspicolli593 Жыл бұрын
    • You Are Not Alone - There Are Many Like You - And They're Very Close Around. Reach Out.

      @JubbaheyChannel@JubbaheyChannel Жыл бұрын
  • This man saved me from suicide. I was literally about to jump off Niagara falls on a new years eve and was driving to get to Niagara from Toronto and was listening to him by accident on the way. I heard about him before. When I finally reached Niagara, the lighting and everything in the new years eve and seeing everyone so happy and joyful and what he said, I felt like I had another shot. I stopped at a Timmys, and felt extreme love and affection towards strangers in a way that they thought I was crazy. He literally breathed new life into me. I spent the entire night in Niagara on the lake, drove back the nex morning, everything felt different from that day onwards. It is unbelievable. Here I am! Not even the pandemic and lockdowns could make me feel down anymore.

    @Tdotttttt@Tdotttttt3 жыл бұрын
    • THIS is what I like to see on the internet

      @nikolaibardin-siekawitch1802@nikolaibardin-siekawitch18023 жыл бұрын
    • We were all created for times such as this. Through the works of God he used Peterson to save your life. You are not hopeless, you are not meaningless. From what I read in your post, it seems that God has put his hands on your life. We should all be grateful for that. 😊

      @alpha13dylan@alpha13dylan3 жыл бұрын
    • That’s amazing. What a beautiful story!

      @jjfitmomma5910@jjfitmomma59103 жыл бұрын
    • What a blessing. Your life has meaning. Not just to yourself, but to humanity. Be the best you possible and bless someone else.

      @jimeagle5483@jimeagle54833 жыл бұрын
    • All of this and these comments. We need more of this.

      @clarrichard@clarrichard3 жыл бұрын
  • This man isn’t debating them. He’s educating them lmao

    @jonassrensen1705@jonassrensen17052 жыл бұрын
    • He is an academic.

      @TheSmithNinja@TheSmithNinja Жыл бұрын
    • Turned a debate into a lecture lol

      @michaelolson3616@michaelolson3616 Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah it's fantastic to see how badly educated the others were. Their points and reactions were not even in the same ballpark. They did not understand much from Jordan. They think their opinion means as much as facts 🤣

      @zeus1117@zeus1117 Жыл бұрын
    • They didn’t even understand him… language barrier? Or just trolling him?

      @eternal2k4@eternal2k4 Жыл бұрын
    • Good call. Many people through the years have said he taught a class here.

      @johnq.random1496@johnq.random1496 Жыл бұрын
  • After she understood him, she sat down listening, learning and looking at him, with utmost admiration, well done sister, it's better to learn and change than remain a fool.

    @Allideas.@Allideas. Жыл бұрын
    • She does not seem to agree with him, but is respectful. I would agree that she understands him and that he isn't saying that women cannot do traditionally male roles or occupations, just that he believes its not a result of society but instead biology. Whether or not that is true is irrelevant really.

      @B16B0SS@B16B0SS Жыл бұрын
    • exactly, I didn't see it coming. I was astounded at her composure towards the end of the video

      @dumbiriezike5598@dumbiriezike5598 Жыл бұрын
    • Exemple of debatting, everyone is a winner in the end. If we only could listen to each others like that.

      @MojoVince@MojoVince Жыл бұрын
    • @@dumbiriezike5598 she's one of the more compassionate women

      @Lyonessi@Lyonessi Жыл бұрын
    • Exactly. That's why people need to listen more and talk less. If you disagree with somebody, try to understand as oppose to enter full emotional attack and defend mode. I think that's something we can all benefit from, especially in today's sometimes hostile society.

      @Don_Coyote@Don_Coyote11 ай бұрын
  • This was a beautiful interview because the agenda was to ask the man what he thought and why he thought those things. It's obvious that Jordan is light years ahead...and I think that's a large part why they stay out of the way to give way for his brilliance. I love this interview and will be coming back to watch over and over.

    @LarryDraughnMusic@LarryDraughnMusic3 ай бұрын
    • Yeah I wish we had a show like this in the US

      @db7819z@db7819z2 ай бұрын
    • I think JP is one of the most emotionally and intellectually intelligent people alive on the planet today. I find so many don't actually listen to what he has to say. They hear a part of it, misconstrue it, and try and pick a fight at their own peril ;-)

      @deej3209@deej3209Ай бұрын
  • "The most hated person in the room is the one who speaks the truth"

    @gospodinpendula6250@gospodinpendula62503 жыл бұрын
    • No, not at all.

      @citizen6458@citizen64583 жыл бұрын
    • @@citizen6458 Yes it is lol.

      @chty101@chty1013 жыл бұрын
    • @@citizen6458 yes it is.

      @hunterashwill5766@hunterashwill57663 жыл бұрын
    • Depends on the purpose of the group. I have been the bearer of illuminating facts in a professional settings, and, because I was respected for past work, the facts were accepted, and eventually led (with a great deal of work by greatly skilled coworkers and managers who knew how to build a team) to winning a multi-billion dollar contract against very competent competition.

      @DonMeaker@DonMeaker3 жыл бұрын
    • @@DonMeaker Wow dude thats crazy

      @chty101@chty1013 жыл бұрын
  • Three against one is significantly unfair, but at least he went easy on them.

    @duckingtheradar@duckingtheradar4 жыл бұрын
    • Nah the host kept smiling cuz he know he spitting facts

      @rrezonbeqiri5059@rrezonbeqiri50594 жыл бұрын
    • Jordan generally takes great care to go easy on his detractors.

      @Pomiferous@Pomiferous4 жыл бұрын
    • They had us in the first half, not gonna lie

      @qzon_981@qzon_9814 жыл бұрын
    • Hahaha. Jordan be like Jackie Chan lone fighting kungfu-hooligans easy.

      @_91K_@_91K_4 жыл бұрын
    • @@_91K_ They were easy pickins for sure.It's nice to have an easy day at the office from time to time.

      @Pomiferous@Pomiferous4 жыл бұрын
  • I could listen to Jordan forever. He’s helped me so much get through the last few years when I felt misguided by myself and society!!

    @MorganAshby@MorganAshby Жыл бұрын
    • Sick Old Misogynic Jordan Peterson kissing the Nazi Terrorbanus hard for 50 million HUF: "my message to Hungarians: Do not rebel against your Führer! What your prime minister is trying to do is to restore the metaphysical foundation of the Hungarian culturerace"

      @furerorban9324@furerorban9324 Жыл бұрын
    • Same!

      @1trompet146@1trompet1463 ай бұрын
  • When he speaks, you can’t help but to be struck by his wisdom.

    @nanojimenez7079@nanojimenez7079 Жыл бұрын
    • Amén to that ! I agree wholeheartedly 😅

      @pinkyi151@pinkyi15122 күн бұрын
  • The look on her face for all 38 minutes is like she’s still trying to take in the fact that 25 years of science contradicts her opinion

    @goodkisser8591@goodkisser85914 жыл бұрын
    • I understand she wants to empower her daughter but saying that boys have its easy, to make a success on this planet is not fair, and what the science shows what happens when you try to force a square peg in a round hole... Maybe I'm wrong but that what understand.

      @rpj1231@rpj12314 жыл бұрын
    • I don't think they understood what he was saying. I mean the questions they had were pretty strange given the discussion of Peterson

      @tmike9470@tmike94704 жыл бұрын
    • Paranoix _ the majority of people with similarly-themed false beliefs continue to embrace them and live in denial since it brings them more comfort and value - sadly though this simultaneously continues the spread of misinformation and the damage it causes. Hopefully she’s able to acknowledge the truth and move forward comfortably with it

      @goodkisser8591@goodkisser85914 жыл бұрын
    • The smile on her face when Peterson referenced her topic and acknowledges agreeableness :D 27:45

      @angelmendez7651@angelmendez76514 жыл бұрын
    • Christ, I just had to pause the video to say just this. That look confusion mixed with self-righteous indignation is just so pathetic. And she just keeps fucking repeating herself as if simply repeating what she feels to be true enough times, he'll eventually stop refuting her points and go 'oh, I'm sorry; you're right'. It's just disgusting.

      @allrequiredfields@allrequiredfields4 жыл бұрын
  • Ironically Dr Peterson's arguments and attitude are far more caring and respectful towards women than feminism.

    @rationalword1907@rationalword19075 жыл бұрын
    • Exactly, a lot of women are realizing it thankfully

      @QkFrosty@QkFrosty5 жыл бұрын
    • Hahahahaha it’s actually fucking hilarious

      @BeefWellington1@BeefWellington15 жыл бұрын
    • @HandyMan101 Thats not a true statement...

      @liemduong6729@liemduong67295 жыл бұрын
    • @HandyMan101 well, that's narrow-minded statement. Woman is there to provide next generations,she grows a person inside her and for this reason I hate when men say "women love men conditionally". Can you raise and educate your kids , pay your flat bills, get food without money? Just with your unconditional manly love? Then me as a woman cannot, I need food, place to live etc and if I create a family with a man I want a man to be able to support me and our children! So I find your statement humiliating..

      @BaibaVulgaris@BaibaVulgaris5 жыл бұрын
    • @HandyMan101 lmao, you have nothing to support your point so instead of replying to my questions you just threw in a general bullshit, haha, thanks for proving me and the whole order of the family and life right!:))

      @BaibaVulgaris@BaibaVulgaris5 жыл бұрын
  • This man has been an angel on earth. He’s causing an tremendous positive impact on our decadent world. I’m so grateful for having him spreading verities around. It was much needed.

    @cesarchiarelli8039@cesarchiarelli8039 Жыл бұрын
    • Agree. He's one in a gazillion.

      @selu5571@selu5571 Жыл бұрын
    • He IS greatly needed

      @anthonybaransky137@anthonybaransky137 Жыл бұрын
    • Hope and humility. He's like an elevator that makes us see the big picture of where we come from, where we are and where we seems to go. This vertical ascending shows how fragile is humans in this chaos but also the strength we also have available to fight against our own prejudice and vulnerability. Such great ambassador for humanty.

      @makirichi@makirichi4 ай бұрын
  • Watching the female guests expressions when he "educates" her is by far the best part of the interview. You can tell it resonates with her logically, but you can see the conflict within her political beliefs. This man is simply speaking the truth with facts and data and not involving emotions in any of his conversations. I very much enjoy listening to him speak..and by the looks of it, so did the panel, even if it made them question their politics and beliefs.

    @patrickcpuc5@patrickcpuc5 Жыл бұрын
    • I noticed that too. She looks at him in a very interesting way after he corrects her in a forceful and direct, but so kind and truthful way.

      @karlpach.9487@karlpach.9487 Жыл бұрын
    • That's because these women have never been put in their place. Once a real man talks to them in a civil manor, they get a sense of rebirth − in a way. This proves that we as society need to learn how we control our emotions, listen more and talk less, instead of being all in our feelings, get defensive and feel like we're being attacked. Because usually, it's a matter of understanding.

      @Don_Coyote@Don_Coyote11 ай бұрын
    • Your interpretation is doubtful. She’s appalled.

      @OpenRevorg@OpenRevorg8 ай бұрын
    • LOL. I'm thinking the woman on the panel still believes that woman should be equally represented in all proffessional and high paying jobs but with little to no representation in difficult, strenuous, dangerous and low paying jobs while the fellow with the beard is mulling divorce himself. One of the best panels hosting Dr. Peterson yet.

      @jeffspicolli593@jeffspicolli5938 ай бұрын
    • I do believe it is a conflict in her, because in Sweden they put rational thought and knowledge very highly, so they can't really reject science. And at the same time they rate equality highly. So it surely must have put her in a very difficult place mentally.

      @jhertel20@jhertel208 ай бұрын
  • You have to respect the Scandinavians, they actually let him speak more than a few seconds.

    @joshdeal6468@joshdeal64684 жыл бұрын
    • Josh Deal All Talk Shows should be like this. Let everybody talk and listen...then answer. I think that’s so much more productive.

      @jonasrettig327@jonasrettig3274 жыл бұрын
    • I just ADOOOREEEE Skavlan! When i want comedy/entertainment i watch Graham Norton, when i want to learn what's in the head of a person i am interested in (Ester Perel, Adele, Jordan B.Peterson, Sofia Helig, Ricky Gervais, some people from European cultural/political scene) - i click Skånlan. He is an amazing listener, but even more the audience amazes me, so modest, nice people...

      @donnadizucchero@donnadizucchero4 жыл бұрын
    • @@judasiscariot8396 He's just an immature little fuckboy acting all edgy by having that account-name.

      @innominatum9906@innominatum99064 жыл бұрын
    • @@innominatum9906 you said, to a guy who called himself Judas Iscariot. lol

      @UnbeltedSundew@UnbeltedSundew4 жыл бұрын
    • You don't know what you are seeing here. It is not a matter of letting him speak. It is that Peterson is far too cerebral for these people to react quickly, and they are a bit intimidated when encountering English speakers. It is important to note that this discussion goes WAY outside the box of allowed discourse in Scandinavia. They have never heard such arguments before. Notice at 8:00, Annie Lööf does not actually address the point being discussed, but simply slips back into a very safe cookie-cutter discussion about the kind of world she wants her children to live in with regard to equality. Any Swede in a group of 2 or more people would express that opinion exactly the same was as if they had a string in the backs of their necks to pull in order to talk automatically. Swedish discussion programmes on TV that feature only Swedes speaking Swedish are constant shouting matches. The topics of discussion tend to be banal and pedestrian anyway. This particular show is very much the exception.

      @paullambert8701@paullambert87014 жыл бұрын
  • I love that even though they all disagree with him, they're all letting him respond fully. This is what I like to watch.

    @umbragegigglygirl09@umbragegigglygirl094 жыл бұрын
    • I mean, this is probably more of a show where if they speak out of turn they have to leave. Also Jordans more out of whack discussions have been with the host who controls the conversation.

      @Brandon75689@Brandon756894 жыл бұрын
    • I agree. But it's also because they are incapable to interject, and seemingly having a hard time digesting the facts Jordan brought on them.

      @_91K_@_91K_4 жыл бұрын
    • they had some humility. indoctrinated likely, but in the face of competence had the strength of character to entertain the possibility that they were wrong, or at least they could improve. this is NOT an example of a leftist. this is an example of a liberal, commendable work.

      @dkillips@dkillips4 жыл бұрын
    • Well, i agree, they let him talk. What else could they do? They at least understood that they had nothing to say at the level of Peterson.

      @orangswiss8946@orangswiss89464 жыл бұрын
    • @@orangswiss8946 there's people like cethey newman who just spits bullshit eventhough she knows none

      @user-wv3fj5uu4h@user-wv3fj5uu4h4 жыл бұрын
  • Jordan Peterson is a gem. We are lucky to have him.

    @jimabraham8613@jimabraham8613 Жыл бұрын
  • A skillful interview because he actually listened and let his guest speak which is, after all why he's there.👏👏👏👏

    @GrahamS67@GrahamS67 Жыл бұрын
    • i have never heard such utter nonsense in my life. He is a bully and a narcisist. And golf is silly , Graham is a silly name. I think you should shut up and listen more to your older and wiser brothers.

      @bryans6151@bryans61518 ай бұрын
  • Peterson's patience with people CONSTANTLY misunderstanding him, even when sitting in front of him, is simply unmatched

    @ctr_1602@ctr_16023 жыл бұрын
    • seriously! It's like they already made up their mind about him and his views and so when he comes on and has completely logical answers to their "gotcha" questions that aren't extremist or mysogenistic, it doesnt even matter! It's like they don't even hear him. They just hear what they thought he was going to say lol

      @Hug_life@Hug_life3 жыл бұрын
    • Its not missunderstanding. Its trying to lead the person thats hearing this to the wrong conclusions. "So what you are saying is...." and peterson has great experience in not falling for that. Once you hear his answer you realise that the question is stupid/missleading and you recognise that....hopefully.

      @johnapostolopoulos4@johnapostolopoulos43 жыл бұрын
    • I don’t think they could unpack his ideas fast enough to keep up. I think he loses them at times and they revert back to “everyone should be equal because that’s fair”. He has mastered patience, no doubt.

      @justwondering1967@justwondering19673 жыл бұрын
    • @@justwondering1967 Really? To me it's just a blowhard kind of dog paddling through any and every question with the same answer, ..." That's not what I meant".

      @technanapi4076@technanapi40763 жыл бұрын
    • I thought about this I think its because of the way he talks. He talks like a robot.

      @Kwansmusic@Kwansmusic3 жыл бұрын
  • It amazes me how many of these interviewers just do not understand the difference between 'equality of opportunity' and 'equality of outcome'.

    @neildonaldsonlotusexcelresto@neildonaldsonlotusexcelresto3 жыл бұрын
    • this is basically the entire problem

      @paddym27@paddym273 жыл бұрын
    • In my opinion idea of equal outcome it is a product of envy. The belief that one person having something that another does not is unfair. The fantasy that two people have the same job should be paid the same even if they perform at different levels. Now that I think about it, could it be about self worth? You being paid more than me suggests that you are worth more than I am. People on the left need constant validation, they need to feel of equal value as people.

      @capenjck@capenjck3 жыл бұрын
    • @@doomnotron there are plenty of examples of this disconnect even when there is no language barrier.

      @paddym27@paddym273 жыл бұрын
    • Virtue signaling is not logical.

      @SJKKA@SJKKA3 жыл бұрын
    • I'm a bit new to this terminology. So is Peterson arguing that we should have "equality of opportunity" while the feminists want "equality of outcome"? Or am I getting them mixed up? Can someone please clarify

      @joestasitunes@joestasitunes3 жыл бұрын
  • The lady's facial expressions whenever Jordan is speaking is just wholesome... The cameran understood the assignment

    @MZRTMusic254@MZRTMusic254 Жыл бұрын
    • 😂😂😂👍

      @hotinvasile3959@hotinvasile3959Ай бұрын
    • The Live Director is the person who chooses which camera is used in which situations and directs the Technical Director who operates the switcher. The cameraman filming the lady is assigned to film only the lady.. so yes, you are correct, he probably understood the assignment.

      @penjamipesonen@penjamipesonenАй бұрын
  • "The lack of our best hurts everything" - best part for me

    @insomnia4139@insomnia41397 ай бұрын
  • Jordan Peterson: "Science has shown" "Studies have shown" Others: "I think" "I feel"

    @bychen5011@bychen50113 жыл бұрын
    • Anonymous that all the left have. In the centre we deal in fact.

      @kenrehill8775@kenrehill87753 жыл бұрын
    • They are hell-bent on social activism, empirical evidence is just an annoyance to them.

      @MrStuartp@MrStuartp3 жыл бұрын
    • @@MrStuartp :: You do understand that you're talking about two different groups of one political party, yes? God, we humans are so flawed with our tribal thinking...

      @cgme7076@cgme70763 жыл бұрын
    • @@cgme7076 I think you are not getting what I am saying, bit quick to judge. I'm referring to the feminist politician. Peterson lays out how gender quotas have been done, studied and failed. Yet she still has to hold on to her ideology and simply state she 'disagrees', like that's an argument against what he is saying? Maybe watch the video again so you understand lol.

      @MrStuartp@MrStuartp3 жыл бұрын
    • Paul Stuart :: You said “they” not “feminists”. Thanks for clarifying.

      @cgme7076@cgme70763 жыл бұрын
  • You can see from their faces thinking, ‘this guy makes sense but we can’t let him win easily’

    @LOGAN-lu4nz@LOGAN-lu4nz2 жыл бұрын
    • That's how you can know they aren't operating in good faith. None of this is ever really about making things better, always about implementing a belief in what they think is better. Ego and narcissism. Power. Nothing more.

      @SdotThompson@SdotThompson2 жыл бұрын
    • @@SdotThompson I'll actually disagree on the bad faith aspect of your comment. As with all good idea you shouldn't just immediately take what makes sense in one aspect and then not carefully scrutinise it, let's not forget that these people have their own ideology and trying to rationalise both the pre existing and new idea, so of course they will try analyse what dr. JBP is saying. I believe that other than some pointed questions by the host, that this was an incredibly civilised and rational conversation compared to other talks.

      @DiamondDomers@DiamondDomers2 жыл бұрын
    • To be honest, it was a better conversation because of it. I want to see how he handles these things so I can learn from it. Just agreeing wouldn't be fun.

      @Jay-eb7ik@Jay-eb7ik2 жыл бұрын
    • ​@@SdotThompson What governs it all is the virallity of the content. They can't let him win easily because content matters, or else you could just put a text-to-speech voice on a blank screen: no one would share it.

      @ClubeSocial@ClubeSocial2 жыл бұрын
    • Also the answer for this computational problem is truth.

      @ClubeSocial@ClubeSocial2 жыл бұрын
  • Thank God that we have Jordan Peterson to speak to us in a way that resonates to our very soul. He speaks from the heart, and combines this with great moral principles. I find his speaking to be educational, inspiring and full of hope, that good will triumph evil, and give someone a meaning to their existence. May God continue to bless you Jordan. 🙏

    @deantsar6246@deantsar62468 ай бұрын
  • This man is my new hero, I can't get enough of his conversations.

    @foxgood@foxgood Жыл бұрын
  • I get so frustrated with this woman every time I see this interview. She's not listening at all. She just keeps saying, "so, what's wrong with equality then" and he's not saying there's anything wrong. He's saying equality leads to diversity of choice, meaning people may not choose the same paths. It is not hard to understand!

    @margaretglatzel2893@margaretglatzel28933 жыл бұрын
    • I will give her respect.. I mean, you should see some of the Americans interviewing women that want to talk about Gender equality with him, oh man.. so unnecessarily rude.. She listened more than most, though she may have doubted his ideals, you can see she was trying to understand in her eyes

      @kylerodgers2045@kylerodgers20453 жыл бұрын
    • Yea nothing she says even has anything to do with what hes saying.

      @MrLoobu@MrLoobu3 жыл бұрын
    • I K R? 😆 It's the "I know you are but what am I? " approach to reason.

      @aubreyholman1951@aubreyholman19513 жыл бұрын
    • *massive difference in intellectual capacity, she wasn't able to follow what he was saying, let alone formulate an ongoing debate...

      @boohacker@boohacker3 жыл бұрын
    • Agreed. It seems to me that what she wants is for children to be raised gender neutral, that girls and boys can think alike ignoring DNA or whatever it is that makes the genders inherently different. She fails to comprehend that equal opportunity does not mean equal outcome. Even though girls have the opportunity to become fighter pilots they may not become fighter pilots by choice. So the outcome isn't an equal number of men vs women pilots.

      @capenjck@capenjck3 жыл бұрын
  • They always ask "why is your audience primarily male" early on like they are gonna catch him being misogynist or something. Every damn time

    @Ghalion666@Ghalion6665 жыл бұрын
    • I've noticed the same thing. They always ask it with such suspicion, like there's something wrong with that. So fucking annoying.

      @karkkimarkkinat2109@karkkimarkkinat21095 жыл бұрын
    • Yup so annoying

      @PIEOHMY95@PIEOHMY955 жыл бұрын
    • It's a pretty reasonable question....

      @trollnerd@trollnerd5 жыл бұрын
    • @@trollnerd It is a reasonable question, but you need to take context into account. There's a recurring pattern among every interviewer who asked him that question. It's not a coincidence.

      @alexnezhynsky9707@alexnezhynsky97075 жыл бұрын
    • I am his female viewer and I am baffled by this question every time. Of course his advice is primarily for men, so it will attract more men. But he's not excluding women and any woman can learn a heck of a lot from listening to him, especially when it comes to choosing a partner for life and family. I learned what to be aware of and what to seek. I actually WANT more men listening to him and taking his advice to heart.

      @Violka1987@Violka19875 жыл бұрын
  • Without a shadow of doubt, when JP speaks about how his father spent time with him, despite his being a 'task-master', and especially when he recalls the feedback from people on the positive effect he has had on them, it touches his heart profoundly. It's like the recognition that his work on building individuals' self-esteem gives his life true significance. You can see that he is close to crying. He is both highly cognitively and emotionally intelligent, as well as being intellectually competent. Powerful gifts he has. Must also be exhausting and lonely at times. People think they'll have a discussion with him but his level of genius is quite unmatched. He just talks sense and has done his research to make him an expert with tremendous knowledge and outstanding communication skills. I really admire his heart and mind.

    @sirjaya2534@sirjaya25348 ай бұрын
  • I enjoyed this very much. A civilized conversation without anyone insisting on their own beliefs as being paramount. Jordan is such a well spoken individual, clearly educated in many areas besides clinical psychology. The truth of what he speaks comes out clearly if one is not stubborn to a single thought of how things are or should be. I loved the honour that he gave his parents for his growth outcome. Thanks again

    @CD-lw6fl@CD-lw6fl Жыл бұрын
  • It's shocking that saying "men and women are different" is shocking

    @ShogunV@ShogunV5 жыл бұрын
    • He's just saying the most obvious, simple things in a concise way and everyone thinks it's mind-blowing. Like he says, this stuff isn't even contested amongst those who study the field.

      @Kathayne636@Kathayne6365 жыл бұрын
    • I don't understand how it's controversial in the least.

      @Kathayne636@Kathayne6365 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah, all of a sudden biological common sence is controversial...

      @Laweryn@Laweryn5 жыл бұрын
    • Damn you and your pesky statistics and data. As the lady says in this video after hearing exhaustively scientifically proven facts: I disagree

      @dh0514883@dh05148835 жыл бұрын
    • k 9 9 8 . 9

      @redoxhilk1055@redoxhilk10555 жыл бұрын
  • An actual interview and a discussion about topics they disagreed on. Not a non-stop barrage of attacks or attempts to smear him. Up vote

    @makhseed@makhseed3 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah, Finally!

      @vakhtangi24@vakhtangi243 жыл бұрын
    • @@vakhtangi24 no they tried

      @thoticcusprime9309@thoticcusprime93093 жыл бұрын
    • I think the host asked because he geniunely didn't understand. Trying to live by leftist media ideology gets confusing I'm sure.

      @JustinBailey91@JustinBailey913 жыл бұрын
    • I do not think they even understood the point of ( outcome ) or preferences, men and women are equal but they obviously have different preferences ( at least in certain areas of life ) , that is normal, why are they being skeptical about it?!

      @SirDavid247@SirDavid2473 жыл бұрын
    • I was thinking the exact same thing, made me reflect.

      @TyCollage@TyCollage3 жыл бұрын
  • Nice to see that people who disagree can still have a good discussion without sorting to verbal personal attacks. Respect!

    @kennethblaabjergfog2197@kennethblaabjergfog2197 Жыл бұрын
  • What a pleasure to see educated and, more importantly, respectful adults going about their business. I’ve huge admiration for all 4. Jordan has them absolutely transfixed.

    @danielconnolly8565@danielconnolly85655 ай бұрын
  • It's genuinely scary how many people can't grasp the difference between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome

    @adambartlett6277@adambartlett62772 жыл бұрын
    • mate, spot on. I was trying to come up with a better word than scary, but I couldn't!

      @crazyg74@crazyg742 жыл бұрын
    • Maybe it also have somthing to do with the fact that many people want what they wrongly consider a "fair" world, where nobody schould be better then the next person, many people have a hard time grasping, that some are born with a higher IQ and some just higher and some are more beautiful and others seem`s to have all the luck or are born in to a family who made a lot of good choices in the past and get a advantages that way Etc. Etc. Etc. insted of playing the hand they where giving and get the most out of it, they whine about a unfair world. "There have always been and always will be those who are driven by hate and want to blame those who are happy, creative and productive for their misery." --Terry Goodkind.

      @Uriel-Septim.@Uriel-Septim.2 жыл бұрын
    • Thats because the people teaching our kids are deliberately trying to confuse the two and push there own views/agenda upon our kids, imagine a teacher sharing the same views such as JP in an interview, no way would that person get the job. For some reason i cant reply to Ram R (top comment) ,i been there too. i understand that feeling too.Glad you turned it round.

      @Skitzofrenix01@Skitzofrenix012 жыл бұрын
    • one of the biggest factors in the destruction of the west

      @mightydane5144@mightydane51442 жыл бұрын
    • @@Skitzofrenix01 "Education is not merely neglected in many of our schools today, but is replaced to a great extent by ideological indoctrination."--Thomas Sowell. "Ours may become the first civilization destroyed, not by the power of our enemies, but by the ignorance of our teachers and the dangerous nonsense they are teaching our children. In an age of artificial intelligence, they are creating artificial stupidity." --Thomas Sowell.

      @Uriel-Septim.@Uriel-Septim.2 жыл бұрын
  • His ideology is basically, make children strong so they can be useful to society despite their gender and race love this guy

    @Yesirr44@Yesirr442 жыл бұрын
    • So simple and so true. He's the only one that came into the conversation to have a conversation, the rest came to score points and profess their virtue.

      @SdotThompson@SdotThompson2 жыл бұрын
    • That'd be true if he wouldn't base his ideology on religious dogmas

      @sacryss@sacryss2 жыл бұрын
    • @@sacryss I understand why you would presume that because on a surface level, it certainly seems that way. But in listening to his lectures on Genisis and his talks with Bret Weinstein and Sam Harris, he’s no religious nut. He isn’t a biblical literalist. He draws a lot of fundamental truths from religious texts without accrediting them with any scientific recognition. From an atheists perspective, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.

      @samjohnstonemusic6328@samjohnstonemusic63282 жыл бұрын
    • @@sacryss only certain fundamentals. I was raised Christian. Got away from church early. Never enjoyed it. However I am also morally based in certain Christian fundamentals. Not all of course.

      @jonlee1290@jonlee12902 жыл бұрын
    • You can't even call it an ideology really. It should be common sense.

      @user-ty9xy3by5k@user-ty9xy3by5k2 жыл бұрын
  • All the guests were so respectful ! Thank you for the kind and calm discussion

    @sajjadsaddam2012@sajjadsaddam20129 ай бұрын
  • I admire his ability to remain calm and every word he speaks is coming from his well of knowledge and life experience he has a unique ability to just be forthright with people balanced with a genuine empathy he is not just spewing opinions he is someone to learn from and emulate I feel wiser every time I listen to him he's got a gift

    @michellescroggins8694@michellescroggins8694 Жыл бұрын
    • An absolute breath of fresh air in humankind. Such informed, relevant intelligence and so so spot on with Chloe Cole interview. The man explained puberty and the rocky road many girls, like Chloe travel. Just think how many young and older people Jordan could have, and most definety has indeed, saved from a world of torment, pain and grief with his spot on manner, and content, of Exactly what a mental health professional should be. Reeducate or retrain Jordan. I am still laughing about the absurdity of such a communist styled idea, to silence those who threaten those jealous, nefarious underbelly type weasels who lack the capacity to retain and understand even a third of the content Jordan stores in his amazing brain. Reeducate Jordan. To those who believe that is what is necessary and appropriate on any level I say this to you. "Good Will Hunting" Do yourself a favour, watch it, and you may understand where I am going with ANYONE who thnks, or dares to attempt such an IDIOTIC act. He would not be the one who would be reeducated. Respect - an understatement indeed , when I watch this genious. 💞

      @Paxe13@Paxe13 Жыл бұрын
  • Jordan Peterson: "The data shows quite clearly..." Someone else: "But I don't feel like..." Jordan Peterson: "THE. DATA. SHOWS. QUITE. CLEARLY...."

    @ChillBuilds@ChillBuilds3 жыл бұрын
    • And Remember these are the same people who claim to believe so strongly in science. Obvious they only use when convenient, ignore when they don't like. They're the true science deniers.

      @kevinodom2918@kevinodom29183 жыл бұрын
    • yet the data on climate change or the existence of god he can ignore right?

      @RawMaterialENT@RawMaterialENT3 жыл бұрын
    • @Jim Browski the right are wildly anti intellectual, climate change, trans (studies are out), trickle down..always wrong about everything, systemic racism, fucking wearing masks and corona virus, election fraud. You have to be partially lobotomized to be on the right

      @RawMaterialENT@RawMaterialENT3 жыл бұрын
    • @@RawMaterialENT Nothing here has anything to do with "The Right" or "The Left". Forcing people to be either with you or against you is a great way to push people away from you.

      @eristef@eristef3 жыл бұрын
    • @@RawMaterialENT your tribalism is on full blast.

      @totalrobot@totalrobot3 жыл бұрын
  • He doesnt provoke me, he makes me think clearer.

    @Crookqt@Crookqt4 жыл бұрын
    • "Provoking" is how some people can barely conceptualize what are actually just challenging ideas.

      @FabianJacquin@FabianJacquin4 жыл бұрын
    • @@FabianJacquin After "provoke" comes "offensive" then micro aggression...

      @bluejeans5770@bluejeans57704 жыл бұрын
    • @@bluejeans5770 Yes! then "hate speech" and "violent speech" which is how the extremists justify protests and getting physically violent because you are committing "violence" with your speech

      @verminsfate@verminsfate4 жыл бұрын
    • He's a thought provocateur.

      @get8bit@get8bit3 жыл бұрын
    • Same

      @marshmallowvampire8503@marshmallowvampire85033 жыл бұрын
  • i liked this interview. These people were asking genuine questions and didnt try to play any games with him. I actually watched the entire thing. Good work people. Respect.

    @nonusbusinissus5632@nonusbusinissus5632 Жыл бұрын
  • This man is a living book of good advice, supported by data and science. I listen to him every day. Thank you Jordan 💜

    @tilen4508@tilen4508 Жыл бұрын
  • Why can't people understand this man? He is speaking with facts. He isn't biased.

    @IamINERT@IamINERT3 жыл бұрын
    • I do understand him 🙂 Love being a woman, love hid message. I find it to be true.

      @milokaz2753@milokaz27533 жыл бұрын
    • I think you answered your own question.

      @ericdodson2644@ericdodson26443 жыл бұрын
    • They just hear the labels that other biased individuals place on him to fit their own agendas, i.e. "Jewish shill" vs "nazi". It breaks my heart that people don't actually hear his message. So much good to get out of it for people of any gender or color. Be the best you can be, take on the responsibilities that frighten you and meet those challenges, and thereby create a meaningful life. So many people are looking for meaning these days. It's easy, it's within you.

      @woozie___@woozie___3 жыл бұрын
    • Because many people are incompetent.....that's why people like him exist in the first place

      @bucktownxxx@bucktownxxx3 жыл бұрын
    • Because they are biased. They are emotionally invested in their own world view and resent that the facts don't agree with what they already believe to be true. It can't be that they are wrong, so it must be him.

      @chriswhite2151@chriswhite21513 жыл бұрын
  • The bald interviewer was asking Peterson for a way to divorce his wife

    @Johnny-lj5ef@Johnny-lj5ef3 жыл бұрын
    • Ikr!!! "hm hm hm .. how old does the kid have to be for me to gtfo?"

      @vaneyes5137@vaneyes51373 жыл бұрын
    • He was already divorced at that point. That's why he was interested in the topic.

      @SohamBhattacharya3105@SohamBhattacharya31053 жыл бұрын
    • This made me laugh a lot.

      @luigichallis1439@luigichallis14393 жыл бұрын
    • Lol I read this hilarious comment right when he started to inquire lol 😂

      @LivieLiv723@LivieLiv7233 жыл бұрын
    • Looked like it! It's pretty much the only subject he asked clarifications for.

      @GabbrEL@GabbrEL3 жыл бұрын
  • I love how they actually are interested him as a person. They let him speak and calmly try to understand his opinions whether or not it matches theirs.

    @abanikohli4022@abanikohli4022 Жыл бұрын
  • Wonderful lecture, timeless. Watching this again reminds me of my college years. Dr. Peterson is a natural teacher and these videos are a treasure for young people.

    @dougsherman1562@dougsherman1562 Жыл бұрын
    • Well, thanks for calling me young. I have learned more from him about how to behave, than anyone else. He is one of the reasons I am able to live a loving life with a great great woman and my daughter, and able to provide not only finance but also being a father and a husband. Sure, it takes that I choose to tell the truth, stand up for myself, find self-encouragement, etc. - but - this gentleman Jordan Peterson is so full of great encouragement in his tough tough tough ways to put things straight as he thinks them. He has thought so long and far, about those things he says, so that he has made his utterances extremely valuable for us. So, as a 60 year old now, I am learning from him, implementing, and having success with what I learn from him. What a man... What a leader...

      @davidsvarrer8942@davidsvarrer89422 ай бұрын
  • Jordan Peterson: "The science, the literature, the history, the data, the statistics..." Annie Loof: "I feel..."

    @Gaudion@Gaudion3 жыл бұрын
    • Ben Shapiro enters

      @reznovnata3889@reznovnata38893 жыл бұрын
    • @@reznovnata3889 shapiro is a controlled RINO, he is glenn becks little jew

      @balazamon@balazamon3 жыл бұрын
    • @@balazamon what?????

      @reznovnata3889@reznovnata38893 жыл бұрын
    • @@reznovnata3889 ben shapiro is controlled opposition, he is glenn becks clone and is part of the never trump opposition. he lied about lewandowski and is nothing more than a shill

      @balazamon@balazamon3 жыл бұрын
    • The Three Fs of female speech: Feel, Felt, and Feeling. "I just feel so...", "And it made me feel like...", "I'm feeling...", "I felt so..." Who needs Logic & Reason when you have feelings & emotions?

      @brandonlesko3126@brandonlesko31263 жыл бұрын
  • That lady’s confused face can only be the result of her realizing her entire world view is a sham

    @steve-5530@steve-55304 жыл бұрын
    • we all went through the same the first time we met peterson

      @sanchitverma8687@sanchitverma86874 жыл бұрын
    • shez more nuts than our resident squirrels

      @davidturner1641@davidturner16414 жыл бұрын
    • @@sanchitverma8687 my entire world isnt a shhammmm. I have had to learn and change.

      @davidturner1641@davidturner16414 жыл бұрын
    • @Eric Miret good for you

      @sanchitverma8687@sanchitverma86874 жыл бұрын
    • @@davidturner1641 obviously it was a joke. we all found enlightening insights when we first heard what peterson had to say.

      @sanchitverma8687@sanchitverma86874 жыл бұрын
  • I so often come back here to listen to this conversation again. I am so impressed by how he manages to make his point so clear and almost undiputeable, how easy it seems for him to answer to these really diffucult questions and how he also can show himself as someone with empathy and good will for all the people out there. It's like listening to the best possible mentor/teacher that could ever exist. Thank you Mr Peterson, I hope you can go on and enlighten us for a long time to come.

    @niceattitude4280@niceattitude4280Ай бұрын
  • Thank you Skavlan, for doing shows like this.

    @BelieveNoGod@BelieveNoGod Жыл бұрын
  • "Admitting vulnerability is not weakness. It's courage."

    @justinkim7202@justinkim72024 жыл бұрын
    • They cannot grasp the concept that to admit vulnerability is courageous, while vulnerabilities within themselves are in no way virtuous or automatically 'brave'.

      @MIck-M@MIck-M4 жыл бұрын
    • Admitting vulnerability is like saying: "I have a weak spot, right here, see? You can strike it if you want. I can handle that. It won't destroy me." Nothing's weak about it, as long as that is true. If you can survive when your vulnerability is exploited you can survive anything. Pretending there is no vulnerability is to be afraid that you can't, in fact, survive that.

      @MrRavellon@MrRavellon4 жыл бұрын
    • Facts!

      @z33n1c3@z33n1c34 жыл бұрын
    • @@MrRavellon Actually, what Dr. Peterson meant is that to admit vulnerability is to accept that there's something wrong with you and that you've gotta fix that. And to fix that, you often have to "go into the unknown". Pretending that there is nothing wrong with you is to avoid facing the facts/truth about yourself in order to avoid having to do anything about it, which means you can stay in your little comfort zone.

      @justinkim7202@justinkim72024 жыл бұрын
    • @@justinkim7202 no, that's weakness you're talking about. Weakness is a flaw. Vulnerability is not. Anything you care about deeply enough creates vulnerability in you. To "fix" those vulnerabilities you would have to stop caring. That's not a good thing.

      @MrRavellon@MrRavellon4 жыл бұрын
  • I literally cannot understand why people find JP so "controversial."

    @TaraNikita@TaraNikita3 жыл бұрын
    • I agree. I could understand someone subscribing to different data and forming a different opinion but as he says, he is simply telling the truth as he sees it.

      @josephmatthews3078@josephmatthews30783 жыл бұрын
    • because he speaks truth to power....the culture today does not care about truth they care about irrational emotional behaviour and giving into those feelings to the detrement of the individual or society...it will create more grievances and more authoritarian behaviours...in extreme cases, persecutions!

      @SamohtNox@SamohtNox3 жыл бұрын
    • Never underestimate people's capacity for ignoring/denying uncomfortable truths.

      @erwinsorno6908@erwinsorno69083 жыл бұрын
    • Arrogance. Narcissism. Watch her face as the interview goes on. From about the 15 min mark every time the camera cuts to her, her smirk is growing, as she's retreating into what she believes and building and submitting to her own confirmation bias of "this pos". Now what I want to see is her watch this back, with a body language expert breaking it down to her. Doesn't even consider his points, which are backed by between 25 and 100 years of psychological study.

      @derekwood3189@derekwood31893 жыл бұрын
    • @@SamohtNox and often they are such miserable people that when they force people to also think the way they do, it is satisfying. Either the power over others or their own feeling of moral superiority drives them. No facts can tell them they shouldn't believe these things. The people in power either have ulterior motives or honestly feel they know what is best for us better than we know what is best for us.

      @shaunr5450@shaunr54503 жыл бұрын
  • Nice to see him in a relaxed interview without people trying to unsettle him.

    @crispy.monkey@crispy.monkey Жыл бұрын
  • I actually love how these people do not interrupt him while not necessarily agree with him. This is what interviews and debates should look like. Well done Scandinavia! Definitely subscribed.

    @ciankai@ciankai8 ай бұрын
  • Why do people have such a hard time understanding the difference between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome? Also why are people so shocked to hear that men and women tend to make different choices and have different priorities in their lives? Men and women are different. It is not a difficult concept.

    @geraldm4728@geraldm47285 жыл бұрын
    • In their minds difference = bad

      @MattieK09@MattieK095 жыл бұрын
    • @@MattieK09 Sorry to bother you mate but are you saying that the same people that support multiculturalism and LGBT rights consider differences to be bad? I mean you're probably not saying that but in that case your comment is an oversimplification that doesn't give credit to the swedes when it's due.

      @henriklybeck579@henriklybeck5795 жыл бұрын
    • ​@@henriklybeck579 Well that's not a accurate way to frame them. But, YES, those in the cult of intersectionality do not like any facts that are adverse to their narrative. Literally 1000s of YT vids you can watch.

      @MattieK09@MattieK095 жыл бұрын
    • @@MattieK09 I mistook you to be making a generalised statement about swedes, which you obviously weren't, so I did the same. I agree with you though so thanks for opening up your comment.

      @henriklybeck579@henriklybeck5795 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah, but the weird thing is, I think the lady really truly believed it when she shared her thoughts around 12:30 in such a striking way.. Peterson has mentioned the swedish situation before, but these people are treating him like he just dropped off of mars.. look at how silent they are.. She really believes that a person is plastic, that parenting/culture can shape a person.. and what if she's actually right.. As for Peterson from the Americas, where the push for individuality, personality, loudness, and selection for elevated testosterone actually occurs more naturally, perhaps he is mistaken that this translates easily to areas of the world that are perhaps on a different course.. maybe Scandinavia is actually a few generations away from real ambivalence of outcome.. (science may observe, but perhaps doesn't entirely know where humans are heading).. Perhaps toward the historically murky territory of pre-christian european culture, which I haven't heard peterson really speak on, which contained a variety of queens and powerful priestesses, and perhaps more equality in the hierarchy at times.. some of these dark web intellectuals should maybe talk about the social structures of pre-christian europe (edited for my poor grammar that I don't want to remain here forever)

      @uniquename846@uniquename8465 жыл бұрын
  • He is a master at speaking to people who hate him and don't understand him.

    @erichaynes4049@erichaynes40493 жыл бұрын
    • He’s the one where there is an attempt at being “provoked” - he simply chooses not to be.

      @aaciahussain9086@aaciahussain90863 жыл бұрын
    • What about the people who dislike him and DO understand him ?

      @palmereldritch7777@palmereldritch77773 жыл бұрын
    • @@palmereldritch7777 There are plenty of those people, and many of the things they say are worth listening to, but I've never seen or heard him be interviewed by someone like that.

      @erichaynes4049@erichaynes40493 жыл бұрын
    • @@erichaynes4049 Interviewed or debated ? As an interviewer you hopefully give your interviewee the space to make his own statements. You just ask a question, and you can ask a tricky question, but you don't engage in criticism - cause hey if you're not gonna fight it, then you are having a debate, not an interview. Seeing more and more debates with Peterson, with people who do understand him and see where he's getting at ....and simply don't agree with his premises and the stuff he just assumes to be true. For example his analysis of Bible stories, going deeper and deeper, is for him a proof of Judeo Christian tradition being on a higher level than other religions. Uhmmm, Really? why ? Just because he can look deeper and deeper nd see more meaning? Hell, you can look at any work of art worth it's salt and find deeper and deeper meaning in infinite layers. You can look at the stars and find infinite meaning. (and people did and do- even Judeo Christians). so does that make the Bible a "special book above all others" ? Mweeeh, no, not from where i'm standing. And his analysis itself seems to be on somewhat shaky ground- projecting his own ideas into the book. (for the record i think the Bible was more or less designed that way - hence you have 100 and counting different varieties of bible interpretation and which one is the correct one? Jordan Peterson's ?). so is it the book, the stories as Peterson himself claims? Or the interpreter?. Personally i'd say it usually falls somewhere in between. There are a few scientists and artists who can communicate exactly what they want. but even then it is what people get out of it - or not. Butin the end that doesn't make the Bible a "special" book. just A book. (with some interminable boring passages between some good yarns. And a couple that make no sense whatsoever- you know the one)

      @palmereldritch7777@palmereldritch77773 жыл бұрын
    • @@XFR18 yup, and if he can't get his message across that well, maybe he has a problem in communicating. On the whole I'd say it's quite clear though and the more I listen to him the more holes appear in his narrative.

      @palmereldritch7777@palmereldritch77773 жыл бұрын
  • his effect on people is awesome, he is so intelligent and well spoken and full of wisdom. i feel like anyone could gain some useful insights if they decided to listen and learn.

    @AyanamiRei5kyu@AyanamiRei5kyu Жыл бұрын
  • 27:19 I love it when JP laugh 🥹 he’s such a dad. Our favorite internet dad ❤️

    @marteumar8429@marteumar8429 Жыл бұрын
  • Who else noticed that Jordan Peterson just gave these people a free therapy session?

    @isaiahgere9283@isaiahgere92833 жыл бұрын
    • And he gave all of us a great lecture :)... I really wish him the best

      @paulitovz@paulitovz3 жыл бұрын
    • good point.

      @giacomolontra3707@giacomolontra37073 жыл бұрын
    • Sure as hell wasn't free, tho🤣 likely one of the most expensive sessions he's ever given lol

      @anthonymuc@anthonymuc3 жыл бұрын
    • I legit thought the bearded lad was actually there for therapy hahaha

      @akshay_creates@akshay_creates3 жыл бұрын
    • 😹😹😹😹😹 so true 🤘🏾🤘🏾

      @quantumreality2009@quantumreality20093 жыл бұрын
  • They were however far more courteous than any American liberal would've been.

    @interstellar618@interstellar6183 жыл бұрын
    • Maybe but Americans (and more specifically those living in the north of the US) tend to more blunt/straight forward than people in the EU about everything so it may seem that way when they are really just as angry (if your talking about the crazy activists). There are radical and rude people for every opinion that exists.

      @dr.martinlroberts1908@dr.martinlroberts19083 жыл бұрын
    • @@dr.martinlroberts1908 I find Europeans (especially Germans and Scandinavians ) to be shockingly blunt :P

      @kingfischer@kingfischer3 жыл бұрын
    • there was a massive level of passive/agressive going on. levels of which should not be possible.

      @naughteedesign@naughteedesign3 жыл бұрын
    • American liberals like Sam Harris? You participate in the same identity politics that Peterson was criticizing yet are completely unaware. You should listen to his ideas more closely.

      @alexhoward1884@alexhoward18843 жыл бұрын
    • I don't think they understood what he was saying. The blonde said that women in her culture should be able to go into whatever job, right after Peterson said that was fine.

      @adbarnett5@adbarnett53 жыл бұрын
  • I could listen to him for days.

    @lucreziamapelli@lucreziamapelli3 ай бұрын
  • Some of the facial expressions on Fredrik's face as Jordan was making certain points in a very direct way were just "PURE GOLD"! He couldn't believe what he was hearing! Haha!

    @SacredNerve@SacredNerve Жыл бұрын
  • I am so tired of women seeing us women as ” victims”, no! I am a mother of 4 boys! I like being a feminine intelligent woman!!! LOVE Dr. PETERSON! Thank you 🙏🏽

    @silviacarolinalangowski8442@silviacarolinalangowski84423 жыл бұрын
    • Its all about common sense. Glad to hear your point cheers me up.

      @warrioromarzthefirst5949@warrioromarzthefirst59493 жыл бұрын
    • I am woman too and I agree your points

      @ikatrimeynarsihombing9903@ikatrimeynarsihombing99033 жыл бұрын
    • Exactly! Thank you.

      @JosephineMarch7@JosephineMarch73 жыл бұрын
    • I'm a 16 year old girl and I totally agree.

      @thefaithful4337@thefaithful43373 жыл бұрын
    • Peterson is basically saying what? That rich white men are badly oppressed.

      @garsm2290@garsm22903 жыл бұрын
  • Jordan: cites 25 years of constantly replicated scientific studies and factual data Blonde girl: well I don’t think that

    @goodkisser8591@goodkisser85914 жыл бұрын
    • Common Sense how does that come into play here at all? Please explain

      @aestheticleviathan7028@aestheticleviathan70283 жыл бұрын
    • Common Sense trump derangement syndrome is real...you are my example.

      @robo2729@robo27293 жыл бұрын
    • I watched a TED talk about this feminist who was making a documentary about mens rights activists, and she goes on to say how she wasnt actually listening to them but just waiting for them to say something offensive, ect. She realised that what was the piont if they didnt listen, people's veiws may differ, but that doesnt mean we cant LISTEN.

      @rbike3032@rbike30323 жыл бұрын
    • @@rbike3032 That was most interesting to watch to see her explain how she didn't understand what she had been doing. How it took her a long time to see herself and the other side and break free of her ideology. It had so much power of her.

      @FramedSabotage@FramedSabotage3 жыл бұрын
    • Its more like: "I don't feel that is true." That is the irony .

      @xk4mix@xk4mix3 жыл бұрын
  • The way he speaks is so unfiltered that you can tell by how he speaks how much he knows and how honest he is.

    @concernedcommenter8258@concernedcommenter825820 күн бұрын
  • This is one of the best interviews I've watched, so I watched it several times. Thank you for sharing!

    @BirtheGraf@BirtheGraf Жыл бұрын
  • “The evidence proves that you are wrong.” “I don’t agree.”

    @KizaWittaker@KizaWittaker4 жыл бұрын
    • Lol that was so unbelievable

      @yitzchaksviridyuk932@yitzchaksviridyuk9324 жыл бұрын
    • When a politician meets science.... www.enbartpolitik.com

      @enbartpolitik3247@enbartpolitik32474 жыл бұрын
    • Hahaha well put

      @edevaldosilva3104@edevaldosilva31044 жыл бұрын
    • Your evidence appalls me.I'm switching to another study.

      @Pomiferous@Pomiferous4 жыл бұрын
    • This. Like wtf.

      @andreasamudio7272@andreasamudio72724 жыл бұрын
  • Lmao the bald guy sneaked in a quick therapy session for himself

    @gabykahn4602@gabykahn46023 жыл бұрын
    • Hahaha that's what I was thinking. When he said "Go back to the divorce question" I knew he wanted some therapy lol

      @GameCrawler@GameCrawler3 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah balled guy legit red pilled in front of our eyes

      @R9000S@R9000S3 жыл бұрын
    • 🤣🤣🤣🤣

      @nickaduda6032@nickaduda60323 жыл бұрын
    • HAHAHAHA

      @TheRealRoch108@TheRealRoch1083 жыл бұрын
    • Hairist :)

      @djlunaticdreyfuss7562@djlunaticdreyfuss75623 жыл бұрын
  • I never understand one word this man says , but I can listen to him for hours on end , his tone is so reassuring , and comforting

    @jackmag4056@jackmag405610 ай бұрын
  • Im Brazilian and after see yours lectures my life change positive

    @jacarebanguelatoyotacamry4552@jacarebanguelatoyotacamry45526 ай бұрын
  • I was impressed by the questions that were asked. In American media, the interviewer never, ever, ever asks about the interviewee. The interviewers just argue, smirk and talk over them. Probably one of the best interviews I've seen in a while.

    @computerservant@computerservant3 жыл бұрын
    • watch JP and a british legend Russell Brand conversations, they are really good

      @joethomas8640@joethomas86403 жыл бұрын
    • Yes! The Questions Were Amazing.

      @donmcphil2167@donmcphil21673 жыл бұрын
    • Well that's American Televsision for you, since your best Interviewers are either Dead or in Prison.

      @MrKlotzi123@MrKlotzi1233 жыл бұрын
    • YES

      @inthelandofmorethansmall7582@inthelandofmorethansmall75823 жыл бұрын
    • @@joethomas8640 british legend ?

      @johnfused8281@johnfused82813 жыл бұрын
  • How to prevent divorce: 1. Learn to negotiate 2. Be clear about what you want 3. Resolve conflicts as they arise 4. Tell the truth

    @nicholasmcgee4630@nicholasmcgee46302 жыл бұрын
    • Absolutely, and one other point, which imo has to Top that list - figure all of that shit out BEFORE marrying.

      @19RaxR91@19RaxR912 жыл бұрын
    • 5.) Buy her A HUGE 💍💎

      @Xfranman@Xfranman2 жыл бұрын
    • 6. Never leave any bruises It's a JOKE

      @adamnixon2886@adamnixon28862 жыл бұрын
    • @@Xfranman no man Diamonds are a scam only for people to spend money thats BS.. create something on your own and gift it to your special one ..

      @halconsalvaje@halconsalvaje2 жыл бұрын
    • Simpler alternative..............do not get married. Do not let her start moving her things in. Do not let yourself be guilted or otherwise coerced into taking the relationship any further then you are comfortable with. If at some point you start thinking about marriage, buy your house and anything of any real value that you dont want to loose at least a year before you get married. Do not let her move in till after you are married. If she doesnt like that idea and starts in with "but sweetheart, I want us to buy a house together" then she is not after your love. She is securing her retirement and pre-buying her boarding tickets on the cock carousel all at your expense. I'm not telling anyone what to do. Just offering a few helpful hints to avoid what so many of my friends went through. Oh, and above all, when it comes to lawyers, retain yours first and spare no expense. Good luck.

      @dochollywood4576@dochollywood45762 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for posting this I am so grateful for talks like these

    @amyswanson1096@amyswanson1096 Жыл бұрын
  • This was actually incredible, I’m always in awe but the way Peterson is articulating himself relentlessly here is extraordinary

    @JESWEATSHIRT@JESWEATSHIRTАй бұрын
  • You could tell by the looks on their faces that they disagreed with Jordan very often, but always gave him all the time he needed to answer. None of the questions were framed in a negative way towards him. Bald guy got the help he needed to divorce his wife. Great interview!

    @brungus9709@brungus97093 жыл бұрын
    • lol

      @rupertkelly4982@rupertkelly49823 жыл бұрын
    • Brungus No many questions are framed in a negative way.

      @owo5869@owo58693 жыл бұрын
    • 鄭茂廷 I guess it’s better to say that they were critical rather than hostile, which is preferable

      @reuben8140@reuben81403 жыл бұрын
    • Bald guy was already divorced before this. He got insight of how he should of done it better

      @astroballs7@astroballs73 жыл бұрын
    • The problem is people have been and are being brainwashed. Forcing "equality" on people isn't about equality, it's about disruption of natural harmony and keeping us bickering among ourselves about bs whilst letting the "elite" destroy us and our offspring.

      @wakeupwakeup7617@wakeupwakeup76173 жыл бұрын
  • This is like watching a world-class chef feed caviar to a baby.

    @DeusExMachina50@DeusExMachina504 жыл бұрын
    • That or he's capable of rational thought and doesn't bend the facts to suit an agenda.

      @TheGalacticEmperorOfLabels@TheGalacticEmperorOfLabels4 жыл бұрын
    • This is one of the best analogies I have ever read

      @TheBonjela100@TheBonjela1004 жыл бұрын
    • I’m going to use that analogy but substitute caviar for a food that’s obviously perfect in taste AND texture.

      @judgedredd31@judgedredd314 жыл бұрын
    • Or a world class chef feeding caviar to a hobo and expecting a well thought review about said caviar. Pardon for the hyperbole.

      @TheBlitzgundam@TheBlitzgundam4 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheGalacticEmperorOfLabels But that's just it isn't it? Lefties and rational thought don't mix together well

      @dp582@dp5824 жыл бұрын
  • One of the best interviews, thank you.

    @dinosaurdude5668@dinosaurdude5668 Жыл бұрын
  • Yes, thank you. I enjoyed the clip because you were not attacking the guest, you were having a conversation and you were listening attentively, you were present, and asking questions. Thank you.

    @thankyou---@thankyou---10 ай бұрын
  • The most admirable thing about Jordan is that he knows how to fully and completely answer these vague, broad questions

    @StevelyBruckShut@StevelyBruckShut4 жыл бұрын
    • @Michael Halligan I would agree lol

      @StevelyBruckShut@StevelyBruckShut4 жыл бұрын
    • Very true.. even the questioner hasn't thought about their question in the depth that Dr P answers it

      @nemishasharma5737@nemishasharma57374 жыл бұрын
    • @@nemishasharma5737 True 💯

      @-rr-4172@-rr-41724 жыл бұрын
    • I love it. I’ve only recently discovered him and he is such a pleasure to watch. I hope he gets well soon

      @nprincess90@nprincess904 жыл бұрын
    • The reality behind that is work. That guy is relatively smart and worked as hell during decades. This is a great example. What he thinks, what is says, is backed up

      @sephgeodynamics9246@sephgeodynamics92464 жыл бұрын
  • Mr. Peterson is way above their reading level.

    @jarheadjunkremoval4548@jarheadjunkremoval45484 жыл бұрын
    • That's a problem because he is expecting us to follow, people like you and me often look up the words we don't understand or even screenshot the quotes that really resonate with us but to people who don't strive for betterment it comes off as condescending and think of him as the guy who uses big words because he's full of shit.

      @joshdunham7167@joshdunham71674 жыл бұрын
    • @@joshdunham7167 well depending on your level of literacy, what hes saying isnt necessarily difficult to follow, you just have to listen carefully. Besides that, i think the biggest problem is his explanations are very accurate but not very concise, for someone who doesnt speak English as a first language it can be hard to follow in that case. I really dont know how to deal with this from Mr. Peterson's position; if he is more concise, they twist his words and force him to explain with more depth, and if he is very careful about his words, he says too much and they dont know how to respond. His examples help, but if im being honest, you cant force someone to listen to you carefully, ESPECIALLY if they think youre wrong. This leads to difficulty communicating because you're left with the question, do they want to hear your answer? or do they just want to hear you parrot what they already believe... I agree that it comes off as condescending though, and for people that arent very emotionally mature, they get defensive almost immediately. I really hate that though, it is so dumb that people get defensive just because the vocabulary he chooses, he wouldn't be forced to be so meticulous in his wording if it weren't for people constantly trying to twist his words and misrepresent him. But i believe at the end of the day because of these videos and the people that truly do decide to listen to him, his message will get out to people it resonates with, like you and I.

      @six_waterbottles6wb129@six_waterbottles6wb1294 жыл бұрын
    • A large majority of my life consisted of literacy so I cant say that I can sympathize with people that don't understand what he says. Literacy is an acquired skill, it's not inherited. Context can help you understand the words that he uses.

      @weenie7746@weenie77464 жыл бұрын
    • @@six_waterbottles6wb129 I don't know where you are from, but in Scandinavia virtually everyone is fluent in English and are familiar with English academic nomenclature. I know this because I am a Dane. Generally people under the age of 35 are nearly as proficient in English as in their native language. Scandinavians are able to understand him perfectly well... If they want to.

      @ricgreve@ricgreve4 жыл бұрын
    • @William Leonard I thought that was one of Duke Nukem's catchphrases.

      @ricgreve@ricgreve4 жыл бұрын
  • How fast he swiches between topics and bombards them with knowledge and proper argument. His intelligence is monumental ❤

    @subhayandas14@subhayandas1410 күн бұрын
  • All these speakers have very pleasant faces. They are open and really listening to each other.

    @pjglory3348@pjglory3348 Жыл бұрын
  • I love how there is no interrupting. Why can’t anyone else at least do this

    @brandonconway3819@brandonconway38193 жыл бұрын
    • Many Scandinavians I have met have shown this kind of politeness. I think it is a cultural thing.

      @buellterrier3596@buellterrier35963 жыл бұрын
    • @@buellterrier3596 It is a cultural thing. We learn it, at least I did, from a young age not to interrupt, else it turns into chaos.

      @andreasaa2000@andreasaa20003 жыл бұрын
    • @@andreasaa2000 And that is one of the reasons why I love Scandinavian people and their culture. I met some of my best friends from there. I hope you never change and stay a good example for the world.

      @buellterrier3596@buellterrier35963 жыл бұрын
    • I agree, Scandanavian people are extremely polite.

      @denasewell@denasewell3 жыл бұрын
    • watch any Indian Debate and you will lose your mind. no kidding, just try

      @steamingsilver@steamingsilver3 жыл бұрын
  • Admitting vulnerability is not the same thing as weakness... That was an amazing point.

    @lildragon6415@lildragon64155 жыл бұрын
    • Sound s good but its plain stupid !

      @jellyrun1@jellyrun15 жыл бұрын
    • :)

      @kylewilliams1090@kylewilliams10905 жыл бұрын
    • @@jellyrun1 *Almost* as stupid as your comment.

      @Gr8Layks@Gr8Layks5 жыл бұрын
    • Yes it is the same..ask anyone who is coming after you, challenging you in a sport or for a job....

      @kuganpillay9948@kuganpillay99485 жыл бұрын
    • It's actually strength.

      @Komnenit@Komnenit5 жыл бұрын
  • God bless Jordan. His respectful arguments and respect for the others show us how to be impressive in presenting ourselves to the world.

    @mikeytoasterface981@mikeytoasterface981 Жыл бұрын
  • Far too often people are unable to translate their thoughts into accurate words of description. Peterson commands the English language like it’s an extension of his brain. It’s simply incredible.

    @Danomite99@Danomite993 ай бұрын
  • Peterson: "Men and women are different" Everyone else: "So you hate women?!

    @dissidentpriest381@dissidentpriest3813 жыл бұрын
    • Also: Peterson: “it’s awesome that all people, men and women, have equal opportunities” Female politician: “I don’t agree with that because I want my daughter to have the same opportunities”

      @charlestruppi7793@charlestruppi77933 жыл бұрын
    • Peterson: You have to deal with problems as they arise Also Peterson: *Eats all the Klonopin*

      @jackcottington9970@jackcottington99703 жыл бұрын
    • @@charlestruppi7793 I think she was aggreeing on that regard

      @PlantBia@PlantBia3 жыл бұрын
    • @@jackcottington9970 It's obvious watching his older videos that he was on Xannies,

      @stehfreejesseah7893@stehfreejesseah78933 жыл бұрын
    • @@stehfreejesseah7893 The best parts of Peterson is always the stuff he chooses to leave out. Like the idea that the just like the wise king is the counterpart to the tyrant, the adaptable citizenry(in the form of a stable democracy) is the counterpart of chaos. And just as order is associated with the masculine and therefore strength; chaos the feminine and therefore care. I really hope that it has occurred to him at this point that the thing he is railing against in the modern world is the thing that he missed in himself. I say that not because I dislike the man, on the contrary, I hope he recovers with inside and is able to help others.

      @jackcottington9970@jackcottington99703 жыл бұрын
  • These guys just indirectly had a therapy session with Peterson. seeking advice

    @Himsdlee@Himsdlee4 жыл бұрын
    • Hims D Lee for sure. I actually felt bad for the bald guy. He was clearly seeking advice for his own personal situation with children and a wife he’s grown apart from. He had a definite look of sadness when Jordan was talking about kids benefiting from having a two parent household.

      @tee4222@tee42224 жыл бұрын
    • @@tee4222 When Jordan said 45, the bald guy seemed distraught

      @TroNPopz209@TroNPopz2094 жыл бұрын
    • He informs all of them and they prefer to hold on to their rather uninformed opinions. It simply strikes them at their core. The coherence in his arguments are astounding.

      @chrisklaeffling1@chrisklaeffling14 жыл бұрын
    • I think he is amazing. I am reading his 12 rules book.

      @terrysd55@terrysd553 жыл бұрын
    • when a feminist crying then another feminist tells her don't cry or Jordan Peterson will and then the feminist died

      @zaroonyakhyakhan4514@zaroonyakhyakhan45143 жыл бұрын
  • This man needs to be guarded and valued by everyone. I look up to this man.

    @jamarmiller@jamarmiller Жыл бұрын
  • What a good interview. Very clear to all participants

    @argentocorazon@argentocorazon8 ай бұрын
  • The bald guy listened to Jordan speak and then realised he needed to divorce his wife

    @illspeak2398@illspeak23982 жыл бұрын
    • It was a free psychological analysis of his marriage and what to tell his children after he hands his wife the papers.

      @DrumDTLTE2@DrumDTLTE22 жыл бұрын
    • yeah it get the vibes from him that he is very personally interested in that case lmao

      @plsdonttttt@plsdonttttt2 жыл бұрын
    • Seriously he asked like multiple questions about it and even when they had moved on from the subject lol

      @brus3460@brus34602 жыл бұрын
    • LOL... so true ! LOL

      @elmono3939@elmono39392 жыл бұрын
    • LOL

      @Piyesis71@Piyesis712 жыл бұрын
  • Look at how civil and quiet these people are while Peterson talks, even though they don't agree.

    @rileymilovich@rileymilovich4 жыл бұрын
    • ryan milovich good point and I agree with you but I also think they are learning not only about him but in general.

      @joesalazar2634@joesalazar26344 жыл бұрын
    • ryan milovich because they don’t have the intellectual capacity too have a realistic debate with Peterson.Its not a good strategy too listen if you not agree, furthermore if it is on camera. If you suggest that is good, a Dialogue from Peterson without that people would be much better

      @Ashlanmilo9814@Ashlanmilo98144 жыл бұрын
    • @@Ashlanmilo9814 I am speaking more on the difference between these people and your typical American.

      @rileymilovich@rileymilovich4 жыл бұрын
    • ryan milovich yes because Americans are taught to be confident no matter what. One guy showed the stats that they rate lower than average in education international ratings, but they are at the top when it comes to confidence.

      @manu144x@manu144x4 жыл бұрын
    • @@rileymilovich That will change. The reason Scandinavian people/Canadian people are considered more polite is because they haven't been infected with multi-culturalism to the degree that America has. Once they get a more diverse nation and the politics center around their differences like America it will be the same.

      @tonyg490@tonyg4904 жыл бұрын
  • there is clear respect on both sides and as such the discussion can happen with both understanding a new viewpoint good to see I am a big fan of Jordan Peterson and having seen your channel and the way he was treated I found the panel and host to be intelligent , polite and interesting Subbed well done! best wishes to all

    @Disinterested1@Disinterested1 Жыл бұрын
  • Refreshing to see the host allowing the guest to speak ! A brilliant interview!

    @thenomadsurvivalist4459@thenomadsurvivalist4459 Жыл бұрын
  • The woman's facial expressions speak volumes. She's not quite sure what to make of him.

    @jeannie1renee2@jeannie1renee24 жыл бұрын
    • Jeannie She is conflicted. She admires him but admitting that could affect her preconceived notion of hating anybody that doesn't think like she does...

      @manu144x@manu144x4 жыл бұрын
    • because she's not taking him and his words at face value, she's trying to find flaws in his point of view and his argument(s)...she's essentially trying to "debunk" him rather than understand him, a fundamental difference that radically changes the ultimate outcome of the interaction.

      @TheBetabox@TheBetabox4 жыл бұрын
    • InherentBias agreed

      @Davey1522@Davey15224 жыл бұрын
    • he has her at 14:58

      @brandonvickery5019@brandonvickery50194 жыл бұрын
    • She disagrees but doesn’t know why. She wants to oppose him because she assumes he’s a right winger.

      @RobRock-qr3hp@RobRock-qr3hp4 жыл бұрын
  • Bald guy is literally just there to squeeze in a free personal psych session from Peterson. And I don’t think any of us could blame him.

    @terminald7064@terminald70643 жыл бұрын
    • So true... he is thinking about his own future. He looks so sad.

      @plmiddleton9203@plmiddleton92033 жыл бұрын
    • you cant just point out the problems and try solve them, people are too irrational, thats not how the world works

      @heinzorse6007@heinzorse60073 жыл бұрын
    • I could say it was better for me to have my mom and dad divorced bc they could not be civil around each other. But it would have been far better if I were not the child of a broken home. I think people have trouble understanding that sometimes things go awfully wrong, but it doesn’t mean we need to advocate for the most drastic solution at the least sign of trouble.

      @vikawinters@vikawinters3 жыл бұрын
    • @@heinzorse6007 that doesn’t mean you give up. It’s a process, that’s what JP has been preaching this whole time.

      @julianowilliams3263@julianowilliams32633 жыл бұрын
    • @@julianowilliams3263 yea man, i was just quoting the bald guy^^

      @heinzorse6007@heinzorse60073 жыл бұрын
  • I feel sorry for Jordan, he gets far to much abuse from people who have only ever heard an out of context sound bite and never taken the time to truly listen to him. The guy is nothing short of a hero!

    @liambirch6333@liambirch6333 Жыл бұрын
  • Brilliant! An honest and truthful person! Thank you!💕🙏🏻❣

    @osharev3375@osharev3375 Жыл бұрын
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