Beginner knife making: Railroad spike clip point Bowie knife
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Hello everyone and welcome to the forge! In today's episode, I show how to forge a Railroad spike bowie knife for a beginner. These make great gifts and fantastic conversation pieces. Thanks for watching and Hit that Subscribe button if you would!
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Just gave this knife to my wife Michelle for our 34th anniversary!
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Gave her the murder weapon 😂
Did I need to know your wife’s name
Your wife seems nice can I have her number?
I have started my business as a blacksmith 4 months ago and all I have been making is rail road spike knives. If I ever need help on making a knife I come to this video. This video tells you everything you need to know. Thanks for sharing.
people buy?
Are you asking if I sell my knives? Because if you are yes I do.
Kitty litter buckets and dry wall mud buckets...the universal containers for work shops everywhere! Great vid!
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When I was a teenager, dad was into forging and we made these knives. We would forge weld a piece of tool steel into the blade so as to make it more useable. Thanks for sharing!
Gotta love the good ol' railradd spike knife, It's the first knife I showed my son how to forge, they make great starter projects, and teach hammer control. I do the same thing on the ones people want to use usually with a piece of 1095, most of the ones like this I sell people just want to give away as a novelty item or a letter opener. Thanks for watching I really appreciate it!
@@Mysticmountainforge Where did you get your tongs if you don't mind sharing?
This video helped me out tremendously
Fantastic! I am glad it helped, I appreciate you watching.
Man I built a my first coal forge and tried it tonight with a rr spike. I swear like one of your blows is 5 of mine. And I'm a 330 lbs dude swinging as hard as I can. Really crazy how you guys make it look so easy. I'm not giving up though :)
Awesome man! I spent most of the time on my first projects beating the anvil up more than actually hitting the steel. Keep hammering and never give up, I have a large box at my forge where I keep failed projects to show to people just getting into the craft, each one is a stepping stone to bigger and better things. thanks for watching, I appreciate it!
@@Mysticmountainforge thanks man. I started a rr spike knife back in high school and I found it looking for scrap steel. I think its good to keep those around. But thank you dude 🙏 I've been welding for 13 years now and love working with steel. Keep teaching your knowledge
tried this after briefly watching some other video's, your video taught me a few steps that the others missed.
That's great! I'm happy to help, I appreciate you watching!
This video really helped me on forging these knives, there is alot of folks who really like these type of knives. Thanks again for making these videos, I enjoy working on these.
I am happy to help out, I am glad you enjoyed the video and that it is helping you on your smithing journey. I greatly appreciate you watching.
Would it be hard to create a viking seax knife using the railroad spike.
It wouldn't be hard at all, you are the second person to ask about a rr spike specific project so I will shoot a video over it, I will do a seax and a tanto as soon as I wrap up my current build.
@@Mysticmountainforge that would be awesome, thanks
Good guidance all ways big help appreciate 😊
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Great job sir,congratulations!!!
Great step by step production for us beginners.
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Nice work man 👍🏻
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Nice detailed explanations 👍
Great little projeck thanks for sharing.
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That's awesome to see we have the same anvil. Thanks for the video!
That's really cool, it's a really good one that's for sure. Thanks for watching, I appreciate it!
Great video!!
Love this stuff
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красивый дизайн = Beautiful design
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Thank you for the information in this video, I'm working on my very first knife right now 1-3-2022 I just put the forge together and now I'm hammering on a railroad spike for my first knife attempt & you do make it look like it's way easier than it really is!
Howd you go? Are you using a proper and good size anvil that's properly mounted and good forging hammer? In my experience it makes a huge difference than trying to use some small piece of steel or iron or sledge hammer head etc, even a rail road track makeshift anvil. Which ends up being so much more work and harder to move steel. Doesn't help develop proper techniques much either. A decent forge than get plenty hot in good time too and course a good proper set of tongs or more is important. Alternatively, you could always go more the stock removal route? This is my own personal preferred methodology most of the time, by far far far! And imho the far superior method, and capable of producing far superior knives and blades. For many reasons including its just better for the steel and doesn't produce all the negative effects that banging on steel with a hammer does. And importantly you're not limited to using just these old-world low alloy simple carbon steels or iron and can take full advantage of all of today's many many truly EXCELLENT high performance, high alloy, high chromium modern martensetic stainless tool and blade steels and the modern processes and technology to bring out every drop of potential from them! Seriously you likely won't hear this from many knifemakers... (largely because simple carbon steels are so cheap, readily available, easy to process and easy to heat treat to a passable state, far more easy on tools and equipment and quicker.... being soft and all... requiring far less knowledge and skill to work with and process and can be banged out easily, cheaply and quickly in a backyard shed with but a hammer, simple forge and anvil... not requiring all the specialised, complicated and expensive equipment or all the knowledge skill and experience necessary to work with modern performance steels! Not to mention people can and do often charge a premium price for cheap carbon steel and what is essentially a sub par steel and finished knife, often made with relatively unskilled labour. Good for knifemakers, bad for customers! In fact to be honest there's awhole lot of myth and downright scam around it all in the totally unregulated knifemaking world. And many have even been convinced that simple carbon steels and forged blades are actually somehow SUPERIOR to properly processed high performance modern stainless blades steels... which is downright silly in reality and if you made this claim in any other metal industry you'd be rightfully laughed out of there! 🤪 Alot of this is also due to mass production of cheap low grade knives using most always the absolute cheapest most crappy bottom of the barrel (barely) stainless steel in existence, with crap processing and heat treats to boot... steel that by rights has no business being used as a blade steel at all! Thus most people have never even used a good stainless steel blade, and after using those crappy mass produced knives then trying a custom simple carbon steel fired blade, it indeed would seem superior, and may actually even cut stiff haha, at least for a little while befire sharpening time, not much. :))) (Worse still in many cases it's caused not only widespread unhygienic practices but downright dangerous ones. Such as the use of rusty carbon steels and even carbon tool steels containing very dangerous alloys in kitchens and restaurants, things that should never be anywhere near food for human consumption!) Not to mention the frustration of spending eons making and producing a beautiful true mirror finish or whatever on a blade onky to look at it sideways and it turns into a pile of dirty brown rust haha! Anyway this is becoming a long rant haha. But maybe consider it anyway? I do believe learning forging is still worthwhile for a good knifemaker though and do do it time to time. Making abit of carbon Damascus or whatever. Also I understand that stock removal can seem more difficult and can require the use of especially a good knifemakers belt grinder and heat treating ovens, cryo etc.... but it too can be started and can produce food high quality knives easily and cheaply using only basic common shed tools. Files, I love files and have hundreds, sandpaper, drill etc etc. No forge even. Just if using good stainless you might have to send it off for a professional heat treat and wait a couple weeks for its return. (BTW I did start this way and learnt on carbon steel furst) Then you build up tools, skill and knowledge as you progress... and as you build a reputation for making and selling top quality knives especially stainless knives with little to no maintenance required, gets more beautiful finishes and stays that way indefinitely, and that are absolutely hair widdling sharp and can be counted on to literally stay that way for YEARS even with very heavy use as opposed to what, days, hours, minutes even with scs! Pretty much the first time you cut anything it's on it's way to dullville haha. As I say, night and day! Test me on that if you dare! 😁 Don't be overwhelmed though just take it slow and master the fundamental skills first as you go. Ps: personally my advice would be NOT to enter looking at knifemaking as some sort of full time career and sole bread winning occupation! There's rarely any good money in it and it is hard, taxing work.... and will then become a job and chore not a pssion!there's much easier more profitable ways to make money believe me, then you can offset that stuff with your knifemaking and stress relief like me haha, plus can afford any gear or steel or whatever that you want. While making abit of profit as bonus and many friends and Newfound satisfied knife enthusiasts!
I like that hammer, it looks like its bit around for awile
Nice job and straight forward instruction. easy to watch.
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Nice gonna try this! Thank you
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Great build
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I've got a few high carbon spikes. This will be my first project. Thanks for the tutorial. I'll watch for you on Forged In Fire, my favorite show!
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Another good video. God Bless
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Очень приятно наблюдать за работой мастера! Прекрасная работа, отличный нож!
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well done and so very true on saftey and carbon content.
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Great. I really enjoyed watching this video, thank you for sharing. stay safe 💕🤝
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Anvils are hard to find. I used a 4 ft section of 12" cast iron sewage pipe, with a cap on it, mounted about 1ft deep in the ground. Vice grips, hammer. I made a railroad spike toothpick. It was so gratifying to shape steel that I just wanted to share it :)
That's awesome man! Once you get hooked it's all over! I appreciate you watching!
Sewer pipes for toothpicks. The anvil scarcity is pushing aspiring blacksmiths to desperate measures. 🤣 Good on you for letting nothing stop you from creating. 👍
Great effort on FIF, brother. Those things can go either way. God bless. I'm getting ready to make a spike knife for a friend, and this helped a lot.
Thanks Man, It was a lot of fun and I got to make 3 new awesome friends. I am glad this video helped out, I appreciate you watching and God Bless you and your family!
I found you through another channel and wanted to come over. My husband loves these. Thanks for explaining about the twist and making the blade.
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Really good Job men very good vídeo !!!!
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Awesome ❤👍
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amazing knife
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That's awesome nice 👍👍👍👍
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Making a knife from a railroad spike. That is some MacGyver type stuff right there. 😆 Pretty cool.
Wow cool video friend. Thank you for sharing
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Love it, really wanna make one sharp one for cutting toddy, a traditional drink from coconut palm we make in Kiribati.
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I love your videos.
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Thanks again.
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I wish I could make one. I would love one of them to own. Great job 😏👍
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I have been waiting a couple of years to do this because all fires are baned. Have all the stuff waiting till winter thank-you
Nice knife.. I only made one RR spike knife but I was like you and the handle was not long enough for my hand. I like how you made that longer by drawing it out. I actually flattened my handle part down thin like the blade so I could put scales on the sides. I left the heel or head of the spike as a pummel. I put my wood in there and shaped it so wood scales were up against the head but was glued and pinned like a regular knife.. Well that is as good as I can make a knife. I am not a knife maker. Nice video.
Thanks! I have always wanted to try and put some wood scales on one, I will have to give that a go, it sounds like it would be a really good seller. Thanks for watching!
awesome video thanks you make everything look so easy , my buddy just gave me a 5 gallon bucket full of railroad spikes must be 200 lbs of them if i get good enough maybe i can sell some of the knives i make from them
That's pretty cool! thanks for watching, I appreciate it!
Found out about these recently. In Sweden, they are called Rallar Knives. I love turning waste into useful things!
That is really cool, I always love hearing other countries names for different things, I have a customer who buys a lot of my knives in Germany. Working with reclaimed materials is one of my favorite things to do. I appreciate you watching!
Great video that’s a cool looking knife!!
Thanks!
Nice. Just getting some equipment set up so I can try forging also. These railroad spike knives are very cool.
Thanks! It's awesome that your getting set up to start forging, it was the best decesion I ever made, i wished I would have done it earlier to be honest.
Yeah I’m looking forward to it. Right now I’m in full on tool hoarding mode.
@@GarageMisadventures Right on, I don't know if you have an anvil yet, but you can get a real good one from www.centaurforge.com It's where I bought mine and it was less than 1/2 the cost of an old wore out one. Mine is a NC tool cavalry anvil and it has held up to everything from minor blacksmithing to full-on swordsmithing.
Mystic Mountain Forge, nice. I’ve just been picking up what I could locally. I got an older Kohlswa, and I’m supposed to meet a guy tomorrow to pick up a 161 lb Hay Budden. May be going about this all wrong, but it’s what I found available nearby.
@@GarageMisadventures That is awesome, I only bought mine because there wasn't any around where I live that people wasn't wanting an arm and a leg for. having a good anvil will make a huge difference in your work.
love your channel awesomeness
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Good luck on fif nice vid
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Heat in a couple big ol' steel Nails near the Edge. They heat in and should add strength and edge retention. Heat, use a chisel make a groove, hammer nails lengthwise, along edge, heat Good, and finish as needed.
Awesome video man just subbed. I'll be watching forged in fire tonight for sure
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Hey New Friend! Congrats on your channel and getting TV exposure! Wow that is awesome!!!
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Outta all my RR spike knives I made I always split the spike and layd a hammered out billit of 5160 or 01 .. and forge welded it like san'mi .. if your gonna make a knife and put all that work in it .. You want it to cut .not once but All the time . Good work BTW .
I normally do the same as well, I had considered doing that for this video but decided to do just a basic video for beginners, I hope to do one forge welding some 1095 into it one of these days. Thanks for watching I appreciate it!
@@Mysticmountainforge Take my word on this .a 10 series carbon steel is ok .but 75-85 -95 Is just to damn brittle . There is no Chrominum Moly exctra .. Dont get me wrong but years back I used 95 . It was like 5160 Cheap really cheap . But cheap = chip .. tri a chip of 5160. In one and 01 in another .. and keep them round use them in testing .for one year .
I will give that a try, I appreciate the advice, I really like working with 5160, and have a lot of it around the forge.
@@Mysticmountainforge When you are ready to learn a Highperformance heat trear method let be know .. its not worth a damn for the chip searies but 5160. O1 52100E . You cannot find a better heat treat method .. Look up shipley made knives Belton Texas. Nukcluar Knives ..
Would quenching it more than once have any effect on the toughness of the blade?
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Just watched you on FIF You did a good job was rooten for ya seen that split was like NOOOO!
Thanks, it was a tough break, thats the truth but it was an awesome experiance and I have 3 more lifelong bladesmith buddies from it now.I do plan on going back! I appreciate you watching!
@@Mysticmountainforge im wantin to get into blacksmithing but nervous lol
looks like a sweet channel, found ya on bloodx. i have an old blade that i lost the handle to. it was deer bone.
Thanks, I bet that would have been an awesome blade, deer handle makes a gorgeous knife, thanks for stopping by!
Nice quick knife good to hear that your going to be on FNF
Thanks! I appreciate you watching! It will be the German Dussage episode, I am the guy in the gray shirt on anvil 1.
If you dont have a belt sander like that, what is another option you can use?
Love the knife. I just picked up a couple spikes from along side the RR. I went to watch you on Forged in Fire. It seems that it's not episode 29 of season 7. It is episode 24. Thought I would share so if someone is looking to watch. Also just subscribed to your channel. 2 thumbs up 👍👍
Thanks for watching I greatly appreciate it! I need to go in and change that so people can find the right one, thanks for the heads up!
Wow nice content brother
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Hey! My son is obsessed with you so I’m trying to find out about this blue light... is it heat resistant and water proof? Do you have a link to the items? I can’t get him enough information about this video fast enough. 🤪
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Hey there, nice demo. I want to ask you if you would do a demo splitting the spike & forging a bit from a rasp for the blade?
I actually have that planned after I wrap up my current sword project. Thanks for watching, I greatly appreciate it!
@@Mysticmountainforge Oh fabulous! I will subscribe & look for it. It will be interesting to see it done because of the 2 difference in steel. It would make really good cost effective knives. Im eager to see the forge welding of the two.
Wonderful video. New friend and subscriber here
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Would Something Like Royal Harding power help the cutting edge of the blade stay sharp longer?
That might be worth trying out, I have read about it some and it seems like it could be viable. Thanks for watching, I appreciate it!
how does hitting it on the horn draw out the blade im still pretty new at this and anything you will tell me helps
By using the round portion of my hammer and the round surface on top of the horn it displaces material in the concentrated areas between where the two come together forcing the material to get longer. Doing this then hammering the edges and repeating it helps increase the length.
If I want my knife to be strong and razor sharp, what is the widest point to make the top of the blade, not the top part? I have always been dying to know haha!!! Also this is amazing :) well done!!!
Thanks! I usually like to go around 5/32 of an inch for the spine on a small knife with a large bevel almost to the spine, as for my cutting edge I like to have it in the ballpark of 0.1 to 0.2mm before putting the final edge on. Thank you for watching, I appreciate it!
@@Mysticmountainforge no thank you ;)
hey cool my dad got acreddited at some school in oklahoma ( we live in canada )
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You're on Etsy from Oklahoma right? Saw your knives. Awesome! Randomly found this video, and it's you! I'm about to get a Devil Forge brand melting furnace for making copper, brass, aluminum, and silver bars. Now I'm looking into trying this. Or doing some trades😉. I'm up here in Kansas.
Thanks for watching, I appreciate it, Yep, I am in Oklahoma for now but will be relocating to Soldotna, Alaska in about 4 months. The champion from the episode of Forged in fire I was on is from Kansas, Emporia I believe, His name is Scott Powers, he is an amazing smith.
@@Mysticmountainforge cool! I'll look him up. I'm about to buy a double burner forge, and a railroad track as well. Can I buy from you directly instead of Etsy getting in the way?
Next one of these you make why not completely prep the surface of the handle with the belt sander first before you twist then all you have to clean off is forge scale and maybe some tiny dings from the tools used to twist it?
Whatup new friend, Ive been wanting to get into forging and smelting. Have a buddy that does blacksmithing at pioneer reenactments.
That is awesome! I have always wanted to go to one of those or a civil war reenactment and check out their setup, it would be awesome! for sure.
whats the best knife grinder/sander for starters?
I would suggest a grizzly 1x30 or 1x42 if you are just starting out and on a limited budget, it's what I used for the first year I made knives. The exact model I owned can be found at: www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-1-x-42-belt-8-disc-combo-sander/h8192 If you have a more substantial budget, I would go with an Ameribrade www.ameribrade.com/2x48-grinder If you can get one with a VFD it makes everything a lot easier. I appreciate you watching.
throw a small bottle of jet dry and some salt into your water... you'll get about 5 points more hardness out of the HC
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@@Mysticmountainforge anytime brother
Interesting are you a metallurgist.
@@improvisedsurvival5967 I'm a 37 year veteran knifemaker... I kinda have to be a metalurgist to some extent to get the best results from my steel
Need to really be cleaning the face of your anvil before hamering on your steel each time you take it out the forge. Great tutorial video for a RR spike knife..!
Thanks for watching, I appreciate it! That is something I am really making an effort to remember to do, I never really thought about it when I first started forging and even up until the past few months but now I try to do it each time.
Do yourself a favor use boiled linseed oil. Protects metal and looks awesome
That's the truth! I do now, this is an older video before I started using it, great tip though I appreciate the feedback and I appreciate you watching!
By any chance is that a hammer made by Alec Steele? Love the work.
I wish it was an Alec Steele or Brian Brazeal forged hammer, I heard they handle awesome, this one was forged in Russia by Rovtar Forge, it was a father's day gift from my wife. Thanks for watching I appreciate it!
What belt sander do you have
What kind of tongs are those? Where'd u buy them? They look perfect for rr spikes
They are called v-bit tongs, they work great for spikes, I bought them from centaurforge.com thanks for watching, I appreciate it!
@@Mysticmountainforge thanks so much!
which camera do you use?
Hey will these knives hold a good edge?
These work well as a novelty item only, something to give as a gift or set on a shelf, to make them into a functioning knife they would need a piece of high carbon steel welded in, I plan on doing a video on it soon.
This is my first time on the channel and the first thing is I'm not a professional but your anvil should be higher or else you could hurt yourself. But that knife is really freaking cool great job.
I appreciate you watching! You are 100 percent right! It is now, this is one of my older videos, I actually am not even living in that state anymore, I am now in Alaska. I had some bad advice given to me on anvil height placement and paid the price, I learned the hard way lol.
As crap man I'm sorry about that best of luck in the future though.
Thanks, everything is going good now, I caught on to it causing me trouble before it got too far out of hand.
Alright thats good and I'm your newest sub. Keep up your great work our craft is a dying one and teach as many people as you can.
How heavy is that thing
I am a beginner blacksmith, I’ve made about four knives but don’t have a forge. If I heat up a knife with an oxy-acetylene torch and quench in diesel fuel what would that do?
Heating it up with a torch would work just fine but I wouldn't use diesel for a quench medium, ideally you would want something like parks 50 which is an oil made for knife making but cooking oil will also work for 10XX and 5160 steels. If you want to do Rr spikes knives water or a brine mixture made with water and some other thing, some say salt some say dish soap works best to harden them as much as possible but even then they won't get hard enough to be used as a serviceable knife. I hope this helps you out, and I appreciate you watching.
How do I know what type of steel I’ve got? Do different steels spark more or less or have different colors when they spark?
what belt grinder are you using?
In the past I used an origin blademaker 2x72, currently I use a Brodbeck ironworks 2x72. Both have a 1.5hp motors and a variable frequency drive. Thanks for watching I appreciate it!
@@Mysticmountainforge love your vids man! whats the price point of them?
Late to the party but, love you videos (pretty sure I subscribed). You do a really good job! You explain well, quickly, and your presentation is just top notch. Will be looking at more of your videos.
Very Good!... #160 🐄🦉🏴☠✝
i’m having trouble making my blows have an impact, im a 5’9 250 dude who’s also a powerlifter and don’t understand why i can barley squish this metal
Do u need to do the twist is it a must do
You do not have to do the twist, some people just leave it square,some wrap it with cord, some flatten it and put wood scales on it, it's completely up to whatever you want to do. Thanks for watching I appreciate it!
@@Mysticmountainforge thank you and you taught me alot in this vid i appreciate it
No problem, glad to help!
Where did you get your hammer from?
Thanks for watching, I appreciate it! My wife bought it for me as a Fathers day gift from Rovtar Forge on Etsy.
About how long did it take you to make this guy?
I’m starting a class and think this would be a good first try
It makes a great beginner project, making one of these is how I got into knife making. Thanks for watching I appreciate it!
Around an hour by hand for the rough forging. Thanks for watching I appreciate it!
What are you called in the Forged in Fire?
Season 7 episode 24 the german dussage. am on the first anvil in the gray shirt. Thanks for watching, i appreciate it!
@@Mysticmountainforge Thanks! I Am only 12 years old and am very interested in forging!
@@Mysticmountainforge Great job on forged in fire! You did good! Team work also! GOOD JOB!! :)
Thats awesome!
Thanks! I'm always about helping a fellow bladesmith/blacksmith!
You're going to be sharpening your bloodpick over and over again, RR spikes are not hard steel. But it is beautiful.
Thanks! I tell everyone that wants one the same thing, the best place for a rr spike that doesn't have a high carbon bit welded in is on a shelf. They sell like crazy, I guess it's for the novelty of it. I appreciate you watching!
Do you sell these
Yes I do, you can find them at www.etsy.com/shop/TheKiamichiCraftsman?ref=seller-platform-mcnav
Rail road spike its a high grade of steel
Definitely not high carbon steel.
can I skip the twist
Railroad spikes do not have much carbon in them and will not stay sharp.
Nope they don't and nope they won't, they do make good practice pieces for beginners though.
I have honestly never have understood why anyone would want a knife made from a railroad spike. They are terrible steel to begin with, they don't hold and edge they don't harden worth a flip and they are really only good for wall hangers. Oh, and they rust like crazy.
Forging practice is what I used them for mainly, the ones I made were for novelty decor. If you can forge a knife shaped object from a RR spike then you can do it with known steel. If you suck at forging and ruin it then your only out a couple of dollars or nothing at all because you found it.