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Kia is back with a HUGE new SUV that could be the go-to choice for soccer/hockey/football/skiing families everwhere. With long-range, quick acceleration, and a surprisingly fair price tag, has Alex finally found the SUV for his future family?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Exterior design impressions
2:15 Charging and interior design impressions
6:45 Sponsor - CARLUEX
7:22 360 camera and car launch impressions
8:32 Rough road driving
9:18 Regenerative braking and cornering
10:44 Speaker system thoughts and LABS results
11:43 Driving assist features, range, and pricing
12:41 Overall thoughts
13:21 Outro
"love the direction they're going" *1-2 minutes in* MICROTRANSACTIONS
That segue to the sponsor was probably the cleanest one they've done on an LMG channel.
bought my daughter a 2018 KIA Forte in 2019 (her first car while in High School). The single worst purchase I've ever made - it hasn't been stolen or burst into flames [yet] but our insurance premiums in Illinois are more reflective of a luxury sedan than an economy vehicle. Someone please start up a second class action lawsuit to address both Hyundai/KIA negligence on behalf of ALL owners irregardless of theft, fire, etc. Owner insurance premiums totaling nearly twice the cost they should be isn't fair. They shouldn't be allowed to sell vehicles in the U.S. until this is addressed.
@@tocreatee5736 ya done goofed. First off, why is this a reply to a totally unrelated comment. Secondly, Kia and Hyundai DID get sued, all of this has been going on for years, and I own a 2023 Kia Soul that has lower insurance premium than most cars.
the lounge mode is for the times u r in the car while it is charging....that's what they have been saying for a long time now with their other cars
would be great for the Drive In as well if you have one in the area. I have 2 by where I live and that would be awesome
Yeah, always tried making my own lounge mode on Tesla model S. On long drives, it's nice to get some shut eye whilst charging. Kia is awesome now. I wonder if that's Ashley Schaeffer's doing or not.
My girlfriend had a 2020 KIA and it literally caught on fire. not recommend.
@@fffwe3876sounds like a user error
Man, the editing and pacing of this video are genius. Also, Alex is such a great host.
Huge is an understatement. I've seen it in person. It isn't two Hummers strapped together but I would not want to be a pedestrian in front of these things.
Yes, this is the biggest car in Europe that isn't imported. At least what I've seen.
SUVs are a blight on our roads
Not to mention the fact that these evs can accelerate like a sports car with handling to allow for even more efficient reckless traffic weaving.
Friend has a 2020 KIA Telluride that caught on fire while her mechanic was driving it after a maintenance schedule. 😨😨
@@jakem5039100%. So unnecessary for 90% of people and a huge safety risk for others
you have to PAY to unlock a lighting animation!?
Its an optional extra to get the full collection. Its like paying 250 for a different wheel rim
Well... It is still better than a non included feature that you can't unlock after the purchase... Imagine having some sensors on your car and you can unlock them if you feel like you'll like them when you have the money to unlock them. Still... 250 for an animation... That sucks...
Gotta love how so many car companies nowadays are locking out hardware that already exists on the cars through software with paywalls.
@@TrioLOLGamers lol bmw heated seats
@@blessonwilson4224it's still not a valid reason to charge me more for my lights
$250 is a microtransaction? What a time to be alive!
Compared to the 80,000 of the car.... yeah, kinda!
I really hope nobody gets it just to have some push back against this crap.
compared to the cost of the car i guess 😂
Macro transactions just dropped
4:50 you want lounge mode for the 24 minutes you're stopped charging from 10% to 80%. or longer if you're at an electrify america spot and 3 of the 4 chargers are either broken or limited to dispensing 35 kw of juice.
Genuine question, if you have any in your area what do you think of the Shell Recharge chargers? I'm a software engineer on one of the Shell Recharge teams and we're doing a ton of work to try and improve charger uptime. There's still tons of work to do so my expectation is that the charger experience still isn't great, but my hopes are high :)
I mean.. Can you tell us what your charger uptime is like right now? I think you're fighting against 96%+ uptime on the superchargers. And even EA seems to be getting better. I'm personally definitely looking forward to having reliable, interconnected networks across the country providing options to drivers. Probably can't tell us, but wondering if and when there will be a switch to NACS. Also wondering if anyone will bite the bullet and create a unified app experience that can combine station information (charger status, open stalls, cars en route, etc) from multiple brands into one, to rival the SC network. Shell, I imagine, isn't planning extreme solo expansion and might well benefit from just such a thing.
i much preferred the old trunk measurement of '2 or 3 bodies' , but i guess i can accept "a couple of backpacks and an Alex" thanks Steve
2:06 the doorhandles „just work“. We are really setting the bar low nowadays
I like the fact that you put metric units alongside the freedom units you say.
They’re Canadian so it makes sense
Canadians use both ;)
Kia employee here! EV9 is a really hot seller at my dealership we had a pre production model from Korea and it genuinely impressed me. Kia is really coming a long way from where they were
Hey can you tell me the width of the wheels? I have the 19 inch in diameter. I’m gonna change my wheels
i got preorder, any more word on the two way charging
@@cokeiceeeee I’m in parts, so I’m not too familiar with the charging system but I do plan on learning it
@@cokeiceeeeebidirectional charging is all I'm waiting for before jumping in on an ev. I want to be able to power my house in an emergency and maybe run a cooler in the back. Even better if I can sell electricity back to the grid when I don't need it.
Got ours a few weeks back. Put 1100km on it helping family and friends move about. It is super quiet and surprisingly agile despite the obvious size of the thing. Previously we had a Tesla and the difference in quality is immediately obvious. Recommended!
I have a question for you. I am a windsurfer, and I am the lookout for an EV that can transport my gear without having to strap it to the top. So if I fold both the second and third row of seats down and move the front passenger seat as far forward as possible, about how long is the space? 7 feet? More?
@@gatesurferI'm just guessing here. The back half of the car (up to the pillar) is a little less than half the length of the car. So maybe just a bit over 7 feet. Perhaps if you moved the seat up and got the load a bit diagonal, you might get 8. But 7 seems like a good working floor number.
It should be illegal to sell cars this unnecessarily big and heavy. Thank you for being the first person on KZhead to acknowledge that cd is a COEFFICIENT, as there are plenty of idiots that think a Tesla model X is more aerodynamic than an mazda MX5 just because it's cd is lower
What if you have 4 kids? :)
@@filiplou74 4 kids can fit in a Toyota Tazz from the 90s
@@filiplou74Get a minivan and fill that sucker with 7 kids
@@filiplou74 At that point a minivan would work better and it'll have the space for luggage, unlike this giant thing with practically no space.
As Car manufacturers keep adding "DLC" to their cars, the chances that people get accustomed to 🏴☠️ "making changes after the fact" to their cars.
He's discovered "becoming a mechanic" what will the auto overlords do to stop this threat?
@@ninjahawk2400 custom software automatically fails your emissions test in germany
Haven’t watched the video yet, but based on the video’s title, drink every time Alex says “absolutely fantaaaastic“
Welp, that didn’t take long! 😅😂
How many Fricken's will there be? :D @@ryanbane
I don't understand how those handles are going to work in winter. How am I supposed to get into the car to get my scraper when the handles can't come out?
When will normal sized car evs come that don’t suck?
When the battery technology advances. Until then look at a Hyundai Kona EV 2023 (not 2024) if you are looking for a compact EV with a nice range and very fun engine.
Renault made one for a short stint in the 2010s (sadly don't remember the name) and the Chevy volt/Opel ampera did exist
@@Unwavering_ResolveThe 2024 is just ever so slightly larger. Like, by a few centimeters. (but the looks took a sharp dive unfortunately.)
@@tiagobelo4965 Renault Zoé. In Europe they made it till last year.
BYD has been doing that, Atto 3 is a normal sized hatchback for your average people for around $35K with 400km range.
Damn, the space when all the seats are down is mad. Chuck an inflatable mattress in there and you got a decent mobile bedroom, haha.
Great review, LMG has really come a long way when it comes to their car reviews, this was both entertaining and informative and focused on the things that are important when it comes to vehicles rather than getting too techy. I enjoyed the little touch of the presenter laying down in the boot and doing some head banging, sorry I'm terrible with names. The early car reviews I found somewhat frustrating and could find fault easily, this review, well I struggle to find fault. Well done!.
It's refreshing to see Kia innovating with the ev9. Impressed with the thoughtfulness in the design, not to mention the interior quality and tech features.
If you're gonna do 3 rows of seats, then why not just make it a minivan? Added benefit of some additional height.
expect the carnival to be ev-ified eventually
I have an everest 7 seater SUV and its fantastic, can just use a roof box etc if taking heaps of people or can Use it as a stationwagon style for room.
Americans imagine themselves needing ground clearance for their rugged lifestyles, going to and fro the strip mall. And sliding doors are practical, which is emasculating or something.
Americans are addicted to pedestrian killing machines
@@concinnus lmao, well said. No idea why Americans are so obsessed with these big cars when they either drive alone or with 3 people max. Maybe it's an ego thing, like "look mine's bigger!"
Damn, the _"Surround View Monitor w/ 3D View"_ isn't available until the _"Land AWD"_ model. Base is $54k and the Land AWD $70k. Damn. That means you can't get the bench for the back seat and have to use captain chairs.
Seems like a nice car, but damn where are the good sedans?
Check out the Kia K4 they just released. It's not electric, but we imagine it will be pretty soon!
China
They have to sell a lot of the profitable cars (SUVs) before they can design the less profitable ones. The electric sedans currently available in North America consist of the Ioniq 6, Polestar 2, BMW i4, BMW i5, and Mercedes EQE
Isn't there a larger tax credit for SUVs or something
Or a nice stationwagon. I don't want a landyacht, and I don't need 24 seats. But it would be really nice if I could fit a sheet of 4x8 OSB with the rear (60/40) seats folded down. And to be able to fit in a regular EU-sized parking space without having to be a 40kg thin contortionist to get in or out, yeah that would be really great too.
Video got to my sub box literally after my LTT screwdriver was delivered lol. Great fidget toy to play with while I watch Short Circuit!
"it's pretty fun given how huge it is" pedestrian and cyclist: 🗿🗿🗿
meh who cares
That drag coefficient is literally on par with the legendary Mercedes W124 E-class from the 80's.
Turns out physics hasn't changed howbowdat
@@prashank Turns out 40 years of progress and we're back at where we left. It's ridiculous.
@@prashank Physics hasn't. Engineering has. We have FEM and CFD now. Material science has improved. Coatings science has improved. This hasn't got anything to do with physics.
Drag coefficient formula must be multiplied by the area of the front of the car to get the actual force. It's a bit misleading and the mercedes would have a much lower drag force.
Unfortunately the Mercedes has a quarter the frontal area, so the drag will be far less.
As someone who eats lunch in their car because our lunchroom smells I can appreciate a lounge mode lol
Honestly, there is such a niche you guys got here with how you review cars. 👏 almost deserving of a channel.... tech minds and automotive reviewing. Yes. More. Thank you.
Would be better as a car. I find it crazy these SUVs have less interior room than my Forte. "Being an EV, it had to do something that wouldn't work after a night of freezing rain" Also microtransactions? Really? And I was a fan of Kia until that moment.
FINALLY!!!! Another car review!
Great video guys hoping to get more detailed car videos in future good luck.
Lounge mode is 100% for lunch nap breaks at work
It's been a while since an EV video on here, so I'm very happy to see Alex again showing off a cool car!
When you're using the pedal regen braking function, do the brake lights active when you start lifting your foot off the pedal?
I hope they fixed that by now. Still would like to know the answer.
@donc-m4900 yup
@@Unwavering_Resolveyes they do, they've fixed all of them
Does the rear brake light turn on when you're in single pedal mode? A lot of cars don't do this since regulators don't require it, but I'm not trying to get rear ended in poor visibility conditions
In the US there is no legislation for it, but EU has pretty strict rules that say that after a certain deceleration rate threshold, brake lights need to come on. If we take Hyundai Ioniq 5 (that is on the same platform) there is a chance that it might not come on in US under certain circumstances unless they changed something in the meantime. Technology Connections made a video about that some time ago.
At this point I am convinced that LTT can produce anything.
Will the handles work at -20 C with a ice layer ?
I feel like Lounge Mode on the driver seat is pretty obviously for when you're at a charging station, especially on a road trip.
Does this thing come with acceleration triggered guitar riffs as standard or do I have to pay more for that?
Nice rolling shots. Liked the one on the bridge since colors matched
I wonder how well those door handles work after an ice storm
@@Zephanyahh there's no problem with batteries in cold weather if there's no cold weather.
Similar to how a tesla does
@@blessonwilson4224 Flush door handles are always balls, but at least on the "small" Teslas you can give the handle a bit of whack to break it free. On the big Teslas (S/X) they work just as atrocious in the cold as these will.
surprise, they wont!
@@Killerpixel11Just run the defrost from the app before you leave. It hits them and defrosts. My '21 model 3 has been no issue living in ohio, the car can schedule what time you leave and pre-do it
Alex back on cars, thank you!
The location and shots in this episode are insaneeeee So pretty!
Those door handles are absolutely stupid for anyone living in the north. You'll end up locked out of your car whenever you get some ice.
to me, this looks like a HUGE Soul, which is a good thing. ive always been a fan of that little car. this has nice lines, good looking trim, and i do really like the interior layout. kia has really upped their game here
Huh actually saw one today in the middle of nowhere finland, talk about coincidence.
Love the review! Keep em coming boys
That's not a car, that's a SUV. I always laugh at people saying we need to "do our part for the environment", who then get into their 2.5-3 metric ton SUVs and carry *nothing*.
Seen a few around Burnaby and Vancouver recently and mom seems to be a big fan of the EV9
Nice. Alsays love the sound system review. But... I was distracted by the finger prints on the driver's window that were right in the center of the frame for Alex's driving shots. 😮
Love the vid❤❤❤ Really hoping you're trying to get your hands on the "Xiaomi SU7" next!!
2:27 But the question is whether you can put the seats in the normal position using the button in the trunk. Because there are a lot of cars with this option of folding the seats that don't come back with the button on the trunk. Idk if this is discussed later in the video
Lets gooo Alex car reviews are back!!
Getting an IONIQ 6 pretty soon, thanks to you guys, and man I only wish I could have it in this beautiful metallic blue. but everyone knows, red goes faster anyways.
Ioniq 6 SE has a pretty sweet in dealership 24 month lease deal right now for $239/m 10k miles without any down payment
Ooof, imagine getting that inferior piece of junk. Maybe you should step inside a K, backwards-N dealership before you buy it. Because you're gonna regret that the minute you need any sort of service or warranty.
Love these videos. Awesome car! Thanks!
that lounge mode is really useful for construction workers, In some sites I used to get in my car at lunch break to get away from the bugs (Australia)
The $250 microtransaction alone is enough for me to skip over this. This trend needs to die.
i can the popup handles being an issue in areas with freezing temperatures and the welcome light micro transaction is absolutely insane.
But what if Kia (USA) gave us the lightning patterns for free! No chump chump?
What if just crack the software and mod it yourself. I give it max 2months and you can buy a modded chip from china.
@@JPAK_92depending on the country you are living in, you might risk street legal, so you are not allowed to use them on public streets any more.
My KIA cars engine stalled after the dealership did an engine consumption test. The crank shaft broke and now they won’t honor their warranty even though my car is still under warranty. I drove the car only 30 miles after the oil consumption test and the engine blew up. I’m so disappointed in KIA they don’t care
New drinking game: drink whenever Alex says “exceptional”.
@@ArmyCop no, it’s fantastic.
That canadian mixing of 'murcan and sensible units without text on the screen to translate between the two... Priceless!
it has been an absolute joy seeing alex find his voice and becoming more and more excellent with his reviews. this is one of his best ones yet. very informative, fun and not too dry even though its very information dense. love all your videos, but especially the car reviews. keep up the good work. PS: one of the only things i would suggest is can you guys do a DB meter on a standard road for electric vehicles - like what is the quietest the EV on gravel to asphalt section. i find that many EVs skimp on either sound dampening or there is random wind noise. I drove the volvo polestar thing for work for a couple weeks and the wind noise was atrocious! My boss comutes in his Hummer EV and says that there is a windy stretch of road between two mountains where the noise gets really high pitched and almost whistles. i didn't believe it was that bad until i drove with him once and it sounds like an office chair going full speed downhill....
I wander how expensive those tyres are ?
Kinda crazy to have hardware and features already installed in your vehicle but locked behind a paywall to access, at least with road service buttons/heated seats it involves adding on to the vehicle or being serviced.
So Glad Linus let you do EV car reviews again!
Question: Will the handles manage to slide out if you leave the car out in a freezing snowing winter night or will they freeze thus preventing you to enter the car? And you should test this with every car that uses some stupid electronic crap for the doors instead of a normal mechanism.
It is on the E-GMP platform same as the EV6 so charging will be 350kW (240kW actual)
Lounge mode is great when charging on a road trip
Again, thank you guys so much for the frequency analysis charts in your car reviews. As a certified audio nut (and studio recording engineer), I *love* that stuff. I've generated these graphs for every car I've owned in an attempt to tune things, and my friends always think I'm crazy.
2:01 can you eject only the back door handles? if not and all 4 are opens this vehicle would not be a good fit for ride share drivers
really enjoy Alex's car reviews.. should be own channel
USD pricing is a bit off. Lowest end model is 54,900 and GT-Line is 73,900
It can depend on what state you live in. Sometimes cars can be cheaper or more expensive.
For reference, I'm a New Yorker
When I saw the door handles I thought what would happen if your battery totally died to where you could not unlock it and you had something important in it. If you are not home or near a charger then it could be an issue. Of course I at most need cruise control. This is for others but alas not me. Oh well. Good review though.
This makes me look forward to the Volvo ex90 later this year
Can we please get car reviews for vehicles we can actually afford?
Alex mentioned the maxxed out top trim price, but no mention of the base model price.
@@pileofstuff The base model is still $54,900 USD. That is still more than most people can afford in my area.
Finally a new car review! Still waiting for a video about a Volvo waggon (V60 🥰👀) tho
I wish I could afford a V60
Seperate front and back hvac is genius. Cars usually have only 1 or 2 people in the car the vast majority of time.
Don't recommend i-pedal or anything like that, it doesn't activate the brake light until you're almost at a complete stop, so vehicles behind you don't know you're slowing down to stop until the last second.
That's not my experience. Deceleration will trigger the brake light
@@rcoundon on select models yes but most of them won't, there's a KZhead I watch who went over this and even showed how his brake lights won't turn on until his ipedal comes to a complete stop.
@@tourmalino3205 I don't know where you're from but in the EU and UK there are directives that cars much adhere to in terms of the level of deceleration that results in brake lights coming on, it may be different in the US. In terms of other regenerative braking options, it's a similar situation to downshifting in an ICE in order to use the gearing/engine braking to slow the car which doesn't result in the brake lights illuminating.
I really wish there was an option to get the smaller battery in the higher trims. Other reviews have noted you are penalized in charging rate and speed for going with the larger pack. You are NOT getting those 10-80% stats even in the best of conditions, and it will charge slower than their true 400V architecture like in the Ionic 5.
81k$? No thanks. Hyundai Kona EV will stay king of price for a VERY long time. (still asking for a review of it)
I've seen quite a lot of Kia EVs here where i live and they look really good.
so whats the lounge mode again, Alex?
If you ignore the high price, high maintenance and uncertainty as to if the battery can be repaired let alone replaced it’s great
Can y'all please do a comparison of various devices like the sponsored product here? (wireless Car-play/AA adapters, including ones that are basically a tablet that output via same...). I'd like to know their common issues, challenges, and things to look out for
Lounge mode makes sense in an electric vehicle because you will sometimes be waiting at a charger for 15 to 30 minutes or whatever.
I got to see this at the Columbus Auto Show, and honestly it won best in show IMO. The only 3 manufacturers not present was BMW, Mazda and Tesla. All the new cars on the road, this hit me (and the Ioniq 5). I’m an Audi fanboy and would go with this EV9 over a Q5/Q7 equivelant. But I hear there’s a Q6 EV on the way, soooooo. :p
How long until all the microtransactions are cracked?
The Canadian Accent really comes out when he's excited about cars.
I know you don’t do Tesla but if you could review the cyber truck would really interesting
I'd probably never use the third row, unless I stuck a couple of 5 years old back there. It works for me.
whyyyyy :( is the charge port lid so freaking big? :D
Excellent video content but is it just me or do we have some jitter in the video from the bumps?
Yo the seats look AWESOME.
Honestly, Kia has been killing it on basically all their designs over the last few years. The styling of even their lower tier cars looks really good.
Lounge mode are for charging. I would love it. My ev6 doesn’t have that button ;(
the price difference from canadian dollars to German pricing is insane after conversion
Oh boy the handles are going to be a pain in the cold
My Tundra came with that weird seat extender thing, and it confused me and still confuses me. I don't understand it. I don't hate it fully extended, and I guess it does alleviate fatigue for longer drives, kind of... I DON'T KNOW...
I love the ev6 so much
$54k for the entry model? oof