This is Why Roger Federer Did NOT LIKE Djokovic Throughout his Career
2022 ж. 26 Қар.
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The bottom line was, Rafa and Rogers were not expecting Nova to be the kind of player he is today.
Exactly. They couldn't believe there would be a third guy playing at their level and some times at an even higher level.
@@theamazingbrokenman , you know jealousy is something that creeps into us sometimes unknowingly to us. That’s why it’s good to feed our minds with good thoughts about others and ourselves.
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@@theamazingbrokenman I don't think that the attitude of Nadal and Federer would have the same current significance if Djkovic was a Western European. their behavior instinctively obeys the cultural norms known as "supremacy" over Eastern Europeans.
@@rogerkissier Roger Federer knew that Djokovic would become great, he just didn't like his unfairplay mind tricks he uses to play.
Djokovic is super wholesome in the handshakes lmao, felt kind of bad for him in his early years when someone who he clearly respects didn’t like him
Well then Djokovic maybe shouldn’t have acted like a clown (which he still does), then maybe more people would like him
@@initialize21 bro djokovic doesn’t play around “anymore” this was when he was younger but now he’s in his thirties. Besides if he was playing around and stuff he wouldn’t have won all these grand slams
@@initialize21 Adds more flair to this boringass “gentlemens” sport
@@initialize21 Djokovic is the greatest of all time and beats your weak era champ anyday
@@initialize21 8-7 40-15
People were always laughing at Djokovic when he retired matches and calling him out that he was faking it. Fast forward to today, he is the guy who is in the best shape with no chronic injuries that might cut his career short. He is on a good track to have the longest career out of the big three and maybe retiring when he had risks for serious injuries paid off afterall.
None of the big three had chronic injuries keeping them out for extended periods of time in their primes. Novak was and still is the only one to constantly complain about his injuries during tournaments and its a bad look when he still wins and has been doing this his whole career as shown in this video.
@@dylanstudley8445 Nadal never complains, the true professional. Even gracious in defeat, without excuses, when retiring through injury, which has happened in a few Majors. So Nadal has been blighted by injuries over the years, which has compromised his participation in Majors, but he’s kept it reasonably quiet.
people? you mean morons who don't understand sports
@@dylanstudley8445 You are clearly not in touch with any tennis news. Rafa constantly claims he has a CHRONIC foot injury and he is injured every single time he loses. Hell in his last 5 slams he claimed he was injured in 4 (Last year Australian Open when he won, Wimbledon, US Open and now this Australian Open as well). Federer literally ended his career due to injuries that prevented him to be competitive. Now you are jumping on the hate bandwagon again cause of the hamstring injury, but Novak has not complained about injuries for over a season compared to Rafa.
@@pepton21 Hit me up for a lesson, I'll even throw in some free reading comprehension courses so you can actually understand the words I wrote down in my first comment lol.
People are also forgetting that Novak has celiac disease, but earlier in his career he didn't know so he was technically immunocompromised. That's why he was retiring a lot. In 2011 he changed his diet and the rest is history.
Federer didn't know the whole story and he just slandered Djokovic. So Novak Djokovic's dad is right saying Federer is 'not such a good man'.
And it also explains why he doesn’t mess around with vaccines. He knows stuff.
exactly.
He doesn't have celiac disease . Djokovic is a guy who goes to witch doctors or quacks holding a slice of brown bread against his stomach.. Through this laughable quack method they established he had a gluten allergy.. It's all made up bs to hide he's on doping. From the least fit guy on tour without any mental strength to having all these attributes overnights.. One thing can do that and that's doping..
Gluten intolerance, not celiac disease...
Sure, Djokovic against all odds, against 90% of fans on the stands, against press and big tennis names and “gurus”. Would love to see how other guys’ careers would look like under these circumstances. Whatever the feelings, what Novak has done is an amazing sport achievement that makes him one of the mentally strongest athlets forever in sports. That is the only important legacy, not who Roger or others love or hate.
the other guys are lickable
Right
Only? And "who Roger or others love or hate" is not even a legacy, no?
@Vlad I liked Roger's tennis style a lot, but I absolutely agree with you. Novak's mental strength is really impressive. I hope he lasts a few more years.
@Vlad Mark. There is a reason why people don't like Novak. It is not because he wins. It is because he is a bully. I have seen his handshakes with junior players where he drags their arm towards him. Also in Olympics, he threw the racquet and in another instance, he slammed it on the net so forcefully that it shattered into pieces. His game is boring af. He just keeps returning and returning. That is not the spirit of playing tennis. Tennis should be played with class and finesse. He has none. I don't know what legacy you are talking about. He is definitely not a legend.
Federer has built up such a cult of personality for being “classy” that the numerous salty things he has said especially to Novak in his career are never mentioned lol
Well Novak, for 8 years now, is pushing for a second, proper players syndicate, with a main goal, of providing lower ranked ATP players a better tournaments prize money distribution, and reducing the ammount higher ranked players (like himself) recieve, in favour of those lower ranked ones. Roger Federer and Rafa Nadal are strongly against it. If that doesnt clarify who is the classy one amongst them is, nothing ever will.
@@MrExcessum 💕
@@MrExcessum Ok.. but that kind of socialist approach might have stemmed from Djokovic's Yugoslavian empire value system, that's been nurtured by Serbian education. But Fed & Rafa grew up in an absolute capitalist mindset, where winners should take it all. The sports economy must be driven by that philosophy only..
@@subhadeepmandal2221 Jugoslavija was not an empire, but it was socialist, did not work and it blew into the face of people living there, and that included Djokovic family. Novak's father was owner of the small business and growing up in that enviroment is unlikely going to nurture a naive socialist. I believe Novak is spiritual and values all people equally. You can say that by the way he treats fans when they approach him after the games. Also, he struggled in his young years, when he was trying to survive in tennis world and that can give one perspective that other two could miss as they have not experienced it.
@@MrExcessum A lack of sporting class is smashing racquets, smashing balls into stands (or officials), slashing the net with your racquet, etc. There is a clear ranking here: one of the big three never does any of this; one of the big three rarely does this; one of the big three continually does this. The fact that Novak has some valid and principled pursuits off the court is great, but let’s not pretend as if a subjective, unresolved debate about pay scales is in any way a decider of class. You can have class and still disagree with Novak’s point. On the contrary, it’s difficult to say that you can have class while continually smashing racquets and throwing tantrums your entire career.
You forgot to mention, when Federer had more grand slam titles, and there was a goat conversation, he said that gs titles matter the most. Now when Djokovic has more, he changed his narrative, it's not about the numbers. Yet Djokovic won more, with a better percentage, and has a better head to head score.
talk bs all the crap from your fans
You are CORRECT.
Federea is a creep.
Federer won't admit djokovic is the greatest because he likes nadal better. He is only gonna admit if djokovic wins 3 or 4 more slams
So Nadal is better than dijokovic because He leads 11/7 in Grand Slams
In 2010, Roger had 16 grand slams while Novak had only one, this definitely affected the level of respect between them. When Djokovic started winning more slams, Federer knew he was the real deal.
Quite the opposite. When Novak started winning Federer knew his time was up. At first he was horrified of Novak. Afterwards he accepted his fate and started enjoying the moment, because what else can you do, but accept the reality
Fate*
Thank you for sharing - that is an extraordinary statistic. I am a Federer fan but I’m in no doubt Djokovic is the best ever. Apart from the number of wins in important tournaments other than Slams, one of the reasons I believe Djokovic is the best ever is that in the slam finals he won, he had to play either Rafa, Roger or Andy 59% of the time. In contrast Roger only had to play one of the other guys 35% of the time. For Rafa the stat is 40%.
Novak is all time beat.
Vice versa...you should respect your oponent no matter how important he is...a true unclassy way of doing things although I agree that this was Federer view also most probably
I feel like Roger's always been the slightly prideful big brother of the big 3, and rafa was the timid and shy little brother who never wants to take up the big brother's spot light, but Novak is the more unruly little brother who's ambitious and quirky and has full intention on taking big bros crown one day. So Roger was always a bit more competitive with novak as they're both alpha personality so they're bound to clash sometimes. Rafa is fire on the court but water off it, very laid back personality which is why he's on good terms with both Roger and Novak.
@ztonpk i dont think he hates him, he openly admits that he wouldn't wanna see novak in a tournament but that feels more like it came out of respect. They're the biggest rivals in each other's career, and prevented each other from winning probbaly a dozen more slams so of course there'd be some fire there
@@robinsoncruise2228 I mean its not everything in Grand slams tho. I would say Novak accomplished more than Rafa did, but considering amount of injuries he had, its impressive indeed.
@@robinsoncruise2228 not everything is in GS, there are lot of other things. And it is a stretch to say that he outshined them, outclassed them or outtook them.
@@robinsoncruise2228 nadal is the third wheel, always behind the other two in the rankings and achievements. Deal with it peasant
nadal does not like Djokovic.
Novak became more humble by winning. Federer became more humble by losing.
@The BassBaritone. No. Novak is feigning humility. He will never be a humble guy. Its easy to feign calmness when you have the trophy. But in a way I feel sorry for him. His father has made his life revolve around Tennis and success so much, I don't think he will ever snap out of it. He will be his father's stooge all his life.
@@sreethoz Novak is the most humble guy Among them and he is always humble even on defeat. You seems to be a hater that getting into real point. Nadal and Federer both showed their arrogance and cold hand shake when lost. Novak is most genuine among them too.
@@sreethoz the only stooge here is you. Novak is way better player and Human being than other 2 fake personalities.
@Menon_Ji. All your opinion. You probably haven't seen Novak drag the opponent's hands in anger during the handshake. He imitates and ridicules other players. He smashed and threw his racquet during the Olympics. Don't try to waffle. If you like Djok good for you..don't proclaim his saintliness to me. He will never be humble.
@Menon_Ji. Strange. Seems now like you are Novak's stooge doing his bidding in KZhead comments.
I think Federer did not anticipate that Novak will grow so big and dominate him. It is a question of tolerance. So, in the beginning, Federer vent out his frustration on Novak. But later he settled down when he realized that he cannot avoid Novak as the dominant force in tennis.
Roger was 6 years older, he always knew that one day he would struggle to keep up. Lots of players bagged out Novak at the start of his career, Roddick especially. There was a reason why, Novaks etiquette was terrible and hasn't improved much since TBH.
@@steinanderson9849 only a hater says he hasn't improved. Whatever suits you.
Keep in mind that Fed and Djoker played 15 seasons against each other. Djokovic led H2H in 3… Feds last 3
@@Jimboslice1776 From 2011 onwards, Federer never finished a season leading Nole in h2h. H2h is not the deciding factor but you fedfans like to cherry pick the period because he has a losing h2h
bro if he retired a year earlier he would be ahead in h2h
I've always said Roger is an extremely poor sport in losing during his "prime", nothing wrong with competitive hunger and displaying that, but Novak is a great example of removing yourself from the result, showing humility, respect and complimenting the play of others following a loss. Response to adversity really is the grandest look into someone's character.
@TangoAlpha. You clearly didn't see how Djokovic handled his loss at the Olympics. Being cool with defeat is a myth. Defeat breaks everyone. Some react openly, others do behind closed doors. If you watch football, you may have heard about Sir Alex Ferguson. He is known for his hairdryer treatment of his players if they lost a game. The only player I have seen who has calmly walked away after defeat is Pete Sampras. He is a very rare player. But otherwise, almost everyone else throws tantrums one way or another.
@@sreethoz pretty incoherent response and defense from you, and you clearly didn’t watch the post match interviews after his Olympic loss - after losing a chance at a Golden Slam.
@@tangoalpha9955 Nope. Nothing incoherent with what I say. If you saw him throw one racquet on to the stands and smash another one on the net with pieces flying everywhere, you couldn't defend saying that he handled the defeat calmly.
@@sreethoz Novak is known for emotion, which isn't a problem to me whatsoever within the match, and is also one of the most graceful, thoughtful minds post match following whatever result. You have a clear bias, do not try to present it objectively.
@TangoAlpha. He is neither graceful nor thoughtful. You are confusing him for someone like Pete Sampras. Djok goes around making fun of other players, he answers reporters with arrogance when he doesn't like the question. I can't think of many instances when Pete Sampras behaved like that ever. Djok is still a kid controlled by his dad. His victories are not memorable. Having a drive to win is good, but it needs to be with finesse and class. Sampras had that. Djok doesn't. I am not biased. You are. Watch Sampras' speech after losing to Agassi in Aussie Open.
I think it's overblown. They probably don't click in terms of their different personalities, but no doubt real recognizes real and they respect each other as players
Indeed. Media and KZhead content creators need artificial drama to spice up things in order to accumulate views. Players care 10 times less about each other than their fans think. Otherways they would not have time to practice and be champions.
The amount of damage the social media has done to the image of Novak is second to none, they left no stones unturned to tarnish his image, they are still doing it and simultaneously making both Nadal and Federer the good guys of the sports, I guess the perks of born in a wealthy developed nation, the good guys who never questioned the corruption in ATP, the good guys who never cared about the tennis players from lower circuit, the good guys with etiquette on how to behave in front of people, what to say diplomatically that doesn't give a a wrong impression, basically faking one's personality, the good guys who always made sure how to be politically correct all the time. These traits earned them a lot of respect. The one who questioned the authority got hate, got singled out, made a political scapegoat, treated like a villain or prisoner. PS: This world has lost its virtue and corruption is on another level viz. Socially, Economically and Politically.
You have undoubtedly raised some very pertinent points. However, I wouldn't go so far as to say that the other players were just pretending and that everyone else is to blame for Nole's teething problems in the international arena. That would be a bit too simplistic. Good manners are crucial for getting ahead in a society. These are prerequisites that Nole obviously didn't get in his family. He had to acquire them himself and he did it very successfully. In contrast to his very simple-minded and presumably poorly educated father, Novak has developed into a very sophisticated person.
@@jonathanrex no sir, It's easy to behave as a nice person when crowd gives their favorite player cheers and support while discouraging the other and wants every flesh of the opponent, so called good guys quite enjoy it. As a young and naive lad who got disrespected never knew how to react to such rude behavior, hatred coz he never faced it before.The player becomes disgruntled, he lose his momentum, focus and inevitably the match. Novak has lost more match to the crowd than to the opponent but over the years it helped Novak to become more resilient and determined. But, sometimes he burst out his frustration by yelling coz of constant disruption. After all he is human, not a God like Nadal and Federer. For instance, I still remember how in Australian Open last year the crowd behave against Medvedev who was leading by two sets, he faced the wrath of crowd, he got cheered on unforced errors, clapped on double faults, this guy don't even shout or burst in emotions but deep down what's happening inside his mind who knows, eventually lost his focus and momentum shifted to Nadal, crowd has doing this for years for the good guys. After the match, Medvedev was disheartened not because he lost the match to Nadal but to the crowd who desperately wanted him to lose, he apparently considered to leave tennis but I am sure this experience will turn him into a better person and give an idea about this world. Also, I won't blame Novak for his father's action, neither would I blame Nadal's father for his steroid abuse and the muscles he got whilst going bald, or for the time violations he does all the time. Neither I would blame Federer's father for the disrespect he showed to the Novak's family in the crowd, neither I would blame for the ill things he said about Wawrinka. PS: Crowd has every right to support their favorite player but it doesn't give an authority to disrespect the opponent, you never know what they are dealing with and are its repercussions.
@@prash175 You have taken great effort to choose the words of your statements carefully and have obviously spent a lot of time in doing so. Your culture of discussion is not a matter of routine and has to be appreciated. I thank you for that. I also have to agree with you about the influence of the audience. The distribution of sympathies is not always fair and can undoubtedly have a big impact on the course of the game. However, I would not acquit Novak's father the way you do. In my opinion, his public statements, which are reminiscent of war rhetoric, cannot be compared with the private life of Nadal's father. Novak's narcissistic father contributed a lot to the public perception of Novak's image with his appearances and statements. Novak himself is not to blame directly, I agree, but he could have intervened long ago. He clearly did not, as he presumably, wasn't able to resist for family and cultural reasons. Apart from the achievements of Novak himself, there is nothing measurable for which the family has earned respect. Things obviously went better for Federers and Nadals at the beginning of their careers. Their families preferred to stay in the background.
@@prash175 well said 🙌👌👍👏👏 This comment of urs must be brought up and reminded to every1, every now and then.
@@guruk He again became a victim of corporate lobbied political arena, he is banned from all the United States events of this year, may be forever as long as Covid exists as Novak is a huge threat to the American public. Apparently those tournaments are sponsored by Moderna, and Pfizer like huge corporations. Novak should have got jabbed like the good guys against the principle of freedom of choice whilst a vaccinated person is equally prone to infection and q potential transmitting agent, might not die though.
I have always loved how Federer plays. He is a gentleman and very affable. However, I have to say Djokovic really wins my respect for the person that he is, through good times and difficult ones. And he is also a great tennis player and competitor.
Fed is a fake. Very plastic. Yea he is elegant but that’s because he places so much importance on image and his public look
Djokovic is a better player than Federer.
Don't be fooled. Federer is not a gentleman.go see how he behaves when loosing. He is the worst looser and just hides behind the nice guy persona
@@sujaym4122 exactly. See the 2011 USO semifinal press conference as one of many examples.
@angiechen2848 Federer is no gentleman. Federer clearly disrespected Djokovic by doubting his injuries and saying he felt bad about losing to "a guy like that (who gave up)". There's nothing gentlemanly about Federer's behaviour. When he couldn't match Djokovic's game he resorted to attacking his character.
In sports, losing is most difficult part of all, but will show his/her real face of character. Novak has super sportsmanship whenever losing to whoever he played, which earns my highest respect.
He even claps for a wonderful point his opponents scored. He is just criticizing unfair play
Despite his supreme Sportsmanship - who wins the annual Award ? Ha ha political corruption at play yet again !! So transparent
Actually, it showed Nole's ugly side more. Every time he was LOSING he tries every trick in the book to distract his opponent - unnecessary breaks, faking injury & medical time out to disrupt rhythm, argueing with umpire to constantly make his opponent wait, long dribbling on important moments etc. etc. I could go on and on. I wanted Nole to lose every single match till 2010, after 2009 he became more mature but he is inside an arrogant **** and its definitely visible. (Roger is a crybaby when he loses but Nole is spineless trickster who will do ANYTHING to win, no matter how immature, no matter how taboo or how fake.)
@@Dark_VoiceNovak's worshipers will not acknowledge this truth
like him or not djokovic was biggest threat to fed in terms of finals
No nadal beat him in 6 grand slam finals djokovic just 4
@@bsrussiancuz federer wasn't able to get in as many finals, after djokovic became dominant.
@@bsrussian Still, Novak had a significantly higher percentage in finals overall against Roger (14-6) than Rafa (13-10). He deprived him of more titles and was an even bigger pain in the ass in the most important matches.
@@computerexperts903 no dumbass its the oppposite federer started to lose more to oother players when he left this prime
@@jay_kulina i disagree because slams matter more.. nothing else is that impprotantt, particularly since federer said nadal handed him his wrost loss: wimbledon 08, made him cry in 09, and almos pprevented him from winning tthe french oppen.
Federer's demeanor like that should not be as a surprise as when he was young (1998-2001), he exhibited that kind of behavior (even worse).
Federer was always running on talent. Once he met players that could potentially beat him more often (Nadal, Djokovic, Del Potro) he showed other emotions. Famous examples are the ball on the body against Delpo at the Indian Wells final Fed lost, the Grandslam AO final 2011, that he lost from Djoko, the AO final he lost from Nadal when he started crying. Some how he is known as "the gentleman of tennis", but it's easy to do this when your winning, but how do you behave when your loosing?
Facts, you are sharp
Even when losing, Federer behavior was better than Djokovic. Actually even winning his behavior has been bad. Breaking racquets indicate insecurities and any psychologist would say that there is the problem with the man. Now Djokovic fans are acting like a hen after laying an egg in the nest: a lot of noise. Alcaraz lost the semifinal due to an injury, cramps and now suddenly he is the GOAT. Come on at least he admits that he could not call himself the GOAT and I admire him for that. Also could be said that Nadal was out injured 14 times in GS, Federer 10 times and Novak once. Missed 2 GS due to irresponsible behavior related vaccines and COVID-19. From 2005 to 2018 Federer reached 20 GS, Nadal 18 and Djokovic 14. I don’t count 2003-2004 because Nadal and Djokovic were young and not skilled enough. Until 2018 Federer g he and more GS, more final more semifinal and q- final. After his greatest rivals are out injured he gets ahead and Alcaraz gets injured. I call that luck. But he is #3 between them . Nothing to be ashamed.
@@pedromorales167 O really? I remember Fed hitting that Ball in the body of Delpo in the Indian wells finale. Very sporting
@@martenx1384 With Federer happened once unintentionally. With Djokovic is routine. Hitting referees in the back, ball boys and breaking racquets( he has the world record) Federer has been chosen by his peers as an example of what a tennis player should be.
Fed always struggled with his emotions. At one point his dad hit out at coaches who he said were trying to destroy his personality. We can't understand his struggles really.
“In those vital moments, Federer was paying for the years between 2004 and 2007 where he dominated his rivals so much that he never had to play an important game... He was not tested enough then, it was too easy for him, so he did not improve tactically... Nowadays, however, he’s faced with guys like Rafa Nadal and Djokovic, who are the masters in these tactical matters, and he does not play the important points correctly.” - Mats Wilander I think Federer's open animosity for Djokovic stemmed from this very same problem --> he had learned to dominate his opponents and so, it was easy to be classy and magnanimous to the likes of Hewitt, Roddick, an older Agassi, Baghdatis, Gonzalez etc. that he beat well... they weren't a threat... Djokovic though believed he could compete from the get go and even commentators at the time (eg. Canadian Open 2007) spoke about that... and with Djokovic and Nadal having eclipsed a lot of Federer's achievements now, Federer has had to openly accept that he is no longer without peer
When Federer still played, Novak was the black sheep. Nowdays the same ppl who disliked Novak before, is starting to love the guy and realize that he is the goat
He isn’t the GOAT. I have yet to see someone pass Federer’s peak level, AND I say this as a Serbian!
@@initialize21 Well that is your opinion. I am swedish and I grew up watching Borg. Novak is the goat even though I am a huge fan of Federer. Cheers 🍻
@@initialize21 peak Federer was unbeatable. They don't see this.
@@Neuro_6 Lmaoo, I'm both Swedish and Serbian. My parents are Serbian but I have been raised in Sweden my whole life. I respect all 3 of them and many more legends, but imo I think Novak has achieved the most even though 95% of the audience were cheering for the rival.
@@eminakaratas11 Federer was special. His play looks the classiest, his peak is the greatest, and Roger Federer uses his game to play, Novak Djokovic uses anti-game mind tricks on opponents. I mean, it is part of the game, but pure tennis GOAT is Federer and it is quite obvious.
With Nadal, Federer had come to accept that he would always be second best in clay and on odd occasions in other court types. But in Djokovic’s case, Federer could never accept never accept him as his competitor. Hence there was a bit of animosity and jealousy from his side
Federer was always the best on grass, Nadal always the best on Clay, Djokovic always the best on hard courts.
Nole 61 major titles won on every surface 🐐
@Young Young Federer was better on clay, he gave Nadal a bagel on clay.
Nadal leads federer on hard courts/outdoor
He had dominanted the sport like no one else before and only Nadal had upper hands but Nadal's achievement was far behind him. So he was okay with that. But Novak was a bit different. He came from very small country and he probably might had thought that he would fade away in a couple years. But he became GS champion in such a young age and kept behind them not so far . He didn't want another Nadal so he dislike him more and more later. But after 2015, he had accepted Novak as member of their group and respected more.
Federer first complained about Novak giving up easily, shortly after that about Novak not giving up at all!!! 😂😂😂
When you grow up through war, you are humbled by life. Roger grew up with a lot of privileges that Novak did not. In the end, old age and losses have made them earn Mutual respect for each other
OLD AGE??? Going a bit far there, chap, lol.
Check also 2006 Montecarlo first match, at the net Djokovic says something like "it was a pleasure" and Roger just nods at him
Growing up is a long and painful process....And in tennis, ego's are important and yes, easily bruised.
This! We tend to look at these people as great champions, but we always have to remember that in their early 20's, they barely became adults. We watched them grow up and change, not just as tennis players, but as people, too. I'm 38 now, and when I go back to some old forums and read through my posts from 2005. or 2006, I cringe most of the time. Back then, in my twenty-somethings, I was self-absorbed and even rude and I was saying stuff that I wouldn't say now. :)
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When Novak retires he will have most wins on record and rightly so he's beaten the best of the best of his era and his never give up attitude will make him the GOAT
This video is not about being a GOAT...it's about Novak being an asshat, which is fact.
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roger's whole ego seemed to be about being the outright greatest in tennis and he was up until 2009. When Rafa again defeated him at 2009 oz open and he cried saying "It's killing me", he was finally realising maybe he wasn't greatest ever given rafas tendency to out play him in slams. Similarly Djokovic made him more genuinely humble by being even better against Roger's arch nemesis Rafa .. I think he also began to realise these guys in a very special way made him even greater too, and that it was not just his own magic but the whole context of that era which shined so bright. The whole was much more than the sum of their individual tennis contributions, it's almost a miracle to see 3 so different but equally great players all playing such uniquely memorable and inseparable roles....
Federer has no 'ego'... Djokovic is still unbearably arrogance, nasty, disingenuous......
@@seasidestudios hmm go back to your cave.
@@seasidestudios lol every human has an ego...
@@dadosrbski160 ego... 'a person's sense of self-esteem or self-importance'.... no, not everyone Dado, me for instance, I ain't got a scrap of ego 🤦🏼♀️😂
@@seasidestudios "federer has no 'ego' and also about djokovic" this is also your ego who is judging them. Watch some videos of eckhart tolle, he explain really well the "ego"
I'm not a Djokovic fan, but your video is spot on. I have always appreciated many things about Djokovic though, he never left any stone unturned in his pursuit for greatness and has always been a gracious loser no matter what else. I do wish others had understood his health issues in the beginning of his career but it's not something he could have talked about since it would only be construed as excuses. I like Djokovic's response about his father. No matter their sacrifices, it doesn't give him the right to trash talk Federer and Nadal. Great video. Really appreciated it and also subscribed. 👍
If I was a dad and some competitor treated my son as poorly as Federer, I would trash talk him to oblivion. Federer deserves every bit of ire for accusing Djokovic of 'giving up' early in his career when he was having health issues. Such a breathtakingly disrespectful comment towards a young up-and-coming player. Do you EVER hear Novak talk this way about ANYONE?
@@SerbAtheist No, but did Nadal ever talk about Novak this way? Never. And yet that didn't stop his father from trash talking him during the 2012 FO rain delay with utter stinking bull 💩. Sorry, the door swings both ways. Have Nadal's or Federer's parents ever trash talked Djokovic? Never. So I don't care about Novak's dad. His behavior has been utter garbage at times. Sorry. In contrast Nadal's and federers parents are class acts. I'm not talking about Roger. I don't like some of his behavior. So I disagree with you about Nadal. Federer and Roddick, yes. Fair game.
Novak was never a gracious looser lol…
@@RisingPhoenixNK Actually, he has been more often than not. One recent exception was the 2022 RG QF with Rafa. His handshake was a bit cold. Was it because of what happened in Australia in 2022 or was it because he was expected to defeat Rafa (yes, he was being portrayed as the favorite in light of 2021 and similar night conditions)? One can't say for sure, but if you watch the 2019 RG semi vs thiem or 2016 USO final vs wawrinka you will see the difference.
@@RisingPhoenixNK Nonsense ! Novak is the Most Gracious Looser of them all. Watch his talking and congratulations to the player who beat him in the after play interview !
Through the course of career, I've never heard Djokovic said a single bad or inconvenient word against Federer. Same goes against Kyrgios. But he was not so much liked by these two
Kyrgios is a sick thug. A woman beater. A GF beater. He's a warped individual who'll NEVER win a Slam. But he has tons of fans. That is human nature. Humans are attracted to thugs and villains and sickos.
I NEVER EVER CARED FOR FEDERERRR. HE IS MEAN MINDED ESPECIALLY AGAINST NOLE. SEE HOW HE SHAKE HIS HAND WITH NOLE, WHEN HE LOSES, VERY COLD. THANK GOD HE IS GONE.
nah. got his dad to do it for him. mid match and post match.
And now he is liked by both, a letebd
Can you hear yourselves. In the defence continuously. Nobody and I mean nobody will have the respect That Federer and Rafael. They earned it. Novak is a tennis player not some kind of Hero. He plays for a lot of money. And he will win under any circumstances. You can talk all you like but his aragonce will never change. That's the difference.
Fuimos privilegiados enesta época, tuvimos los mas grandes tenistas en la historia compitiendo y disfrutando las épicas batallas, todos unos caballeros dentro y fuera de la cancha... Tanto en mujeres como hombres.... Roger, Nadal, Djockovic, Sampras, Del Potro, Murray, Mujeres Las Williams, Seles, Hinguis, Clijsters, Henin, Osaka en fin todos todos excelentes tenistas y los tuvimos en una sola era... Gracia TENIS....
Great video man! Definitely a hot topic and will be part of the GOAT debate for ages to come. The 3 of them are so unique and makes for great drama. I for one think Djokovic is a great soul and terribly misjudged.
At the end of it all, Djokovic has let his racquet speak for him. A true fighter and all time great going by his on court achievement.
People forget how high up in his ass was Roger 10-15 years ago when everyone viewed him as a tennis god and showered him with praises. He always came out as arrogant to me, not the gentleman persona he and his marketing team are pushing for decades now. It's nice that Rafa and Novak humbled him, I like him much more now honestly.
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Rafa and Roger are walking PRs. Djokovic feels like a real person
@@hiyoryan3901 completely agree
It’s nothing more than your feelings tho
I'm a huge Nadal-Federer fan, but it's getting harder and harder to question that Djokovic will go down in history as the best of his era. Timing is important, sure, and so is the fact that Nadal has been injury-prone much of his career. Djokovic is the youngest of the three, but not by much compared to Nadal! It's the injuries - which are a combination of genes, luck, and playing style - that have made the difference in the last few years. But that's just part of the game. It's inherent to Djokovic's genius that he has managed to stay healthy by playing clean, efficient, solid tennis, using his body wisely. Nadal simply played his heart and body out. I fear for the next generation, like Alcaraz, who injure themselves while trying to lift their game up to Djokovic's level. Ah, well. I will always be loyal to Federer and Nadal, but tip my hat to the GOAT: Djokovic.
Michael why can't people select the candidate they think has contributed most to the game of tennis ? In my opinion the statistics only tell part of the story and I am not inclined to rely on them.
I loved watching federer, I loved wathing Nadal and now I love watching novak. I lean towards novak because of the statistcs in his favor, his unreal dedication (with his training, his diet etc). I was amazed that he beat young 20yr old Alcaraz in that epic cincinatti final and now Medvedev for his 24th slam. The debate for the goat will never stop, thats for sure, but I beleive that there arent many more years that he will play (hopeflly nadal can play in a high level next year), so in the end, I really hope that people can enjoy these last moments of a great champion, instead of having so much hate.
@@jeanmarshfan Or overusing doping....
Tennis is pretty similar to boxing. In boxing, if you are smart enough and have a good technic, strength and talent, you will save your head from injuries. If you go to the fight right with your head, open guard, just to punch the opponent, your brain will be destroyed. The same is in tennis: not every ball can be reached and returned back. It can, but the price will be paid: you will lose your legs, knees, stomach, ... Federer is a good example of when should run for the ball, and when to just let it go.
Who cares about injuries, genes, timing.likability….. Numbers are everything! Novak is absolutely No 1 not only in tennis but in all sports! Period!
Finally someone making honest video about their relationship. Federer was always butthurt in the past when he started losing to Djokovic and you could easily tell (unless you were Djokovic hater) that he was not liking him.
uhhhh...what about Nadal who kept beating Federer ?
Djokovic is one who always gives wom hug and be nice to everyone who plays against him!!!
Well said.
And that is something the Novak haters always conveniently forget !
Novak mental strength is incredible. Every final the crowd and press is against him but he keeps adding more Grand Slams. He just tied Nadal and seeing both condition at the moment, I'm positive Djokovic will end up with more.
You might want to look up what abismal (spelt abysmal) means 🙄🙄
@@jaynechinogurei3026 edited, thanksx
His drive comes from being a narcissist who needs to be best and special to feel good about himself . That’s why he retired so much when he was being outplayed and threw huge tantrums .
Number 23 and GOAT
@@RisingPhoenixNK Did Federer and Nadal need to be the best? Yes, that is how they are built.
Great analysis, you picked out all the key/prickly moments over their career and Federer softening towards Djoko during latter part of his career as his respect for Djokovic and his achievements grew
Federer has been getting Sportmanship award for 10+ years.... watching this you realize what a big sham it was, Federer was never close to being a sport when he lost to Novak.
LOL Federer never faked an injury or retired from a match. Djokovic on the other hand…
@@initialize21 There weren't Djokovic invented 'allergies', he was an untreated coeliac (reason why he retired so much, and it's documented), disease which brings a lot of physical, breathing and extreme fatigue problems when you consume products with gluten. So those weren't retirements by Novak just because of wanting so, or because of being a 'sore loser', but to preserve his body and physical health instead.
You put 2 magnets plus plus and they repel each other... NOVAK survived and won in 15 year long battle and become ultimate EMPEROR and tennis GOAT...
Lol. Funny
GOATOVIC 😁🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸
@@harishnair5060 Do you have habit of looking at mirror immediately after reading a comment?
@@harishnair5060 23>20
Thanks for great video. They still have so much yet to offer to the world of tennis. Wish them both good health and enjoyable well deserved retirement days (once all 3 retire).
Im from Serbia, and i can say that the best 3 best players in the world, Rafa, Nole, Roger are very humble people and all of them are the perfect idols for young players, i also beleve that all the little dirty words are normal part of every sport, what is important is that in the end of the day they all respect each other
Thank you for the video. I think all three of them are great guys. The video gives a good perspective on why Federer may have looked like sour grapes against Djokovic throughout his career. I think Federer was too proud . And that cost him a lot. He wasn't progressing at the level he should have been to stay competitive against these guys. In 2017, he made a comeback looking stronger than ever but it was a little late.
Yeah and djokovic wasn’t playing so no wonder he made a comeback and finally one a couple more slams😭
@@samuelbrown4764 Exactly. Federer won 3 GS at that period when Novak was nursing his elbow injury. Novak was federer’s biggest nightmare on all surfaces.
@@PraveenKumar-vp4sn lol…fed has more variation…more versatile…more adaptive…beast on fast surfaces….you can’t tell djokovic is master of all surfaces bcz every court speed is basically the same…fed was serve and volley player in 2004…who later transitioned his game to aggressive baseline….while Novak is grinder…his tennis is more like cautious play style not brave…repeating every shot till opponents makes mistake…beast of a athlete but not greatest tennis player…
@@bandhurajbaral2675 😂😂😂.This is the problem wiith Fetards.You see the improvement only in federer. Just like federer Novak also improved his game. He started as a grinder. After working with Becker he learnt serve & volley. Afrer working with goran he improved his serrve. Novak has a complete game for all surfaces. He finds solutions during the match in GS even if he is 2 sets down & win the match due to his all round game. All big 3 evolved & adapted their game over a period of time. Unfortunately fetards think world revolves around federer & only federer has improved😂😂😂😂
@@bandhurajbaral2675 Watch the youtube video of federer where he says that Novak finds different ways to win the match. Novak improved his game so much that he is almost the most complete player now. He can grind, He can do serve & volley, he can attack, he can defend etc. novak will change strategy according to the opponent. He is the most complete player in the last 5 years.
Their rivalry was always very spicy, but then they got older and became more diplomatic and mature. And I think when Djokovic got stronger, Roger grew respect for him in proportion. I cannot wait for something like this to happen; when Djokovic retires sometime in the future and they both become tennis commentators at Grand Slams alongside each other, like Koenig and Goodall at smaller events. Now that is a powerhouse commentary team in the commentary booth right there. Chuck Jim Courier in there as the 3rd commentator and that'll take it to the next level.
roger couldnt control his huge ego in his youth ... this two had very different upbringing visibly ... novak is tough but sober ... his parents are tough and bullish ... his father is mad egoistic moron ... roger's family everyone is nice but nervous ... they are always worried if the match situation is even ... his father, mother, mirka everyone is so goddamn nervous ... roger was too but less than them ...
Now that is funny. But, you know what? I just can't see it. That's why it got such a laugh out of me.
Novak was far behind the big two until Roger got old and nadal injured. First then did the joke catch them
@@pal_lokomotivet2679 before making such a stupid statement better look at the statistics and prove your self wrong and malicious! People like you will avouch that Novak is not a GOAT even when he will surpass Nadal in number of GS! However the biggest irony of FNDJ tennis era is that Djokovic was never even a contender for The best fair player ( not most likable), not to mention that Djokovic well deserved that trophy!
@@makevic Rafa and Novak is almost the same age. Still a few years ago it was only Rafa and Roger that was far ahead of Novak. Rafa was a much better player but he got injured. When Roger got old and Rafa injured Novak catch them. This is a fact. Novak got the easy backdoor way to top three. And Novak was not liked because he had huge issues controlling his mood. That is his own fault
Great Video! There hasn't always been proper conduct and sportsmanship from Federer's side. However, I am glad that both of them still managed to grow close.
I feel like something almost everyone overlooks when discussing the greatest of all time debate is when a player achieved the majority of their slams. There is no debate that the early twenties is prime tennis playing age, whereas a noticeable drop off does happen after reaching 27. You can't argue against this. Even if you eliminate the one-slam wonders, do you know how many multi-slam winners started winning slams before their 21'st birthday? A lot! You've got Borg, Becker, Nadal, Sampras, Hewit, Edberg, Willander, McEnroe, Safin, Courier, Djokovic, Alcaraz, and I know I'm missing others. Do you know how many multi-slam winners won their first slam after reaching 27? ONE. One player in the history of tennis. That's because the prime of a tennis player's career does not happen as they grow older. I think we've been conditioned to think this is possible because of how successful the big 3 were in their late careers, but that certainly doesn't mean they were playing higher quality tennis than in their early twenties. It just means the next era of young players who were in their prime just weren't good enough. But please don't fool yourself into believing Djokovic somehow magically became a better tennis player as his body aged. Like this can't even be argued. Just look at all the great tennis players in history. Federer won the majority of his slams before turning 27. Nadal won the majority of his slams before turning 27. Sampras won the majority of his slams before turning 27. Borg won all of his slams before turning 25. Connors won the majority of his slams before turning 27. Lendl won the majority of his slams before turning 28. Wilander won all of his slams before turning 25. McEnroe won all of his slams before turning 27. Edberg won all of his slams before turning 27. Courier won all of his slams before turning 24. Becker won the majority of his slams before turning 25. Now tell me, what multi-slam winner has won the majority of their slams after turning 27? 3 of them: Agassi, Djokovic and Wawrinka. And they all have something in common. They had to play the long game and wait until their greatest rival (or rivals) were out of their prime tennis playing age in order to finally rack up the majority of their own slams. Agassi went from 3 slams to 8 once Sampras was past his prime (27+) Wawrinka had to wait until Nadal, Federer and Djokovic were past their primes to start winning his slams (you could argue Djokovic was still in prime when Wawrinka won his first but all the big 3 were outside of the tennis prime window when Wawrinka won the other 2. And Djokovic went from 6 slams to 24 once both Nadal and Federer exited their prime playing days (after they turned 27). 6 to 24, wow that's such a telling bit of information. And explains the recency bias that exists in Novak fans who either didn't witness his prime years when he was playing second fiddle to both Nadal and Federer, or they simply refuse to acknowledge any meaning to it.
This is exactly right
Being able to google doesn’t make you smart! Just the opposite! Go get help!
Never liked Federer's personality, giving no respect to some of the tennis players where on the other side Djokovic never said anything controversial about anyone, except for Kirgios when Novak said that He doesn't respect him of the court but I feel like that was completely justified, on the other hand, He went as far and defended some of the players like for example Tsitsipas when everyone were accusing Him for taking "long breaks" between sets. In the end, all those things don't matter, what matters are the results they achieved during their careers, and Federer has a lot to be respected for, there is no question about that, but Novak is the GOAT!
Pls specify which tennis players Federer did not respect ?? Apart from the 2009 AO QF press conference and 2011 US SF press conference...
Goat tho
What a load of rubbish djokovic is false
Thank you. Well said. Very accurate.
Why are you all putting other great tennis players down. Is it to make Novak more if a human being. If it is it's not working.
That U.S. open 2010 semifinals was beginning of federer's nickname 40-15... federer better never said " lucky shots " 😂😂😂😂
2011 right?
@@mrpog5620 it's even worse because it's already the second time in this federer 40-15 trilogy that he slipped to 40 - 15 😂😂😂
Huge Federer fan here. I rewatched the 2019 final for the first time. Novak played those matched points against him incredible well, nothing lucky about it. Deep returns and amazing forehands.
@@trumpameri1638 Oh lol
@@520LUNNY 👍👍👍
Seeing Rafa, Nadal and Nole fighting for titles was amazing. They gave us great tennis through all these years. What I found beautiful in their rivalry is the fact that they all had completely different personalities and they stayed true to them, always respecting each other at the end. I hope to see a movie that will capture the rivalry between the three legends!
You mentioned Nadal twice lol
@Yanu Yanuar lol I meant Roger! Thanks!
@GrumpyMonkey$U How can you say "always respecting each other at the end"? Federer clearly disrespected Djokovic by doubting his injuries and saying he felt bad about losing to "a guy like that (who gave up)". There's nothing beautiful about Federer's behaviour. When he couldn't match Djokovic's game he resorted to attacking his character.
All is well when it ends well. As a big Nole fan I can say that I love Roger for what he did for tennis. Same goes for Rafa.
Federer+NovaK+Nadal together clinched 67 Grandslams in total. What an era for Tennis? I don't think there will ever be another time like this again. I feel I'm so lucky to watch all 3 of them. I'm a fan of the 3 legends
Federer didn't know how to handle being called "The GOAT", loved and venerated everywhere in the world, yet losing more often than not against Nadal, and more importantly against Djokovic, whom the crowds were always against but Djokovic almost always found the improbable inner strength and physical talent to beat Fed. And the last 3 years have proven just how courageous Djokovic is to stand his own ground while Federer has shown to be a man of the system.
bullseye
Mentally physically emotionally Novak is STRONGER THAN Federer
@@XYZXYZ-me7ul Absof'ginlutely
Federer lead the H2H against Djokovic til he was friggin 35. Good for Nole Federer was his only legitimate competition despite the age from 2014 to 15 (and til 2019 on grass).
@@monkeonthee Federer beat Djokovic 4 out of 5 times they met in the majors up to 2009 when Federer was 28. From 2010 to present, Djokovic beat Federer 10 out of 12 times in majors. Djokovic is a far superior player in every level to Federer, and he did it with the crowd always against him.
Well written and edited, with a great summing up, which is worthy of two great champs. Thanks.
Surely You mean THREE Great Champs !
Djokovic went through much difficult path of tennis in their carriers, and came out every time stronger than before. That's why he will become GOAT if he able to find strength to play few more years.
He's already the GOAT - check out all 3 players records.
Great video.... I'm a tennis fan. It don't matter who wins because tennis wins.
I always feel Novak is very courteous to all his opponents , unfortunately Federer I feel is not
Very true.
True
Absolute rubbish
Fair and balanced narration by you…great journalism on your part.
It must be hard for Rodger and Rafa to accept that Nole is breaking all their records and stay as the best tennis player in history 🎾🎾🎾
biggest winner maybe, but Roger is tennis
@@steinanderson9849 was tennis
@@steinanderson9849 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Federer and Nadal are history of tennis, but Djoković is the Legend of tennis 🎾🇷🇸🤣🇷🇸
@@steinanderson9849 roger is a girly boy, Novak is an alpha male.
@@jonathanstirling7167 absolutely
I really didnt like rogers behavior towards novak in start its so heart breaking from federer i always thought big 3 should be like 3 friends but u can see when djokovic started dominating him the respect came too I always see Djokovic being the most humble out of big 3 but djokovic always respected other two like his idols i never heard a single disrescpectful word from novak and its good too see these three one last time together like brothers 🥲
Federer and Nadal are mostly indoctrinated by media and people around them. They must say and behave politically correct. There is nasty discrimination in tennis community against players from eastern europe. Did you see all the 11 nominees for this years ATP sportsmanship award are from NATO countries. Reilly Opelka said tennis journalists are the worst among all sports.
this is why we dont bring history up to discredit a man's behaviour. people take time to grow. no one is born flawless and perfect, especially if you're a girl. im novak fan even though roger brought me into tennis. its amazing to have the big 3 in the sport and inspiring me and my tennis friends.
Out of curiosity why especially if you're a girl?
@@awesomeairplanememes I just wanted to point out to them, that it is ok to make mistakes and be full of flaws, because nobody should fault or discredit them from the moment they were born. Sry this is not tennis related.
@@helloeveryone0123 🤔 that's the same with men too though no?
I've had always problems understanding Federer's bias regarding Djokovic. Federer has had the nicest style of tennis I've ever seen. He had a splendid, unique and extremely efficient one handed backhand. Yet, Djokovic won more games against him head to head, specially in the finals. When technically, strategically and tactically one is as good or better than you, there is a good "chance" that you may loose. Maybe this was the cause of his bias. A hidden anger and jealousy because he couldn't do more against Djokovic. Anyway, these 22 grand slams for Nadal and Djokovic (who knows maybe more in the future) against 20 of Federer's, I find them unfair. Yet, reality is never fair with us. Isn't it ? If ever there will be a commemoration of the 3, I would pack them together because they are inseparable. They are the expression of a unique and grandiose period of the tennis world. They are the 3 musketeers of the tennis.
Indeed those three are ALL legends !
It took much longer for Roger to accept Novak as an equal than it took for Rafa… Maybe it was “how” Rafa began to eclipse him after the Wimbledon masterpiece, and he saw Rafa begin to break away? When he cried after the Australian Open loss, one can sense that he was going to have to let it go because Rafa had his number. Novak was able to achieve something neither Roger or Rafa didn’t have to- winning with crowds rooting against him… This is a remarkable feat, and will never be duplicated!
@Alonzo Bishop. That is because he played to appease his father. The crowd was never a factor for him. I agree that crowds are not always kind. But in some instances , they are not wrong. Djok is arrogant. His victories are not an excuse to ignore that. He may have won many times. But that makes no difference. He was a bully on and off court. And unless you were at the receiving end of it, you wouldn't know.
@@sreethoz would appreciate any examples of “on” or off court bullying. As far as arrogance, I’m not sure what your criteria is? He has always impressed me as humble upon winning as well as losing… I’m sure there are many things you “know” more than I do, but please for the sake of my continuing education, indulge me…
@@alonzobishop3671 Type "Top 5 Reasons people HATE Djokovic!!" in KZhead search and enjoy the "indulgence".
@Alonzo Bishop Type "Top 5 Reasons people HATE Djokovic!!" in KZhead search and enjoy the "indulgence"..
@@sreethoz If your interest in tennis can be reduced to KZhead videos, I understand… Regardless, Novak will continue to make history. I might suggest watching more tennis and appreciating the magic these men and women create? Good luck… 🙏🏻
Federer and Djokovic have one thing in common: They are both great human beings. As the natural competitive tension between then has eased since Roger retired, they have become closer. But if you're Roger, it's still got to eat at you that you lost two U.S. open semifinals and a Wimbledon final against Novak when you had match points. And if you'd won these matches, you might still be in the GOAT conversation.
TBH Fed won't be out of the GOAT conversation no matter what ... He's had a huge impact and even more fans. Personally I'm both Nole and Fed fan , but N>F IMO as things stand
Exactcly best comment ever. They are wayy better than nadal
djokovic sucks.
@@a8aCOLPLAYa8a Hahaha! Dumb
@Young Young Man, she almost died! I doubt shes recovered yet from the vicious attack.
Federer was a bit cocky in his prime, and Novak was as well as a teenager. Novak and his family were very upfront and kind of obnoxious (his father still is) and that didn't match well with Federer's ego. Besides, Federer was beaten by other young players in his prime: Nadal, Murray and Gasquet for example. He was never cold and distant towards them.
He was towards Nadal. He even admitted in one interview that he didn’t like him in the beginning It’s ego. Novak is the most chill. We see that when he loses big matches and how chill he accepts it and congratulates it. Roger is God of tennis so people are afraid to call him out for being a d bag. Tbf he has gotten better in last 6-8 years but he was super arrogant before imho
@@tradingmetamorphosis7197 exactly
Roger never said he didn't like rafa?😂
@@tradingmetamorphosis7197 kzhead.info/sun/YLedlsygkHypfXA/bejne.html Please watch this interview where most of the novaktards was not aware of... He lost in straight sets to rafa but says he was in control of the match and everything was dependent on him😂😂😂... This interview is way worse than the so called 2011 uso interview
@@hello-mv6yg kzhead.info/sun/YLedlsygkHypfXA/bejne.html Watch this interview by your novak and see how gracious he was in his straight set defeat😂😂😂😂😂... Sometimes novaktards forget old things and wanted to concentrate only on roger... So this video is for all my beloved novaktards
good work . well explained and with a surprise happy ending that was good for the soul watching the retire of fed with djocko at his side in a genuine respect
Great video with a great message.
Federer also complained loudly about Nadal about injury time at the Australian Open 2014
Tbf Federer was always a bit cold after a loss earlier in his career. Not only when playing against Djokovic.
An excellent assessment. Whatever tensions exist between these two great players, ultimately their respect for each other's brilliance trumps petty likes or dislikes.
I enjoyed the video. THX!
somebody below said and I had to repeat "Djokovic believes in himself & Federer likes himself."
There was 1 more thing i remember,it happend after Djokovic won his first Grand Slam.Jurnalist asked Roger about Novak,how he see him, because he is young and won grand slam,and Roger answered something like this:"Who is he,why u asking me about him,he only have 1 grand slam,its nothing spectacular.This is why i cheer for Novak to take more slams then Roger.Similar when Novak had elbow injury and he was angry at matches and shoot balls with rage everywhere,when jurnalist asked him what will happend if u hit someone,u could get disfalificated,and he sad:"When i hit someone ask me that",thats why i wasnt mad when he was disfalificated from US,even if he didnt do it on purpose that time.And also about that luck DJokovic had at US open,he saw latter if it was luck or not,at end they never liked each other. Roger probably didnt like him in big 3,because he didnt deserve it to be there with him and Nadal.
Djoković absolutely deserved to be there. No one can deny Novak now. People maybe don't want to accept the reality that Novak is the best in this big 3 debate, and ok, you don't have to accept it. But you do need to respect what Novak has done in terms of sports achievments and accept the fact that he is at that level. He deserves everything he got.
@@80destry Also, when all is said and done, Novak will be remembered as the greatest. Aesthetics are remembered only by the generation which witnesses it and may be one or two generations later, but numbers are remembered till the time sports exists. Novaks numbers are already better than Federers in almost all major parameters. Yes Federer has more titles, but Novak practically does not play in 250s and 500s from where Federer has created his lead. So, if anybody considers Novak in the league of greatest or not is immaterial, since he is the greatest. Even amongst the 'Big 3' he has already created a legacy that will be difficult to match by the other 2. Rafa is unique in this sense since he has created an unmatched legacy on Clay. He will always be in conversation for the GOAT, but his being the GOAT on clay is indisputable which is not the case for other 2, for the remaining surfaces.
Both of them are the reason why I didn't give up tennis. Used to be terrible at it. Watching them making me love tennis more. Playing better until now
Djokovic is too intelligent. Jealousy by others is natural! Just listen to his speech after the final in Wimbledon 2022. Stan Wawrinka disliked Mirka F. Also because she was loud during Stan-Roger match. So, things happen. We should not try to blame only Djokovic.
Yes nothing on Roger.
It's great seeing that Fed and Djoker later found common ground to respect one another 👏 👍
Roger choked so many times vs nole he started to hate him
Calling that return a 'lucky shot' - even back then he was known for being an exceptional returner.. that wasn't luck. He knows that and I think he never got over that 2011 us open semi... that had to be all he was thinking about wimbledon 2019 final. Two of the biggest chokes of all time on his racquet.
@@mambi74 yea. I love roger. But he choked so hard he nevrr could get over it
I personally feel fed and nole's rivalry was peak during 2011and 2012 where fed said "it's too early they say these things and let's see after 6 months" when asked about passing the torch to the younger generation after nole owned him during 2011 AO SF. Then the next gs ie. FO was history and the same happened during 2012 FO when fed was asked about his age and decline and almost was written off after FO SF 2012 and the Wimbledon 2012 was history. I feel after 2013 the level of nole was too good and it was only fed and Murray who were able to challenge him on hard and grass courts and during 2015 it was like nole and others and after that even fed knew that nole should be respected and he did it like others and after Cincinnati final 2018 it was clearly evident that he respected him and was seen amused during his points, worst mid 2018 season made Roger understand that he is also a human after a great 2017 season and he was fine and mature like nole always was.
The unexpected blooming of Federer & Nadal during 2017-18 was due to Novak's injury. When he was completely fit and in for, for many years Nadal and Roger couln't win slams regularly.. exception to Nadal is FO and Federer was left empty handed for the whole years many times
@@seethakowsalya8144 but fed had his chance @ us open 2014 and Wimbledon 2014, but his nerves hit him hard against Djokovic in the finals in Wimbledon especially on his own serve and got clueless against cilic in the USO 2014 semis like he was against Nadal @AO 2014, he wasted 2014 it should have been his comeback year like 2017 but still he lost a lot of winnable finals against tsonga and Djokovic in ATP finals, Indian Wells and he could have advanced further in the FO but overall it was not bad he reached his Monte Carlo finals after 8 years, but in 2015 he had no chance it was fully Djokovic and a mediocre old inconsistent Federer all along he lost to Djokovic 5 times ie he lost about 50% of matches lost and all 5 are in finals against him it's a shame and it almost broke Federer and Nadal that they can't win against nole in any conditions, even Nadal lost in the FO so it's very true and the big three era began from 2008 and ended at 2019. Where everybody improved at an equal pace and Novak emerged as the complete victor not only on slams but even at all the tournaments combined.
@@seethakowsalya8144 you mean when meldonium was banned?
@@aravindhamadhavan1555 technique wise post 2013 Federer only improved his backhand when he finally went to a modern racquet, everything else was slowly declining at this stage as he was 32. if he went to a modern racquet earlier he might have had more success, we'll never know. 2013 Nadal and Novax still had a few years to 30 and were at their peak physically, with some room for technique improvement.
@@steinanderson9849 then why did he loose to Nadal in straight sets in AO sf? and stat wise he even did nt have so much winners also and in 2014 he lost a lot of finals to players other than Novak and rafa like tsonga, raonic and cilic in important matches and in 2015 he was dismantled in his own game by novak as he was comming front all the time to finish the points avoiding tactical agressive baseline rallies especially at the Wimbledon finals so both technique and confidence was pretty evaporating in him imo, however finally both came back in 2017 and went haywire after 2018 Miami and after that rest was history.
As much as it pains me to say, Novak is the greatest of all time. These last 6 months clinched it for me. Winning Wimbledon again, Easily wining the Fall events he played and then winning the “5th” Grand Slam in November. Unlike Roger, he beat Rafa twice at Roland Garros and won it two times. Most time at number 1, most Masters wins and has dominated the last 11 years. Rafa’s been great in that stretch too, but Novak has been the best. Probably will win the most majors over Rafa and get to 100 titles, possibly break Roger’s record of 103.
I'd put more nuance in this, a statement like the best ever is almost impossible to give. Each of the 3 have unbelievable qualities quite distinct from each other. Imo, Federer lacked mental strength, otherwise he'd have won >21 slams (and converted the match-points against Note in US-Open and Wimbledon). Then you have Nadal, who is without any doubt the strongest ever on clay, but surely not on other surfaces and overall a 1-dimensional player. Djokovic is the best in mentality and consistency, he's a machine. If all of these 3 had a perfect day, I think Federer would beat them on all surfaces except against Nadal in a best of 5 on clay :)
Greatest of all time against who? A guy who bounces 15 balls before a serve, A guy who uses injury breaks (Amazing healing powers?), Bathroom break against Sinner who was up two sets. I really don't consider Djokovic or Nadal great players but gifted by a void of talent!
@@Fa1rplayy maybe not yet. at their current status..but we all know Novak and even Rafa would try to pull away from their current virtual three way tie status..Roger had set the bar, unfortunately there will always be people who'd. try to break the record..at 24-25 slams, we need to give credit where its due..Rafa & Novak would share the twin GOAT status.
@@Fa1rplayy Nadal a 1 dimensional player?? Are you on DRUGS? HE HAS WON FOUR US OPENS. He has been on SIX AUSTRALIAN OPEN finals and has won twice. He’s been in FIVE Wimbledon finals. And several other semis. That might be the dumbest comment I’ve ever read.
@@emin7540 are you always this ridiculous? What an idiotic post!! Novak, Rafa and Federer are BY FAR the three greatest tennis players of all time. Male or female. Please just shut up.
Bravo for clip. Glad to see someone who doesen t take sides but rather explain everything objectively- neutral.
There is a saying that goes "He who laughs last laughs best"... ...there could possibly be a new saying now "He who cries first cries worst". All the best Djokovic for 2023! 👍👍
You seem to like a player more than Tennis.. All 3 are unique in their own way and Tennis, although will continue, but will suffer once all of them retire…
@@nsharma7135: I agree, the Big 3 are/were fantastic for tennis... ...but personally I do enjoy Djokovic's tennis best. My comment essentially was around Djokovic got a lot of ridicule early on and questions over his stamina, and now he's seen as one of the strongest performers around. All the best to him for another year on the circuit! 👍👍
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Too surprised that Novak is playing better than they are and by the grace of God will continue to play and win and win.
Superbe video - lovely overview of a positive evolution of a relationship
I'm sooo glad you make this video! In the beginning of Djokovic's career he might have used this type of strategy but not after 2010. In another hand, someone else have used this throughout his entire career which I will not name that person (I think we all know who that is) a clue, in this year's Wimbledon. In the end some grown to be mature and towards greatness, some just feed on people's ignorance and admiration of others praise. But nevertheless the triangle of tennis's golden pyramid, their greatness will stayed in all of our hearts forever!!
No he did it even after 2010
Such salty nonsense, insinuating Nadal's injuries as excuses. The guy couldn't play competitive tennis for three months after the injury. His entire career has been riddled with injuries. It was just 4 years in his big career as a tennis professional was he not injured throughout the year. Djokovic fans always try to put Nadal fown at every turn.
@@sankaranarayanan616 nadal and djokovic have both used medical timeouts throughout their careers to get wins. It’s impossible to deny. Nadal did it in Wimbledon 2008… djokovic did it in Wimbledon 2014. Guess what? They both beat Federer in 5. Djoker even did it after feds comeback in the 4th. He was even doing it against Murray after he lost the first set in the AO 2013 final, to the bathroom straight away
I find it very weird that when the clay season arrives, he’s just fine.
@@ancaandrei3939 Nadal missed the 2003, 2004, and 2016 RG because of injury. Any tennis observer who is half worth his salt will understand that Nadal's style of play is incredibly different from that of almost all other players, because his is a much more physical form of play. He has a very firm grip on his raquet, hits the forehand with a ferocious topspin which is a great advantage, but takes a huge toll on your physical body. Add to the fact that Nadal almost never gives up to try and reach the ball every single time, and his style of play is agressive defense, anyone can easily make an educated guess that Nadal has a higher chance of getting injured than other players. And that's exactly what all tennis pundits did, when Rafa started out. They said that Nadal is going to be plagued with injuries and he can't keep up his physical style for long because his body is taking huge blows in every match he plays. That's why we Rafa fans love him. Even though he's been plagued with injuries, Rafa still always makes a stunning comeback. Tennis hasn't seen the last of Rafa yet. He'll be back, stronger than ever.
thank you for this. more people should open their eyes and stop idolizing federer. novak is much more humble and i'm so glad he grew in the bigger champion, too. a legend among legends.
When pride gets in the way, hurtful words are spoken, and most of the time, can't be erased...
As great a player that Federer is one can feel the undercurrents between him and Djokovic...probably it is difficult for him to accept that Novak has surpassed his achievements on the court.
Many would still say Federer is the best player of all time, regardless of Novak collecting a few more titles.
@@skygazer6898 My delusional neighbor belives that Manchester United is the best team of all time and yes he can believe whatever he wants - but the statistics and records tell another story. Sadly for Roger, he and Novak are from the same era, unlike the past greats like say a Rod Laver. But yes he will be known as one of the greats.
@@bhoogewerf2823 stats aren't everything. Roger is goat. End of
@@swampy1234 --- End of What !? The Greatest is simply the one with the most wins ! Especially when it is against other Greats !
Federer siempre fue el más cagón del Big 3, disfruto mucho tiempo sin jugar contra nadie y cuando llegaron Nadal y Djokovic vio que ya no tenía chances. Además sabemos del racismo de suizos contra los serbios, de los europeos de general con los balcánicos. Lo de Mónica seles en Alemania no fue casualidad.
Finalmente un commento completo, in pochi si ricordano di Monica Seles e del razzismo generale contro i Serbi…!
Thank you for speaking about that brother.Monika Seles was born in my city,Novi Sad,in Serbia (former Yugoslavia).Where are you from brother?
Yeah im a serbian living in switzerland and they really dont like us, but i think thats a mentality thing 😂
I feel that Federer felt threatened by Novak early years because he showed great potential. Rafa was for a long time only competitive on clay so Fed had no problem with him but Novak was a threat for him on all surfaces. But when Novak established himself not just as a talent but as the man to beat, thats when Roger started to respect him more. I feel like he kinda disrespected him at the begining out of fear(?) but later respected him because of sucess. I didnt see Djokovic as arrogant early on but maybe Roger did, who knows. In the end, this is a very competitive 1v1 sport where the winner takes points, money and pride from you, its hard to not be salty from time to time. Djokovic showed the most respect out of the 3 because he came when the other 2 were already established superstars, and they gave him the least respect because he was a newcomer. The respect nowdays is good enough, cant really ever be more then that when 1 match is worth about 2milion and 1000 points, too much is at stake.
Rafa was only competitive on clay could be the biggest understatement ever. Nadal has beaten Federer consistently on hardcourt surfaces. Infact, in outdoor hardcourt surfaces, Nadal trumps federer in the h2h. It is only in Indoor hardcourt and grass that Federer had the advantage. Even with grass courts, there aren't a lot of tournaments on grass courts as much as there are hardcourts and clay courts. So Nadal and Federer met only 4 times on Grass, with Federer trumping Nadal 3-1.
@@sankaranarayanan616 That was the case at the begining of their rivalry for sure, Roger was taking US opens, wimbledos and AOs almost every year while Nadal only took RG. In time that changed ofc, just about during the time Nole was rising as well. My point was that in the begining of Fedal rivalry Rafa was a clay monster but mostly just that, Roger was still untouched on all 3 other GSs. While on the other hand Novak chalenged Federer much more even in early years on all surfaces.
Rafa competitive only on clay LOL for that . Rafa was the one that showed the world that World no1 player Roger Federer can be defeated . Rafa challenged and successfully owned Roger . He ended Roger's dominance in tennis. Yes Rafa initially owned Roger only on Clay but with Wimbledon'08 and AO'09 wins he successfully dethroned Roger to an extent that Roger even cried because he saw ending his dominance. That's why Roger says Wimbledon'08 loss has been his most difficult Loss .
@2:58 FINALLYYYY somebody aknowledges that match and that return! Watched this match live and could not believe it! Always been a Federer fan and that match HURT
Well you nailed,as a Novak fan i already missing post match clashes with Fed fans,so every era comes to the end and this one was epic.
It' not low level of respect, but fear that he felt regarding the newcomer that is going to take his throne.
Their relationship got better towards the end.
Thank you! I enjoyed your video of these two.. Made me feel kinder toward joker.🎾
Great video!!
We enjoyed great matches between these two guys. What they said at the start,will be forgotten. I am sure when both of them retire,they will have normal connection. Both big champions with ego. They did great job for the game
I think this video was spot on. To sum it up, Roger saw this emerging player with the complete game closing in on him in the rear view mirror and he didn't like it one bit. I know he didn't like Djokovic at all in the beginning and somehow he was hoping that Djokovic would just disappear but he didn't. Much more recently, Roger's attitude to Novak became more acceptable when he realized that Novak is a truly great player himself. It's all good in the end. When I see all these pictures and videos, Novak Djokovic just has an aura that says "Greatness": An intangible something that money can't buy. Blessings to all.
Thanks for sharing
Excellent presentation, my thanks
He felt threatend by Đoković from the start, it's as simple as that.
nope. Fed was as threatened by Rafa, but always had a much warmer relationship with him. it's not the on court threat; it's jokers personality that's the problem.
@@cornel999 Problem for Federer, not for the fans.
@@cornel999 Yes, Đoković wasn't afraid to show that he is coming to take his place. Rafa always deferred to Federer off the court.
Federer has actually stated that he expected Murray to flourish between the two of them.
At the end of the day Roger is full of pride he had that about him from the start , im not saying Novak and Rafa and most tennis players aren't the same but Roger was on another level of Ego - God level . So when Novak came out imitating him that pissed him off and then when he starting winning and even beating Roger here and there that really got to him sort of hurt his Ego . And i don't think he ever got over it